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So I want to 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: ask this to start off this hour because we do 20 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: have a new twist on a story we discussed earlier. 21 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: Do we still have the Mike Brown, the Bengals team president, 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: talking about the negotiations with Trey Hendrickson. Do we still 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: have that from yesterday? So the Bengals have this annual luncheon. 24 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: It's the only time Mike Brown is available to the 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: media all year, so this is it. And there are 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: concerns about Shamar Stewart, their first round pick who's not signed, 27 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: and also Trey Hendrickson who's looking for a new deal 28 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: and has not gotten it yet. And this was the 29 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: Bengals president yesterday talking about negotiating with Trey Hendrickson. 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 4: We aren't going to trade Trey. We're working to get 31 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 4: Trey signed. As we speak here. There are guys over 32 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 4: in the office working to get that. I think it'll 33 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 4: get done. It is the way Trey can be. He 34 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 4: We like Trey as a person. He's a good guy, 35 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 4: but when it comes to these negotiations, and we've been 36 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 4: through a few of them with him, he pushes hard, 37 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 4: he gets emotional. We never have an easy time of it. 38 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 4: But there's one thing that is consistent. It always gets done, 39 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 4: and I think this one will. But we'll see. I've 40 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 4: been proven wrong before, but I have pretty confident that 41 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 4: we'll get there at the end. 42 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: According to Adam Schefter, again, Mike Brown, Bengals President talking 43 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: about the Trey Hendrickson possible deal getting done. According to 44 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter of ESPN, Trey Hendrickson will not be reporting 45 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: to training camp today with the rest of the Bengals. 46 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: He told ESPN. Hendrickson has said he would not play 47 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: under his current contract and he is dug in and 48 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: sticking to his word. And Hendrickson followed that up by 49 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: posting on social media a picture on Instagram of him 50 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: driving down a road in Florida. So, last I checked, Uh, 51 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: that's not where the Bengals training camp is anywhere near Florida. 52 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: So it appears that Trey Anderson is yeah, no, listen, 53 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm not playing under this deal. 54 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 3: And and here we go. 55 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 5: So those guys Mike Brown was referring to are playing 56 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 5: tittley winks. They're in the back room or maybe you 57 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 5: got a hand of poker going on, Like, yeah, we're 58 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 5: working on that contract. Yeah, sure we are. Yeah. 59 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: Do you think here's here's something else. I think Pete 60 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: is also going to do. Pete Prisco. When we catch 61 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: up with him, he's like, and he does he said 62 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: this before, He's going to say, listen, all these guys 63 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: say that they're not going to play. They're not going 64 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: to play, They're not going to play, and all of 65 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: a sudden the season rolls around and they show up 66 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: and play. I don't think Trey Hendrickson is I actually 67 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: believe this one. He really is dug in and. 68 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 5: He should be. And the fact that given his production 69 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 5: at his age like this is like this is your 70 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 5: best shot at most organizations would have probably signed him 71 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 5: are extendedive by now. Unfortunately it's not that it's the Bengals. 72 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 5: And to further that point, there's a reason why Carson 73 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 5: Palmer got frustrated with the Bengals. Yeah, and he ended 74 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 5: up moving on. And I'm not trying to foreshadow that 75 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 5: for Joe Burrow, but I've said this and again, you know, 76 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 5: the people have tried to kind of defend the Bengals organization. 77 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 5: There's a reason why a guy like Carson Palmer, who 78 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 5: by all accounts awesome guy, great quarterback, everything else that 79 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 5: you'd want, would want to leave an organization because he 80 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 5: saw the running on the wall. And you do have 81 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 5: to wonder that if they're once again playing Kansas City, Buffalo, Baltimore, 82 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 5: whoever you want to talk about, and they drive down 83 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 5: to get a score to go ahead, and they have 84 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 5: to consistently watch their defense give up a drive to 85 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 5: any one of those teams and they get beat, whether 86 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 5: it's for the division and the playoffs, and they get 87 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 5: knocked out. He's gonna keep thinking to himself, like, this 88 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 5: is not an organization that's willing to build a roster 89 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 5: around me and figure out a way of doing so. 90 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: I mean, listen that the dollar store of the NFL 91 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,559 Speaker 1: just is what it is. Bengal fans can get upset 92 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: about it and get pissy about it if they want. 93 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: Facts are facts, and they do have a history of this. 94 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer basically retired. I don't want to be here, 95 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: like we're not holding you're not holding up your end 96 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: of the bargain. 97 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: I don't want to be here. 98 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: And he walked, and I just you think about and 99 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: I brought this point up last week, Just think about 100 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: where they would be if they didn't have Joe Burrow. 101 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: Like they've got one of the better quarterbacks in the NFL, 102 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: a guy who's got all the credentials potentially and you know, 103 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: six seven, eight years from now to be a Hall 104 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: of Famer, and they're nickel and diming on the defensive 105 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: front and say whatever you want about Kansas City, and 106 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: they've got Patrick Mahomes, and they've got they just recently 107 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: they just signed Karlofta to an extension. They've got they 108 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: draft well, and their defense has really been arguably the 109 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: most consistent part of their team the past couple of years. 110 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 3: Like if you if. 111 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 5: They've signed Spagnola too extensions, They've paid him handsomely to 112 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 5: keep him from becoming a head coach elsewhere. 113 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just look at it and go if I'm 114 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: a Bengals fan, this frustrates the hell out of me. 115 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: But it's par for the course, is how they operate. 