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Speaker 1: Welcome in What Driving the Gred Episode three forty seven.

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Speaker 1: This episode of What Driving the Grid is brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Boost Mobile. A ton to do today. We

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Speaker 1: are not on TV today and tomorrow because of the

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Speaker 1: Euro Soccer tournament, so we will be This will be

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Speaker 1: the only place that I'll be on the air today

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Speaker 1: and then a little schedule adjustment next week. Instead of

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Speaker 1: Tuesday Pod, we will do a Monday Pod. The reason

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Speaker 1: for that well, I will explain in just a moment.

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Speaker 1: Demand's a great to see you, you know, the approaching

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Speaker 1: weekend birthday major plans anything, just probably just locate with

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Speaker 1: the friends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing, nothing too crazy. Yeah, maybe okay Saturday or something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's also the late twenties birthdays are they all

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Speaker 1: kind of run together? Twenty five is something and third

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Speaker 1: is something. But twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty

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Speaker 1: nine maybe a little something because you feel like that's

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Speaker 1: my last year in their twenties. Yeah. But yeah, so

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Speaker 1: this is if we were to power rank birthdays, twenty

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Speaker 1: seven is pretty bad, like not bad, but it's just

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Speaker 1: it's you know, it doesn't make very very low on

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Speaker 1: the totem pole. And for your birthdays up to this point,

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Speaker 1: it like as far as excitement level going into it,

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Speaker 1: it might be dead last. Like I'm not trying to

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Speaker 1: rain on your like, just there's not a lot of buzz,

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Speaker 1: not a lot of you know, not a lot of

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Speaker 1: you know, discussion of this coming birthday reminder like the

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Speaker 1: subscribe to the YouTube page. Rate review all that. I

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Speaker 1: did promise a major personal announcement professional announcement that's coming momentarily.

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Speaker 1: But before we get to that, straight the voicemail brought

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Speaker 1: to you by our friends at let me turn this

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Speaker 1: Nikola jokicch not signing his extension yet. This is to me,

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Speaker 1: I'll just do it very quickly. Actually, a non story

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Speaker 1: that is pure. It is not about don't worry Daniel,

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Speaker 1: lack of faith in the franchise or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: It is simply he can make more money waiting one year,

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Speaker 1: so it makes sense for him to wait one year. Also,

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Speaker 1: Shaye and Angel Reese named the NBA two K cover athletes.

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Speaker 1: I've got to say I'm a little confused about the

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Speaker 1: Angel Rey's piece of this, and it has nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with Angel Rees versus the FISA, Collier versus Caitlin

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Speaker 1: legitimate question of like the physical video game is going

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Speaker 1: to have Shae on the cover. So when they're like

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Speaker 1: Angel Reese is on the it is she. There is

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Speaker 1: not a w NBA two K game, it is it

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Speaker 1: to be able to buy a physical video game with

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that's how I worked in previous there's

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Speaker 2: because I feel like there was a year that, like Kobe,

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Speaker 3: It's just like different covers, I'm pretty sure.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I thought it was just like a digital

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Speaker 1: like the news, like the Sports Illustrated cover athlete, when

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Speaker 1: you can't go physically buy a Sports Illustrated anymore like that.

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Speaker 1: It was just an internet image. I didn't know you

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Speaker 1: could get pardon me, the physical media and one of

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Speaker 1: them would have Angel on the cover. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: well that's that is more interesting to me and cooler

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Speaker 1: for her. And she actually has been playing really well

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Speaker 1: as of late, and by the way, smart of two

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Speaker 1: then you know what I mean, be like, hey, why

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Speaker 1: the Batmobile, which is a sick headline. Thank you as

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Speaker 1: always to our friends at boost Mobile for straight to

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Speaker 1: Before we get to the actual show, I promised on

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Speaker 1: Tuesday that I was going to have an announcement off

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Speaker 1: the top of the show today And for some of you,

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Speaker 1: I think you will find this to be incredibly cool.

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Speaker 1: For some of you you will not care at all.

