1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast one a Stitcher award, I 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: think where the hell least? Welcome back to another edition 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: Hansis and I am joined by room filled with heroes, 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosatha. What's up, boys, 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: I know where the Stitcher award is a previous producer 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: stolen and put it on her fireplace mantel. Yes, that's 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: exactly what happened. Dan, Dan unveiled the story a great 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: one on the old Rich Eisenshow this week. A week 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: ago Friday, I did break that news on the audience 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: that I was like, it's out there. I was like, 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: if that producer is watching right now, um, you know, 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: he or she might be getting a little hot under 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: the collar a little bit. Chances are she Wasn't you 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: know who else is getting a little hot under the 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 1: collar other car companies that aren't hun Day because uh, 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast is driven by the offer 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: mentioned Hyundai. That's right. People might be watching us on 19 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: a stream and if you're not, if you're listening to 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: the audio version, you can catch us Thursday's nine pm 21 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: Eastern six Pacific, where what is it in England? What 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: is that eight hour differences? Seven hour difference from New 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: York City, So you guys figure it out. I think 24 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: i'd be five in the morning in London, perhaps five hours. 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: I could be way off. Also hot under the collar West, 26 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: other people on our softball team, the shield of defending 27 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: Los Angeles County C plus champions, other people, other people 28 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: in the outfield because Greg Rosenthal is preparing for his 29 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: second practice with the team, uh today Thursday. He even 30 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,279 Speaker 1: brought shorts. Really, Yeah, we get to see his legs 31 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: and uh. He's taken things very seriously. Uh and turned 32 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: some heads in the first practice West didn't. He took 33 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: him out twenty minutes to earn a nickname Pepper Spray 34 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: braying the ball all over the field. Yeah, that's one 35 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: thing we'll never hear with Greg. At the plate, Greg 36 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: was straying the ball. Just it's just like Pepper Spray, 37 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: former former tennis player, high school tennis players. That correct, 38 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: That would be correct. I mean you you've told me 39 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: as a as a manager, Dan, it's good to you know, 40 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: under promise over deliver. So I don't want to, you know, 41 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: like your Yankees this year. I don't want to let 42 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: you know, too much, too much pressure. We're just trying 43 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: to be a role player, right, like the baby Bombers 44 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: are getting a little much heat. But I expect the 45 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: batting title from him. You win championships by having a 46 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: core group of people who care about each other, put 47 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: the team first. And Greg, what I like betterman most 48 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: is his attitude all along. He said, Look, I'm just 49 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: trying to fit in and play my role. Look, I 50 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: know that fly balls. You don't want men who hit 51 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: fly balls and softball especially, you want groundballs and line 52 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: drives and pep spray is all about groundballs. Run Mark, 53 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: how about some of Greg's social faux pause that he's 54 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: known for. Do you think that could leave just some issues? 55 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: It sounds like it's not according to West's scouting report 56 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: about having a good attitude. What are these social faux pads? 57 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: This is the first time hearing of him, Although my 58 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: wife did tell me much. She's like, no one ever 59 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: knows that you're joking, So I guess that's but that's 60 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: on an issue, and you're not typically telling jokes while 61 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: you're up at the plate. You know, I just gotta 62 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: hit the ball, that's all you're gonna do. There's a 63 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: lot of joke telling in softball. Well hold off on that. Maybe, yeah, 64 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: just you knows to the grindstone and just hit those 65 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: line drives. Pepper Spray. Welcome to you Around the NFL 66 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: podcast later in the show, because you know the we're 67 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: very excited, uh, you know, with a hun day situation. 68 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: But we need to square things away with our previous sponsor, 69 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: Mr Flame uh in his economics class in the Hague, Netherlands. 70 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: So we will get Mr f on the phone at 71 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: the conclusion of today's show just to see if everything's okay. 72 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he could be a powder kick. He can 73 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: get on the line and uh mother f us all 74 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: through the night and hang up. That could happen. You 75 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: would have absolute reason to to respond that way. And 76 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: he's notably anti car like Spikes, doesn't like cars him 77 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: a little extra that he's getting he's in the Hague, 78 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: the Netherlands. We we are still convinced that he maybe 79 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: committed some sort of minor to major crime in the 80 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: United States and is essentially on the run. Maybe there 81 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: is a temper there. We don't know. We've never ruled 82 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: that out. And Casablanca, like a lot of villains and 83 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: criminals that disappear from the States. And there's one thing 84 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: to remember, Uh, everybody, everyone drink by the way, if 85 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: you're if you're playing West makes a Casablanca. That's definitely 86 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: the hat trick for two thou seventeen. Uh. One thing 87 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: for everyone to keep in mind. And this this is 88 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: a sports podcast, but occasionally touches on real life things 89 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: like we're talking about earlier home team, but how to 90 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: treat your friends and family. Uh, here's another thing. We 91 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: all wear masks. So Mr F seems like the nicest 92 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: guy in the world. We don't know how he's going 93 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: to react to this. We might see the true Mr 94 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: F today. It's a good point. Do you mean like 95 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: a metaphorical mask, not one like made out of other 96 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: people's skin or anything. Well, yeah, that could happen too, 97 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: but this one's mostly metaphorical mask. Today's show we will Uh, 98 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: everybody's getting sick of the off season already? God? What 99 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: well the yeah, it's it's by literal title only it's 100 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: the off season. But you know, when does football start? 101 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: We're not even close. We are barely into it. Yeah, 102 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: but what we're gonna do? There are plenty of storylines 103 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: out there. Uh, narrow West. You don't like the word narrative, 104 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: but I did some homework on on the word narrative. Okay, good, good, 105 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: We'll get to that. But just storylines that are percolating 106 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: around the league the way, because what happens is and 107 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: we've been through this rigamarole so many times now, having 108 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: done this show for four years, and Mark and I 109 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: have been here since we are in our teens, I 110 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: feel like, uh that by the time you get to 111 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: the end of August, everybody knows everything and exactly how 112 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: the season is going to turn out, and and then 113 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: everybody has proven to be an idiot most of the time. 114 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: These storylines are starting to like coagulate now, calcify, calcify. 115 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: So we'll see if we'll buy, we'll sell or hold 116 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: on some of these popular narrative slash storylines out there. Uh. 117 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: And we will also do a little housekeeping. I'll leave 118 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: it at that, a little internal housekeeping. But before we 119 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: do that, we'll say, hi to sit behind the glass, said, 120 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: do you have the camera that shows you behind the glass? 121 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: I look at that there? Look can you look at 122 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: the camera? Give all the fans there? She is there. 123 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: She is just like tripled our our streaming audience from 124 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: three to nine right there. This is going to be great. 125 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: We were all under an oath with ourselves that because 126 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: people sometimes, oh, we're doing a video podcast and then 127 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: it's a horrible show. It's like, hey, check this out, 128 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: guys on the screen, and then it's like everyone listening's like, 129 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: you guys have lost that. We have made a promise 130 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: to each other in the audience that this will not 131 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: be that type of video show. But we could also 132 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: tease if you want to see behind the glass and see, uh, 133 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: new Money at work. We got the camera showing her again, 134 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: look at that working here. Hit a drop? Any drops? 135 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: Show people how you had a drops? Yeah, Like that's 136 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: how the magic is made. I have a little news 137 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: about new Money came into the studio. Well, moneys on it. 138 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: You see new Money if you want me to tell 139 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: about this. I came into the studio yesterday a little 140 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: bit early and there were a crowd of people listening 141 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: to a recording back there, and I don't this. You 142 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: must have sang this professionally at some point, belting out 143 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: a legit. I guess it was a Disney song from 144 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: beginning to end, and it was amazing and to the 145 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: point where it sounds like a professional production. She is 146 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: a legit singer for real. It's not just a little 147 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: bits that she does for our song. That's not exactly 148 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: how I remember this story. I was in a podcast 149 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: studio and I sing a song for the Dave Damashek 150 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: program to introduce Matt Harmon, and the producer of said 151 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: show played it and mortified me in front of strangers 152 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: that I had never met before. It sounds like a 153 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: Disney song, but oh yes it was. It was Matt 154 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: Harmon's introduction song that we said was written the story 155 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,119 Speaker 1: and MVP true story story is very little in common 156 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: with Mark's version of that. When I came in here, 157 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: there were a crowd of people surrounding Sydney listening to 158 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: a song that Sydney sang that checks out entirely. This 159 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: is reference made. It's harder to be Mark. It's harder 160 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: to be an a t N media insider than you thought, 161 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: isn't it. I got to get the story you when 162 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: you begin, when you begin to be one, tell me 163 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: how that goes. I go triple source, I triple source. 