1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Danny Siak joins me 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: we talk Hardknos Episode four, Sunday's heartbreaking loss is relived 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: all over again. Got some real life moments on and 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: off the field that was featured in this latest episode. 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: Plus it is the bye week and a shout out 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: to a couple of thirty year olds who are not 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: acting or perhaps better said, playing their age. It's Cardinals 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: Cover two, episode six, twenty one, and it starts now. 9 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two, hitting the backfield and down 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: he goes for a loss. JJ Watt nailed it. Cardinals 11 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: Cover two is presented by Hun Day, proud partner of 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit acy 13 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com Slash podcasts. He's at the ten half 14 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: of five peas in again so for Harry Magic. WHOA, 15 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: here's Craig griolou So. As we detailed last Weekdanny, it 16 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: is much more enjoyable watching experience when it is a 17 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: win to look back on. And unfortunately, Hard Knocks Episode 18 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: four reliving the heartbreaking, frustrating loss to the Los Angeles 19 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: Chargers twenty five, twenty four. I did not feel any better. 20 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: Having watched Hard Knock episode four. I was on the 21 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: verge of excitement because the way the Cardinals dominated that 22 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: first half. It was, Oh, my gosh, they deserve to 23 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: win this game. Look how well they're playing. And then 24 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, wait a second, I know how 25 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: the story ends, and then I got sad again watching. Yeah, 26 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: it was amazing because what was talked about during the week, 27 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: what the coaches preached about, Justin Herbert very physical, mobile, 28 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: gets the ball out fast. It is a run first offense. 29 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: According to Vans. Joseph heck j told us in the 30 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: media that it was a past first offense. So it 31 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: was the onus was on the defense to get after Herbert, 32 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: and they did four sex in that game. It was 33 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: a It was almost a perfect first quarter for the 34 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: defense and maybe even going all the way into the 35 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: early stages of the third quarter defensively, as far as look, 36 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: it's hard to stop every team every possession, but that 37 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: defense played very, very well until they didn't. And that 38 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: was kind of the theme of that game. The pressure 39 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: was on Justin Herbert. I thought that the Cardinals generated 40 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: good pressure on him. What was unfortunate was having two 41 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: turnovers overturned in favor of the Chargers, the forced fumble 42 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: that they said cornerback trayvon Mullen and on the ground 43 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: took from the Chargers receiver and so they gave it 44 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: to the Chargers who went on to score. And then 45 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: Savan Collins interception which they said didn't have control or 46 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: before it hit the ground, And not that this should happen, 47 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: but I felt like we were watching it live at 48 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: State Firm Stadium, especially after the fumble recovery which went 49 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: to La. It felt like the air had been taken out, 50 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: like you could feel the momentum shift, which isn't what 51 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: you want in that situation. You want them, the defense 52 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: to mentally stay locked in, and I feel like that 53 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: showed when the Chargers went and they scored. You're right, 54 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: the defense was good until they weren't. It just kind 55 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: of unraveled rather quickly late in the third and into 56 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter when the Chargers came back, and then 57 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: they score, and then they have a successful two point 58 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: conversion and leave the Cardinals with fifteen seconds on the clock. 59 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: The cameras caught head coach Cliff Kingsbury when we talk 60 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: about that fumble recovery that wasn't on the sidelines, saying, quote, 61 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: you don't see that called very often, because it did 62 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: look like Mullen and Bandy both had their hands on 63 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: that football and I guess by rule, which when I 64 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: went back and watched the game the CBS broadcast, Jean 65 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: Stator said, yeah, the tide goes to the offense. So unfortunate, 66 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: But it did seem to change even though that happened 67 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: in the second quarter. Did seem to change momentum, if 68 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: you believe in it or not. I tend to believe 69 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: in that momentum. Chargers got new life and they succeeded. 