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Speaker 1: And for some folks probably less so. Folks that are

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Speaker 1: that on the back end of this. But next week

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Speaker 1: I am going back to Vegas because for the World

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Speaker 1: For me, this is this will be one of the

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Speaker 1: five coolest moments of my professional career, full stop. This

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Speaker 1: been trying to set the table for for the better

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Speaker 1: a possibility over the last five years. Some people know,

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Speaker 1: Phil Helm youth heads up in a poker tournament for

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Speaker 1: me putting down fifty thousand dollars when I'm a huge underdog,

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Speaker 1: It wasn't that I had more money than you thought,

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Speaker 1: It was that that to me was an investment and

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Speaker 1: Daniel and the legendary Nick Shulman, and not that those

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Speaker 1: Ali and Jeanne, that maybe one day I could add

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Speaker 1: poker version of the World Series, because it is called

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Speaker 1: the World Series of Poker main event, and the fact

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Speaker 1: it is a lifelong dream of mine to be a

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Speaker 1: and I don't you know, Brent Hanks is going to

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Speaker 1: desperately that Nick Shulman, who, in addition to being my

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Speaker 1: If you've been watching the World Series of Poker, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you are wondering, as Jared Blesnik, who has been

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Speaker 1: My answer is I hope so. And now if you're

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Speaker 1: I I've done a fair amount of poker commentary before,

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Speaker 1: The There are a few things professionally that are on

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Speaker 1: It will They are long days. That is a lot

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Speaker 1: Candani and Brent Hanks and Carrie Kats and Jeff Platt

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Speaker 3: I'm not texting him. I'm not welcome the team.

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Speaker 1: All right, demonte A couple extensions in the NBA I

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Speaker 1: found pretty noteworthy. Let's get to both of them. We'll

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Speaker 1: start in Phoenix.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Suns have locked up Devin Booker with

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Speaker 2: a record two year extension through twenty thirty. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: they might have fleeced the future Suns, but they have

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Speaker 2: Devin Booker at least, right is there? What's their situation now?

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing I and this also sorry to

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Speaker 1: you know, as brew once said to me, he's like, Nick,

486
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: everything isn't about Lebron, and it's like, well, in the NBA,

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00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: it kind of is the just you know, Devin Booker

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00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: another player objectively not as good as current Lebron James,

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Speaker 1: who makes more money than Lebron James. Right now, forget

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Speaker 1: the extension and nobody cares. Nobody's like, oh my god,

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00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: you just can't win. If you're paying Devin Booker fifty

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Speaker 1: three million, now, they can't win. But nobody blames Devin

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Speaker 1: Booker for that.

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Speaker 3: But the.

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Speaker 1: Two year, one hundred and thirty three million is the

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Speaker 1: projected extension him approaching, Devin Booker approaching becoming a million

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Speaker 1: dollar a game player in his age thirty three season.

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Speaker 1: So Devin Booker now is on the books for five years.

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Speaker 1: Let's like if they if his contract was starting right now,

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Speaker 1: let me do this math real quick. One ten one

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Speaker 1: seventy one, one seventy one plus one thirty three, three

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Speaker 1: h four. He's on the books now for the next

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Speaker 1: five years, five years, three hundred and four million, an

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Speaker 1: average of sixty million a year. The year by year

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Speaker 1: salaries are fifty three, fifty seven, sixty one, sixty four,

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Speaker 1: sixty nine.

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Speaker 3: Would you say two years for what.

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Speaker 1: The did? I? I said two for one thirty three

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Speaker 1: two years. I So that's I I think it is.

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Speaker 1: These are So what is this is a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a media note. I suppose the modern sports media,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to transaction reporting, is always going to

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Speaker 1: report the maximum pop possible money that a deal could be,

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Speaker 1: and that is like, let me see if I can

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Speaker 1: even find it. Well, so it this is these deals.

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Speaker 1: He is getting a percentage of the cap. Essentially with

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Speaker 1: these max deals are you're like, you're guarante if you

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Speaker 1: sign the TRUEMAX, you know you are guaranteed in this

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Speaker 1: year this percentage of the cap and thirty five percent

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Speaker 1: you know. Plus essentially it is an estimate of what

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Speaker 1: the cap will be. And then there also might be

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Speaker 1: a few small ish incentives. So this will be at

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Speaker 1: least one thirty three I guess it could be one

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Speaker 1: forty five. My point is the the reporting on all

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Speaker 1: these guys deals always report the top end instead of

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Speaker 1: the bottom end because it's not a lot of actual reporting.

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Speaker 1: It's receiving mass text messages from agents, and the agents

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Speaker 1: want the biggest number possible out there, So the somewhere

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Speaker 1: between one thirty three and one five over the next

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Speaker 1: couple of years. I didn't mean to contradict what you

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Speaker 1: had said. I just was looking at it. I was

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Speaker 1: looking at it from spotrack rather than the ESPN article

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Speaker 1: and the reporting. But regardless, here is the the question

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Speaker 1: that I have for anyone, uh, just kind of a

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Speaker 1: thought exercise. Really, does if the Suns were to want

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Speaker 1: to trade Devin Booker, does this make him more or

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Speaker 1: less attractive to a team? And by that, I mean

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Speaker 1: does the fact that you have him locked up for

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Speaker 1: five more years? Uh? And you know so, they obviously

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00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,959
Speaker 1: wouldn't be trading him anytime soon, so call it four

541
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Speaker 1: more years and you don't have to worry about him leaving.

