WEBVTT - #400 - Big Hit

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<v Speaker 1>Big hit check me out on Bootleg CAV podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>the interview, yo. Bootleg keV Podcast special guests here. He

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<v Speaker 2>just dropped his This is his debut album. Yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>the truth is in my eyes. I'd like to point

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<v Speaker 2>out this is very highly anticipated. Thank you for bringing

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<v Speaker 2>me a physical copy. Man, guarantee you people ain't doing

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<v Speaker 2>these no more so. And this is legit. Come on, man,

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<v Speaker 2>some people some people do a CD. But it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>see you don't got the book. See this is the fool,

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<v Speaker 2>you got the whole This is vintage bruh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, this is fire.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, before we get into the specifics of

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<v Speaker 2>the album, what I noticed that you're doing, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think is actually smart these days, is you can't go

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<v Speaker 2>to Spotify for this album.

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<v Speaker 1>No man, you gotta only cop this on big hit

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<v Speaker 1>noopid dot com. You feel me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So what was because obviously for people who don't know, like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you get a million streams, it's like thirty seven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars, which is pretty wild. We're being honest, But

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<v Speaker 2>if people like, what, what, what was the inspiration for

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<v Speaker 2>you to you know, make people buy the album, like

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<v Speaker 2>actually spend money on the album.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's you know, that's the mastermind hit you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, hit Boy. So we just basically

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<v Speaker 1>just said fuck it, just ball hogging, just doing us.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't lose a daw and I like it to

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<v Speaker 1>love it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying type situation.

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<v Speaker 1>We just create good music and uh and pushing full

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<v Speaker 1>speed ahead with it, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>The album has been out of a few days. What

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<v Speaker 2>has been the response and how has how has this

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<v Speaker 2>business model worked out so far?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a one man it's all booming. It's their fans

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<v Speaker 1>is tapping in, they copping the magazines, they copping the shirts,

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<v Speaker 1>Troopers in my shirt crazy free shirts. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm well, I'm glad that you guys are doing it

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<v Speaker 2>this way because, like I feel like something has to

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<v Speaker 2>give for like kind of like currently how artists are

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<v Speaker 2>compensating for their art. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I feel it. My niggas like niggas doing

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<v Speaker 1>shit for free.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't nobody and no other game is doing shit for free.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't go to the man and get a break, nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>Ask my nigga, Tell the nigga I got you later.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus is doing that. Ship Man and Dudes is really

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<v Speaker 1>like devalueising, you know, the game, like it as just

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<v Speaker 1>fucking the game up for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about because you and ever since you got out

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<v Speaker 2>this last go round, I feel like you and your

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<v Speaker 2>son have just been in your bag. Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been crazy to watch just kind of like the

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<v Speaker 2>buzz that you generated just immediately, the quality of records

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<v Speaker 2>that you were putting out on his ship. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the visuals have been there. I know you guys celebrated.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys shot one of one of your videos shot

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<v Speaker 2>at my club in Arizona. He was out there with

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<v Speaker 2>all my bottle girls. It's Costan.

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<v Speaker 1>I love for sure a Z shout out my nigga.

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<v Speaker 2>But this album, man, like you know it is. It

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<v Speaker 2>is a highly anticipated album. So you know, for you

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of give me like the rundown of just

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<v Speaker 2>how you feel about this man, finally getting it off

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<v Speaker 2>your chest. It's got to feel good with so many

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<v Speaker 2>roadblocks that have come up in your life. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we could have got this album a decade ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you know, yep, yeah for sure. Which you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a process man, the building process and the

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<v Speaker 1>learning process and just now just gotta capitalize and you

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<v Speaker 1>know and uh push full speed ahead man, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>you know, make it makes sense, you know. For I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like this all I know right now, That's all I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like a full time rapper for real.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I ain't out there grinding like one foot in,

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<v Speaker 1>one foot out like my nigga BENNI said, that's real shit.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. That's what I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>last time too, and the shit wasn't working.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like anybody who does the one foot out

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<v Speaker 2>one for anything. Is it's there's like an expiration date

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<v Speaker 2>on that. We see it every almost every given moment.

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<v Speaker 2>At any given moment, you might get pulled over with

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<v Speaker 2>a gun. You might there's so many like little things

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<v Speaker 2>that could go wrong every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you might kill a nigga of anything. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, it's like you might as well focused.