70 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: They were able to excel and keep the game in 71 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: their favor, even though the Cardinals did score their late 72 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: or to say early in the fourth quarter to take 73 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: the lead. But is it just it was not the 74 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals day on Sunday, which is unfortunate because coming off 75 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: a short week. And the one thing that we did 76 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: see in Hard Knocks Episode four was the effort was 77 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 1: there from the get go. And that was the biggest question, 78 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: Danny that we had going into that game. What was 79 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: the team going to look like? How was their response 80 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: going to be coming off that beat down by the 81 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers in Mexico City. I agreg I don't 82 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: think you can say that the effort wasn't there, and 83 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: we've really heard that from the players all years. The 84 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: effort's been there, but the execution has not. This is 85 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: not all on the defense of how the game kind 86 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: of fell apart and the Chargers came back to win 87 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: twenty four. In the first half, the Cardinals offense didn't 88 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: punt once, and if you count the final fifteen seconds, 89 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: there are three of their four final possessions were three 90 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: and outs. You have a lead, all you gotta do 91 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: is get a few first downs, run the clock and 92 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: you're fine. And they could not execute when they needed to. 93 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: The most unfortunate and again frustrating having to watch that 94 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: all over again, this time basically at field level, when 95 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: you can see it and feel it as far as 96 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: the hitting that is going on between the offense and defense. 97 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: It did mark the first time on Sunday that we 98 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: did see DeAndre Hopkins and Hollywood Brown on the field 99 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: at the same time. Got a little bit more of 100 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: Hollywood in this episode. As far as looking back at 101 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: the injury in week six, the broken foot healed or 102 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: the rehab went better than anticipated, allowing him to come 103 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: back maybe be a little bit sooner than anyone anticipated. 104 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: And then I thought some gamesmanship And this is this 105 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: is why Hard Knocks and the end season of Hard Knocks, 106 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: where you can capture just what is said behind closed 107 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: doors and then said publicly. Because when we talk about 108 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown, what did everyone expect Hollywood Brown was going 109 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: to be on a pitch count against the Chargers. Yet 110 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: what did we see in episode four Camp Turner. Oh, 111 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: Hollywood's gonna be a big part of the game plan. 112 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: He'll line up in the slot. And what happened, Yeah, 113 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: Hollywood is a big part of that game played sixty 114 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: four of the sixty six offensive snaps. Don't take it 115 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: out on me, Craig. I'm not the one who told 116 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: you that. The head coach, Cliff Kingsbury telling the media 117 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: that Hollywood Cray. That's true, potentially, But I just I 118 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: think it was more gamesmanship than anything. Yes, because Cliff 119 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: does play the game very very well. Yes he does. 120 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: It was the first time to have Hollywood Brown out 121 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: there with you Andrew Hopkins, because hop was suspended the 122 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: first six weeks and then that final game before he 123 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: came back, Hollywood hurt his foot, so he missed five games. 124 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: I also thought it was huge that it was the 125 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: return of Kyler Murray, who missed two games with his hamstring, 126 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: and having Kyler out there with those two receivers who 127 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: he trusts so well. And it's unfortunate because I feel 128 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: like the expectation is so high to have both receivers 129 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: out there, and they played well enough, right hop had 130 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: that great touchdown we saw, We got a chance to 131 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: see Hollywood talking about some of the blocks he was making. 132 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: Just having both of them out there alone changes the 133 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: way that the defense is having to go up against 134 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: you all of those things, and maybe the expectations are 135 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: too high from what we've been seeing from this offense 136 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: as a whole. It's just, you know, you kind of 137 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: want you wish you had that immediate spark and that 138 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: things were just going to be amazing having them all 139 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: out there. So hopefully that's kind of what we get 140 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: to see, regardless of how the rest of the season 141 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: pan out. I will say like even though we didn't 142 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: necessarily see that spark with both receivers out there, we 143 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: saw the spark and we saw that James Connor definitely 144 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: still has it in him. He had his first hundred 145 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: yard rushing game as a Cardinal, the tenth of his career. 