1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: M hm hm. Welcome back all the smoke Atlanta. It's 2 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: been a good trip so far. Bro. Yeah they times 3 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: shouting were in here day two. Uh we got All 4 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: Star fifth year, six years, it's my six years, bro. Man, 5 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Dejon T. Murray, appreciate your time. Man, 6 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: let me a minute. So I'm glad we got uh 7 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: got you locked in. But DJ on the couch man, 8 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: Huh what's been posted? Yeah, I've been going back and 9 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: forth them on the d M for maybe be too 10 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: trying to catch up. Let's say, you know, schedules they're busy, 11 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: are you know? But welcome to the show. Man. How's life? 12 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: What's going on? How how are you adjusting to Atlanta? Man? 13 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: First of all, life is great, brouh you know where 14 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: we come from. When you see another day, it's a blessing. Uh, 15 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, And obviously to be in the situation I'm 16 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 1: in in life in general, just you know, be able 17 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: to try to find that peace, you know, some happiness 18 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: and doing the right thing. Uh. You know, So life's great. Uh. 19 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: You know. As far as adjusting Atlanta, ship, I'm trying to. 20 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: I'll be inside, bro, be outside. You know, I've been chilling. 21 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: I like to be in my own bubble, uh, locked 22 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: in uh with my family, so I'm adjusted to it. 23 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: I know they get lit up here. So I think 24 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: you just now you haven't you got another one on 25 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: the way an evaculation. Yeah, how's that? What's that feeling? Like? Right? 26 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: You got a girl? Dad? But what's that? What I mean, 27 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: what's that feeling? Like? Explained fatherhood to us in your opinion? 28 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: I mean, uh, you know I grew up. You know, 29 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: I always had uncle's aunties, my grandmother, my mother, and 30 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: my father. You know, Uh it was around, but my 31 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: mom I didn't really grow up with that that that 32 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: relationship like mom son dad. So you feel me. So 33 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: it was more like a I call it like a 34 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: group home, but it was love. It was me and 35 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: all my family and raising my grandma's house. So it's like, uh, 36 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: you know, it kind of it hit different for me 37 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: knowing that, like I ain't had taking me to school, 38 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: taking me the activities, uh, waking up with breakfast, lunch, dinner, 39 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: all that, like you know what I mean. So having 40 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: my daughter, it's it's it's easy because it's what I'm 41 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: supposed to do. I always tell people I love for 42 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: people that don't know me that see you know me 43 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: being a father, Like, don't praise me for something I'm 44 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: supposed to do, you know what I'm saying. So you 45 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: know it's it's crazy. I got another girl on the way. 46 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: My daughter is excited. I'm excited. Uh you know. But 47 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: but father was everything to me. Come first. I got 48 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: five girls, so I know the feeling. Speaking of your father, 49 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: I saw recently before I go to my question, and 50 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: I saw you, um you talk about you were raised. 51 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: When I saw you reached out to your father and 52 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: bottom a truck and still kind of kind of mentor 53 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: that relationship to talk talking a little boy, because that 54 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: that means a lot. I did the same thing for 55 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: my father died like he stayed five minutes away from it, 56 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: but wasn't there. But as I became a man and 57 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: had kids by other women, I understand how it could 58 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: be difficult, how could not just be his fault. And 59 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: I reached out to him and built our relationship before 60 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: he passed. So talk about it because I saw you 61 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: did the same thing for your pa. You were just man, 62 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: you pulled up with a truck phone. Yeah, no, I mean, 63 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, I love my dad, Like, I think the 64 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: difference that we have is I don't be trying to 65 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: tell him like you were, Dad, be like I ain't 66 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: on that, you know what I'm saying. Like for me, 67 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: it's the times I needed you, you know what I mean, 68 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: I just want to answer you could told me like 69 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't right. This was going on like 70 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: I'm grown that I ain't a little boy. So it's 71 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: like we can have them conversations. So it was like 72 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: it was really you know, obviously I didn't grow up 73 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: living with him, but I remember being around him and 74 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: all that, and uh, you know, we just bumped his 75 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: I think from from my teenage from being what eleven 76 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: Levin all the way to you know, like seventeen eighteen, 77 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: and I always asked them like let's just have a conversation, 78 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: like I want you to get to know me, like 79 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: I ain't the innocent little kid that he was used 80 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: to being around because we were in a long time 81 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: not seeing each other, you know what I mean. Even 82 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: to this day, you know, we're still bumping heads. But 83 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: I'll be telling them like I love you, like I 84 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: brought you to high school games, college games, the draft, 85 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: you know, trying to build that relationship with him, because 86 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's not easy, but it's not hard, 87 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it ain't about the 88 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: materialistic things for me, Like none of that moved me, 89 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: you feel me. But I just know from a kid 90 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: that he always liked the Tahoe you know what I'm saying. 91 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: And I ain't really did nothing for him since I 92 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: made it, because my main thing, then let's built that 93 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: father and some relationship and and all that extra stuff 94 00:04:58,560 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: could come with it, you know what I'm saying. But 95 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: I want to build that, like I want that like 96 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm in the league, bro, Like I want you to 97 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: be able to be at the games. I want to 98 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: be able to talk after the games like my father 99 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: and my mother. So it's like for me and him, 100 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: we still just it's it's still hard, what I'm saying, 101 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: but me remembrance as a kid that he liked to 102 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: hoos and knowing that the family, you know, he's living 103 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: in Hawaii right now with his wife and uh three 104 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: my little sisters. So knowing that you know they are 105 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: a family. Uh, I'm like, damn, he got cars, he 106 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: ain't got no truck. So that's just me always thinking 107 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: to my people, Bro, I'm gonna give her, you know 108 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you know, it wasn't even about 109 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: the truck or nothing. It was just something that I 110 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: wanted to do and just help him and let him know, 111 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: like I love you, you know what I mean, No 112 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: matter what, Like I love you, You're gonna always be 113 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: blessed for that map, for that mentality and attitude. Last June, 114 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: you got traded by the Spurs to the Hawks. How 115 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: did you find out? Yeah? Man, Uh, I think I 116 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: was in New York. I was in New York. Uh, 117 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: just chilling, working out homies and ship and uh, me 118 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: and Pop was talking. I was in a bunch of 119 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: like it start heating up. I was in trade talks, 120 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: but it was always BS. You know, Pop you being 121 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: around and uh it was BS. He would call me 122 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: like it ain't nothing, it ain't nothing. Then they start 123 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: heating up. And then I started asking questions though, because 124 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: I'm in the gym every day. Like I stayed in 125 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: San Antonio. I didn't leave for the summers, go back home, 126 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: go l a, none of that. Staying in San Antonio. Yeah, 127 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I'm just curious to where we're going, 128 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: what we're doing, you know what I mean, because not 129 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: alone that I'm growing, but we're drafting younger guys and 130 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: it's like it ain't fair to them, and it ain't 131 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: fair to me because you know, I'm doing this and 132 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: they just getting here. And you know what I'm saying. 133 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: So always I wasn't a selfish type to be like, 134 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: oh we gotta get better players, We gotta do this 135 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: because they all talented. You here for a reason, you 136 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But for me, I just explain 137 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: the popping them guys like it's just ain't fair for 138 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: them trying to develop and then me, you know, reaching 139 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: the level beach and I'm got years ahead of them 140 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: and and just figuring out what we're doing. And uh, 141 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: you know, they asked me, you know, teams that I 142 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: like to play for, and you know, um, Atlanta was 143 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: a team not only you know, because of Trede Young, 144 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: but just you know, the culture are people's out here, 145 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, and I love it. 146 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: We played there last year before the All Star Game. 147 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: We came here and played and uh, I just felt 148 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: the vibe. I felt the atmosphere and it was something 149 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: I want to be a part of. That's dope, I know. 150 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: I mean me playing in San Antonio. I know like 151 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: I left twice, and I know how that situation could 152 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: the whole players back. I went through it because while 153 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: I went through it, I became a better player once 154 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: I left. I appreciate the opportunity because I got a 155 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: chance to play with Timid Dave, win the championship and 156 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: all that. But that's it. That system is not for everybody, 157 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: and I saw that with you. You know, the same 158 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: thing I said with Uh was true when I got 159 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: there with K. I see the same thing with DJ Bro. 160 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: I said, it's about to happen. He's gonna get tired 161 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: because he's not growing as a player. They wanted to 162 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: continue to stay in that system, but he's not gonna 163 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: be the best him in that system. Am I right? 164 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: Of course? You you you witnessed it. You was there. 165 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, So you could see between 166 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: all that to be able to fake all of it, 167 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So of course, and it's professional, 168 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: don't give me it's professional. Is a great organization to 169 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: be a part of. But if you're not Tony Parker, Genoboli, 170 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: Tim Duncan. That's that's not a place where you would 171 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: have longevity. So I was glad to see you leave, 172 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: and I was glad to see popping them seeing you 173 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: somewhere where you could you know what I'm saying, when 174 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: you can flourish immediately, because they will send you to 175 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: somewhere where you disappear, especially they know they got to 176 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: play you again, you know what I mean. And that's 177 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: one thing about my second time. He didn't want to 178 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: send me the Clippers. He just cut me so I 179 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: couldn't sign with nobody else because the players about to start. 180 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: I get it, I wouldnt want to see me either, 181 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: But I get I wouldn't want to let me. Even 182 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: the league, everybody, me living here in Atlanta, everybody was 183 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: excited to see you in trade together. How how has 184 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: it Phil been on the corporate trade right now? Building 185 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: that chemistry? I mean, it's it's uh, it's a process, 186 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I'm trying to put 187 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: that through his head the rest of the team's head, 188 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: like it's a it's a journey. It's a process, and 189 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: what we want don't come overnight. It ain't easy. This 190 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: league's a monster as we know, you guys know former 191 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 1: players like the talents off the roof, you know what 192 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you know, obviously I like playing with him, 193 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: just he could pass the ball, he could screw the ball. 194 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: And I try to tell a lot of people like 195 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: just around me, like I don't think he gets the 196 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: credit that he deserves far as being his height and 197 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: what he does. Know what I'm saying, Like, I'm six five, bro, 198 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean. So I'm not gonna 199 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: say easier, but six ft six five, that's a big 200 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: difference in this league, you know what I mean. So 201 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: to see him be able to be a thirty and 202 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: ten guy like at his size, I don't think he 203 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: even realized it how impressive it is, you know what 204 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, But we're still trying to figure it out. 205 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: You know, I'm somebody I don't want nothing easy. You know, 206 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: I'm bill for adversity. I try to tell them like, 207 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: we don't want nothing easy because at the end we're 208 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: gonna smile, you know, we're gonna laugh, joke everything. But 209 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: all the hard times you gotta grind it out. Do 210 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: you want it to you, don't you know what I'm saying. So, 211 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: I mean I like playing with him. Uh, you know, 212 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: like I said, it's a journey, it's a process. So 213 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: you gotta just these are things that you just gotta 214 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: sit and just watch, you know what I mean. But 215 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: that's that's that's nothing from San Antonio. So you're coming 216 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: from San Antonio. You have more years of experience than 217 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: you do years of playing here. But if they teach 218 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: you so much over there, you know what I'm saying, 219 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: You your your basketball are you grows there? And that's 220 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: good for this team because the team has some ups 221 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: and homes. Before you got here, they got high, your 222 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: back low again, and but you have be coming there 223 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: to let this guys know, hey, we got a new team, 224 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: but we you know, we're still growing. That's important, Bro, 225 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: that's important because look at Boston. It's just on the 226 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: half of Boston. They drafted that and it's just starting 227 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: to happen. So the fact that you're coming in being 228 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: a leader speaking like that, that's good for your square. Bro. 229 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: No for sure. Uh. Born and raised in Seattle. Uh. 230 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: Incarcerated at a young age. Uh, how did that shape 231 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: your point of view? Once you left that situation. That's 232 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 1: why I love him, That's why I fell in love 233 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: with him because I knew a story. Now you know, 234 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: it's love both of y'all. Ship. But I mean, you know, 235 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: that was my environment. Like my mom. My mom, she 236 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: grew up in prison, you know what I'm saying. Like 237 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: she was in, out of prison and out of jail 238 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: all the time, you know, from a kid juvenile all 239 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: the way to county of the prison. And then my 240 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: dad he was you know, he was a hustler, uh 241 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: you know, but he he didn't really do no time 242 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: like that. He'd been to jail in and out, but 243 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: he didn't really do no time like my mom. So 244 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: but that was my environment. You know. Uh, when you 245 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: just you just probably get in your environment. You you 246 