164 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: That's what you don't. I always do. And that's when 165 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: I go with a story that's all right, unsolicited. I'm 166 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: probably done speaking to you for the next week or two. 167 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's listen news that. Don't you welve me 168 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: your mouth a little bit of Sherman there? Yeah, alright, 169 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: let's do and new and we'll start with Richard Sherman 170 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: and the news all around. You know, we had our 171 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: ROMO podcast on Wednesday, so we kind of we wanted 172 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: to push this aside and give it the time and 173 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: deserve because Richard Sherman. Of course, UH is in the news, 174 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: because the Seahawks are open about their potential desire to 175 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: move the all pro corner, and this was something that 176 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: had been floating out there for weeks west even when 177 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: we did our you're the GM you brought it up 178 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: as an option, UH possibly, and then it goes next 179 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: level because Seahawks General manager John Schneider goes on K 180 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: I R O A M on Seattle on Wednesday and 181 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: confirmed everything you're hearing is legit. You know, I think 182 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: we're a very unique organization that regard. We have a 183 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: great relationship with UH, with a lot of our players, 184 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: there's very much an openness. What you've seen um lately 185 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: and the news is real. Um, that's on both sides. 186 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: It's just open communication. And then he made it clear 187 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 1: that Sherman was not in the dark on this with 188 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: the organization. He knows what's going on. We know what's 189 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: going on. I don't know if anything would ever happen, 190 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: But like I tell people all the time, we're ninety 191 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: eight percent of the deals that we're involved with, we 192 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: don't we don't follow through with. But at least we've 193 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: opened that door, gone down, gone down the road, and 194 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: and and seeing what's what's what's what's behind you know, 195 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: door Ay or Dorb, you know, Greg your thoughts. Well, 196 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: he can say that they're an open organization. The reality 197 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: is talking about this so publicly with a guy who 198 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: has been a cornerstone of your franchise is not normal. 199 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: It's not something they've done before. And they are consider 200 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: read him trading him. I believe, you know, for a 201 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: few reasons. Number One, he didn't play as well last 202 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: year as he's played in the past. Still very good cornerback, 203 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: but maybe not maybe not a first team All Pro, 204 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: but not you know, as like he was a few 205 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: years back. Not a bad quarterback. Uh too. I think 206 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to turn over this roster at some point. 207 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: It's got a great core that's been together for so long, 208 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: but maybe they're thinking, Okay, how do we start getting younger. 209 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: But most importantly, he's been a pain, and I think 210 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: his relationship with Pete Carroll has been well documented, been 211 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: up and down. Pete Carroll said it, you know, he 212 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: said at the owners meeting that that it was a 213 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: tough year for Sherman and he never really got over it. 214 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: He never got past it. So I think I think 215 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: they're sending there either sending him a message which I 216 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: think will be good for them, or they really will 217 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: trade him if a team steps up. I think they 218 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: have a chance to. I mean there there are going 219 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,599 Speaker 1: to be teams that say we're willing to take on 220 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: the external headache and whatever after you have to deal 221 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: whenever there are players that are potential problem cases. The 222 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: only way we hear about it is if it's totally immense, 223 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: or at some point someone gets arrested and we find 224 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: out something official. A lot of players on rosters inside 225 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 1: the building create all sorts of drama that will never 226 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: hear about and you have to wonder, just like in 227 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: your own life, if you hit a boiling point with 228 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: someone a relationship, no matter how good it was, no 229 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: matter how much you had from it, you cut ties. 230 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: And maybe the Seahawks that got to that point that yes, 231 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: it's not just his playing ability it's declined some, but 232 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: the whole Richard Sherman experience. We're willing to shop that 233 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: to someone else at this point. It's uh so unusual 234 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: for a general manager to be this honest that people 235 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: have kind of glossed over, how I guess unbelievable it 236 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: is that a Super Bowl contender is willing to play 237 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 1: the trade one of its best players while in a 238 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl window, and he has come out. He told 239 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: Albert Brewer of the mm QB, very little chance it happens. 240 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a little chance it happened. Well, 241 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: the unheard of, I mean, for we've been talking, this 242 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: has been something has popped up in the offseason West 243 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: where you talked about how much responsibility front officer coach 244 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: has to be honest with the media, And it was 245 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: striking to me that he would come out because this 246 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: is not just any other player. This is a super 247 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,599 Speaker 1: Bowl champion. This is an all pro. This is the 248 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: heart and soul of that of that team. Really, he's 249 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: like the face of the team if you're besides Russell Wilson. 250 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: Maybe it's not entirely unheard of, though, because we constantly 251 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: praised the Patriots for getting rid of players before they decline. 252 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: Richard Seymour was traded at a time when he was 253 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: still a very valuable player, and that turned heads. They 254 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: traded Jamie Collins last year. The Patriots now roundly praised 255 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: when they do that, and the Seahawks they may be 256 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: doing something similar. Who what's Who's gonna scout Richard Sherman 257 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: better than the Seahawks. They know where he's at in 258 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: his career as a person and a player. It's a 259 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: great point, and you think why did the Patriots trade 260 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: those players? Usually it's this money. Sometimes it's a little 261 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: bit they're getting bigger than the team, and Richard Sherman, 262 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: I think encompasses that that he did some things in 263 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: terms of talking about calling and yelling on the sideline 264 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: where he's becoming a little bigger than the team the media, 265 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: where he's threatened to have a guy fired to run 266 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: out of the business. That's not that's not a good 267 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: look for an organization. Yeah. So when his older brothers says, hey, 268 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: the Seahawks just don't want the Seahawks just want to 269 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: control him. Of course they do. Of course they don't 270 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: want a cornerback telling a writer that he's gonna take 271 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: his job. But I I thought his brother Branton, who, 272 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: according to Ian Rappaport NFL Network Inside or his report 273 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: on this is very close and and helps really run 274 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, Sherman's life and career, that he thought it 275 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: was positive to give Richard Sherman and a little bit 276 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: of a chip on his shoulder that maybe he was 277 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: implying that Richard Sherman could use right about now, and 278 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: he was saying, maybe this is good for the team 279 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: to He essentially was saying, this is maybe a good 280 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: idea for the team to try to rain him in 281 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: a little bit. Richard Sherman's that kind of player that 282 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: would play better with a chip on his shoulder. Moving on, gentlemen, 283 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson still doesn't have a job. What's up with that? 284 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: Because he went that's our new segment that he visited, 285 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: of course with the Patriots earlier this week, no offer 286 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: came out of that meeting. Seahawks the same thing, and 287 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: they they signed Eddie Lacey instead. Now he plans to 288 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: meet with the New Orleans set in New Orleans, says 289 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: next week. According to NFL Networks, Heath Evan speaking of 290 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: insiders via source informed of the team's plans. Uh, this 291 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: is his third visit in free agency West? Is this 292 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: a fit? Ap and no law? Well, you will hear 293 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: a rap sheet tell you that's a fit. You'll hear 294 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: Charlie Castle and other people say it's a fit. I 295 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: don't see it. They already have mark Ingram as a 296 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: power back, and mark Ingram is acceptable in the passing game. 297 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: He's not an asset in the passing game like a 298 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: Darren Sprowls or a Reggie Bush out there running routes 299 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: gotten better though, sure, but he's still a running back. 300 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: Nobody would confuse him with a guy who can play 301 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: the slot or line up out wide. A Jan Peterson 302 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: is not a good fit for the Saints. He's a 303 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: net minus in the passing game, not a good pass protector. Uh. 304 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: Nobody would. Nobody would watch Adrians Peterson catch a pass 305 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: take a minute to round his body into shape and 306 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: then start running and say we need that in New Orleans. 