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Speaker 1: How does that counteract the fact that Devin Booker will

543
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Speaker 1: be making again the most money any player in the

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Speaker 1: league's allowed to make. And the answer might be no,

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Speaker 1: Devin Booker is an All NBA player. He's worth the max.

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Speaker 1: You pay him the max. Got it? But do we

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Speaker 1: think that if like, is there reason to believe that

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Speaker 1: if Devin Booker is the best player on your team,

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Speaker 1: you're going to be a contending team. Now again, these

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Speaker 1: are actual questions, because the argument might be he literally

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Speaker 1: was in the finals a few years ago. My counterpoint

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Speaker 1: to that would be, I don't think he the best

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Speaker 1: player on that team. I think Chris Paul was. But regardless,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe you know that certainly is arguable that he

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Speaker 1: was and there was the best player. So it's Devin

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Speaker 1: Booker's awesome. You just need to build the right stuff

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00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: around him. Maybe the counterpoint to the counterpoint is in

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00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: the new era of the second apron NBA, how easy

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00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: is that to do? Now again, I would top of

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00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: my head, what is Devin Booker the thirteenth best player

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Speaker 1: in the NBA? You know, at best ninth, at worst fifteenth,

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Speaker 1: somewhere in there. Those guys already as far as like

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Speaker 1: building around him, you mean previously he's had start around him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Hit the he and Durant thing not working is a

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Speaker 1: knock on both of them. Pretty significantly, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, and how badly it went. I put more

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Speaker 1: of that on the the general dysfunction of the team

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Speaker 1: and the fact that, oh and this is funny in

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Speaker 1: a second, the general dysfunction of the team and the

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Speaker 1: fact that it was just a terribly built roster. So

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't kill him because he individually played

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Speaker 1: well and he has wanted to be there, and he's

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Speaker 1: kind of done right by them. But bigger picture, de Monsey,

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Speaker 1: I just think the Suns are as absolutely stuck as

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Speaker 1: you can get, and I don't see any realistic way

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Speaker 1: for them to dig themselves out. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: that Devin book Maybe Devin Booker, if they ended up

579
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Speaker 1: deciding to finally accept defeat in Phoenix and tear it down,

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Speaker 1: maybe you would get a massive haul for him, But

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Speaker 1: I don't think that would be enough to dig themselves

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Speaker 1: out of the hole that mattishbia is built for them,

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Speaker 1: has doug for them. I'm happy for Booker, and Booker,

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Speaker 1: you know, has been for a guy that was I

585
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Speaker 1: think he was the eleventh pick of the draft. I

586
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00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: I know he wasn't in the single digits for him

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00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: now ten years into his career, two just be his

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Speaker 1: thirteenth pick of the draft. Thank you be every single

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Speaker 1: year twenty five plus a night on good not great

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Speaker 1: efficiency and to get this type of money is a

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Speaker 1: hell of an accomplishment. It is. He is a guy

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Speaker 1: that twice in his career has made the All NBA team,

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Speaker 1: once third team and then the one you know. In

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, the year coming off the finals, Berth

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Speaker 1: was All NBA First Team, and he's been good in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. I do think because of the new really

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Speaker 1: unfortunate realities of the CBA, we are in a weird

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Speaker 1: spot where a guy like that getting the MAX doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel as clean as it once did. Like listen, if

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Speaker 1: he's the thirteenth best player in basketball, he's worth the MAX.

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00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: Those guys always have been since we've had a MAX.

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Speaker 1: Because the new CBA is so punitive and can make

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Speaker 1: it so hard to you know, keep teams together. It is,

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Speaker 1: it just feels it feels to me. Tell me if

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Speaker 1: you think this unfair demantse that if Devin Booker is

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Speaker 1: ever going to forget win a championship beyond a perennial contender.

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Speaker 1: He's going to need to be the team's say it again.

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Speaker 3: He needs to not be a max player.

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Speaker 1: No, I think he's gonna he's just gonna be a

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Speaker 1: max player like that. I think that he needs to

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Speaker 1: be the team's second best guy. Yeah, I think that's

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Speaker 1: like do I yeah, uh, I don't. I think he's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I also think if he's your best player, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be very, very difficult to be a perennial contender.

