WEBVTT - Sting Retirement/Lance Storm In Studio 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:07.120 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:16.440 Live from San Francisco. I'm a sports byline broadcasting network. 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.840 You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with your hosts, 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:22.160 Brian Alvarez and Mike SIMPERVV. 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:25.400 When you're ready, When you're ready. 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:26.760 Let's get it off. 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:33.200 Go and everybody. Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live. 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:35.760 We are here every day Monday through Friday, New Pacific 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:39.920 three Eastern Sunday three Pacific, six Eastern Saturday Mornings with 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:44.080 Jim Beally, ten day Pacific one Eastern Sundays with andrews Arian, 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:51.280 and today with both Mike SIMPERVV and Yes, Lance Storm 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.200 is joining us here today. We'll get with him in 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:57.400 the next segment here. We got a lot to talk 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:59.440 about and we're gonna kick it off with a bang. 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:05.440 Lance also watched the Sting retirement aw paper view this weekend, 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:06.640 so we'll get his thoughts on that. 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:07.440 Well. 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:09.280 We got a lot of news to get into here today. 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:15.240 Yesterday was Raw, Monday Night Raw, and the last two 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:19.479 weeks of Raw. We've got WrestleMania show coming up about 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:21.680 a month away. Is it is quite a while away. 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:26.600 But WrestleMania is two nights, and that means we have 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:31.200 to have what sixteen matches eighteen twenty if you count 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:36.480 pre shows, and right now we have five official matches 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:40.280 for WrestleMania, and the last two weeks of Raw has 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:45.479 been three hours of continuing the build for the same 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:49.640 five matches. Let's get some new matches here, bro, but 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.440 we do have some. We're gonna find out who's challenging 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:57.440 Gunther for the Interconninental title next week on Raw, and 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.200 I'll tell you who I think it's gonna be. It 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:02.480 could be what do I think it's gonna be? 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We're not even gonna even move on to 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:33.080 anything here today, nothing, not even the retirement of the 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:37.920 Great Sting until we talk about Randijord and Austin Theory. 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:43.480 I've been waiting all day for this, So hit me 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:45.760 with it. Hit me baby one more time. 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:50.680 Yeah, I watched the uh suplex spot that you've talked 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:54.760 about on two or three show, and it hanes me 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:58.560 to admit this. I'm on team Olverrez with this thing. 0:06:58.560 --> 0:06:58.920 Thank you. 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:03.560 Brand Orton slipped. I think Theory had no option. He 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:05.880 already had a foot on the top and had his 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.240 head start getting pulled down, so I think he just 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.000 instinciously is like I got a flip or I'm gonna die, 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:15.040 And at the last second Randy realized this dude's going 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:19.520 to flip and overrotate like crazy and die, and Randy 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:23.400 instinctively at the last second stepped forward, pulled his head 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:27.679 down and hit a perfect souplex. So, yes, Randy slipped, 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:30.480 So ultimately it's his fault that it didn't go as well, 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:36.120 but it's also his experience and just absolute presence in 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:37.600 the ring that saved it at the end. 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.160 Oh, I see I see simPRO viv over there shaking 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:41.960 his gimmick pen. 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:48.160 Yes, Simpy, it is a legitimate writing pen. Sir and Lance, 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:53.640 I want to ask you, even though this was not tragic, 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:57.480 it could have been, but what has been in your time? 0:07:58.720 --> 0:07:59.760 What has been the best? 0:07:59.760 --> 0:07:59.920 Say? 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.280 Have you ever seen on a spot that was going 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:07.440 badly where you saw someone really save someone else for me? 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:08.960 Tragic circumstance? 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:15.240 Yeah, there was one recently worded dou oh again, may 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:16.720 not be the most but the one that came to 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:23.600 mind immediately was Logan Paul with Ray when they he 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:28.600 did the lion salt gimmick back and obviously the distance 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:32.880 was wrong and he slid in and and saved the spot. 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.679 Like again, Ray's aware of where he is. Ray wouldn't 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:40.319 have physically died. Oh yeah, it looked like crap and 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:42.319 you know, screwed up the flow of the mast. 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.240 Hold on, Lance, standby for one second, Jared, Apparently there's 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.560 music coming through. Can you kill that? 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:49.520 What song is it? 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:51.880 I don't know, I can't hear it, but the chants like, 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:55.600 what is this music? Okay, go ahead, Lance, Lance's got 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:56.400 his own theme music. 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:57.079 Now I love it. 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.640 As I was saying, like Ray wouldn't have died. He 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.720 would have been able to get his fore arms down 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.520 and saved himself, but it would have completely killed the 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.600 flow of the match. But Logan managed to slide in 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.240 on like one knee and catch the dude and save 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:16.000 the spot. I thought that was especially considering his experience level. 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:17.680 Just great athletic instinct. 