307 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: To me, I don't see it as a fit. Was 308 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: it Larry Holder that came on up to the minute 309 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: a few minutes ago that basically said, well, look at 310 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: the Saints have an opening for a number two back. 311 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a fit either. You already have 312 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: someone that can give you a lot of what Adrian 313 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: Peterson has, and I think it's Mike Gara. Folo made 314 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: a good point later on in that show that hey, 315 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: his market value isn't what he thought it would be, 316 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: and be his other idea was I'll just latch onto 317 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: a super Bowl team if if it's it's not the 318 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: money first, and we'll just ride in and get a 319 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: ring and there will be a perfect final chapter of 320 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: the Adrian Peterson saga. Well, you don't necessarily get a 321 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: super Bowl team that wants you. Is he better off 322 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: now that this happens with the quarterbacks? We've heard Jay 323 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: Cutler that's been floating around. If he is not, if 324 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: he's now choosing to play with a perennial seven and 325 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: nine pins team, potentially in the best case scenarios, maybe 326 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: their number two guy. Why wouldn't he just stay in 327 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: shape and and realize he's not gonna get paid and 328 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: and it's not a happy thing, but someone will get 329 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: hurt in backfields. Many people will get hurt in backfields 330 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: and signed with a contender in September October? Is that 331 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: such a crazy thought for this guy? Because the market 332 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: right now is frankly like I would think a little 333 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: bit embarrassing to him. This is a legendary player. I 334 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: don't think it's a crazy thought. And from everything we've heard, 335 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: he's in no rush to sign. He wants to make 336 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: sure the fit is perfect and meets all of his criteria. 337 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: That hasn't happened yet, and the report from Serious x 338 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: Sam last week was that he is not yet turned 339 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: down an offer. He also does not get paid in 340 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: camp or most of most of it, or any of 341 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: the preseason. So it's not someone that you need in 342 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: your building to mesh with from April on or something 343 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: he could He could be. He's motivated as a football player, 344 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: There's no question there. But yeah, I think that makes 345 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 1: sense to wait until you get the offer you want. Well, 346 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: at this point, it sounds like he'll be waiting until 347 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: after the draft, which means a lot of running back 348 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: slots are gonna get filled. Maybe this New Orleans situation 349 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: is kind of like people thought in New England, doing 350 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: a bit of a solid for his agent and doing 351 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: some due diligence. It does seem like something the Saints 352 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: would do though, even though it doesn't make sense on paper, 353 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: I could just see Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis just 354 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: kind of decided we want Adrian Peterson, like, like, this 355 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: sounds great. There's a there's a ten percent chance he 356 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: could just be like the best running back in the 357 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: league or one of them, and let's just add him. 358 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: See what happened to distract them from all the other 359 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: issues on that team. That fan base can talk about 360 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson on a Saints team that has myriad issues, 361 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: it's ton of junk going on. Please moving on. So 362 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: Tony Romo goes from uh, the gridiron, that's what they 363 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: call football field. Now do we know why West will 364 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: tell us as a historian of the game, it's a 365 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: grid it's laid out about the iron. I don't know 366 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: about that, but it is a grid alright, okayn Etomology 367 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: podcast with West as the host. Anyway, So Tony Romo 368 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: leaves the gridiron for the broadcast booth, and a lot 369 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: of people thought I was one of them, thought that 370 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: this was the path that Peyton Manning was going to 371 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: take because he always I could always picture I thought 372 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: about this many many times, me as a fifty seven 373 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: year old dad with my son back from college and 374 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: we're watching the old Thanksgiving game and there's old Peyton 375 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: Manning with a big old forehead breaking down, chopping up 376 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: the game. Thought thought about it all the time, all 377 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: the time. This stuff went through my head all the time. 378 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: My boy and Peyton Manning's forehead at seventy years old. 379 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: Jack and Harrison, I mean, they'd be up there at 380 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: that point. Yeah, I mean listen, in this scenario, they're 381 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: they're young enough from college or something. They're young, they're premed, 382 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: they're interviewing you on their podcast. What's happening anyway. So 383 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: but that didn't work out because Peyton Manning apparently he 384 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: doesn't want to do that. He doesn't want to go 385 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: in the booth and be an excellent color commentator. He 386 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: wants to take the John Elway path. Interesting, John oh 387 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: Rand well not, I believe it's or end or end 388 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: of the Sport of the Sports Business journal reported that 389 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: Manning won't be joining Romo on these ranks. Here's a 390 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: quote from o Rand. I haven't actually talked to Peyton 391 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: about It's quite a qualifier about this. But people who 392 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: are closed the listen it is. It's like my report 393 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: from Sydney's back office singing scenario. Last. This is a 394 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: great This is a great early April post to write 395 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: because it's an interesting storyline. I call it justifying your 396 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: existing on planet Earth. That's what kind of storyline is. 397 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: But when the quote starts, I haven't actually talked to 398 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: Peyton about this. What are you gonna do? But people 399 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: who are close to him say he has no interest 400 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: in being a sports broadcaster. He has little interest in 401 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: traveling every Sunday. He has little interest in going into 402 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: work every Sunday to do a studio show. Uh. He 403 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: wants that elway path, which of course is player. And 404 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: then getting into football, I think always started in what 405 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: the a f L and then worked his way into 406 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: Denver many years in business too, Yes, and then became 407 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: a top executive with the Broncos. Wait a minute, doesn't 408 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: want to work on Sundays, doesn't want to travel does 409 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: with the the Elway role is about fifty times more work, 410 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: more time consuming, more stressful than most broadcast teams. Maybe 411 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: maybe it was I don't want to do that to 412 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: go into studio show and you know, say two sentences 413 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: of you know, finalities with which he did with Tony. Hey, 414 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm just saying that may not make sense, 415 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: but when you're ready to really dive back into, like 416 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: dedicate your life to the sport, that seems like it 417 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: would make sense that that would appeal more to Peyton 418 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: man being some honk this news did Dan has disparaged 419 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: in many ways. Wow is music to my ears. I 420 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: think Peyton Manning would have been a brutal broadcaster. I 421 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: don't find him to be a funny human being in 422 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: any way, shape or form, and I think I'd like 423 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: to see him go be a GM somewhere. Holy Wow, 424 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: he's not gonna be doing anything because West just murdered him. 425 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: Great quarterback and can be a good business man. I 426 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: just don't see him as a guy I want to 427 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: hear from in the broadcast. Your instincts are all wrong 428 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: on this West, because he was if you ask people 429 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: around the league, who is like the funniest guy at 430 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl game speeches. That's who I want to 431 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: go to for comedy. People around a football comedy, but 432 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: just somebody we're talking. We're talking Levity and a loose 433 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: a loose guy but also knows the game. Who knows 434 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: the game better than Payton. We're all missing out, including 435 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: me and my boys as teenagers. Everything would be scripted. 436 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: You'd only get safe answers and safe analysis. You'll never 437 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: forget the time that old old Peyton ordered all those 438 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: drinks to that rookie's room. I'll tell you football writer's thought. 439 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: He was hilarious. Uh uh, Peyton, don't listen to any 440 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: of this. I don't think you have any conflicts there. Uh. Finally, 441 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: Amazon Prime will live stream Thursday night football. After a 442 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: brief romance with Twitter, in the league's Thursday night primetime 443 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: games are moving to Amazon Prime in the league announced 444 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: on Wednesday the site in the league have agreed to 445 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: partner on a deal for the rights to live stream 446 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: ten Thursday night football games. Was first reported by The 447 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal. And I think the thing that really 448 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: jumps out here is the money, which I'm not seeing 449 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: in this nfl dot Com post, but it was five 450 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: times more than what Twitter offered last year. What Twitter 451 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: got it for last year. I think when when I 452 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: hear people say that the TV ratings are down, who cares? 453 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: This is the future and there will be a time 454 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: where the NFL is getting more money from streaming services 455 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: than from networks. Ye think about Also, Thursday Night Football 456 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: a reputation could not be worse than it is right 457 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: out that it has. It has the stake on it 458 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: for being bad football that nobody wants to play and 459 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: everybody's tired and hurt, and they're still able to have 460 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: the leverage to get this type of dal for these games. 461 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: And it was the number two show in all of 462 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: television or it was either two or three. Sunday Night 463 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: Football was one and Thursday Night Football was two or three. 464 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: So maybe its reputation among some football fans for the 465 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: quality play isn't great, but it's hugely successful. Right we're 466 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: comparing Thursday Night Football to other primetime football packages, So yes, 467 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: on that front, I think it's a test ground for 468 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: much larger operations like this from Amazon from Twitter potentially, 469 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: remember growing up when they when Sunday Ticket first came 470 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: out and was only available at bars and restaurants. It 471 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: wasn't even available initially at your home. But I always thought, 472 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: wouldn't it be great if you had a team from 473 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: out of town where you could just stream, You could 474 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: buy a package of just your your team. You don't 475 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: need to worry about the whole rest of the league, 476 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: and then the whole league. They're getting smart about this. 477 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 1: They're gonna start to break this up and offer fans 478 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: something that they cannot get right now. It has to 479 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: keep being more more fan based, more fan focus, because 480 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: it's so easy. They talked about it, even with what 481 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: they want to shorten the games in the commercial because 482 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: if you give the average younger viewer an extra thirty 483 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: to sixties seconds to click onto their phone and get 484 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: interested in something else, they're gone. So you've got to 485 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: keep getting smarter, and this is another way of doing it. 486 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: New platforms, new new vistas. That's what's happening in the news. 487 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: It was good platforms. You end on new platforms, new vistas. 