146 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: I know we're going to get into a little bit 147 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: of the changes behind the run game, but the fact 148 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: that the Cardinals were able to establish the run and 149 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: control at least the first half of the game with 150 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: the run. And I know that the Chargers are terrible 151 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: at defending the run, right, but I think back to 152 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: playing in Seattle and how Seattle's defense was not good 153 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: at the time and the Cardinals couldn't capitalize. Arizona was 154 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,599 Speaker 1: able to capitalize on the Charger's weakness defensively, which was 155 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: stopping the run. And I like that we were able 156 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: to see that with James Connor. Ohll, it's a good 157 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: point on your behalf as far as diving into that, 158 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: because it was a story going into the week, but 159 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: I didn't want to go back to your The Hollywood 160 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: Brown and Kyle the Murray relationship I had forgotten or 161 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: maybe I didn't even know, but when Kyler mentioned that 162 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: he hosted Hollywood on his visit to Oklahoma and that's 163 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: where their friendship sparked. I do know that they were 164 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: both on the scout team that first year at Oklahoma, 165 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: and then Kyler became the starter of the next year. 166 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,599 Speaker 1: But I did not know it wouldn't even before that 167 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: as far as hosting Hollywood before he even had signed 168 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: with Oklahoma. It makes sense when you hear the two 169 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 1: of them say that the kind of chemistry they have 170 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: is not just from being teammates, but from being best 171 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: friends and understanding what just to look, where they want 172 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: to go, what their tendencies are. Makes a lot of sense. 173 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: All right. Let it's like the two of us, two 174 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: best friends, Craig, we can just look at each other 175 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,599 Speaker 1: and we know, we just know what each other is 176 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: thinking and finish each other sentences. That what you're talking about, 177 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: when you were supposed to finish each other's and then 178 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: I was supposed to say sentences. Sorry, We'll get them 179 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: next time, next time, next time. Here on Cardinals, Covered two, 180 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: presented by Hunday proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. All 181 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: right the way, The episode began recapping the loss of 182 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers and then once again mentioning that 183 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: Sean Coogler had been fired relieved of his duties due 184 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: to a in Mexico City, and you heard Kelvin Beacham say, quote, 185 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 1: we got to move on. And then Steve Hyden and 186 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: Brian Nakin in the offensive line room and Hyden leading 187 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: the room on a short week, and all the turmoil 188 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: that that room had undergone. Forget the fact that it 189 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: was Calvin Beecham and four backups and the eighth different 190 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: offensive line combination. But now you throw in the wrinkle that, Okay, 191 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: we have a new lead voice in that room in 192 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: Steve Hyden. He goes from tight ends coach to leave 193 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: the offensive line. Brian Nakin remains the assistant, Mike Bercovici 194 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: now becomes the tight ends coach, and you got to 195 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: see a little bit basically Hyden mid season and just 196 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: think of changing jobs or changing schools mid year, mid 197 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: semester and walking into a room, Yeah, you're familiar with 198 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: all those players, but then walking and saying, Okay, this 199 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: is kind of what I'm thinking, this is what I 200 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: want to do. Let's have an open dialogue, open communication. 201 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: But at the same time, things are going to be 202 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: a little bit different, as you would expect, because any 203 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: new leadership brings differences. It would be difficult. I'd imagine 204 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: if it were at the start of the season, if 205 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: you had all five of your starting offensive lineman, So 206 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: to have this change at this point in the season, 207 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: this many games, in this point in the season, at 208 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: where the Cardinals stand and how they've been playing, and 209 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: having four of your five starting offensive linemen on ir 210 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: that is incredibly difficult. And I'm sure that the coaches 211 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: have relationships with players on the entire team, but I 212 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: can't imagine that when you're having to as opposed to 213 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, only having to really work with a handful 214 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: of tight ends, to now have at least five of 215 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: your starting offensive lineman and so many more in the 216 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: rotation that these players that I can't imagine. He has 217 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: very close relationships to begin with, and now you're having 218 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: to learn the tendencies of all of these players as 219 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: individuals and as a unit, and as your left side 220 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: and your right side and interior. There's so much going on. 221 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine how difficult that might be. And 222 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: I loved that when in the quarterbacks room, quarterbacks coach 223 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: camp Turner brought that up to the quarterbacks. It was 224 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, it was Coult McCoy, Trace McSorley and Colt's 225 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: response was, let's rush for a hundred yards. What do 226 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: they do, Craig, They rushed for better than one hundred yards, 227 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: almost two hundred yards. See that was you finishing my sentence. 