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:19.480 And you know, I gotta say one thing about that 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:21.360 as well, because I know a lot of people absolutely 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:25.040 hate Logan Paul, but you know, to the guy's credit. 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.560 You know, when we watched that, at least when I 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.040 watched that, and a lot of other people as well, 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:34.160 they're like, oh my god, Logan saved raised life. You know, 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.640 thank God for Logan Paul. And when he was interviewed 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.480 about it, he was like, listen, I'll take the credit, 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:42.720 but you know, to be honest, I was a little 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:45.280 too far out. So a lot of that was also 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:47.840 my fault, like I got in there because it was 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:51.520 just instinctual. But you know, he admitted that he had 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:54.600 also made a positioning mistake and he did not just 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.160 take full credit for saving the guy's life, even though 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:58.960 everybody else was giving him that credit. 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:04.840 Takes two to tango, and he managed to adjust and 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:06.920 get it done. And same with Randy. It's like he 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.080 slipped and he managed to realize where he was and 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:14.640 adjusted and ended up pulling off a supplex. It probably 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:16.600 ended up getting a better reaction than if he just 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:17.559 done the superplex. 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.080 Now, before we get in everything else, Lance, obviously you 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:24.320 watched the pay per view on Sunday, the retirement of Sting. 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:26.760 I know this because I heard all about one of 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.040 my star ratings. But we don't need to talk about 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.840 that here, Yes we do, an I guess what you 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:33.920 gotta want more? Star rais a fight about well, go 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:37.040 up to uh wrestlingobserver dot com. I used to put 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:40.160 on my subscriber only TV reports they're going up for 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:44.280 all the shows ras up right now did SmackDown, Collision 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:48.200 Dynamite every week and the pay per view, And yes, 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:52.960 I give my own star ratings. Lance took exception to one. 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:54.480 But we don't need to talk about that, do we list? 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:55.600 But anyway, what'd you think of the. 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.960 Show on the whole? I enjoyed it, and I generally 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:04.760 don't watch pay per view shows, but Sting's retirement got 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:09.199 me and intrigued me. I was a Sting fan from 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:13.600 starkad eighty seven the first time I saw him the 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:17.920 six man tag, and I thought he was awesome. I 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.920 was a gigantic Sting Mark. I'm trying to find a 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:25.679 photo a bunch of buddy of mine back when we 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.520 were high school crazy wrestling buddies got together for a 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.880 big wrestling show and dressed up, and I do have 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:35.920 one somewhere back when I actually had normal hair, but 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.920 I managed to try to position it into as much 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.920 of a square flat top as I could spray painted 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:45.199 it white, not spray paint, obviously, it was whatever cosmetic 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:49.480 shops use. Our costume shops used to spray your hair 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.800 white and put on stingface paint. So I do have 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.160 a photo somewhere, I just can't find it of me 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:59.040 as a I guess technically a little Stinger big wrestling mark, 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.679 and then obviously got to meet him and work with 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:04.480 him that one time in WW. I got a ton 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.199 of respect for him, and I wanted to see the end. 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:10.679 And I'm not a fan of a lot of the 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:14.160 haos and hardcore craziness that went on in that match, 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.680 but when they got down the end, and he won. 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.800 I got to admit I got choked up a bit 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:24.000 and got goosebumps and ended up making it for a 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.800 great evening, and I enjoyed it because got a lot 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:27.959 of respect and love for Sting. 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:33.640 Yeah, I mean he's he's one of those rare guys 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.040 and they've been coming out of the woodwork. Nobody's got 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:41.120 anything bad to say about Sting. And as you're well aware, Lance, 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.080 I talked about this yesterday. You know, not only does 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:47.440 nobody have anything bad to say about Sting, but there's 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.280 also people that say all sorts of great things about 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:54.360 Sting publicly, but privately they say even better things that 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:58.640 they didn't even say publicly. So great guy, glad We 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:02.439 wantee him go out on his terms literally exactly. That's 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.640 a cliche, but he went out on his terms. He 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.160 picked everything he did. 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:09.960 The one line that I popped for maybe it's a 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:13.160 bit of a cheap shot, but I laughed at when 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:15.400 I think it was. Tony said, you know, Sting's an 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:19.040 even better man than he is a wrestler. You can't 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:22.120 say that about too many people, And I'm like, one 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.520 might say that Warrior was a better person than a wrestler, 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:26.880 and that's just because both bars are so low. 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.080 One thing for sure is Sting went out a hero 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.000 to wrestling fans. He went out a hero. Even those 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.440 times where he dabbled as a heel being put in 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.360 that position by the main event, Mafia or the nWo. 