488 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: There's nowhere else to take it. You know, well, if 489 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: you're watching this on NFL dot com, we want you 490 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: to not click off, but we would accept it if 491 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: you did, you know the Sports Business Journal, you know 492 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: with that the sourcing that was used by the Sports 493 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: Business breaking news. He's done a great job for years 494 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: and years. John Arroland, Yes, don't all NFL insiders quote 495 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: or site sources close to the situation are close to 496 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: the player. I'm just breaking some balls over here. Wait, 497 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: I thought you were. You're not on the home team. Well, 498 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: John around is not on my team taking shots at 499 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: the writer. He does a nice job. See that was 500 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: your misunderstanding. That was a good piece to write, but 501 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: it does speak to we could all use a little 502 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: Peyton manning updating all that, you know. I love it. 503 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: Dana's on an island trying to wait for about to 504 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: come by and pick him up. It's not happening. I'm 505 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: in and uh and Peyton, I miss you, Peyton, I do. 506 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: I thought he'd be in the booth by now, and 507 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: that that wit and levity and great selts of humor 508 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: would have been on display. I had my fill. Yeah, 509 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: he was, you know what a funny guy. He was 510 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: on a cults broadcast last year or two and he 511 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: was one of those guys in the booth and this 512 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: would change. But he would just get in the middle 513 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: of like a three minute long story, and you know, 514 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: there's a football game going on in front of him, 515 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: and you can just tell the play by Plague kind 516 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: of wants to cut in and like, hey, there's a 517 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: twenty yard game here, and you're talking about, you know, 518 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: shooting hunt. You know, you mean Peyton Manny wants to 519 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: be in control of the football game, talking about duck 520 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: hunting down in the Bayou or something. I don't know's 521 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: you're mixing it up with Duck Dynasty. All right, let's 522 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: move on and let's circle back now, Uh to one 523 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: of our favorite games that we played before tent Pole 524 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: moments of the NFL season. Uh, go get my lunch. Yeah, bozos, 525 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: let's see how we did. It's quite a graphic. Why 526 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: is what you were breaking the rule we're not going 527 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: to talk about what's in the studio if you can't hear, 528 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: if you can't know what we're doing on the audio. 529 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: But for some reason, the go in the graphic is 530 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: West's head tweet this out. Oh, I guess because I'm bald, 531 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: I look more like an Oh than you. Well, yeah, 532 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: West looks most like a plate of the four of Us. 533 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: Shouldn't you at least had your mouth open though, so 534 00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: you could have the oh with the circle in the middle. 535 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: I think we weren't gonna do this down apologies audio audience. 536 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: Maybe you were in this graphic west in that way 537 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: because you did have a rough free agency period, did did? 538 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: So let's go through it and stop doing that. Greg, 539 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: you're always looking on my monitor. Just wait, everybody, this 540 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: is a free and public website. I can go. I 541 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: can put it up on your own save some time. 542 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: I don't like when I love that pet peeve of 543 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: dance because it's happened probably this all the time, and 544 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: it's like sometimes he he willfully tries to like ruin 545 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: like a surprise by seeing what it is first, and 546 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: it's like, you're over here, will full surprise Ruiner. All right, Chris, 547 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: you all right? Do we wanna how do we want 548 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: to do this? Said? Should we flash the standings just 549 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: for the people watching? He's aren't even accurate? Al Right, 550 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: here we go, Greg, just calm down, goodness gracious, Oh wow, 551 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: I got all rights? He went to and seven. Uh, 552 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: And let's let's go through it. Most guaranteed money. You 553 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: had a j booie and that did not work out. 554 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: I think Stepan Gilmore was the winner. Is that correct? Greg? 555 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: He was, but I haven't gotten my sandwiches for it. Okay, 556 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: we're worked through it. We'll work through it. Stephane Gilmore. 557 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: It didn't get the most games. Someone came very very close. Correct, 558 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 1: there was someone else out there. Uh, that was right. 559 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: I think Gilmore got what like forty one millions? Someone 560 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: late in the game. You're right, I'm trying. Oh was it? 561 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: Was it a defensive lineman? I believe, Well, this is 562 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: Williams's great, great podcast. It was. It was Brandy Williams. 563 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: I think I got a lot. He was helping that 564 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: in the world. You're right. I think you're right. All right? 565 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: So anyway, Uh, A j did not get it. Next 566 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: up West, you had Calais Campbell will sign with the Broncos. 567 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: By the way, all of us took you out, Connor, 568 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: Dan Gregg and Mark by the way, Sydney I was 569 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: not here. Remember Sydney did everything for me. Yes, and 570 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: we will get to that had almost happened. Uh, Clais 571 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: Campbell went, isn't it? Denver? And I thought I had it. 572 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: You should have had Calias Campbell will visit the Broncos 573 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: that would have I don't know if it had the 574 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: same Casher, the Saints won't get first round value for 575 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks, Mark Sydney and your Steed took West on 576 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 1: that and that was part of the hook for Mark here. 577 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: Yes he maybe he was the right word there. Um Uh, 578 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: Sydney took everything for Mark. I asked her to. So 579 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: she was not a great strategy and we'll see how 580 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: it played out. But in this case it did work 581 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: out because you've got a sandwich there, and then the 582 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: team that signs Adrian Peterson, you have the Raiders and 583 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: that's the only thing really with standing here. And uh, 584 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: we don't know what's gonna happen, but probably won't be 585 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: the Raiders, but that one holds for now. Two and 586 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: seven up next, Mark Sessler, Mark Sessler, what do we 587 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: have said? Because I think the board you sent me 588 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: said seven and four, Marco seven and four, seven and 589 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: four from our uh, we'll start with for Mark, uh, 590 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: seven and four. Terrell Prior, Kevin Zeitler and Donte high 591 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: Tower will change teams but stay in their respective divisions. 592 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: Always trick you with these when he gets hyper specific. 593 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: That was a ridiculous job by me. Well one of 594 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: the names, that is true. Kevin Zeitler did right, and 595 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: the Jets went hard after High Tower, but that didn't 596 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: work out. But it did get some couple last three 597 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: and there lost three sandwiches. Browns. Do not resign, Terrell Prior. 598 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: That's a win. That's a win. Nice job, Mark Didney, 599 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: thanks for the sound effect. Yeah, that's a and I 600 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: I didn't take you up on the Pconnor and West 601 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: did uh? So you get two sandwiches there? Uh teams 602 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: that team that signs Adrian Peterson also had the Raiders, 603 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: and then this one is gonna probably not happen, but 604 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: who knows most guaranteed money Jimmy Garoppolo after a sign 605 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: and trade. That's not over yet. O yet, that makes sense. 606 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: That's why I have not collected on Stefan Gilmore. Your 607 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: four sandwiches, we also want to happen. No one took 608 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: me up on that apparently, so that's all we all 609 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: have to put it out there has to happen by 610 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: the draft, I believe up next Greg Rose. So Mark, 611 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: it came out well for you going the strategy of 612 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: throwing yours out there. But then being hyper aggressive and 613 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: taking wagers. Yes, it did. Is that something you planned 614 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: to do in the future. Well, I'll just I probably 615 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: won't attend the Sandwich episodes and just have Sydney do 616 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: it for me. Well worked last time, alright. Next up 617 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,959 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, who went five according to the board here 618 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: four and four and uh, let's see what Greg has. 619 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: Stephan Gilmour gets more money than a j booyers. But 620 00:32:52,440 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: that's right. See it marks it wrong online? Oh Nikki, yep, 621 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: flip those standings around. We got a new leader. Calm down, Greg, 622 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: let's calm down there. Well you're not undefeated like someone 623 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: else saying overall standings. Wow. Uh yeah, but Gilmore got 624 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: more money right because we we kind of we said 625 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: it was guaranteed money. Was kind of what we came 626 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: down on. Right, Could we give us sad you know, 627 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: trombone to Sydney right about now? Greg, the team that 628 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: signs Adrian Peterson, Well he they've already announced he's not. 629 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: So you're actually not being credited with an l on 630 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: This should get a lot. I guess you never know though, 631 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: in a big, big, crazy world, a huge elm let's 632 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: face it. Hey, let's faces a l most guaranteed money 633 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: stuff on Gilmore that looks like a win. We'll see 634 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: and then the Bear will see. Though the Bears spend 635 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: the most money in free agency. Uh, that's not gonna 636 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: be right. That's not that they haven't given me the 637 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: four els yet, but they I'm gonna get them four els, 638 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: four ls. That's a tough who has spent the most money. 