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: just go to flow. You're trying to make it to 247 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: the next day survival, you know what I'm saying. And 248 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: I had to that had to be my mindset at 249 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: ten years old, eleven years old, you know right away, 250 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: even before that. But I always had good people like uncles, 251 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: my grandma and you know, all the aunties and stuff 252 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: that looked after me. We just a bad kids running 253 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: around the neighborhood, running around the house. You know, as 254 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: it got to ten eleven years old, is you know 255 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: when I started getting active. You know what I mean, 256 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: always is around older people, and uh, you know, first 257 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: time juvenile was eleven eleven, and then thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, 258 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: and I think the last time was fifteen. I knew 259 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: I was always talented in basketball, and the judges always 260 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: has had something for me. It was like it was 261 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: already written from God, or like I was always getting 262 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: smacks on the risk, you know what I mean. And 263 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm watching my homies get thirty years, forty years, all 264 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: the way to eighty years. Partners I talked to till 265 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: this day. Every day, you know what I'm saying. And 266 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: I remember the last time I went. It's a story 267 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: I never told nobody. I told people around me. But 268 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm fifteen and I'm in juvenile and they detained me. 269 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: They keep me, they keep me in for extra thirty days. 270 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm thinking I'm getting out. My upposed to be at practice, 271 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be at school. So there's a big 272 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: game coming up. It's Raynard Beach Verse botho Zach Lavine 273 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: went to Bathe So the whole city they knew I 274 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: was younger and he was older getting ready to go 275 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: to u C. L A. But they knew the talent 276 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: was there, so they was hyping the game up right 277 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: at SPU when all have his cross over at and Uh, 278 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: they're hyping this game up. I'm in juvenile. I missed 279 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: the game, biggest game of the year, biggest game in 280 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: the city. And for me, it wasn't because it was 281 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: hyping the game up. It just was, you know, opportunity 282 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: to go out showcase myself, you know what I mean, 283 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: and and show that I'm I'm ready to be the 284 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: next guy, knowing that Zack's head in the college and 285 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: then you know, obviously the NBA, so I'm in there. Uh, 286 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: and I'm just thinking, like this ain't the life I want, 287 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, this is not the 288 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: life I want, you know what I mean, Like even 289 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: if it ain't basketball, Like I gotta figure it out. 290 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: And obviously I had a great support system. Uh you 291 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: know my uncle's you know, they built the plan for me. 292 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: They're like, we're about to move him out the hood. 293 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: We're about to move them, you know, with my anti 294 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: arresting peace. He's a hundred seven years old. I lived 295 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: with her, and they was like, we're gonna move him 296 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: out the way, We're gonna home school them, and you 297 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: know the rest was history. Bro. I got out, moved away, 298 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: moved away from my family, the hood. Everything it was 299 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: like I was ghosts. I was gone Jim House, gym 300 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: house every day for three years, sophomore the senior year. 301 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: And I just seen you know what, them tables turning 302 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: when you start doing the right thing. I feel like 303 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: God bless you, and God start blessing me each and 304 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: every day. Uh, Rainier Beach High School three time champ 305 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: guys such as Doug Christie, Nate Robinson, Jamal Crawford, Kevin 306 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: Porter jr. Um. What did that mean? Seeing all the 307 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: dudes before you make that next jump, not only the college, 308 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: but have successful careers in the league. I mean it speaks, 309 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: It speaks volumes of uh you know the high school. 310 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: Uh you know what we what we represent. Uh shout 311 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: out coach Mike there. Uh he'd been a coach there 312 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: to coach all them guys all the way up to 313 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: right now. And UH, for me, it just it just 314 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: motivated me, you know, seeing them guys being around them, 315 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: guys playing against them, guys getting to pick their brain. 316 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: But more so, uh, you know, I took all the 317 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: situations and just use it for what to do and 318 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: not to do. Uh, you know, because we got a 319 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: lot of guys, uh, even you know Terence Williams, he 320 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: went there nice, you know what I'm saying. And for me, 321 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: like I just I just utilized all that, Bro, I 322 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: just I took advantage of it. You know, I didn't 323 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: played with like I said, when I changed my life 324 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm gonna do the right thing. 325 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: I was to take advantage of everything good, bad, but 326 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: mainly the good. And you know, all them guys played 327 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: a part in where I'm at today. You remember your name, 328 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: Doug Ran, Yeah, that's my cousin. That's your cousin. That's 329 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: my blood cousin. Bro, that's my cousin. So talented, bro, 330 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: but always was always in some ship, always to play together. 331 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: And then you Doug was so fucking cool. BROA tell 332 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: him if what I'm gonna tell you, he's still crazy. 333 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: He was crazy, but but that he had so much game, bro, 334 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: and went to the dog. Yeah. Yeah. So I got 335 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: a chance to meet you at Jamal Crawford's wedding and 336 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: we know what kind of obviously, what kind of basketball 337 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 1: had Jamal is. So Jamal doesn't tell none of us 338 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: this ship. So we get there the first day. You 339 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. I'm I'm jumping off the bus. 340 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm jumping off the plane, going to smoke, drinking. Okay, 341 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: I got a couple of days off. The chill hits us. 342 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: We got some ship to do at midnight. I was like, midnight, 343 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: what you're talking about? Yeah, we're gonna play some basketball, 344 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: Like come on, why what you talking about? Like huh. 345 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: So we end up going to where he has this 346 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: proram at. When I tell you that ship was sold 347 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: out at midnight, jack like six thousand people and that 348 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: they packed little skinny dude with the curly tops, I 349 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: didn't know who he was. This motherfucker killed had like 350 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: almost fifty. There was only maybe a sophomore junior. What 351 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: I was a junior junior. I was going to my junior, 352 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: I believe, when I tell you, stole the show. Like 353 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: no one was playing super serious until they saw how 354 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: hard he was going. And then him and Jamal started 355 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: going there. I was like, yo, who is he's He's 356 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: going to the projec. That's that's the little homie. He's nice. 357 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: He's supposed to go to you, douve. I'm like, damn, 358 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: this little niggas cold. But you know me, I was 359 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: trying to chill and this dude just came in the 360 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: gym killing. But that was always went a little hung man. 361 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: But that was Jamal's like that. That's his bachelor party 362 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: playing basketball. And then I was like, what are we 363 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: doing in here? But that's when I got a chance 364 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: to meet him and just saw and ever since then, 365 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: I just kind of started phoning him and just continuing 366 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: to see his growth. And obviously, you know, Seattle is 367 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: a hotbed for talent, and like you said, everyone played 368 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: a part and you kind of making it. But speak 369 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: to the importance of a kind of mentor Jamal Crawford 370 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: had been to you and meant to you. I mean, 371 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: you know, Maul was the mall was the first pro 372 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: that I ever met. You know, I remember it was 373 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: like sixth grade and at this time that was a 374 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: time where I was being a knucklehead but still playing 375 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: a U ball and uh, he got a close friend, coach, 376 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: teammate he played with, but their close friends or his 377 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: names Dave King Uh, and Dave told him like, man, 378 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta look out for Terry's nephew. Terry's 379 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: my uncle that grew up with him, and he's like, 380 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: you gotta look out for his nephew. He cold, he's 381 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: sixth grade with he cold. And to me, they like 382 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: Jamal Cawford come to your game, and I'm like, ship, 383 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: I don't care, like I'm going to hoop, you know 384 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: what I mean. Like I didn't know the importance of 385 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: positive successful people. Like all I knew was my environment, 386 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was like I 387 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: ain't cared to take photos, autographs and none of that, 388 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But obviously I knew who 389 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: he was and that was somebody always heard of and stuff. 390 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: So I remember meeting him sixth grade. I think I 391 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: scored like forty points that game, and he came up 392 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: to me after and he's like, you got it, you 393 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean? And we locked in and ever 394 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: since then it was more like, you know, just him 395 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: teaching this, teaching that allowing me to be in the 396 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: gym with him, Uh, bringing y'all back a bunch of 397 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: you guys and the pros and allowing us to be 398 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: around pros and see what it's like to be a professional. 399 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: Not the money, not the fame or even your profession. 400 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: Just you know what I mean. You see how y'all 401 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: carry yourself, See how chew y'all real y'all that could 402 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: still come and be around the youth, you know what 403 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So just just about him doing that, you know, 404 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: it speaks volumes in you know, I forever salute them 405 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: just for taking me under his wing when he have 406 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: to a million other kids that you could have chose, 407 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So just having somebody like that, 408 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: you know, be in my corner. Uh, you know, it's 409 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: all love. And like I tell him, you know, I'm 410 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: forever in debt with you, I'm always thankful and grateful 411 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: famam um. Obviously the Sonics growing up? How many times 412 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: does he take of you a day? Yeah? How many times? 413 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: A crazy bro? What fingers? Uh huh? What was it 414 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: like getting a chance to be a part of his 415 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: his program? Lead again, seeing those guys come through such 416 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: Lebron and you name it, everyone's been through that league. 417 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: But was a part of What was it like growing 418 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: up and being a part of it. I mean, I 419 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: think it's it's powerful because obviously the Sonics is gone, 420 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So he don't have to 421 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: do that. Obviously he took along and put it on 422 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: the weight on his shoulder from Doug Christie. But he 423 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: ain't got to do that. You know, you play and 424 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: then you know, in the summers, y'all both players, So 425 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: y'all know, time go back like this, you know what 426 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So for him, he gives his twelve months 427 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: a year to basketball, you know what I'm saying. He 428 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: was playing in the the league seven eight months. Then the 429 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: rest he was coming to you know, pro and prom 430 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: and promo. So to see it grow from Rayner Beach 431 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: High School too, it was at the Vista and now 432 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: he's at you know, SPU were it's a bigger venue. 433 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: You know. Just to see it grow and watch all 434 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: these guys come there and just seeing the love that 435 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: it gets just proves that we need a team, you 436 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So always say like we get 437 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: a team. I feel like they got to give him 438 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: the credit he deserved, you know what I mean, because 439 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: just what he does every summer, you know, obviously we 440 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: all play a part in it, but you know he's 441 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: the he's the main point of it, and he's the 442 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: man behind it. And uh, you know those are the 443 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: flowers I give him to this day, and I'm gonna 444 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: give him after this day, you know what I mean, 445 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: just knowing that we don't got a team and you 446 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 1: bring pros to the city. You've been very vocal on 447 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: social media talking to your NBA brothers about coming out 448 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: and playing and whatever problem is it just to give 449 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: fans an opportunity to see you. Where did that come from? 450 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: Is that from growing up in it pretty much and 451 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: seeing what it does to the city. I think just 452 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: growing up from it, but also just who I stand for, 453 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: who I am as a person, Like none of this 454 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: money fame, like they don't move to jon Bro like 455 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: for real, Like you know what I mean, Like I 456 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: know who I am, I'm true to who I am, 457 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: and I remember being that kid on that side, you 458 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and not thinking like I ain't 459 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: never gonna meet a pro, you know what I mean. 460 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: I never thought I would meet to pro even when 461 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: I heard of Jamal and Jason all them guys. And 462 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, I ain't never gonna meet them, you know 463 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So just knowing that I made it 464 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: this far and I made it to this, I know 465 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 1: it ain't nothing for us to go play, you know, 466 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: for free, but in front of the youth, for just 467 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: low income people that can't afford to see us play. 468 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: You got into a back and forth with another up 469 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: and coming out of your way, Polo, during the summer, 470 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: and and it got physical and it got real, and 471 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: I liked it because, like I said, I think that basketball, 472 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: that type of basketball has gone. But was that just competitive? 473 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: Did you guys have a little bit of funk? Or 474 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: was it just on the court? And it was cool? 475 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 1: The thing about me, But like you said, I love it, 476 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: Like I wish the league right now was more like 477 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: a grab you could r rock, you know what I'm saying. 478 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: Like that's where I come from, you know what I'm saying. 