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Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast Because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot rappers. I monkey flip them

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Speaker 1: with a funky rhythm.

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Speaker 2: I be kicking musician, inflicting composition of pain. I'm like

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Speaker 2: Scarface sniffing cocaine, holding M sixteen see with the pen.

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Speaker 1: I'm extreme now, bullet holes left in my peep holes.

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Speaker 2: I'm suited up in street clothes, handy and nine and

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Speaker 2: all defeat those.

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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome to the Black Autos podcast.

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Speaker 4: Your host Rod ed Karen, and we're back on a

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Speaker 4: Tuesday afternoonday, A snowy Tuesday afternoon.

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Speaker 3: All day here. Yes, gonna be starting for a couple

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Speaker 3: of days.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 4: I went outside earlier. It was covered in white. It

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Speaker 4: was like a Sinfield casting call. And we said, look, man,

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Speaker 4: it's about that time where love is in the air.

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Speaker 1: Yes it is.

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Speaker 4: It's almost time for Valentine's And I wanted to get

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Speaker 4: one of my favorite people that I like to hear

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Speaker 4: talk about relationship stuff and all that.

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Speaker 3: Last time it came on the show.

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Speaker 4: He schooled us about, you know, some different dating points

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Speaker 4: of views when it comes to relationships and stuff.

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Speaker 3: And I enjoyed that conversation.

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Speaker 4: The audience enjoyed it thoroughly, so we invited back my

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Speaker 4: man Mike Kaplan from the Hangout with Me podcast, where

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Speaker 4: you can find it on keithandegirl dot com slash hang

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Speaker 4: You can also find his work and his dates and

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Speaker 4: whatnot a Mike Kaplin's nyqcaplin dot com and on Twitter.

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Speaker 4: He's Mike Kaplan on Twitter and one of the great

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Speaker 4: best Twitter follows I think out there, just consistently knocking

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Speaker 4: it out the park.

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Speaker 3: So what's going on, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks so much for having me back and for

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Speaker 2: the kind words. As always, I appreciate the favorites and

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Speaker 2: retweets and responses and podcast guestings and name all the

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Speaker 2: things that I appreciate I'm thankful for. I liked your

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Speaker 2: Seinfeld joke about how white it is. Sorry if that's

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Speaker 2: extra in Black History months, it's snowing like that's just

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Speaker 2: you know, God's way of saying, you know why, why

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Speaker 2: is maybe it should just be Black history. I mean night,

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Speaker 2: you've got tons of.

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Speaker 1: Every night it's Black History night.

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Speaker 3: It is true.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, happy, happy to be here, Happy to chat

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Speaker 2: with you guys about whatever you want to talk about.

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Speaker 3: So what's been going on?

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Speaker 4: Man, we haven't talked to you in probably like six

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Speaker 4: to eight months, and I heard you were working with

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Speaker 4: totally bias in W. Cabbel kind of like opening up. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: like what exactly was that job and what did you

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Speaker 2: I was one of the warm up comedians, so it

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Speaker 2: end of August, beginning of September three when they finished

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Speaker 2: in mid November, and they were supposed to just go

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Speaker 2: you know, it's a hiatus. Look, everything's a hiatus until

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Speaker 2: A hiatus between not existing and not existing.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I would.

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Speaker 2: I mean I was thrilled to be a part of it.

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Speaker 3: So are you.

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Speaker 2: I would there were definitely some jokes that I felt

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Speaker 2: You know, if you liked Brian Reagan two years ago,

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Speaker 2: I only found out it was going to be canceled.

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Speaker 2: of ten, like the last two weeks, and now they're

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00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 2: not working as well. So who knows, Maybe it's because

439
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 2: it's snowy, or we started later, or it's just these

440
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 2: people are jerks or whatever.

441
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 4: If they are dead and you're talking about death, you

442
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 4: might be hitting too close to home.

443
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, clo, why is this audience so dead the

444
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 1: actually dead people?

445
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,919
Speaker 3: I got it. Sorry guys.

446
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 2: But one thing also that was really I think helpful

447
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 2: to me, and I think a great thing that they

448
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 2: did was I would usually in the format was I

449
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 2: would come out and like welcome everybody, and then say, hey,

450
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 2: check out this highlight reel, and then they would show

451
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 2: like a five or ten five to ten minute clip.

452
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 2: It was sort of, you know, a medley, a montage

453
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 2: that's the words when it's not music, which is a

454
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 2: musical montage. To back on track, it was a montage

455
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 2: of like some of the best, the greatest hips. There

456
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 2: are episodes of the like the first season of previous

457
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 2: episodes and the very opening, the very opening, the very

458
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 2: first thing that that audience sees as comedy, Like right

459
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 2: after his check out these clips is Comeal talks about

460
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 2: Senator Aiken. I think it was one of the guy

461
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 2: Aichan who talked about legitimate rape.

462
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 1: I think that was his thing.

463
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 2: Like that, you know, if somebody is legitimately raped, then

464
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 2: the body shuts down and doesn't ever get pregnant, you

465
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 2: know that kind of thing. And it was basically come out,

466
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 2: I don't I'm going to paraphrase and might ruin it

467
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 2: and not even get the humor across. But he said

468
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 2: something like Todd aichen, if there's no such thing as

469
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 2: legitimate rape that or if legitimate rape can't really get

470
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 2: people pregnant that, well are there's so many light skinned

471
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 2: black people in Alabama?

472
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: This is totally biased.

473
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 2: The same song kicked in and you know, it shows like,

474
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 2: you know, they're totally outrageous, totally you know on PC

475
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 2: Like so if people didn't know what most of the

476
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 2: people coming to see the tapings knew what the show was,

477
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 2: number one, knew who Kamal was, knew what his voice was,

478
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 2: knew the kinds of things he was going to be

479
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 2: talking about. And if they didn't, then at that moment

480
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 2: they under if you were like, wait a minute, I

481
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 2: don't want to hear stuff like that, well then.

482
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 1: You should leave immediately or you shouldn't have.

483
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 2: Come, Like there's no way to the host of the

484
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 2: show said, you know this quote unquote outrageous thing he said,

485
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: you know, it was for humor.

486
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: For it was it was.

487
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 2: Sort of the perfect way to introduce people to be like,

488
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 2: this is what the show is about. So by the

489
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 2: time I come out and then do my warm upset

490
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 2: right after that, like, there's almost nothing that I could

491
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 2: say that I think would shock people any more than that.

492
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like, Mike is kind of and for me, Mike,

493
00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 3: and maybe it's just me.

494
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 5: When people come to a comedy show, is comedy and

495
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 5: and I guess because I like all types of comedy,

496
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 5: is weird to me when people come and fold their

497
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 5: amps and look at you and back the ass like

498
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 5: I'm not laughing today. Why did you come to a

499
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 5: comedy show and you had already made in your mind

500
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 5: you're not going to laugh? Not only one to think

501
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 5: doesn't doesn't make sense? Oh you found some people are

502
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 5: finding something to be outraged about. It's like it's a

503
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 5: comedy show.

504
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,479
Speaker 2: I was just in Minneapolis, which is one of my

505
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 2: favorite places to do comedy, and uh, and it's a

506
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 2: great They have a great art scene there. There's like

507
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: more theaters per capita than New York City in the

508
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: Minneapolis area, and they've got millions of people there. It's

509
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 2: like a smaller city, but tons of you know, art

510
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: and culture and like, there's several full time comedy clubs

511
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 2: and one of the best in the country.

512
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Speaker 1: Actme.

513
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: I love I've been there for the past three years

514
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 2: and it's always wonderful. Uh, And they bring in like

515
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,959
Speaker 2: great comedians and so a comedian from there was telling me.

516
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 2: A friend of mine was saying that he saw Nick

517
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 2: Depollo there and like, so sometimes, you know, they do

518
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: a great job of booking a diverse set of comedians,

519
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: like you know, Uh, they'll have some people like Andy Kindler,

520
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: who if you don't know who he is, then you

521
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: might not like what he does, like well, like and

522
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 2: sort of the every comedian is like that if you

523
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 2: don't every every comedian, every musician, every type of art

524
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 2: isn't for everybody, like you, Everybody's gonna have their taste.

525
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: Every food doesn't taste the same to people. Like if

526
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: you know, I could be somebody's favorite and I could

527
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 2: be somebody's least favorite. You know, everybody like Andy Kindler

528
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: can be both in the same show, you know. Like,

529
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: so there's certainly the best thing, the best way to

530
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: go to a comedy show is to number one, know

531
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 2: that it You know, if you don't know who the

532
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 2: comedians are, then know that you it might not be

533
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 2: your thing. You wouldn't just go to a movie and

534
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: be like, give me whatever movie's playing.

535
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: You wouldn't just go.

536
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: To you know, I wonder what kind of music they're

537
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: doing at Carnegie Hall tonight.

538
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: Maybe you would, maybe.

539
00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 2: You try, because sometimes they will have like, oh, Carnegie Hall, they.

540
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: Set up a certain type.

541
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Speaker 2: I have an expectation of the kind of thing, the

542
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: kind of event that happens there. But also that you

543
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 2: could go and like, oh, it's a comedy show tonight.

544
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: I didn't realize. I thought it was like, you should

545
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: do some.

546
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 2: Research if you're a consumer of entertainment of the arts and.

547
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: Be like, what show am I going to see?

548
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 2: Watch a clip of the comedian, see if it's what

549
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: you would enjoy or what you could enjoy, and then

550
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 2: you won't be disappointed. But there obviously always are people

551
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 2: who go to a comedy show who are like, it's

552
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 2: Saturday night, it's date night, it's girls, it's guys, it's

553
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 2: a bachelor party, it's bachelor appe party, whatever it is,

554
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 2: or it's just like and it's not bad for people

555
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: to trust that. Oh maybe this comedy club always gives

556
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 2: us people that we like in general. But so apparently

557
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: there was a lesbian couple right up front during this show,

558
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: Nick Depolo headlining, and my friend was featuring so on

559
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 2: right before Nickopolo and Nick is if you don't know,

560
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: he's like a conservative dude and is like, you know,

561
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna he is hilarious like he has if

562
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: you check, you know, look at his old like videos

563
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: or his like you know, his late night sets, his albums,

564
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 2: like I don't I think now he is main he's

565
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: doing a radio show or like you know, a satellite

566
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: show or Possible life.

567
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I don't know what he's doing right now.

568
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm not look look him up, look up right now.

569
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 3: I'll just check this Facebook. He's taking a nap, so oh.

570
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: Good, good good.