639 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: You know, even out though Gilmore will be four wins. Well, 640 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: I mean it's got to be. If it's not the Niners, 641 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: it could be potentially the Rams had some crazy yeah, 642 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: uh stood out. We'll have to get research to help 643 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: us out there. Bill signed to fullbacks. That was pricy, 644 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: a lot of fullbacks. Let's move on to the old 645 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: Zeuser who started out here with Brandon Marshall signs with 646 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: the Giants and that was the big score for me. 647 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: If you hit one on those, you're in good shape 648 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: for the entire round. And I got uh the old 649 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: Grand Slam Sangwich. As we talked about, I had a 650 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: p the Raiders. That's probably not gonna happen, but we 651 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: don't know yet. Most guaranteed money, I had this one 652 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: wrong dots a high tower. He did not stay on 653 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: the market perhaps is uh uh? He stayed on the 654 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: market longer than I realized. I thought he would be 655 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: a higher hotter property, but he wasn't. And then I 656 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: had Tony Romo signs with the Broncos and that that's 657 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: gonna cost me. I think Nick Fortier maybe on vacation 658 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: because some of these nets. He does a wonderful job 659 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: with this. But as you listed is six and up. Actually, 660 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: I think I'm six and four actually, And I think, 661 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: uh uh, Nick is a bad bad day for Nick 662 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: because he does such a good job at the board. 663 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: But how was he to know that we were going 664 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: to check in on the second Maybe we could have 665 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: given the heads up. You know, we don't tell Mr 666 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: f what's happening in his life. We don't tell Nick. 667 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: By the way, they're both getting paid the same amount 668 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 1: of money by us, which is zero. Moving on Connor 669 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: or his first full round would go get my lunch. Uh, 670 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: let's see what we got here. Most guaranteed money a 671 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,760 Speaker 1: j Booyer. That's wrong team that signs Andrean Peterson the Bucks. 672 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. Mike Lennon will not go 673 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: to a team and trenched as a starter that's a loss. 674 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: Reagan Mark both get sandwiches there, and Darrell Darrell Rivas 675 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: signs a multi year contract that is still hanging in 676 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: the air. Uh, Revas doesn't have a ups so we'll 677 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: see what happens there. And then finally, my brother Kevin 678 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: Danger hands Is got into the mix said that Tony 679 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: Romo would play for the Bengals Sydney. Why did you 680 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: not put me on that prop? That's an excellent question, 681 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: she she disobeyed my order. Yeah, it was a different day. 682 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: It was different. Yeah, I think it was. We tried 683 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: to get it. You're right, he was here, and I 684 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: think I actually agreed that he probably would go to 685 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: the Bengals. I explain it. I think we all tried to, 686 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: you know, just steal sandwiches from him, and he wouldn't 687 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: allow it. Only I'll never see that sandwich, I can 688 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: guarantee you. Uh. And now let's let's take a look 689 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: at the overall standings right now, as where where do 690 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: we stand right now? It's just mostly just to stick 691 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: it to Greg a little bit. Well, but we just 692 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: established that it's totally wrong. All right, show show the 693 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: standings from that round, which are accurate, not not four 694 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: tiers Sydneys Are these are updated? Yeah, no, Sydneys as 695 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: in totally accurate. Let's say Sydney show the standing so 696 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 1: you have there we go, This is accurate, Mark seven 697 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: and four. I was six and four, Greg, five hundred, 698 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: Connor two and four, West two and seven. Those are 699 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: those are accurate? Right? No, they're not. At least have 700 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 1: at least more than that. That doesn't matter. It doesn't 701 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: matter that checks out for me making it making a 702 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: bad podcast. Um, all right, there are no repercussions anymore 703 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: for losing since we stopped uh ordering sandwiches. But I 704 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: think I think we should back. It's like your Blake 705 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: Bortles and you can spend the whole off season doing 706 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: whatever you want and there's no repercussion for ruining the jag. 707 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: This entire segment is really fitting in well with this 708 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: post truth world we're living in, Like the standings are 709 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: basically just made up. Struggling. So he's out on the segment. 710 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: This is classic Greg, You are not in first place. 711 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: You know that, though right you're willing to admit. He's 712 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: not going to admit that he can't do it. He 713 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: eats him up some much. I love it. You're dying 714 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 1: right now. I'm just trying to. I don't think you're 715 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 1: even point out that all these standings are totally off. 716 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: Even Sydney will admit you was trusting Nick Fortier. There 717 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: he's got it. He's got Greg. If we try to 718 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: get in touch with Greg tonight, it'll be we'll be 719 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: driving through a desert like gregor your windows down from 720 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: it's a city on the horizon. All right, So there 721 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 1: you go, go get my lunch. There's the update. Um 722 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,959 Speaker 1: let's move on to uh, let's talk about it now. West. 723 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,919 Speaker 1: First of all, do you want to share your little 724 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: thoughts on or your big thoughts? I could say, on narratives, 725 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: what's your narrative angle? You want to talk about that? 726 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,760 Speaker 1: As we talk about by Cell Hold on offseason narratives. 727 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what a narrative is. Before Peyton Manning 728 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: told somebody, I'm not I don't believe your narrative or 729 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: whatever it was a few years ago, a narrative meant 730 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: storytelling from one point of view. He's like, Okay, you're 731 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: gonna control somebody, You're gonna lead them along, and the 732 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: reader wants to know what happens next. What narrative? I 733 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: think what what people think it is now it's a 734 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: an opinion widely held by people and especially susceptible to snark. 735 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: That's what a narrative isn't But that's not really what 736 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: a narrative is. Narrative is not an opinion, but that's 737 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: the way people use it now. So I kind of 738 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: struggled to know like what people mean when they say, 739 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: what's an off season narrative? So it's kind of like 740 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: a story. I think everything you're saying is is a 741 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,240 Speaker 1: good point, But I think it's essentially like a story 742 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: that that you're right, many people are telling themselves, are 743 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: telling the people that listen to them, you know, if 744 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: they're members and you. So it's everything that ever gets 745 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: said in the off season. No, I think it's like convence. 746 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: It's it's almost a shorthand. And this isn't maybe the 747 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,720 Speaker 1: right way to use the word, but it's a shorthand 748 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: for conventional wisdom. I missed the words conventional wisdom, bring 749 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 1: the back conventional messaging, because I don't know if it's wisdom. 750 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 1: So we're what we're gonna do here now is we're 751 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: gonna throw out some conventional wisdom messaging League messaging. Uh, 752 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: we're not here to boil the ocean, gentlemen, but what 753 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,280 Speaker 1: we want to do. That's one of the Corpo buzzwords 754 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: popped up recently that we made note of. Uh, and buy, 755 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: sell or hold on these things that are happening. And Mark, 756 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: why don't you get us going throwing out there and 757 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: let us know if you're buy buying, you're selling, you're holding. 758 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: All right, Let's say first that I love our corporation 759 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: and I love our sponsors's narrative. Let's try. I think 760 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: there's a lot of narrative type stuff. I'm with West. 761 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: I have no idea what a narrative is. It was 762 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: I struggled to come up with these, but here we go. 763 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: There's a lot of narrative e type stuff around Jay Cutler. 764 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 1: He's gonna do this, he's gonna do that. So according 765 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: to many, Jay Cutler is done with football. He's happy 766 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,240 Speaker 1: to simply show his butt two people on seaside cliffs 767 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: now and that's the extent of it. Do we buy it? 768 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: Done out gone? I'm selling that. Uh, where do you 769 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: where do you come down? I believe that Jake Cutler 770 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: likes to enjoy his off season the way that I 771 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: would like to enjoy mine. He has the ability to, 772 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: and he's out on vacation, standing over a fence naked 773 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: with his hot wife. That's what you would like to do. 774 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: I would love to be just out wherever he is 775 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: on this tropical vacation. And when football comes back around, 776 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: then you do. I am a married person. I would 777 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: bring my my spouse with me. Greg. But when he 778 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 1: has to get pulled into the life of football, and 779 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 1: then all the bullets start flying, quarterbacks go down, and suddenly, 780 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: Jake Cutler, his stock starts rising, his contract value starts rising. 781 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: He's had a big long break. He hasn't had to 782 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: go through the rigamarole of March through whatever. Yes, I 783 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be back in so I'm not buying 784 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 1: your selling. I'm selling it hard. He's coming back. He's 785 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: playing next season. In my book, I agree. Once the 786 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: off season starts in March and April in May, all 787 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: NFL executives over value draft picks and undervalue veterans who 788 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 1: can play, And by the time training camp rules around, 789 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: they start to value veterans again because the coach has 790 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 1: become more of the process. And I think at that point, 791 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 1: once you see an injury to a quarterback, Jay Cutler 792 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: is going to have his phone ringing perfectly said, alright, West, 793 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: your turn by cell. Hold all thirty two teams are 794 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: colluding to black ball the thirty second best quarterback in 795 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: the NFL. Well, we know where you're what you're doing, 796 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: but you should tell us. I'm selling the hell out 797 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: of that one. You've been selling real hard. What do 798 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: you guys think I'm selling? Because it's this, It's same 799 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: thing with Cutler. It's the next guy down that list. 800 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: If you really get into a position where you need 801 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: a quarterback forget all this business. Whatever you think about 802 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick, you get it. You you have to sign it. 803 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: It's gonna be. It's a need situation. I'm selling. Not 804 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: only would they neither collude the it's just timing. I 805 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: think Keith going to be on a team I'm holding. 