479 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: So I love it me personally, but a lot of 480 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: people can't really take it. So with with Polo, like 481 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: I love Polo, you know what I mean? Like Polos 482 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: he's the one, you know what I'm saying. It like, 483 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: ain't no competition in my head with none of us 484 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: the guys that already made it and the ones that 485 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: made it and the ones that's trying to make it. 486 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: But for me with him, like it was competitive, Like 487 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't talk one thing about me. I don't talk 488 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: when I played basketball because I know that I played 489 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: the game how it's supposed to be played, and I 490 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: played hard. So it's like, I'm gonna get the best 491 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: of you, you know what I mean. And I'm gonna 492 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: do my thing regardless. So you know, with that, they 493 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: started Rob Ryan, you know what I mean. Uh, it 494 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: was it was it was I t Zeken and the 495 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: Zeke and I ain't gonna get no pros. I'm like, 496 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm bringing a couple of my brothers from the hood, 497 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of these guys, you know, some 498 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: of the dudes that's trying to go overseas or some 499 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: of the ones in college that need the opportunity. That's 500 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: what I'm going to get. I was the only pro 501 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: And that was like the topic everybody was saying. All 502 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: the top teams playing, Uh, They're like, oh, baby, boys, 503 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: team just got he got a bunch of hood this 504 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: and that ain't got nobody. They ain't gonna win nothing, 505 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: you know, what I'm saying. So I'm hearing all my 506 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: armies just telling me and I ain't. I'm like, I 507 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: ain't triping. So we get to the game and the 508 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: sideline is talking crazy like when I don't go outside, 509 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: so when I travel, like we don't play that, you 510 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like we move how we're supposed 511 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: to move. So I got all my people with me, 512 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and they just watched me. 513 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: Who they enjoying it, you know what I'm saying, And 514 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: they just run. They just yapping. Started with the bench, 515 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: then it started with the players. Then a lot of 516 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: disrespectful things that I won't get into details start happening, 517 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I'm more with shocked. 518 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: The line got crossed. That line got crossed. You feel 519 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: me like even seeing like I don't follow the media, bro. 520 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: You can say good things about me, bad things about me. 521 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: It ain't gonna move me. It ain't stopping what I'm 522 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: doing or who I am. But it's like I'm looking 523 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: at a lot and it's like I feel like the 524 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: world is like it's kind of like soft, like you 525 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like it's moving to world a 526 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: lot of people is just entitled but sensitive, like they 527 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: can't take nothing. And I ain't saying nothing about nobody. 528 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: But it's like, if you know me or you watch me, 529 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: you will see that I don't ride with nobody, like 530 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: even in the league, bro, I don't rid rod none 531 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: of that because I know, ain't nobody about to fight. 532 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: Ain't nobody about to do none of that. You feel 533 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: me like, I ain't wasting my time, bro. So it's 534 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: like that that game they was Ryan it started with 535 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: his partners on the side, like and they're young boys 536 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: the nineteen twenty, Like everybody ain't with thirty something, you 537 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, and we're really from it, 538 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So when they start crossing 539 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: the line talking street stuff, talking money, oh you suck, 540 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: or this and this and that, all right, I'm about 541 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: to turn this motherfuck up, you know what I'm saying. 542 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 1: Because even my MoMA on the side like, yeah, you 543 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: know what to do. Turn it up, you know what 544 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And all I did was turned it up. 545 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: That's all I did. And then and then for me, 546 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: he went to the internet and said what he said, 547 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: but what was said, I didn't like because once you 548 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: show me, once you show me a certain way or 549 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,239 Speaker 1: who you are, then I ain't got time to be 550 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: trying to friend you again or none of that. Like, 551 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: I ain't got time for that. You crossed the line. 552 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: You crossed the line. I want you to stand on that. 553 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Obviously we who can get them, 554 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: you know, emotions get the best of us. But the 555 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: things I was said, it wasn't. It was like something 556 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: that being wanted to be said. You feel me. It 557 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: was personal, dog like and I don't bother nobody. I 558 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: saw all them love bro, you know what I'm saying, 559 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: all of them, love all of them. I want them 560 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,479 Speaker 1: to be better than me. That's how I really am. Bro. 561 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: You feel me. I want you to make more money 562 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: to me, I want you to have more success to 563 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: me because I know it's enough for all of us. 564 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: And I'm a good person at the end of the day. 565 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: You feel me, So with that, that's that. Man, it happened. 566 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: We don't talk. Me and him don't talk. You know 567 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: he still feel away. But for me, my phone is 568 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: always available. I'm always available because I know it ain't 569 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: really it ain't really nothing that's gonna come down to 570 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: meet him, meeting like this. I don't want to talk 571 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: on the phone, Bro, I don't want to be on 572 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: the internet. See me in real life, you know what 573 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean. Let's have a conversation. Because I love you. 574 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: I'll let you come to my open gyms. You want 575 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: to rebound for me as a kid, all that I 576 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: told you before them guys, you're gonna beat somebody. Use 577 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 1: the number one. Pick all my brothers. We was in 578 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 1: l A. I jumped out of my chair, getting the haircut, 579 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: getting tattoos, bro, screaming, you know what I mean. So 580 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: it's like I love that kid, bro, and I'm not 581 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: surprised at what he's doing right now, you know. But 582 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: it's like when that happened, I've seen the change and 583 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people, bro, Like I've seen a lot 584 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: of people, even from my city, they know they couldn't 585 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: throw no salt on my name because they know, you 586 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: know how I think I am and what I stand for, 587 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: and I'm never in drama. But when that happened, like 588 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: you start seeing true colors, like I start hearing all 589 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: types of stuff, bro, former pros, seeing people try to 590 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: pick a side, you know, side of the pick. We're 591 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: supposed to be together, you feel me, but you start 592 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: seeing the real you know what I mean. So that's 593 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: why I just, you know, I back up. But even 594 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: so I still watch his games. I support him. You 595 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: asked me who the rookie of the year him. Ain't 596 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: nothing changed with me, you know what I'm saying. But 597 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: it is what it is. Man. I think a lot 598 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: of them got mad because we we came and we 599 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: did we did and I had no pros. Bro, we 600 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: won the whole thing. I T had like seven pros. 601 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: We blew that. We blew them out. I'm telling you. 602 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: When I turned when I turned up that similar semi 603 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: finals game versus following them, I said, yeah, we're not 604 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: leaving Tacoma without the trophy. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 605 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: And we're gonna let y'all know. Like I'm getting calls 606 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: from prison, they're like, bro, why did you do that 607 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,239 Speaker 1: to I T? And you know what I mean, Like 608 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: it was there's more a statement like I was chilling, bro, 609 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: Like you know, because in the summer you want to 610 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: protect yourself, so you ain't really trying to go that hard. 611 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: You feel me, But it's like when I started feeling that. 612 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: You know, they started playing. They brought it out of me. 613 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: I'm looking at Mom, looking at the homies, they like, 614 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: turn up fault. This happened, and that's you know, the 615 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: University of Warston. You played one year and went to 616 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: the draft. How was your process um with going into 617 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: the draft from how many things did you work out? For? Bro? 618 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: I left. I was so in love with college, Bro, 619 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: I can imagine just to just to know, I win 620 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: sophomore of the senior year, really freshman, really all four 621 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 1: of my years, I really wasn't in class freshman year, 622 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: I was I was stugging, Bro, you know what I mean. 623 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: I was only going to practice. I was literally going 624 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: to practice. And it was back to the block. I 625 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: was back in the track of my brothers. Like I 626 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: swear that That's exactly what my life for was. My 627 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: environment was so sophomore, junior, senior year, I start branching 628 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: out and start being a gym like I said, with 629 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: my my, my, my great aunt. Then I'm going to 630 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: All American camps. Now I'm getting ranked, Now I'm getting letters. 631 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: Now I'm this. I'm like, I'm doing the right thing. 632 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: So I go to you Dub I didn't get accepted 633 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: right away, so I told coach Romar, like, Romar, if 634 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: I don't get accepted, it's over. I ain't doing the 635 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: Juico none of that. Like it's over. I get accepted, 636 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: like probably like a month after I arrived on campus, 637 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: Romar called me, he's crying. Then I just started crying 638 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: because it's like that was the last thing. I'm like, Bro, 639 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: I know I'm a person. If I stand on something, 640 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stand on this since a kid. That's just 641 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: how I was raised. And I knew if I didn't 642 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: get accepted, I wasn't doing no more basketball dude, bro, 643 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: great dude, Like I love him to death, bro. And 644 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: when I got accepted, it was on the popping because 645 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: now it's like, okay, I'm mapping it all out. I 646 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: wasn't thinking about the league because I know, like I'm 647 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: about to lock in. I got everything I need around me, 648 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: from the weights to the trainers everything, so it is 649 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,479 Speaker 1: going for me to just show up and go do 650 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: your thing. But for me, it's like, damn, I'm about 651 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: to enjoy college. Now. I'm about to enjoy being in 652 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: class again. Like I ain't even classes eighth grade with students. 653 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's four years that I 654 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: was around no students. So when I get to college, 655 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm tripping three people in one class. You know what 656 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm like, bro, what this is? I made it? 657 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm telling I'm calling home, like even though homes thirty 658 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: forty minutes away, but I'm like, bro, I made it, Bro, 659 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: I made it, you know what I mean. And then 660 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: just being around all of that, and uh, you know, 661 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: obviously I locked in. I said I'm gonna go to 662 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: like three or four parties in the beginning because you know, 663 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: football seasons early and then they start ending. When basketball starts, 664 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna go to like three or four parties. 665 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: Went to like three or four parties. After that, I'm like, 666 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: when the season starts, I'm locked in the gym, practice, 667 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: school games. That's it. Time go by. I ain't even 668 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,959 Speaker 1: think about the league. But I promise you, I'm just 669 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm high off life. I'm happy to be there, like 670 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying all of it. And now they just started. 671 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: I start hoping. I'm hoping, hoping I see one scout 672 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: next week, ten scouts next practice, twenty scouts because we 673 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: had marquees Chris too, he win number eight in our draft, 674 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this should becoming a reality, bro, Like 675 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: it's all right here. So I'm trying to stay focused. 676 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 1: You got in the newspaper, the news. You're going around campus. 677 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: Now I can't go, no classes, nothing, And it's just 678 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: like NBA. He's gonna go to the NBA. He's gonna leave, 679 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna leave money. This was never a thought, bro. 680 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: I thought I was about to go to school for 681 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: at least three or four years. And it comes to 682 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: a point where it's like January and I'm like, I'm 683 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: getting the information information and they're like, yeah, you're gonna 684 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: go top ten from former pros, all the agencies, You're 685 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: go on top ten. So when when I heard that, 686 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, obviously you want to win. But it's like 687 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: at that moment, my mom was house to house, you 688 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like hold till just my my 689 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: my whole family, like the cycle, the whole was all 690 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: messed up, you know what I'm saying. So for me, 691 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm thinking from my family. Even to this day, I 692 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: think from my people because I feel like God gave 693 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: me that blessing to where he put all the weight 694 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: on my shoulders to carry because you know I can 695 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: handle it, you know what I'm saying. So it's like 696 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: I told Romar in January, like yeah, Romar, I ain't 697 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: gonna tell the team because I don't want my teammates 698 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: to start feeling the type of way or you know, 699 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: any selfish any of that. So I'm like Roman, I 700 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna go. And from that point I stopped 701 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: going to school. It was just practice in Romar. You know, 702 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 1: he knew he we we had that relationship to where 703 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: I could go do that and tell him, you know 704 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: what I mean. And when we got to like what 705 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: I think March, we went to the n I t 706 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: we lost and after that I let I let my 707 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: teammates know all my brothers, like you know, I'm to 708 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: the league. But even then they're like dog go because 709 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: they knew my story. You know, they seen it, they 710 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: seen the pain, They've seen all of it. They see 711 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: my family, how deep they came. I had the whole family, 712 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: the whole hood that you do, you know what I'm saying, 713 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 1: Like it was so crazy. They used to the security 714 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: used to tell me like, man, tell your family to 715 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: chill out. They too tirt. They leaving at halftime, trying 716 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: to come back in, like you know what I'm saying, 717 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: you know, come over. So it's like when I get 718 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: to the point where I'm like, yeah, I'm out of here, 719 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: and then I chose the best. I wouldn't visit like 720 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,479 Speaker 1: three or four agencies. But Rich Paul was just too 721 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: He was too authentic for me, Like he felt like 722 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: he phraises, you know what I mean, before I even 723 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: knew his story, before I moved to Cleveland and understand, 724 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: you know where he's from, his block, his neighborhood, you 725 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: know his story. Like I just sensed that because you know, 726 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: real recognized real for real. We could see through real 727 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: fake all that. So it's like when I first met him, bro, 728 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: I was like you one of us. Bro, I'm like, 729 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: I ain't meet with nobody else. Like I'll be in 730 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 1: Cleveland in April ready to start my my draft process, 731 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: you know. So we get out there. Uh, moved to 732 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: Cleveland with my uncle's and we're there for like what 733 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: three months, and I worked out. I even go to Combine. 