Speaker 1: Welcome in What Driving the Gred Episode three forty seven.
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Speaker 1: are not on TV today and tomorrow because of the
Speaker 1: Euro Soccer tournament, so we will be This will be
Speaker 1: the only place that I'll be on the air today
Speaker 1: and then a little schedule adjustment next week. Instead of
Speaker 1: Tuesday Pod, we will do a Monday Pod. The reason
Speaker 1: for that well, I will explain in just a moment.
Speaker 1: Demand's a great to see you, you know, the approaching
Speaker 1: weekend birthday major plans anything, just probably just locate with
Speaker 1: the friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing, nothing too crazy. Yeah, maybe okay Saturday or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's also the late twenties birthdays are they all
Speaker 1: kind of run together? Twenty five is something and third
Speaker 1: is something. But twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty
Speaker 1: nine maybe a little something because you feel like that's
Speaker 1: my last year in their twenties. Yeah. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: this is if we were to power rank birthdays, twenty
Speaker 1: seven is pretty bad, like not bad, but it's just
Speaker 1: it's you know, it doesn't make very very low on
Speaker 1: the totem pole. And for your birthdays up to this point,
Speaker 1: it like as far as excitement level going into it,
Speaker 1: it might be dead last. Like I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: rain on your like, just there's not a lot of buzz,
Speaker 1: not a lot of you know, not a lot of
Speaker 1: you know, discussion of this coming birthday reminder like the
Speaker 1: pod or subscribe to the pod, like the YouTube page,
Speaker 1: subscribe to the YouTube page. Rate review all that. I
Speaker 1: did promise a major personal announcement professional announcement that's coming momentarily.
Speaker 1: But before we get to that, straight the voicemail brought
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Speaker 1: Nikola jokicch not signing his extension yet. This is to me,
Speaker 1: I'll just do it very quickly. Actually, a non story
Speaker 1: that is pure. It is not about don't worry Daniel,
Speaker 1: lack of faith in the franchise or anything like that.
Speaker 1: It is simply he can make more money waiting one year,
Speaker 1: so it makes sense for him to wait one year. Also,
Speaker 1: Shaye and Angel Reese named the NBA two K cover athletes.
Speaker 1: I've got to say I'm a little confused about the
Speaker 1: Angel Rey's piece of this, and it has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with Angel Rees versus the FISA, Collier versus Caitlin
Speaker 1: Clark versus Asia Wilson, has to do with the the
Speaker 1: legitimate question of like the physical video game is going
Speaker 1: to have Shae on the cover. So when they're like
Speaker 1: Angel Reese is on the it is she. There is
Speaker 1: not a w NBA two K game, it is it
Speaker 1: is layered inside, so like there's you people are going
Speaker 1: to be able to buy a physical video game with
Speaker 1: that cop with that cover.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that's how I worked in previous there's
Speaker 2: because I feel like there was a year that, like Kobe,
Speaker 2: they had like a Kobe version, like a Lebron version
Speaker 2: of this.
Speaker 3: It's just like different covers, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I thought it was just like a digital
Speaker 1: like the news, like the Sports Illustrated cover athlete, when
Speaker 1: you can't go physically buy a Sports Illustrated anymore like that.
Speaker 1: It was just an internet image. I didn't know you
Speaker 1: could get pardon me, the physical media and one of
Speaker 1: them would have Angel on the cover. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: well that's that is more interesting to me and cooler
Speaker 1: for her. And she actually has been playing really well
Speaker 1: as of late, and by the way, smart of two
Speaker 1: k to be like, you know what, let's just stir
Speaker 1: the pod a little bit. Let's just do that, and
Speaker 1: then you know what I mean, be like, hey, why
Speaker 1: are you mad at us? And also Joe Burrow said
Speaker 1: after his house got robbed, he is no longer buying
Speaker 1: the Batmobile, which is a sick headline. Thank you as
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Speaker 1: voicemail brought to you by Boost Mobile. All right, demonse,
Speaker 1: Before we get to the actual show, I promised on
Speaker 1: Tuesday that I was going to have an announcement off
Speaker 1: the top of the show today And for some of you,
Speaker 1: I think you will find this to be incredibly cool.
Speaker 1: For some of you you will not care at all.
Speaker 1: And for some folks probably less so. Folks that are
Speaker 1: listening or watching this right now live on YouTube. But
Speaker 1: who are going to see this announcement on social media
Speaker 1: or if it gets reported in other outlets. I think
Speaker 1: some people will probably be mad, and I will address
Speaker 1: that on the back end of this. But next week
Speaker 1: I am going back to Vegas because for the World
Speaker 1: Series of Poker Main Event, Final Table, I will be
Speaker 1: a part of the broadcast on Poker go and so
Speaker 1: let me talk about what this means for me for
Speaker 1: a moment. Then let me talk about the responsibility that
Speaker 1: this is, and then we will get into the sports.
Speaker 1: For me, this is this will be one of the
Speaker 1: five coolest moments of my professional career, full stop. This
Speaker 1: is a true dream. This is something that I have
Speaker 1: been trying to set the table for for the better
Speaker 1: part of ten years. If I'm being totally honest and
Speaker 1: really put real effort into a strategy to make this
Speaker 1: a possibility over the last five years. Some people know,
Speaker 1: some people don't that I about four years ago, played
Speaker 1: Phil Helm youth heads up in a poker tournament for
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars. It was It was an unbelievable experience.
Speaker 1: I almost won. It was great. I actually thought I
Speaker 1: handled myself quite well. It created a few hilarious, you know,
Speaker 1: viral clips even if you're not super into poker. But
Speaker 1: when you remove all that from it, it still was
Speaker 1: me putting down fifty thousand dollars when I'm a huge underdog,
Speaker 1: and I think some people thought that that was maybe
Speaker 1: fool either foolish of me or man Nick must have
Speaker 1: way more money than I thought. And the answer was neither.
Speaker 1: It wasn't that I had more money than you thought,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't that I thought I was a favorite.
Speaker 1: It was that that to me was an investment and
Speaker 1: getting more involved on a real level with the poker world.
Speaker 1: And I thought, if I handled myself well, if I
Speaker 1: continued to develop my relationships with people like Phil and
Speaker 1: Daniel and the legendary Nick Shulman, and not that those
Speaker 1: guys aren't legendary, but Nick's just having an unbelievable summer,
Speaker 1: and Brent Hanks at Poker Go and Jeff Platten, those guys,
Speaker 1: Ali and Jeanne, that maybe one day I could add
Speaker 1: not just some types of poker broadcasting to what I do,
Speaker 1: but maybe be able to call the poker version of
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Well, I guess I could say the
Speaker 1: poker version of the World Series, because it is called
Speaker 1: the World Series of Poker main event, and the fact
Speaker 1: that I'm going to be able to so last year
Speaker 1: I went out there and called the final table of
Speaker 1: the two hundred and fifty K, which was probably not
Speaker 1: probably it was the biggest buy in and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe the hardest tournament of the summer. But the main
Speaker 1: event is the main event, and it is a poker
Speaker 1: tournament unlike any other poker tournament that exists in the world.