571
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 2: So he is a guy who, like I definitely don't

572
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: agree with all of his political views, but I can

573
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: I knowing that, like the same way I could watch

574
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: Patrise O'Neil and be like, man, this guy is right

575
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 2: about race and maybe not about gender, you know, like

576
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 2: uh he has These guys have points of view that

577
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 2: I think are valuable, and especially when filtered through the

578
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 2: mechanism of their comedic brain, like there it's worthwhile. And

579
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 2: you know, I don't watch Nick or Patrese and when

580
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 2: they when they say something I don't agree with, I don't,

581
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: you know, yell because right now it's you know, I'm

582
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 2: on a computer and it's the past or whatever. But

583
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 2: I don't, you know, I don't. If I don't want

584
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: to watch it, then I'll stop watching it. If I

585
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 2: you know, if I want to walk out, I'll walk out.

586
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: But most of the time, like if it's something I

587
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: disagree with, I'll just be like, oh, that helps me

588
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: crystallize my own views.

589
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: Like if why do I disagree with it, it's because

590
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: I think this is the truth.

591
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: It's this is the way. Maybe that's your truth. Maybe

592
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 2: it's not a universal truth, and here's mine and here

593
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: because a lot of the times comedians will make generalizations

594
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 2: and they can be true of a certain population. Maybe

595
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: you know, maybe people are saying it's nature, but it's

596
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 2: actually nurture, you know, And so I'm like, oh, and

597
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: it's grounds like the same thing as before. Don't just

598
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 2: shut it down, like open it up and have it

599
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: be grounds for like a new conversation or you know,

600
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: a greater a greater communication. Try to understand where people

601
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 2: are coming from. And you don't have to agree with

602
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: everybody to respect them. But apparently so this there's a

603
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 2: lesbian couple in the front row and my friend is featuring,

604
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 2: and he's like, you know, compared to Nick, tame like,

605
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 2: and he noticed that this couple what they were they

606
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: you know, obviously didn't come to see Nick.

607
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: Specifically because here I don't even know.

608
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 2: This isn't necessarily fair to Nick to categorize this as

609
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 2: a joke.

610
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: That he's told. But I've heard him say like Rosie O'Donnell.

611
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 2: Like you know, she's fat and I don't like her,

612
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: you know, like, oh like there might be a punchline,

613
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: but there might not.

614
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: It is not it's unfair to say.

615
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: That Nick might say something like that, maybe with more

616
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: humor to it.

617
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: I'll give you that, or.

618
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 4: He could maybe he could just say that as a

619
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 4: non sequitur and then move to the next joke like.

620
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: Her.

621
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: Also, here's some comedies.

622
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: I just wanted to get that out there. I'm allowed

623
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: to say whatever I want. But the way this is America.

624
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: So my Buddy is on stage and he sees that

625
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: during his set, this uh, this couple is like sort

626
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: of you know, hemming and hawing, sort of like arms

627
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: folded like her rumps, you know, and and he's like,

628
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: oh no, He's like force, what's gonna happen. So then

629
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: Nick gets on and does his act, and throughout the

630
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: entirety of the time that they were there, they were

631
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: doing the same. They're like, you know, just like noticeably

632
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: visibly reacting, which you know you have obviously it's an

633
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: uncomfortable situation. They're like, they made the wrong If they're

634
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: not enjoying it, they made the wrong decision. They one

635
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: are the choices just sit there and be said or

636
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: get up and leave. I mean they didn't yell, they

637
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: didn't do anything, but I think they were active enough

638
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 2: that Nick eventually just reacted to them and said to

639
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: one of them, hey, I wouldn't.

640
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: Fuck you for practice. Oh my god, oh my.

641
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: And and they got off and left, which I think

642
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: in that situation is the right thing for them to do.

643
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: Like right, and you know, Nick's a comedian, he's doing

644
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: his show, he's doing he's he can when you're on

645
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: stage as long as you're not, you know, physically threatening someone.

646
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 2: You can say whatever you want. If the audience is

647
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: free to leave, they can leave.

648
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: Uh.

649
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: And again like I am a I'm a huge fan

650
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: of gay people, lesbians, bisexual, transgender, all the letters on

651
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: the rainbow alphabet. But certainly I guess I wouldn't wreck.

652
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: It's that if that couple would ask me, should we

653
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: go to act me tonight? I probably would have said, no,

654
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: you should go on any other you should come when

655
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: I'm there.

656
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: Have you ever enjoyed?

657
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 4: Have you ever gotten heckled or walks it walks someone

658
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 4: or anything.

659
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: I am sure that there have been people that have

660
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: left my shows. I think, I mean definitely at the end,

661
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: Like people are not in all the rooms where I've

662
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: ever performed.

663
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: That's a good way to build up a fan base.

664
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 4: You just locked, just locked the doors and uh, audience

665
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 4: is dead right, you're the only one who comes back

666
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 4: and out, goes in and out, and then just keep

667
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 4: them there.

668
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 3: That'll work.

669
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: We'll put put holes in the box that meet him

670
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: every once in a while.

671
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: Right, that's how you get last who wants food? All right, Well,

672
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: let me do.

673
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: You certainly you know heckling isn't as prevalent as I think,

674
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: you know, the media would suggest or like you know,

675
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: movies or TV shows about comedy, like on most nights,

676
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: like most of the time, it's not even like malevolent,

677
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: you know, or malicious.

678
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: It's mostly malevolent, like an evil.

679
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: You're not funny.

680
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: Have a soundtrack that would be.

681
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: That's interesting because in Batman's world, the Joker is a villain,

682
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: So I guess the Heckler would be the good guy.

683
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 3: If Batman's the Heckler.

684
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's business. I guess I should be on the

685
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: other side.

686
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: But I remember I did a CD release show in

687
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: June when when my last album came out, and I

688
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: remember there's like a girl.

689
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: It was mostly you know people.

690
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: It was in a small place in the village in

691
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: New York City probably you know, if there were fifty

692
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: people there, it would have been completely packed, and it was.

693
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: It was close to full, and there was like mostly

694
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: people you know who are friends and friends of friends

695
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: and you know, fans. But then there's like a girl

696
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: in the back who I don't know who she was

697
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: or if she was there for the show, but she

698
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: was just super drunk and just during my set would

699
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: just like answer as though it was just me and

700
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: her having a conversation.

701
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: I like it became you know, I you know, initially

702
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: try to ignore it, but she keeps.

703
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: Doing it, so eventually I engaged her and like, that's

704
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: the kind of thing that, like when somebody's so drunk. Normally,

705
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: if you're at a comedy club, you might get escorted

706
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: out at that point if it's like a well policed room,

707
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: like ideally, you know, there's some people, some comedians and

708
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: here's the thing to medians are different. Some comedians thrive

709
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: on audience interaction like that, and I'm fine for it

710
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: in certain situations. Like I'm not gonna tell people. I

711
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: mean I will tell people in general, don't do that,

712
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: like and I'll tell people if somebody Like one time

713
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: a guy came up to me after a show and

714
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: was like, hey, man, I was the guy who yelled

715
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: at that thing. And I was like, and he was like,

716
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: can I buy a CD? I'm like, oh, clearly he's

717
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: being supportive. He thinks he's helping. And I was like, oh, yeah, definitely,

718
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: you can buy a CD. Also, just so you know,

719
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: you don't that's not the right thing to do. Don't

720
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: yell those things out and he's like, no, no, no,

721
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: it wasn't. I should have been.

722
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: I was. I was, it was helping. Like that's like

723
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: the attitude.

724
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 4: So he went on like his Twitter and was like

725
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 4: I just opened for Mike Kaplan.

726
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 2: I opened for him, I middled for him, and then

727
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: afterwards I closed it out right after Merch. I did everything.

728
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: He didn't even need to be. Here's another time. Sorry

729
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: I cut off my own story. Sorry torount myself. But

730
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: I was I did a like a holiday party over

731
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: the Christmas Christmas time, over the Christmas time. That's how

732
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: people say it, right, I have a due over the

733
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: Christmas time. I did a holiday party and it was

734
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: like for a company. So it was just like thirty

735
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: people in this uh in the small room at a

736
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: club that had you know, they'd rented it out, and

737
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: they're like, here we are, it's our company Christmas party.

738
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: And I remember I was doing a part. I forget

739
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: exactly the joke I was doing.

740
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 2: Or what this guy said, but this guy yelled something

741
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: or was you know, being just really you know and

742
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: boisterous and you know. But but now it's a part

743
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,479
Speaker 2: where like everybody knows He's like, oh, he's that guy.

744
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: Everybody knows him. And at some point he was I

745
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: said something funny in reaction to a thing that he said,

746
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: and he was like, look at that. If I said that,

747
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: they said that funny thing, and I said back to him, Yeah,

748
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: but I also would have been saying funny things regardless,

749
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: Like you didn't make there be more funny things. You

750
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 2: just made me say a different funny thing than the

751
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: funny thing I would have said, Like now we have

752
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 2: less time to say the things that I would have said,

753
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: Like I opened for Louis a few times Louis Katz

754
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: and Louis Kat's a funny comedian who I did a

755
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: show with last night, But I did mean Louisy k Sorry.

756
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't for a lot of named Louis.

757
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 4: If you wouldn't have went with if you wouldn't have

758
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 4: went with Cats, I would have thought you were gonna like,

759
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 4: like Louis the I don't know the K or something,

760
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 4: but yeah, we said Louis Cat.

761
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: Sounds like that is a believable.

762
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's totally plausible. That's what the K and

763
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: stands were.

764
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: Actually, he's named after cats of the sea, which is

765
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 2: tuna fish there's actual cat in there, so but they

766
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 2: can have there's a legal amount that they can have. Sorry, okay,

767
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 2: point I just seeing getting to work with Louis, which

768
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: is you know, a thrill uh and itself, Like I

769
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: would see him sometimes like his audiences are in general,

770
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: like they know who the same thing with Kamal, you know,

771
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: like they know who he is, they know what they're

772
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: there for, so it's like nobody's like what why is

773
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 2: he Like, but every once in a while there would

774
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: be a guy, like somebody maybe too drunk or too

775
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: excited or whatever that would yell out uh. And then

776
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: Louie's reaction to a heckler would just be like, I, uh,

777
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: I just want to say the things that I want

778
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: to say, Like we'll all enjoy that more than you

779
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: saying something and then me saying this like no, I

780
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: don't have things to say to you for like and

781
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 2: you know, he wouldn't go on for a long time,

782
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 2: but it would be clear he's like, I don't have

783
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: a thing like don't do that. I don't have a

784
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: thing to say about that. I just came to say

785
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: the things that I want to say. And that's what

786
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of everybody else here wants to see so,

787
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: you know, which I think is also a great way

788
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: of dealing with a heckler by not being funny and

789
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: being like if people are like, hey, you're supposed to

790
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 2: be funny, like, well, you're supposed to not be talking

791
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: right now.

792
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: This is happening.

793
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: Do the things that we are supposed to do now,

794
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: this is not funny.

795
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 4: Part that no one's enjoying is happening. Yeah, ed, if

796
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 4: you shut up, we can go back.