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<v Speaker 2>So like for you like talk to me about like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>is there gonna be any sort of opportunity for the

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<v Speaker 2>generic fan to just stream this one day or is

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<v Speaker 2>it just like, hey, this is only gonna be something

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<v Speaker 2>you could buy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm like a piece of art. Yeah, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's some art. Right now, I'm not really sure how

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing it. Maybe later they feel like they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>might put him streaming out or whatever. Or right now

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<v Speaker 1>we're ball hogging and we on to the next. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like this is done, so I know we got to

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<v Speaker 1>push this, but we like we still creating music. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just every day.

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<v Speaker 2>All the work Ethic over there and hits spot is

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<v Speaker 2>it's just it's just non stop. I'm sure you already

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<v Speaker 2>got another album ready.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten I was That's what I'm saying, like ten, I

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<v Speaker 1>was ready, man, so.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like when he locks in, it's just over.

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<v Speaker 2>Like look at all the no I mean, just the

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<v Speaker 2>NAS thing. I don't even know how many NAS albums

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<v Speaker 2>you've gotten so far. It's been crazy, six on records,

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<v Speaker 2>six of them another Grammy nomination. What's it like meeting

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<v Speaker 2>and hanging with Nas?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Man, he is king man, a soldier, man, shout

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<v Speaker 1>out Nas my naked you know, get my utmost respect man,

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<v Speaker 1>my highs regards. He like he was mannas like he

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<v Speaker 1>just like he Nas my nig ukn't like you meet

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<v Speaker 1>another motherfucker. He's not that dude, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't know Nas, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But but however I seen Nasa and however he portrayed hisself.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how blood was when I met him. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. It wasn't no different from the movie

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<v Speaker 1>Nigga to fucking.

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<v Speaker 2>From Belly Ship. You felt me that was the really

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<v Speaker 2>ship poster up there?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, yeah, yeah, my nigga, you know him and

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<v Speaker 1>X was off that ship.

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<v Speaker 2>But so he didn't disappoint Nah here real were you

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<v Speaker 2>able to kind of chop it up with him about

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<v Speaker 2>like just kind of like because I feel like what

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<v Speaker 2>your son has done with Nas is unprecedented low key,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Like I feel like, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Tod's just do this ship man, because it's in his heart,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in his soul, that's a part of him. My

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<v Speaker 1>nigga like an athlete. It's like bouncing the ball. Nigga

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<v Speaker 1>is nothing for real.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and like that grammy is like a big deal,

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<v Speaker 2>the grammy that they wanted. That's like that's guy that's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously shot to hit. He's not like his

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<v Speaker 2>only grammy, But like that grammy to me, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like was like it had to have meant so much

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<v Speaker 2>because it was with Nas and it was like years

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<v Speaker 2>after his initial run, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So man, they man took him a long time

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<v Speaker 1>to break him off. Man, they should have been gave

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<v Speaker 1>NAS's flowers for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. You know, talk to me man, just like about

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<v Speaker 2>you what what first of all, how long have you

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<v Speaker 2>been rapping? And give me kind of like some of

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<v Speaker 2>your background, like like what part of Cali are you from?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, how long have you been making music because you're

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<v Speaker 2>you're like the o G. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you you had a lot of the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>inspiration as to why it ended up taking his career

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<v Speaker 2>path to where it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I grew up sucking with the old school,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, The the kr rest want

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<v Speaker 1>the biz MARKI the fucking know, back to jams army

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<v Speaker 1>type shit. But but yeah, I'm from Pasadena, pdu shot

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<v Speaker 1>to Pasadena. Ye whoa city of roses And yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 1>just been I've been spending all my life real just

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<v Speaker 1>clowning with it. Though I never you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>It was just a part of me.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I say, it was just something that you just

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<v Speaker 2>lived and it was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I always did it and clown with it, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know he was always say, oh that's tight, But

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<v Speaker 1>I never took it serious, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the closest you had taken it to, Like

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<v Speaker 2>obviously prior to the Hsay seven wave when you when

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<v Speaker 2>you're on grinding all my life and all that, But

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<v Speaker 2>was there like an earlier era where you were close

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of like putting out music or being like

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<v Speaker 2>more of a serious artist where you were kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like considering.

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<v Speaker 1>Nah, that was the only time I really you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. It was si because I was fres

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<v Speaker 1>shot to have a cham in jail.

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<v Speaker 2>Before that, it was just like a hobby.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just spinning, you know. It was young, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Just kicking it clown with friends.