Speaker 1: It is still the most prestigious. It is still the
Speaker 1: white Whale for every poker player who's ever lived, And
Speaker 1: it is a lifelong dream of mine to be a
Speaker 1: part of that broadcast. And the fact that I will,
Speaker 1: and I don't you know, Brent Hanks is going to
Speaker 1: obviously be a part of it. Jeff Platt will be
Speaker 1: a part of it, I would imagine, and I hope
Speaker 1: desperately that Nick Shulman, who, in addition to being my
Speaker 1: buddy and in my opinion right now, the single greatest
Speaker 1: poker player alive, he is going to be a part
Speaker 1: of it. The voice of poker worldwide, Al Najad is
Speaker 1: going to be a part of it. And I'm sure others.
Speaker 1: If you've been watching the World Series of Poker, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you are wondering, as Jared Blesnik, who has been
Speaker 1: absolutely unbelievable on comms for the World Series so far
Speaker 1: this year, is he going to be a part of it?
Speaker 1: My answer is I hope so. And now if you're
Speaker 1: if you are seeing this and you're not seeing it
Speaker 1: because you're watching What's Right with Nick right on YouTube,
Speaker 1: or you're not listening to us on iTunes or Spotify.
Speaker 1: You're see this because it is embedded in a pokernews
Speaker 1: dot com article or somebody shared it on Twitter, and
Speaker 1: your reaction is, You've got to be kidding me. It's
Speaker 1: the main event, final table, and they're gonna put some
Speaker 1: hot take sports guy on there, and it's not going
Speaker 1: to be given the gravity, or this person is not
Speaker 1: going to take this as seriously as we in the
Speaker 1: poker community would like. All I can say to you is,
Speaker 1: I give you my word. Nobody will take this more
Speaker 1: seriously than me, and I will as far as treating
Speaker 1: this event with the gravity and the professionalism that it
Speaker 1: clearly deserves. I I can promise you I will not
Speaker 1: let the poker world down. Now will that mean you
Speaker 1: like the commentary, or that, if I'm being totally honest,
Speaker 1: I'm good at it, or any of those other things.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll see. So I cannot promise you that
Speaker 1: I'll do great. I know that if I don't, all
Speaker 1: be heartbroken, because but you know, such as life, sometimes
Speaker 1: sometimes you know something's not your thing, and so and
Speaker 1: I I've done a fair amount of poker commentary before,
Speaker 1: but nothing like this, and it will just for me.
Speaker 2: This is.
Speaker 1: The There are a few things professionally that are on
Speaker 1: the list. I've been incredibly lucky and I've been able
Speaker 1: to do a lot of the list that I would
Speaker 1: have had twenty years ago. As far as Pie in
Speaker 1: the Sky, everything works out perfectly. Goals if I were
Speaker 1: to if you were to ask me ten years ago
Speaker 1: five that I was like, I had not done and
Speaker 1: was not tracking to do, but I still, you know,
Speaker 1: wanted like to keep available to me. They would have
Speaker 1: been in no particular order, to be a part of
Speaker 1: an Olympics, to at least one time be the third
Speaker 1: man in a booth for an NFL and an NBA game,
Speaker 1: to at least one time do red Zone that Sunday
Speaker 1: follow me do the games, which might sound silly to people,
Speaker 1: but I just think I am with respect to the
Speaker 1: great Andrews Siliano and the great Scott Hansen, I actually
Speaker 1: think I'd be the best in the world at that
Speaker 1: that one. I would not be worried people would be like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's not good. I actually think there's no one in
Speaker 1: the world that'd be better at that than me, but
Speaker 1: set out aside. And then the fifth and again in
Speaker 1: no order, would be to broadcast the World Series of
Speaker 1: Poker Main Event, Final Table. And so it is close
Speaker 1: to as cool as it gets for me, and I
Speaker 1: am overwhelmingly excited to do it. So that's the announcement.
Speaker 1: It will They are long days. That is a lot
Speaker 1: of the streams are you know, ten, twelve, fourteen hours
Speaker 1: at times, which is why a lot of people will
Speaker 1: be involved. And let me just say one other thing.
Speaker 1: I mentioned this person already, but I cannot thank Maries
Speaker 1: Candani and Brent Hanks and Carrie Kats and Jeff Platt
Speaker 1: and all the people at Poker Go, and I mentioned
Speaker 1: Ali and Nick obviously enough for trusting me with this
Speaker 1: and letting me do this. And hopefully this isn't like
Speaker 1: a fantasy camp type thing. This is something where people
Speaker 1: are watching the broadcast and they're like, Nick added something
Speaker 1: that was good, we enjoyed that, Like there that is again,
Speaker 1: I'll be I will feel I'll be crestfallen if the
Speaker 1: poker world watches this and it's like, man, Nick kind
Speaker 1: of screwed that up. It could happen. I don't think
Speaker 1: it will, but that's the major announcement. Sorry for the
Speaker 1: self you know, focus there. But that's why the show
Speaker 1: next week will be Monday instead of Tuesday, because Tuesday
Speaker 1: I'll be in Vegas. And while they did tell me
Speaker 1: I could do the show from Vegas like I did before,
Speaker 1: I want to be zeroed locked in on the task
Speaker 1: at hand. All right, demons, good to see you. And
Speaker 1: by the way, for the second straight Vegas trip, your
Speaker 1: mom and I are both going to Vegas and night,
Speaker 1: and we are going to be there like she is
Speaker 1: going to Vegas Saturday and leaving Tuesday night and I
Speaker 1: am going to Vegas Monday night and leaving Wednesday night.
Speaker 1: And so we might we might not even cross paths.
Speaker 1: You might ask, well, you know what, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's just how it happens. I guess. One argument is
Speaker 1: because you know, Deanna and one of us being here.
Speaker 1: The other argument is like, I don't know, like maybe
Speaker 1: she likes Vegas more without me.
Speaker 3: Who knows.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get all right, let's get to the
Speaker 1: sports at hand here.
Speaker 2: Uh so Aiden is getting settled in in La getting
Speaker 2: all comfy and all that. Luca sent him a welcome message,
Speaker 2: you know, welcome to La DeAndre Aiden decided to play
Speaker 2: with you next year. Lebron James not said anything to
Speaker 2: him though. Is there something to read into here?
Speaker 1: It's not nothing? Yeah, uh so this DeAndre did this
Speaker 1: interview two days ago, I think one whatever it was
Speaker 1: the interview that he did, we played a piece of
Speaker 1: on the TV show yesterday, and we did not play
Speaker 1: this piece because it was a radio interview in l
Speaker 1: and I, you know, I hadn't. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: this was said. So credit to whomever clipped this and
Speaker 1: act you know, posted it, because I didn't. I hadn't
Speaker 1: listened to the full fifteen minute or whatever radio interview
Speaker 1: it was, and so I had only seen kind of
Speaker 1: what had made mainstream, so to speak. But I saw
Speaker 1: this and I was like, oh, well that's something. So
Speaker 1: and the reason it's something is because it is either
Speaker 1: how do I phrase this properly, Lebron's going to be there, Well,
Speaker 1: it's not that is so that is by no means like, oh,
Speaker 1: lock it in because of that this, but it certainly
Speaker 1: added a little more fuel to the idea that Lebron
Speaker 1: James might not be a Laker next year, that it's
Speaker 1: that So if famously or I shouldn't. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's famous, but at least to me, it is.
