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Speaker 1: Who are the ten most important players to watch at

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Speaker 1: Mets spring training? We got games this weekend. The Mets

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Speaker 1: play baseball. Is it meaningful? The wins and losses aren't,

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Speaker 1: But what happens inside the games for these individual players

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Speaker 1: is something that me and James are gonna be super

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Speaker 1: super watching over. Before we do get going into our list,

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Speaker 1: We really got eleven players for the YouTube title.

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Speaker 2: We went ten.

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Speaker 1: But I'm excited because as high as I think of

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Speaker 1: this team, it is crazy that we can come up

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Speaker 1: with eleven players easily.

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Speaker 2: That we're like, what's going on here?

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Speaker 3: We could get fourteen, fifteen, sixteen. We'll probably find a

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Speaker 3: way to mention that many players anyway, But just this,

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Speaker 3: the talk around the league right now, and I think

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Speaker 3: it's fair, is that there's not many teams that have

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Speaker 3: as wide of a range between ceiling and floor.

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Speaker 2: As the Mets do, and I think.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of It's gonna be fun for the regular season,

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Speaker 3: but it's at least fun to get morsels of that

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Speaker 3: in spring training as to what these guys are going

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Speaker 3: to look like, because right off the bat, the first

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Speaker 3: I think, to me, the most interesting player that we

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Speaker 3: have to watch this spring Bobachev's learning a.

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Speaker 2: New position and learning is very obvious.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean again, I think that's something that's going

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Speaker 3: to happen in spring training. Shout out all the beat

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Speaker 3: reporters who have to get their clicks, get their impressions

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Speaker 3: as part of the game. We understand that if you

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Speaker 3: right now, if you want to get a clean hundred thousand,

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Speaker 3: a grainy video of Bobachett boothing a ground ball and

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Speaker 1: Should we should we make a Mets up post just

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Speaker 3: To steal someone's thing and they get mad.

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Speaker 1: You just take it and be like, what do you

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Speaker 1: think about the How does Bobachett look at third base?

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Speaker 1: Because here's why I'll say we have to watch him.

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Speaker 1: He looks horrible at the position. He looks unbelievably uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: And all the concerns that you had about Bobachett were

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Speaker 1: Look looks like it could be a bit of a

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Speaker 1: early in spring. He's learning how to play a new position.

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Speaker 1: The Mets got Kai Korea. They fully trust in him

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Speaker 1: So if you can do that, I think you can

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Speaker 2: Rock a good third basement.

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Speaker 3: The flip side of this is that Bobachev was a

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Speaker 3: horrible shortstop and he always has been. The funniest thing

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Speaker 2: But also they're the same people who would.

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Speaker 3: Vivaciously defend Bobashet at any point in time over the

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Speaker 3: last five years. If you would have said Francisco Inndoor

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Speaker 3: have Brett Baby and Brett Baty. So far, it's gotten

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Speaker 3: a lot more time this spring. I've seen him taking

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Speaker 3: We've seen him starting shag some fly balls and right field.

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Speaker 3: It's this could all really get washed away and wiped

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just in case Bobachett can't handle it, which again

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Speaker 1: He can't just be a dh your gut, what's your

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Speaker 2: Like, hello, we just saw Bregman dode.

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Speaker 1: The years are so much more to the players. Bregman

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Speaker 1: can play third base, no, yeah, very well, and he's

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Speaker 2: Play two of them.

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Speaker 3: I think Bobachett's a better hitter than Alex Begman right now.

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Speaker 3: Maybe at singles, I think he'll have a higher plus

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Speaker 1: Man, don't make me take that bet. Is that our

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Speaker 3: I want that to be known. I think Bobashet is

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Speaker 3: going to be good. But these are the shortcomings that

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Speaker 3: we knew Bobasched had coming in. And again the Mets

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Speaker 3: crux of this is just because we've seen a few

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Speaker 3: grainy videos of a ball bouncing off his glove doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean he can't play third base.

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Speaker 2: It might mean you can't play.

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Speaker 1: It yet I can't play it right now on February eighteenth,

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Speaker 1: Bobuschet is not capable of playing major league third base

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Speaker 3: We have five weeks until opening day. You know, you

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Speaker 2: Five weeks springtime with Groundhog's Day. What did the groundhogs

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Speaker 1: That's terrible, terrible news, all right, But yeah, Bobaschet's definitely

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Speaker 2: I have all the faith in the world, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: Again, don't let the videos that you're seeing right now

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Speaker 2: Number two, Jonah Pong.

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Speaker 1: We know that Jonah Tong can be legitimately an ace

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Speaker 1: a very good chance that Jonah Tongue makes a big,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the whole baseball world right now is

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Speaker 3: disregarding Jonah Tongue a little bit when like, as a

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Speaker 3: A statistical cop isn't striking out like forty five fifty

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Speaker 3: let me throw the fastball's low. Get some called strikes.

