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Speaker 2: All right, break it down. If you ever have feelings

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Speaker 2: Anna spirit where it's all the phone over real stuff

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Speaker 1: Amy and Kat.

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Speaker 3: Happy Tuesday. Welcome to feeling. Thanks. I'm Amy and.

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Speaker 1: I'm Cat and I am starting with the feeling of

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Speaker 1: the day. I'm feeling relieved.

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Speaker 3: Oh. I don't know what you're relief from. But you know,

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Speaker 3: my favorite thing about relief whenever I hear relief or relief, like,

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Speaker 3: I exhale. So it's like, to me, relief is permission

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Speaker 3: to exhale. Yeah, you made it exhale.

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Speaker 1: Well I actually did do that. Okay, So I'll get

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Speaker 1: into why I'm relief. But at the same time, my

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Speaker 1: relief comes with a lot of excitement. It's a lot

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Speaker 1: of convoluted stuff. I was in my therapist's office talking

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Speaker 1: feel in your body or something along those lines. Very therapisty,

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Speaker 1: and I said, I feel like I can just breathe.

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Speaker 3: Really, yeah, I did not know. Obviously, I don't even

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Speaker 3: know exactly what you're gonna say. And I had no

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Speaker 3: idea that you had that moment with your therapist. But

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Speaker 1: That's just the gift.

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Speaker 3: Like we sometimes you talk about the gifts or the

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Speaker 1: And so it was funny as I was talking to

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Speaker 3: Well, so what are we relieved about?

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Speaker 1: Yes, we want to exhale. Tell you, are we going

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Speaker 1: when I sit down with it. So I was reading

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Speaker 1: this new book called Rich Girl Nation by Katie Gaddie Tassin.

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Speaker 3: Katie Gaddy Tassin Gaddy tussin.

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Speaker 1: Her instagram is at Money with Katie. If you're not

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Speaker 1: following her, highly recommend it. She is a finance expert,

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Speaker 1: but she specializes in helping women with finance, and she

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Speaker 1: and the economy and all that. It looks like you're

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I recommend her because she doesn't talk down

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Speaker 3: to get an eyebrow transplant. But uh, people in Turkey, Yes,

434
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 3: it is more affordable and way faster, Like they have

435
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 3: a whole team. He said, it was so crazy. They're

436
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 3: so efficient over there, whereas here you might go to

437
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,199
Speaker 3: a doctor and there's like one person working on you

438
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,360
Speaker 3: and it may take like all day. Over there, there's

439
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 3: a whole team of people and you'll be in and out.

440
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 3: So where is here a doctor might do a procedure

441
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 3: or two a day. Over there, they can knock out

442
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 3: ten people in a day, so they can make it

443
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 3: more affordable. Wow. And he said it's one of the

444
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 3: best decisions he ever made. And he was just feeling

445
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 3: really self conscious about the loss of his hair. And

446
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 3: then Joel McHale was on a podcast recently talking about it.

447
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 3: You know the guy from the soup and.

448
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 1: From the soup from the scenes. Has he done anything.

449
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 3: Else the animal something? Animal control? Is that not right?

450
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 1: You had an animal show?

451
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like I read in an

452
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 3: article when I saw the podcast sing something about animal control.

453
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 1: Okay, but I know him from the soup.

454
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Speaker 3: So he said that he's had four hand hair transplants

455
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 3: over the years. I think because with a technology, the

456
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 3: evolution of the project, I want a better I need

457
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 3: to get a better one, because he started off with

458
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,640
Speaker 3: one process and it's like, oh, you've advanced it. So

459
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 3: he said, he said four in total. I mean in

460
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 3: his hair is looking.

461
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 1: I feel like his hair has always looked pretty thick.

462
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 3: No, whenever I googled it to look it up, because

463
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 3: this is something I didn't even know. We were talking

464
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 3: about this we talked about this on the Bobby Bone Show,

465
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 3: and so I googled it when we were talking about

466
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 3: it there, and I saw the pictures. Wow. And so

467
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 3: that's what also has hair transplant from being top of

468
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 3: mind that he wanted to be transparent about his transplants,

469
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 3: and I was like, good for you, But I don't

470
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 3: think that everybody has to be open and transparent about

471
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 3: everything they've done, although that has been a thing right

472
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 3: now with like Kylie Jenner did that with her boob job.

473
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 3: Like some girl on TikTok was like, Kylie, I just

474
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 3: saw your boobs and I'm about to get a boob job,

475
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,959
Speaker 3: and I just like to know exactly what you had

476
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 3: done because they are perfect. And so Kylie just responded, Hey,

477
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 3: I got seas and triple a little bit. I don't

478
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 3: know the lingo, but she gave every detail that her

479
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 3: doctor did half under the muscle, half over, I don't know.