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<v Speaker 1>But other than that, just remixing ship. He was remixing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was remixing way back then. Just jumping on beats. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>jumping on beats, redoing the same ship like Bobby Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>did that roaches to get all these roaches. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just clown and ship like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Pasadena is a city that doesn't get a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of recognition or love when we think.

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<v Speaker 1>About l A. No, we underrated, my nigga.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love Pasadena. It's one of my favorite cities

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<v Speaker 2>to go to to get food.

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<v Speaker 1>And trend settles. My nigga, Oh God, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>mean by that man ship? We set the tone, my

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<v Speaker 1>nigga on a lot of ship and ship. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>said my nigga, Like, nope, it all that ship.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, hasn't saying like what do

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<v Speaker 2>you what do you think it is about Pasadena that

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<v Speaker 2>like there's a few areas of l A that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of are underappreciated, if you will. Yeah, I think Pasadena

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<v Speaker 2>is one of them, Like Pasadens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, you know what I'm saying. It's just uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we for show we underrated.

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<v Speaker 2>But and like people don't understand it also gets it

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<v Speaker 2>gets up.

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<v Speaker 1>On and we just you know, saying we had to

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<v Speaker 1>turn up and we just never turned down, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, to get all respect.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think most people go to Pasadena and they

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<v Speaker 2>go to either the Rose Bowl or they go and

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<v Speaker 2>they get food because they got that street that's got

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<v Speaker 2>all the restaurants. But it does get active.

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<v Speaker 1>O was. Yeah, they was looking at us like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what Hollywood or some shit, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a nice area. You get tricked if you

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<v Speaker 1>come over there for sure, you know, say, thinking you

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<v Speaker 1>you're safe in a good little area, and it start

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<v Speaker 1>going up. But yeah, that was the that was the

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<v Speaker 1>main thing. Probably you get tricked by just the surroundings. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but the individuals in the city is vicious.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like anywhere in La you get tricked. They

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<v Speaker 2>got hoods everywhere they I didn't realize.

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<v Speaker 1>Some spots, you know that you feel the presence of danger,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like you don't really feel

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<v Speaker 1>that in Pasadena, you know what I'm saying. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>right now for shit, for like I'm in fucking West Covinos.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say when you got out, you had to

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<v Speaker 2>probably be like, damn, this shit changed big time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of people in the hood that's not

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<v Speaker 1>even from the hood nically the homies. They a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people moved out. Is the fucking inflation. It's crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was looking at the house over there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. Yeah, you gotta move like it's yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna change that. We're gonna get to these millions and

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<v Speaker 1>these billions. I'm a bottle hoole hood.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. Man. You have a bunch of features

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<v Speaker 2>on this project. Shout to Jay Worthy, shot to Baby

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<v Speaker 2>Stone Gorillas. I saw the Alchemist is on here. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>your son's on here. What since you've been out, you've

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<v Speaker 2>worked with so many artists who has been like the

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<v Speaker 2>funniest studio session where you guys just had a great

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<v Speaker 2>time recording.

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<v Speaker 1>Ship Man. All of them been going up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all of them go up, Nigga real man, all of

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<v Speaker 1>them Man, Mazie ship I guess with Don Kennedy, with Jay,

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<v Speaker 1>every last one of them. Man, T Flyop probably T

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<v Speaker 1>fly Man.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he'd be clown like a He flies like a

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<v Speaker 2>very underrated guy too. Yeah he's hilarious, but yeah no,

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<v Speaker 2>he's so fire.

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<v Speaker 1>For you man.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to me about like, you know, you're growing up.

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<v Speaker 2>We mentioned arras one, We mentioned a lot of that,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, you know, the music game has changed so much,

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<v Speaker 2>like hip hop is kind of evolved for like a

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<v Speaker 2>generation like my son who's eighteen, he's listening to shit

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<v Speaker 2>I would never even entertain listening to you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? But I feel like that's why people love you,

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<v Speaker 2>because you're bringing like an energy. I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>just not a part of the game no more, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. Do you feel that like do

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<v Speaker 2>you feel that pressure?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's why people resonate with you because

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<v Speaker 2>you're making like the shit that we need, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, Like, I don't think people even wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to even like or even knew that we needed.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not yup, I'm just doing me man like hoping.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even really can't say. I hope they accept it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. I mean, I'm just doing regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm not trying to please nobody or fit in.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. I'm tryna basically just dig

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<v Speaker 1>my own pave my own way. Yeah, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, to add on to the to the legacy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, what Hi Boy built man

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<v Speaker 1>and ketch.