116 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: So Trey Hendrickson, that is the update posting on social 117 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: media driving down a road in Florida just nowhere to 118 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: be seen when it comes to the Bengals training camp. 119 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 5: Hey Lee, do you have to know what road that 120 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 5: is in the picture? Could you maybe effort that? I 121 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 5: don't know if you want to use groc or some 122 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 5: other ai or if you just want to take a 123 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 5: guest on the top of your head. Oh, do you 124 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 5: think he's bluffing? Do you think he's actually in Ohio? 125 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 5: And no, no, I'm just no, no, I'm not saying 126 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 5: that that'd be your conspiracy theory on this. I just 127 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 5: want Lee to give us his best guess of what 128 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 5: road that would be in Florida, given that we're putting 129 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 5: him on the spot, we know how hard this is, 130 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 5: but also how early this in the morning, and see 131 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 5: if Lee's brain's actually working? 132 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: Lee, what are we looking at here? I mean, it 133 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: is a getaway day for Lee. It's not going to 134 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: be here the rest of the week. 135 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 6: So well, groc has answered saying you haven't provided an 136 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 6: image with any specific details about the road or landmarks, signage, 137 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 6: or location. So even Grok is having an issue with this. 138 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 6: I'm not too familiar with. 139 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 5: Give me a guest, Lee, like, which road do you 140 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 5: think it is? You know? I mean you were yesterday 141 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 5: if I'll just give you a moment to research this. 142 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 5: You were researching hotels conference rooms down in the South 143 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 5: Florida Miami area, as well as Tutsi's, one of the 144 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 5: local strip clubs. 145 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, did anybody call you back on that lead? Didn't 146 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: you leave requests to some of those places about getting 147 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: Lloyd hal a conference room as opposed to some strip club. 148 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I will have to double check, because I did 149 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 6: give them my other email and that I don't usually 150 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 6: have open. You know, I'm going to guess this is 151 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 6: the Beachline Expressway, is what I'm going to say. Opposed 152 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 6: to Alligator Alley. I mean, i'd say it's one of 153 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 6: the two of those. 154 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 5: It's it's not Alligator Alley. He wouldn't be driving across 155 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 5: the street. Not Alligator Alley. Okay, your first guest was 156 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 5: probably closer. 157 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 6: A double check on these conference rooms as we as 158 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 6: we talk about. 159 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: Oh, good luck, Tray, your owner dismissed you that. Listen, 160 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 1: he's always get Don Rickles. 161 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen. 162 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: Don Rickles dismissed you earlier and said, ah, and he 163 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: gets really emotional, but we usually always get it done, 164 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: like it's okay, all right, Well he's in he's in Florida. 165 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: Alligator Alley. What the hell is alligator Alley. 166 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 5: It's the I don't know, if you're want to call 167 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 5: just a highway from the east side to the west 168 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 5: side or vice versa. You can see a bunch of 169 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 5: alligators on the side of it. 170 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 3: Sounds like a country pop singer Alligator Alley. Heck yeah, yeah. 171 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 6: I did get a response from the Palms Hotel and SPA, 172 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 6: not with any prices, though they can have a lot 173 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 6: of follow up questions that's on me. 174 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: Like what how horny is the NFLPA executive director, Like, 175 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: We're not gonna haggle on prices here. 176 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 6: They do ask about food and beverage and hostesses and 177 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 6: what you need, what kind of break how many guests, 178 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 6: how many rooms you need? 179 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 5: Well, I guess not only for the NFLPA, but for 180 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 5: the Carlisle Group they will no longer be needing that either. 181 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: Yes, Lloyd how lost that gig too? 182 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: So I'm not trying to the whole thing is bananas. 183 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: I'm Lloyd, how was you know? 184 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: He was working with the Carlisle Group and now he 185 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: stepped down from that. So the NFLPA is gone, the 186 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: Carlisle Group has gone. I don't know if there's a 187 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: management role at Tootsi's that's available. Maybe he can go 188 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: on Express Pros and check that out. Maybe that's a possibility. 189 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: But this whole thing has really really gone sideways for 190 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: him in a hurry. And again, nobody would have known 191 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: anything about it had the transcripts from the testimony in 192 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: court not gotten out on them from the grievance like 193 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: nobody would have known anything about this. It would have 194 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: never seen the light of day. JC Tretter would have 195 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: stayed put, Lloyd how would have stayed put. Nothing would 196 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: have changed except those trans gripts became public because Pablo 197 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: Torri got ahold of them, and now Lloyd How's lost 198 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: everything because of that. It's just bananas. And so if 199 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: these are the two instances we know about, and you 200 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: knew he had prior issues in the past, I just 201 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: they say they vetted him, they say they looked into it, 202 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: they say they did their due diligence, that they felt 203 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: comfortable about the hiring. 204 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: All of that, I don't know how you. 205 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: Got to that point, as if you're the NFLPA just 206 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense to me. 207 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 5: I'm almost wondering why the Carla group took so long. 208 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 5: I guess he resigned, but I'm sure there was internal 209 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 5: pressure very similar to the NFLPA. Even though people said 210 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 5: the PA was caught off guard or shocked by it, 211 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 5: I don't know how that would be the case based 212 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 5: on all the information that's come out. It feels like 213 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 5: that's just kind of what you say to nice when 214 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 5: someone's made a mistake. But it's surprising the Carlisle Group 215 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 5: he would still be employed there and held on through 216 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 5: all this too, for as long as he did. 217 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: Man, Tutsis must be a place. That must be a 218 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: damn good time. I mean, if you're willing to risk 219 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: it all like that fresh off a flight, just based 220 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: on the pictures, I get it. I'll be honest with you. 221 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: I'd rather go there than sit in some of these 222 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: meetings for the NFLPA knowing you're going to lose in 223 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: your negotiations with the owners. Man, I'll be at Tutsis. 