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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: I know all of you are busy out there. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate all the four hundred and fifty plus affiliate stations

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Speaker 1: in all fifty states, including state of Florida where I'm

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Speaker 1: broadcasting from today down in Jacksonville. Going to the Alabama

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Speaker 1: Florida game tomorrow with the OutKick Bus Tour. Be doing

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Speaker 1: a college football pregame show on the Big Fox Network.

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Speaker 1: Steve Spurrier, Do you know Steve Spurrier at all Buck,

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Speaker 1: You know that name Steve. Steve Spurrier is probably one

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Speaker 1: of the well, I would say, one of the five

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Speaker 1: most famous Southeastern Conference football coaches of all time, one

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Speaker 1: of the most famous college football coaches ever. Florida Gator

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Speaker 1: Lad also coached at South Carolina and Duke as a

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Speaker 1: head coach during his time. He's gonna be on with

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Speaker 1: me tomorrow. We should have a lot of fun there,

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Speaker 1: and you know it's Friday. So Buck and I were

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Speaker 1: talking about a topic that has gotten a lot of

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Speaker 1: attention in general, and that is certainly the division that

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Speaker 1: exists between red state and blue state America. Right now

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Speaker 1: and for most of our lives. I would say there's

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Speaker 1: never been a more substantial division between red state and

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Speaker 1: blue state America. And that doesn't mean that we haven't

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Speaker 1: always had disagreements. There have been a lot of times

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Speaker 1: where there have been many major issues that existed, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure there's ever been a time when people

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Speaker 1: who live in red states like me, I live in Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: spend a lot of time in Florida, Texas, the red

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Speaker 1: state governors where mostly freedom has triumph. And then Buck,

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Speaker 1: who is a New York City native, is a blue

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Speaker 1: state guy, even though he's got state sentiments, and there

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Speaker 1: have been complete lockdowns that have been going on in

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Speaker 1: New York City. Certainly. I just posted a video of

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Speaker 1: San Francisco's mayor out doing what left wing mayors and

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Speaker 1: governors have been doing throughout the pandemic, which is flouting

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Speaker 1: their own rules and breaking them like crazy. When it

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Speaker 1: comes to masks and the number of people that you

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Speaker 1: that Rush talked about this a little bit in some

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Speaker 1: has been getting a lot of attention. And Sarah Silverman

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Speaker 1: is a comedian, but she brought it up recently. And

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Speaker 1: I want you to listen to this audio, and then

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Speaker 1: Buck and I are going to kind of debate and

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Speaker 1: discuss it because I do think it's really gotten fascinating

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Speaker 1: and it's something that you may be talking about with

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Speaker 1: your friends and family. Does it make sense for all

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Speaker 1: fifty states given our divisions right now? Is this like

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Speaker 1: a divorce? Are we headed towards a divorce? Listen to

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Speaker 1: Sarah Silverman. If people aren't getting along, like in relationship,

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Speaker 1: they break up, you know, so like why don't we

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Speaker 1: just finally just realize that these states aren't working and

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Speaker 1: like divide up until like two or three countries, like

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Speaker 1: Like the Conservatives can be USA one because they love

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Speaker 1: being number one and it means something to them, and

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Speaker 1: I'd love to have that be theirs. They can be

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Speaker 1: USA one, We'll be USA two and we'll be allies,

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Speaker 1: and you'll come over here and we'll go over there.