228 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: That's that chemistry. That's what we do here on Cardinals 229 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: cover too. Yeah, because as much as it was a 230 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: shock to the offensive lineman about what had gone on 231 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: and the changes, to hear Colt say okay, who's running 232 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: the offensive line like a legit question and camp Turner, 233 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks coach, has to make the announcement, if you will, 234 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: let everyone know what's going on. And then what you said, Colt, immediately, 235 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: I put money on it right now as far as 236 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: we're going to rush for a hundred yards, And that 237 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: just goes to the what they know of Hayden and 238 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: what he likes to do and the tight ends as 239 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: far as blocking and the receiving game. But again, a 240 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: different perspective in that room mid season, this late in 241 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: the year. I mean, yet, what happened. Not only did 242 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: they rush for one hundred and eighty one yards on 243 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: the ground, but Kyler Murray was only touched once and 244 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: that was the sack. Late in the fourth quarter. It 245 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: was basically a perfect game for the offensive line. Very impressive, 246 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: very impressive that to do that with a coaching change, 247 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: but to also do that with the type of coaching change, 248 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: the personnel and the reason behind that to do that 249 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: where still recently in the last what two weeks, the 250 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals released RB two Eno Benjamin. So with Darryl Williams 251 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: still on I R, it's really just James Conner and 252 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: then you've got rookie Kyante Ingraham as I mean supplementary. 253 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: Doesn't even feel that that feels like too much with 254 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: how little they've been using Keyante and had just being 255 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: the James Connor Show. There's there's a lot of moving 256 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: parts to find six us right now. And again, while 257 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: the Chargers defense that was their downfall and stopping the run, 258 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: the Cardinals run game and the protection with Kyler Murray, 259 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: it did look good. Only the second time this season 260 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: that the Cardinals had more Russian attempts than passing attempts, 261 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: and that was the case on Sunday. Now, question is, 262 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: even with this bye week, is that something that you 263 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: now can build upon. Yes, it was the Chargers. It 264 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: was a very poor rush defense, but can you do 265 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: it against the Patriots? Can you do it against the Broncos? 266 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: Can you do it now? Moving forward? As long as 267 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: James Connor stays healthy. Are you asking if it's sustainable 268 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: or you're just saying more in general? Both? I mean, 269 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: I do think a successful run game is sustainable, but 270 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: there's a lot of a lot needs to go right. One, 271 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: you need to stay healthy and in two those Kelvin 272 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: Beacham in the four backups, if you will, we need 273 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: to come up with the nickname for the offensive line 274 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: to make sure game like make sure beach has you know, 275 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: top billing. When we talk about the old lines and 276 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: the boys. There you go. I like that Beam Beacham's Boys. 277 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: Beacham's Boys is he is the elder space according to 278 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury Room. He can be the He could basically 279 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: coach the room if he wanted to. He does not 280 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: want to, but he could. And can you ask Beacham's 281 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: Boys to do it again for a second game, a 282 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: third game to ride out this regular season? I don't 283 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: think you have a choice. I think the question becomes, 284 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: can you hand James Connor the rock twenty five times? 285 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: I would like to say yes, Um, but again, when 286 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: it's not like they have a true one two punch 287 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: right now to kind of give him rest in those 288 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: reps And from what I know about James Connor, I'd 289 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: imagine just because he has been hurt and hasn't had 290 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: the kind of year he had last year, I'd imagine 291 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to share the reps um. I don't 292 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: know how sustainable that is. I mean, there's only five 293 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: games five games left, so it's quite possible they hand 294 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: him the ball twenty plus times in those games if 295 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: they're able to. It pends on if the Cardinals are 296 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: able to get a lead like they were against the Chargers, 297 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: and if they're able to have that kind of protection 298 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: like they were against the Chargers, and the type of 299 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: time that they had. There's a lot that goes into it. 300 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: I don't think that you have any choice of them 301 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: to ask the offensive line, whatever that combination is, when 302 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: we get back from the bye, you have to ask 303 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: them to play the same way. Stay ahead of schedule, 304 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: Cliff's favorite phrase when you talk about the offense. You 305 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: stay ahead of schedule, then you can do a little 306 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: bit more. You play behind the sticks, then you're forced, 307 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: you become one dimensional. You're forced to throw the football 308 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: more than you want to. And the Cardinals on Sunday 309 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: stayed ahead of the chains, stayed on schedule, and we're 310 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: able to consistently run the football. They just weren't able 311 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: to when it came to running the football to run 312 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: out the clock and get those final few first downs, 313 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: they couldn't. And we saw it all again on Hard 314 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: Knocks in season episode four. What else to You in 315 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: episode four stood out, either on field or off field. 