224 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: I'll see you guys over there. 225 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 5: This does call into question that the chicken or the 226 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 5: egg theory here. Is this more of like his style 227 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 5: with the NFLPA, or maybe it's one of the style 228 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 5: of the Carlisle Group. Maybe maybe actually that's where the 229 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 5: habit was built and it just blood over into the NFLPA. 230 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 5: Maybe maybe that private equity space. Maybe maybe they've revolutionized 231 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 5: the meeting space where they're utilizing stript clubs and you know. 232 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: Maybe there's people the Carlisle Group going, wait, we can't 233 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: do that. 234 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're not allowed to do that. 235 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: Where is the Carlisle Group based out of by the way. 236 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 5: I'm not sure I would say for Lee to be 237 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 5: on that, but Lee looks like he's deep into Lee. 238 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 5: What are you doing? Are you answering the questionnaire from 239 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 5: the Hotel pennsylvani. 240 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 6: That as well as trying to figure out this road? 241 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 5: Lee? You could just pass on the whole questionnaire thing 242 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 5: like it's it's over. Man. 243 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 6: Oh I'm not doing. 244 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 5: That, okay, all right, So let me just look up. 245 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm looking up strip clubs near the Carlisle Group just 246 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: to see this. Does savannahs on Hannah castaways, sensations, bar 247 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: and grills? Like he could basically just you know, put 248 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: a blindfold on and start swinging at the strip club 249 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: Pinata and just a bunch would fall out. I mean, 250 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: so look, hey, Woyd Howe. Hopefully everything gets sorted out 251 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: and and he bounces back. But if you're looking for him, 252 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: probably a couple of good guesses where you can find him, 253 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: just not in an NFLPA meeting or with the Carlisle 254 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: Group any longer. So it is two pros and a 255 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, Brady Quinn, 256 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox with you here coming up next. Though Brady 257 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: Quinn has called his shot. Pete Prisco is going to 258 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: defend somebody in the NFL that nobody else is defending. 259 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: Find out if he's one hundred percent accurate on that, 260 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: and it's yours next here on FSR. 261 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 7: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 262 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 7: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 263 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 7: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific 264 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 7: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 265 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, 266 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: Brady Quinn, Jonas Knocks with you here coming up, and 267 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: we'll call it a little over twenty minutes from now, 268 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: we'll close up shop with another edition of Lee's Leftovers. 269 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: We have been promised one of the better performances in 270 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: Lee's Leftovers that you've heard in the history of the segment. 271 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: We've been promised that, so that'll be yours here again 272 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: a little over twenty minutes from now. Right now, though, 273 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: we welcome in the smooth operator himself, the one and 274 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: only Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnist or CBS Sports, CBS 275 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: Sports HQ analyst. If you want that smoke, you can 276 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: get it on x at Prisco CBS. 277 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: Good morning, Pete. How are you feeling good? 278 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 8: Guys? 279 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 5: How are you We're in today vacation? 280 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, okay? Good for him? 281 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, probably somewhere down in Florida he might be Maybe 282 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 5: he's passing by a Trey Hendrickson at some point. 283 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, so yeah, well you know what, Trey Henderson will 284 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 8: be in Campston enough. 285 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 5: Oh why is that, Pete? I mean, is it because 286 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 5: the Bengals. I mean, let's do this, Pete. Let's set 287 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 5: you up. We actually have some sound from Duke Tobin 288 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 5: in regards to this this situation which with Shamar Stewart. 289 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 5: We talked about that one first, go ahead, Okay, the negotiations. 290 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 8: Yeah. 291 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 9: I won't get into all the details of it. You know, 292 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 9: I don't blame Schamar. He's listening to the advice that 293 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 9: he's paying for. I don't understand the advice. I don't 294 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 9: agree with it. I'm not the one paying for it. 295 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 9: But that's where it is. 296 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 5: If I thought we were. 297 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 9: Treating him unfairly, it would be a different story. But 298 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 9: we're treating him fairly with all the rest of the 299 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 9: draft picks and miss year's draft. 300 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 5: So who's in the right, who's in the wrong. Here, 301 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 5: is it Shamar Stewart is agent? Or is it Duke 302 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 5: Tobinis and Stati. 303 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 8: Bengals Shamar Stewart is agent? I mean, well, first off, 304 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 8: let's start about Shamar Stewart. He's raw as can be. 305 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, he needs all the. 306 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 8: Work in the world to learn how to play football 307 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 8: the right way. Okay, he's got a ton of talent. 308 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 8: He didn't do workouts during his leading up into the 309 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 8: into the draft process, individual workouts because a lot of 310 00:15:58,360 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 8: teams asked him to and he didn't. 311 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 5: The Bengals still drafted them the first round, surprising. 312 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 8: Well, okay, well the Bengals. Now that's that. Look. Would 313 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 8: I have drafted them in the first round? Noh, Bengals did. 314 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 5: But the Bengals did. 315 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 8: But he needs to be learning how to play football, 316 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 8: and he's getting by, he's getting banned by from his agents. 317 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 8: I'm sorry, Bengal. 318 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 5: You don't have any take from the Bengal side of 319 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 5: this thing, because because notoriously they're cheap, right, we always 320 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 5: talk about that, but there's no other. 321 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 8: That would look down to the old Bengals. The Bengals 322 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 8: had a reputation being cheap, thrifty and every every fast 323 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 8: There's still not it. No. I mean they just went 324 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 8: out and doled out tons of money to their wide receivers, 325 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 8: did they not? 326 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 5: Did they? 327 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 7: Though? 