734 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: I worked out for seven six seven teams, all them 735 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: teams promised me. Majority of them, they all promised like 736 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: and they was like, don't go to Combine, Richard. I 737 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: don't think it's a good idea to go to combine, 738 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: just from the information he had and the thing about 739 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: me that bothers me to today and showed me the 740 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: business of it. But I cut throat this is like 741 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: I was honest with him. They went the information they 742 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 1: was going to get on me, the league. They went everywhere, 743 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: as you guys know, they went everywhere. They went to 744 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: middle schools, high schools, janitors, juveniles, you know what I'm saying, 745 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: Random people. I had so many random people come up 746 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: to me like, Yo, they came up to me. The 747 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: janitor at you doub when I made it and came 748 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: back to go work out. He like, they came and 749 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: they're asking me like did I did you ever disrespect 750 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: did he ever disrespect you? Was he mean? Was he 751 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: nice with what? You know what I mean? Like? So 752 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: that's when I started realizing that it's really federal. They 753 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: really investigated, you know what I'm saying. So when when 754 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: when I get the Cleveland stuff, you know, I work 755 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: out for them, teams, interviews always smooth. They always blown 756 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: away like yeah, he got the work ethic, he just 757 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: needed a chance, great person, and he was honest because 758 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: they're asking me obviously I ain't speaking on a lot, 759 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: but you asked me certain things like you know what 760 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all what y'all need to know, and you 761 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: don't need to know what you don't need to know. 762 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: But it's like I was honest with my upbringing, you 763 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I was honest about everything 764 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: they asked him out he wasn't juven Now at four times, Yes, 765 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: I was, you know what I mean, just honest about everything. 766 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: And I just remember the majority and them like are 767 00:37:54,800 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: we picking you? Whether it was nine Milwaukee, team, eleven, twelve, 768 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: all the way to four team. So we get to 769 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: the draft, Um, I brought everybody in New York. Dudes 770 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: ain't even been on the plane before they in New York. 771 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: So we're in my room. I'm getting dressed, and a 772 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: lot of weird things start happening, Bro, Like I'm getting 773 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: calls now, like yo, the FEDS is the FEDS is 774 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: looking at a lot of people, uh in his entourage. Bro, 775 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: this is what a team's calling. I ain't gonna say 776 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 1: their name with a team called like the fans just 777 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: looking at a bunch of people in his entourage like huh, 778 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: and a lot of weird other stuff start happening. So 779 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: now I'm looking at Rich like we ain't even got 780 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: to the table yet, you know what I'm saying, I 781 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: ain't even I'm still getting dressed, smiling, playing music, and 782 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: we we were getting ready to get to to the 783 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,439 Speaker 1: green room. And when we get to the green room, 784 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: now a lot of weird stuff start happening, bro, Like 785 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: a lot of teams start text and Rich like oh 786 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: his background, Oh he was in the game. All this 787 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: like the stuff I've seen. And somebody did some foul 788 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: some foul, foul business, bro. And like both of y'all 789 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: gonna be disappointed when I tell you off record, like 790 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: what they did? You feel me like they did some 791 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: foul business, Bro, that spread it? Rest in peace. Paul 792 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: Allen told him something spread it around the whole league, like, 793 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: and it wasn't something they already didn't know. It's just 794 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: like that person was like trying to stop me from 795 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: making it. I don't know if they seen me as 796 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: a threat, seeing me as whatever, but it was like, man, 797 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: we gotta slow this down, like nah, let's spread this around. 798 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And that ship hurt me 799 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: because I love that person. You feel me like I 800 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: love that person and that and that was my that 801 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: was my process. So I'm sitting at the table mont 802 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 1: you said, Antonio was they all came to Cleveland to 803 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: meet with me. San Antonio trying to trade up for me. 804 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: They had the twenty ninth pick, but knowing the information 805 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: that they had from all the teams, like, he's not 806 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: going past fifteen. So san Antonio told me, like in 807 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: the interview, like we we can't let you go nowhere else. 808 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: But san Antonio like, we gotta trade up to the 809 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: lottery to get you, Like we're about to do that. 810 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: So I'm in the green room. I'm like, I ain't 811 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: even I don't care about going a lottery, none of that. 812 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm I'm just bro. I'm about to share the commissioners in. Bro, 813 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm about to get in the dough, like you know 814 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, so I promise you, bro. Like 815 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: even people said I look mad at the draft, they 816 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: don't know. I was mad at text messages I was 817 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: seeing that was spreading around the league. You know what 818 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's what I was mad about. But do 819 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: you not know that the hope that I gave my city, 820 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 1: my neighborhood, my family, my brothers in prison. I got 821 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: people that I talked to in prison to this day, 822 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and they get to see 823 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: that Bro, like BRO made it, I can get out 824 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: of prison, you know what I'm saying. My family's like 825 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 1: BRO made it. My mom like my son made it. 826 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: No excuses. I could go be whatever I want to be, 827 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because they know I come 828 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 1: from exactly where they come from. So it's like that process, Bro, 829 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: it was. It was a blessing. Like at the end 830 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: of the day, first round twenty nine, and I didn't 831 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: know a lot about it, Like me going the difference 832 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,240 Speaker 1: from me going what twelve the twenty nine was money 833 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: that if you work hard, stay two yourself, be a 834 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: good person, you're gonna make that money. You're gonna make 835 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: it back. And then you know what I'm saying. So 836 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: that was the only difference. Obviously, you got the hype 837 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: that come with it, the politics that come with being 838 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: a top ten pick or late first round, second undrafted, 839 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: you know, what I'm saying. So for me, I was 840 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: in the dough so I shook the commissioners and you 841 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: gotta think this wasn't a video game. This was real life, 842 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, and the rest was history. Bro. 843 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 1: What's your first impression of the Spurs when you get there, 844 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: because you know when Pap told me he wanted to 845 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: sign me the person that you told me. Look, I 846 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: know you smoke weed, We're gonna sign you, but you 847 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,879 Speaker 1: can't smoke weedin' you know me? Sure smoke ever again 848 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: in life, smoke couple. I was laughing, right, But they 849 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: know everything about you before you even set foot in there. 850 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 1: Your first impression when you got to San Antonio. My 851 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: first impression, bro, I just was like, first of all, 852 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: the Spurs was ella boring to me growing up Like 853 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: Santonio is a leading city for obesity for women in Texas. 854 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: Let me throw that out there. You get that there 855 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: all they do is eat and don't work out. And 856 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: my barber you know about that for the tone, you know, 857 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,959 Speaker 1: you know, hey, But when I mean when I mean boring, 858 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: it's like when I was growing up and they was winning, 859 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: Like you know how we play like we were like 860 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: a I you know what I'm saying. Oh, like it 861 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: was past cut screen away, Like I was like, I 862 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: don't want watch bro like they're born, you know what 863 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: I mean. But greatness don't never get a twisted I 864 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 1: will never get a twisted greatness that for Shure, for Shure, 865 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 1: none of that ship swing swing and look and none 866 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: of that. And that's why I said when I was 867 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: your watching, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You know 868 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So first impression on I get there. 869 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 1: Obviously I know my history. So one thing about me, 870 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 1: I always like fr meet somebody or you know. Obviously 871 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: the NBA. I love basketball, I love studying it. So 872 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I knew they were different. There 873 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: was always a team that was never loud, you know, 874 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: all that, not flashy. So even me, I'm like, damn, 875 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: the way I play, even though I play the right way, 876 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, I still got some ship to me, Like damn, 877 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: want to send Antonio all right, I'm about to take 878 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 1: advantage of it. So I go. It's like a roller coaster. 879 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's a roller coaster. Bro. 880 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: Obviously I know I'm not about to play right away. 881 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 1: Like our starting lineup was Tony, Danny, Kauai, the Marcus 882 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: Audress pas Bro I'm not about to play Like what 883 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 1: by they go wave towels, You need some gatorade, you 884 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So for me, Pop didn't even 885 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,439 Speaker 1: like he didn't even talk to me when I first 886 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: got there, I'm tripping. I'm like, Mono didn't talk to me, 887 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: popped and talk to me, t P didn't talk to me. 888 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, damn, he's he's motherfucker's like me, 889 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: like they liked me or what they don't like me? 890 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 1: Like what's going on? You know what I'm saying. So 891 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, I ain't triving. I'm rocking with Kauai, Danny Green, 892 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 1: we had Jonathan Simmons. He's from Houston, solid, real one, 893 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 1: you know, Kyle Anderson. So I'm like, I'm rocking with him, 894 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm rocking with my guys. 895 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: And as times start going, I made an impression like 896 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm about to locks it up. I'm about to play defense, 897 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: get every rebound, every loose ball, everything, And because you know, 898 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: we don't practice a lot. We don't practice because we're 899 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: on the court in San Antonio is about playing D. 900 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: Playing D. We don't practice, So I'm like, I gotta 901 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 1: utilize because these guys is older, Like you know what 902 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: I mean. So when I get my chance, it's training 903 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: camp and now you just gotta hope somebody rests that 904 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 1: getting the game or you know, obviously you never want 905 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: to see nobody hurt, but you get hurting an opportunity 906 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 1: to the next person, next man up, you know. So 907 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: for me, Bro, the the impression was really different. It 908 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: was like something I've never been around, what I'm saying, like, 909 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: and it was a roller coach from I used to 910 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 1: go home, man, I had my uncle living with me 911 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: and I used to go home mad. Bro just from 912 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: not understanding like where we come from. You won't understand 913 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: what they're putting you through, you know what I'm saying, 914 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: Like I didn't understand nothing, Like like they'll throw me 915 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 1: in the fire. Then they'll make me. Uh They're like 916 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: you're not I'll come to the arena. They're like, you're 917 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: not dressing up today. I don't even got a sports jacket. 918 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: They're trying to give me a big as sports jacket, 919 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: Like now you could wear power gasaw sports jacket. Like, 920 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 1: So for me, I'm like, there's a lot being thrown 921 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: at me, bro, and I'm like, man, I don't like this, Bro. 922 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 1: Then I'm going home. I'm telling Unk like Unk's older, 923 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 1: he's just enjoying it, like he having fun. You know, 924 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 1: his nephew made it and he out there with me. 925 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm going home like, Man, I'm busting Tony's ass in practice, 926 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,879 Speaker 1: I'm busting Patty Millers as in practice, I'm locking them up, 927 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm like, damn, like, gave 928 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 1: me five minutes, give me seven minutes. Like then they 929 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 1: sent me to the G League. And as time start 930 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 1: going bro like, they bring in point guard from Argentina. 931 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: That's close with Manu playing in front of me and 932 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: my yamba. So I'm behind Tony Patty. But they're playing 933 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: these mind games. They're trying to see if they could 934 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 1: break me, not knowing you can't break yourself. They want 935 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 1: you to break yourself, you know what I'm saying. And 936 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: they're doing that though I'm at home tripping um punched holes, 937 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,760 Speaker 1: you know what i mean, Right Ryan, my uncle's venting, 938 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: you know. But a lot of just more start they 939 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: playing other guys that was second round picks undrafted in 940 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: front of me. Now, I'm just like, bro, what's going on. 941 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm hitting rich, I'm hitting Rich. I'm like, bro, I 942 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: gotta get traded. He's like, you ain't got no value 943 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 1: you feel me. I'm like, man, bro, this is too much. Bro. 944 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, what if they put me through? Bro, I 945 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: don't understand. I start hearing your name, Steve jack went 946 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,879 Speaker 1: through a lot of BS. Obviously we know you got 947 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 1: you cold, so you ain't gotta tell me come on, 948 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 1: And it's like a lot of people like I start 949 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: building relationships, like you know, my barber from there seven 950 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 1: because I used to go on that same shot. You 951 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. So like 952 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 1: I started building relationships with, you know, people from there, 953 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: not a lot like he really don't like you know what. 954 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: He's solid, you know, and brought him alone with me 955 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 1: today because he's solid, you know what I'm saying. But 956 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 1: like even him, like he brought up you. He's like, man, 957 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: Steve Jackson, your mind, Steven Jackson is uncle. All of them. 958 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 1: They like your mind me, Steve jack like he was 959 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 1: going through the same you know, venting mad And now 960 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: it's like people don't realize, Bro, I went through so much. 961 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,800 Speaker 1: They're like, I was there six years, you know what 962 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying that he 963 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 1: was that either it doesn't, but it's like I feel like, 964 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: really like and they know I feel this way. I 965 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,919 Speaker 1: feel like they really like they drafted me. But they 966 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,839 Speaker 1: feel like the stuff that was going around the air 967 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,439 Speaker 1: of me coming from the hood and not out of diet, 968 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 1: that I was gonna make it and entourage thirty people smoking, 969 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 1: drinking and articles about fighting just ruining their reputation of 970 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 1: what they stand for as a Spurs. You know, I 971 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 1: think that's what they thought, but they never said that, 972 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just from the stuff I 973 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: had to go through, Like and when they seem like 974 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: he needs a chance, and this motherfucker be in the gym, 975 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 1: Like they start having to kick me out the gym, 976 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,360 Speaker 1: Like when they said you got access twenty four hours 977 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: every day, knowing I wasn't playing, so I'm like lash up, 978 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 1: like we to the gym, Jim, you know what I mean? 979 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 1: That was just every day and obviously I started growing 980 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,359 Speaker 1: first year go by, you know, throwing in the fire 981 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 1: in the playoffs versus the Rockets. Then my second year, 982 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: they see I come back obviously getting stronger, getting better, 983 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: and the hours the year I took the job from 984 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 1: Tony popping about this in the office. You know what 985 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 1: I mean, he told Tony Tony ain't like it. I 986 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: know he ain't like it. You know he ain't. You 987 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,319 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like for me, I love real, 988 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 1: like keep it a buck when you keep it a hunter, Bro, 989 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna love you for that, you know 990 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 1: what I mean? And I know he didn't like it. 991 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 1: You feel me because if he liked it, he would 992 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 1: have mentored me the way he should have a right, 993 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 1: he wouldn't have went to Charlotte. He would have stayed 994 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,319 Speaker 1: right there. You know what I'm saying. And that's me. 995 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna get the real just how y'all, all the 996 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,359 Speaker 1: small y'all, Yeah, the real You didn't see It's not 997 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,919 Speaker 1: funny he say that, bro, because I know the type 998 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,320 Speaker 1: of person Tony is. You know what I'm saying, great player, 999 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 1: gonna go down the Hall of fame. But he's very selfish. 