480
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 3: And then the girl on because the girl on TikTok

481
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 3: had gone viral and there's Kylie. Yeah, so I guess

482
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 3: she took that information and probably did a lot of

483
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: other people. They look really good. Uh, they took that

484
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 3: information and then they probably went to their doctor, but

485
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 3: everyone was praising the fact they thought it was so

486
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 3: cool that Kylie was just transparent about it. And yes,

487
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 3: I think it's cool to be transparent if you want

488
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 3: to be, and then if you don't want to be.

489
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 3: There's also a difference between what what are you guys

490
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 3: seeing that? Well?

491
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Speaker 1: I just think that that becomes problematic, Like when we

492
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 1: were talking about like the face fitness stuff, Like if

493
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: somebody's saying, like, all I do is wash my face

494
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 1: and use this serum and I look like this and

495
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: behind the scenes they're getting botox and filler and I've

496
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: had a facelift, That's okay, that's true. I guess I'm

497
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: talking to like the normal.

498
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, every like like we're not We're not gonna lie

499
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Speaker 3: about it.

500
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: I think there's a difference in like privacy and then

501
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: like lying.

502
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 3: Okay, they're privacy and secrecy, but what like what if

503
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 3: you did want to do something a little more drastic

504
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 3: to your face and you really it is a personal

505
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 3: decision and you don't want anybody to know, but you

506
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 3: get flat out asked by it on a public space.

507
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 3: Are you supposed to what are you supposed to do?

508
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 3: It is a personal decision. And you don't want anybody

509
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,239
Speaker 3: to know, but you get flat out asked by it

510
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 3: on a public space. Are you supposed to what are

511
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 3: you supposed to do? But you didn't want to talk

512
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: about it.

513
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,719
Speaker 1: I think I probably would find a way to like

514
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: answer the question but not answer it. I played the

515
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: fifth but something, you know how. I think celebrities in

516
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: general get coached on how to avoid those kinds of questions.

517
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 1: I think it becomes a problem when like you are

518
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: promoting one thing, like I'm promoting the skincare product, but

519
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: I didn't get this skin from this product. I got

520
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: this skin from surgery, right or something more that is problematic.

521
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: I could debate this both ways from my own mind.

522
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 3: You know, have you seen there's a plastic surgeon. I

523
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 3: don't know, he's out of la but he had a funny, little,

524
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 3: real mean thing the other day. He was filming one

525
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 3: of his colleagues who's a female plastic surgeon, and it's

526
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 3: like those the meme videos where it's like, you know,

527
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 3: she doesn't know it yet, but she's about to, you

528
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 3: know the thing. It's like a trend. Oh yeah, but

529
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 3: he doesn't know it yet, but she's about well, but

530
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 3: this one he did it with her, Well, normally they're inspiring.

531
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: Oh, I get the depressing one, the one she doesn't

532
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: know yet, but she's about to like touch the seashell

533
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: and become paralyzed. Oh my god, Yeah, that's what I get.

534
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: What's wrong with.

535
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 3: Cad. I get the like she doesn't know it yet,

536
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 3: but she's about to embark on the greatest journey and

537
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 3: like ever in her life is going to change. She's

538
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 3: going to meet the man of her dreams.

539
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: Mind's like, she doesn't know it yet, but her she's

540
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: gonna walk in on her boyfriend cheating on her.

541
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 3: Oh god, I've like she doesn't know it yet, but

542
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 3: she's about to score a perfect you know gray on

543
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 3: this test and then become a world renowned doctor. Yeah.

544
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that.

545
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: You have.

546
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: What is giving me this stuff?

547
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's interesting.

548
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: Okay.

549
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 3: So his was funny but also sad because he's like,

550
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 3: she doesn't know yet, but she's about to go perform

551
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 3: a facelift on an influencer that two months later it

552
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: is going to claim that to her followers that her

553
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: face is this way because of Guasha. Yes, and she's

554
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 3: going to sell some Guasha tool to like all of

555
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: her followers and like not disclose. So that's what I

556
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: think you're talking about, Like that is a problem. But

557
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 3: I guess if someone doesn't want to say like me

558
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: even thinking, like in your friend group, like say you

559
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: choose to have something done and you show up and

560
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 3: your friends are like, huh, something looks different, like did

561
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 3: you get something done?

562
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: Like what do you do?

563
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 3: If you're like you don't want your friends to know.

564
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: What do you say and you don't tell them? I

565
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: guess but you say, oh, I just I got a

566
00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,959
Speaker 1: lot of rest sleep, does wonders? Oh, oh, you know,

567
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: you know, drinking lots of water. I went to the sauna. Yeah, yeah,

568
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: that's tough. I don't think there there's a blanket answer

569
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: for that.

570
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: Because I think I'm trying to be private about it.

571
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: How if you're trying to be private, then I guess

572
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: that's your prerogative. I would be curious of why wouldn't

573
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: you want your close friends to know that if you

574
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: don't think there's anything wrong with it.