328 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 5: I mean Jamar Chase got the big deal, Higgins, if 329 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 5: you really break it down, isn't quite as good of 330 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 5: a deal. 331 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 8: This sounds like it's coming from a Brown Guys. 332 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 5: This sounds sounds like this sounds like you're doing. Here's 333 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 5: the thing, Pete. Let me let you in a secret. 334 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 5: I predicted that before the segment you would do exactly 335 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 5: what you're doing right now because you always defend the 336 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 5: Bengals in Duke Tobin and we talked about a little 337 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 5: bit about the history of you saying Joe Burrow would 338 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 5: win multiple Super Bowls during in the next ten years 339 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 5: when he got drafted. 340 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 8: Said one. I said one. And by the way, if 341 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 8: you would think about that for a second, if I 342 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 8: really believe that that wasn't making an impact, I think 343 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 8: Stewart should be in there and Henderson should be in there. 344 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 5: So okay, so let's let's let's get back to this 345 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 5: Shamar Stewart. Let's get back on track. What they're doing, 346 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 5: within the language of the contract would be setting a precedent, 347 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 5: which they have not done previously with any of the 348 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 5: first round picks. There's other players who are under contract, 349 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 5: we've redone their deals who don't have this language, but 350 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 5: they're doing with Shamar Stewart. Yet you still want to 351 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 5: defend the Bengals for choosing Schamar Stewart to do this with. 352 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 8: Look, I think a player needs to get in and 353 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 8: play no matter what. That's my take on it. If 354 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 8: he wastes this whole year or waste half the year, 355 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 8: he's never going to get the money he deserves to get. 356 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 5: So hold on. So if CBS came to you and 357 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 5: they said, hey, Pete, we're going to change the language 358 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 5: your contract. I know, by the way, if you do X, 359 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 5: Y and Z, you might not be owed anything. And 360 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 5: by the way, this has never been done in the past. 361 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 5: No one else has to abide by it within the organization, 362 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 5: but just you, you would sign up for that. 363 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 8: No, but we don't know the specifics, and you don't 364 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 8: know the specifics of the whole deal. 365 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 5: It's actually been it's actually been outlined. It's in regards 366 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 5: to the guarantees past. What's what's usually put in there 367 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 5: that how far as we go ahead. 368 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, who's saying that? 369 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 5: By the way, I mean, I don't know Floria's written 370 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 5: on this for at length. He's got other people who 371 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 5: have reported that he's credited to. 372 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 8: Floria is always going to take the Flora is always 373 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 8: going to take the side of the radical side of 374 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 8: the player. 375 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 5: You know that. 376 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: Why is that, Pete? What's your problem, Pete? 377 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 8: But I'm just saying he's only going to take take 378 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 8: that side by the way he is. I know, I've 379 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 8: known Mike for years. We're always going to stir up 380 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 8: the establishment. That's what he does. 381 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: Well, we yeah, we do have. 382 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: Maybe this is a little peak behind the scenes here 383 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: for Pete Prisco. This was the draft grade that Pete 384 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: gave the Bengals for Shamar Stewart on Draft Night on CBS. 385 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: From Pete Prisco. The Bengals needed edge help, but Stewart 386 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: is raw and lacks football instincts. There wasn't a lot 387 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: of production to his game. The tape shows a player 388 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: who needs to learn how to play football, but the 389 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: talent is there, so because of that, he. 390 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 5: Needs to show up so real quick though, let's just 391 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 5: go over this the off season. What would we would 392 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 5: you say is their number one thing they need to 393 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 5: do this offseason. 394 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 8: Number one thing who needs to do. 395 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 5: The Bengals, what do they need to do? 396 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 8: Pay the players? 397 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, but what area do they need to improve upon? 398 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 8: Defense? 399 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 5: Okay? So they have Trey Hendrickson, who still an extension. 400 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 8: They tried to week one. Trey Hendrickson shows up and 401 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 8: play the week when, no matter what happens. 402 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 5: So you think they're going to sign into the deal. 403 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 8: Well, I think I think whether he signs the deal 404 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 8: or not, he's going to show up and play. 405 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: Oh you think he's gonna come crawling back? 406 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 8: They all do? 407 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 5: They all do what dogs? 408 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 8: Like? 409 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 5: What are you talking about? 410 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 8: All the players play? Who doesn't play anymore? You're foolish. 411 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 8: If you don't play, you're living money on the table. 412 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: I mean he does. 413 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: It does feel like he's pretty dug in. And the 414 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: way Mike Brown kind of broke down Trey Hendrickson, it's 415 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: always like yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, it gets really emotional, 416 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: but we usually always get it done. And I mean 417 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson's maybe he's on his way to go see you. 418 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: He posted on Instagram. He's driving in Florida somewhere, you know, 419 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: he's got nowhere near the Bengals training camp. So you're 420 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: predicting right now, deal or not Trey Hendrickson is in 421 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: the lineup week I'm not saying he's. 422 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 8: Gonna be there in training camp. I'm saying in week 423 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 8: one he will be lining up at defensive ends of 424 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 8: the Cincinnati Bengals. 425 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 5: What about it, I don't know what about say it's 426 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 5: a coin coin flip right now, as just said, trade 427 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 5: seems kind of likely, does not. 428 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 8: They's played that. He was on the market before nobody, 429 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 8: nobody made a deal for him. What do you mean 430 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 8: they peddled. 431 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: Him around before? 432 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 5: How do you know though, that Cincinnati didn't get enough 433 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 5: back and return on the trade. 