316 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: I thought it was really interesting talking to Isaiah Simmons. 317 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: It feels like an entirely different season when he was 318 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: benched and that was the season opener against the Chiefs 319 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: and for a couple of games he had a significant 320 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 1: cut in his playtime and they had an interview with him. 321 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: They had some shots of him talking with some coaches 322 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: and Isaiah saying that was the first time in his 323 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: career and in college when he was at Clumson that 324 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: he'd been benched and that was something that mentally he 325 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: had to work through. And we heard from Cliff Kingsbury, 326 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: were heard from Vance Joseph at the time when Isaiah 327 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: one lost those snaps and two when he started to 328 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: earn them back. That it was because he had earned 329 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: them back. It wasn't just to give him back to him, 330 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: just because that they saw that how he was handling 331 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: it mentally and saw how he was practicing. By that point, 332 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: Zavin Collins had the green ed on his helmet, so 333 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: he was calling plays on defense. It was no longer Isaiah. 334 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: But I did think that was really interesting of him 335 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: asking what do I need to be doing? What am 336 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: I still missing here? Because while his new hybrid role, 337 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: he's technically still a linebacker, he's in the safety room 338 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: is more because of that natural ability, something that he's 339 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: very comfortable with with that length and that speed and 340 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: him wanting to rush the passer and then dropping back 341 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: into coverage. It still knew this year of how the 342 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: Cardinals have been using him, and so I thought it 343 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: was really interesting when Isaiah is so confident to see 344 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: the behind the scenes of the struggles that he was 345 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: facing at the start of the season because he didn't 346 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: get like many like every starter, he didn't get those 347 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: snaps in the preseason. So I thought it was really 348 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: interesting to kind of go back to the start of 349 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: the season and hear him talk about that showed some 350 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: real vulnerability in that moment and speaking with DB's coach 351 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: Marcus Robertson and Marcus telling him what you need to 352 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: do to get your snap apps back, what you need 353 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: to show, specifically vance Joseph in order to get back 354 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: on the football field, because you're right benched in week 355 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: one and then in the next two weeks. I went 356 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: back and looked it up fifteen and sixteen snaps respectively. Now, 357 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: as we saw in Hard Knox Episode four, and then 358 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: we've seen over the last six weeks, he is back 359 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: in the starting lineup, playing much more. It's still that 360 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: consistency that this coaching staff wants to see. Yes, he 361 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: can make the highlight real plays, but it's the every 362 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: down play that Simmons continues to struggle with. And this 363 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: episode was an interesting one because I'm not sure when 364 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: they when Hard Knocks did that interview and they just 365 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: kind of had it, or if the timing was spot 366 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: on for them to do that interview last week before 367 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: this game, because they showed a lot of Isaiah with 368 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: the the misreads in this Chargers game. Really that that 369 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: two point conversion that sealed the deal, and that's hard 370 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: I would imagine if he's watching to rewatch that, you know, 371 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be like the first time of him probably 372 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: feeling like that was on him. But that's hard because 373 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: like at the end of the day there he's not 374 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: the only one out there. But people make mistakes, and 375 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: that's you know, great about hard knocks, and they get 376 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: to cover all the really great things, and then they 377 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: also cover things like this where it's spotlights and it 378 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: might feel like it was one guy's mistake and while 379 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: that might have been his read, I can't imagine that's 380 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: easy to kind of relive through the episode. Hard to 381 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: watch as well. Antonio Hamilton, who was singled out nationally 382 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: by Troy Aikman on the Monday night broadcast against the 383 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: forty nine ers and then Buddha Baker, made some postgame 384 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: comments about not finishing, not playing all the way to 385 