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Speaker 1: And many times when you go to a different country

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Speaker 1: you have to get a vaccine. That's it. So this

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Speaker 1: is this is really funny, like this is she's talking

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Speaker 1: about it in a funny way, obviously, And you know

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Speaker 1: this book because I'm a Civil War history nerd this

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Speaker 1: we actually tried this back in the eighteen sixties. This

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Speaker 1: was the idea that the South would have its own

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Speaker 1: the Civil War, we still kind of are breaking down

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Speaker 1: in many of the same ways. Right, Well, the South

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Speaker 1: Here's what's what's actually happening, right I mean, people talk

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Speaker 1: I mean the Census Bureau data, the most recent Census

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Speaker 1: what's happening. You are seeing people voting with their feet. Now,

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Speaker 1: The only way that a governor, well not governor knew

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Speaker 1: way that a state like California realizes it's too far

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Speaker 1: Make dip. We have federalism, right. You talk about this

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Speaker 1: but also all the ways the federal government will step

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Speaker 1: It does a sort of short circuiting of the mechanisms

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Speaker 1: of correction for poor governance in blue states. Because the

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Speaker 1: But as long as they can be as long as

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Speaker 1: York and California, particularly, as long as they have federal

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Speaker 1: which is what's going on. Yeah, and look, I think

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Speaker 1: where I live Buck. I'll tell you this, this is

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Speaker 1: a massive topic of conversation. I know there's a lot

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Speaker 1: This is a big topic where people ask all the

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Speaker 1: certainly in my state, hey, did you come here because

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Speaker 1: My brother, my older brother, who moves to Florida is

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Speaker 1: now he's now a permanent He's at his Florida driver

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Speaker 1: He says he's at the gun store. One of the

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Speaker 1: Blue Staters go to a red state and they're like, wait,

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Speaker 1: guy's something the gun just like all right, But because

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Speaker 1: change of actors, he's like, just make sure you vote

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Speaker 1: the right way. Yeah, And by the way, he did

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Speaker 1: not mean vote for Joe Biden. So this is a

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Speaker 1: real phenomenon that plays out. We should mention this. By

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Speaker 1: the way, too, the data was out you fifty percent

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Speaker 1: The fact that we've now hit fifty percent for women,

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Speaker 1: I think it speaks to the defund the police movement.

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Speaker 1: but with crime surging, I want to take you to

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Speaker 1: I was born in the South. I think most Southerners

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Speaker 1: gun range trips much more of a normal act, at

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Speaker 1: least than Red state America. Yeah, well, I think that

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Speaker 1: absolutely true about firems, and by the firearms have become

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Speaker 1: such a huge cultural signifier in Blue states. Knowing nothing

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Speaker 1: but also with all the COVID rules and regulations you're seeing,

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Speaker 1: it's a reminder I think people had had started to

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Speaker 1: lose a sense of your governor really does matter. Your

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Speaker 1: state government can really make a difference in your life.

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Speaker 1: It's not just oh we're you know, we're all Americans,

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Speaker 1: that we're all paying the same federal income tax and

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Speaker 1: the federal government makes all these determinations. Unfortunately, the federal

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Speaker 1: government does far too much. But at least if you're

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Speaker 1: in a state, you have a fighting chance. And this

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Speaker 1: is why Texas, Florida people are moving to these places

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Speaker 1: and making essentially are the most powerful vote you can

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Speaker 1: you gonna live, where you're gonna pay taxes as an American?

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Speaker 1: And I mean, look, I had somebody just earlier this

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Speaker 1: to do that because it will be a slap in

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Speaker 1: the face. It'll be offensive if you've been double masking

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Speaker 1: this whole time. If you remember, there are people who

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Speaker 1: were bragging about how like I haven't left my house, yes,

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Speaker 1: as if it were a sign of stream Like I'm

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Speaker 1: twenty five years old, and you're like, why won't you

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Speaker 1: leave your house because of COVID at twenty five and

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Speaker 1: unless you're born without an immune system? That feels like

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Speaker 1: a pretty weird move. London Breed, by the way, hypocrisy,

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Speaker 1: do you think this will do? You think this will

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Speaker 1: cost her? She's at a she's unmasked, singing and dancing

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Speaker 1: with it, totally unmasked crowd in direct violation of San

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Speaker 1: Francisco Order. Nobody in It's not only Clay that we'll

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Speaker 1: make fun of this as we should. The people of

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Speaker 1: San Francisco will convince themselves. Okay, well, nobody's perfect. At

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Speaker 1: least she's obsticated. But it's not just that she's on

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Speaker 1: the right side of the issue by making all the

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Speaker 1: peasants mask up, so we'll excuse it. Well, remember the CNN,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I still love that when Obama threw his

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Speaker 1: party and had a massive crowd and then ended up,

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Speaker 1: you know, uninviting a few people. Nobody, doctor Fauci, nobody

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Speaker 1: came out and said, this is a really bad idea

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Speaker 1: to be doing if you're gonna be following the CDC guidelines.