Speaker 1: Lebron when he announced he was going back to Cleveland
Speaker 1: and he did it with Lee Jenkins. In an SI article,
Speaker 1: he listed all the guys he was excited to be
Speaker 1: playing with with the Caps, and he had not listed
Speaker 1: number one overall pick from a week prior, Andrew Wiggins.
Speaker 1: And one way to read that was the article was
Speaker 1: written before the draft, or that he was you know,
Speaker 1: he was only thinking about or including the active veterans.
Speaker 1: And another way to it was Lebron expected that they
Speaker 1: would be trading Wiggins as part of getting a veteran
Speaker 1: win now guy, and that is exactly and so he
Speaker 1: did not want to include Andrew Wiggins when he did
Speaker 1: not think he was ever going to be playing with
Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins, which is exactly what they did. So here
Speaker 1: are before I give my opinion on what I think
Speaker 1: this actually is, let's lay out all of the available
Speaker 1: options for this, and we can, you know, put a
Speaker 1: percentage on each of them at the end. Option one
Speaker 1: busy guy forgot. Let's like again, like these are not
Speaker 1: power ranked in order. I'm just saying, if we want
Speaker 1: to lay out all of the possibilities. Right, Option one,
Speaker 1: busy guy forgot. I guess Option two is not that
Speaker 1: Busy didn't, but has some feud with DeAndre eight and
Speaker 1: we didn't know about and he's furious about this trade.
Speaker 1: I would say, of all these, that's probably the least likely.
Speaker 1: I think if there was a DeAndre eight and Lebron beef,
Speaker 1: we would have known about it. Right Option three, he
Speaker 1: did and DeAndre didn't see the text. Deandre's wrong. He
Speaker 1: because he said Luca texted him and Lebron didn't so
Speaker 1: at night and he didn't say anyone talked to him
Speaker 1: on the phone. They missed the text. Got so many
Speaker 1: texts that you know, when the news broke that he
Speaker 1: got a text from a number that he didn't have,
Speaker 1: it was like, yo, congrats man, let's get it and
Speaker 1: he was like, okay, whatever, and it turns out that's
Speaker 1: Lebron James. Again, these are not power ranked in order.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to lay out all of the available possibilities.
Speaker 1: Those first three, by the way, slim to very very slim,
Speaker 1: but they're on the possibilities all right. Now. The more
Speaker 1: salacious ones, uh that Lebron does not want to tell
Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton excited to play with you when he does
Speaker 1: not know if he will be playing with him. And
Speaker 1: then the last option is Lebron wants to expect to
Speaker 1: be playing with DeAndre Ayton, but wants to keep maximum
Speaker 1: pressure on the Lakers to make every move possible to
Speaker 1: make their team better going into this year, and the
Speaker 1: only leverage he has over them right now is the
Speaker 1: specter of, well, maybe I don't think I'm going to
Speaker 1: be on this team. That to me, those are the
Speaker 1: those five possibilities cover you know, ninety nine percent of
Speaker 1: the call it one hundred percent of what the reason
Speaker 1: could be. Here's how I would apply the likelihood of
Speaker 1: each my first draft pick of that would be Lebron
Speaker 1: thinks he's going to be on the Lakers, did not
Speaker 1: reach out to DeAndre because he had a feeling it
Speaker 1: would be become public that he had not yet reached
Speaker 1: out to DeAndre, and wants to keep the pressure on
Speaker 1: Rob Polenka to continue to improve the roster, which, if
Speaker 1: we're being honest, they have had a underwhelming off season.
Speaker 1: On that note, if I may, then I'll get back
Speaker 1: to the percentage's parts because Brew and I got into
Speaker 1: this yesterday. Going into this off season, we felt like
Speaker 1: the Lakers it was an absolute lock and mandatory that
Speaker 1: they upgrade the center position. They did do that, and
Speaker 1: they did that in an interesting way where they didn't
Speaker 1: have to give up assets, where it didn't cost them
Speaker 1: a lot of money, and the talent upside is quite high.
Speaker 1: But it's also a guy who's six years into his
Speaker 1: career has been unreliable and not that mature and really
Speaker 1: alienated teammates and coaches.
Speaker 2: So I really think Lebron James is like, man, y'all
Speaker 2: got DeAndre and that's not the center I wanted.
Speaker 3: I'm not texting him. I'm not welcome the team.
Speaker 1: Oh so you oh so you think, oh I should
Speaker 1: have included that one. I guess it's good that Lebron is.
Speaker 1: Lebron is pissed that it was a yeah, oh so
Speaker 1: I didn't. Actually, so the reason I didn't even think
Speaker 1: of that, but that's obvious. I definitely should have. I
Speaker 1: guess that's kind of that, you know in the Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. So here's the reason that I'm I don't
Speaker 1: put a pin in that real quick, and let me
Speaker 1: finish this other thought. Then we'll get to that one,
Speaker 1: because that's good. I'm glad you mentioned that one. So
Speaker 1: they did get a center, and we can argue about
Speaker 1: if it was their best option, if it was the
Speaker 1: best of bad options, whatever it is. But the rest
Speaker 1: of the roster not only remained basically unchanged, but got
Speaker 1: to touch worse because switching out Dorian Finney Smith for
Speaker 1: Jake Lauravia is at the very least in the short
Speaker 1: term of downgrade and so there would be real frustration there.
Speaker 1: So I would put Lebron expects to be a Laker
Speaker 1: but wants to keep the screws on the Lakers to
Speaker 1: continue to make moves as the reason for him not
Speaker 1: reaching out. I would put that at s sixty five percent.
Speaker 1: I think that is the biggest percentage here. I would
Speaker 1: put Lebron didn't reach out because he does not think
Speaker 1: he's going to be a Laker next year at twenty percent.
Speaker 1: I think there is a one in five shot right
Speaker 1: now that Lebron thinks, yeah, I'm not going to be
Speaker 1: on the team. Now, that's not that's that's not huge,
Speaker 1: but it's not nothing. It's you know, more likely than
Speaker 1: rolling a single die and rolling a six or any
Speaker 1: number on the die, any particular number on the die,
Speaker 1: So sixty five percent he's trying to keep the pressure
Speaker 1: on him. Twenty percent he he doesn't think he's going
Speaker 1: to be there. I will give Demonse's he you know
Speaker 1: this is not the player he wanted and therefore he
Speaker 1: didn't reach out at five percent. I will certainly massively
Speaker 1: upgrade Demonse's theory if we found out he did reach
Speaker 1: out to Jake Laavia, if like he was like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: let's get it, then then your likelihood is way way higher.