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: the end, and Hamilton owned up to it. We saw 386 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: that in episode three, we see it again in episode four, 387 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: he apologizing not only to his teammates but the coaching 388 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: staff as well. And yeah, as the cliche, as it 389 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: may be, the eye and the sky does not lie. 390 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: What you see on tape is the effort and the 391 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: performance that you put out and that last George Kittle 392 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: touchdown in which Hamilton at the time thought he went 393 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: out of bounce. He did not, but he let up 394 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: and it was not a good look. And you have 395 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: to relive that once you get back and watch the film, 396 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: and it clearly stuck with him. He was talking about 397 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: it at practice with Kingsbury, and Kingsbury just saying, look, 398 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: man like, just get out there and keep playing hard, like, 399 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: keep doing what you do. And Hamilton was saying, was 400 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: on him on the bench during the game. Clearly was 401 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: still eating away at him talking at practice, just you know, 402 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: thought he was out of bounce. But I think the lesson, 403 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: I would imagine the lesson had been learned. I will 404 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: say something too from the episode, really kind of the 405 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: only thing that was off the field was about DeAndre Hopkins, 406 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: and I don't want people to think that showing hop 407 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving with his head coach and his teammates going 408 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: to a woman shelter for survivors of domestic abuse, to 409 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: think that that is something for hard knocks. Hop does 410 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: stuff like that all the time, without media, without pr 411 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: He will go and he will fill up a van 412 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: with water bottles and he will go downtown Phoenix, and 413 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: he will drive around and see people who are out 414 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 1: in the street, who are homeless, who need water, who 415 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: need food. He does that kind of stuff already, so 416 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: I don't want people to think that that was just 417 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: for show. Hop's mom is a survivor of domestic violence, 418 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: So I really did like to get to see the 419 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: array of teammates that were there with him, rookies on offense, 420 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: on defense. Cliff Kingsbury was there. There was a fan 421 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: who cracked me up. Her name was Rondo. When she 422 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: was taking pictures and she offered to get out there 423 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: and help Hop on the field catch the balls, and 424 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: he's like, well, what are you gonna do And she's like, well, 425 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick him. I'm gonna knock him down. And 426 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: I just like, I love that kind of stuff to 427 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: see the personality and that is who Hopkins is. Doing 428 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: things like that for the community, doing good and not 429 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: just for show, not just so people think he's a 430 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: good person, but because he is. And that's real life 431 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: for d Hop. He went through it as a kid, 432 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: saw his mom go through it. Now he's paying it forward, 433 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: trying to make things better. The interaction with the young 434 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: kid as far as asking how his grays were, and 435 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: he talked about just being able to give back and 436 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: calling it a blessing, blessing. So I did think I 437 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: did like that aspect and it does kind of once 438 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: again showcase these players as human beings, father's, husband's brothers, sons, 439 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: away from the facility, away from the football field, and 440 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,479 Speaker 1: you get to know him a little bit better. Now, 441 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: I'll say this about that segment if you will. It 442 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: did produce to me, maybe laugh out loud, best moments 443 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: of hard knocks in season for me, and that was 444 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: when one woman asked Cliff Kingsbury, are you the coach 445 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: to which cliffers bide I am. So Again, reality slaps 446 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: you in the face sometimes because you get put on 447 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: these pedital pedestals, whether you're you know, coach, player or 448 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: whatever whatever walk alife or you know, president, CEO, whatever 449 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: business it is, and then all of a sudden you're 450 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: just random person that not everyone knows who you are 451 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: what you do. Yet I do think the appreciation for 452 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: what the players and the coach or Cliff Kingsbury did 453 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: on that day on Thanksgiving meant a lot to everyone 454 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: in there. But I did I did laugh I found 455 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: it very funny, and I'm sure that once again Cliff 456 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: can go well came all right. It's like a slap 457 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: back to reality. But you know what, even with people 458 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: who know who he is, Cliff very is such a 459 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: private person to begin with that I would imagine he 460 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: was probably a little flattered by that, like, oh, okay, great, 461 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: Like I'm just I'm just here doing like something I 462 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: should be