1000 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: He's been selfish. We would have had more championships and 1001 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: more success if it wasn't for him being so selfish. 1002 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,799 Speaker 1: But he was told at the sixteen seventy year old 1003 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 1: in France that he was this. He come to the 1004 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 1: NBA started as a as a nineteen year old, and 1005 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:55,919 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But he had a rude 1006 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 1: awaken him because once we got to the playoffs, it 1007 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 1: was Stephon Marbury, it was Jason Kidd. He couldn't handle them, 1008 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 1: so we had to pay Speedy Claxton. So I know 1009 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 1: the real Tony. You know, he can fool everybody else, 1010 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,919 Speaker 1: but he is one of the most selfish players I've 1011 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: ever played with. And I'm just they ain't got nothing 1012 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 1: to do with what he's saying, is what I'm saying. 1013 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 1: He's one of the most selfish players I've ever played with, 1014 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 1: bro because it's all about him. And I don't know 1015 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: how he made it in that system so long, you 1016 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because that's a system for everybody 1017 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: that that they want they want everybody to Yeah, it's 1018 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 1: everybody shot. At the same time, I don't know how 1019 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,280 Speaker 1: he waited that long, because you nobody was totally different 1020 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 1: as far as the teammate that's definitely one of the 1021 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 1: best teammates. I love my life, I love mother, you 1022 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it was like to PIF 1023 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 1: for my second year of taking that job. Pop told us, 1024 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 1: So now it's like I see everything. I observe. I'll 1025 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 1: watch everything, like even now, like I watch there would 1026 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 1: be I'll watch a game and I won't even look 1027 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 1: at the May dunk the May three. I look at 1028 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 1: the bench to see who's clapping, who's sitting there looking mad, 1029 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 1: Like that's the type of stuff I look at because 1030 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 1: I want to see, like, you're a team guy. You 1031 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 1: wanted you know what I'm saying. Not for real, bro. Like, 1032 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 1: so it's like my second year, now I'm doing this. 1033 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 1: I make all defensive team younger since Kobe rest in 1034 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:15,320 Speaker 1: piece to Kobe. Uh Now it's like it's on the poppet. 1035 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 1: So now I'm like I got a taste of it. 1036 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,319 Speaker 1: Like now I'm starting I get to go into the 1037 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 1: summer healthy. I know I'm coming back starting at looking 1038 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 1: over his shoulder, ain't looking over my shoulder. So now 1039 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,399 Speaker 1: I'm about to go to your three. I get hurt, 1040 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,439 Speaker 1: come back get her preseason and that was the year, 1041 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:38,359 Speaker 1: like every scout, every coach that was here, we got 1042 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: that was here, we got. The more we had, the 1043 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,280 Speaker 1: more they'll all tell you who looked like the best player. 1044 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: Training camp I came back with like, yeah, yeah, I 1045 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 1: ain't here to step on no toes, none of that, 1046 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 1: but I'm here to be me. And now I got 1047 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,799 Speaker 1: that confidence. And you guys know when you get that 1048 00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,320 Speaker 1: confidence in this league's over. It's over. Now feel like 1049 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 1: I got it, Like I'm like, yeah, I got it, 1050 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 1: because now they're calling people. I got people back home 1051 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,280 Speaker 1: calling that I even though I knew this certain person 1052 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: in the organization, Like you know, they say you look 1053 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,680 Speaker 1: like a monster. And training camp they say you look 1054 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: like a monster. You made a statement. So now it's like, yeah, 1055 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm ready get hurt. Damn one thing I could say 1056 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 1: about them. They see me in the gym eleven months straight, 1057 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 1: six days a week, and they did reward me, you 1058 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like it's it's it's 1059 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,359 Speaker 1: if he is, it's this is that. But it's like 1060 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 1: I could always love him for that, appreciated them for that. 1061 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 1: It ain't about the money. But it's like, bro, you know, 1062 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 1: you get hurt, like you know what I mean. So 1063 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 1: it's like you go on to year four, on back playing, 1064 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 1: year five and back playing, but now they got they 1065 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,439 Speaker 1: drafting people. They really got me competing, Like they really 1066 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 1: got me competing with Derek White because now they draft 1067 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,360 Speaker 1: Derek White and he played well in the playoffs the 1068 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 1: year I was hurt. So now they're like, damn, should 1069 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 1: we make Derek the point guard or de jonte? You know? 1070 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,360 Speaker 1: But they can't just say that because now they paid 1071 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 1: me that summer, you know, and he was only what 1072 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 1: his his first year or whatever second year. But they 1073 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:23,520 Speaker 1: really got us competing. And I feel like I love Pop, 1074 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 1: but it's like I feel like he cited with Derek 1075 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 1: more than me because I wasn't yes man, not saying 1076 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 1: Derek's none of that, you know what I'm saying. I 1077 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 1: love dere great teammate. We talked to this day and 1078 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: we'll get later. We'll get down to that later. But 1079 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 1: it's like I feel like he sided with him because 1080 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 1: you couldn't play with me like pop, you know, Pop, 1081 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 1: Like you couldn't rob rob with me and be disrespectful, 1082 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 1: like if I didn't really do nothing. Now if I 1083 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: like did something wrong, stop turning them up, sucking ball 1084 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: over your teammate was open. I'm cool with that, but 1085 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 1: getting personal, like you can't play with me like that 1086 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 1: because I'm a man at the end of the day, bro, 1087 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,719 Speaker 1: you know. And then I got a daughter like I'm 1088 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 1: more so I almost had to get a coach in 1089 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 1: l A for that. I got traded as soon as 1090 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,399 Speaker 1: the trade deadline happened twelve o two. I was out 1091 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,360 Speaker 1: of there because you could talk ship to me Yellow 1092 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 1: be here for bad player, but don't disrespect me as 1093 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 1: a man play because are you gonna do that outside 1094 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,239 Speaker 1: of these cameras, these facilities. Any situation Pop put you in, 1095 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: he know how you're gonna respond. Before he put you 1096 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 1: in that situation. He did it to me. He asked 1097 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 1: me to say that Jenoble and Danny Green was better 1098 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 1: than me, right for the playoffs started, because he knew 1099 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna blow up. But you know, I walked, 1100 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,360 Speaker 1: I went off on and walked up as I'm before 1101 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 1: he even asked me that Tracey McGrady, yeah, he hadn't 1102 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 1: had the same day before he even asked me, so 1103 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 1: he knew what he was doing and he knew I 1104 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 1: was gonna respond like that. So Papa is very smart, 1105 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But they do it hardor 1106 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,359 Speaker 1: and expect the worst from certain players, like when they 1107 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 1: get guys like us on their team. But in all actuality, 1108 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,720 Speaker 1: the ownership has been in the meeting and the media 1109 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: and the news for more ship than any player that's 1110 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:11,880 Speaker 1: ever played there. You need that Kauai is a teammate. 1111 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 1: We don't get to see much of that. He had 1112 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 1: him as a young fella. He was a vet to 1113 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,400 Speaker 1: you speak to what Kauai is like as I just 1114 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 1: off the court, cool locker room dude, and a mentor 1115 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:26,279 Speaker 1: to you, man, Kauaii dope. And the thing I love 1116 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,960 Speaker 1: about him is like when you when you're comfortable on 1117 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 1: your own skin, you're gonna get way more love like 1118 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 1: facts then you even expect, you know what I'm saying. 1119 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,319 Speaker 1: And for Kauai, he's like, Bro, I want to be 1120 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 1: on the internet. Bro, I don't want to be in 1121 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 1: the media, Like I don't want to live my life. 1122 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 1: I want to hoop. I want to hoop that motherfucker 1123 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,400 Speaker 1: be in the gym, like you know what I'm saying. 1124 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,080 Speaker 1: So it's like he's like, I don't want to hoop 1125 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,400 Speaker 1: being my family, my boys like that ship, but I 1126 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 1: don't want to hoop, you know what I mean. So 1127 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 1: for Kauai, it was like he's really part of the 1128 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,319 Speaker 1: reason why, Like I made that defensive team my second year. 1129 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 1: Like he came to me, he's like, bro, don't worry 1130 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,360 Speaker 1: about trying to get fifteen twenty points. He's like, go 1131 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: make the all defensive team. He told me that you're 1132 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 1: too training camp. He's like, gonna make the all defensive team. 1133 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,920 Speaker 1: I guarantee you if you make that. Now you get 1134 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 1: on the court. Like you said, defense get you on 1135 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 1: the court, especially in San Antonio. San Antonio, So he's like, 1136 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 1: gonna make that defensive team. Now you stamp yourself. He 1137 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 1: could play d So now they gotta have you on 1138 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 1: on the on the floor. So if you're on the floor, 1139 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 1: your guy's gonna have to be able to play offense too, 1140 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like I took that, 1141 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,439 Speaker 1: and I just other than that, I took watching him 1142 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 1: show up every day off days, game days, practices, before 1143 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 1: all of that, putting in work thirty minutes, the sharpened 1144 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 1: over there, getting right after we practice back on the court, 1145 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 1: like that's all he wanted to do. That's all he 1146 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 1: wanted to do. So for me, I'm like, damn, like 1147 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 1: this motherfucker finals MVP. I already won the finals. D's 1148 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 1: a player to your all star, you know, made money 1149 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,560 Speaker 1: all that, like, but he's in the gym like he 1150 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 1: don't got none of that, Like he's trying to please 1151 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 1: these dudes, like to make it, to make the team 1152 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 1: sothing Like, bro, I got no excuse. Bro, I already 1153 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 1: loved a game though, Like I don't need that to 1154 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 1: like motivate me. But that just put in a whole 1155 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 1: different perspective for me, Like yeah, like you know what 1156 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You see it, And that's that's That's what 1157 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 1: it was with him. We talked to this day. We 1158 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 1: laughed about all the type of ship, joke about all 1159 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,920 Speaker 1: the type of ship, and made the worst of conference finals. 1160 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 1: As soon as Pop saying say Jack hold up after practice, 1161 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 1: got to get him out of there. You go get him. 1162 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 1: So I mean, obviously you you you told us your 1163 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 1: upbringing the upstar down, the juvenile detention centers, the dead homies, 1164 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 1: the homies in prison. Two thousand nineteen, you sign a 1165 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 1: sixty four million dollar contract ch chain. To me, that's 1166 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 1: just the beginning because you're gonna get the hundred plus 1167 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 1: next up. But what did that mean to you? Knowing 1168 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,840 Speaker 1: what you've been through up to that point? Man, when 1169 00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 1: you come from, when you come from just the struggle, 1170 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 1: when you come from the hood. Man, they say money 1171 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,880 Speaker 1: don't mean nothing, but Bro, that should means something. That 1172 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,040 Speaker 1: should mean a lot where I come from. You know 1173 00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, y'all can relate, bro, like you feel me? 1174 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 1: Like I remember eating top running four months straight. I'm 1175 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,120 Speaker 1: putting it and putting hot dogs in the one days 1176 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,320 Speaker 1: in it the next day, all the different meals around 1177 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 1: the noodles. They don't know nothing about that, you know 1178 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They don't know Like we're really competing 1179 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 1: in the house who make the best noodles? Drinking the beef. Man, 1180 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 1: we had every con shrimp, beef, chicken, you know what 1181 00:59:55,000 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying, but chicken out. But but for me, Bro, 1182 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 1: it was like it was like, damn, this ship is 1183 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 1: really like I'm still like tripping out where I'm at. 1184 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 1: It's not like I keep continue to say I say this. 1185 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Everybody around me, no money, fame, success, It don't mean 1186 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 1: nothing to me. Bro. It can't move me to make 1187 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: me feel like I'm better than you. I'm better than you. 1188 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,920 Speaker 1: We all equal, you know what I'm saying. Obviously something 1189 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 1: got more than others. That's life, bro, you know what 1190 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But for me, when I signed the deal, 1191 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 1: it was like when the process is going, I had 1192 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 1: my brothers with me because that was a year I 1193 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 1: was rehabbing, So I had a couple of my brothers 1194 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:44,160 Speaker 1: with me and just always engaged in my family everybody, 1195 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 1: and I think just when it happened, it shocked everybody, 1196 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because, like I said, everybody 1197 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,440 Speaker 1: know where I come from, what I did, like what 1198 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 1: I had to do for money, Like so it's like, 1199 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 1: damn illegal, Damn he did that, Like you feel me Like, 1200 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,320 Speaker 1: So for me, it's like I get to take care 1201 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 1: of my people and take care of my people as 1202 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm returned and growing. It's always not hunt here's a 1203 01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 1: hundred thousand years, fifty's ten thousand, it's not always that, 1204 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, putting them in ruins with 1205 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 1: certain people being able for them to call me if 1206 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,600 Speaker 1: they got