Speaker 1: I will put it at busy guy just didn't do
Speaker 1: it at five percent, and that leaves what oh, that
Speaker 1: leaves five more percent left, and I will put it
Speaker 1: at he did reach out DeAndre Ayton didn't have the
Speaker 1: number saved and did not know it was Lebron who
Speaker 1: was like, why is this person texting me with a
Speaker 1: crown at four percent, and I will put there is
Speaker 1: a long standing maybe base maybe out of loyalty to
Speaker 1: his buddy Chris Paul DeAndre Ayton beef at one. So
Speaker 1: that's that's how I handicap this whole thing. It's not
Speaker 1: nothing though, that's my takeaway. It's not nothing, and I
Speaker 1: I am interested in the next time, could you know,
Speaker 1: because you know what's also not nothing? Demonse if we're
Speaker 1: doing the not nothing meter. The Lakers who sent out
Speaker 1: a bunch of press releases about a bunch of offseason moves.
Speaker 1: The Lakers not sending out a press release about Lebron
Speaker 1: opting into his player option. That's also not nothing. Now
Speaker 1: does that mean it's everything? Of course? No, no, no no.
Speaker 1: This press releases come from the team, like your official
Speaker 1: press release is released by the team and sent to
Speaker 1: all NBA media. The most you want to know, the
Speaker 1: most famous NBA press release ever. Hold on, I gotta,
Speaker 1: I gotta. I want to quote it to you exactly.
Speaker 1: This is an all time one. So uh, pat Riley,
Speaker 1: who's never my My light just fell? Do I still look? Okay?
Speaker 1: I hope? So the so pat Riley un official in
Speaker 1: Miami Heat letterhead sent out to the league, league comes
Speaker 1: and everyone covering the league after Danny Ainge took a
Speaker 1: shot at pat Riley. So this is so here. Let
Speaker 1: me give you the background. Danny Ainge till Boston is
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, Danny Ange to Boston radio station WI that
Speaker 1: Lebron James had no call to challenge officials for failing
Speaker 1: to classify fouls assessed Kirk Heinrich and Taj Gibson as flagrant.
Speaker 1: He said, quote, I think the referees got the calls right.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a hard foul. I think
Speaker 1: the one involving Lebron against Boozer that was a flagrant.
Speaker 1: I think the officials got it right. I think that
Speaker 1: it's almost embarrassing that Lebron would complain about officiating. And
Speaker 1: so Danny Ainge, who was running the Celtics, comments on
Speaker 1: the radio about something that was happening between the Heat
Speaker 1: and the Bulls. So pat Riley has the Miami Heat
Speaker 1: Press office type up an official press release that reads,
Speaker 1: and I quote, Danny Ainge needs to shut the fuck
Speaker 1: up and manage his own team. He was the biggest
Speaker 1: whiner going when he was playing. And I know that
Speaker 1: because I coached against him. End of statement, at all time.
Speaker 1: At all time, all take the fine, but I've never
Speaker 1: liked this guy. I coached against him. We now play
Speaker 1: against him. And I quote, Danny Ainge needs to shut
Speaker 1: the fuck up and manage his own team. He was
Speaker 1: the biggest whiner going when he was playing. And I
Speaker 1: know that because I coached against him. Oh my goodness, gracious,
Speaker 1: Danny ains then again, I don't know why we're doing this.
Speaker 1: Aine then replies, I stand by what I said. That's all.
Speaker 1: I don't care about pat Riley. He can say whatever
Speaker 1: he wants. But this is just Danny Ainge talking. This
Speaker 1: isn't a press release. This is Danny Ainge. And then
Speaker 1: Aine added, I don't want to mess up his Armani
Speaker 1: suits and all that hair goop. It would be way
Speaker 1: too expensive for me. And so, I mean, that's so
Speaker 1: sorry about that. I Meany's just such a legend. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's just such a I remember when that came out
Speaker 1: and I was like, I didn't even know that was
Speaker 1: like a loud like in official communications. I guess, you
Speaker 1: know what a simpler time when I remember being somewhat scandalized.
Speaker 1: I'm like, he cursed he's a basketball team president. Little
Speaker 1: did I know that years later, you know, the people
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Speaker 1: All right, demonte A couple extensions in the NBA I
Speaker 1: found pretty noteworthy. Let's get to both of them. We'll
Speaker 1: start in Phoenix.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Suns have locked up Devin Booker with
Speaker 2: a record two year extension through twenty thirty. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: they might have fleeced the future Suns, but they have
Speaker 2: Devin Booker at least, right is there? What's their situation now?
Speaker 1: So here's the thing I and this also sorry to
Speaker 1: you know, as brew once said to me, he's like, Nick,
Speaker 1: everything isn't about Lebron, and it's like, well, in the NBA,
Speaker 1: it kind of is the just you know, Devin Booker
Speaker 1: another player objectively not as good as current Lebron James,
Speaker 1: who makes more money than Lebron James. Right now, forget
Speaker 1: the extension and nobody cares. Nobody's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you just can't win. If you're paying Devin Booker fifty
Speaker 1: three million, now, they can't win. But nobody blames Devin
Speaker 1: Booker for that.
Speaker 3: But the.
Speaker 1: Two year, one hundred and thirty three million is the
Speaker 1: projected extension him approaching, Devin Booker approaching becoming a million
Speaker 1: dollar a game player in his age thirty three season.
Speaker 1: So Devin Booker now is on the books for five years.
Speaker 1: Let's like if they if his contract was starting right now,
Speaker 1: let me do this math real quick. One ten one
Speaker 1: seventy one, one seventy one plus one thirty three, three
Speaker 1: h four. He's on the books now for the next
Speaker 1: five years, five years, three hundred and four million, an
Speaker 1: average of sixty million a year. The year by year
Speaker 1: salaries are fifty three, fifty seven, sixty one, sixty four,
Speaker 1: sixty nine.
Speaker 3: Would you say two years for what.
Speaker 1: The did? I? I said two for one thirty three
Speaker 1: two years. I So that's I I think it is.
Speaker 1: These are So what is this is a little bit
Speaker 1: of a media note. I suppose the modern sports media,
Speaker 1: when it comes to transaction reporting, is always going to
Speaker 1: report the maximum pop possible money that a deal could be,
Speaker 1: and that is like, let me see if I can
Speaker 1: even find it. Well, so it this is these deals.
Speaker 1: He is getting a percentage of the cap. Essentially with
Speaker 1: these max deals are you're like, you're guarante if you
Speaker 1: sign the TRUEMAX, you know you are guaranteed in this
Speaker 1: year this percentage of the cap and thirty five percent
Speaker 1: you know. Plus essentially it is an estimate of what
Speaker 1: the cap will be. And then there also might be
Speaker 1: a few small ish incentives. So this will be at
Speaker 1: least one thirty three I guess it could be one
Speaker 1: forty five. My point is the the reporting on all
Speaker 1: these guys deals always report the top end instead of
Speaker 1: the bottom end because it's not a lot of actual reporting.