797
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't comfort it. They pay to hear me,

798
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: not you.

799
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, fans are getting so entitled, just in general. Anyway,

800
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 4: there was a basketball game the other day where a

801
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 4: guy he fell into the stands trying to block another

802
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 4: guy's shot, and he was they were playing away, so

803
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 4: he wasn't you know, it wasn't the home crowd that

804
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 4: was rooting for him as a team that you know,

805
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 4: the crowd that was rooting against him. And when he

806
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 4: got up, he he thinks one of the guys called

807
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 4: him the N word, if at least a minimum, the

808
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 4: guy admitted to calling the guy a piece of crap.

809
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: And you know, we're talking about a fifty year old

810
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 4: man talking to a nineteen year old kid and a

811
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 4: nine year old kid pushes him and then you know, then.

812
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: Everybody restrains him and all that stuff.

813
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 4: But to me, like the story, obviously you never want

814
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 4: to touch a fan or whatever. I mean obviously, and

815
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 4: the guy got suspended, But there's this other part. It's

816
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 4: like you shouldn't be doing that as a person who

817
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 4: came to be entertained at Like you don't really have

818
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 4: to get that privilege to completely disrespect somebody because you

819
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 4: want the ball to go into the other hole.

820
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 5: You know.

821
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: No, there's I mean, there's situations where obviously, like somebody

822
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: does something wrong, but then you know somebody does something

823
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: wrong in reaction to that, and then you know it's hard,

824
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: it can becomes more difficult to you know, emotionally and

825
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: you know, intellectually separate, like you know, what should what

826
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: is the right thing to do? Like there's a thing

827
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: maybe we've talked about this. I know I've said this before,

828
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 2: like that I and I didn't. I wasn't the first

829
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: person to say it, and now I haven't even said it,

830
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: so never mind. But the idea that like if there's

831
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 2: a breach of etiquette, often it is a worse breach

832
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: of etiquette to point out that breach of etiquette, Like

833
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: you know, if somebody you know is at a dinner

834
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: party and picks up the wrong fork or something, and

835
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: then somebody else is.

836
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: Like, you're using the wrong fork, you know, like you know.

837
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: Loudly, you know, reprimanding, like the the for that person,

838
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 2: the better thing to do would have been to, you know,

839
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 2: be the bigger person, be like, oh, that person's doing

840
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: the wrong thing, but I shouldn't do a wronger thing

841
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 2: by being rude, like the same way, you know, if

842
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 2: somebody if there's a heckler, I mean, I think that's

843
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: the thing that came into play with like the Daniel

844
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: Tosh situation, Like when somebody heckled him, he responded like

845
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 2: some people might think, you know, in an overreactionary way,

846
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: like if you actually did threaten somebody with rape as

847
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 2: a reaction to a heckle, I think that would be

848
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 2: the wrong thing to do. And I think that was

849
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: part of the discussion of did he do that. I

850
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: don't think he did. I think he was, you know,

851
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: because they were talking about that, and I think it's

852
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: clear where his heart lies, and it's not necessarily the

853
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: greatest heart in the world, I think. But he's the

854
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: kind of guy who says things that are horrible, says

855
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 2: things that if he meant them, then yeah, he should

856
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 2: go to jail if he thought that that woman should

857
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 2: be raped.

858
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: But he doesn't.

859
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: I mean not even I mean, I guess if you

860
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 2: think somebody should that doesn't mean anything.

861
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: But I'm like, you shouldn't go to jail just for

862
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: thinking something.

863
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: You shouldn't go to jail most of the time, just

864
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: for saying something unless it is something that you know

865
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: is definitely a threat or you know, and.

866
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 4: So much so much of his comedy. The punchline of

867
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 4: the joke is I'm a terrible person. Yes, unstated, but

868
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,479
Speaker 4: you know it's dud. We're we're laughing at this guy,

869
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 4: and he's kind of the butt of his own ignorance, Like, Hey,

870
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 4: I just said a really ignorant thing about something or

871
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 4: some culture and I don't even like care, I don't

872
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 4: even realize it.

873
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just saying this.

874
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: He's one of the only guys who's like a you know,

875
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: sort of a good looking, straight white male who isn't

876
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: like the butt of his own jokes as far as like,

877
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 2: you know, people like Louis or Bill Burrer, Brian Reagan

878
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: or like, you know, I'm a dummy.

879
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm talking about.

880
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: And they're actually, you know, the smartest people that there are.

881
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: But like Daniel Tosh is like, you know, yeah, I'm

882
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 2: good looking and rich and smart and white and oh man,

883
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: it's great.

884
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: I don't care.

885
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: I'm entitled, you know, like I'll take it, you know.

886
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: And yeah, he's certainly not a likable character if he's

887
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: actually like that, and he's not a likable person. But

888
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 2: his comedy is if you if you want it, it's funny,

889
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: you know. If you don't want it, then don't watch it,

890
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: don't go leave, turn it off, stop listening, don't watch

891
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: his show. But you know, and he's certainly I think

892
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 2: occupies a place in the world now where I don't

893
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: think he's doing damage. Like I don't think if you know,

894
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 2: people enjoy him, if they're bad people, I don't think

895
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: he's making them worse people.

896
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, And I think I you know.

897
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 2: As a person who you know, whether there's a good

898
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 2: or a bad you know, good person, bad person, whatever

899
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 2: it is, we're all, you know, multifaceted and have our flaws.

900
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 2: But you know, if you're the kind of person who

901
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: is on the right, you know, say, come out a

902
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: good person. Like if he laughs at a Daniel Toss joke,

903
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 2: it doesn't make him less of a good person. It

904
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: doesn't make you know, more evil exist in the world,

905
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: like Patton Oswell quoting somebody about you know, political correctness

906
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: doesn't make him less a It makes you know him

907
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: a more nuanced, well rounded person. You know, you have

908
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: to sort of it makes sense to know your enemy

909
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 2: or whatever the enemy is. Like, no, like more information

910
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: and more communication is almost always better.

911
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean I think a lot of times too,

912
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 4: like there's a kind of an industry that's been created,

913
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 4: you know, with the Internet. Everyone gets a voice now,

914
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 4: so it's not necessarily like you know, like I think

915
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 4: that story, that story of Dale Tosh working out material

916
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 4: running a person that was that he felt heckled by

917
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 4: in like ten years ago, that becomes maybe somewhat of

918
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 4: a like did you hear about that one time?

919
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: Or did he whatever happened?

920
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 4: And now it's like a blog and it becomes like

921
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 4: a Hoven and Post story, right, Yeah, people writing think pieces.

922
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 4: That needs to be an apology from Comedy Central, Like

923
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 4: there's like there's like an entire.

924
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: Like machine behind it.

925
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 4: And while I'm not really like I kind of think

926
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 4: it goes too far sometimes with the apology machine, I

927
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 4: do like that it challenges comedy in a way where

928
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 4: I like for people to think about what they do

929
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 4: on stage. And I don't mean that in the past

930
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 4: regressive like think which I mean agree with me. I

931
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 4: mean think where like even if you say something offensive,

932
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 4: I like.

933
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 3: When comedians are like, oh no, no, no, no, I meant.

934
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,479
Speaker 4: It in the offensive way for you to to laugh

935
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 4: at the offense of it.

936
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: Like I thought that through this is why it's funny.

937
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 4: I kind of like just the discussions that we get

938
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 4: to have that we didn't necessarily get to have before

939
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 4: the late the latest guy, uh, you know, comedy legend

940
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 4: Jerry Seinfeld kind of got not even kind of he

941
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 4: really got railroaded by Gawker, who wrote like a really

942
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 4: solacious write up around his commentary, which I didn't think

943
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 4: was that inflammatory, but they were asking him about, uh,

944
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 4: diversity in comedy.

945
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know he was kind of like, who

946
00:43:58,719 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 3: who cares?

947
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 4: But in a like I care about what's funny, not

948
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 4: who cares at all? But just like I care about

949
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 4: what's funny, and that just happened to be these ten

950
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 4: people that I know that I started out my show

951
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 4: with and they happen to be white males. But the

952
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 4: but and I think there's a discussion that we had there.

953
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 4: But instead the piece was like Jerry Seinfeld is racist,

954
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 4: says who cares about diversity. It's like, now we can't

955
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 4: have a discussion because you went so far as your

956
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 4: anger blog.

957
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 2: I completely agree, I mean, but I also think that

958
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: you now having we having this conversation, and like you know,

959
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: it becomes like ripples and echoes, where now people you know,

960
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: there are people who will not There are certainly people

961
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: who will just look at the headline and be like, well,

962
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: I guess Seinfeld's a racist, and that is unfortunate, right,

963
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: because I mean, if there's certainly reasons to dislike Jerry Seinfeld,

964
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: Like I've watched a bunch of his episodes, and I

965
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: think they're like I think he is, like you know,

966
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: so he's like an entitled rich man in a certain way,

967
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: and he it's not that he's required to be any

968
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: other way, but like I don't know, you know, and

969
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: I'm not to say that I have the opportunity to

970
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: be friends with him, you know, but I don't know

971
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: if I would be, Like but I also I only

972
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 2: know the part the persona that he presents, you know,

973
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: for entertainment to the public for the most part, Like

974
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: you know, my impression of him seems like he's like,

975
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: you know, a dude with a ton of money and

976
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: a family that he loves and cares about and does

977
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: stuff with them. And then the passion for comedy that

978
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 2: I also that resonates with me. That you know, sometimes

979
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: he says things like here's I had Todd Glass on

980
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: my podcast and hasn't come out yet. But a thing,

981
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 2: here's a preview a thing that he said about which

982
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was exactly a reaction to.

983
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: It was to a thing that Seinfeldt says sometimes, but

984
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: it wasn't about that specifically. Like when seinfeld talks about

985
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: how he likes to write clean comedy, I read a

986
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: thing where he was like, oh, because I see it

987
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 2: as like, you know, you can defend yourself with a gun,

988
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: but that's like, you know, clean comedy is like defending

989
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 2: yourself with karate, you know, like it's harder to do,

990
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: and so Todd said about like when people say that

991
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: about Brian Reagan, like he's hilarious and he's clean, you

992
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 2: got to give him extra credit for that.

993
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: And Todd's like, no, you don't have to give him

994
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: extra credit.

995
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: You should only give him like he's hilarious because he's

996
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: hilarious period, like if you.

997
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: And he's he went, let me think what he said.

998
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if you give him extra credit for being

999
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: clean in addition to hilarious, that means like you would

1000
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: have to say Richard Pryor and George Carlin.

1001
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: Of course they're really funny, but you have to admit

1002
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: they took the easy way out a little bit, like yeah, definitely,

1003
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: like you know, and like, no, not at all like.