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Speaker 1: And I know if you're not. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: there are a ton of Devin Booker fans, but like,

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Speaker 1: not that people dislike him, but if you are a

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Speaker 1: Devin Booker fan, you're probably like, dude, we made the

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Speaker 1: finals and then the next year we had the best

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Speaker 1: record in basketball and got clocked by Luca. Like stuff happens,

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Speaker 1: and that Maybe that's correct. Maybe I'm being a little

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Speaker 1: too harsh. I just feel like I feel like he is,

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Speaker 1: you know, a fair tick beneath Tatum, and Tatum was

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Speaker 1: able to do it with this unbelievable, you know, very

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Speaker 1: well put together team around him. I don't see how

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Speaker 1: Booker's ever going to be in that position. And if

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Speaker 1: he were he's not quite as good as Tatum, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, And so like the So that's

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Speaker 1: not that he couldn't have you know, had if you

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Speaker 1: had put him with if you had flip flopped him

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Speaker 1: in Tatum. I think the Sons are a little better

633
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Speaker 1: and I think the Celtics are a little worse. But

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Speaker 1: the Celtics are still contenders with him as their best player.

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Speaker 1: So I guess that's what I'm saying. If he's your

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Speaker 1: best player, you need him an awesome situation, right, and

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Speaker 1: if he's your if he's your second best player, you're great.

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Speaker 1: And I just don't know what Phoenix gonna do. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's go to the other contract.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, chet has joined SGA and shining, signing a big extension.

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Speaker 2: JADAU is bound to come soon, but teams with three

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Speaker 2: max players in the past have struggled and even now

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00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 2: to stay competitive and keep competing and staying together.

644
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

645
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: Do you think this could be a good thing for

646
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: OKC or is or is it a bad thing for him?

647
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: Well? Listen, I hate the fact that in the new NBA,

648
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: whenever somebody signs a deal, you're like, oh, second apron

649
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: clock is ticking, like better keep winning now, because you're

650
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 1: gonna have to break it down. I don't like that.

651
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: That is not to me as much of a concern

652
00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: for Oklahoma City because Chet's contract won't kick in for

653
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: another year. Jadub Who's gonna get this big extension, his

654
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: contract won't kick in for another year. And Shay's on

655
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: his second contract, but the new one, the third contract

656
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: that Shay just signed, which is the huge one, that

657
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 1: that won't kick in for another couple of years. So listen,

658
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: will this mean that a year from now they probably

659
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: have to expect Trey Dort or lose Hartenstein something like that. Yes,

660
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: should the Thunders still be in good shape? Yes? Did

661
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: Chet just prove to us, if I'm your third best player,

662
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: you can be the best team in the league and

663
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: win a championship. Absolutely? Would I have paid him right now? No,

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00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: I would have wanted to see another year because I

665
00:46:53,800 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: I think Chet is probably underrated. Not probably, he is

666
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 1: definitely underrated if you just look at the box score stuff,

667
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: because his biggest valued OKAC is on the defensive end.

668
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: He does provide you know, a guy who's taller than

669
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: seven feet that can shoot threes as well as he does,

670
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: and seems to be totally comfortable in that role, doesn't

671
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: mind that he is. You know, they expected Chet to

672
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: be the second best player and Jada to be the

673
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: third best player. That has totally flipped and I don't

674
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: see it flipping back. And Chet's been totally fine with

675
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: it and be selfless. I give him a lot of

676
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: credit for that. But the way this can go sideways

677
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: on OKAC is and you can be like, well, this

678
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: is the case for every team is if one of

679
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: those three guys misses a bunch of time with injury

680
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: and your tied to him, and Chet is definitively a

681
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: significant injury risk, and you're laughing because you think this

682
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: is purely my I don't trust the super skinny guys thing.

683
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 3: I mean, but kind of falling back on that little bit.

684
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, except except he has missed. He's been in

685
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: the NBA for three years. He's missed half of the

686
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 1: time because of two kind of nondescript moments that resulted

687
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: in catastrophic injury for him. Before he played his first

688
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: NBA game. He's playing in that summer league, not even

689
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: summer league, that basically pick up game against Lebron and

690
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: his foot gets broken and then this year he falls

691
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: down and breaks his hip like that, that is that's concerning.

692
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: So I just I I I don't think it would

693
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: have been unreasonable for Oklahoma City to say to Chet,

694
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: we love you, man, and we appreciate everything you've done,

695
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: but we need to see another healthy season like you're

696
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: thus far. It has been rookie year out with injury,

697
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: Year two fully healthy the whole way. Year three missed

698
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: fifty games with injury.