434 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,719 Speaker 8: Clearly, if they had gotten something in return that they 435 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 8: wanted to make the deal, they would have made the deal. Brady, 436 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 8: they didn't want it. Look, look here's the deal. He's 437 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 8: under contract, he's not happy with his contract. He has 438 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 8: two choices or three choices. Actually, they get a new 439 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 8: deal done, which is probably gonna happen. By the way, 440 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 8: it sounds like the Bengals move in that direction. If 441 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 8: it doesn't, he can either play or sit and leave 442 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 8: money on the table. And when you leave money on 443 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 8: the table that goes flying out the window and you 444 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 8: never see it again. He's not going to leave it 445 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 8: on the table. 446 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 5: Pete. How confident do you feel about Joe Burrow winning 447 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 5: that Super Bowl and the first ten years of his career. 448 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 8: Well, he's darn close, so he still can do it. Look, 449 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 8: it's still possible. 450 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 5: Do you do you remember when you wanted to concede 451 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 5: and you wanted to say that when they got to 452 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl that was enough, like that that you 453 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 5: were right. Do you remember that night where you were 454 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 5: willing No. 455 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 8: I remember willing said, I said he would one in ten. 456 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 8: I'm not going to back away from that. 457 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 5: You said you said multiple too. 458 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 8: No, I said that could win multiple. But he was 459 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 8: he will win, he will win one. The problem is 460 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 8: he's playing in an era, in that AFC where you 461 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 8: got Mahomes and he got Allen and he got It's tough. 462 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 5: It's tough, but look, the four. 463 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 8: Best quarterbacks in football are all in the AFC. 464 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 5: I mean, you could probably even go deeper than that. 465 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 5: But but if we look at history, look at Carson Palmer, 466 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 5: who also played for the Bengals. That during a time 467 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 5: where there's a lot of good quarterbacks in the NFC 468 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 5: as well. Do you not does that not scare you 469 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 5: a little bit? If Burrow starts looking around, if they 470 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 5: can't figure out some of these deals on defense and 471 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 5: roster construction around Burrow, do you not worry that maybe 472 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 5: he'll look at elsewhere and say, ah, maybe I need 473 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 5: to go somewhere else. 474 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 8: No. No, he's under contract and he's gonna play there. 475 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 8: But by the way, their defense will be better this year. 476 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 8: Just making the change a defensive coordinator. Wow, I think 477 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 8: that now Al Golden in there will will make that 478 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 8: defense better. I think they're gonna play more man and man. 479 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 8: They had a bunch of man a man corners, a lot. 480 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 5: Of men, a lot of what that a lot of 481 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 5: pressure too? 482 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, I like, I like to change the defensive coordinator. 483 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 8: They'll be better on defense, they'll be better as a 484 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 8: football team, and they're going to push the Ravens for 485 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 8: the division title. 486 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 3: So Pete Prisco with us here on Fox Sports Radio. 487 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: From one defender looking to get paid to another one 488 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: looking to get paid, Michael Parsons, what is your best 489 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: guess as to why Jerry Jones always finds himself in 490 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: this spot talking about not paying a guy yet, not 491 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: paying a guy yet kind of dismissing it as well too. 492 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: At training camp yesterday in Oxnard. What's your best guess 493 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: as to why this is the approach the Cowboys take 494 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to paying their players and waiting until 495 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: after everybody else gets their deal done. 496 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 8: I think part of it is Jerry loves it. He 497 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 8: loves he loves the spotlight of it. I mean, why 498 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 8: would you have done that deal a year ago? That 499 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 8: makes no sense to me. And look as far as 500 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 8: getting up there and putting the players in the cross 501 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 8: airs when you're talking about them, that's called negotiations. I 502 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 8: mean that happens. Players talk about the team, and team 503 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 8: talks about the players. Then the deal gets done and 504 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 8: everybody comes in and shakes hands and they're all happy. 505 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 8: I mean, that's history. It's been that way for fifty years. 506 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 8: It's not going to change. But as far as Jerry waiting, 507 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 8: I think I don't understand why he waits. He could 508 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 8: have got a cheaper deal last year with Parsons, and 509 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 8: he waits, and now the price has gone up and 510 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 8: now he's going to pay more. But what does it mean. 511 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 8: It means people are talking about the Cowboys, it means 512 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 8: people are talking about Jerry Jones. It means people are 513 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 8: talking about Michael Parsons. I think he loves it. And 514 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 8: so it's the same thing with the Deck Prescott contract, 515 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 8: and he did the same thing, and he waited and 516 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 8: he finally did it and boom there he went. Oh, 517 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 8: look how happy they are. It's going to be no 518 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 8: different in Michael Parsons. That deal will get done. He'll 519 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 8: be happy. Parsons will be happy, and on they go. 520 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 5: Pete, as we're looking at just heading into training camp 521 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 5: for a lot of these teams, is there an under 522 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 5: the radar team that you've got your eye on this 523 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 5: year that you're kind of saying, all right, no one's 524 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 5: talked about him enough, but they're going to be, you know, 525 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 5: a playoff team or a contender. 526 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 8: This Tampa count. 527 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's fine. I'll give you Tampa. And I don't 528 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 5: feel like people are talking about the Bucks. 529 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 8: Because I think I think Tampa Bay is clearly the 530 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 8: best team in that division. I think they're going to 531 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 8: push for a deep playoff run and maybe more. I 532 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 8: love what they've done. They got a great mix of 533 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 8: young and old. I mean they can they can rush 534 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 8: the passer. I think getting Reddick it will help them. 535 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 8: I think, you know, they have some other young play 536 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 8: Elijah Kanty is ready to take the next step on 537 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 8: that defensive line. They love what they've done with their 538 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 8: young players. I mean, your guy, your Notre Dame guy, 539 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 8: Benjamin Marson. If he can stay on the field, I 540 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 8: think he's going to push for a starting job. They 541 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 8: love them and so I think there's a great mix there. 