1004
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 5: Some people themselves as they told the jokes, they targeted themselves.

1005
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 2: Up exactly, like so, but here's There was an episode

1006
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 2: of Seinfeld's Comedians and Cars getting coffee with Todd Barry

1007
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: where like they were talking about all the shirts at

1008
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: Macy's and he's like, where do they go? Seinfeld's like,

1009
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: where do they go?

1010
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: After that? Like you know what happens to them? They

1011
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: don't people don't buy them, all.

1012
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: Right, And and Todd's like, maybe they just give them

1013
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 2: away to people, you know, like maybe people who you know.

1014
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: And then Seinfeld's like, so I have to I pay

1015
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: eighty dollars for them, but then other people just get them.

1016
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: And then Todd's like says something I'm paraphrase, and he's like,

1017
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: doesn't it make you feel good to know that they're

1018
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: not going to waste, that people are getting them, you know,

1019
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: that's somebody that they're being used and some And Seinfel's like, no,

1020
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: it doesn't make me feel better. I'm like, that's a

1021
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: funny thing to say, but I think it comes from

1022
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 2: a real place that like and maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong,

1023
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: maybe I'm buying into it, but I feel like, you know,

1024
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: you are you know, and you're not exactly who you

1025
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: present yourself as as a comedian like and sometimes you're

1026
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 2: the opposite, Like Sarah Silverman. We know when she says

1027
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 2: things that like if you read it on paper and

1028
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: didn't know where it came from, that's.

1029
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: Racist, that's homophobic, that's sexist.

1030
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: But through her her body of work and you know

1031
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: her delivery and her you know her actual you know,

1032
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 2: forthright heartfelt, you know, sincere like her book The Bedwetter

1033
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: is amazing, and it's like completely it's like snark free.

1034
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: It's like just if you.

1035
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 2: Like, if you're like I don't like Sarah Silman's comedy

1036
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: because I prefer like a you know, an emotionally brutally

1037
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: honest like Bill Burr, like you know, you know that

1038
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: kind of thing Mark Marin, you know, then read that

1039
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 2: book because that book is.

1040
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 1: Like her doing that just as hilariously.

1041
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: And just her stand up isn't always you know, like

1042
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: sincere on its face, but you can tell the sincerity

1043
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: of her positions underneath, like when she says something that

1044
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: we're like, oh, we're laughing at racism, not at her

1045
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 2: being racist.

1046
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: Right.

1047
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 4: Comedians are our brand. And also you know, you have

1048
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 4: to present certain things. I mean, that's why they polish

1049
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 4: their acts, that's why they you know, some jokes retire,

1050
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 4: some jokes keep going, like it's always a constant like

1051
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 4: this is my face today, and if you skip forward

1052
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 4: two years, you know that comedian may I mean, like

1053
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 4: all people may have developed some other stuff or whatever

1054
00:48:58,800 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 4: about them.

1055
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: The thing I thing Seinfeld should do is he should

1056
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 3: just go.

1057
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 4: Ahead and make like a like another comedy Web series,

1058
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 4: but with like African Americans and stuff, and just call

1059
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 4: it something else like comedians on a bus getting robbed,

1060
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 4: or comedians cars comedians and metro comedians on the corner

1061
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 4: getting ignored by taxis.

1062
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 3: So you know, getting followed around stores something like that.

1063
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 3: And then I.

1064
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,479
Speaker 4: Feel like all of be forgiven because it's like, oh, cool,

1065
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 4: he made it up and we can just start over.

1066
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 2: So definitely the point that when yeah, taking out of

1067
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: context him saying who cares about diversity? Like he doesn't

1068
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 2: mean nobody should care about diversity as a concept, that

1069
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 2: he didn't say he hates all.

1070
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: Races, right, Yeah, when it comes to being.

1071
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: Funny, who cares about diversity? What's funny to me is

1072
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: what's funny to me?

1073
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: I mean.

1074
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 2: And then from an external point of view, if you

1075
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 2: look at him and you're like, oh, well, maybe you

1076
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,959
Speaker 2: you're friends with a lot of straight white men, because

1077
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 2: that's that's the bulk of people who was doing comedy

1078
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: when he started, Like most people who've been doing comedy

1079
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: thirty years or more are straight white men.

1080
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: Like that, there's no getting around that.

1081
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: Like there's certainly a lot more younger people uh doing it,

1082
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: but and there's certainly a lot less famous people who

1083
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: are not just straight white men. But for the people

1084
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 2: that Seinfeld knows, like there he doesn't.

1085
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 1: You know, if he's like, I want to hang.

1086
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: Out with guys with people my age like and who

1087
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: are comedians, then uh, those are the ones that he knows.

1088
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 3: I think he.

1089
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 4: Should just like, I think it actually would have been

1090
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 4: better if he rejected diversity as a concept, because at

1091
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 4: least the article would have made sense.

1092
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 3: Cause, like, when I.

1093
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 4: Read that article, is just like put that because like

1094
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 4: the clip is in the article, and it's like it

1095
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 4: is almost like they are counting on the fact that

1096
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 4: no one's gonna read it.

1097
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 3: No one's gonna hit play on that clip.

1098
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 4: No, like you're just gonna see a title and go

1099
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 4: fuck Jerry Seinfeld the end.

1100
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: Because because that's what most people do.

1101
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 5: We live in the society just very very short seconds

1102
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 5: minutes and you know, if you can't tell it in

1103
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 5: you know, yeah, so many seconds we've got.

1104
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: We got to move on to the next thing. You know.

1105
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 2: There was a this this thing that happened with this

1106
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 2: Canadian butcher shop putting my joke on their window.

1107
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: Did you guys see this?

1108
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I heard about it, but please tell the audience.

1109
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: So I did a joke. I'm vegan.

1110
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: I did a joke about being vegan on Conan and

1111
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: it was a couple of years ago, and then there's

1112
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, like it over Christmas. My joke

1113
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: was on this butcher shops window. And then I'm actually

1114
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:42,479
Speaker 2: gonna look up, now, how many, like where how many

1115
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: people have seen it?

1116
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: Because it went like viral.

1117
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: It was like at the time six hundred thousand people

1118
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 2: I think had had seen it on Reddit and on

1119
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: imgre And I'm gonna click on it.

1120
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 3: And you weren't credited at first, right.

1121
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 2: Oh no, not at all, So uh yeah, my name

1122
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 2: wasn't there. So it looked like they were just saying

1123
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 2: a thing about vegans. And the joke is about how

1124
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: vegans live longer because we're not any invited anywhere fun

1125
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: or dangerous, so we sit at home crying and drinking,

1126
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 2: careful not to cry into the drink because tears are

1127
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 2: a product of animal suffering that we're not allowed to have.

1128
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: And so they put that, but they took away the

1129
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 2: we part of it, and so it's now these guys

1130
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 2: are just like.

1131
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: Oh, so from a vegan's perspective. I'm like, hey, we're sad,

1132
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: right right, But from their perspective, it's like, hey, don't

1133
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: be vegan, you know what I mean.

1134
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 3: You'll be said.

1135
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't even like the joke was like from

1136
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 4: a superior It was taken something where it's like people

1137
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 4: use this as like a vegans are superior to everyone,

1138
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna flip it on his head and say, no,

1139
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 4: we're not necessarily superior. You guys don't want to hang

1140
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 4: out with us, And that's kind of the joke, you know.

1141
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: It's about it's about the perception that people have of vegans.

1142
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 2: So coming from a vegan, it had it has a

1143
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 2: certain context, but not coming from a vegan, it's just

1144
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 2: the attitude that I'm aiming.

1145
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: To, like combat in the like.

1146
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: Another thing people say is like vegans don't have a

1147
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: sense of humor, so, you know, not knowing that the

1148
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: joke is coming from a vegan, and a lot of

1149
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: it's really interesting. So now I think I looked at

1150
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 2: the link now seven hundred and thirty eight thousand views

1151
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: on indoor so and I so I wrote a thing

1152
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: in response to it on my website, and that also

1153
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: then didn't. It certainly didn't go as viral, but you know,

1154
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: it got picked up by the Huffington Post and different

1155
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 2: blogs and so and that was all I could do. Like,

1156
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 2: which that's that is the way the world works. Like

1157
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 2: if you know, when during the last presidential debates, Paul

1158
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 2: Ryan went on TV and you know, I think he

1159
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 2: was the Republican vice presidential candidate, and he would say.

1160
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,439
Speaker 1: Things that were like patently false, not true. He would

1161
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: like not you.

1162
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 2: Know, basically can like making up statistics or saying misquoting people,

1163
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 2: saying that things were that were not, and like millions

1164
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: of people might have been watching that on TV, and

1165
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: the next day, every newspaper that would like, you know,

1166
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 2: we're reviewing the coverage would be like, oh, here's what

1167
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: he said, Here's what the truth is. But millions of

1168
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: people don't read those papers, like maybe hundreds of thousands,

1169
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: but just like a much smaller percentage of people would

1170
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: see the retraction, would see the facts, would see the truth.

1171
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: So most people are just like, oh, that's true when

1172
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: it's not. And then a you know, very limited set

1173
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: of people. So you know, I did everything that I

1174
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: could in this situation to uh, you.

1175
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: Know, to not write right.

1176
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: The wrong sounds like you know, like high and mighty

1177
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: and hoity toity, and.

1178
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 4: But you wanted to you wanted to at least clarify

1179
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 4: and get you know, the whole story out there as

1180
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 4: much as you could.

1181
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: And and so then and the reason I brought it

1182
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: up is a lot of the blogs that picks it.

1183
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: Up, Like you know, I wrote.

1184
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 2: The thing that I wrote was like, you know, factual

1185
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 2: but also meant to be funny. It was like, you know,

1186
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 2: there's some tongue in cheek stuff. There's like jokes in it,

1187
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 2: like I'm I'm not like I'm angry. This is the way,

1188
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: you know, there's so many other things to get angry

1189
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: about in the world than a joke being mislabeled as

1190
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: belonging to a butcher shop than a comedian. I mean,

1191
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 2: I think it is, you know, in this context important

1192
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: to discuss, like I'm, I think that the ownership of jokes,

1193
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 2: the propriety of jokes, like, you know, especially in the

1194
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 2: age of the Internet where people like I'm actually hopefully

1195
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 2: on my next album that comes out in May, there'll

1196
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 2: be a bonus track of me telling a story about this,

1197
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 2: because that joke will be on the album, and then

1198
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 2: I had like a back and forth and.

1199
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 3: Like, have you already named the album?

1200
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, the album will be called Small, Dork and Handsome.

1201
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: It'll also be a special, you know, video wise that

1202
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: you can watch on Netflix starting in mid May.

1203
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 3: Cool and congratulations, thank you.

1204
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, so hopefully that story.