806 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: I think he might be getting black balled. Also, it 807 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: doesn't help his cause that he he hasn't been a 808 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: very good quarterback by all thirty two teams, though all 809 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 1: thirty two teams probably not, but well, don't interested, right, 810 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: there only be a handful that could even makes sense. 811 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: I mean, right, that's not how the word black ball works. Right. 812 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: I don't think the NFL in general does things as 813 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 1: a whole. It is truly thirty two independent operations. I 814 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: don't think they're all on a conference call saying this 815 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: player doesn't get signed by any of us, and they 816 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: all say yes, I'm holding all right, Well, we try 817 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: to convince you. An opinion, just an opinion. It's it's 818 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: a it's an ugly situation with Colin Kaepernick. I'll throw 819 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: it out there. The Texans will be aggressive and targeting 820 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,919 Speaker 1: a quarterback after the Tony Romo news. Now, obviously they're 821 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: gonna go get a quarterback. I'm buying on that, but 822 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 1: I will even take it a step further. They're going 823 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:05,280 Speaker 1: to be hyper aggressive. They are going to go nuts. 824 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: They're gonna do something kind of really on a surfacing 825 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,439 Speaker 1: type move, which is trading way up in the first round, 826 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: I think, to get a quarter And I'll even throw 827 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 1: a team out there, a tier A team you know 828 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,399 Speaker 1: West is near and tear to my heart, the Jets 829 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: with the fifth pick, Jets team looking looking for more 830 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,240 Speaker 1: draft picks, uh and a Jets team that's not necessarily 831 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: looking for a quarterback that early. I could see the 832 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: Texans trading way up in the first round and getting 833 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback that they need to convince as their guy, 834 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,720 Speaker 1: because it ain't Tom Savage. I know that I'm bying 835 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 1: that this is wish fulfillment for Dan and the rest 836 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: of the Jets fans out there. I mean, Rick Smith, Well, 837 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be the Jets. What I'm saying 838 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: that they aggressively and they trade up to get one 839 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: of these, like top three quarterback Mitch Mitch Robinsky. Smith 840 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: hasn't drafted a quarterback in the top three rounds for 841 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: eleven years. I don't know. I don't know if he's 842 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,760 Speaker 1: gonna be trading up in a draft where people generally 843 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 1: think there could be many of the top quarterbacks available 844 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: at pick possibly all of them. Right you're at I'm 845 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: with you, Greg, You're talking about going from twenty five 846 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 1: up to potentially six or somewhere in that area that 847 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: is extremely expensive. The one visit that they've had that 848 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: is just interesting is Patrick Mahomes. That's a Bill O'Brien 849 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: type of quarterback. Potentially a lot of people feel like 850 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: he could fade into the second round even that a 851 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: lot of these guys are gonna be there when they pick. 852 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: So if it's a trade up, I could see it 853 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: being you gotta hop scotch a team like the Giants, 854 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,240 Speaker 1: maybe that is looking for a post Eli type quarterback 855 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 1: or one of these teams a couple slots up. I 856 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: don't see going all the way up to five or 857 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: about getting in front of the Browns. It's we that 858 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 1: could happen that if they really or trade trade trade 859 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: with the Browns. I don't think they gave up their 860 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: second round pick to get rid of their last quarterbacks, 861 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: but they could they gave away next year. I mean, 862 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 1: you can talk about trading future draft picks. Maybe Cleveland 863 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: would trade with Houston. Here's another follow up question. Something 864 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: you said, what is a Bill O'Brian quarterback? Well, I 865 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: think we waited to find out if from the draft 866 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 1: that is, yeah, but I think it's more it's more 867 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: Jake Cutler than it would be called Kaepernick. I think 868 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: Jake Cutler really doesn't fit just because I think he 869 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 1: wants someone that you know, is known for reading coverages 870 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: and it can like figure out he puts a lot 871 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: on their plate and it's not Jake Cutler necessarily either. 872 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: I think that sounds like they they short circuited brock Osweller. 873 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm buying this for one very simple reason, because you 874 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: have to ask yourself, what is the most reactive move possible? 875 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 1: That's what I mean in the wake of Tony Romo, 876 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: because the Texans are always reacting to something at quarterback, 877 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: and now they're gonna be reacting to not getting Tony 878 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: Tony Romo, so they're gonna be aggressive. Was there a 879 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: more reactive mood than move than Brian Hoyer crapping the 880 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: bed in the playoffs and then giving seventy two million 881 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: dollar contract to brock Oswa. I think without me that 882 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: had the owners sign on, we have to I think 883 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: in that organization specifically where the owners, that dictates so 884 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: much about what they how come no one is talking 885 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 1: about the fact that there's another professional athlete named Pat 886 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:12,959 Speaker 1: Mahomes his father. I mean, Pat Mahomes, is it really? 887 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 1: I mean that made me giggle as a child over 888 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: and over that just the that the name Pat Mahomes 889 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: existed and now it's back Troy Hawkins. Is it sounded like, 890 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, the al twenty years veteran reliever Hawkins stepfather. 891 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: That's a great that's a great. Uh bullpen he's got 892 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: as dad, And Daniel Jeremi is like, oh my god, alright, alright, alright. Uh. 893 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: My narrative is going to be the Atlanta Falcons will 894 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: have a Super Bowl hangover, and I'm going to hold 895 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: on that because I don't know how to feel about this. 896 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: I think Dan Quinn is uniquely geared and built to 897 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: fire up this team and get past it that he's 898 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 1: he's just the right attitude and I think he's so 899 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: positive in the energy, and I think they've got a 900 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: young defense that's coming together. That side of the ball 901 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 1: should get better. So there are logical reasons why that 902 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,320 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have a Super Bowl hangover. But man, that 903 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 1: that is as bad a loss as you'll ever see. 904 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 1: It's hard enough to just you know, bounce back like 905 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: we saw with the Panthers and repeat a magical season 906 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: like that, and you lost Kyle Shanahan. So I am 907 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,399 Speaker 1: totally on the fence. I don't know what to think 908 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 1: about this Falcons team, but I think just writing them 909 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 1: off like they're not, you know, an elite quote unquote 910 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: team discredits a little bit what they accomplished on offense. 911 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: They should have won that Super Bowl. It was one 912 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,280 Speaker 1: of the best offenses we've seen in a long time, 913 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: and they should be. We should be talking about them 914 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,839 Speaker 1: as Super Bowl champions. It didn't happen. So I don't 915 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,840 Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen with this team. I'm holding what 916 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 1: is hangover? Mean, like six and ten are now not 917 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: making the playoffs. I think anything short of the playoffs 918 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: as a hang over. If you make the playoffs, I 919 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 1: don't think you can say it's a hank. I think 920 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 1: this those special, like record breaking offensive seasons, when they 921 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 1: come come around, they usually don't get followed up with 922 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,839 Speaker 1: another one. And I think everything worked and you had 923 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and I hate I hate to say it 924 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 1: because I feel bad for Falcons fans. I mean, it 925 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 1: was the Patriots of all teams that took it from 926 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 1: them all. So but I do get I kind of 927 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 1: buy that that was the window and that was They'll 928 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 1: never be as good as that an offense, and Matt 929 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 1: Ryan will never be that good again, and he might 930 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: be very good, but that was their season and they 931 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 1: just didn't finish. And it's positive. It's very possible to 932 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 1: me that they won't get back and there will be 933 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 1: a hangover. Here's what I like about this team last 934 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: year's draft. So many of those players that they drafted 935 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 1: directly that they developed them quickly and well, and they 936 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 1: all contributed to a team that went as far as 937 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: you can go outside of one bad quarter, one bad half. 938 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 1: I think they're going to continue to do that. They 939 00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: have a good front office. Dan Quinn has gone out 940 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 1: of his way to talk to other coaches in other 941 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 1: sports that suffered similar total crumblings in the big in 942 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: a big spot, and I think the teams athletes today 943 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,399 Speaker 1: are trained to move on. The fans we can't move 944 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,359 Speaker 1: on from it, but a lot of these guys can. 945 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 1: And it's a new day starting next season. I don't 946 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 1: think it's a whole hole and they don't see a hangover. 947 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm selling. I'm so confused by the concept of narrative. 