542 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 8: And they have Baker who's playing at you know, a 543 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 8: really high level to go with a running game. Now, 544 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 8: the one question is offensive coordinator new offensive coordinator. But 545 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 8: everything everybody I've talked over there, they love the guy. 546 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 8: So I think, you know, no, he hasn't called plays, 547 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 8: but he's supposedly a very smart, bright guy. Uh, he'll 548 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 8: figure it out. I think that. I think Tampa is 549 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 8: going to push for a lot more than people think 550 00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 8: they are. 551 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: P Prisk joining us here on Fox Sports Rady. You 552 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: can get him on ex at Prisco CBS. Pete didn't 553 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: want to open up the interview with this. I wanted 554 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: to give you time to kind of catch your breath 555 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: and all that, because we know this is a difficult 556 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: time for you. 557 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 3: Will Levis. 558 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: Obviously elected to have season ending shoulder surgery. You were 559 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: the leader on the Will Levis train a year ago, 560 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: telling everybody he was the goods. 561 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 3: Where does this. 562 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: Leave him moving forward in his career now that the 563 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: decision has been made, he's going to miss this entire 564 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: season and the keys to the car have been handed 565 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: over to cam Ward. 566 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 8: Well, there's a couple of things there. Yeah, I was 567 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 8: on the Will Lews chain. I still think he could play. 568 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 8: I think Will Levis needs to go to a team, 569 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 8: a different team and learn how to play quarterback, like 570 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 8: for Sean McVay or something like that, like Baker Mayfield did, 571 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 8: and or go somewhere and redubing his career like Sam 572 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 8: Darnold did. It wasn't going to happen to Tennessee. Last 573 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 8: year was a disaster. It was terrible. He was bad, 574 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 8: The team was horrendous, The offensive line was awful. He 575 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 8: took a beating, He made some really bad decisions. He 576 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 8: panics in key moments. He needs to reset. So, if 577 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 8: your shoulder was a problem and you could play through it, 578 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 8: but you're not going to get a real shake to 579 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 8: win the job, why not get it cleaned up. Why not? 580 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 8: And you know, look in this world, what's good for 581 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 8: me is good for me. What's good for him is 582 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 8: to clean up the shoulder, sit out the entire season, 583 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 8: and then figure it out. He clearly looked at the 584 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 8: landscape and no matter what he did, even if he 585 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 8: had a better training camp and a better off season, 586 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 8: he wasn't going to start but clean it up, move on, 587 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 8: fit out the season, and then if they don't want 588 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 8: your round, you go somewhere else and try and rejuvenate 589 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 8: your career. That's what he has to do because it 590 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 8: wasn't going to work in Tennessee. So I'm all for it. 591 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 8: You know what in this and you guys know this, 592 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 8: teams will do anything to you so you could do 593 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 8: something for yourself. He did it, and I spect them 594 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 8: for it. 595 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 5: That's uh, that's Pete Presco. 596 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 8: I know. 597 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 5: Hey, Pete, I do want to ask your opinion about 598 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 5: what how old this whole NFL PA debacle. I mean, 599 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 5: I just give it, just take the take the stage, 600 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 5: go ahead. 601 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 8: Well, I mean your magic city, your expense report. I 602 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 8: mean that guy was leading the union they. 603 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 5: Get magic toutsies. Isn't far from you? Pete? 604 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, LEAs Tootsie's as good as everybody makes it out 605 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 3: to be. 606 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 8: Was it was? It was? It was it Tootsies? Is 607 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 8: that were it was Tootsies? 608 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 5: That's right, Yeah, I mean it was actually both, it 609 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 5: was both. 610 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 8: Here's the thing about it. He's leading the union and 611 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 8: you're putting that your expense report. I mean, no wonder, 612 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 8: I mean the league. It's just runs over the union. 613 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 8: It's been a disaster for a long time. You know, 614 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 8: we sit here and we say everybody should go, oh, 615 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 8: they're not going to have eighteen games. Yes they will 616 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 8: because the union will allow it to happen. Of course, 617 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 8: they're going to be team games. Look, my relationship with 618 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 8: the NFLPA has never been really strong to begin with. 619 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 8: You know, I was always one of those guys that 620 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 8: pushed back on them, and they never liked it. They 621 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 8: never liked me. So I you know, I can sit 622 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 8: here and say that I'm getting a real chuckle out 623 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 8: of it because it's just such a disaster. And you know, Brady, 624 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 8: they talk a big game. They did they really ever 625 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 8: do anything right by the player? Seriously, they always caves. 626 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 8: They don't really, they don't do the things that they're 627 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 8: supposed to do. And it's kind of been the NFL 628 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 8: knows that and they kind of run them over, and 629 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 8: now to have this happen, it's a disaster. 630 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 5: So Pete, I want to try to say Lloyd Howll's 631 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 5: defense in this case, We were actually trying to shop 632 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 5: around for some meeting space in South Florida Leap the 633 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 5: lap our producers still working on getting some quotes from 634 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 5: some hotels. But what if the theory was that maybe 635 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 5: this was the cheaper way of finding a way to 636 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 5: congregate for some NFLPA meeting, was it was some of 637 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 5: those V I V I P suites they've got there 638 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 5: at Tutsi's. Would that would that maybe make some sense 639 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 5: to you them? 640 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: Team bonding, team bonding? 641 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 8: But how the hell are they concentrating on what they're 642 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 8: talking about? Give me a break, by the way, what 643 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 8: do you guys get in space in Miami in Miami four? 644 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 8: What are we talking about? 