1205
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 2: So the Netflix special will be there for free for everybody,

1206
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 2: and then who has Netflix, and then you can also

1207
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 2: be able to download it on iTunes and so just

1208
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: I know that I got I was inspired by Bo

1209
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: Burnham put out his new special on Netflix and for free.

1210
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: On YouTube, and it's amazing.

1211
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 2: It's called what like watch watch the beginning, watch the

1212
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 2: last ten minutes of it, and then also watch the middle.

1213
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: But like the the beginning and end are like really impressive.

1214
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 2: Like he is twenty three, he's been at it for

1215
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 2: like seven years, and he is really like.

1216
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: A genius. I think he's super.

1217
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: He's really funny and thoughtful and does really interesting things.

1218
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: But the thing that's.

1219
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 2: Relevant here is I also bought the album and noted like,

1220
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 2: because I'm like.

1221
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: I want to have it. I want to be able

1222
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: to listen to it, even though I can watch it

1223
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 1: for free anytime.

1224
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 2: I want, but when I downloaded it from iTunes, it

1225
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 2: also had like five bonus songs that weren't in the special,

1226
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: so it's like, oh, that's nice, so that it's not

1227
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: just if people are like just getting the same thing

1228
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 2: I can get for free. So at least with this,

1229
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: I'll have one extra track that you won't get in

1230
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 2: the special because it happened after it was recorded, and

1231
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 2: it's a you know, sort of a more it's you know,

1232
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: more of a story then stand up specifically. But I

1233
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 2: recorded it in front of an audience just the other

1234
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 2: night this week, and I feel pretty happy about it.

1235
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 2: And so anyway, part of the story is that people,

1236
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 2: you know, when when I you know, the question of

1237
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 2: Initially when this thing happened, it was like right I

1238
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: think Christmas or the day after Christmas, and people started

1239
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 2: like trickling in with like, hey.

1240
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: Isn't this your joke.

1241
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, yeah, weird it's on a butcher shop window.

1242
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 2: And then eventually like I was like, I forget and

1243
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 2: I didn't think to even respond to it. I was

1244
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: just like, oh, weird that that happened. But then it

1245
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 2: kept happening. People kept writing to me, and I was

1246
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 2: like oh my god. And then I saw how like

1247
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of people and I was like, oh.

1248
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 2: And then BuzzFeed picked it up, and you know, I

1249
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 2: was like, oh man, it's like it's not going away.

1250
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: It's getting bigger and bigger.

1251
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 2: And so like a week later, it was like on

1252
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 2: New Year's Eve actually that I wrote my response to it.

1253
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: I was just like, hey, this is what happened.

1254
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: I wrote, I wrote a joke, and now they have

1255
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: my joke, and I just want to let people know

1256
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 2: if you didn't know, it's my joke. And then you know,

1257
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 2: send it just to a couple like you know, comedy

1258
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 2: journalist friends of mine, and.

1259
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: Then you know, it ran.

1260
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: And so a lot of the there was some backlash,

1261
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 2: like you know, as as with anything on the internet,

1262
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 2: Like there were some people that were like, soak it up, pussy,

1263
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: right then there were you know a lot of people

1264
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 2: like friends and fans and supportive people who were like,

1265
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: we're on your side, pussy. You know, that's a funny

1266
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 2: thing that I wrote for that to go there.

1267
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, so that is you know what I didn't

1268
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: even get to.

1269
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to keep railroading myself, but the points that

1270
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 2: I wanted to get to was when people like the

1271
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 2: Humpington Post would cover this thing, they would put a

1272
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 2: link to what I wrote, and then they would put quotes.

1273
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 2: But then they would also in their titles make it

1274
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: sound more inflammatory than I intended it to be. They'd

1275
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 2: be like Vegan Comedian fumes over, you know, like Vegan.

1276
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: Is steaming over this.

1277
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I understand, they're you know, they're going

1278
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: for like wordplay things. They're going for inflammatory things to

1279
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 2: get clicks, you know, and I don't obviously I want

1280
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 2: people to see the thing as well, but it's like

1281
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 2: they're they put a quote from my thing, and they're

1282
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: like Caplin fumed, And I mean, I'm I'm using raising

1283
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: my voice because it was the Internet and there was

1284
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 2: no tone.

1285
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 4: But there is a tone to those articles where it

1286
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 4: is like so and so lays a smack down or

1287
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 4: slams you know, they do it politics, Sarah Palin slams

1288
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 4: Obama's like.

1289
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 2: That showed a sound effix, Yeah, and it it's it's

1290
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 2: especially like I mean, most people don't know and I

1291
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 2: often forget as well, like in the person writing the article,

1292
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 2: isn't the person usually writing the headline, like the person

1293
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 2: writes the article, and they could be as measured and

1294
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 2: cautious and like even handed and fair minded as possible,

1295
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: but then they throw on a thing that says Jerry

1296
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,479
Speaker 2: Seinfeld doesn't care about black people and.

1297
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: He hates Butcher, you know, like, and they're like, Oh,

1298
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: that wasn't what I meant. That wasn't my point, you know.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, because people, especially I'm sure that you know,

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Speaker 2: in today's day and age, it's easier to get like

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Speaker 2: a bite sized bit of you know, a tweet or

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Speaker 2: a two minute YouTube video as opposed to maybe, you know,

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Speaker 2: decades ago, you know, millions of people would sit down

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Speaker 2: and watch the news from beginning to end, and you

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01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 2: care about the journalistic integrity to be like, oh, this

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Speaker 2: guy says it, so it must be.

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Speaker 1: True because I trust this guy.

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Speaker 4: Nothing else is on TV either, you know, it's nothing

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Speaker 4: else to watch exactly.

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Speaker 2: So now, I mean, that's one of the great things

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Speaker 2: about obviously the Internet and the world is that we

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Speaker 2: do have like so many more have you do you

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Speaker 2: guys know George Saunders.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I know George Sanders.

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Speaker 2: George Saunders is an amazing writer who he put out

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Speaker 2: a book this year called I think it's called The

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Speaker 2: Tenth of December, which I haven't read yet, but I've

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Speaker 2: read a couple other things by him. He won the

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Speaker 2: MacArthur Genius Brant. You know you got money for I

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Speaker 2: think writing. They're just like, keep writing, here's money to

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Speaker 2: keep writing, like because he's right. He writes some fiction,

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Speaker 2: some nonfiction. The first thing I read of it is

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Speaker 2: with nonfiction called The brain Dead Megaphone, and the first

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Speaker 2: chapter of it, it's like a bunch of short sort

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Speaker 2: of short stories pieces essays, but the brain Dead Megaphone

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Speaker 2: was about He's like, imagine if you're at a party

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Speaker 2: and you hear somebody else talking really loudly, and you

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01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 2: don't it doesn't matter what they're talking about there, you

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Speaker 2: just can't help but hear what they're saying, and maybe

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Speaker 2: there's saying things that are incorrect or factually wrong, like

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Speaker 2: in ignorant. But like then you start talking about what

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Speaker 2: they're talking about, because like, can you believe what that

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Speaker 2: guy's talking about?

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Speaker 1: That's what happens when like you don't.

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Speaker 2: Want to be you didn't want to be talking about

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Speaker 2: this thing, but you're like, man, can you believe that guy?

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Speaker 2: He's saying this, and like that guy is so loud

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Speaker 2: that it controls what everybody's talking about. And he's like,

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Speaker 2: that's the media. Like the media is just this brain

1340
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Speaker 2: dead megaphone like yelling things that everybody can't help but

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Speaker 2: hear uh and then you know, sort of shaping the discussion.

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Speaker 1: He's like, that's not good.

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Speaker 2: What would be better is if they're where everybody like

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Speaker 2: tons of different conversations going on about all kinds of things,

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Speaker 2: and everybody could hear everything. You know, you could listen

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Speaker 2: to whatever you wanted, and like there was no overarching

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01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 2: theme just rail you know, ramming itself through everybody's conversing.

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Speaker 2: Who care, Like I don't care about what Justin Bieber

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Speaker 2: just did, Like but I know that he did something.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what Shilah, but I care that Shilah Booth,

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Speaker 2: you know, took somebody took Daniel Klou's or clothes story,

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Speaker 2: and you know, Pat tried to pass it off as

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Speaker 2: his own.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: But now I don't care he did something with a paperbag.

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Speaker 1: I don't care.

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Speaker 2: And now I'm perpetuating it because I think it's important

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Speaker 2: for me to talk about how I don't care about

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Speaker 2: things like.

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Speaker 3: That I actually saw. I experienced that today.

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Speaker 4: I was talking about there's this NFL prospect, his name

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Speaker 4: is Michael Sam and he came out of the closet

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Speaker 4: like yesterday or something to the media and he's about

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Speaker 4: to get drafted into the NFL, and people are speculating

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Speaker 4: what would this mean, an openly gay athlete for the

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Speaker 4: first time in the NFL and all this stuff, and

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Speaker 4: I was like, you know, I think it's pretty significant.

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Speaker 4: Just you know, I think a lot of people are

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Speaker 4: like talking about it weirdly where they're like, well, this

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Speaker 4: is just a pr move, and I'm like, when has

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Speaker 4: this ever helped somebody in this industry to you know, like,

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Speaker 4: is he gonna skyrocket up? Like like our NFL is.

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Speaker 4: Everyone's so enlightened now in the NFL that they're like, oh,

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Speaker 4: we want this guy's number one pick because we can't

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Speaker 4: wait to deal with anything about this, right, So, you know,

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Speaker 4: I felt like that was kind of bullshit. And then

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Speaker 4: this one guy responded, He's like, well, I just don't care.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, well, he seemed pretty upset for

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Speaker 4: someone who doesn't care. And he was like, well, it's

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Speaker 4: just that every time I turn on the TV they're

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Speaker 4: talking about it.

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Speaker 3: They're not even showing like highlights of games and stuff.

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Speaker 4: They're they're they're talking about this, And that's a bit

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Speaker 4: of a hyperbole. I've been watching TV too, and they're

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Speaker 4: not talking about it, like instead of showing what, you know, sports.

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Speaker 4: But but I know what he means, which is that

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Speaker 4: he doesn't in my opinion, he doesn't want to know

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Speaker 4: about it, and he wishes that they would talk about it,

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01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 4: say once every day as opposed to once every hour.

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Speaker 3: And he's getting pissed off because of that.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, obviously the fact that there are these twenty

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Speaker 2: four hour news channels like and twenty four hour you know,

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Speaker 2: just they have to have content all the time, and

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01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 2: so obviously there are things they could fill it with,

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01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 2: but they can't. You know, the man hours, the woman hours,

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Speaker 2: the person hours that go into like figuring out, you know,

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Speaker 2: how to get all the obviously, you know, when I

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Speaker 2: would drive around Boston listen to MPR, like if I

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Speaker 2: was driving for more than a couple of hours, then

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Speaker 2: at the top of every hour, I would hear the

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Speaker 2: same news.