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<v Speaker 2>Up when now you linked with Snoop?

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<v Speaker 1>What was that like? Snoop Man, It's like that's unk man.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. It's he always got something

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<v Speaker 1>positive to say, you know what I'm saying, And that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's love. You know what I'm saying coming from

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<v Speaker 1>f he he f he know the struggle, right saying

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<v Speaker 1>he done been there, He know the struggle my niggas,

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<v Speaker 1>so he he can relate, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And I when I do look at Snoop he you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, eye the eye money, I can

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<v Speaker 1>look at the nigga in the eye, like damn, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the homie. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. He ain't

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<v Speaker 1>no fake ass nigga just on some rapper shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you've been dealing with that a lot too,

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<v Speaker 2>just dealing with kind of like with this industry so

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<v Speaker 2>fair like you'll meet somebody, they'll tell you one thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a it's a very shallow industry trip though.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'll take everybody for face, vite. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, right, I'm authentic, so I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I carry everybody like they authentic too, until

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<v Speaker 1>they show me different. You know what I'm saying. Talk,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't underestimate nobody, none of that shit. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>niggas one hundred and fifty pounds, soulking, wet like niggas killers.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. You can't judge nobody bout

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<v Speaker 2>You say, white partners, hell yeah, okay, for sure, the

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<v Speaker 2>white guys hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get back to the interview for you, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, can you give me some advice, Like if

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<v Speaker 2>you if someone was listening to this or they're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing and they're incarcerated, and they're like, shit,

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<v Speaker 2>it's crazy. Like one, it's never too late to chase

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<v Speaker 2>your dreams, right, It's never too late to get.

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<v Speaker 1>Your life on the right track.

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<v Speaker 2>But also like I can only imagine that lows of

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<v Speaker 2>being incarcerated have to be the extremist of lows.

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<v Speaker 1>At times.

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<v Speaker 2>They could break you hard to get out on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of that, and like think that your life

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<v Speaker 2>isn't over, you know what I'm saying, Like what for you,

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<v Speaker 2>Like what would be your advice if somebody's incarcerated and

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<v Speaker 2>they just feel like the shit's over, like there's no hope,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, Like, just.

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<v Speaker 1>Block everybody out man, the speak negative, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Try to focus on my nigga. Just try

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<v Speaker 1>to make plans my nigga, even if you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a fucked up position between rock between the

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<v Speaker 1>hard play. They denied all your motions, your last, your habes,

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<v Speaker 1>corpus whatever. You know what I'm saying, Still shoot it in,

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<v Speaker 1>Still trying, my nigga, because you know, it's like winning

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of You gotta be in it to win it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like a lot of life.

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<v Speaker 1>As I knew, they didn't even have nothing in they

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<v Speaker 1>like matter loss already fuck it. You still gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>in that law. Wake up every morning. Now, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get in that law. Li like Brary, you gotta you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta search my niggas loopholes. It ain't about you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Niggas be feeling guilty about what they

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<v Speaker 1>did and all this ship, which is cool because you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, you got a conscious, but at

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes point you don't. You know, the crime don't match

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<v Speaker 1>the time, you know what I'm saying, And at some

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<v Speaker 1>point you gotta respect it. And it's not about what

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<v Speaker 1>we did, It's about what the fuck they did because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't even follow their own rules and regulations and

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<v Speaker 1>they lost. Yeah, you know, when they fuck up and

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<v Speaker 1>they when they violate, they not gonna say nothing, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. So you gotta keep searching for

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<v Speaker 1>the loophole because.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that something you were doing when you were incarcerated?

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<v Speaker 2>With you you were in the law library, just man,

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<v Speaker 2>did it work? Did you find out? Like, did you

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<v Speaker 2>find any anything?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Hell yeah? And I grinded it out and I

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<v Speaker 1>paid for lawyers and all kinds of ship.

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<v Speaker 2>So you like found where they fucked up and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Already knew you know what I'm saying. Basically they couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>do the ship. That's why they was kind of mad

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<v Speaker 1>at me. Was all represented myself at trial, fire my

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers and ship.