575
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 3: M okay, so fine, it could be your close friends.

576
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: So that's but then, but not everybody needs to know

577
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. I think that you're right, there's

578
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: not everybody needs to know that you go to therapy,

579
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: what you talk about in therapy. Not everybody needs to

580
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: know like why you look that way, what medical procedures

581
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: you've done. Not everybody needs to know that. But I

582
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: think I would ask, I am getting something like botox,

583
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't I want somebody to know that. That means

584
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: that to me, there might be something in there that's

585
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 1: shame around it.

586
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 3: Or or they don't want to feel if or maybe your.

587
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: Friends don't like it and your friends are going to

588
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: judge you for it, Then like I get that, and

589
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: maybe we need to have a conversation with those friends.

590
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, find if you want your friends to be supportive,

591
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 3: but you don't have to like go find totally new friends.

592
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: Yes I didn't mean that, but I actually do understand that,

593
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: Like if there's somebody that you know there would be

594
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: very judgmental and you wouldn't want their opinion, then like

595
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: I get not feeling uneasy about that. And that's where

596
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: that like secrecy and privacy stuff comes in.

597
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 3: Like the difference And we've talked about this too before

598
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: with Brene Brown said about the vulnerability. I think you're

599
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 3: the one that quoted her, I can't remember the exact quote.

600
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 3: Maybe if I start talking about it, it'll jog you

601
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: your memory. But like some people will hear, oh, I

602
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: need to be more vulnerable, and so that means I

603
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 3: think they need to put it all out there for

604
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: everybody on social media.

605
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: It's like manufactured vulnerability, right.

606
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 3: But being vulnerable doesn't mean telling the whole world, not

607
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 3: in all of your things.

608
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: It's not information like vulnerability is in relationship with people.

609
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: Vulnerability is me sharing something with you and there's uncertainty

610
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: in it, not me posting something in order to get

611
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: a reaction. Makes sense.

612
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, shout out Joe McHale for his vulnerability and

613
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: transparent about his transplants because he does that. Yeah. I

614
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: feel like we're we're constantly having to as women. When

615
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 3: you talk about the wheel that we're on, it's like

616
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: we have to if we want to step off. There's

617
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: unlearning that has to happen. Yeah, I mean that's what

618
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: it re establish like what we want and that's.

619
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: Hard and what do I actually believe versus what have

620
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: I've been taught to believe? Yeah, that is some of

621
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: the hardest work that I do with people in therapy.

622
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: We have for everybody a little choose your heart. It's

623
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 3: like choose your adventure, choose your hard So Kat and

624
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: are going to go back and forth on what it's hard,

625
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: because re establishing is hard. On learning is hard. Not

626
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: having money for retirement is hard. So assessing where you're

627
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: spending it and trying to put some money away because

628
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: we're not getting any younger around here.

629
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: But not doing all of the things that you're used

630
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: to doing that make you feel good is hard.

631
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 3: That's hard, Yeah, letting go of that stuff. And I

632
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: will say, yes, I really really struggled with no Botoks.

633
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 3: But if I do decide to go back to it,

634
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: I feel like I'll feel more excited or empowered about it.

635
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 3: I know exactly what doing, I know why I'm doing it,

636
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna know like that I want this amount

637
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,239
Speaker 3: maybe TBD, maybe I do something else. I don't know.

638
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 3: I have some things to think about. This is inspired

639
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: by an article that I saw in Harvard What is

640
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: that from Harvard Health? Harwood?

641
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: What is that from?

642
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 3: I don't know? I like it it is. It is

643
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: a famous movie quote. But all I can think about

644
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: is in Legally Blonde and she's like, what, like it's hard.

645
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, it actually is. Yeah, it's hard. Uh ha.

646
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: Shoot.

647
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: I know people are listening right now and they're like,

648
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: we know exactly what that is. We don't have shand

649
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 3: I'm here today to look it up.

650
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: You've talked about that before.

651
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: I probably have to say it, okay, But I mean

652
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: sometimes you can again into the back of your brain

653
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: and retrieve whatever it is, and then sometimes you just

654
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 3: can't welcome to my brain choose your heart. So I'm

655
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: going to say something that's hard, and then kat is

656
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 3: gonna follow it up with the relatable thing of the

657
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: opposite of what is hard. So like both are hard,

658
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: you get to choose which one you want to be in.

659
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 4: Growing is hard, stay the same as hard. Believing in

660
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 4: yourself is hard, Doubting yourself is hard, Taking risks is hard.

661
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: Stain in your comfort zone is hard.

662
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 3: Setting boundaries is hard.

663
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: Not having boundaries is hard.

664
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 4: Forgiving is hard. Holding grudges is also hard. Saying no

665
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 4: is hard, Saying yes.