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Speaker 1: Stories because that's the way I mean, that is the

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Speaker 1: way the news cycle works. Like and so the story here.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that you know?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's great that this guy is gay and

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Speaker 2: is coming out and is talking about it and is

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Speaker 2: you know, because that the world is getting safer and

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01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 2: better and things. It'll be great in you know, a

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01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 2: decade or a couple decades when people might like when

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Speaker 2: coming out won't even be like you know, he's like, man,

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Speaker 2: this is this is a pr move, Like when it's

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Speaker 2: just like, oh, I'm out now, it's good people can

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01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: be out like and then when when the actual reaction

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01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 2: of who cares won't matter as much? Like we live

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01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,479
Speaker 2: in a place now where like there, yes, some people

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01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 2: a lot of people are like who cares? But the

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Speaker 2: answer is a lot of people older people, conservative people

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Speaker 2: in the wrong. We're like, no, keep queers off my

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01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 2: I don't want my people slapping their butts to be gay.

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Speaker 1: To be straight.

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Speaker 4: If you hit them, man, and you lay on top

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01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 4: of them and you hump them in a pal, you

1423
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 4: need to do it as a heterosexual.

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01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 3: That's the problem. If you're reaching for crashes into pal,

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Speaker 3: you need to be sight.

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Speaker 4: Will you put both of your hands down by my

1427
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 4: testic goals and ask me to hang you something?

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Speaker 3: You better be straight.

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Speaker 2: It'll be great when when people can complain about gay

1430
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 2: people like this, when like gay people they are everywhere,

1431
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: they are running the media, they are in charge of Hollywood,

1432
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 2: which maybe people do think now they are like not

1433
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 2: like gross not you know, like when it's just like, oh,

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01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 2: shut up, gay people. You're less than ten percent of

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Speaker 2: the population, but you're greater than fifty percent of you know,

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Speaker 2: my Facebook speed like a And I mean, I guess

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01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 2: I understand that's what people people feel that, but it's

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Speaker 2: only because gay people weren't saying anything before. Like I

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Speaker 2: remember hearing in an interview with somebody like maybe Louie

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Speaker 2: or there's somebody who's working on a show.

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Speaker 1: It might have been Louis working on like Chris Rock Show.

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Speaker 2: And then when they said, you know, when he had

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Speaker 2: the Chris Rock Show on HBO, I think and I

1444
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 2: think there was maybe at some show where there's a

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01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 2: live audience component to it, and they're like, what do

1446
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Speaker 2: you want the breakdown of the audience to be? And

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01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,959
Speaker 2: they and they're he's like fifty to fifty black and white,

1448
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 2: you know, or as close to that as possible?

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Speaker 1: Is that the way?

1450
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 2: And they're like, great, we'll do like eighty percent white,

1451
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 2: twenty percent black, and that will look that will read

1452
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 2: as fifty to fifty to most people, like to the

1453
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 2: kind of like what to if a white Like if

1454
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Speaker 2: a white person they were like, if a white person

1455
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 2: look at an actual fifty to fifty white black crowd,

1456
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 2: like they would.

1457
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: Be like, there's that's more. That's I've ever seen that

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01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: many black people. They're overrunning the place, which there in

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01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: America currently, I don't know what percentage exactly black people

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Speaker 1: will comprise of the population thirty Yeah, it's certainly like

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Speaker 1: it's not more than twenty percent. It's right. So to

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Speaker 1: see a place where it is.

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Speaker 2: If not even majority, but half black people, you'd be like, oh,

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01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 2: that is not a representation of society at large.

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01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: So it is noteworthy, Like I.

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Speaker 4: Think, is uh there are black people here is twenty

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Speaker 4: percent and then like fifty percent? Is this is a

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Speaker 4: black audience to most of America? You know, it's like

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Speaker 4: what is this def comedy jam? Like what is kind

1470
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Speaker 4: of show as louis running here?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, And like I went to the Honestly, I

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01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 2: this is I haven't had a physical in like two years,

1474
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 2: so I went with my new Obamacare insurance and went

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01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 2: and got a physical today. And I went to uh someplace.

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01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 2: It was either I think it was like in Fort Green, Brooklyn.

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Speaker 2: I was somewhere around there and I live in Park Slope. Uh,

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01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 2: and I go to I go to Fort Green a

1479
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:28,919
Speaker 2: fair amount. But uh, and I didn't know that. I honestly,

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01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 2: I walked in and I was the only white person

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01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 2: in the waiting room. It was a packed waiting room,

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Speaker 2: and it was like literally like, you know, fifteen black

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01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 2: people and me, and then maybe one more white person

1484
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 2: came in while I was there, And I was like,

1485
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 2: why why am I thinking about this? Because I mean,

1486
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 2: who I'm like number one? I'm like, am I not

1487
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 2: allowed to be here?

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01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: You know? Like, did I did I come to the

1489
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Speaker 1: wrong doctors?

1490
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 5: On?

1491
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 2: Is it?

1492
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: Like? Honestly, I'm like, am I a racist for thinking

1493
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: any of this? Like?

1494
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 2: Am I is this like a barber shop thing? The

1495
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 2: doctor not know how to uh give me a physical?

1496
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, of course that doesn't make any sense.

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01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:05,919
Speaker 1: Uh.

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01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 4: By the way, this is the solution to the Seinfeld thing.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: If he would have done the first ten skits with

1501
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 4: only black comedians, everyone would have cared about diversity Oh yeah,

1502
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 4: everyone would have noticed that ship.

1503
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 3: Oh he's taking seriously, like where are the white people?

1504
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like it makes sense to say where are

1505
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 2: the anybody who's missing?

1506
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 1: Like not like accusatory, but like.

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01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 2: I mean the thing like the Saturday Live thing I'm

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01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 2: sure you've talked about, yeah, with Sashir getting hired Isa

1509
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 2: and then other you know, black females being hired to

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01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 2: write as well, Like it's the answer the thing about

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01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 2: when Seinfeld says something like uh, who cares? Uh, that

1512
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 2: isn't necessarily responsive to the question, Like when you know,

1513
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, like you could look at

1514
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,759
Speaker 2: what they have looked at Letterman and all the comedians

1515
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 2: who are on Letterman that year. I think it was

1516
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 2: like one woman, you know, maybe one or two non

1517
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 2: white people, and then you know twenty to forty white people,

1518
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 2: and like it's not to say, like, yes, white people

1519
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 2: make up the predominant, you know, like most of the

1520
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 2: population and most and even more of the population of comedians,

1521
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 2: Like most comedians are white men, for sure, but that

1522
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,879
Speaker 2: doesn't mean like in percentages, yes, but in whole numbers,

1523
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 2: like there are probably you know, thousands of comedians in

1524
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 2: this country or it's certainly thousands of people aspiring to

1525
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 2: be comedians working at being Like in New York at

1526
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 2: any given night, there's you know, twenty places where there's

1527
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 2: ten comedians each and sometimes they have the same comedians.

1528
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:41,799
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do the math.

1529
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 2: But there's you know, there's hundreds of comedians in New

1530
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 2: York City, hundreds in almost you know, in many cities

1531
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 2: that have hundreds of comedians, thousands of people. So there's

1532
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 2: absolutely like if you're like, oh man, Saturday Night Live

1533
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 2: has only ten people, so we can't find any Black women,

1534
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 2: didn't make any to say, like Seinfeld saying like, I

1535
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 2: mean Seinfeld's had like he had Tina Pee on the show,

1536
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 2: he had Sari Silverman, he had a couple of black

1537
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 2: gentlemen as well. You know, he had Chris Rock, he

1538
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 2: had who was the other black dude. I don't remember,

1539
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,799
Speaker 2: but I'm a racist.

1540
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, no, sorry, it would have been racist if

1541
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 4: you would have said he had Hannibal Verse and were like,

1542
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 4: that's not he wasn't on the ship.

1543
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 2: This was this is crazy that I was watching the

1544
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if you or how up to date

1545
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 2: are you with the manufactured outrage of today. But I

1546
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 2: just saw this that Samuel Jackson was on, like, oh,

1547
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 2: Fox Show or.

1548
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 5: Whatever, that's not outrageous, that's hilarious status.

1549
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 4: I was gonna play that clip on a Sean Wan

1550
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 4: to save it for tomorrow. I'm just enjoying listen to

1551
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 4: you talk. But that that was my shit, and he

1552
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 4: would not let that dude go.

1553
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 2: He wrote, here's the thing though, So for for people

1554
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 2: who don't know what happened, this is another thing that

1555
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 2: mostly doesn't matter, like that Samuel Jackson was on being

1556
01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 2: interviewed by a white dude and the white dude.

1557
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: Was like, so, uh, this is something as vague as

1558
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: like you're that had the super Bowl commercial for.

1559
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 2: You and then and Samuel Jackson was like, what super

1560
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 2: Bowl commercial? And the guy was like, uh, maybe I'm

1561
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 2: talking to the like.

1562
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: And it may have been that.

1563
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 2: Here's the thing I heard that guy and then Samuel

1564
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,839
Speaker 2: Jackson just ripped into him like I'm not Laurence Fishburn,

1565
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 2: I'm not you know, like Morgan Freeman. I'm like, there's

1566
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 2: many black people that do commercials right, and like.

1567
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,480
Speaker 1: He was saying it in a faux angry.

1568
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 3: Like it was almost like a comedian.

1569
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 4: It's almost like when a comedian has an audience member

1570
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 4: that says something and he's like, Okay, I'm gonna riff

1571
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 4: about this for a couple of minutes.

1572
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 2: It great, But then the commentary about that that followed,

1573
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 2: and this is I'm in I'm in this waiting room

1574
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 2: full of black people watching this thing, and I'm like,

1575
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 2: oh my god, what it doesn't matter.

1576
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 1: I'm just saying to tell you where I am. We're

1577
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: all enjoying it.

1578
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 2: But like then there's a couple of white people on

1579
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 2: the TV like talking with.

1580
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 1: That dude, and that dude just like, yeah, I made

1581
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: a mistake. I tried to apologie, and they're like, he

1582
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't even let you apologize. You were trying to apologize.

1583
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,799
Speaker 1: He just like was he really angry? Was he joking?

1584
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 1: And like, you guys are idiots? Oh my god, Like

1585
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,919
Speaker 1: he was clearly he's.

1586
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 2: Thought that you were racist briefly, Like you definitely did

1587
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 2: confuse him for a different black person. A thing that happens,

1588
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 2: and when it happens, you should feel bad and get

1589
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 2: called out for it. You're not You're not the worst

1590
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 2: person in the world, but you you're a news man.

1591
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: Maybe if you're gonna say something plan ahead, and he.