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<v Speaker 2>But where you fired your lawyers?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, yeah they Yeah, it was they was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to milk me. Uh fucking Mark garretgos charge me a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred bands, then going to trial try to get seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five more thousand. You know, say, I gave you cars?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all this kill it and you ended up representing yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I could. I was broke from the bail bondsmans

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<v Speaker 1>to lawyers. It stripped me of everything, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, And uh shit, all I had leftl of

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<v Speaker 1>cars and I gave those up watches. But other than that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so when you represent yourself, usually you hear

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<v Speaker 2>that that's a bad idea. Did How did it go

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<v Speaker 2>for you though?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean for sure you're well, I'm sure you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>read Yeah, oh god, I had all my shit tight.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was just they didn't respect that. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like a nigga up and they're telling them that would

0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:11.199
<v Speaker 1>you know how they lost? What the fuck they lost was?

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually I ended up being right. I got back on

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<v Speaker 1>the pill. You know what I'm saying. They deliberately did

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<v Speaker 1>some ship that basically just violated my rights. I knew

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't do it, and they still did it.

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<v Speaker 2>But eventually it worked out and you represented yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, at trial, I lost, but I got back on

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<v Speaker 1>a pill. Okay, okay, that's gotta be nerves.

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<v Speaker 2>I can only imagine it being in the cell the

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<v Speaker 2>day before you got to go stand in front of

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<v Speaker 2>everybody and represent yourself. You probably got all your notes

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<v Speaker 2>ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they yeah, they didn't let me do that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>They had me shackled down to the fucking chair. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, it wasn't it was just violation.

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<v Speaker 2>For real, that's crazy. That they wouldn't even allow you

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<v Speaker 2>to like stand up, have your hands free to read notes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah they yeah, you violate. That ship's crazy violent, Uh

0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:05.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, individual whatever. Fuck but that wasn't the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Just trying to discourage me. That ship's wild. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn your life movie is gonna be crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, absolutely, I got it ready, You got it ready. Yeah,

0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:18.080
<v Speaker 1>it's already written. Just it's open ending.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is your timeline that this album's out. I

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<v Speaker 2>know you guys are working NonStop. I'm sure there's more

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<v Speaker 2>than a few people that probably want to do joint

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<v Speaker 2>joint projects with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I got a Gang of Ship already.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there? Is there any other any other albums that

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<v Speaker 2>are in the Can any any joint joint.

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<v Speaker 1>Projects album with niggas? Man like Jayworthy? Me and Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Worthy got a whole album. Me and r J got

0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:45.240
<v Speaker 1>a whole album, And Killer Twine got a whole album,

0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:47.639
<v Speaker 1>and T Flying got a whole album. I got albums

0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:50.880
<v Speaker 1>with niggas, you know I'm saying. Me and uh Don

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<v Speaker 1>Kennedy got a whole album. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, yeah, and count me and fucking K

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<v Speaker 1>Boy got a whole whole album. I crip Potten talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you ain't playing? Is that like you? Are

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<v Speaker 2>you treating this shit like a job like Monday through Friday.

0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:08.640
<v Speaker 2>You gotta make sure you're in the studio like I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm treating it like the seal, like I'm gonna sale.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in lock down. Nigga in the hole, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in the booth. It is like the best seal in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Like bullshit, ain't nothing, everything come to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>That's dope, man. What was it like for you? Like

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<v Speaker 2>working with someone like Alchemists, who.

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<v Speaker 1>Is one of them?

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<v Speaker 2>Once he's like your kid, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like he one of them guys legend.

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<v Speaker 1>Alchemists made got a beautiful soul man and he like

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<v Speaker 1>this or or just you know, if you didn't know him,

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't know he he that you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>He's a bad nigga. You know what I see down

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<v Speaker 1>the earth? You feel me that nigga down the earth?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, it's crazy. You mentioned being in the hole.

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<v Speaker 2>What's that like? People don't realize that that that I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they put you in there to break you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah the shoe. Yeah, special housing unit, that was

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<v Speaker 1>my second home. So always looking up violations, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So how do you make the time go by?

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<v Speaker 1>Working out, praying, uh, you know, writing or obviously just

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<v Speaker 1>writing for sure. I wake up on my sleep with songs,

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<v Speaker 1>just writing, ready to go. Yep. Damn.

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<v Speaker 2>I can only imagine. I've heard like my cousin's in

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<v Speaker 2>prison and uh, I know the holes.

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<v Speaker 1>Shitty.