Speaker 1: It's receiving mass text messages from agents, and the agents
Speaker 1: want the biggest number possible out there, So the somewhere
Speaker 1: between one thirty three and one five over the next
Speaker 1: couple of years. I didn't mean to contradict what you
Speaker 1: had said. I just was looking at it. I was
Speaker 1: looking at it from spotrack rather than the ESPN article
Speaker 1: and the reporting. But regardless, here is the the question
Speaker 1: that I have for anyone, uh, just kind of a
Speaker 1: thought exercise. Really, does if the Suns were to want
Speaker 1: to trade Devin Booker, does this make him more or
Speaker 1: less attractive to a team? And by that, I mean
Speaker 1: does the fact that you have him locked up for
Speaker 1: five more years? Uh? And you know so, they obviously
Speaker 1: wouldn't be trading him anytime soon, so call it four
Speaker 1: more years and you don't have to worry about him leaving.
Speaker 1: How does that counteract the fact that Devin Booker will
Speaker 1: be making again the most money any player in the
Speaker 1: league's allowed to make. And the answer might be no,
Speaker 1: Devin Booker is an All NBA player. He's worth the max.
Speaker 1: You pay him the max. Got it? But do we
Speaker 1: think that if like, is there reason to believe that
Speaker 1: if Devin Booker is the best player on your team,
Speaker 1: you're going to be a contending team. Now again, these
Speaker 1: are actual questions, because the argument might be he literally
Speaker 1: was in the finals a few years ago. My counterpoint
Speaker 1: to that would be, I don't think he the best
Speaker 1: player on that team. I think Chris Paul was. But regardless,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you know that certainly is arguable that he
Speaker 1: was and there was the best player. So it's Devin
Speaker 1: Booker's awesome. You just need to build the right stuff
Speaker 1: around him. Maybe the counterpoint to the counterpoint is in
Speaker 1: the new era of the second apron NBA, how easy
Speaker 1: is that to do? Now again, I would top of
Speaker 1: my head, what is Devin Booker the thirteenth best player
Speaker 1: in the NBA? You know, at best ninth, at worst fifteenth,
Speaker 1: somewhere in there. Those guys already as far as like
Speaker 1: building around him, you mean previously he's had start around him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Hit the he and Durant thing not working is a
Speaker 1: knock on both of them. Pretty significantly, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, and how badly it went. I put more
Speaker 1: of that on the the general dysfunction of the team
Speaker 1: and the fact that, oh and this is funny in
Speaker 1: a second, the general dysfunction of the team and the
Speaker 1: fact that it was just a terribly built roster. So
Speaker 1: I don't I don't kill him because he individually played
Speaker 1: well and he has wanted to be there, and he's
Speaker 1: kind of done right by them. But bigger picture, de Monsey,
Speaker 1: I just think the Suns are as absolutely stuck as
Speaker 1: you can get, and I don't see any realistic way
Speaker 1: for them to dig themselves out. And I don't know
Speaker 1: that Devin book Maybe Devin Booker, if they ended up
Speaker 1: deciding to finally accept defeat in Phoenix and tear it down,
Speaker 1: maybe you would get a massive haul for him, But
Speaker 1: I don't think that would be enough to dig themselves
Speaker 1: out of the hole that mattishbia is built for them,
Speaker 1: has doug for them. I'm happy for Booker, and Booker,
Speaker 1: you know, has been for a guy that was I
Speaker 1: think he was the eleventh pick of the draft. I
Speaker 1: know it was the end of the lottery. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I know he wasn't in the single digits for him
Speaker 1: now ten years into his career, two just be his
Speaker 1: thirteenth pick of the draft. Thank you be every single
Speaker 1: year twenty five plus a night on good not great
Speaker 1: efficiency and to get this type of money is a
Speaker 1: hell of an accomplishment. It is. He is a guy
Speaker 1: that twice in his career has made the All NBA team,
Speaker 1: once third team and then the one you know. In
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, the year coming off the finals, Berth
Speaker 1: was All NBA First Team, and he's been good in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I do think because of the new really
Speaker 1: unfortunate realities of the CBA, we are in a weird
Speaker 1: spot where a guy like that getting the MAX doesn't
Speaker 1: feel as clean as it once did. Like listen, if
Speaker 1: he's the thirteenth best player in basketball, he's worth the MAX.
Speaker 1: Those guys always have been since we've had a MAX.
Speaker 1: Because the new CBA is so punitive and can make
Speaker 1: it so hard to you know, keep teams together. It is,
Speaker 1: it just feels it feels to me. Tell me if
Speaker 1: you think this unfair demantse that if Devin Booker is
Speaker 1: ever going to forget win a championship beyond a perennial contender.
Speaker 1: He's going to need to be the team's say it again.
Speaker 3: He needs to not be a max player.
Speaker 1: No, I think he's gonna he's just gonna be a
Speaker 1: max player like that. I think that he needs to
Speaker 1: be the team's second best guy. Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: like do I yeah, uh, I don't. I think he's awesome.
Speaker 1: I also think if he's your best player, it's going
Speaker 1: to be very, very difficult to be a perennial contender.
Speaker 1: And I know if you're not. I don't know if
Speaker 1: there are a ton of Devin Booker fans, but like,
Speaker 1: not that people dislike him, but if you are a
Speaker 1: Devin Booker fan, you're probably like, dude, we made the
Speaker 1: finals and then the next year we had the best
Speaker 1: record in basketball and got clocked by Luca. Like stuff happens,
Speaker 1: and that Maybe that's correct. Maybe I'm being a little
Speaker 1: too harsh. I just feel like I feel like he is,
Speaker 1: you know, a fair tick beneath Tatum, and Tatum was
Speaker 1: able to do it with this unbelievable, you know, very
Speaker 1: well put together team around him. I don't see how
Speaker 1: Booker's ever going to be in that position. And if
Speaker 1: he were he's not quite as good as Tatum, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And so like the So that's
Speaker 1: not that he couldn't have you know, had if you
Speaker 1: had put him with if you had flip flopped him
Speaker 1: in Tatum. I think the Sons are a little better
Speaker 1: and I think the Celtics are a little worse. But
Speaker 1: the Celtics are still contenders with him as their best player.
Speaker 1: So I guess that's what I'm saying. If he's your
Speaker 1: best player, you need him an awesome situation, right, and
Speaker 1: if he's your if he's your second best player, you're great.
Speaker 1: And I just don't know what Phoenix gonna do. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go to the other contract.
Speaker 2: Yeah, chet has joined SGA and shining, signing a big extension.
Speaker 2: JADAU is bound to come soon, but teams with three
Speaker 2: max players in the past have struggled and even now
Speaker 2: to stay competitive and keep competing and staying together.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you think this could be a good thing for
Speaker 2: OKC or is or is it a bad thing for him?
Speaker 1: Well? Listen, I hate the fact that in the new NBA,
Speaker 1: whenever somebody signs a deal, you're like, oh, second apron
Speaker 1: clock is ticking, like better keep winning now, because you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to break it down. I don't like that.