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.760 It's not like he changed his style. He may have 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:48.120 added an ipoke for comedy here or there, but he 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.440 was always Sting and once he became a babyface in 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.320 nineteen eighty seven, after he turned on Eddie Gilbert and 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:58.160 started that in the UWF, he became the guy that 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.800 wrestling fans could believe in. And he was that all 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:05.120 the way up until that night a couple of days 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:09.160 ago in Greensboro. It's just an amazing, amazing career. 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:11.439 So Lance, what you think of the rest of this 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:12.920 show with the highs and lows. 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:19.280 Highs for me were were definitely Ospray Takeshta. That was 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.720 I think my favorite out of the night. Second, I 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:26.160 would go with Danielson and Eddie Kingston as far as 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.480 a match, obviously, as far as the emotion goes, I 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.200 give it the Sting, But again I'm not a fan 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:35.000 of the well brawl around ring side, we'll go through tables, 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:37.360 we'll go through glass, will do stunts. So those as 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.840 a match, it didn't do much for me until the 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:43.000 end with the ear falls. But those two matches, the 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:49.000 Kingston Danielson and the Takeshta Ospray to Me were the 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:52.600 the top two. The the tag team match, which obviously 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:57.640 was you know, very well received. I prefer the more 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:03.560 traditional FTR classic old school wrestling tag team match where 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:10.120 Moxley is that free spirit, wild fighter guy that doesn't 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:14.200 really follow a traditional format of any kind whatsoever, which 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:19.800 works for him. But I much prefer FTR in a 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.840 different environment. So that match, while good, wasn't as high 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:27.160 up as I would like. I prefer the more traditional 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.920 midnight express style tag team match that FTR is so 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:34.040 great at. Two little nitpicks that bothered me on the show. 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.800 Actually hold your thought right there, we'll get nitpicks after 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.040 the break. Nitpick Observer Live. 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.680 You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:15.840 and Mike semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network. Got 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:16.160 the show. 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.400 Bray Elberez here Wrestling Observer Live, Mike Sember vv Lance 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:23.840 Storm Lance had two nitpicks. Mm hmm, it's here, Lance 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:25.640 got a character, but. 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:26.840 Yeah, no kidding. 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:31.520 I thought it was really dumb when they announced that 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.200 the Continental Crown will be fought under Continental Crown rules 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:40.880 where outside interference isn't allowed. I'm like, and then Tony, 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:42.840 one of the announced think was Tony even said like 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:46.479 in the first match, and I'm like, the outside interference 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:50.240 wasn't allowed in that match they distracted the ref and cheated. 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.800 And it's like, if you could just outlaw outside interference 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.120 by a rule, why wouldn't every match in wrestling do that? 0:16:57.960 --> 0:16:59.720 I just thought that was dumb. 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.800 Well, as I explained to Vinnie, I can make my 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:07.639 own storyline. Here we go. Yeah, because the Tony Kahan 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:15.679 character is a psychopath. That's why he enjoys having madness 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:19.320 and insanity occur to make his job as a storyline 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.080 booker easier. That's why. 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.760 But it wasn't allowed in the first match. They managed 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.879 to distract the ref and cheat. If it was allowed, 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:33.679 then Christian has no heat. Well of course, yes, the 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:35.880 other you're not supposed. 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:39.120 To interfere, but like that, there's a difference. Lance, You're 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.960 not supposed to interfere, but if you can do it 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:43.639 by and the refere you don't see it. It's okay 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.200 this you're not even allowed to be out there. You're 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.440 not even allowed, whether the ref season or not. You can't. 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.440 Well, then they should just well, of course, it's ridiculous. 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.000 Everyone should always be banned from ringside. Everyone. You have 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:56.960 to used to have to manager's license. 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:02.120 That the heat. When someone's you know, tag partner would 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.560 get a manager's license and come to ringside, it's diabolical. 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:08.240 Well, you get one of those outsiders at AEW loves 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.639 the use. You get added Kevin Gates out there with 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.600 a referees license before he beat up somebody. 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:17.679 And the other thing, which just baffled me once I 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:22.120 saw it. It was so cool when Sting's kids came 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:26.760 out in his previous gimmicks. I could not believe that 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:32.240 they'd let Mariah May come out in Tony Storm's previous 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:35.280 gimmick and do the exact same thing that they're doing 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:39.280 in Sting's retirement in a random match in the middle 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:43.080 of the show, like when I first saw when I 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:46.960 saw the again Great American based nineteen ninety Sting on 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.359 the stage, It's like I popped and then it just 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:51.800 flashed my eyes. Like I just saw this like three 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:55.920 matches ago, when the alter ego of Tony Storm came out. 0:18:55.960 --> 0:19:00.159 I just thought that was unbelievable that I got through 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:01.920 the checks and balances. 