666
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: To everything is hard.

667
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: Loving yourself is hard.

668
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: Hating yourself is hard.

669
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 4: Healing is hard, Stain wounded is hard, Being vulnerable is hard.

670
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: Building walls is hard.

671
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: Having a tough conversation is hard.

672
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: Living with unspoken resentment is hard.

673
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: Doing that was hard. But I just thought it paints

674
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 3: a good picture of like, this is hard, and then

675
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: what you were saying was the opposite, and it's like,

676
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: but that's also hard. So that's part of the adventure.

677
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: Choose your heart.

678
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, like which hard do you want to sit in?

679
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: It reminds me of like the Instagram quote life is hard,

680
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: get a helmet. It's not very helpful, but like, I

681
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: think that's like a tough love type of but yeah, yeah,

682
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: life is hard, so we can't avoid all of the hard.

683
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: But like choose which already one? I think that it's

684
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: just good a good reminder that, yes, like growth is hard.

685
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: Or if you want to read that book and you're

686
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: in the first two chapters and you know, taking a

687
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 3: look at your finances, like so set aside, hot Girl,

688
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: Hamster Wheel, what if it's just like a challenge you

689
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: in a way to look at your finances. I mean

690
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 3: I had to do that in my divorce and that

691
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: was hard. But also ignoring it and being ignorant to

692
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: it and just spending blindly, how that would be really hard,

693
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 3: Having anxiety, getting a lump in my throat every time

694
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 3: I had to talk about finances because I felt so

695
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: overwhelmed by it. That was hard. Yeah, you know what's

696
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 3: good now is like I can log in and look

697
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: at spreadsheets and look at numbers and go to my

698
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 3: Rocket money app and I know exactly where everything's going

699
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: and I can open it up without getting a lump

700
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: in my throat, Whereas I used to get a lump,

701
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: and it was just because I was completely detached from it.

702
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 3: I didn't even give myself the opportunity. I was too

703
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: there's too much fear there and I had spent so

704
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 3: many years avoiding it. So stepping into that was hard,

705
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: But which is harder continuing to live that way? So

706
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: choose your hard. People are probably gonna listen to that

707
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 3: over we're and nowhere, like let me rewind that make

708
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 3: it your ring.

709
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: Down, or you're gonna call back town when people call you,

710
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: that's what they hear.

711
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: Choose your heart. It's like growing is hard, staying the

712
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 3: same as hard. Believing in yourself is hard. You know,

713
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: it's hard finding your car in a parking garage, at

714
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 3: least for me.

715
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: Well, I can relate. So what makes you bring this up?

716
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 3: Well? So Alex and I went to the mall my boyfriend,

717
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: and we parked on green level two. The poles were

718
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 3: green and it was level two, and so we're getting

719
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 3: out of the car and we're walking and we go

720
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 3: up multiple escalators, and to me, I was like, over

721
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 3: and over in my head green level two, Green level two,

722
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 3: green green, green level two, and I'm looking for and

723
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, venning machine there, green level two. Which

724
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 3: sometimes I take a picture, which that probably would be better,

725
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 3: but for whatever reason, it's not what I was doing.

726
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 3: I just was giving myself little reminders so that I

727
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 3: can make my way back to the car. And he's like,

728
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: what are you doing? And I was like, you don't

729
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: have to do this, and he's like, no, I know

730
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 3: exactly where we parked. And I'm like, so you're telling

731
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 3: me we're going to go into the mall and you're

732
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 3: gonna walk all around the mall to all different stores,

733
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: up and down, round and round, and then you're gonna

734
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,959
Speaker 3: know where we parked.

735
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, what do you have a photographic memory?

736
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 3: No, but he's like, I know exactly where we parked,

737
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: green level two and story around the corner, and the

738
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 3: mind matuement, and I'm.

739
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you only know that because you listen to

740
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: me song.

741
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: Now He's like, I know exactly where we are, and

742
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, leave the things I have to do

743
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 3: to remember, like where I parked, and if I don't

744
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 3: do that, and that's this is me learning my lesson.

745
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 3: That's why now I either take pictures or I sing

746
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: little songs and I do a little reminders because if

747
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 3: I just if I'm distracted, I'm I'm on the phone

748
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 3: and I park and I get out of my car

749
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 3: and I go in and do whatever. I will get

750
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 3: back on the elevator or descalator and I'll be like,

751
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 3: I have no idea where I don't know. I have

752
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 3: no idea. Am I going to three? Four, five, six?

753
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.

754
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: So this is a little timely that you up because

755
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: I was on the phone with you. How you were.

756
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: I parked in this parking garage today. It's going to

757
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: the doctor, and the last time I went there, I

758
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 1: got lost. But I told myself that's not gonna happen

759
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: today because it's just not I learned more about the building,

760
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: so I thought I would understand. Well, I leave my appointment,

761
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: which there are a couple things happened that now I'm thinking,

762
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: like we're so oddly embarrassing, but like really weren't embarrassing.