948 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,800 Speaker 1: I had no idea this was even out there in 949 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 1: the football like discussion. It's all anyone talks to Dan 950 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,800 Speaker 1: Quinn about. Every single football publication has had like a 951 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: feature about the Super Bowl hangover already. I mean, they 952 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: lost Kyle Shanahan, so it's easy for me to believe 953 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,439 Speaker 1: that they're not going to be as good. I don't 954 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,839 Speaker 1: know about this specific Super Bowl hangover word, but yeah, 955 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be as good because they 956 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: lost Kyle Shanahan. It reminds me of when Pete Carroll 957 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,800 Speaker 1: was asked four thousand and five hundred times about throwing 958 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,439 Speaker 1: the fasts instead of running the ball in the Super Bowl, 959 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 1: and that wasn't the end of the Seahawks, I think. 960 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 1: But have they come nearly as close since they had 961 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 1: a hangover. We've been in the division around both the 962 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 1: years since. So if if the Falcons given get back 963 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,839 Speaker 1: and get back in position, and then I think they're 964 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: doing their job. What more can you ask for out 965 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: of an NFL team? It's tough, kind of a nebulous term, 966 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 1: but he said not making playoffs. Yeah, I'm saying if look, 967 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 1: the Falcons didn't come back close to the playoffs for 968 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: three straight years until last year. If they can establish 969 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: themselves as a team that's in the playoffs, in the 970 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: mix each and every year, I think I think they'd 971 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: be happy. Hey, time now, it's time? Now? Is that 972 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 1: it for the narratives? Maybe we'll have one more after this, 973 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 1: but time now for draft backs driven by Hunda. You know, 974 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,360 Speaker 1: they gave us this this read to do and was 975 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 1: everyone in the media group has to do draft backs 976 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 1: and we're not really draft guys. But I was told 977 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 1: Sydney said do your best. We didn't even know that 978 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes, we could come up with the drafts back 979 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 1: of our own. Well there's Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes, father, 980 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,240 Speaker 1: that's a good one. Pretty good. I got another one. Okay, 981 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna get un What a what a better bond 982 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 1: than the one that you have with us because we're 983 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,319 Speaker 1: giving you two draft backs. We're giving you a lot. 984 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,479 Speaker 1: What are you giving us? Here we go. I'm looking 985 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 1: for a car this summer. Just putting that out there again. 986 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,840 Speaker 1: Here's a draft fact. Elton Patterson defense events Central Florida. 987 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 1: Selected by the Cincinnati Bengals with a two fifty nine 988 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 1: pick overall in the seventh round the two thousand three 989 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,359 Speaker 1: NFL Draft. He finished with one career sack in eight 990 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: games spent with Cincinnati and Jacksonville. There you go. That 991 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 1: was draft backs driven by Hyundai. Elton. How many Elton's 992 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 1: have there been in the NFL? I don't know, but 993 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,919 Speaker 1: we have time for one more, Greg and you seem 994 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 1: to be considering it's pretty good that he got a sack. 995 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:52,960 Speaker 1: At least he had. That guy can get in the 996 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 1: big guys. Got a motor for days wherever he is. Now, 997 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:58,839 Speaker 1: you got one more? Do you want to get out 998 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: of here? By? It's up to you. You know, good one, 999 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: you're leading the way. Is it a good one? Be confident? 1000 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 1: Say it is? It's good? Alright, let's do it. Last one. 1001 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 1: West has been pedaling this car. You know. The super 1002 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,320 Speaker 1: Bowl window is closing for the Cardinals. There's a narrative 1003 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 1: for you and that I'm selling it. I don't believe it. 1004 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 1: I don't believe. I don't believe in windows generally anyways, 1005 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 1: the super Bowl windows opening closing. But I definitely don't 1006 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 1: believe it with this Cardinal. Why don't you believe in 1007 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,440 Speaker 1: super Bowl windows opening and closing? That's a weird belief 1008 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: to hold because I don't. I don't think a window 1009 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,240 Speaker 1: connotates like many years, it's either it's open or it's closed. 1010 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 1: Do they have a chance to win this year? Yes? 1011 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 1: I think they do. I don't think they're that much 1012 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,800 Speaker 1: different overall than they were going into last year or 1013 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 1: even the year before that, and I think if everything 1014 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 1: fell right for them, yes they can be a content. 1015 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 1: This is one area where you and I will always 1016 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 1: differ because, and potentially to your credit, you look at 1017 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,239 Speaker 1: the league and you feel like anything can happen. Any 1018 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 1: team can wind up at the point and I and 1019 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,840 Speaker 1: I feel that four or five teams ops have a 1020 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 1: chance at the super Bowl. And they would have never 1021 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 1: considered the Falcons as one of those teams. And there 1022 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 1: was all right, So then the fifth team is a 1023 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 1: wild fifth or six team is a wild card team. 1024 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,760 Speaker 1: Were not concerned. We were indignant a year ago about 1025 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,800 Speaker 1: considering like the Panthers or the Cardinals could could not 1026 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 1: even make the count that the Patriots are going to 1027 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 1: absolutely go back to the super Bowl. I would just 1028 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 1: say this that was guaranteed. There is the Cardinals. Thing 1029 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 1: does not come out of thin air. You've lost a 1030 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 1: ton of defensive talent. You're hoping that your quarterback suddenly resurges. 1031 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 1: You know, we talked about teams where everything went right 1032 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 1: the year before. For the Cardinals, up until the NFC 1033 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 1: Title Game, everything was going right. They were essentially the 1034 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: Falcons of last year or the year before up until 1035 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 1: things the wheels fell off. I don't think they're going 1036 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,760 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. The team has a huge amount 1037 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,759 Speaker 1: of pressure on them to nail this draft, to even 1038 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 1: get a roster in shape, even to compare with last 1039 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,319 Speaker 1: years of the years before. I don't think they're going 1040 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. I just think they went down 1041 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,800 Speaker 1: to the shop. Then well that's just of course. I 1042 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 1: don't think they're going. You only one team is going. 1043 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 1: They had their wings shuts. How about the chance this 1044 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 1: narrative you're spinning if their roster is the same as 1045 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 1: it was, like it's equally as strong as it was 1046 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 1: going in the last season. They're worse at quarterback, They're 1047 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,720 Speaker 1: worse than the wide receiver corps. They're worse than the defense. 1048 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 1: Think they'll be better. Are worse at linebacker, they're worse 1049 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 1: than the secondary. They're based around one player. I think 1050 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 1: they'll be better at wide receiver for sure. I think 1051 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 1: they can get better play out of their line. I 1052 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: don't think their offensive lines worse. Why but they lost 1053 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 1: Evan Mathis he's not there anymore. Uh, Jared Elder's coming 1054 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: off an injury. I mean, who's who's better than they were? 1055 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 1: Like they're moving Bill Deer to write tackle it sounds 1056 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 1: like you're gonna put punt. I don't understand how you 1057 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,920 Speaker 1: look at that. I don't think they're better. I just 1058 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm up. There's one of many teams that that have 1059 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,240 Speaker 1: a chance and not by somehow close I'm holding. I'm holding. 1060 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,839 Speaker 1: Let's see what they do in the draft, because two 1061 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,320 Speaker 1: years ago they got the best player in the league 1062 00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,320 Speaker 1: basically and and never been flaying about Kim Bomb and 1063 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,480 Speaker 1: then he kind of do so well in the last draft. 1064 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 1: If he has a great draft and he's and some 1065 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 1: of these guys bounced back, maybe Honey Badgers gets healthier 1066 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer players like he did in the last half 1067 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,319 Speaker 1: of the season. That's a big A couple of other things, 1068 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,400 Speaker 1: uh come together. Well, you know, it's not like the 1069 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: NFC is is has these giants that It's not like 1070 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 1: in the a f C with the Patriots, and you're like, Jesus, 1071 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,919 Speaker 1: we we are really looking up at a monster. NFC 1072 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 1: is a little wide open. The NFC is a little 1073 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 1: tougher to get into the playoffs in general. The one 1074 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 1: thing they have going for them is that the NFC 1075 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,319 Speaker 1: West is not what it was A couple you're right. 1076 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 1: I'm counting on a lot of their guys having better 1077 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,120 Speaker 1: seasons than they did a year ago, Like Carson Palmer, 1078 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 1: like Tyrone Matthew, like John Brown, uh frankly, like like 1079 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: Bruce Arians, right, and he Bruce Arians to me, and 1080 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 1: I love Bruce Arians. We all knew he seemed a 1081 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 1: little bit out of it last year. I don't know 1082 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 1: what it was. It wasn't the same guy. They're also 1083 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 1: in the playoffs last year. If their kicker was the 1084 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: so there, it wasn't like they had they were a 1085 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,279 Speaker 1: train wreck last season. Just a couple of things. Just 1086 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 1: there was some Bruce Areans, Brandon Williams could be my 1087 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 1: starting cornerback, got torched early in the season. D J. 1088 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 1: Humphries can be my starting right tackle, got torched early 1089 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 1: in the season. All right before we go, We promised 1090 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 1: after the stunning and it was stunning to us too, 1091 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,440 Speaker 1: even though it shouldn't have been. We lost track of 1092 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,960 Speaker 1: the days in the weeks and the months the stunning 1093 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 1: acknowledgment that there are new sponsors with the podcast, and 1094 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 1: what did that mean? It was? It was, let's be honest, 1095 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a Tony Romo. Phil Sims scenario 1096 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 1: with the great Mr Flame playing the role of Phil Simms. 