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<v Speaker 2>I can only imagine, bro, Like, eventually, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you'd be high off your thoughts. Yeah, you be there

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<v Speaker 2>tripping low key.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. For sure, ain't strong, You're gone?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, That'shit's crazy? Man? Is there anything? Because I only

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<v Speaker 2>can assume so many people have been trying to sign

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:41.960
<v Speaker 2>you to a bigger, bigger deal. Yeah, I'm sure that

0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:46.120
<v Speaker 2>calls them been coming in offers. That's got to feel good,

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<v Speaker 2>right man.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm yeah, but shit, they a don't feel good turning

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<v Speaker 1>down that much, like you know, Nigga turned down a

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<v Speaker 1>half a million dollars like, and I understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have a ticket for the advance.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, have a ticket for that van. I want of them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a couple.

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<v Speaker 2>How many albums was that?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Ship they wanted, Uh, they wanted twelve songs.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>One of twelve songs.

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<v Speaker 2>So White White obviously, you know, White White turned that

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<v Speaker 2>down keeping it independent.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Ship hit, but blew that already on me, nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like breaking even. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get way more than that. Yeah, so you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of on our masters. Man, We're just making a statement, man, pushing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know the thing that was double about hip boys,

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<v Speaker 2>He's like being extremely transparent about some of the stuff

0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 2>he's gone through with like predatory record deals and or

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<v Speaker 2>pup deals specifically in the music industry. So I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like there's anybody who could kind of be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds good until it ain't good.

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<v Speaker 1>Way more. Yeah, for sure, you know, we're just pushing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we're just working, man, We're not really even

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<v Speaker 1>tripping off the bread right now. We're comfortable, you know,

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:06.720
<v Speaker 1>we know it's gonna come later. It's like planting seeds,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So we're trying to control

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<v Speaker 1>the market, my nigga, control our market and just create

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<v Speaker 1>a whole new lane. You know what, I'm saying, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come through the podcast. We're gonna do our own

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:21.040
<v Speaker 1>fucking you guys gonna do a podcast. Yeah, I have

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<v Speaker 1>my own podcast fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you interviewing people.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about me. Yeah, we gonna be you know KK.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my uh, that's my uh my ship career Criminal

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<v Speaker 1>Entertainment Fire. So we're gonna be fucking with everybody fresh

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:38.679
<v Speaker 1>out the pen, niggas that got our niggas that are

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<v Speaker 1>still in the prison, you know, and just uh, basically

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<v Speaker 1>trying to change some ship because man, we had we

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<v Speaker 1>we have a snowball chance in hell, like everything we

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<v Speaker 1>did we get convicted of because we was basically judged

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<v Speaker 1>by the bigger brother in the system, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you get out and now and then you

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<v Speaker 2>got that on your it's almost like like a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like the scarlet letter, Like you can't get jobs. You know,

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:05.920
<v Speaker 2>there's certain things you can't get qualified for if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a feeling like they really make your life living hell

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<v Speaker 2>like for real, like you really got to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>they almost make it to where you want to go

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<v Speaker 2>do some more legal ship because they make it hard

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<v Speaker 2>for you to do legal ship once you get out.

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<v Speaker 1>To it. You got to get back to it on me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because that's not for this.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have been I would have been on one.

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<v Speaker 2>Once you apply for that job, you gotta hear are

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<v Speaker 2>you a feling yes or no?

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody applying for the job.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, I'm I'm talking about just like most

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<v Speaker 2>people who get out, they want they want to try

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<v Speaker 2>to like Traden their ship up.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, man, that'd be dope.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the podcast direction.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll be hard. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, would you ever write a book?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I'll tell you. I'll finish.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta do the book first, then then the show

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<v Speaker 2>with the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, that's how it's probably supposed to go.

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<v Speaker 2>You would think, right then based on the number one

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<v Speaker 2>best selling novel. Right then you got the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're doing a documentary. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>We already chopped with my uncle from New York. You

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. My dad from New York. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. So let's start with him. You

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. He was an orphan and shit,

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 1>and his mama was a dope fan. My grandmama hairon addict.

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, what I'm saying. He was a whole baby.

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<v Speaker 1>He feel me, So she did with a whoop. And

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<v Speaker 1>they lived the rough ast life, my nigga. And and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he grew up in the orphanage and ship

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<v Speaker 1>and he was out there niggas singing in front of

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<v Speaker 1>trash cans and all that shit in New York. Niggas great,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know what I'm saying, robbing niggas and all

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<v Speaker 1>that shit. And then he went to the Marines and

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<v Speaker 1>and did this thing up up there in Vietnam and

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<v Speaker 1>got out, you know, and spoiled the shit out of me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I was like, you know, I heard Vietnam

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<v Speaker 2>was wild man.

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<v Speaker 1>Buck fucking wild, crazy bro.