763
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: One being I got on the elevator to leave, and

764
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: you could either go to the lobby or to the garage.

765
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: Those are the buttons. I didn't know which one it was,

766
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: so I pressed both of them and I was like,

767
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: I'll just do both and see which one it is.

768
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: But then more people got in the elevator and I

769
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: was like, they can't know that I don't know where

770
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm going. Yeah, So then it got to one. I

771
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: just got off and I was like walked around a

772
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: little bit, and I was like, well, maybe I'll just

773
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: I thought maybe I could figure it out from there,

774
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: but like really I needed to get back on the

775
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: elevator and go back down, but that would have been

776
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: like too much. So then I end up getting to

777
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: the parking garage and I can see my car, I

778
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: can hear my car when I'm clicking it, but I

779
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: cannot figure out how to get to it. At one point,

780
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: I stopped and I pretended that I was on the

781
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: phone and like walking laps around the parking garage getting

782
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: my steps in because I didn't want people to know

783
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: that I was lost in the parking garage. It just

784
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: felt so embarrassing that like people were walking around and

785
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: I was like walking this way, and then walking this way,

786
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: and then walking all the way around this way, and

787
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: then I was going up the stairs and then down

788
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: the stairs, and like should I try to get in

789
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: the elevator and try that way? And why are there

790
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: green over here? But there's blue over here? I knew

791
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: I parked in green, but like I also knew where

792
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: my car was. I could see it, I couldn't get

793
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: to it. So I just pretended like I was like

794
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: on my breakout work getting my steps in, and.

795
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 3: I've had people were like look at her getting her steps.

796
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like why is that embarrassing?

797
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'm joking because they weren't paying attention too,

798
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: And I'm the same, like why why would I care

799
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 3: if I don't know where I'm going? And like I

800
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 3: want to act like I know where I'm going and

801
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: people aren't paying attention to us, like they don't care.

802
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: But it made me think of like what are the

803
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: things in life that are that feel embarrassing, that shouldn't

804
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: feel embarrassing like walking, like if you're at the you

805
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: park somewhere and you're like walking in somewhere and then

806
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: you forget somethings you have to walk back, like you

807
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 1: turn around.

808
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: I don't embarrass by that.

809
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's like, oh, like people are I

810
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: don't know. That feels similar to like me walking around

811
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: the parking garage, Like no, people like know that I

812
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: forgot something that shouldn't be embarrassing. Yeah, you know. Or

813
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: like speaking of the grocery store when you are trying

814
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: or any store when you pay with cash and then

815
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: you're trying to like put the money back in your wallet,

816
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: but then like start ringing up the next person and

817
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: you're like just shoving it in there, or do you

818
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: take your time?

819
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 3: I haven't paid with cash at the grocery store and like.

820
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: Or just like getting your stuff together, like my receipt

821
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 1: and like do you put it like in your wallet?

822
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 3: Okay, You're like trying to hurry and you're like yeah,

823
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 3: the next person's already.

824
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

825
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 3: Grocery store and embarrassing makes me think of when I

826
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: had a needing disorder. If I would buy certain foods,

827
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 3: I didn't want people to like i'd be buying. Maybe

828
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: I would just be even buying like one thing of

829
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: ice cream, but because I had shame around that, I

830
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: would get like a thing of celery too, and somehow

831
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 3: like that. I was like, I'm not just here to

832
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 3: buy ice cream. I'm here to buy celery too.

833
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: It's not like you weren't gonna.

834
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 3: I had a lot, but I didn't need the celery.

835
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: But I they probably wouldn't think anything of me buying

836
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: ice cream because that should be normal, but because I

837
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 3: had so much shame, I was embarrassed, so I added

838
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 3: the celery.

839
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: But then they're probably like, what is she doing with

840
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: the ice cream and the cellery?

841
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 3: Right?

842
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: And they're like, you know me, well, ronded. I just

843
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: came here to pick up a few things.

844
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I didn't come all the way here just

845
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 3: because of ice cream. Or if sometimes i'd be doing

846
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 3: like a fast food thing and I would be getting

847
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: a lot of food.

848
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: You're like pretending like there's more people they were for

849
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: somebody else to and my friend.

850
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 3: I didn't feel like i'd be like, so oh, and

851
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 3: I think wants I think he wants a diet come

852
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 3: or I think I think they said a twelve piece.

853
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well let me check really, or like you're reading

854
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: off of your phone, but really it's your own order.

855
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: So I'm laughing. But also this is just sad.