645 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 5: Well, you know, we were just shopping around to think 646 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 5: if maybe that was the reason why, Like Lloyd how 647 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 5: was like, we've been looking. 648 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 8: For you're coming I thought you're coming down. 649 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 5: We might if Lee gets a good enough deal at Tutsis, 650 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 5: Apparently we might be coming back. 651 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 8: Well, le's get to go. I mean, you know, back 652 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 8: in the day, you probably could have got a good 653 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 8: deal with the cheat hup the corner over here somewhere. 654 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 5: Actually, by the way, Pete, you've been in South Florida 655 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 5: for quite some time, is Tutsi's the spot? I mean, 656 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 5: what would be the places that maybe Lloyd hol missed 657 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 5: on in that regard. 658 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 8: No, by the way, I have never been to Tutsis. 659 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 8: I can honestly say that. But back in the day, 660 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 8: when when, when, when I was growing up here and 661 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 8: we used to go to those astablished and there was 662 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 8: like about twenty of them in Broward County. They're not 663 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 8: there anymore. I mean they had you know, solid Gold 664 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 8: and uh the Monk and the Cheetah and all these 665 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 8: other plays. You know, Yeah, I mean they were all 666 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 8: over the place. But now there's now there's not as 667 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 8: many of them. And I never been I've never acon 668 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 8: honestly said, I've never been to Tussies. 669 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 3: Pete. 670 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: Have you before I let you go, have you started 671 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: to map out your training camp tour? 672 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 3: How's that looking? 673 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 5: What are we? 674 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 8: What are you I'm going? I'm going. I told I 675 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 8: told you I start Saturday, and uh, in Miami with 676 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 8: camp softy. You know, they they're gonna they love they 677 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 8: they love when I come because I do. Was talk 678 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 8: about how soft the practices are and who's going to 679 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 8: be I'm gonna find the players, but they're still not 680 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 8: coming in on time. Well why is that? Because your 681 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 8: team is soft? 682 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,479 Speaker 5: How about that? 683 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 3: So you're start with the Dolphins and then I. 684 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 8: Got Jackson, I got Tampa, Jacksonville, Green Bay, Buffalo, and 685 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 8: a couple others. I think I'm gonna go to after that. 686 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,239 Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean, it's it's fun to get out 687 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 8: there and see him and when you get there. It's 688 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 8: one thing about training camp. It's entirely different than it 689 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 8: used to be. First off, nobody hits anymore barely. Two, 690 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 8: you practice once a day. Three this access is so 691 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 8: limited from what it used to be. Everything is you know, 692 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 8: you know, well, let's do this here. Let's bring this 693 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 8: guy over here. We'll bring him here. Instead of having 694 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 8: when guys walk off the field, used to be able 695 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 8: to grab Brady when you played, If you came off 696 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 8: the practice field, a guy, media guy wanted to talk 697 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 8: to you and go grab you. Hey, Brady, can I 698 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 8: get you for a few seconds? Right, you know, and 699 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 8: it was like you'd have a conversation with him, you 700 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 8: get to know him a little bit, you get to 701 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 8: know the guy. There's none of that anymore. It's gone. 702 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,959 Speaker 8: It's all it's all restricted and getting to talk to 703 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 8: some you know, pr people stand next to you when 704 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 8: you talk to players, what are you scared of? You're 705 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 8: scared of me, You're scared of the player. And so 706 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 8: I think that we've gotten to the point where the 707 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 8: NFL has become very in the way they run things, 708 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 8: and it's hurt the relationship between the team and the media. 709 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 8: And some of that has to do with you know, 710 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 8: these guys have their own individual social media things. They 711 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 8: no longer they no longer need the media anymore. You 712 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 8: know what I'm saying, They don't need if you're if 713 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 8: you're Travis Hunter and Jacksonville, you do all your stuff 714 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 8: on social media. You don't need the media to help 715 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 8: you get your message out, you know, or anybody else. 716 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 8: And so I think it's changed in dynamic of the 717 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 8: way you cover a team, and I think it's hurt 718 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 8: the league. It's hurt the relationship with player and media, 719 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 8: and I think ultimately, in the end, like somebody once 720 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 8: said to me, if they don't talk, and I've said 721 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 8: this many a time. You've heard me say this. Pretty 722 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 8: if you don't talk to you, then just rain it 723 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 8: down on them. They have no record. Rain it, rain it, 724 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 8: rain it. Just get them in the MUDs. Mean, you 725 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 8: can never come to me and say anything because you 726 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 8: don't talk to me. 727 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 5: I literally think I went three for three today with 728 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 5: p Prisco. 729 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 8: So you know, Brady, you know what you know how 730 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 8: to you know how to tweak, you know how to 731 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,239 Speaker 8: get me going. I'm like a wind up doll. You 732 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 8: just turned. 733 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: The pre Pee Prisco wind up doll on Tuesday mornings here. 734 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 8: That would be a top seller. You are you know, 735 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 8: you just push the button and you say you are 736 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 8: what you are? You know. 737 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 5: I'm gonna build a bear review Pete. I'm gonna give 738 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 5: it to all my kids. They'll have all your quotes on. 739 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 8: Think about it. Think about the life lessons your kids 740 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 8: would learn from me, Brady. Come on, there's so many 741 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 8: of them, so many of them, so many is good 742 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 8: for me? I mean that's number one first and foremost. 743 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 8: There'd be on any kids lesson what's good for me 744 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 8: is good for me? There is period. End of story. 