1592
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 4: Was just made to feel a little bit awkward, you know,

1593
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 4: minimum it was unprofessional, like he like he like you

1594
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 4: gotta know who you have. Like it'd be like if

1595
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 4: you come on the show and I start asking you

1596
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 4: questions for like a different comedian and be like, well

1597
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 4: hold up, now, I didn't do that shit, and that,

1598
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 4: you know, like is unprofessional. And it was kind of

1599
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 4: funny because we have the stereotype of all black people

1600
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 4: look alike.

1601
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 1: And to be fair, I mean, uh, that guy did

1602
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 1: when he was saying, like I was you know, we admit,

1603
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: I admitted my mistake. Like I admitted I made a mistake. Uh.

1604
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 2: And he you know, he wasn't like written into him

1605
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 2: or anything like because nobody it's not the hugest you

1606
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 2: know deal in the world.

1607
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 1: It's just the guy made a mistake. And like when

1608
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: you're a comedian and you make a mistake, like you

1609
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: make fun of yourself too, Like if you're like, oh,

1610
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: I screwed, Like if I were that dude, I would

1611
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 1: have just started calling him other black people's names.

1612
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 6: Oh I'm sorry, So she are you key or peel?

1613
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 6: They're the same guy, right, like you know, and and obviously,

1614
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 6: then you're making your you're you're making yourself the butt

1615
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 6: of the joke, but you're also in on the joke,

1616
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 6: you know, like we all make mistakes. And I think

1617
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 6: there is and here's the thing I might be stepping

1618
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 6: into it here. I think there is research that shows.

1619
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: That people of whatever you know, whatever race means, whatever

1620
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 1: race you are, like, you will be able to distinguish

1621
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: more nuanced differences between members of your own race.

1622
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's a race.

1623
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 4: That's that's scientifically true though, Like that's actually been proven

1624
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 4: with police sketches and stuff. How and how they say

1625
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 4: people describe other people. Like when white people describe like

1626
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 4: a black person, they may they might refer to something

1627
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 4: like their hair or maybe like their their.

1628
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 3: Eyes or something like that.

1629
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 4: Black people describe that that same criminal if that, if

1630
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 4: it was a black person they were describing, it would

1631
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 4: be like skin tone, things of that nature. You know,

1632
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 4: how wide their nose was, so like there's things that

1633
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 4: people notice. I don't think anything is racist about saying that.

1634
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Additionally, I think I've heard a study that says, like,

1635
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 2: you know, obviously there's racism indoctrinated into all of us,

1636
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 2: you know, even black people are biased against black people

1637
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 2: when like looking at like you know, as if looking

1638
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 2: at like a white person or a black person as

1639
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 2: a sketch, not even like a crime has been minute,

1640
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 2: but like yeah, what the the impression that you get

1641
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 2: from that is like, you know, is this person scarier

1642
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 2: than this person or is this person like more likely

1643
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 2: to be a criminal or more likely to be dangerous?

1644
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 2: Like white people and black people alike, will uh will

1645
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 2: be like yep, black people are scarier.

1646
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 4: Right, Because it's systematics, it gets ingrained into you. Like

1647
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 4: you said the megaphone thing, like it's not necessarily uh

1648
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 4: something you're wilfully thinking about. You just constantly get a

1649
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 4: drone of something in the background, and eventually you will

1650
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 4: kind of adopt it as your you know, as your

1651
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 4: value system.

1652
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 5: Karen, Yes, yes, you're making me think about when we

1653
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 5: had went to the Chinese place and about how.

1654
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 3: Or like to oh my god, we went. Now, look,

1655
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 3: this is a lot of places in America.

1656
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 4: So we went to a Chinese restaurant that was run

1657
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 4: by like Koreans, and then the and the menus actually

1658
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 4: like Vietnamese anyway, like most of the time what people

1659
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 4: know is Chinese.

1660
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 3: It is not Chinese food.

1661
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 4: And then lastly, Karen looks at all the menu items

1662
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 4: and decides to order a Japanese dish, and I'm and

1663
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 4: I'm like that, there's no fucking way that's good, Like,

1664
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 4: you know, that's like why, it's why the cheesecake factory sucks.

1665
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 4: No place makes four or five different nationalities of food good,

1666
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 4: you know. So she orders Japanese from this place and

1667
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 4: it's shitty, and she's.

1668
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 3: Looking at me like did they mess up to hibachi shrimp?

1669
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 3: And I'm like, of course they messed it up.

1670
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 4: Just stick with the normal numbered ship that everybody else

1671
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 4: sticks with because those are the only things that are

1672
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 4: edible here.

1673
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 1: Yes.

1674
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 5: Then I got mad. I was like, hey, what's my

1675
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 5: shrimp sauce? I was like, this is not what the

1676
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 5: fuck I want.

1677
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 3: It's like they don't have that ship here, but it was.

1678
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 2: It was the oatmeal. It's a web comic. There was

1679
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 2: an omial comic where it was like in New York City,

1680
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 2: here's like how you get Asian food. And then there's

1681
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 2: like five different building It's like tie place, Japanese place,

1682
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 2: Vietnamese place, Chinese place, Korean place. And then it's like

1683
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 2: in the you know, in the middle of the country.

1684
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 2: Here's how you get your your Asian food. And it's

1685
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 2: like one building and it's like Ti Japanese, Korean, Chinese,

1686
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:14,440
Speaker 2: Vietnamese place.

1687
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 3: Right, It's like get all of it here. I was like,

1688
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 3: and uh, I remember.

1689
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 4: I was just like that was a they all look

1690
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 4: alike moment for kar because she she knows what Japanese

1691
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 4: food is.

1692
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 3: We've had food a Jaese place and I was like, yeah, yeah, habachi.

1693
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1694
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 3: I was like, what were you thinking? But yeah, it

1695
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 3: was just one of those moments.

1696
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 4: Mike, you got lucky because if they were only showing uh,

1697
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,600
Speaker 4: the Samuel Jackson clip, then you got off lucky. In

1698
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 4: a room full of black people, there's this dude on

1699
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 4: trial today for shooting some innocent black kids because they

1700
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 4: had their music up too loud, and he he went

1701
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 4: on the stand to defend himself, and everybody was like

1702
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 4: talking about that on social media and stuff.

1703
01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 3: I had to opt out. I was like, I can't

1704
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 3: can't go through this shit again.

1705
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 4: But but it was like, if they would have been

1706
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 4: watching that, I feel like then maybe you would have

1707
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 4: been the person that didn't belong.

1708
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 3: You would have had to go get a physical another day.

1709
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: Or something, or at least i'd be in the right place.

1710
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: You know, things got violent. Well, you know, helps me

1711
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 1: up what seems to be the problem your office. I

1712
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: got to say that.

1713
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 3: It'll be the only time.

1714
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 4: It could be the only time that you want to

1715
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 4: be in the waiting room walking like you want to.

1716
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 4: It's like, you know what, doctor, take your time, wait

1717
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 4: on some of the patients.

1718
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 3: Come back when everyone's taken care of.

1719
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: Yep, you guys, you guys first.

1720
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 5: I would be the last to go.

1721
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 1: I'll be at the back of this waiting room bus.

1722
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 4: Neither here nor there. Rose and bars fat and I

1723
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 4: hate her. Shirley Temple dead at eighty five. She's died today.

1724
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 3: Guys. Everybody remembers her as a child actress.

1725
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 5: And for some reason, don't ask me why, I already

1726
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 5: thought she was dead, because all I see her as

1727
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 5: like a little kid the rat time my animal crack

1728
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 5: was in my soup, since I was.

1729
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 3: Like eight years old.

1730
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 5: And yeah, I already thought she's.

1731
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 3: So old, like when she was a child.

1732
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 4: She has a film that she did in blackface, and

1733
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 4: she's so old that we all know it's okay, that's old.

1734
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 3: You know, like there's not too many people that old.

1735
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 4: It's left where you could be like, oh yeah, that

1736
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 4: was that time when that was acceptable.

1737
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 3: But hey, I was a kid. I know you better

1738
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:27,600
Speaker 3: go all right, that's cool, you know, you know.

1739
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Two quick things.

1740
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 2: One, Uh, there's a comedian in Boston named Chance Langton.

1741
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 2: I believe this is he had a he's like been

1742
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 2: doing comedy since the eighties, and he had a joke

1743
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 2: about when he's like when I was. When I was

1744
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:43,639
Speaker 2: a child, I first saw Shirley temple on in a movie.

1745
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 1: She was eight and I was eight. I fell in

1746
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: love with her.

1747
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 2: Then then the next month she was doing like a

1748
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 2: signing at the mall. I was eight and she was fifty, right,

1749
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 2: And then this is a thing. Do you guys know

1750
01:20:58,600 --> 01:20:59,759
Speaker 2: what JL coved?

1751
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's been on the show, f riend of

1752
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 3: the show, all that stuff.

1753
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,560
Speaker 2: It was really funny because you know he is a

1754
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 2: half black, half white dude.

1755
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 1: Yes.

1756
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 4: Uh.

1757
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 2: And he he put out a new his web series,

1758
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 2: Comedy Academy.

1759
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, Comedy Academy all not parts.

1760
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 4: Yeah we we uh put it on the on the

1761
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 4: website and all that stuff.

1762
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 3: We love, yeah, we love it.

1763
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,759
Speaker 2: Like there's uh, there's one where he does a JB

1764
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 2: smooth impression. That is a great JB smooth impression. But legitimately,

1765
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 2: I don't know what this says about uh me as

1766
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 2: a as a.

1767
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 1: A person who remembers things.

1768
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 2: And yeah, but I was like watching it, like it

1769
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 2: looked like he, you know, JB's move is a darker

1770
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 2: skinned person than Jail, So JL like put on makeup

1771
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 2: or did some you know, not blackface per se. But

1772
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 2: I was like, because I'm like, oh my god, can

1773
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 2: he wait a second?

1774
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 1: Oh wait, no, he is put on blacker face.

1775
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 4: I guess yeah it was, and it was for articulation,

1776
01:21:56,439 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 4: which is hilarious if you know, uh JV smooths addiction.

1777
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: He's move and then watch that impression and it's good.

1778
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: He does some good impressions.

1779
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 4: I told him I was gonna wait till that part

1780
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 4: came out and then go and feign outrage on Twitter

1781
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 4: and like really just drum up like a lot of

1782
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 4: great and just to help him out. But like at

1783
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 4: the end, I just couldn't do it because like I

1784
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 4: do like him, and I felt like any like it

1785
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 4: would only be two or three posts inn before I

1786
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 4: was like, all right, guys, listen, he's not that bad,

1787
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 4: you know, so I couldn't do it last thing before

1788
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 4: we get you out of.

1789
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 3: Here, Mike.

1790
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: Sure. Sure.