questions if I don't know the answer, We're 1207 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 1: gonna go get the answer, you know what I'm saying. Like, 1208 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 1: so for me, it was it just was a blessing, 1209 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 1: bro like it Obviously it made our life better, you 1210 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 1: feel me. It made our life better, not just me. 1211 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,120 Speaker 1: It made our life better knowing that at the end 1212 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: of the day, we got each other. But God put 1213 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,600 Speaker 1: me in this situation. I got us because I know 1214 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 1: how to handle it. Though, yeah, I know how to 1215 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 1: handle it. So it's like, you know, you see dudes 1216 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 1: go broke, Dudes blow money, Like I was dealing with 1217 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 1: money in the hood, so I know how to deal 1218 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 1: with money. Obviously, not know millions, you know what I'm saying, 1219 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 1: But I know I deal with money. Bro you feel me, 1220 01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 1: We was playing with that, you know what I mean. 1221 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,560 Speaker 1: So it's like this is just another level. But when 1222 01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,080 Speaker 1: you know the bigger picture and me, I love basketball, 1223 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,480 Speaker 1: So it's like knowing that all this come to basketball, 1224 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,640 Speaker 1: it only turned me up even more. It made me 1225 01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 1: more hungry. Like what's snakes, Go get more, you know 1226 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,600 Speaker 1: what I mean, Go go get big, you know all that. 1227 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 1: So it's like, at the end of the day, I 1228 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,000 Speaker 1: believe in God, thank for him, grateful, but I also 1229 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,120 Speaker 1: like I believe that it was written, bro, Like I 1230 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 1: believe it was written because I watched everybody. I watched 1231 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 1: all my people's We ain't had nobody successful just to 1232 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,080 Speaker 1: go to college, bro, you feel me, Like like he 1233 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 1: was really excited when he was explaining your one year, 1234 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 1: Like I made it that that was dope, dope. So 1235 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, signing that it was it was 1236 01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 1: a blessing, bro. You know, and then obviously start learning 1237 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,479 Speaker 1: more on the business side now, you know, learn about 1238 01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 1: the investments all that stuff. So you know, now it's 1239 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:57,080 Speaker 1: just for me, Bro, It's like, continue to be a 1240 01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,640 Speaker 1: great person, but continue to work and get your all 1241 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 1: out of it, Like, don't be that guy, Like damn, 1242 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 1: I wish I would have did this. I would have 1243 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 1: did that when I retired, you feel me. So I'm 1244 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 1: trying to get everything out of it. I'm a hunter 1245 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 1: and Tim Percon invested in New Balance. What was that process? 1246 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:20,280 Speaker 1: Like the how has it been? Man? That's the reason 1247 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,760 Speaker 1: why I with them, Like obviously you know, like we 1248 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,959 Speaker 1: we all grew up Jordan, we want James, we want Jay, 1249 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 1: we want we want the max is the forces. Like 1250 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,280 Speaker 1: so it was like I was with Nike my first 1251 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 1: first three years and then obviously that year three I 1252 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 1: got hurt and Nike they offered me something but nothing. 1253 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 1: You all know how they get down if you're not 1254 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 1: one of the guys. You feel me New Balance, New Balance, 1255 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,680 Speaker 1: Like I was with Nike and they was talking to 1256 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 1: Risk like, man, we we like him. We don't know 1257 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 1: his story, but the things we hear and what we 1258 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,360 Speaker 1: see how you carry himself, Like we want that because 1259 01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,040 Speaker 1: at the point that he's got Kauai, they just got 1260 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 1: Kauai and obviously you know kau my dog. Like, so 1261 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 1: I'm talking to him through that process like you Rock Balance. 1262 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 1: They cooled out of that, like I'm not worrying about 1263 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,480 Speaker 1: oh how I'm gonna look, but I gotta swag, you 1264 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm gonna put it together. And 1265 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 1: you feel me. So it's like yeah, yeah, And you 1266 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,320 Speaker 1: know a lot of people are gonna be like, man, 1267 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,480 Speaker 1: that ship uglier this or that, Like no, I ain't 1268 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,240 Speaker 1: wearing that, Like we're gonna figure it out. You feel me, 1269 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 1: so New Balance. I'm loyal, bro. They was loyal to 1270 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,120 Speaker 1: me and they weren't even paying me a dollar or 1271 01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:33,120 Speaker 1: sending me no merch like they was loyal. They were 1272 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 1: showing me that they wanted me. Why I was hurt. 1273 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,440 Speaker 1: They're like, we want you to represent our brain, like 1274 01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,000 Speaker 1: we want you to be a big part of it 1275 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 1: like Kauai and for me, like just the way they 1276 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,479 Speaker 1: was reaching out, reaching out, reaching out, didn't start sending gear, 1277 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 1: sending gear like told risk like, Bro, I want a 1278 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,320 Speaker 1: little new balance. Bro. You know what I'm saying. I 1279 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,080 Speaker 1: want to be different. I don't want to follow no 1280 01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,440 Speaker 1: trends and never been the guy to follow no trends, 1281 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,080 Speaker 1: no ways. I'm We're gonna turn new Balance up. I 1282 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 1: signed a new Balance, the whole city and new balance, 1283 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,160 Speaker 1: the whole hood and new balance. You feel me, my 1284 01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,840 Speaker 1: whole family, New Balance. Now I'm seeing people everywhere I go. 1285 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 1: I see new Balance, you know what I'm saying. So 1286 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,240 Speaker 1: it's like at the end of the day, Bro, they 1287 01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 1: got some dope ship special Yeah, they got some dope ship, 1288 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 1: but they also got some like the designers that they 1289 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,600 Speaker 1: got came from Nike, Adidas, all the mothers, you know, 1290 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 1: brands and just putting it together. You know what I mean. 1291 01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 1: First time All Star. What did that mean to you? Unbelievable? 1292 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,880 Speaker 1: I know that felt great, Bro, it was. It was unbelievable, Bro, 1293 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,720 Speaker 1: even though, like I feel like because I think we 1294 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,240 Speaker 1: was in like the ninth place, ninth place, I believe, 1295 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,320 Speaker 1: so I feel like I should have got voted in 1296 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,760 Speaker 1: like when it happened, and I didn't get like voted in. 1297 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,880 Speaker 1: Like I was at the house, like my family hot. 1298 01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,960 Speaker 1: You already know how their households get like they hot 1299 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,400 Speaker 1: because they announcing, you know, So my family, they all 1300 01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 1: came out to San Antonio and we all I just 1301 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,400 Speaker 1: got back. I just got back home, and I just remember, 1302 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,560 Speaker 1: like they didn't call my name, has nothing, nothing, not 1303 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,360 Speaker 1: the reserves. I didn't call my name. Bro. I was hot. 1304 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,400 Speaker 1: I was hot. My family was hot. Like I see 1305 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,600 Speaker 1: I see my brother's crying like they're hot, like you know, 1306 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,760 Speaker 1: like they're trying to figure it out. I'm like, bro, 1307 01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,840 Speaker 1: it ain't nothing. You know, we're gonna we're gonna get there, 1308 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 1: like because God got us. You feeling me, but he 1309 01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,680 Speaker 1: got me, like I work hard, great person. So it's 1310 01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 1: like it's bound to happen, Bro, sooner or later. Thinks. 1311 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,240 Speaker 1: A couple of days go by, obviously had guys hurt. 1312 01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,479 Speaker 1: I go to the gym, and you know, how Pop 1313 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,480 Speaker 1: is Pop smart? He already know I'm in. They vote, 1314 01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,560 Speaker 1: they got me in, Adam Silver put me in. But 1315 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,760 Speaker 1: it's I have no clue. I'm just going to practice, 1316 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:56,680 Speaker 1: go to practice. After I'll leave Pops. I have a 1317 01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,920 Speaker 1: great day. Out of that, I head home, the families 1318 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:04,760 Speaker 1: there there, and he just, uh, he just randomly called 1319 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,760 Speaker 1: me like can you uh can you come back to 1320 01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:11,480 Speaker 1: the facility. I'm like for what, Like I'm gonna see 1321 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,600 Speaker 1: you tomorrow, Like what you need me for? Real? Silly 1322 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,760 Speaker 1: for He's like, man, just coming facility. I get to 1323 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,080 Speaker 1: the facility, I go solo. As soon as I walk 1324 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:24,920 Speaker 1: in the door, like congratulations all star, Bro, It's like 1325 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, wait a minute. What Then obviously 1326 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,200 Speaker 1: it start blowing up the phone, the text message, the cars, 1327 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 1: all that. I start breaking down crying, Bro, Bro, I 1328 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,040 Speaker 1: start breaking down crying, Bro, Like I'm like this this 1329 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:45,280 Speaker 1: ship crazy. Bro, Like, no, this ain't true, bro Star, 1330 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,480 Speaker 1: it ain't true. Bro, you know what I mean? So 1331 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,080 Speaker 1: I go home. Obviously I hug all them guys. I 1332 01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,600 Speaker 1: hug all of them, the staff, everybody, coaches, everybody, front office, 1333 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 1: and as soon as I get home, bro, the whole 1334 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 1: family crying. Bro the old already knew or you told, 1335 01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,120 Speaker 1: they already knew because it started getting out. They just 1336 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 1: knew I was leaving to go to gymeral quick. So 1337 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 1: I walked in the door. I walk in my house. 1338 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,760 Speaker 1: Everybody crying, bro Like, but it's like tears of joy, 1339 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,840 Speaker 1: Like that motherfucker used to be in the rain at 1340 01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,759 Speaker 1: five years old by himself. I was in the snow 1341 01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,800 Speaker 1: by myself, no backboard, just the rim. I was in 1342 01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,439 Speaker 1: the house getting the laundry, you know what I'm saying, 1343 01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:29,200 Speaker 1: all that, getting the hangers, you know what I mean, 1344 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,880 Speaker 1: and all that, and they that's what you've seen, like 1345 01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,280 Speaker 1: and from all my family, and I think what really 1346 01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 1: made it hit different is we lost my sister not 1347 01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:44,120 Speaker 1: too long from that. My sister was killed like months 1348 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:48,560 Speaker 1: before that, and our family was kind of in a 1349 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, like a head down, like sad man like 1350 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,519 Speaker 1: just a revenge mode, you know what I'm saying, Like 1351 01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:56,080 Speaker 1: because she was killed, you know what I mean, by 1352 01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 1: her boyfriend. So it's like brought some positive, some positive 1353 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,400 Speaker 1: to to the family again. They're like reborn this, you 1354 01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:08,559 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And it just was it was unbelievable, bro, Like, 1355 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,840 Speaker 1: even still like I still feel like I ain't did 1356 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 1: none of it. I still want to get better. I 1357 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,800 Speaker 1: still want my coaches people to criticize me, to get better, 1358 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,320 Speaker 1: to be better, like so I can make it again, 1359 01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,280 Speaker 1: make it again, you know. But it's like it's a blessing, Bro, 1360 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:28,719 Speaker 1: you're able to do that. Like obviously basketball sports team, 1361 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,479 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, obviously we play basketball, 1362 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,960 Speaker 1: so it's a team game. You can't win without the team. 1363 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,080 Speaker 1: But you got your individual things. You feel me it's 1364 01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,280 Speaker 1: top playing in the league that year. You know what 1365 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's unbelievable. That's unbelievable. Bro. If you don't unbelievable, 1366 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,200 Speaker 1: that's unbelievable. So it's like that will never go over 1367 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,559 Speaker 1: my head, you know, forever gonna be be be thankful 1368 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,599 Speaker 1: for that, bro. And for me, it's like get back. 1369 01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:55,479 Speaker 1: You get back. You know you don't want to be 1370 01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,800 Speaker 1: no one hit wonder. I gotta get back, very humble, 1371 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:03,280 Speaker 1: grounded family basketball. Outside of everything you told us so far, 1372 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,280 Speaker 1: who are you off the court? What do you like 1373 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,519 Speaker 1: to do? I mean, obviously fatherhood is big for you, 1374 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:08,840 Speaker 1: But what do you like to do just in your 1375 01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:15,160 Speaker 1: spare time? Bro? For me, I like bowling, bowling. I 1376 01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,920 Speaker 1: love bowler. I love bowling. It'd be nice. I'll be like, 1377 01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:24,000 Speaker 1: let's go bowling. Really way, you know, let's go bowling. 1378 01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,760 Speaker 1: It's rarely go bowling because for me, it's like I 1379 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 1: grew up in parties, brows and clubs. At thirteen, I 1380 01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,400 Speaker 1: was in one over clubs thirteen fourteen years old, you 1381 01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,479 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like to make it 1382 01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,040 Speaker 1: to where I'm at now, I have no interest in that. 1383 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,519 Speaker 1: Like a lot of these dudes, like older dudes, young dudes, 1384 01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,800 Speaker 1: it's new to them. They just now being able to 1385 01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:50,320 Speaker 1: get a taste of it. I was already doing that, 1386 01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I was already dealing with 1387 01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,000 Speaker 1: a woman. I was already know what I'm saying. I 1388 01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:58,439 Speaker 1: was already in clubs everything. You have money, cars, everything, bro. 1389 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,400 Speaker 1: So it's like, now I'm at this point in my life, 1390 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:06,080 Speaker 1: it's like it's just basketball for me. But also because 1391 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,760 Speaker 1: I already did so much in the early stage, I 1392 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,080 Speaker 1: have no interest to do things that are already done, 1393 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,639 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So a lot of people, 1394 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,640 Speaker 1: like my brothers, even when I was in San Antonio, 1395 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,439 Speaker 1: they used to tell them guys like man, get him 1396 01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,560 Speaker 1: out the gym, like, tell him to go take a vacation, 1397 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,000 Speaker 1: tell him to go, I don't know, do something else, 1398 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,280 Speaker 1: get basketball off of his mind. But it's like if 1399 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,880 Speaker 1: you ain't grow up like me, you know what I mean, 1400 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,960 Speaker 1: Like you can't relate to me, like you don't understand 1401 01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,479 Speaker 1: why I'm at where I'm at. And also I know 1402 01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:41,240 Speaker 1: how I was jugs in that draft from the things 1403 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,519 Speaker 1: that I did when I was around as a kid, 1404 01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,320 Speaker 1: and I don't want that to be the reason that 1405 01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, they boot me about it here, and I 1406 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,519 Speaker 1: feel like my chances knowing they know my story, I 1407 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,400 Speaker 1: feel like my chances ain't like don't a lot of 1408 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I only got one. Soon as I 1409 01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:01,840 Speaker 1: make that one its curtains, it's Ober back, Seattle or 1410 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:05,599 Speaker 1: wherever you're going, you know what I'm saying. So for me, like, Bro, 1411 01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,880 Speaker 1: it's really fatherhood, my family. I like bowling, but I 1412 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,600 Speaker 1: really be inside, Bro, Like I really be inside and 1413 01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,200 Speaker 1: I have fun doing it though, And I try to tell, 1414 01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,479 Speaker 1: like my brothers, even dudes, I mean to leave, Bro, 1415 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,600 Speaker 1: I try to tell because they in my teammates from you. 1416 01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,719 Speaker 1: One of san Antonio the year seven. Now in Atlanta, 1417 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,280 Speaker 1: they see our own party. Bron't drink, I don't smoke, 1418 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:29,720 Speaker 1: and they see that and they're like, bro, why Like 1419 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,479 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, go have fun? You 1420 01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 1: are you know what I'm saying. But I'm having fun. 1421 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,280 Speaker 1: And I try to tell them, like, don't let me 1422 01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:41,280 Speaker 1: affect what you do. Gona be good regardless. But I'm 1423 01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,160 Speaker 1: comfortable who I am. I have fun sitting at home 1424 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:48,519 Speaker 1: watching six games at a time with my daughter, my family, 1425 01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,960 Speaker 1: my girl, on FaceTime with my family, you know what 1426 01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,360 Speaker 1: I mean. Like I have fun doing that, answering prison 1427 01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:55,680 Speaker 1: cars over and over, chopping up with them. That's my 1428 01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,679 Speaker 1: life right now. When I'm done, like I'll probably start 1429 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,040 Speaker 1: doing more, but right now, I just know I feel 1430 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,760 Speaker 1: like it's it's it's messed up. That is this way 1431 01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,160 Speaker 1: that I gotta think like this, But it's like I 1432 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,519 Speaker 1: feel like I go to the club or something, You're 1433 01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,679 Speaker 1: not about to play with me, you know what I'm saying. 