doing. I'm just here to, like, you know, 463 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: change people's lives. I'm not here because I'm the head 464 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: coach of the Arizona Cardinals, Like I'm just here because 465 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: I want to be here as a person. And I 466 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: do love that on Thanksgiving, where you know people are 467 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: spending time with their families looking back at what they're 468 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: thankful for. To take that time and be out in 469 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: the community and make a difference in people's lives says 470 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: a lot about these players as people and the organization 471 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: as a whole. I think, by the way, a quick 472 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: note on Hopkins, because I went back and look this up. 473 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: It's he and JJ Watt, I think are having two 474 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: very good seasons despite their age. If you will Watt 475 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: at thirty three at Hopkins at thirty did you know 476 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: Danny that since hop has returned, so since Week seven, 477 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: he leads the league in receptions and ranks third in 478 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: receiving yards, only behind Davante Adams and Justin Jefferson. Again, 479 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: this is since week seven, so the only time he's 480 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: been on the field is since Week seven, and he's 481 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: basically picked off, picked up where he left off. It's incredible. 482 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: I got a chance to talk with DeAndre Hopkins on 483 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: my Sideline Exchange interview actually prior to the Mexico City 484 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: game against the forty nine ers, and I had asked 485 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: him that because at the time he had had thirty 486 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: six receptions and in that time span it was the 487 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: most in the league. And I just asked him how 488 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: he was able to have such a smooth transition back 489 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: onto the field, back into this offense after missing time, 490 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: and he said, it's because he's played so much football, 491 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: and not only that, but he's played with so many 492 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in his career, because that was at the time 493 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: when Kyler Murray was still out nursing at hamstring, and 494 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: that it all stems from the communication and the communication 495 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,239 Speaker 1: with your quarterbacks and it's so important, and that's how 496 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: he's been able to pull it off and do what 497 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: de hop does, and that is make uncatchable throws catchable. 498 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: We saw that against the Chargers. To that one handed 499 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: second down catch for four yards, You'll never see a 500 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: better four yards. Put that arm out and snagged her 501 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: right back in. Otherwise that's an interception. Yes. By the way, 502 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: that was the only time either he or Hollywood were 503 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: targeted in that fourth quarter. Tray McBride was targeted twice 504 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. So when you're looking at things 505 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: here during this bye week to fix correct learn from, 506 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: I would put that near the top. As far as 507 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: going back to what we were talking about, Hollywood and 508 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: de hop getting more of the attention, more of the targets, 509 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: if you will. And I don't know how much of 510 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: that comes from in game adjustments by the Chargers, but 511 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: you have two receivers in Hollywood Brown and DeAndre Hopkins 512 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: who again can make those uncatchable throws catchable, and they 513 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: should be targeted more than that late in the game, 514 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: whether you are up or not, if you're passing the ball, 515 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: that's who you should be got looking to, especially when 516 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: you have Rondo Moore out, especially when you have Zach 517 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: Ertz out. It should be those two season ten for Hopkins, 518 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: season twelve for JJ Watt, and it is quiet around 519 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: the facility. Players are off this week and don't hear 520 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: a lot from the players unless they go on social media. 521 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: And JJ Watt earlier on Wednesday on social media, responding 522 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: to a Pro Football Focus tweet that said he leads 523 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: the league in pressure since week seven with thirty loved 524 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: the response from JJ quote, maybe I should have my 525 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: Maybe I should have my heart shocked more often, end 526 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: of tweets. If he's joking about it, he's got to 527 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: be okay, right, Yes, I mean he's having about only 528 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: he can joke about it, and maybe he's onto something. No, 529 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: it is quite impressive that the two of them are 530 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,719 Speaker 1: having the seasons they are having, especially in a year 531 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: where there are so many injuries and on defense you're 532 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: having to rely on more of that younger depth. You 533 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: need the two of them to step up, and that's 534 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: exactly what they have when they have been out on 535 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: the field. It is interesting. I believe JJ contract. JJ 536 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: is scheduled to be a free agent next year, so 537 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: there will be I'm sure many lengthy discussions on what 538 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: the right move is from his perspective, from the team's