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Speaker 1: And the one did breed situation, remember Obama was defended

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Speaker 1: by that CNN commentator who said, well, it's an educated,

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Speaker 1: sophisticated crowd, right, so as if oh the virus, it

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Speaker 1: was like gonna impact them. And then it was like,

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Speaker 1: oh wait, these people they still remember some of the

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Speaker 1: lines from Hamlet. They're gonna be fine. You know, they're

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Speaker 1: they're fantastic. And so the hip hop courcy to me,

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Speaker 1: the essence of whether you can trust someone or not,

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Speaker 1: and there's obviously a lot of different versions of this,

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Speaker 1: is do they live the same life privately that they

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Speaker 1: claim to live publicly. And look, I'm gonna be on

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Speaker 1: the road buck for the Alabama Florida game. I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be out in crowded bars. There are

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Speaker 1: gonna be pictures of me with our listeners, with college

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Speaker 1: football fans all over social media. Nobody's gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to say, oh my god, look at Clay Travis. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a mask on. Because I'm telling all of

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Speaker 1: you exactly what I believe, which is I'm not at risk.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna live my life normally. To me, that's the

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Speaker 1: ultimate test, right are you living the same life privately

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Speaker 1: that you claim to live publicly? And what we're seeing

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Speaker 1: exposed very often on the democratic side of the equation,

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Speaker 1: particularly with COVID, is how many people are claiming to

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Speaker 1: be on one side of an issue and then in

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Speaker 1: their own lives, their own lives at stake, with their

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Speaker 1: own life choices, whether it's their kids in school. How

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Speaker 1: many Democratic politicians put their kids in schools with private

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Speaker 1: schools when they didn't let the average person out there

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Speaker 1: kids go to school is unbelievable. This has been true

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Speaker 1: for the entire pandemic. By the way, it's true of

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Speaker 1: a lot of Democrat policy positions. You see this with

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Speaker 1: a climate change is another one which I believe is

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Speaker 1: a religion replacement for leftists. I think actually faucism has

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Speaker 1: become at some level a religion replacement, a kind of

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Speaker 1: existential identity tribalism for people. Now you know you you

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Speaker 1: in fauci, We trust is what a lot of Democrats

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Speaker 1: think about this entire pandemic, and that that's their motto.

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Speaker 1: But they want things, you know, whether it's hot, whether

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Speaker 1: it's higher taxes, climate change, any number of things. Even

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Speaker 1: in some cases gun control. By the way, you'll have

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Speaker 1: prominent celebrities who'll be really anti gun, and then you'll

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Speaker 1: find out this, this was a big thing in New

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Speaker 1: York City. Well they got to conceal carry permit because

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Speaker 1: they were scared for the security or there's a security

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Speaker 1: is armed up. But they don't want other people to

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Speaker 1: have that. You know. It's it's about the idea for

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Speaker 1: everybody else that makes them as individuals feel good, and

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Speaker 1: they never want to connect the individual reality or rejection

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Speaker 1: as an individual of these policies with what they want

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Speaker 1: for everybody else. Absolutely true. Over COVID London, breed the

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Speaker 1: same Mariel Bowser, Gavin Newsom. I mean, you get on

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Speaker 1: a list all these Democrats very fraudulent on this issue.