Speaker 1: That is not to me as much of a concern
Speaker 1: for Oklahoma City because Chet's contract won't kick in for
Speaker 1: another year. Jadub Who's gonna get this big extension, his
Speaker 1: contract won't kick in for another year. And Shay's on
Speaker 1: his second contract, but the new one, the third contract
Speaker 1: that Shay just signed, which is the huge one, that
Speaker 1: that won't kick in for another couple of years. So listen,
Speaker 1: will this mean that a year from now they probably
Speaker 1: have to expect Trey Dort or lose Hartenstein something like that. Yes,
Speaker 1: should the Thunders still be in good shape? Yes? Did
Speaker 1: Chet just prove to us, if I'm your third best player,
Speaker 1: you can be the best team in the league and
Speaker 1: win a championship. Absolutely? Would I have paid him right now? No,
Speaker 1: I would have wanted to see another year because I
Speaker 1: I think Chet is probably underrated. Not probably, he is
Speaker 1: definitely underrated if you just look at the box score stuff,
Speaker 1: because his biggest valued OKAC is on the defensive end.
Speaker 1: He does provide you know, a guy who's taller than
Speaker 1: seven feet that can shoot threes as well as he does,
Speaker 1: and seems to be totally comfortable in that role, doesn't
Speaker 1: mind that he is. You know, they expected Chet to
Speaker 1: be the second best player and Jada to be the
Speaker 1: third best player. That has totally flipped and I don't
Speaker 1: see it flipping back. And Chet's been totally fine with
Speaker 1: it and be selfless. I give him a lot of
Speaker 1: credit for that. But the way this can go sideways
Speaker 1: on OKAC is and you can be like, well, this
Speaker 1: is the case for every team is if one of
Speaker 1: those three guys misses a bunch of time with injury
Speaker 1: and your tied to him, and Chet is definitively a
Speaker 1: significant injury risk, and you're laughing because you think this
Speaker 1: is purely my I don't trust the super skinny guys thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, but kind of falling back on that little bit.
Speaker 1: But yeah, except except he has missed. He's been in
Speaker 1: the NBA for three years. He's missed half of the
Speaker 1: time because of two kind of nondescript moments that resulted
Speaker 1: in catastrophic injury for him. Before he played his first
Speaker 1: NBA game. He's playing in that summer league, not even
Speaker 1: summer league, that basically pick up game against Lebron and
Speaker 1: his foot gets broken and then this year he falls
Speaker 1: down and breaks his hip like that, that is that's concerning.
Speaker 1: So I just I I I don't think it would
Speaker 1: have been unreasonable for Oklahoma City to say to Chet,
Speaker 1: we love you, man, and we appreciate everything you've done,
Speaker 1: but we need to see another healthy season like you're
Speaker 1: thus far. It has been rookie year out with injury,
Speaker 1: Year two fully healthy the whole way. Year three missed
Speaker 1: fifty games with injury.
Speaker 2: It would have made a lot more sense for them
Speaker 2: to be hastier with extending Jado of over chat, that
Speaker 2: doesn't that does make sense given.
Speaker 1: Well listen and I'm and I'm sure this is just
Speaker 1: a Jadob's gonna get extended momentarily, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like that, that to me is a no doubter, and
Speaker 1: I understand people that probably I think there are some
Speaker 1: people in the league maybe that believe Chet's upside still
Speaker 1: is higher than Jadob's because of his height, because of
Speaker 1: you know, the idea behind him, because he was a
Speaker 1: top two pick of the draft and could have gone
Speaker 1: number one. But I I would I would have waited.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a disaster. I don't think like, oh,
Speaker 1: my god, what are they thinking? But I personally would
Speaker 1: have waited. That's how I would have done it. They
Speaker 1: decided not to happy for Chet. He's a champion, you
Speaker 1: know the I'm gonna say one other thing about the
Speaker 1: Chet thing, which is not necessarily like I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's smart analysis, but it is just kind of
Speaker 1: how I look at it. If we look at the
Speaker 1: three drafts his draft, in the draft before him, in
Speaker 1: the draft after him, where do we think he is
Speaker 1: going to stack up amongst those players? So the draft
Speaker 1: after him, there's Wimby, who I would expect not a
Speaker 1: Wimby already is better than Chet, and I like that
Speaker 1: to me is pretty clear, and Wimby has best player
Speaker 1: in the league upside. I I don't know where you
Speaker 1: stand on this, demonsee. If you were to ask me
Speaker 1: who is going to be the better player over the
Speaker 1: next decade, I would take Amen Thompson over Chet Rockets Thompson.
Speaker 1: Is that do you agree or disagree?
Speaker 3: I mean, I like what I've seen from Thompson.
Speaker 1: This is I mean, I I think he has needs
Speaker 1: a shot, which, by the way, is why you might
Speaker 1: be like no, and his he's you know, his biggest
Speaker 1: value right now is defense, and some would argue Chet's
Speaker 1: a better defender right now just because of the size.
Speaker 1: But I personally would have Am and Thompson over Brandon
Speaker 1: Miller's put up numbers. But we haven't been able to
Speaker 1: see Brandon Miller on you know, a competitive team yet,
Speaker 1: so you would have to probably slot Chat ahead of him.
Speaker 1: But to me, they're similar. I think Powlo's clearly better
Speaker 1: than Chet, so I would put Pollo who was the
Speaker 1: number one pick, and j dub who's on the same team,
Speaker 1: also better than Chet. So there's four and then the
Speaker 1: draft before who are the guys I'm looking at it?
Speaker 1: Cade I feel is better than Chet, and not I
Speaker 1: feel I know is better than Chet. And the other
Speaker 1: two guys in the discussion are Shingoon and Mobiley. I
Speaker 1: personally think both those guys are better than Chet. So
Speaker 1: that's seven guys. So here's the only reason I bring
Speaker 1: it up. When we get back to the max contract
Speaker 1: thing like if of your little mini miniature and I'll
Speaker 1: put I'll slot Chat ahead again of Scottie Barnes of
Speaker 1: Dyson Daniels. I think that one's probably pretty obvious of
Speaker 1: Brandon Miller. If you're the eighth best guy of your
Speaker 1: draft in the two draft surrounding you getting paid the max. Like,
Speaker 1: it could get tricky, that's all. That's the That's the
Speaker 1: only point I would make there, Not that it will
Speaker 1: it just it could get tricky on you, all right.
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Speaker 1: All right, demons, let's uh jump you know we'll stay
Speaker 1: where we're at. Uh. Let's go to the free post
Speaker 1: free agency stuff quickly.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: So the smoke is clearing from all these NBA offseason moves.
Speaker 2: The Rockets are building around Katie. The Bucks pulled off
Speaker 2: some moves to keep you Honess happy or unhappy, depending
Speaker 2: on who you ask, And now the Nuggets just got deeper.
Speaker 2: Who's whose off seasons did you like the most? And
Speaker 2: who's you like the least?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: The least is the Pelicans because they've traded away next
Speaker 1: year's pick. I just hate it so much. Here are
Speaker 1: the teams who I really do like what the did
Speaker 1: this offseason. I like what the Knicks we're able to
Speaker 1: do with limited flexibility. And I like Mike Brown as
Speaker 1: a coach, so I like what they did. I like
Speaker 1: the magic adding Desmond Baye and saying screw it, we're
Speaker 1: gonna go for it. So I like what they did.
Speaker 1: I thought that he basically manifesting Norman Powell on the
Speaker 1: team without giving up anything of significant value was a
Speaker 1: pat Riley master stroke. So I like what they did.