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 2>So your pops was in Vietnam.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was a tunnel rack nigga.

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<v Speaker 2>He probably he probably told you some crazy stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh man, This nigga was killing niggas bigging holes and

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<v Speaker 1>they walked by, slipped their throat, pull him in, pull

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<v Speaker 1>him in there and sleep with them. Oh man, hole,

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<v Speaker 1>get fully dig another hole, getting closer to the count.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, we gotta stop the interview real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Vietnam like in terms of the more modern like Wars

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<v Speaker 2>was like the most brutal. Yeah, they weren't playing over there,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, he slept with his eyes open.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, that's just crazy with their eyes open.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that he like this and the fourth of July.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm even tweaking.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he had PTSD. So if you heard like fireworks

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<v Speaker 2>are probably Jesus, I can only imagine. Man, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>Man, damn.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you got PTSD.

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<v Speaker 1>Psilocybin, man, yeah, I'm a little something. Sound like people

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<v Speaker 1>standing behind me for sure, That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, we gotta do what we got document we did.

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<v Speaker 2>We gotta do a podcast with you on mushrooms. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that should have got platinum. Yo, how do

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<v Speaker 2>you feel being because I'm thinking like next year. Soon

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have the new Freshman cover. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be kind of crazy if you made the Freshman cover.

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<v Speaker 2>How old are you?

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't mind me asking, fifty two?

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<v Speaker 2>If you made the Freshman cover at fifty two, that'd

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<v Speaker 2>be fucking.

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<v Speaker 1>Wild with Freshman cover the double XL.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, have you heard of the double XEL Freshman cover?

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<v Speaker 2>So they double XL every year they put a cover

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<v Speaker 2>out with like the hot Freshman class of rappers. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're kind of like you're a new artist, this is

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<v Speaker 2>your first album. Yeah, for so you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that shit's crazy, Like how do you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>because you don't, like, you know, your kid is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like the og in the music game for you, right,

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<v Speaker 2>even though you're his og, right, but you're in a

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<v Speaker 2>very we've never seen this happen before, man, but I

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 2>feel like that's like a real thing that could happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I feel like you could be on the Freshman cover.

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<v Speaker 1>In like three or four months, man, for real, don't sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>Try to put you got to pitch yourself for that

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<v Speaker 2>shit though.

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, I mean the Billboard, I mean anything you

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<v Speaker 1>have with shit.

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<v Speaker 2>That shit crazy man ship, you could be my dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Low key, bro, I'm thirty cent.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, this nigga older than you, hit boy, older

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<v Speaker 1>than you?

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<v Speaker 2>You was getting it in. Yeah yeah so wait, so

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<v Speaker 2>how old were you when you had hit fourteen? Oh shit,

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<v Speaker 2>that's how my sister was. My sister had my niece

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<v Speaker 2>when she was fourteen?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>What's your was?

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<v Speaker 1>Was your?

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<v Speaker 2>Was his mom fourteen as well?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Oh so that was like, yeah I matter that?

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<v Speaker 1>But what baby was? Thirteen? It was a high school

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<v Speaker 1>summer school?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that your first time with what was hits mom?

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<v Speaker 2>Your first girl?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? Did you mean that was my first baby? Mama?

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm talking about? But you ain't lose your virginity

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<v Speaker 2>with her?

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<v Speaker 1>Na? Man? I was like, man, I was young? Dug

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<v Speaker 1>he was snapped? How old were you when you lost

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<v Speaker 1>your virginity? Man? Young?

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Like fucking like twelve?

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking though, like fucking eight or nine? Nigga, Like how

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<v Speaker 1>old was the girl you fucked with? You? And ready

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<v Speaker 1>like almost she probably was like twenty? Oh she was

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<v Speaker 1>a child molester.

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<v Speaker 2>She should be imprinted. It was the reverse r Kelly happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just wasn't. Was she a teacher?

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<v Speaker 1>Nah?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you know these days teachers is out here fucking

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<v Speaker 2>hell of kids. Nah nah, I feel I wish I

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<v Speaker 2>would have caught that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, for real, my hommy called me up there and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, come and get some pussy. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>where are you at? She went to cracking? Nah no,

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<v Speaker 1>you never went up there, and they was really pulling

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<v Speaker 1>the trade.