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Speaker 1: But you know, the vac's passport situation, there's some cause

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Speaker 1: for uh. I don't know if I can't say it

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Speaker 1: makes me happy, but at least there's there are places

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Speaker 1: clay and there's some numbers on this. We're starting to

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Speaker 1: see that are refusing in New York. So you do this,

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Speaker 1: I should. I think that's fantastic. We should get into

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Speaker 1: where they're refusing and where they're not and how this

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Speaker 1: is going. Because my belief, first of all, the top

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Speaker 1: of the list for me would be if we could

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Speaker 1: just get airline attendants to stop acting like you know,

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Speaker 1: Stalinist Stalinist prison guards on airplanes about mass Nobody he

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Speaker 1: cares if the mask falls below my nose. No normal human.

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Speaker 1: Anyone who has a problem with that is a moron. Okay,

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Speaker 1: nobody cares, but the airline antenn will come my excuse me, sir,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, excuse me, Put the mask off. Put the mask.

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Speaker 1: They're crazy and I'm sorry, I do not buy this

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Speaker 1: thing that it's because other people will complain it's dark,

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Speaker 1: can pretend that I'm doing my peanuts really slowly. You're

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Speaker 1: eating and drinking. It's nonsensical and the whole thing is idiotic.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you it's worse on planes than it

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Speaker 1: is anywhere else. And I think it's just because everyone's

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Speaker 1: Alex Berenson at the top of the third hour to

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Speaker 1: break down all of the latest COVID data. His data

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Speaker 1: made people at Twitter so uncomfortable that they banned him

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Speaker 1: and Buck. What's amazing is he's about a month ahead

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Speaker 1: of wherever the overall consensus goes. I remember when we

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Speaker 1: had him come in studio with us. He said, Man,

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Speaker 1: you know, all the data is reflecting that Israel's gonna

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Speaker 1: need a booster shot, and they're gonna try to argue

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Speaker 1: that that's still what's going to happen. That was long

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Speaker 1: before anybody was talking about booster shots, and that's one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons why he got banned on Twitter. If

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Speaker 1: you go back and look at everything that he said,

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Speaker 1: he's been a month, six weeks, two months ahead of

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Speaker 1: where the consensus opinion is. So I'm genuinely curious to

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Speaker 1: get him on with us and see what he believes

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Speaker 1: the data is telling us going forward. You even hear

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration now ring to officials from the administration

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Speaker 1: referring to the Israeli data because they recognize, as they are,

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Speaker 1: it is more granular, more precise, more transparent, and about

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Speaker 1: three months ahead of our own trends and data in

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Speaker 1: terms of the vaccination timeline. So it was always something

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Speaker 1: that should have been looked at as a signpost of

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Speaker 1: where we were going. But the Biden administration was hoping

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Speaker 1: that whatever it was, it was going to be a

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Speaker 1: different situation. You know, Clay I had mentioned the enforcement

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Speaker 1: that's going on here, the enforcements going of restaurants New

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Speaker 1: York City. So in New York right now, it is

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Speaker 1: in effect that by order of the Mayor's office under

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Speaker 1: the Health Authority, you know, in the city, whatever you

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Speaker 1: have to show a vaccine, a vaccine passport, basically a

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Speaker 1: piece of paper or a photo of the piece of

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Speaker 1: paper to go inside. And what you're what you're finding

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Speaker 1: is the enforcement of this is highly uneven. And in general,

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Speaker 1: i'd say more high profile and expensive establishments seem to

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Speaker 1: be enforcing it, which is interesting because you already have

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Speaker 1: some class dynamics playing out here. But you know, the

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Speaker 1: local burger chain maybe doesn't check, or the local burger joint,

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Speaker 1: but you know Shay Fancy Fancy is actually checking. New

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Speaker 1: York Post had this this piece out today. Most of

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Speaker 1: the fifteen Manhattan restaurants visited by folks who are undercover

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Speaker 1: in a sense this week not enforcing it. Four out

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Speaker 1: of fifteen restaurants asked reporters for ID along with proof