1097 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 1: Dare you compare? I'm just connecting it. I'm connecting it 1098 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 1: to current events. But the difference is this podcast is 1099 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,480 Speaker 1: a class act and we could not say goodbye to 1100 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 1: to Mr F as a sponsor without speaking to him 1101 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 1: about to formally see where his head's at, see if 1102 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 1: he's okay with what's going on with our new relationships, 1103 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 1: corporate relationships. So let's bring him on the line. Now. 1104 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 1: You know where he's coming from. You know where it's 1105 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 1: coming from, the Hague, that Netherlands. Mr Flame, of his 1106 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 1: fame economics class, Welcome back to the Around the NFL podcast, 1107 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 1: Mr Flame, Thanks, thanks stand high heroes. You know now 1108 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 1: I want to just be totally honest with us here, 1109 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 1: Mr F. How surprised were you when let's call it 1110 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 1: the Hyundai bomb dropped? Well, it was a little, it 1111 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 1: was a little surprising. I was unfortunately a bad evening 1112 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 1: and I watched my Gonzega Bulldogs loose U n C 1113 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 1: and the sponsorship news came in on the same night. 1114 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe decided in the middle of the night, 1115 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,760 Speaker 1: a little, a little blindsided, but not unexpected. Honestly, from 1116 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 1: everything we've talked about all year was just what's the 1117 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,440 Speaker 1: next best thing for the podcast? And I think that 1118 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 1: two sponsors is a really really good deal for you. Well, 1119 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 1: you are an economics man, as we know, and uh yeah, 1120 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,479 Speaker 1: in terms of of the economics stuff. But I guess 1121 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 1: for the NFL it made sense. Mr Flame was so 1122 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,480 Speaker 1: kind to us but paid us mostly and and things 1123 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 1: like sandwiches and warm regards, whereas these other companies are 1124 00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 1: now coming with a whole coal hard cash. So I 1125 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,240 Speaker 1: guess I'll say this as an economics man, even if 1126 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 1: you're a little disappointed, it makes sense. It makes dollars. 1127 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 1: That makes sense, right, oh totally? And and and also 1128 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:36,479 Speaker 1: think about your FI for all of the previous bits 1129 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 1: about the pea scale. I mean, come on, you got 1130 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 1: another company in Culver City. It doesn't get any better, 1131 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 1: That's true. That's a very good point by the great 1132 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 1: Mr Flame. Don't you go ahead? Greg? I was gonna say, 1133 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 1: don't you think it also makes sense? You know, Mr Flame? 1134 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 1: If if we're as classy as Dan just called us, that, 1135 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 1: maybe we would have told you at some point in 1136 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,960 Speaker 1: between taping the podcast and when you listen to it, yourself, 1137 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,360 Speaker 1: So I apologize for that that that's my own fault. 1138 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Oh no, don't worry. You guys are super busy, and hey, 1139 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: the offseason's time for uh for odd shows. Where when's 1140 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 1: the you know, the the classic religion podcast and the 1141 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: podcast and the novel podcast. It's gonna be great coming up. 1142 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you have a class that you've been teaching 1143 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:23,720 Speaker 1: about this interaction with us and sponsorship. The final chapter 1144 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 1: feels a little grim. It's essentially a lesson on greed 1145 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 1: and corporate malfeasance and basically taking the four of us. 1146 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 1: At one point, we were getting great gifts from you. 1147 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 1: Now we are getting essentially nothing. Our our company is 1148 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 1: being rewarded. I don't what would you How would you 1149 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 1: explain this to a group of young teenagers in the 1150 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 1: Hague the Netherlands. Well, in terms of economics, it makes 1151 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 1: a lot of sense for the corporation, but I also 1152 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 1: think that there's an opportunity here for you guys. You're 1153 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to find a way to uh to make 1154 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 1: sure that these sponsors recognized that the heroes need a 1155 01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,400 Speaker 1: little cut of the pie. And UH would you like 1156 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 1: to represent us? I think I need to. I mean 1157 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,200 Speaker 1: It's clear Sydney has already got one of the brand 1158 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:10,800 Speaker 1: new Santa face for two thousand eighteen New Money's new 1159 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 1: car and me and he's has already convinced Mark to 1160 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 1: go back to underwear. So this is the perfect springtime 1161 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,480 Speaker 1: for you guys. Yeah, you know what that's Mrs Positivity 1162 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 1: has always been such an amazing thing, and it's leaving 1163 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 1: us feeling better about how this is played out because 1164 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 1: it was ultimately it was another win for the big 1165 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 1: boxes over the little guy. But it just shows the 1166 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 1: conquering spirit of Mr F type, not to say, hey, 1167 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 1: let's look at the positive, look at look at the upside. 1168 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to look at that way I have. 1169 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 1: I've said several times that that Mr F as our 1170 01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,400 Speaker 1: sponsor is my favorite portion in the history of this podcast. 1171 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,520 Speaker 1: I loved everything about it. Mr F. Did your sponsorship 1172 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,880 Speaker 1: of us? Did it live up to your expectations? Oh? 1173 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 1: It exceeded it in so many ways. You can't believe 1174 01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:01,280 Speaker 1: how many fans have reached out to me just to 1175 01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:06,040 Speaker 1: say that the thanks that I'm sending you reflect the 1176 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,480 Speaker 1: thanks that we all feel. You know, listening for so 1177 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,200 Speaker 1: many years to your great show. It makes us laugh 1178 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 1: out loud, and and they have told me to tell 1179 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 1: you just you know how great a show it is, 1180 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:23,040 Speaker 1: and that and that that's um why you know why 1181 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:27,920 Speaker 1: we listen. And that has been a really unusual or 1182 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,000 Speaker 1: surprising thing out of this. I thought it was just, 1183 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, kind of a one off six months ago. 1184 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,920 Speaker 1: I just sort of said, now, we'd like to run 1185 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:41,080 Speaker 1: these bits into the ground, um alright at Mike Flame 1186 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,600 Speaker 1: one by the way on Twitter, and it would be 1187 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,000 Speaker 1: I think also, it would be foolish not to to 1188 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,080 Speaker 1: to leave you here without giving And we talked about 1189 01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 1: this earlier in the week, Mark and Mr Flame it's 1190 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 1: become a real friendship. So we're gonna leave the two 1191 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,360 Speaker 1: of you a private moment now to share your thoughts 1192 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,120 Speaker 1: about each other. Go ahead, Well, doesn't feel very private. 1193 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,840 Speaker 1: I have three people right around me, listen. I think 1194 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 1: Mr f the bottom bullet points set an all around 1195 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,320 Speaker 1: great guy, and that's what he is. I mean, he 1196 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,040 Speaker 1: came in and maybe if it had been a different 1197 01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 1: type of personality, we would have said one week of 1198 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,360 Speaker 1: a sponsorship is enough. But he didn't lure us in. 1199 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,320 Speaker 1: I think he really showed us that he got what 1200 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,320 Speaker 1: our podcast was about you though, Speak to Mr Flame. 1201 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:27,080 Speaker 1: I this is Dan is a master of creating ultra 1202 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 1: awkward moments in my life, and this is another one 1203 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,960 Speaker 1: of them. But Mr Eff, you are a friend of mine. 1204 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 1: You're a friend, You're a good man. Right now, definitely 1205 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:41,760 Speaker 1: experience for me too. I've really really enjoyed the bit 1206 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 1: the extended. Sure, it's been fantastic, but could you make 1207 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:50,080 Speaker 1: it a little more personal? Four mark, I don't I 1208 01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 1: don't have a soundtrack and three people watching on my end. 1209 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 1: That's right, all right, excellent, and you know, uh, let's 1210 01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,880 Speaker 1: stay in touch it because you never know the core 1211 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,640 Speaker 1: proll overlords. They may decide it doesn't work out. And 1212 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,440 Speaker 1: if you would have us back down the line, we don't. 1213 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,920 Speaker 1: We want to leave it one percent open. Probably this 1214 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:14,520 Speaker 1: is over. That sounds great. I like that plan. Who 1215 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 1: knows your softball team may need a sandwich run. There 1216 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:24,040 Speaker 1: you go, Mr f Mike Flame. Economics class in the Hague, 1217 01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 1: the Netherlands. If you're ever there, Oh my god, go 1218 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 1: sign up for that class and learn how economics work 1219 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,760 Speaker 1: and also a little bit about life, a lot about life. 1220 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 1: Make the pilgrimage there. I saw you do it, and 1221 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:39,000 Speaker 1: you say Hello, Mecca Economics, and you sign up for 1222 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:40,920 Speaker 1: a high school class. I don't think you can just 1223 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 1: go into a high school class. Well, that that was 1224 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 1: the advertisement on our podcast for the last you know, 1225 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 1: five six months. Don't try it out. See what that 1226 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,920 Speaker 1: takes you. I think we're gonna meet Mr Flame before 1227 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 1: our lives are are through. I and I'll bring up 1228 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,840 Speaker 1: this conversation at that time. I think we are going 1229 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 1: to see him. I don't know where it gonna be. 1230 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 1: I hope it's in the Netherlands. We are going to 1231 01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,200 Speaker 1: meet Mr Flame. I'm on board with this theory. All right, Well, 1232 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 1: you never know. We'll see but we gotta go now. 1233 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,480 Speaker 1: It's sad to say goodbye to Mr Flame and goodbye 1234 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,280 Speaker 1: to our audience for another show. But here's a good news. 1235 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,080 Speaker 1: We're still friends and Mr Flame and we'll be back 1236 01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,000 Speaker 1: next week with a whole another show. And thank you 1237 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,720 Speaker 1: everybody that's watching the streaming. Uh, we're gonna be doing 1238 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,920 Speaker 1: this every Thursday for the entirety of April. Is that correct, 1239 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:35,400 Speaker 1: Sydney NFL dot com Thursdays at nine eastern six specific Well, 1240 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,240 Speaker 1: that you didn't sound very certain about that. I wasn't 1241 01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 1: good job, Greg all right, let's go and we've got 1242 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 1: everything's working out here outside of a total injustice that's 1243 01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,200 Speaker 1: been heard with Mr F. That's true, that's fair, but 1244 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,720 Speaker 1: let's let's paint it with a nice little brush. We 1245 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,800 Speaker 1: got it. We gotta move forward as a unit. Then 1246 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,520 Speaker 1: let's go home. This is Dan Hansons signing off four 1247 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:04,800 Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Boss, A new money behind 1248 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:24,720 Speaker 1: the Glass Tope, my day, m