1434 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,479 Speaker 1: So it's like I put myself in that situation, bro, 1435 01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,479 Speaker 1: that position. Why I could just be at home, bro, 1436 01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:20,960 Speaker 1: Because they've done a lot of they're doing a lot 1437 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,240 Speaker 1: of playing outside they're doing a lot of playing, you 1438 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,280 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And we don't play like that. 1439 01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,479 Speaker 1: It's hard to stay out the way. It's hard to 1440 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,559 Speaker 1: stay out the way, bro, you know what I'm saying. 1441 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,840 Speaker 1: So it's like for me, I'm just focused. I know 1442 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,800 Speaker 1: what I want. You know what I mean. But also, 1443 01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:36,920 Speaker 1: like I said, I don't I don't want to be 1444 01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:42,280 Speaker 1: on the headlines for no negativity. I work too hard, bro, 1445 01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,439 Speaker 1: And I know you take away me. You take away 1446 01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,240 Speaker 1: a lot of village. Bro. Yeah, you feel me. You 1447 01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:52,360 Speaker 1: take away of village a lot of people. You feel me. 1448 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,800 Speaker 1: So it's like, I'm cool, Bro, I like chilling. I 1449 01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:57,920 Speaker 1: really be with the kids for real. That that that 1450 01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,640 Speaker 1: that that says a lot about you and how important 1451 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,960 Speaker 1: your family and your villages to you. Because a lot 1452 01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,320 Speaker 1: of people can be selfish. I want to do this, 1453 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:08,640 Speaker 1: It's my life. I want to do this and not 1454 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:10,680 Speaker 1: care about the people that's depending on them, you know 1455 01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. With a lot of people like that. 1456 01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:16,400 Speaker 1: For sure, you spoke to richest loyalty and in the 1457 01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,000 Speaker 1: relationship you've built with him, Um, have you been able 1458 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,639 Speaker 1: to build a relationship with Broun knowing that that's obviously 1459 01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,160 Speaker 1: family as well. Man, I talked to him all the time. 1460 01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:31,000 Speaker 1: For me, I just he I mean, like we talk 1461 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,600 Speaker 1: who But more so like knowing that that was my 1462 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,920 Speaker 1: favorite player growing up, Like Bron was my favorite because 1463 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:39,719 Speaker 1: I love to play the game that way. Like obviously 1464 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:43,360 Speaker 1: I grew up watching Ai Kobe, them dudes is like 1465 01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to bucket, yeah, funk all that, I'm going 1466 01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:51,200 Speaker 1: to get buckets. But with Bron braun is doing everything. 1467 01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,200 Speaker 1: That's why you look up. You look up after game. 1468 01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:57,120 Speaker 1: It's like you got thirty one nine teen, Like he 1469 01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,840 Speaker 1: did everything, you know what I'm saying. So that was 1470 01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,280 Speaker 1: favorite player from when he first got to the league. 1471 01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,519 Speaker 1: When the first year rookie year, I remember that. I'm like, 1472 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,360 Speaker 1: that's my favorite player. He played the game the right 1473 01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,400 Speaker 1: way and obviously he was special. He's still special, you 1474 01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:14,800 Speaker 1: feel me. So it was like he invited me to 1475 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:18,760 Speaker 1: his camp. I think I was what sixteen seventeen, right 1476 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,200 Speaker 1: when I started blowing up. I think I became like 1477 01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:22,920 Speaker 1: a top thirty recruit at the time. So now I'm 1478 01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,519 Speaker 1: going to all the All American camps and he invited 1479 01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,160 Speaker 1: me to It was like twenty players and I was 1480 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,200 Speaker 1: one of the guys to go and then we're on 1481 01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,599 Speaker 1: the team with each other. And obviously you know, Mall 1482 01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 1: told him about me and all that, and uh, we 1483 01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,800 Speaker 1: was able to have conversations at his camp and then 1484 01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,439 Speaker 1: obviously I signed with Rich and Clutch and that just 1485 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:46,160 Speaker 1: made us tighter. And it's like now, Bro, like I 1486 01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,280 Speaker 1: know his love is genuine, Like when I go around him, 1487 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,519 Speaker 1: like you could that hug that you know, I love 1488 01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:53,280 Speaker 1: you a little, Bro, but more he'd be checking on 1489 01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,719 Speaker 1: me too though, like happy Holidays and you know, seeing 1490 01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,599 Speaker 1: them play with my daughter like all the kids everything 1491 01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:03,439 Speaker 1: like and just to know that to have a great 1492 01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,880 Speaker 1: person like that, not just basketball, Like look what he's doing. 1493 01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:10,400 Speaker 1: He's a great person, but Louie's doing off the floor. Like, like, 1494 01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:15,320 Speaker 1: Bro got a school. He has a school. I think 1495 01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:19,080 Speaker 1: that's the biggest flex more than anything else. He has 1496 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,600 Speaker 1: a school. And that ain't easy either, that ain't you 1497 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,280 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, especially being African American, Bro, it 1498 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,320 Speaker 1: ain't easy. So for me, like when I tell you 1499 01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:31,200 Speaker 1: the money to fame and all that, championships, like I 1500 01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,400 Speaker 1: look at him as like, Bro, he has a school, 1501 01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,680 Speaker 1: because that's something that like I would want to do 1502 01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:37,960 Speaker 1: because that speak who you are as a person and 1503 01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,439 Speaker 1: what you really care about, you know what I mean? 1504 01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:44,439 Speaker 1: So the relationships, dope, bro Uh he's a great one. Bro. 1505 01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,519 Speaker 1: What's one player that's musty TV for you right now 1506 01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:50,880 Speaker 1: when you're watching games at home? One player? Now, y'all 1507 01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:56,560 Speaker 1: know who that joy. He's crazy, He's crazy, He's crazy. 1508 01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:00,639 Speaker 1: He is bro here, motherfucker, he's musty too, for sure. 1509 01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,760 Speaker 1: I love it. I know you. I knew I was 1510 01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,439 Speaker 1: gonna be everybody. If it ain't, I don't know who 1511 01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:10,160 Speaker 1: it is you watching what you're watching? What player bring 1512 01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:17,639 Speaker 1: the best out you? I think I feel like everybody 1513 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,800 Speaker 1: went because now I'm getting in that and you got 1514 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,280 Speaker 1: you got that? So you want to kill everybody. It's 1515 01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,960 Speaker 1: that attitude. But like even now, like being in Atlanta, Bro, 1516 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,599 Speaker 1: I'm still trying to figure out. Like you know, it's 1517 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:31,200 Speaker 1: a it's a new role, it's a new situation, it's 1518 01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,760 Speaker 1: a new team. So now I'm like I'm trying to 1519 01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,000 Speaker 1: figure it out, like you know what I'm saying. But 1520 01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,400 Speaker 1: for me, it's like I want to destroy everybody. I 1521 01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,559 Speaker 1: want to take the ball from you, number one. So 1522 01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,840 Speaker 1: you better call that screen. You know what I'm saying, 1523 01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,880 Speaker 1: like that's just my mentality, like I want to get 1524 01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,160 Speaker 1: the best of you on both ends, but more so 1525 01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,920 Speaker 1: is everybody because like I said, you want to play 1526 01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,760 Speaker 1: the best, Bro, you don't. You don't want uneasy, you 1527 01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,240 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So every night like you got dudes? 1528 01:17:56,320 --> 01:18:01,320 Speaker 1: The league so crazy? Now? Who look at Houston? Yeah, 1529 01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:05,880 Speaker 1: Kevin and they could both get thirty years. The record 1530 01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,880 Speaker 1: ain't ship, but they could play. That's what I'm saying. 1531 01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,760 Speaker 1: But all they need is some veterans. And you know that, right, 1532 01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,560 Speaker 1: y'all know what they need, Jabari. They just need the 1533 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,080 Speaker 1: right But I'll be trying to tell people because a 1534 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,120 Speaker 1: lot of people like you lose the you lose one 1535 01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:23,400 Speaker 1: of them younger teams, that's you know, not mature, got 1536 01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,639 Speaker 1: that experience, like Bro, the league is at that, it's 1537 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,040 Speaker 1: that talented. You could lose to a team that got 1538 01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,479 Speaker 1: eleven wins or the team like Boston with thirty wins. 1539 01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,080 Speaker 1: You could lose any given night night and the ain't know. 1540 01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:36,840 Speaker 1: The ain't know you're about to blow these guys out 1541 01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,120 Speaker 1: by thirty forty and the bench about to be able 1542 01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,640 Speaker 1: to play the last three four minutes. They didn't like 1543 01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,200 Speaker 1: that no more, bro, you know what I mean. So 1544 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,800 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I love I love playing against everybody, man, 1545 01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,680 Speaker 1: I love I love watching the game, and just love 1546 01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 1: compete with the best. We were kind of in the 1547 01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,680 Speaker 1: area where we started the two way player because we 1548 01:18:55,800 --> 01:19:02,800 Speaker 1: was guys that put so much pride in playing defense. Um, 1549 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,280 Speaker 1: we talked about you getting it from San Antonio, But 1550 01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,360 Speaker 1: then again I would say the same thing. But one 1551 01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,559 Speaker 1: thing I can't give them credit for is I cared 1552 01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:15,800 Speaker 1: about stopping the man that I'm guarding. That's not no 1553 01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,200 Speaker 1: credit to them for that. And it's not a lot 1554 01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,519 Speaker 1: of that in the league right now. What is it 1555 01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,720 Speaker 1: in you that makes you take pride and defense because 1556 01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:27,160 Speaker 1: it's a scoring league right now, they want buckets, pride 1557 01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,719 Speaker 1: and defense? What what is that in you that's making 1558 01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:31,559 Speaker 1: you different than a lot of guys in league right now? 1559 01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,479 Speaker 1: Growing up playing with the older guys, being five years old, 1560 01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:41,320 Speaker 1: playing with my uncle's fifteen, seventeen, eighteen, and we're playing one. 1561 01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,679 Speaker 1: The only way you get the balls, you get a stop. 1562 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,280 Speaker 1: Take the ball. You better get a stop, you better 1563 01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,360 Speaker 1: get a rebuild. I'm five years old, bro, Yeah, five 1564 01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,160 Speaker 1: years old. These dudes is about to be eighteen years old. 1565 01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:58,360 Speaker 1: I used to get frustrated, like because it was times 1566 01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,800 Speaker 1: I didn't get the ball and I used to get 1567 01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:04,120 Speaker 1: so mad, like I gotta figure this out, you know 1568 01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:05,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that's where it comes for me, 1569 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,240 Speaker 1: like playing with my uncles and then obviously start branching 1570 01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,920 Speaker 1: out to the neighborhoods and start playing, you know, in 1571 01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:16,040 Speaker 1: the neighborhood. Now it's like I'm not getting embarrassed one 1572 01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But damn shot, No, there's 1573 01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:21,240 Speaker 1: only one way for me to get the ball, and 1574 01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:24,040 Speaker 1: that's to stop you. So it's a pride thing, but 1575 01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,679 Speaker 1: it's a hard thing, dog like, you know, like something. 1576 01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,519 Speaker 1: Dudes just don't care. They weren't taught that. They all 1577 01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:33,920 Speaker 1: they think offenses the end goal or whatever defense wins 1578 01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:37,280 Speaker 1: championships games or ivery want to put it, you know 1579 01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that's that's that's where it comes 1580 01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,880 Speaker 1: from me. I credit all my uncles and all their friends. Bro. 1581 01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,720 Speaker 1: Like they didn't get me nothing easy. They made it 1582 01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:47,880 Speaker 1: hard on me from day one. When they seen that 1583 01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:50,240 Speaker 1: I was having the ball in my hand at one 1584 01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:54,719 Speaker 1: two years old, They're like, okay, yeah, I was slapping 1585 01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:58,360 Speaker 1: out your hands. Yeah, so that's where that comes from. 1586 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,880 Speaker 1: Last season, you had to string a tweet praising the chef, 1587 01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:06,360 Speaker 1: saying he's top ten. Ever, I mean, I can't disagree 1588 01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,280 Speaker 1: with you, but to talk about that by STEP's greatness, 1589 01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:14,040 Speaker 1: he different, Bro, totally let me say his Bro. I 1590 01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,840 Speaker 1: was there when they drafted him. Jack didn't believe in Stef. 1591 01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,439 Speaker 1: I was there, Bro. I'm similar to how you was 1592 01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:24,200 Speaker 1: in same time. My mom, I'm damn the thirty thirty 1593 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:28,040 Speaker 1: something I don't want. But I did not know Steff. 1594 01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying every time I get I'm sorry, but I 1595 01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:33,880 Speaker 1: had no idea who you was gonna be. Bro, no idea, Bro. 1596 01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,200 Speaker 1: But you know, it's so crazy. When I seen him 1597 01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,360 Speaker 1: play that run he had at Davidson the last year 1598 01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,840 Speaker 1: before he left to the league, Bro, it was like 1599 01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,719 Speaker 1: I remember, like we could be going to get food 1600 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,200 Speaker 1: or we could be just going somewhere. I'm like, I 1601 01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:53,599 Speaker 1: gotta get to a TV. I gotta watch this dude 1602 01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:58,479 Speaker 1: from Davidson play. That's how crazy. That's how crazy it was. 1603 01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,400 Speaker 1: And when I've seen that, I'm like, Bro, he could 1604 01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,760 Speaker 1: shoot Bro. I'm like, this dude if he gets to 1605 01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,240 Speaker 1: the lead because I think he was in the time 1606 01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:10,040 Speaker 1: where like I wasn't into the mock drafts or I 1607 01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,439 Speaker 1: didn't know nothing about that. I'm like, I just know, like, 1608 01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:16,200 Speaker 1: get yeah, we get to the league though, Like it 1609 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,439 Speaker 1: ain't easy, bro, but they'd be having you know, the 1610 01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:20,880 Speaker 1: guys they hype up, and they were hyping him up. 1611 01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,360 Speaker 1: I feel like, but obviously he made to put him 1612 01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,120 Speaker 1: on nottice And I'm like, Bro, that dude get to 1613 01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:29,760 Speaker 1: the league and get opportunity, he's gonna go crazy. I 1614 01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,400 Speaker 1: didn't say he was gonna be this. Nobody knew that. 1615 01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,160 Speaker 1: I didn't say none of this. I just seem the 1616 01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:37,439 Speaker 1: way he shot the basketball off the dribble, you know 1617 01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,280 Speaker 1: what I mean, all pinned downs like catch and shoot. 1618 01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:43,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, that dude's gonna be somebody. So it's like 1619 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:47,240 Speaker 1: now bro, just seeing it, like you gotta credit his 1620 01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,320 Speaker 1: his hard work, his dedication, bro, Like you know what 1621 01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:53,479 Speaker 1: I mean, Like when I hear about his workouts, like 1622 01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:57,400 Speaker 1: hearing stories from people, like there's no joke. He is 1623 01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:00,640 Speaker 1: who he is for a reason, God blessed him. But 1624 01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:03,000 Speaker 1: he got that hard work working, you know what I mean, 1625 01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,960 Speaker 1: that dedication, that focus, that dry like bro, I gotta 1626 01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,160 Speaker 1: keep going until I'm just done, you know what I mean? 1627 01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,719 Speaker 1: So for me, Bro, he's I mean with what he got, 1628 01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,080 Speaker 1: he got it. I don't know what else you gotta do. 1629 01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:19,400 Speaker 1: That mother got it. And he changed the game though, 1630 01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,439 Speaker 1: like changed. I feel like when you changed the game, 1631 01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:26,800 Speaker 1: not too many guys could say they did handful handful changed. 