856
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: But it was my own shame and embarrassment, like I

857
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 3: thought they were judging me on what which Really they

858
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 3: are probably not paying attention, like they don't care. They

859
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 3: have people that come through and order like from one

860
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: little fry to like ten fries, like it doesn't matter,

861
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 3: they're just taking order. It's the stories we have in

862
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 3: our mind. Just like nobody was looking at you in

863
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 3: the parking lot, but you're like, I'm on the phone

864
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 3: getting my steps for the day, like I work here,

865
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: I know exactly where my car is.

866
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: That's when I found my car. I was like, oh

867
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: this thing. I haven't been looking for this for twenty minutes.

868
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: I even texted my mom. I was like, Mom, I'm

869
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: lost again in the same parking crunch. So our embarrassment

870
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 1: is in our head. Yes, well okay, So I looked

871
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: on Reddit to see like what other things people thought

872
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: we're embarrassing but really aren't. And I want to know

873
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: if you because you don't want to agree with the

874
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: couple of those. So I want to know if you

875
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: think these are embarrassing. Okay, So I looked on Reddit

876
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: to see like what other things people thought were embarrassing

877
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: but really aren't. And I want to know if because

878
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: you don't want to agree with the couple of those,

879
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: So I want to know if you think these are embarrassing. Okay, Okay,

880
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: So having to sneeze like when you're like you know

881
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: what's coming, but like you're in a conversation and you're like.

882
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, mine's more probably after the sneeze comes out, depending

883
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 3: on how I was able to control it, because sometimes

884
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 3: I can feel like I can sneeze cute, and then

885
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: other times I sneeze like, you know, an eighty year

886
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: old man.

887
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: It's embarrassing for me as a therapist in a session

888
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: if you're like talking about something serious and you're like,

889
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: do you know if you need a sneeze? You a

890
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: look at like yeah, okay, well I try to do that,

891
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: but then it's like awkward, and then I let the

892
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: sneeze go away, goes away, I'm like okay, I'm good,

893
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: and then it comes back. It's a whole thing.

894
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 3: It's a whole thing. Okay.

895
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, having sneeze calling in sick when you're sick.

896
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 3: No, No, you're like embarrassed.

897
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't know that's what they said. This one walking

898
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: to the bathroom with tampons.

899
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: Well, I guess I normally stick it where like stick

900
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 3: it like in a pocket. But because like I'm not

901
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: trying to But why because well, because I guess it's

902
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: not been normalized to just announce to my colleagues that

903
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 3: I'm on my way to stick a tampon.

904
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: Well. Ali Fallon talked about this on Instagram a while ago,

905
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: and I really liked it. She should be somebody that

906
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: we've phone in for this conversation, but she said, like

907
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: it should This is like shouldn't be embarrassing. This is

908
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: like a normal thing that's supposed to have. This is

909
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: supposed to happen to us.

910
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 3: And it's been happening to women since the beginning of time.

911
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 1: Yes, So like I'm going to the bathroom to take

912
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: care of some thing, to like actually practice good hygiene,

913
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: and this is something good that is happening. So why

914
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: would I be embarrassed that I have to use this thing?

915
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: You know?

916
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: So I didn't wanting to try that period underwear?

917
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: What period underwear instead of it just soaks up all

918
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: your blood. Yeah, but then you sit in it all day.

919
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, never tried it, Okay, I don't know

920
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 3: what it works. We probaly shouldn't talk about it. I

921
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 3: don't know. People were like, cool, I was eating breakfast.

922
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's fun, Okay.

923
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: Running through the airport, Oh yeah, totally embarrassing, so embarrassing.

924
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: I've had to do it.

925
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 3: And if you're like out of breath, just the worst,

926
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: like and then you get on the plane and you're

927
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 3: breathing and you're sweating, and then the plane is hot.

928
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, when somebody lets you cross the crosswalk like a

929
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 1: car and you like have to like pretend like you're

930
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: hurrying up, but really you're just like walking. Yeah, you

931
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

932
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 3: I guess it feels a little awkward, but I'm not

933
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 3: like totally embarrassed. But back to the plane thing, like

934
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: running an airport. If I am the last person aboard

935
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: the flight, I'm embarrassed. I hate it.

936
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: I get so much anxiety, like what if there's not

937
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: room for your bag or what if you have to

938
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: ask somebody to move and they don't really want to

939
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: move And people be crazy on the plane lately. Oh,

940
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: this one might not relate to this, but going on

941
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: a first date and trying to act surprised when they

942
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: tell things about themselves, but you've secretly already stalked them,

943
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, yeah, I had no idea that

944
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: you grew up in Oklahoma. That's so weird, and no

945
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: idea that your mom owns a card making business in Connecticut.

946
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 3: Then he's like, wait, I didn't tell you it was

947
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: in Connecticut.

948
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,959
Speaker 1: Oh did I say Connecticut? I'm sorry, I'm just lucky.

949
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: Guess I feel that. Okay, And then the last one,

950
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna agree, saying goodbye and then walking

951
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: in the same direction.