745 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: The Great p Prisco with us here is senior NFL 746 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports h Q analysts. Get 747 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: him on X at Prisco CBS. Pete, good luck on 748 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: the start of training camp and we'll talk. 749 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 3: Again next week. 750 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 8: See Pete, You got a guy there. 751 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 3: He is Pete Prisco. 752 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, So hopefully we can pull the uh, the prediction 753 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 1: and the f through from Brady to Pete, predicting two 754 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: hours in advance what Pete Prisco was going to say 755 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: in response to each question he gave him. It is 756 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 1: two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox 757 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. So possibly that and another edition of Lee's 758 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: Leftovers as we close up shop here on a Tuesday 759 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: morning here on. 760 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 7: FSR, be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros 761 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 7: and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, 762 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 7: and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 763 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, 764 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with the air. We'll be back 765 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,959 Speaker 1: on the air tomorrow, same time, same place, six am 766 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific. We'll have our Midweek Awards, 767 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: the old p Petros Popadacus will stop by. 768 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 3: All of that'll be. 769 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 1: Yours here tomorrow morning on the Wednesday edition of this show. 770 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: If you've missed any of today's show, though, you can 771 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: check out the podcast. It'll be posted shortly after we 772 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: go off the air. Just search two Pros wherever you 773 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: get your podcast. Be sure to follow and review the 774 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: podcast and rated five stars. Again, just searched two Pros. 775 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: Wherever you get your podcast. You'll find today's show on 776 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: a best of version posted right after we get off 777 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: the air. 778 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 7: These might smell a little fun came what is that? 779 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 6: Sounds incredible, but they're still good. 780 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 7: Time to find out what slack? It's Lee's lap Jovers? 781 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 3: All right to lap? What do we got? 782 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 5: All right? 783 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 6: Guys, final Lee's Leftovers for a week here because I'm 784 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 6: getting suspended because my last few les leftovers were a 785 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 6: bunch of stinkers. So I'll try and just preview the 786 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 6: week ahead for you guys. You guys know that Happy 787 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 6: Gillmore two's coming out on the twenty seventh. And I 788 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 6: don't know if you guys saw this, but they were 789 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 6: Callaway was selling these wicked little custom hockey putters. You know, 790 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 6: if you've seen the movie obviously you know he uses 791 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 6: a hockey stick hybrid for his putter. Well, it's sold 792 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 6: out right away. There were five hundred bucks, and then 793 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 6: they were being turned around for up to three thousand dollars. 794 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 6: That price has dropped and they do plan on putting 795 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 6: out some more come Friday when the movie is released, 796 00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 6: and you can also win them at guess where Top Golf? 797 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 6: He Top Golf's having a couple of weekends where you can. 798 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 5: Go in Las Vegas. Yeah, well, I mean, of all 799 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 5: the things to do here in Las Vegas, why not 800 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 5: go to Top head. 801 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: On over to MGM MGM Grant. I passed by the 802 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 1: other day Top Golf. 803 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there's nothing else to do here in 804 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 5: Las Vegas. 805 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, exactly. They'll probably be playing the movie on 806 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 6: the big screens. You know, it'd be really cool. It'd 807 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 6: be really cool. 808 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 5: Brady Reserves, Ippy Gilmore have that big of a call 809 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 5: following where they can make putters like that. I guess, yeah, 810 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 5: sold out? 811 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 6: Oh it is it is? By definition? 812 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 5: Did they sell that? 813 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 6: I did have that in front of me. Well, it 814 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 6: sold out in less than. 815 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 5: It sold out a town many did they sell? 816 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 6: Uh, you know, they they didn't say the exact number, 817 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 6: but they said they thought they were gonna have enough 818 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 6: in supply until November. They didn't give an exact number 819 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 6: in this in this, but they did say that they 820 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 6: immediately started producing more to be released on Friday. 821 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 5: Got it? 822 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 6: Ye, So there you go. Oh, that reminds me. While 823 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 6: I was dog sitting, so I was going out golfing, 824 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 6: and uh, I realized I was running a little late, 825 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 6: and I was like, you know what, this guy probably 826 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 6: has a good set of golf clubs. So I lived 827 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 6: in the closet, I found his golf clubs, took those out. Oh, 828 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 6: I had the best day ever on the golf course 829 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 6: because you know me, I got these old crappy. 830 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 5: Cold you use some of the dudes golf club? Did 831 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 5: you like golf? The full round of golf with others 832 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 5: some of the guy's clubs. And he doesn't know this. 833 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 6: Nope. 834 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 5: I mean that's pretty high up there, buddy. That might 835 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 5: be like borrowing someone's wife. That's like the same thing. 836 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 6: Anybody would be pissed. 837 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 3: Why did you do that, Lee? 838 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, because my club suck man. I got these old 839 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 6: I got these old clubs I don't have, like the 840 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 6: cool carbon fiber fantasy. 841 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 5: Just go take the buy in like you did last 842 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 5: year and just spent on some new clubs. 843 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: It would be like me going, hey, my truck's a 844 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: little old. Let me take another one from the parking 845 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: lot for a while. Like why would you think that 846 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: would be okay? 847 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 6: He's not going to know. He didn't pay me to 848 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 6: watch his dog. That's what you know. That's the prices. 849 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 5: But watching the dog. Wait, why are you watching the 850 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 5: dog then? 851 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 6: Because he's my neighbor, he's my buddy. I like the 852 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 6: dog gets me out walking. 853 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 5: He didn't he put diapers on it. 854 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 6: I do put diapers on that dog. Bye, Toby, all right, 855 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 6: see you guys in the week. 856 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 3: The dog's dead.