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Speaker 1: of vaccination before seating them. Oh, I'm sorry, this was

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Speaker 1: actually inside edition that did this New York Post reporting

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Speaker 1: on it. But I would say, in your experience, higher higher,

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Speaker 1: you're really you end up. I think it's about a

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Speaker 1: fifty fifty proposition. And remember a lot of places have

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Speaker 1: outdoor dining still in New York as an option. When

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Speaker 1: this is gonna get really annoying is when it gets

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Speaker 1: freezing outside, and now you're not gonna want to be outside,

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Speaker 1: and then they're gonna say you can either show me,

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Speaker 1: show me your vaccine papers, or go freeze your butt off.

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Speaker 1: I went to dinner Clay in January of twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Because it's a long story, but I had I mean,

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Speaker 1: even if they had like the little heater thing and

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Speaker 1: I had three layers at a coat and everything, if

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Speaker 1: it's twenty degrees outside and your outdoors eating, you are

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Speaker 1: going to freeze your butt off. I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: care unless they have a heating system. It doesn't you know.

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Speaker 1: It felt like I was ice fishing, except that probably

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Speaker 1: was more would be more comfortable. So what you're telling

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Speaker 1: me is, whenever I'm back in New York, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be sitting out there with you, building a little fire,

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Speaker 1: freezing our butts off. And that's if they'll serve me,

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Speaker 1: even outdoors. Because I think the crazy thing will be

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Speaker 1: if they are continuing to enforce the vaccine mandate even

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Speaker 1: when it's fifteen degrees outside in some New York bubble

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Speaker 1: street dinner location. And I kind of find it to

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Speaker 1: be entertaining the idea of walking around and just seeing

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Speaker 1: how common the vaccine passport check is going to be,

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Speaker 1: because obviously I've never been asked where I live, and

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Speaker 1: certainly it's not happening at SEC football stadiums or at

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Speaker 1: SEC bars or anywhere else all over Red State America

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Speaker 1: where I'm going to watch football games, and so it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be I you know, I'm kind of entertained by

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Speaker 1: it on some level. It's also it's also fascinating. First

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Speaker 1: of all, I see a fair number of people who

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Speaker 1: are who are out on bicycles who have the helmet

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Speaker 1: in their hand but their mask on their face, which

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Speaker 1: I think is you see this in New York, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like we're in my helmet today. The

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Speaker 1: mask though while I bicycle that I've got to wear.

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Speaker 1: So that's going on. And then there are other places

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Speaker 1: you go into here and look, it's the same in La. Now.

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Speaker 1: I've spoken a friend of mine in La earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: Same deal they've got going on where you know they've

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Speaker 1: got the mandate in place. Now you got to get facts.

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Speaker 1: But some places have a mask mandate indoors just because

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Speaker 1: and they don't check your paper, your vax papers. Other

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Speaker 1: places vax papers, no mask mandate, other places nothing, some

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Speaker 1: places both. How run You're just like last just because

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Speaker 1: think about it, You're you're coming into contact with people

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Speaker 1: that are in all these different environments and mixing together

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Speaker 1: in one way or another. So is it really are

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Speaker 1: you really safe because you go into the one bar

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Speaker 1: that doesn't you know you're gonna not mask in one place,

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Speaker 1: but you're gonna mask in another place. It just doesn't

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Speaker 1: make any sense. And also, again, how does it ever end?

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Speaker 1: To your point earlier making fun of London breed, people

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Speaker 1: won't acknowledge that they were wrong. How are they ever

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Speaker 1: going to allow this to end? We have to make

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Speaker 1: Fauci like king of his own country and give him

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Speaker 1: like a billion dollars and make him go away. The

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Speaker 1: little little tyrant goes away. You know, Faucia is gonna

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Speaker 1: have to become a country. You're listening to, Clay Travis said,

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Speaker 1: buck Sexton fund the EIB Network