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:03.399 Well, I think the issue is there are not a 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:04.560 lot of checks and balances. 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:07.080 I think that's the issue right there, because there's a 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:09.840 lot of times where they don't dot i's or cross 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:15.879 t's and you have, you know, two matches that start 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:18.520 back to back outside of the ring, or you have 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:21.480 two finishes back to back that are essentially the same. 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:24.480 I mean that does happen pretty often there. I mean, 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:27.439 it probably happens in on both sides of things, you know, 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.640 way too often. It certainly does in the case of WWE. 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:34.000 But AW, yeah, absolutely that's happens. 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:37.639 I Mean one of the issues is AW doesn't do 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.200 pre show production meetings where they go over everything that's 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:42.800 going on on the show. And I don't know why 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:46.439 they don't. I mean everybody everybody does production meetings. I 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:49.000 even remember when it's not really we didn't have a 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:52.240 production but like and I can't even tell the story 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:54.680 on the air because there's too much profanity. But when 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.240 we used to those ICW shows with Tim Flowers. He 0:19:57.280 --> 0:19:59.960 would have the pre show meeting and everybody would have 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.000 to explain what they were gonna do. And man, you 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:04.560 never heard so much profanities. He shut this down, He 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.359 shut that down. You ain't doing this, that's being done later. 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:11.240 You You guys just don't get it. You know how 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:13.280 many times I heard that one in a much more 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:17.560 profane version. But that would certainly help. Yeah you think so? 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:19.760 I don't know, Lance, here the pro you think? 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:21.040 What do you think? Yeah? 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.639 I think it would help because again, that idea of 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:29.879 having Sting's kids come out in his previous gimmicks was fantastic. 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:34.000 It was a great moment, and just doing it in 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.439 the undercard on the same show, to me was just 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:37.479 mind blowing. 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:40.919 Let me ask you, Lance, for the guys that you 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:44.639 worked for, where, well, in a case like Vince or 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:48.359 or really, I guess in any large company, obviously guys 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:51.760 are working out details of things with the agent that 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.880 is assigned to their match or somebody that they're comfort 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:58.520 comfortable with. Wouldn't the production meeting, I mean, when does 0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:01.520 it happen where you start comparing notes to make sure 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:05.000 that nobody is bigfooting somebody else during the show. 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:08.280 Well, it'd be production meeting would be the start of it, 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:11.959 because all agents are there when they read through the 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:16.639 entirety of the show. So there would be the assumption 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.160 that once you got to the main event and someone 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:21.360 says like, all right, there'll be the sting entrance we got, 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.679 you know, Steve Junior, whatever the other son's name is 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.520 coming out, someone would go, it's like, should we be 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:30.280 doing that in the women's match if that's the main event, 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:35.560 And just somewhere along the line, Now it's possible that 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:37.800 they wanted that to be a surprise whoever came up 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:39.280 with the idea, And oh, I mean, it'd be great 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:42.040 if nobody knows it's just part of his entrance. But 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:44.040 the fact that they were involved in the match, I 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:47.560 would think everyone would know that they'd be in that gear. 0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:53.320 And someone would have kaibashed the early version of Tony Storm. 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:56.960 All right, let's talk about Paul Hayman. He's going into 0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:59.760 the Hall of Fame. I know, Lance, you are delighted. 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:03.760 Very much, so, yes, I'm a big Paul Hayman guy. 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:07.840 I was a big fan of him as a manager 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:11.680 back in the AWA and WCW the Dangerous Alliance to 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:17.200 the original Midnight Express, his arm wrestling feud with Missy 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:20.159 Hyatt and all the other crazy the Tuxedo match with 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:23.639 Jim Cornett, all this crazy stuff he did then, and 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:26.960 then obviously my time in ECW working with him as 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:31.280 a booker. I was a big fan of working with Paul, 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:34.520 and then obviously his run as an advocate as well 0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:38.560 as a creative contributor in WB. It's like, you can 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:40.680 say what you want about the WB Hall of Fame, 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:44.480 but there are certain people that make it real and 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:47.920 give it credibility, like the Bruno, Sam Martinos, the Steve 0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:52.520 Austins and so forth that go in and Paul Hayman's 0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:55.200 like that, Bobby Heenan's in there. He deserved it, and 0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:58.840 Paul Hayman is a very much legit Hall of Famer. 0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:01.480 In my opinion, I think he has to go on 0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:04.600 last because there's nobody on this planet that's following his speech, 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:07.800