952
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's awkward.

953
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: That's awkward. Maybe not embarrassing.

954
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just more like, okay, do we say bye again?

955
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: You're going this way too.

956
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: Funny? He well, I love that cat. Thank you for

957
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 3: cheering with us. You're embarrassing moment.

958
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and thank you for bringing to light that it's

959
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: the stories in our head.

960
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 3: You're welcome. We have an email of the day. If

961
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 3: someone's listening today for the first time, they're like, what

962
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 3: they think? Thank you and pause and you're welcome in pause,

963
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 3: and I guess. Yeah, that's the first one we've done

964
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 3: it in this episode. I think earlier, I think that

965
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 3: was in Couch Talks. Yeah. Fun fact we film them

966
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 3: on the same day. Okay, Email of the Day, speaking

967
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 3: of emails, which that's what our Couch Talks episodes are,

968
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 3: and those go up on Thursdays, and then our Feeling

969
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 3: Things are every Tuesday. And I know you mentioned Ali Fallon,

970
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: so before I get to the Email of the Day,

971
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: I'll just mention that on Saturday is something that you'll

972
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 3: see on our Feeling Things feed every Saturday is podcasts

973
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,919
Speaker 3: from a network that I have that are some really

974
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 3: amazing women and I think you would like their content,

975
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 3: and it's loading up on our feet on Saturdays. So

976
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 3: if you're seeing that, that's what it is. It's women

977
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 3: from my network, and Allie Fallon is one of them.

978
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 3: She has a podcast called Write Your Story, Amanda Rieger

979
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 3: Green has Soul Sessions, and Leanne Ellington has What's God

980
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 3: Got to Do with It? So there's a three different

981
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 3: podcasts you'll see pop up on Saturday. They'll either be

982
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: in rotation or they're all going to load together. We're

983
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: playing around with some stuff just as a way to,

984
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 3: you know, spread spread the news, Spread the news, and

985
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 3: so maybe you can find something new to listen to

986
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 3: or someone new to follow on Instagram and see if

987
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: any of their stuff resonates with you. Email of the

988
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 3: day this, Oh do we not know who it's from? Oh?

989
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 3: We do?

990
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: And she said we could say her name?

991
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: Okay, Kat, We'll look that up while I read it.

992
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: Love the show, Kat and Amy is so glad you

993
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 3: are doing this together. It makes me laugh. I learn

994
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 3: a lot and love seeing two friends shine together. I

995
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 3: heard the episode you did where you mentioned Megan Markle

996
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 3: sending emails to her kids. I wanted to share an

997
00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 3: alternate idea. I hate buying B Day, Anniversary, ECCE or carts.

998
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 3: I hate trying to keep them so that I can

999
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 3: look back at them when I know I probably won't.

1000
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 3: I'd rather take that five to seven dollars and add

1001
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: it to the gift. So when my husband and I

1002
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 3: got married, I found two nine dollars journals at home Goods,

1003
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: one for each of us. Every Birthday, Christmas, Valentine's Day,

1004
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: and anniversary. We write our own card to each other

1005
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 3: in the journal. Romantically, I want someone to find these

1006
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 3: journals when we're long gone and turn them into a

1007
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 3: Hallmark movie. Well, the beginning of our marriage may be more.

1008
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: PG.

1009
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 3: Thirteen smiley face probably.

1010
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 1: Are That's what I was thinking.

1011
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 3: Just kidding. I've gone back to read the entries and

1012
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 3: it's beautiful to see our relationship evolve over the years.

1013
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 3: This has been so special to us that while we

1014
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 3: weren't able to have kids, I have gotten a journal

1015
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 3: for each of our three nephews and niece. Every birthday,

1016
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 3: I write a note to them. It won't be an

1017
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: overwhelming amount to read when they get older, but I

1018
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 3: hope to encapsulate their personalities and stories through it and

1019
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: maybe pass on some things I've learned. Just thought this

1020
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 3: might be helpful and less overwhelming idea than the emails.

1021
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 3: And Kat and I both love this idea so much,

1022
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 3: and I think it's so great for couples. I'm really

1023
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: really into it. And then you have it there and

1024
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 3: it's like.

1025
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 1: These, I'm going to buy two journals.

1026
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 3: I can't wait to work Patrick. Okay, did you get

1027
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 3: her name?

1028
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: Heidi? Heidi? Thanks Heidi. I love this idea because same,

1029
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: I have a hole. Mean, I have cards everywhere because

1030
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: feel bad throwing them out. But then I'm like, am

1031
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: I going to go back and go through? Maybe I

1032
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: don't know, but a journal seems much easier to keep

1033
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: up with. And it's speaking of finances financially savvy.

1034
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yeah, cards are so expensive now.

1035
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I usually buy like the nine nine cent

1036
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: ones And then I'm like, well, this is like even

1037
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: stupid because they're not even like cute.