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<v Speaker 2>It was everybody was just getting it in. He was like,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, like, no cool, so you just hopped in. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>When they left out, that ship's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>God, oh my god, I left. I raised up Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>I see I didn't lose my virginity. So I was fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>but I fingered sucked the chick when I was twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I got my dick sect in a Mexican

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<v Speaker 2>strip club when I was thirteen. I went there with

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<v Speaker 2>my cousin. Were on vacation, and he paid to get

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<v Speaker 2>me in the strip clubs and Rocky Point and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I got domed up by this chicken.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like fifteen dollars, super cheap, cheap as fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what I'm saying, I don't even won't That.

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<v Speaker 2>Strip club is still there, wild wows great place where? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Rocky Point, Porto Pinasco is a place called wild Ways Cray.

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 2>I went in there with a with my girl and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know, I've got my first fucking

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<v Speaker 2>blow drove. Well, I've heard of that place. How was it, dad?

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<v Speaker 1>Man? It was turned up?

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<v Speaker 2>I've only heard of it. I've never been it was

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 2>turned up. Yeah, there's a new place out there to

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 2>bring them back over. There's a new place out there

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I've heard about. It's called Hong Kong. I heard it's good.

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't go, obviously I'm married, but I heard it's

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<v Speaker 2>a good place. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I went over there when I first got out.

0:34:57.680 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh you went over there like like this this go

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<v Speaker 2>around to the Alasta Okay? And you didn't you didn't participate?

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<v Speaker 1>No, nah, hell no, I was spoke. They was too

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<v Speaker 1>like too cheap, too cheap? And two four like.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you want their prostitutes? You want them to

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 2>like do you want them to take you on a date?

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I wanted it is easy.

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<v Speaker 2>You say, that's the whole point of the place and

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 2>ship back back then, because what was that twenty twelve

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 2>you got out or twenty eleven.

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Thirteen, twenty fucking nah. Damn the fuck did I get out?

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know when the fuck I got.

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Out because it was grounded. My whole life was at

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:32.720
<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen.

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I was twenty yeah, thirteen thirteen fourteen. Yeah, so I

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 1>got out twenty thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Adelete has had to be cheap as hell

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 2>back then.

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're tripping twenty dollars easy for a girl something

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you ever have like girls visit you? Like, like,

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 2>I always wonder how the visitation ship works, cause you

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:50.240
<v Speaker 2>know there's some guys who get the conjugal visits.

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I ain't getting none of that.

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:53.240
<v Speaker 2>None of that because you got to be married, right.

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Married, I got married and ship that didn't. I still

0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 1>lost my ship.

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<v Speaker 2>You lost your rights because you got in trouble, right. Yeah,

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:04.400
<v Speaker 2>we're like guards, like, uh.

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>I was in the state this last round in the fairs.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't get none of that. We don't get no nothing. Damn. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I always wonder because you'll see like the conjugal

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 2>visits on TV or like, uh, these female guards be

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 2>out here phone in love with prisoners. And then did

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:24.719
<v Speaker 2>you see that the chick who helped the guy break out? Yeah,

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 2>that ship's crazy on me and now she's he tripped. Yeah,

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 2>like you fuck that up, bro, like it up? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that shit crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Look.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, the new album is out, man, I hope everybody.

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Uh So, obviously people can go by the album and

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<v Speaker 2>get one.

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<v Speaker 1>Of these absolutely big hit loop dot com my nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>The truth is in My eyes teas the big hit

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<v Speaker 1>of free teas. I'm talking about the truth is in

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<v Speaker 1>my eyes. T's the the yam tease.

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<v Speaker 2>All that, and this is one of the crazier the

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<v Speaker 2>magazine Oh the hood he just said the hoodie too,

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<v Speaker 2>my nigga, and this is one of the crazy for

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<v Speaker 2>this being your debut album. Just for people who are

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<v Speaker 2>not clear on who's on this album, r J J Worthy,

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<v Speaker 2>from the East Side of Benny the Butcher. Jesus. It's impressive, man, man,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you go buy Wait, this is new. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>see this. This is the crazy in the hood. That's

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<v Speaker 2>crazy truth. So make sure you go support man buy

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<v Speaker 2>it and if you if yeah, I mean ship, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't stream it, so you gotta buy.

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<v Speaker 1>It on me. You got a bott I'm about the

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<v Speaker 1>trunk with it, my nigga, like like Nip did with

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<v Speaker 1>the Proud to Pay you feel me, I'm about the

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<v Speaker 1>trunk with it, my nigga. I ain't selling no bricks

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<v Speaker 1>from selling CDs. Love to support you, big hit.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you, bro, Thank you, Yes, sir, respect fire

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