1632 01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,559 Speaker 1: He changed the game, changed it on all levels. You know. 1633 01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:31,400 Speaker 1: Obviously I coached my kids at are younger that they 1634 01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:32,960 Speaker 1: come in as soon as they put their shoes and 1635 01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,719 Speaker 1: they start shooting from half court. I'm like, what about 1636 01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,320 Speaker 1: just shot something? Nah? Dad, na Dad? Like that. He 1637 01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,400 Speaker 1: changed the game for real, you know what I'm saying, 1638 01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:46,920 Speaker 1: Like I remember the shooting fadeaway Kobe. Now it's Steph 1639 01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,639 Speaker 1: shoot him half Like you said, he changed the game. 1640 01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:53,120 Speaker 1: Not just men's, women's too, change everything. He changed the game. 1641 01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:57,120 Speaker 1: He did absolutely you know, quick hitters coming down the 1642 01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,800 Speaker 1: home stretch. First thing to come to your mind. Let 1643 01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:05,640 Speaker 1: us know three artists in your pregame rotation. Three artists, bro, Uh, 1644 01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,519 Speaker 1: I really listened to what I could relate to. I 1645 01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,360 Speaker 1: don't care about your personal life. You make good music. 1646 01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,320 Speaker 1: You make good music, but I don't know you as 1647 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,800 Speaker 1: a person. You feel me. So if I could relate 1648 01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:17,599 Speaker 1: to it and then give me chills from some ship 1649 01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,400 Speaker 1: at seen did been through? Like that's what in my 1650 01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:23,120 Speaker 1: playlofts with some substance. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 1651 01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:25,320 Speaker 1: Let me make an example that. But the ones Dirk, 1652 01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:30,000 Speaker 1: Dirk's the one. He's the one, Bromm, He's the one. 1653 01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,439 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, that's your jamming constant. He's 1654 01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:36,000 Speaker 1: the one. Bro. I feel it like you give me chills, Bro, 1655 01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:40,439 Speaker 1: you feel me? Yeah, give me chills. That's that's probably 1656 01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:47,320 Speaker 1: scared face for me. Scarfriend, Mama's Tupac Tupac can't Top five, 1657 01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:54,960 Speaker 1: top five man, Man, Man, it's funny. I'm excited to 1658 01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:56,880 Speaker 1: hear your list because we just had Charles Parker's list 1659 01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,840 Speaker 1: and it was good, but it was it was he's older. 1660 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,000 Speaker 1: It was a dope list. Three of them got to 1661 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:06,559 Speaker 1: come up out of three of his list. They got 1662 01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,960 Speaker 1: to come up out of there, man, three of his list. 1663 01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,840 Speaker 1: Three people on his list, they had eight teams when 1664 01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:19,320 Speaker 1: they was playing on his ship. Yeah, I can't go. 1665 01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:21,800 Speaker 1: I can't go back that far. I don't need to. 1666 01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:27,800 Speaker 1: I can't go cook Man and don't gotta be like 1667 01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:36,519 Speaker 1: order guard, No, just give man, Brian, m J. Kobe shack. 1668 01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:46,439 Speaker 1: I'm throwing tim in there. Bro, that's my five. I 1669 01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,240 Speaker 1: have magic and send it him. But that's my father, 1670 01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:50,519 Speaker 1: that's my five. We got the same five. That's so, 1671 01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:54,120 Speaker 1: it's so, it's so. It's with that order, Bron m J. 1672 01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,680 Speaker 1: Cole For you, that's your top three? Yea, no, you 1673 01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,559 Speaker 1: you didn't ask for I'm asking you. I'm asking my 1674 01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:04,639 Speaker 1: order at you want to do the order? Just those three? 1675 01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,559 Speaker 1: Who are who's your order? Who are those guys in 1676 01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,160 Speaker 1: your order? They don't I don't care if they're one, 1677 01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,080 Speaker 1: two or three in the world in those three were 1678 01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:17,360 Speaker 1: Who's one? Who's two? Who's three? Bron M J. Kobe Okay, yeah, 1679 01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:24,320 Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, I'm obviously around m J. Cole Brown. That's good. 1680 01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:29,040 Speaker 1: He was a killer. You bucket them three? Them three? Yeah. Um, 1681 01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:33,599 Speaker 1: one show or movie you could watch and repeat Martin easy, 1682 01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:37,960 Speaker 1: come on man, come on man, Yeah to three in 1683 01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:50,920 Speaker 1: the morning, you know yea yeah, little rodscope that's crazy, 1684 01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:57,240 Speaker 1: that's crazy. Yeah, oh man. Any course that game there 1685 01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,880 Speaker 1: we watching the past? Which one would it be selling? 1686 01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:04,600 Speaker 1: Any game you could be courtside to games in the past. 1687 01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:13,400 Speaker 1: MJ era, Cobe era early Brian Stephid, Davidson, M Man. 1688 01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,320 Speaker 1: Any game I could be, it will have to be 1689 01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:22,200 Speaker 1: Jordan bro. It will have to be I think the 1690 01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:26,599 Speaker 1: game versus you tak Flag, the Flu game and that 1691 01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:29,320 Speaker 1: one All sixty three in Boston. They lost that game 1692 01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:32,360 Speaker 1: the rookie year, right. Yeah. And the reason why I 1693 01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:36,040 Speaker 1: say MJ because and it hurts me, Bro that I 1694 01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:39,360 Speaker 1: didn't get to meet Kobe bro Like, and he invited 1695 01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:42,800 Speaker 1: me to his little Top twenty of young up and 1696 01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,360 Speaker 1: coming players before he passed to come to his camp. 1697 01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:47,280 Speaker 1: That was when the first time I met him, because 1698 01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:50,680 Speaker 1: he retired when I got to the league, and that 1699 01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:52,880 Speaker 1: really hurt me, bro Like, you know what I mean, 1700 01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,600 Speaker 1: his mentality, the way he carried himself, the way he 1701 01:27:55,680 --> 01:28:00,439 Speaker 1: played the game, like that was somebody that because I'm 1702 01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:02,640 Speaker 1: not big on all, I want to meet people like 1703 01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:04,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If I meet you, I 1704 01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:05,960 Speaker 1: meet you, you know what I mean. And I respect 1705 01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:08,880 Speaker 1: my elders, Bro, So you don't gotta be the best 1706 01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:10,400 Speaker 1: player in the world. You could be on the side 1707 01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,040 Speaker 1: of the road. You're my elder. You feel me, I'm 1708 01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:15,400 Speaker 1: gonna respect you. But it's like Kobe with somebody that 1709 01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:18,519 Speaker 1: like I had to meet bro, you know what I mean, 1710 01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,519 Speaker 1: So like knowing what happened like that hurts me, you 1711 01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,360 Speaker 1: feel me. But I got to see Kobe play. I 1712 01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:27,519 Speaker 1: got to see Braun play. I'm playing against Broun now, 1713 01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,280 Speaker 1: m J. I didn't get to see play. So it's 1714 01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,280 Speaker 1: like all you hear is the old heads. They're like 1715 01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:38,080 Speaker 1: brin yo number one man, you're tripping. You're tripping and 1716 01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,960 Speaker 1: they say it passionate though you feel me and it's 1717 01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,000 Speaker 1: like I wanted to see it in person, and that's 1718 01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:45,720 Speaker 1: why I said that game. You should have seen us 1719 01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,960 Speaker 1: when we was going to interview Kobe. We were like 1720 01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,479 Speaker 1: two kids going and I was my teammates, like, well 1721 01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:52,280 Speaker 1: that with his teammates. I've seen him all the time, 1722 01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,360 Speaker 1: but it was still just that aura about him and 1723 01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,920 Speaker 1: the way he carried himself in the way you felt 1724 01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,000 Speaker 1: like you've learned something when you're just having a regular conversation, 1725 01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:01,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He sat us in his 1726 01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,040 Speaker 1: office before we started the interview, was you know, I 1727 01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:06,760 Speaker 1: don't want to be known for my last twenty years. 1728 01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, n you code what you mean. It's like 1729 01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:09,639 Speaker 1: now I want to be known for what I'm about 1730 01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:11,080 Speaker 1: to do and look at this and I'm writing this 1731 01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,400 Speaker 1: book and then that. So it's just that mentality just 1732 01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,800 Speaker 1: he applied it to all aspects of his life. So 1733 01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:17,519 Speaker 1: it was it was special to see that was my 1734 01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:19,720 Speaker 1: classmate and I was in awe every time I talked 1735 01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:21,920 Speaker 1: to him seeing them, I was just like like, this 1736 01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:27,559 Speaker 1: is this nigga real? So I get it, man, And 1737 01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,080 Speaker 1: I think that's what's crazy though, Like knowing like you 1738 01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:33,160 Speaker 1: just said, Bro, like you Kobe, like you can't you 1739 01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:35,639 Speaker 1: feel me? But to know that like he didn't get 1740 01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,360 Speaker 1: to do like we give our all the basketball, especially 1741 01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:41,040 Speaker 1: him everything that he gave his all. Bro, he was 1742 01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,320 Speaker 1: away from his family more than you know what I mean. Like, 1743 01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,840 Speaker 1: so to see him to start branching the you know, 1744 01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:50,880 Speaker 1: being with his daughters. You know she want to hoop 1745 01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:53,840 Speaker 1: for real, Okay, I'm about to coach you like and 1746 01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:57,280 Speaker 1: like you just said, doing other things like the fact 1747 01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,360 Speaker 1: he can't get to do that, Like that's the type 1748 01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:03,960 Speaker 1: of stuff that that that messed with me. Man. Five 1749 01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:07,559 Speaker 1: dinner gainst that are alive? Five dinner guess huh uh? 1750 01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:11,040 Speaker 1: Like I said, Brown really be caring to meet people. 1751 01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:20,800 Speaker 1: But jay Z m J H. Should you gotta put 1752 01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:26,759 Speaker 1: code on there, Kobe Ye. Yeah, Kobe already had one bronze, 1753 01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:28,519 Speaker 1: so he can't go on this. He can't come to 1754 01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,000 Speaker 1: this one. He can't come to this one. Uh West, 1755 01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:37,799 Speaker 1: I said, jay Z m J. Kobe Ai, I'm tripping Ai. 1756 01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:39,479 Speaker 1: You get a chance to meet him. I met him 1757 01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:43,479 Speaker 1: so three times, Bro, put put put somebody in your 1758 01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:47,280 Speaker 1: list for your fifth that's somebody that you admire, that's 1759 01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,320 Speaker 1: daydn't gone, that you would like to get to know, 1760 01:30:50,400 --> 01:31:00,920 Speaker 1: that I get to know. Uh mm hmm. Yeah, that's 1761 01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:04,960 Speaker 1: a tough one. There's so many people, Bro, that's a 1762 01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:12,120 Speaker 1: tough one. Mm hmm. I don't know. That was hard. 1763 01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:18,479 Speaker 1: Always said for me to meet Marcus Garfin because of 1764 01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:20,280 Speaker 1: what he was, you know what I'm saying. He was 1765 01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:23,200 Speaker 1: one of the first black men to start teaching financial literacy, 1766 01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:26,519 Speaker 1: financial financial literacy and teach people how to give bank 1767 01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,240 Speaker 1: accounts and involved with banks and try to get black 1768 01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:30,960 Speaker 1: people to start their own banks and stuff like that. 1769 01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:33,400 Speaker 1: So that's somebody. That's what I mean to give you example, 1770 01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:36,040 Speaker 1: somebody like that. I've always wanted to meet Marcus Garfin. 1771 01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:43,200 Speaker 1: I think starting to obviously young gage like always wondering, like, bro, 1772 01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:46,960 Speaker 1: why is there Martin Luther King everywhere in every hood, 1773 01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:50,680 Speaker 1: like every you know, like Black Area, Like, so I'll 1774 01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:52,679 Speaker 1: probably say Martin Luther King. You know, I'm not saying 1775 01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,800 Speaker 1: that because the m l K days here. But when 1776 01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:57,400 Speaker 1: I say, it's a lot of people that I could 1777 01:31:57,400 --> 01:31:59,280 Speaker 1: have put in that fists, a lot of people because 1778 01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:02,000 Speaker 1: even though it's full, were like those people. I want 1779 01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,800 Speaker 1: to learn from Meyer, learn from you what I'm saying 1780 01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:08,559 Speaker 1: good bad, but just to take it away from sports 1781 01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,439 Speaker 1: Marla the King, just to understand that, you know, his 1782 01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:14,599 Speaker 1: message can't go wrong with that, you know what I mean? 1783 01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:16,880 Speaker 1: So I said, yeah, they definitely went wrong with that 1784 01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:19,120 Speaker 1: new statue we got in Boston homes and I just 1785 01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:23,519 Speaker 1: see it's crazy. Um, if you can see one guests 1786 01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:30,160 Speaker 1: one out of you kind of if you can have 1787 01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,280 Speaker 1: one guest on all the Smoke, who would it be? 1788 01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:36,040 Speaker 1: But before you answer, you have to help us get 1789 01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:39,720 Speaker 1: your answer on this show. So gotta be someone you 1790 01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:45,559 Speaker 1: talked to, like a quiet Brandon Roy, like, just don't 1791 01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:47,880 Speaker 1: sake whoever you want to see if you gotta out 1792 01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:52,000 Speaker 1: them up. Yeah, y'all, y'all had the more yet yea 1793 01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,200 Speaker 1: brother yeah, Hey, that might be doing Hey, I don't 1794 01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:00,400 Speaker 1: rock with a lot of NBA players. He ain't an 1795 01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:03,840 Speaker 1: NBA player, to ask my brother. I love like death. 1796 01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:07,080 Speaker 1: Everybody swear the guy. We don't work. I don't want 1797 01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,880 Speaker 1: to hang out, work out nobody, No disrespect to you. 1798 01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:14,840 Speaker 1: It's all loves marks my brother. Okay, y'all have him. 1799 01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:22,280 Speaker 1: Uh man, we're waiting on the claw. We're gonna get 1800 01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:24,760 Speaker 1: the cloth. Me and you both can work on that. 1801 01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:28,040 Speaker 1: Now we're getting the car. Now that's done. Deal. Yeah, 1802 01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:30,639 Speaker 1: we're gonna work on the claw. Sooner we're done today, 1803 01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm calling him. Yeah, we need it. I ain't rocking 1804 01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,400 Speaker 1: with you, clau. Y'all get on all the smoke, man, 1805 01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:38,559 Speaker 1: because I don't do Hey, I don't do interviews. When 1806 01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:45,160 Speaker 1: when they said y'all call you know, y'all know hen 1807 01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:47,720 Speaker 1: so like I want y'all to know, like, I appreciate 1808 01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:50,599 Speaker 1: y'all what you stand for. You feel me message y'all 1809 01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:53,160 Speaker 1: putting out. You know what I'm saying, Like y'all trying 1810 01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,519 Speaker 1: to make a change, bro, But y'all doing it the 1811 01:33:55,640 --> 01:34:00,400 Speaker 1: authentic way. Ain't nothing fake about it. I watch everyone everyone. 1812 01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:02,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The legendary bro. You've been 1813 01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:05,400 Speaker 1: told me that. I mean, I'll watch everyone. But I 1814 01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:08,599 Speaker 1: appreciate your time from a standpoint of obviously during season, 1815 01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:10,960 Speaker 1: during season first and foremost, but just getting this and 1816 01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:12,840 Speaker 1: like you said, you don't talk to very many people. 1817 01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:15,640 Speaker 1: So for for your fans, for our fans to get 1818 01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:17,400 Speaker 1: an in depth understanding of who you are as a 1819 01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,519 Speaker 1: man like suck the basketball side, Like we get to 1820 01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:21,320 Speaker 1: see you every night. We're blessed to see you every night, 1821 01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:23,479 Speaker 1: but to see your moral's, your principles, your values, but 1822 01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:25,960 Speaker 1: you stand for how important family is, how important being 1823 01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:27,960 Speaker 1: a father is. Like that kind of ship is dope 1824 01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:30,800 Speaker 1: to me because we wouldn't get that conversation. We went 1825 01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:32,760 Speaker 1: to dinner, you know, like we got to get in 1826 01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:35,680 Speaker 1: depth in and dig into it. So again, man, we 1827 01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:38,280 Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Like Jack said, especially during the season. 1828 01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:40,519 Speaker 1: We got some ship for you over here. We got 1829 01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:44,439 Speaker 1: some merch for you. Merch for sure, all the Smoke 1830 01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:46,080 Speaker 1: Dot Store. And if you want to look as fresh 1831 01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:47,800 Speaker 1: as us guys up here on the stage, you have 1832 01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:49,479 Speaker 1: to go to all the Smoke Got Store and get 1833 01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:53,479 Speaker 1: your gear. I'll the Smoke Dot Store. Man. Man, we 1834 01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:56,439 Speaker 1: appreciate you that's a rap. De gen s Murray. All 1835 01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:59,120 Speaker 1: the smoke you can cass us on Showtime Basketball, YouTube 1836 01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:02,439 Speaker 1: and I Hart Platform Black Effects. I don't smoke, gastarre bit. 1837 01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:03,800 Speaker 1: We'll see y'all later, so