1038
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not like the fun ones.

1039
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: Someone's like ten dollars.

1040
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 3: They can get pricey, especially the pop up ones does

1041
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: use it. But cry Okay is in here. She's working

1042
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 3: the cameras right now, and she loves a good card

1043
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: and she will spend a lot of money on a card.

1044
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: But that's something so that's her. That's something she knows

1045
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 3: about herself. Like she loves to circle back to the

1046
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: beginning of the episode and put a bow on this thing,

1047
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 3: like that's something she knows. She loves to do, Like Kat,

1048
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 3: I'm just speaking for you, But she loves to pick

1049
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 3: out the card. She loves when it's a cool card,

1050
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 3: and then she loves giving you the card.

1051
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: Do you She loves even just if she sees a

1052
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: card that reminds yeah, she'll buy it.

1053
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: It's not even for an occasion, so that's like sweet though,

1054
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 3: that's like part of her thing and she's awesome. It

1055
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 3: has to be a perfect card, but that's important to her.

1056
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 3: Like for her, it's like she may be like, eh,

1057
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna write in some silly journal on getting

1058
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 3: you a card, and that's what she wants to do,

1059
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 3: and she could do.

1060
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: Some people love collecting those, so.

1061
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 3: I say some of them and then I'm like, how

1062
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 3: do I decide which ones I'm saving them? Which ones

1063
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 3: I don't and I don't. I think it's just like

1064
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 3: whatever mood I'm in that day. But speaking of okay,

1065
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 3: she will, I'm pretty sure she's gonna always pay to

1066
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 3: get her nails done, and that's okay. She gets to

1067
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 3: do that, and then I probably will.

1068
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 1: She pays to get her nails done. You have bare

1069
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: naked nails and you won't even let me do them,

1070
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: and then I do my own nails. Everybody is different

1071
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: and that's okay.

1072
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are an example of the world.

1073
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 1: We are not the most diverse.

1074
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 3: We are so diverse. Just kidding, Yeah that we're we're

1075
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 3: aware of that. That was a joke.

1076
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 1: See, got to make a little jokesy.

1077
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 3: You're funny. Yeah, thanks for listening. Kat and I both

1078
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 3: hope that you have the day you need to have

1079
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Speaker 3: and we want to hear from you. Email us hey

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00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 3: there at Feeling Things podcast dot com. If you want

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Speaker 3: to email us for couch talks, put that in the

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Speaker 3: subject line. If you want to be anonymous, make sure

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Speaker 3: you include that information. Shout out Heidi. Sorry we left

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Speaker 3: your name off at the beginning. And then also you

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Speaker 3: can call us leave us a boy smell eight seven

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Speaker 3: seven two oh seven two oh seven seven, and I

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Speaker 3: guess we'll see you on Thursday for couch Talks. Follow

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Speaker 3: us on YouTube, oh yeah, Feeling Things podcasts. Follow us

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Speaker 3: on Instagram Feeling Things.

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Speaker 1: Podcasts, We made it easy.

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Speaker 3: Follow us on TikTok Feeling things podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Follow us on TikTok please, what why? I feel

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Speaker 1: like that's we need to grow people there. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: not follow us.

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Speaker 3: You're just younger so you feel like TikTok school.

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Speaker 1: Watch our tiktoks. Please watch them. Yes, we need them

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Speaker 1: to circulate. I find so much stuff through just clips

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Speaker 1: on TikTok.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have have had some that have popped off.

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Speaker 3: We have some clothes.

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Speaker 1: Trying on TikTok, And then there was one video.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even upload it correctly because I'm just not

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Speaker 3: on TikTok as much, and I thought it was a

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Speaker 3: video and it is a picture. That's why Cat is like,

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Speaker 3: can you'll please go to our TikTok and help it?

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Speaker 1: Because you posted a picture with music, I screenshot it

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Speaker 1: and send it to where And I was like, am

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Speaker 1: I missing? Is this a trend? I don't get what

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Speaker 1: you're doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what happened quite honestly.

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Speaker 1: You like sit on your phone or something.

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Speaker 3: No. No, I posted that, but I thought it was

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Speaker 3: the video, but I did not add the song. I

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Speaker 3: did not. I thought it was just us talking. I

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Speaker 3: know it was a screenshot which I remember clicked on

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Speaker 3: the rock listen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah cool, we do our on social media here.

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Speaker 3: If you can't tell. But that's what's made it so

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Speaker 3: much more fun. Like I love having Kat as a partner,

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Speaker 3: and we've had a good time and it's fun and yeah,

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to like get out and about if

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Speaker 3: we do some lives and like meeting our listeners and

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Speaker 3: we want to see y'all, so more of that to

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Speaker 3: come soon and some other exciting news. Yeah, so we

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Speaker 3: leave you with that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, bye bye