1791
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 4: They announced today Comedy Central Half Hours that everybody didding

1792
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 4: for twenty fourteen?

1793
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 3: Do you know all these people?

1794
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: Are you gonna read them to me? Or should I listen?

1795
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna read them to you. I will.

1796
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,600
Speaker 1: I did look at the list. I do know personally

1797
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: most of them.

1798
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:53,719
Speaker 2: They're mostly my friends, but I do not know everybody,

1799
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 2: so go for it.

1800
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 1: Adam Newman Adam Newman, friend of mine.

1801
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 4: Barry Rothbart friend of mine, Chris di Stefano.

1802
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 2: Chris, I believe it's pronounced the Stefano a friend of mine.

1803
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 2: We've so far all three of those people have been

1804
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 2: on my podcast, so you can check them out. Chris Gethard,

1805
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:12,719
Speaker 2: Chris Gethard been on the podcast a couple of times.

1806
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 2: Good friend, so I'm last night. Damian Lemon, Damien Lemon

1807
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 2: been on the podcast.

1808
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 3: Friend Fortune Famester.

1809
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 2: I thought it was yeah, I'm not sure how to

1810
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 2: pronounce it, but we are for I was actually on

1811
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 2: a show last year about a year ago with her.

1812
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 2: It was Fortune Themester and Friends, so or Fortune Finster

1813
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 2: and Friends. Not sure, but I'm her friend, but not

1814
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 2: enough to know her last name is pronunciation Joe Wingert.

1815
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 2: Joe Wingert is a guy who I'm I think I'm

1816
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 2: least familiar with.

1817
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 1: I don't know that I know him if we've met.

1818
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Joe, but I you're the person I remember

1819
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 2: least from this list.

1820
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:51,879
Speaker 4: The most unfortunate name on comedy right now. Joe Zimmerman.

1821
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: Oh, of course, Joe Zimmerman is the nicest guy. Legitimately.

1822
01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 2: He is such a sweetheart. He's a good friend. We've

1823
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 2: done a bunch of shows together. He watches Craig ferguson

1824
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:07,640
Speaker 2: set get his His debut album just came out. It

1825
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 2: is super. He toured with a group called The Beards

1826
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:14,759
Speaker 2: of Comedy. They're funny guys. Joe Zimmerman great for comedy.

1827
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 4: I'm signing up to fight him, so, okay, you gain.

1828
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 4: We'll see what happens that beer. Yeah, I have to

1829
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 4: do a lot of crap first. Kurt bron Oler.

1830
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 1: Kurt brown Oler, super funny and a friend. Definitely, of course,

1831
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: Mark Norman. Mark Norman just got an email from him.

1832
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I got an email from him because a good

1833
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 2: friend of mine.

1834
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 1: I hope it's okay to plug a friend.

1835
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, my friend Ken Reid, a guy who I started

1836
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 2: doing commed with.

1837
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 3: You know what, I have a lot of friends that

1838
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,719
Speaker 3: can read. Also, Oh yeah, yeah.

1839
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: Yeah he can't has his name. His first name is Ken.

1840
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 1: His last name is R. E. I. D. Ken Reid. Uh.

1841
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 2: He just released his first episode of his first podcast,

1842
01:24:56,479 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 2: which is called TV Guidance counselor Where We As.

1843
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 1: The theme is people.

1844
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 2: He Kenneth loves, I mean, grew up on TV movies,

1845
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 2: pop culture. His house is full of every movie he's

1846
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 2: ever seen. He has TV guides from like the eighties

1847
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 2: and nineties. You go to his house, you pick out

1848
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 2: a TV guide from like I had one from nineteen

1849
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 2: ninety two. And the episode just came out today, like a.

1850
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 1: Couple hours ago.

1851
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 2: You can listen to me and Ken and me talking

1852
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 2: about the choices that I made of what I would

1853
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 2: watch during prime time every night of that week from

1854
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 2: that TV guide, and Ken tells me the decisions he

1855
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 2: would have made, the things I got wrong, the things

1856
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 2: I got right, you know, And it's just a great

1857
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 2: framework for a conversation. And since they're doing the half

1858
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 2: hours in Boston, Ken asked me he's like, Hey, who

1859
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 2: do you think would be good to do my podcast?

1860
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 2: And I sent out some emails and Mark was one

1861
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 2: that just got back to me. So Mark normand friend. Cool.

1862
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:53,640
Speaker 1: What about Michael Shea Michael Jay Friend? Haven't gotten him

1863
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:57,600
Speaker 1: on the podcast yet? Would have asked, definitely, he's a

1864
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: busy guy these days. But we did.

1865
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 2: We did a show together a couple weeks ago and

1866
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 2: we do them frequently.

1867
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:04,799
Speaker 1: We are friendly.

1868
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 3: His name is everywhere. Rachel Fininstein.

1869
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 1: Good friend.

1870
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 2: Also recently chatted with emailed and we did last Comic

1871
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 2: Standing together. That's I think when we got to be

1872
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 2: closer than we had been. But yeah, you know, you

1873
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 2: see these are I think a lot of them are

1874
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 2: from New York. So I see him around New York

1875
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 2: A ton Ron Funches, hilarious.

1876
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 1: Do you know Ron Ron? Oh?

1877
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 2: You guys should He's a black gentleman like yourself. I mean,

1878
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 2: everybody's different. He's not exactly like you, but he is.

1879
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 2: Watch his cone and set like what go look up

1880
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 2: Ron Funches. After we get off this phone, after we

1881
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 2: get off this computer phone.

1882
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: Because he is a delight. I love him and he's great.

1883
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 2: Tommy Johnagan, Tommy Johnagan, he also from my last Comic

1884
01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 2: Standing days and the last Comic Standing tour afterwards.

1885
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 1: We are friends and.

1886
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 2: Yaps Yannis Papas Uh might be might be pronounced Yannis, but.

1887
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 3: Oh yeah it is.

1888
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 2: You're right, it might be Yanis pappas Yan's papas Yanis

1889
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 2: PAPIs Jonas opis.

1890
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 1: Uh.

1891
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yannis pappas I think is what I say. I

1892
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 2: could be wrong, but it's no. I'm pretty sure, more

1893
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 2: sure than I was.

1894
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 1: Unfortune but unfortunate on that one. Fortunate here is her. Yeah,

1895
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,600
Speaker 1: Janis also used to I think he lives in I

1896
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 1: just kind of lives in Miami. Now. I was just

1897
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: down in Miami. I didn't see him, but he used to.

1898
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 1: Before he moved.

1899
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 2: There ran a show in Park Slope every Sunday that

1900
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 2: I would go to as frequently as possible. Good guy,

1901
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 2: good great, great set of comedians. So yeah, Joe Wengert's

1902
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 2: the only one who I think. I have friends who

1903
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,640
Speaker 2: know him and say that he's hilarious as well. Uh

1904
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,600
Speaker 2: so good choices, half hour selectors.

1905
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 4: So last question, Uh, if you had to take one

1906
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 4: off so you could get on, who would it be?

1907
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess even though I hear he's funny.

1908
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 1: The only person that I don't know and so feel

1909
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,799
Speaker 1: less mad about would be Joe Weggers.

1910
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 3: And that's how Seinfeld cast a shit.

1911
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 5: Man.

1912
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 3: It's not racist, it's just science.

1913
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 1: Man.

1914
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 3: You just got to take the dudes you don't know and.

1915
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: You don't work with them, and I left all the

1916
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:22,719
Speaker 1: black people.

1917
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate it, man, you have a very diverse cast.

1918
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:29,759
Speaker 4: All right, last thing and we're out of here. Sword ratchiness.

1919
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 4: We always talk about it. A lot of people have

1920
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 4: swords out here and are not being responsible. In this case,

1921
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 4: a spartanburg Man has been charged with the tempted murder

1922
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,719
Speaker 4: less than a week after being arrested for a neglect

1923
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 4: of seven children in his home. Oh yeah, we talked

1924
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:47,600
Speaker 4: about this a long time ago when we did a

1925
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 4: guest the race and it was just guess the racist guy,

1926
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,799
Speaker 4: and I had no idea he also had a sword involved.

1927
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 4: Shriff's deputy Mark Shannon Winkler, forty held a bayonet to

1928
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 4: his mother's I mean they say that he's not a deputy.

1929
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:03,600
Speaker 3: They say the deputy said that he did this.

1930
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, he held a bayonet to his mother's throat and

1931
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 4: then stabbed her in the stomach with the sword. The

1932
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 4: deputies were called to the home around three thirty pm,

1933
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 4: so he did in the middle of the day, and

1934
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 4: they had an argument over his wife's medication.

1935
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 3: Lariza Pan. Yeah that sounds like, yeah, that sounds pretty

1936
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 3: I thought you.

1937
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:25,680
Speaker 1: Were saying her name.

1938
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 3: That sounds like you rub on yourself, Lorosa Parks. Just

1939
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 3: in time for Black History.

1940
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 4: Winkler took fifteen of the pills, according to the sheriffs,

1941
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Speaker 4: and apparently went crazy with his sword on his mom,

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Speaker 4: stibbing her in the stomach.

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Speaker 3: She refused treatment from emergency emergency medical services, and she

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Speaker 3: also didn't want him to be arrested.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, even though he had stabbed in the stomach and

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Speaker 4: had neglected his seven children. The point of this is

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Speaker 4: if you of somebody, what you don't want to do

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Speaker 4: is give them drugs and a sword. Okay, people, we

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Speaker 4: talk about this constantly. It is getting dangerous. I hate

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Speaker 4: to see people. People will stab their own mothers with

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Speaker 4: these swords. Guys, there's no such thing as a display

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Speaker 4: sword and a bay and that is even worse because

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Speaker 4: it's attaches to a gun.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: Oh, that's the Oh, that's the one with the point

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Speaker 5: up with the with the sword on the end of

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Speaker 5: the gun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like with those Civil warring actors using ship

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 1: Stab.

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Speaker 3: It's the worst kind of sword weapon.

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Speaker 4: It's a sword attached to a gun that's probably held

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Speaker 4: by Adde that identifies with the racism of the South.

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Speaker 4: It's nothing positive coming from this situation, but everybody's been warned.

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Speaker 4: We'll be back tomorrow, UH at seven. Thank you so

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Speaker 4: much to Mike Kaplan the Hangout with Me podcast where

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Speaker 4: you can find it keithing theegirl dot com slash hang

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Speaker 4: You can also find the latest episode on on iTunes.

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Speaker 4: Makes you go to Mike Kaplan dot com which is

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Speaker 4: n y Q and follow him on on Twitter Mike Kaplan,

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Speaker 4: Like I said, man, very funny uh tweet tweeter.

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Speaker 3: You will not regret following him. You should already be

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Speaker 3: following him, no problem. Thank you Mike. Until tomorrow, I

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Speaker 3: love you.