Speaker 1: I love the Hawks offseason, from the player acquisition to
Speaker 1: most notably getting that extra pick from New Orleans. I
Speaker 1: think the Hawks really positioned themselves quite well. I love
Speaker 1: what Denver did. Love it, especially now that Valanchounas is
Speaker 1: coming over and they guaranteed a second year. I guess
Speaker 1: so now he's gonna come over. So I really like
Speaker 1: what Denver did, and I od they love what Houston
Speaker 1: did in adding Durant, and I thought not over paying
Speaker 1: for him at all and keeping the full flexibility. The
Speaker 1: Milwaukee thing we've talked about a bit, and he is interesting.
Speaker 1: But Jannis was on a stream with one of my
Speaker 1: new friends, I show speed. They could just call him speedy.
Speaker 1: They just call him speed. I know what.
Speaker 3: They called.
Speaker 1: What do they not call him speedy? Am I corny
Speaker 1: for that? You can laugh at me.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, that's fine. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm honestly like a shame that I know
Speaker 2: like what they're calling him. But yeah, it's great, dude,
Speaker 2: I really I think.
Speaker 1: He's spent a lot of time with him. Yeah, him
Speaker 1: and Kai. They spent a little time with Kai as well.
Speaker 1: And hold on, there's I don't want to leave this
Speaker 1: other kid out uh, and I want to get his
Speaker 1: name right because I kept getting it wrong. Uh. And
Speaker 1: so I spent time with him Kai and ty Lil
Speaker 1: uh Hello, and they were all they were all super
Speaker 1: dope Kai Kai in particular. But regardless, Yannis is doing
Speaker 1: a like a stream with speed, like as we speak
Speaker 1: in Greece, and the producers have said, I need to
Speaker 1: listen to this, to this sid where he said he'll
Speaker 1: probably stay in Milwaukee. They said, I need to listen
Speaker 1: to it and judge it from there. So let's do it.
Speaker 1: So you've seen in Milwaukee, Uh, probably probably we'll see
Speaker 1: see probably a lot more woke. Yeah, mm hmmm. I
Speaker 1: don't think Yannis was ready for that question. I'll be
Speaker 1: honest to Speed for being like, let's just get let
Speaker 1: you know, let me just throw it at you. And
Speaker 1: that was like real, that's a real something I'm bad at.
Speaker 1: If you're like interviewing someone just quick to the point questions,
Speaker 1: not over talking the way a lot of people would do.
Speaker 1: That is give him a lot of time to know
Speaker 1: it's coming in your long wind set up, be like, well, y' honest,
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of speculation, you know about your future.
Speaker 1: Milwaukee made some moves this offseason. They you know, waved
Speaker 1: and stretched Damian Lowe. They brought in Miles Turner. Do
Speaker 1: you think you've done enough to compete for a championship?
Speaker 1: And will you be a Milwaukee Buck?
Speaker 3: Nick? Sure?
Speaker 1: That gives him all the time to credit to Speed
Speaker 1: for its being like so you say in Milwaukee.
Speaker 3: He doesn't. He's also not in the media like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's obviously correct like that supports he exactly,
Speaker 2: He's just shooting.
Speaker 1: Which I think probably worked in his favor. Before we
Speaker 1: get to the Joe Burrow thing, the producers tell me,
Speaker 1: uh Anna Sabolenka just lost, so American Amanda on a Samova,
Speaker 1: pardon me, will play in the Wimbledon finals. And I
Speaker 1: saw that earlier and then I laughed because I have
Speaker 1: a buddy. I don't want to say who it is
Speaker 1: because I don't know. I don't want to put his
Speaker 1: business out there. But someone you guys would know, who
Speaker 1: texted me yesterday. So I need some advice. I parlayed
Speaker 1: Sabolenka with three four, with three of the four remaining
Speaker 1: semi finalists to win at all. So if I cash,
Speaker 1: this is what he wrote, If I cash out all
Speaker 1: of my bets the cat. The pay on the cash
Speaker 1: out for all of the bets is forty eight hundred bucks.
Speaker 1: He's like, but if Sabolenka wins and Joker wins, I
Speaker 1: win eleven thousand, and Center wins, I win six, and
Speaker 1: Alcarez wins, I win ten thousand. So he's texting me
Speaker 1: to ask me if he should cash out, cash out
Speaker 1: and guarantee five grand basically, which is a hedge against
Speaker 1: Sablenka losing. But if Sablenka wins, he was almost guaranteed,
Speaker 1: you know, six till eleven thousand, and I text back,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna say, Let that ride. And
Speaker 1: he writes back, but if Sablenka loses, I lose all
Speaker 1: the bets and I'm up right now, I can lock
Speaker 1: in being up a lot. And I wrote back, cashing
Speaker 1: out is for cowards. And Sabolenka lost a few, you
Speaker 1: know an hour ago. Well listen, I mean he wins something,
Speaker 1: you lose them. You don't cash out bets. They don't
Speaker 1: offer you the cash out because it's what's smart for you.
Speaker 1: You don't just I stand by the advice. I feel
Speaker 1: badly about it, though, I'm gonna I'm about to send
Speaker 1: him the yikes emoji. Hold on, I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's gonna be in the mood for it,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna text him the yikes. There we go.
Speaker 1: He then wrote in reply to me, saying, let it ride.
Speaker 1: This is what my heart says. But Sablenka was in
Speaker 1: deep bleep the last two matches. Lol, we don't listen
Speaker 1: to me. What do you want from me? All right,
Speaker 1: let's do Joe Burrow real quick and then move on.
Speaker 2: Uh So we saw Spags called Burrow the second best
Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL on season two of the Quarterback
Speaker 2: Season two off Quarterback.
Speaker 3: That was back in September, and then obviously.
Speaker 2: There's been a quarterback since then that has beaten Malmes
Speaker 2: on the biggest stage possible.
Speaker 3: Mind you burrowed and you made the playoffs last year.
Speaker 1: Has Burrow lost his.
Speaker 3: Crowd as being the most the biggest threat to Malmes?
Speaker 1: I do think that right that, right now, the second
Speaker 1: best quarterback in football is Josh Allen, And I think
Speaker 1: that you'll like this take Demante. I think I said
Speaker 1: on the show the other day that even if this
Speaker 1: wouldn't be my personal rankings. If because what you hear
Speaker 1: all the time is because Randy Moss and out a
Speaker 1: tweet that was, like, the top four is Mahomes, Josh, Lamar,
Speaker 1: and Joe who's number five? And that seems to be
Speaker 1: everybody's top four those four guys, And what I said
Speaker 1: on the show was, if we are going to be fair,
Speaker 1: I think that it has to be at this point
Speaker 1: either like a locked in top three that Burrow is
Speaker 1: not a part of, or a locked in top five
Speaker 1: that Burrow and Hurts are a part of. Because that Patrick,
Speaker 1: Josh Lamar, they if they're healthy, they and even if
Speaker 1: they're both Josh and Patrick are always healthy, and Lamar
Speaker 1: has been held the last couple of years. Their teams
Speaker 1: are in the playoffs. Every year they've won at least
Speaker 1: one in Josh's case and multiple in Patrick and Lamar's
Speaker 1: case league MVPs. They're the best three quarterbacks in football.