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00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: It would have made a lot more sense for them

700
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: to be hastier with extending Jado of over chat, that

701
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 2: doesn't that does make sense given.

702
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: Well listen and I'm and I'm sure this is just

703
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: a Jadob's gonna get extended momentarily, you know what I mean?

704
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 1: Like that, that to me is a no doubter, and

705
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: I understand people that probably I think there are some

706
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: people in the league maybe that believe Chet's upside still

707
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: is higher than Jadob's because of his height, because of

708
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: you know, the idea behind him, because he was a

709
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: top two pick of the draft and could have gone

710
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: number one. But I I would I would have waited.

711
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a disaster. I don't think like, oh,

712
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: my god, what are they thinking? But I personally would

713
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: have waited. That's how I would have done it. They

714
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: decided not to happy for Chet. He's a champion, you

715
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: know the I'm gonna say one other thing about the

716
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: Chet thing, which is not necessarily like I don't know

717
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: if it's smart analysis, but it is just kind of

718
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: how I look at it. If we look at the

719
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: three drafts his draft, in the draft before him, in

720
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Speaker 1: the draft after him, where do we think he is

721
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: going to stack up amongst those players? So the draft

722
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: after him, there's Wimby, who I would expect not a

723
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: Wimby already is better than Chet, and I like that

724
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 1: to me is pretty clear, and Wimby has best player

725
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: in the league upside. I I don't know where you

726
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: stand on this, demonsee. If you were to ask me

727
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: who is going to be the better player over the

728
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: next decade, I would take Amen Thompson over Chet Rockets Thompson.

729
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: Is that do you agree or disagree?

730
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I like what I've seen from Thompson.

731
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: This is I mean, I I think he has needs

732
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: a shot, which, by the way, is why you might

733
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: be like no, and his he's you know, his biggest

734
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: value right now is defense, and some would argue Chet's

735
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 1: a better defender right now just because of the size.

736
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: But I personally would have Am and Thompson over Brandon

737
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: Miller's put up numbers. But we haven't been able to

738
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: see Brandon Miller on you know, a competitive team yet,

739
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: so you would have to probably slot Chat ahead of him.

740
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: But to me, they're similar. I think Powlo's clearly better

741
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: than Chet, so I would put Pollo who was the

742
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: number one pick, and j dub who's on the same team,

743
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: also better than Chet. So there's four and then the

744
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: draft before who are the guys I'm looking at it?

745
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: Cade I feel is better than Chet, and not I

746
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: feel I know is better than Chet. And the other

747
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: two guys in the discussion are Shingoon and Mobiley. I

748
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: personally think both those guys are better than Chet. So

749
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: that's seven guys. So here's the only reason I bring

750
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: it up. When we get back to the max contract

751
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 1: thing like if of your little mini miniature and I'll

752
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: put I'll slot Chat ahead again of Scottie Barnes of

753
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: Dyson Daniels. I think that one's probably pretty obvious of

754
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: Brandon Miller. If you're the eighth best guy of your

755
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: draft in the two draft surrounding you getting paid the max. Like,

756
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: it could get tricky, that's all. That's the That's the

757
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: only point I would make there, Not that it will

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00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: it just it could get tricky on you, all right.

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Speaker 3: All right.

779
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 2: So the smoke is clearing from all these NBA offseason moves.

780
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: The Rockets are building around Katie. The Bucks pulled off

781
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 2: some moves to keep you Honess happy or unhappy, depending

782
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 2: on who you ask, And now the Nuggets just got deeper.

783
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: Who's whose off seasons did you like the most? And

784
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: who's you like the least?

785
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 3: Like?

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00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: The least is the Pelicans because they've traded away next

787
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: year's pick. I just hate it so much. Here are

788
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: the teams who I really do like what the did

789
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: this offseason. I like what the Knicks we're able to

790
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: do with limited flexibility. And I like Mike Brown as

791
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: a coach, so I like what they did. I like

792
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: the magic adding Desmond Baye and saying screw it, we're

793
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,959
Speaker 1: gonna go for it. So I like what they did.

794
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: I thought that he basically manifesting Norman Powell on the

795
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: team without giving up anything of significant value was a

796
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,959
Speaker 1: pat Riley master stroke. So I like what they did.

797
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: I love the Hawks offseason, from the player acquisition to

798
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: most notably getting that extra pick from New Orleans. I

799
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: think the Hawks really positioned themselves quite well. I love

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00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: what Denver did. Love it, especially now that Valanchounas is

801
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: coming over and they guaranteed a second year. I guess

802
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: so now he's gonna come over. So I really like

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00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: what Denver did, and I od they love what Houston

804
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: did in adding Durant, and I thought not over paying

805
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 1: for him at all and keeping the full flexibility. The

806
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: Milwaukee thing we've talked about a bit, and he is interesting.