perspective, 539 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: But he is absolutely making a case for himself that 540 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: if he wants to be here. It's clear he can 541 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: still generate pressure, he can still get those sacks. He 542 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: still makes a difference out on the field, leads the 543 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: team in sacks third and quarterback hits second and tackles 544 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: for loss. And again this at the age of thirty three, 545 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: whether it's here or somewhere else, provided JJ still want 546 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: to play. Because the other explanation for this resurgence, if 547 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: you will, since week seven is JJ did mention that 548 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: his son was also born in week seven, So perhaps 549 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: that dad's strength. If you will, kicking in on the 550 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: football field, do you have the dad's strength? I do not, 551 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: no longer. Initially when your child is born, absolutely, but 552 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: then as they get older and don't need you as much, Yeah, 553 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: that strength goes away. Geez, Craig, It's a circle of life. 554 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: It's just the way it is, the way things go. 555 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: If we're talking about dad, should I use this moment 556 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: to us shout out my dad, who's having a milestone 557 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: birthday today. I'm going to be a good daughter. I'm 558 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: not going to say how old he's turning, but it's 559 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,239 Speaker 1: a pretty big one. So happy birthday dad. Okay, well, 560 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that he's not a hundred, so milestones. Milestones 561 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: that you usually celebrate would be like forty or fifty, 562 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: maybe even sixty five, so something like that. Now he is, 563 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: he is not sixty five, and I'm going to leave 564 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: it at that, Happy birthday, Dad, Such a good daughter 565 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: here on this platform to give a shout. I'm trying 566 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: two shout outs. You've given your parents earlier this season 567 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals NFL kickoff show when they were 568 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: in attendance and actually heard the shout out, and now 569 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: here on Cardinals cover two, Craig, I am one of 570 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: three girls. Okay, I got a scratch and claw to 571 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: be the favorite. It constantly is changing. I am the 572 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: only one of their three daughters who doesn't live within 573 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: a twenty minute driving radius of them, So I gotta 574 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: do what I gotta do to stand out. Oldest, youngest 575 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: are in the middle. Oh I'm in the middle. I 576 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: don't give up that. I don't give off that middle 577 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: child energy to you. I feel like I do, but 578 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: you're always seeking attention and look at me kind of 579 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: a thing. No, not anymore, No never, of course, not 580 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: by the way, any since this is the bye week, 581 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: any major plans to see the family. The parents maybe 582 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: even earned more brownie points with Mom and Dad. Just 583 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: sleep following Baker's advice. Following traveling to LA and then 584 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: going to Mexico City and then the short week and Thanksgiving, 585 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: my plan is to just sleep. I'm going to relax 586 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: and rejuvenate. Like the players and coaching staff have said, 587 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: what about you, rest, recovery, rejuvenates. There is a lot 588 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: on the DVR that I need to get to, so 589 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything for two three maybe, yeah, two 590 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: or three days, maybe a little football. I'm really going 591 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: to try to disconnect from everything and literally clean out 592 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: the DVR. Good for you, Love that for you, all right, 593 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: and we can reconvene. Remember no Hard Knocks next week. 594 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: We will still do a show next Wednesday, but the 595 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: team will be back a practice or two under their 596 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: belts and then we can start focusing on the new 597 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: England Patriots. Hard Knocks resumes following that Patriots game on Monday, 598 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: December twelve, so episode five will come out on fourteenth. 599 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: Of course, instant reaction here on Cardinals Cover two, as 600 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: well as asy Cardinals dot Com and if you want 601 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: to go back and relive or catch up on past episodes, 602 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: HBO HBO Max are your best best roads to travel 603 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: down to watch what has been going on this entire 604 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: season for the twenty twenty two Arizona Cardinals. And it 605 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: has been a very eventful season to date. Yeah, no 606 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: kidding to say the least. Hopefully it stays quiet this week. Danny, 607 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: that is that is what I'm hoping to cross her fingers. 608 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: All right, we all do that together because that's what 609 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: we do, the chemistry. See, we said at the same time, Jinks, Yes, Jinks, 610 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: good job. See, we're gonna end it on that note, 611 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: because we're gonna end it on a high note. Here 612 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: on Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hunday, proud partner of 613 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive 614 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: producer Joe Malmandro for Danny Serek, I'm Craig Riel Loup. 615 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Scovered two.