Speaker 1: If we are going to put Joe Burrow in that
Speaker 1: tier based on the fact that he has these unbelievable
Speaker 1: numbers and he once beat Patrick in the playoffs, then
Speaker 1: the counter to that is, well, then the other guy
Speaker 1: who beat Patrick in the playoffs, who's active who doesn't
Speaker 1: have these unbelievable numbers but has this unstoppable play and
Speaker 1: that whose team he's always available and his team wins.
Speaker 1: You've get like that's the flip side to the Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow coin where Joe lax and team success, Jalen lacks
Speaker 1: an individual you know, raw passing numbers. So I think
Speaker 1: the top three quarterbacks is what should be locked at
Speaker 1: this point. And Patrick won, Josh two, Lamar three, and
Speaker 1: then we can argue after. But if you are saying
Speaker 1: that the top four, it's just not fair to say
Speaker 1: Joe belongs in that group with those other guys, but
Speaker 1: Jalen doesn't when he's made the playoffs twice in his career,
Speaker 1: And so I disagree with Spags at this moment. Now,
Speaker 1: I think here's what I would question about Spags in
Speaker 1: that moment from quarterback. Did he say the same thing
Speaker 1: to Josh Allen after the conference championship game? Is that
Speaker 1: kind of his go to line with Like did he
Speaker 1: walk off fields like, hey man, aside from our guy,
Speaker 1: you're the best I am? I am a little curious
Speaker 1: about that. But also like Josh stock rose based on
Speaker 1: this year because he won a league MVP people thought
Speaker 1: the Bills weren't gonna be great, you know, and the
Speaker 1: I believed in the Bills, but other people didn't. They
Speaker 1: made it, they beat Lamar, they won a conference championship game,
Speaker 1: or they sorry, they got to a conference championship.
Speaker 2: So this next year, it'll be very easy to power
Speaker 2: rank these quarterback Right now, I think it's a little
Speaker 2: difficult given how the past few years have gone. After
Speaker 2: next year, I feel like it'll be a lot more clear,
Speaker 2: Like will Jalen Hurts repeat what happens with Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow if you don't make the playoffs again, like
Speaker 2: you're definitely not.
Speaker 3: There was Josh Allen going to be sure?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there are there are scenarios where it
Speaker 1: becomes easier. There's also scenarios where it becomes way messier,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like the the that Jaden
Speaker 1: has a monster individual year numbers like you did last year,
Speaker 1: but the defense isn't as good. Jalen has a great
Speaker 1: I'm just painting a weird scenario. They open up the
Speaker 1: offense and Jalen Hurts actually puts up crazy good numbers,
Speaker 1: but they lose their first playoff game. You know what?
Speaker 1: I mean the Burrow. Burrow puts up the exact year
Speaker 1: he had last year, the most like it's a carbon
Speaker 1: copy year. The offense is one of the best in football.
Speaker 1: He's unbelievable. He has all these great numbers. The team
Speaker 1: wins nine games to the defense is terrible, like the
Speaker 1: there are things that could make it complicated. All right,
Speaker 1: let's do some listener questions.
Speaker 2: Oh uh, Curtis asks who will have the better stat
Speaker 2: line tonight, Bronnie James or Cooper Flag.
Speaker 1: Uh. I think the Cooper Flags the way way way better.
Speaker 1: Bet Like, listen, Cooper, I know that Brownie's in year two.
Speaker 1: Cooper Flag's better player than Bronnie. I think that's the
Speaker 1: undeniable by any stretch. Bronnie also coming off a rough
Speaker 1: summer league game. He was good in the first one,
Speaker 1: tough in the second one. Uh. Now there's a chance
Speaker 1: that for Flag, you know, a little first summer league game, jitters,
Speaker 1: But I think he'll be good. I think he'll be
Speaker 1: really good.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: Next the Collins uh Collins eleven ass Nick's any tips
Speaker 2: for book sales to improve your poker game?
Speaker 1: So the let me look up book books or sites.
Speaker 1: I think you wrote all right, So for it depends
Speaker 1: on how nerdy you want to get with it. Uh now,
Speaker 1: full disclosure, I'm a part you know, in my owners
Speaker 1: too strong investor in this company. But Octopi Poker to
Speaker 1: me is the best poker site as far as if
Speaker 1: you want to do like GTO stuff and training and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. If you're as far as books, I
Speaker 1: think that Modernoker Theory by Michael Assavado is a really
Speaker 1: good book if you're trying to again do the GTO stuff,
Speaker 1: if you're just trying to you know, not worried about
Speaker 1: GTO but just avoid you know, cataclysmic mistakes or learn
Speaker 1: the basics. I think Daniel Negranu's YouTube page that has
Speaker 1: a bunch of basically like tutorials on how to play
Speaker 1: this game or how to play these spots at a
Speaker 1: you know, easy to access level. It's the poker version
Speaker 1: demanse of what the videos I had you watch on
Speaker 1: our way to go golfing? Oh my gosh, we never
Speaker 1: talked about this. Demonte golfed, Yeah, Demonte golfed it the
Speaker 1: Royal Hawaiian Golf Club, one of the most beautiful places
Speaker 1: I've ever been to. And this is a major announcement
Speaker 1: for the listeners. Demanse new found respect for golf.
Speaker 3: Definitely new found respect. It's it's tough. I mean, dude,
Speaker 3: I don't know what you call these, like your cuticles
Speaker 3: or something like that. These things were bleeding on my
Speaker 3: finger after we were done.
Speaker 1: That's why people sometimes wear gloves.
Speaker 2: He didn't wear gloves, I mean. And being able to
Speaker 2: play there at for the first time I also thought.
Speaker 3: Was super cool.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was really cool. Yeah, it's amazing, I mean,
Speaker 1: Demanse and I just so, I'm a bad golfer. Demante
Speaker 1: literally had never played ever in his life. And the
Speaker 1: driving range was closed, so we couldn't warm up, couldn't practice,
Speaker 1: no lessons, So I just booked the last possible allowable
Speaker 1: tea time, four thirty in the afternoon. That way, no
Speaker 1: one would be behind us and we could just hack
Speaker 1: around out there. Demanse hit one really good shot, I
Speaker 1: hit three. Yeah, I hit three really good shots, and
Speaker 1: then everything else was just a cataclysm. But it was
Speaker 1: so much fun. And obviously do it next time. It
Speaker 1: was great, all right, great.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, no go ahead, Daniel The Daniel E question
Speaker 2: on your is it possible? Lebron didn't welcome Aiden to
Speaker 2: La because he wants to make sure everyone knows that
Speaker 2: it's Luca's team now kind of.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the friendliest way to look at it. Maybe,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe the I didn't I did not think
Speaker 1: of that. Maybe I should have included that in the
Speaker 1: actual possibilities. I didn't think of that. But that's that's
Speaker 1: maybe the friendly, the kindest way to look at it,
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