807
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: But Jannis was on a stream with one of my

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00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 1: new friends, I show speed. They could just call him speedy.

809
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: They just call him speed. I know what.

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00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 3: They called.

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00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: What do they not call him speedy? Am I corny

812
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: for that? You can laugh at me.

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00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

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00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, that's fine. I don't know.

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00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm honestly like a shame that I know

816
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 2: like what they're calling him. But yeah, it's great, dude,

817
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: I really I think.

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00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: He's spent a lot of time with him. Yeah, him

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00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: and Kai. They spent a little time with Kai as well.

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00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 1: And hold on, there's I don't want to leave this

821
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: other kid out uh, and I want to get his

822
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: name right because I kept getting it wrong. Uh. And

823
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: so I spent time with him Kai and ty Lil

824
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: uh Hello, and they were all they were all super

825
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: dope Kai Kai in particular. But regardless, Yannis is doing

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Speaker 1: a like a stream with speed, like as we speak

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Speaker 1: in Greece, and the producers have said, I need to

828
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: listen to this, to this sid where he said he'll

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Speaker 1: probably stay in Milwaukee. They said, I need to listen

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00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: to it and judge it from there. So let's do it.

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00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: So you've seen in Milwaukee, Uh, probably probably we'll see

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00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: see probably a lot more woke. Yeah, mm hmmm. I

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00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: don't think Yannis was ready for that question. I'll be

834
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: honest to Speed for being like, let's just get let

835
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: you know, let me just throw it at you. And

836
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: that was like real, that's a real something I'm bad at.

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00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: If you're like interviewing someone just quick to the point questions,

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00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: not over talking the way a lot of people would do.

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00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: That is give him a lot of time to know

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00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: it's coming in your long wind set up, be like, well, y' honest,

841
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of speculation, you know about your future.

842
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: Milwaukee made some moves this offseason. They you know, waved

843
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: and stretched Damian Lowe. They brought in Miles Turner. Do

844
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: you think you've done enough to compete for a championship?

845
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: And will you be a Milwaukee Buck?

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00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 3: Nick? Sure?

847
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: That gives him all the time to credit to Speed

848
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: for its being like so you say in Milwaukee.

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00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 3: He doesn't. He's also not in the media like that.

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00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: I mean, he's obviously correct like that supports he exactly,

851
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 2: He's just shooting.

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00:58:55,560 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: Which I think probably worked in his favor. Before we

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00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: get to the Joe Burrow thing, the producers tell me,

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00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: uh Anna Sabolenka just lost, so American Amanda on a Samova,

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00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: pardon me, will play in the Wimbledon finals. And I

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Speaker 1: saw that earlier and then I laughed because I have

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Speaker 1: a buddy. I don't want to say who it is

858
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: because I don't know. I don't want to put his

859
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,959
Speaker 1: business out there. But someone you guys would know, who

860
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: texted me yesterday. So I need some advice. I parlayed

861
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: Sabolenka with three four, with three of the four remaining

862
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: semi finalists to win at all. So if I cash,

863
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: this is what he wrote, If I cash out all

864
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: of my bets the cat. The pay on the cash

865
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: out for all of the bets is forty eight hundred bucks.

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00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: He's like, but if Sabolenka wins and Joker wins, I

867
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: win eleven thousand, and Center wins, I win six, and

868
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: Alcarez wins, I win ten thousand. So he's texting me

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01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: to ask me if he should cash out, cash out

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01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: and guarantee five grand basically, which is a hedge against

871
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: Sablenka losing. But if Sablenka wins, he was almost guaranteed,

872
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, six till eleven thousand, and I text back,

873
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna say, Let that ride. And

874
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: he writes back, but if Sablenka loses, I lose all

875
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 1: the bets and I'm up right now, I can lock

876
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: in being up a lot. And I wrote back, cashing

877
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: out is for cowards. And Sabolenka lost a few, you

878
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: know an hour ago. Well listen, I mean he wins something,

879
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,479
Speaker 1: you lose them. You don't cash out bets. They don't

880
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: offer you the cash out because it's what's smart for you.

881
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,479
Speaker 1: You don't just I stand by the advice. I feel

882
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: badly about it, though, I'm gonna I'm about to send

883
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: him the yikes emoji. Hold on, I mean, I don't

884
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: know if he's gonna be in the mood for it,

885
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna text him the yikes. There we go.

886
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: He then wrote in reply to me, saying, let it ride.

887
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: This is what my heart says. But Sablenka was in

888
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: deep bleep the last two matches. Lol, we don't listen

889
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: to me. What do you want from me? All right,

890
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: let's do Joe Burrow real quick and then move on.

891
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,439
Speaker 2: Uh So we saw Spags called Burrow the second best

892
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL on season two of the Quarterback

893
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 2: Season two off Quarterback.

894
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 3: That was back in September, and then obviously.

895
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 2: There's been a quarterback since then that has beaten Malmes

896
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: on the biggest stage possible.

897
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 3: Mind you burrowed and you made the playoffs last year.

898
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: Has Burrow lost his.

899
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 3: Crowd as being the most the biggest threat to Malmes?

900
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: I do think that right that, right now, the second

901
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: best quarterback in football is Josh Allen, And I think

902
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:09,479
Speaker 1: that you'll like this take Demante. I think I said

903
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: on the show the other day that even if this

904
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't be my personal rankings. If because what you hear

905
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: all the time is because Randy Moss and out a

906
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: tweet that was, like, the top four is Mahomes, Josh, Lamar,

907
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: and Joe who's number five? And that seems to be

908
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: everybody's top four those four guys, And what I said

909
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: on the show was, if we are going to be fair,

910
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: I think that it has to be at this point

911
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: either like a locked in top three that Burrow is

912
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: not a part of, or a locked in top five

913
01:02:53,760 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: that Burrow and Hurts are a part of. Because that Patrick,

914
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: Josh Lamar, they if they're healthy, they and even if

915
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: they're both Josh and Patrick are always healthy, and Lamar

916
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,919
Speaker 1: has been held the last couple of years. Their teams

917
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 1: are in the playoffs. Every year they've won at least

918
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: one in Josh's case and multiple in Patrick and Lamar's

919
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: case league MVPs. They're the best three quarterbacks in football.

920
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: If we are going to put Joe Burrow in that

921
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: tier based on the fact that he has these unbelievable

922
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: numbers and he once beat Patrick in the playoffs, then

923
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: the counter to that is, well, then the other guy

924
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: who beat Patrick in the playoffs, who's active who doesn't

925
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: have these unbelievable numbers but has this unstoppable play and

926
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: that whose team he's always available and his team wins.

927
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: You've get like that's the flip side to the Joe

928
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: Burrow coin where Joe lax and team success, Jalen lacks

929
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: an individual you know, raw passing numbers. So I think

930
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: the top three quarterbacks is what should be locked at

931
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: this point. And Patrick won, Josh two, Lamar three, and

932
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: then we can argue after. But if you are saying

933
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: that the top four, it's just not fair to say

934
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: Joe belongs in that group with those other guys, but

935
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: Jalen doesn't when he's made the playoffs twice in his career,

936
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 1: And so I disagree with Spags at this moment. Now,

937
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: I think here's what I would question about Spags in

938
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 1: that moment from quarterback. Did he say the same thing

939
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: to Josh Allen after the conference championship game? Is that

940
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: kind of his go to line with Like did he

941
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: walk off fields like, hey man, aside from our guy,

942
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: you're the best I am? I am a little curious

943
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: about that. But also like Josh stock rose based on

944
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: this year because he won a league MVP people thought

945
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: the Bills weren't gonna be great, you know, and the

946
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: I believed in the Bills, but other people didn't. They

947
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: made it, they beat Lamar, they won a conference championship game,

948
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: or they sorry, they got to a conference championship.

949
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 2: So this next year, it'll be very easy to power

950
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 2: rank these quarterback Right now, I think it's a little

951
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 2: difficult given how the past few years have gone. After

952
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 2: next year, I feel like it'll be a lot more clear,

953
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 2: Like will Jalen Hurts repeat what happens with Patrick Mahomes

954
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow if you don't make the playoffs again, like

955
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: you're definitely not.

956
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 3: There was Josh Allen going to be sure?

957
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there are there are scenarios where it

958
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: becomes easier. There's also scenarios where it becomes way messier,

959
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like the the that Jaden

960
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: has a monster individual year numbers like you did last year,

961
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: but the defense isn't as good. Jalen has a great

962
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm just painting a weird scenario. They open up the

963
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: offense and Jalen Hurts actually puts up crazy good numbers,

964
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: but they lose their first playoff game. You know what?

965
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: I mean the Burrow. Burrow puts up the exact year

966
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: he had last year, the most like it's a carbon

967
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: copy year. The offense is one of the best in football.

968
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: He's unbelievable. He has all these great numbers. The team

969
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: wins nine games to the defense is terrible, like the

970
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: there are things that could make it complicated. All right,

971
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: let's do some listener questions.

972
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 2: Oh uh, Curtis asks who will have the better stat

973
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 2: line tonight, Bronnie James or Cooper Flag.

974
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: Uh. I think the Cooper Flags the way way way better.

975
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: Bet Like, listen, Cooper, I know that Brownie's in year two.

976
01:06:56,560 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: Cooper Flag's better player than Bronnie. I think that's the

977
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 1: undeniable by any stretch. Bronnie also coming off a rough

978
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: summer league game. He was good in the first one,

979
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: tough in the second one. Uh. Now there's a chance

980
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: that for Flag, you know, a little first summer league game, jitters,

981
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: But I think he'll be good. I think he'll be

982
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 1: really good.

983
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 3: All right.

984
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 2: Next the Collins uh Collins eleven ass Nick's any tips

985
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 2: for book sales to improve your poker game?

986
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 1: So the let me look up book books or sites.

987
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: I think you wrote all right, So for it depends

988
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: on how nerdy you want to get with it. Uh now,

989
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: full disclosure, I'm a part you know, in my owners

990
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: too strong investor in this company. But Octopi Poker to

991
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: me is the best poker site as far as if

992
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 1: you want to do like GTO stuff and training and

993
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 1: stuff like that. If you're as far as books, I

994
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: think that Modernoker Theory by Michael Assavado is a really

995
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: good book if you're trying to again do the GTO stuff,

996
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: if you're just trying to you know, not worried about

997
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: GTO but just avoid you know, cataclysmic mistakes or learn

998
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: the basics. I think Daniel Negranu's YouTube page that has

999
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: a bunch of basically like tutorials on how to play

1000
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 1: this game or how to play these spots at a

1001
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: you know, easy to access level. It's the poker version

1002
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: demanse of what the videos I had you watch on

1003
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: our way to go golfing? Oh my gosh, we never

1004
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: talked about this. Demonte golfed, Yeah, Demonte golfed it the

1005
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: Royal Hawaiian Golf Club, one of the most beautiful places

1006
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: I've ever been to. And this is a major announcement

1007
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: for the listeners. Demanse new found respect for golf.

1008
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:02,799
Speaker 3: Definitely new found respect. It's it's tough. I mean, dude,

1009
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 3: I don't know what you call these, like your cuticles

1010
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 3: or something like that. These things were bleeding on my

1011
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 3: finger after we were done.

1012
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,799
Speaker 1: That's why people sometimes wear gloves.

1013
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 2: He didn't wear gloves, I mean. And being able to

1014
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 2: play there at for the first time I also thought.

1015
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 3: Was super cool.

1016
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it was really cool. Yeah, it's amazing, I mean,

1017
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: Demanse and I just so, I'm a bad golfer. Demante

1018
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: literally had never played ever in his life. And the

1019
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: driving range was closed, so we couldn't warm up, couldn't practice,

1020
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: no lessons, So I just booked the last possible allowable

1021
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: tea time, four thirty in the afternoon. That way, no

1022
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: one would be behind us and we could just hack

1023
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: around out there. Demanse hit one really good shot, I

1024
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: hit three. Yeah, I hit three really good shots, and

1025
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: then everything else was just a cataclysm. But it was

1026
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: so much fun. And obviously do it next time. It

1027
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,879
Speaker 1: was great, all right, great.

1028
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 2: Go ahead, no go ahead, Daniel The Daniel E question

1029
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 2: on your is it possible? Lebron didn't welcome Aiden to

1030
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 2: La because he wants to make sure everyone knows that

1031
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 2: it's Luca's team now kind of.

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01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the friendliest way to look at it. Maybe,

1033
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: I mean maybe the I didn't I did not think

1034
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: of that. Maybe I should have included that in the

1035
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 1: actual possibilities. I didn't think of that. But that's that's

1036
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 1: maybe the friendly, the kindest way to look at it,

1037
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: all right, Like rate, subscribe, review, no TV show today

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01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 1: or tomorrow. Check out the Poker Go live streams of

1039
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 1: the World Series of Poker Main Event which is going

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01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: on all weekend, and then I will be on the

1041
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 1: call Tuesday and Wednesday of the main event Final Table.

1042
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,879
Speaker 1: Next podcast will be Monday, not Tuesday, because I'll be traveling,

1043
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: all right, what's right? Great job to Monday, Great job volume, DraftKings,

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Speaker 1: Blue Duck and our friends of Boostmobile and everybody else.

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Speaker 1: Talk to you guys later.

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Speaker 3: What's right,