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Speaker 1: Truthfully, I think because of the fall off of David

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Speaker 1: Who knows, he might just be a little bit fragile.

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Speaker 1: Sean and I has got loose bodies in his elbow

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Speaker 2: It's been a roller coaster.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of concerns, and that's what Mets

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Speaker 1: fans were worried about going into the season. Tobias Myers,

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Speaker 1: Carlos Bendoza said he's gonna be on the opening day roster.

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Speaker 3: I just think that's a strange thing to say about

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Speaker 3: the pitcher with an option in February. I think one

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Speaker 3: I think, by all accounts and measures, is a very

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Speaker 3: I was That's why that quoter took me back. I

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Speaker 1: I think worst case scenario, he's probably gonna be the

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Speaker 3: So even probably building off that as well. That's part

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Speaker 1: Did, but we're we're putting these guys all on the

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Speaker 2: It's all about throwing nasty stuff in the zone. That's it.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the best out of his own pitches

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Speaker 1: For because remember in twenty twenty three and Codi was awesome.

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Speaker 2: It was an unhittable combination.

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Speaker 1: But that's also possibly telling me Bullpen, Yes, that's possibly

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Speaker 3: If he pitches the way he can pitch, like he's

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Speaker 3: the last few years. His vossity fell off the cliff

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Speaker 3: Those were very interesting parts of that article, and again

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Speaker 1: I think it'd be crazy if we don't talk about

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Speaker 3: It seems like it's possible. But I think the Mets

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Speaker 3: keep wanting to give reasons why he not, why he can't,

438
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Speaker 3: but ways that maybe doesn't have to happen right away,

439
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Speaker 3: like I think they are concerned.

440
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Speaker 2: It's probably happened with McLain.

441
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Speaker 3: In peraltitude to a degree where just putting too much

442
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Speaker 3: pressure on the young man like this, especially a guy

443
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Speaker 3: like Bench, which we'll talk about in a second. He

444
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Speaker 3: didn't perform quite well at Triple A last year in

445
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Speaker 3: his small stint. At the same time, his underlying ballut

446
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Speaker 3: ball day that at the level said that the guy

447
00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,680
Speaker 3: was very, very very ready, which why I think the

448
00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,320
Speaker 3: Mets are holding for him that he's very ready.

449
00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:04,720
Speaker 2: But just a guy like.

450
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Speaker 3: Talkman is absolutely we say, we say the phrase oatmeal

451
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Speaker 3: a lot.

452
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Speaker 2: He is major League Baseball over me.

453
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the boy, the guy's average across the board average

454
00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,879
Speaker 3: is pretty good when you have guys like Francisco lindoor Wan.

455
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Speaker 3: So though on your team, Yeah, you can afford to

456
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Speaker 3: have some guys like that, especially like if Mike Talkman's

457
00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,479
Speaker 3: gonna hit ninth in this lineup, it's pretty good for

458
00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,520
Speaker 3: like his guy gets on base thirty five percent of

459
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Speaker 3: the time. I know, like everybody in the Mets world

460
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Speaker 3: is talking about Mike Talkman. There's a little too much

461
00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:32,080
Speaker 3: talk Man about Talkman. But at the same time, like

462
00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,840
Speaker 3: for a for a floor guy, for the twenty six

463
00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,399
Speaker 3: player on a roster truthfully, because even though he could

464
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Speaker 3: be starting opening Day, he really is probably the first

465
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Speaker 3: guy that will get cut whenever benj is ready. Like

466
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Speaker 3: I do think that he gives the Mets a nice

467
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Speaker 3: round out towards the bottom of the lineup. If your

468
00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,080
Speaker 3: nine hitter has a three forty on base percentage, you're pumped.

469
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Speaker 3: And again, the next guy I want to talk about

470
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Speaker 3: will weave these conversations together, Luis Robert.

471
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Speaker 1: He has been injury prone his career to say the least.

472
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Speaker 1: I think it's a really fair estimation of Robert. So

473
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Speaker 1: I think that just having a guy like Talkman, who's

474
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Speaker 1: a guy's a bona fide major leaguer.

475
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Speaker 3: Again, he's not going to be special. This is, again,

476
00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,160
Speaker 3: is an average baseball player. If you a prey average,

477
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Speaker 3: very average, this is an average guy. This is he's

478
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Speaker 3: a horrible athlete. He's very slow.

479
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he still can play the alfie well, he

480
00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,480
Speaker 1: still has an okay arm like he's he's a ball

481
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Speaker 1: The guy's a ball player.

482
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Speaker 2: Foolish Baseball told us.

483
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Speaker 3: He gets on base, he will get on base, especially

484
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Speaker 3: the guy like Talkman is a platoon advantage. Hither he'll

485
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Speaker 3: never take a play appearance against a left handed pitcher.

486
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Speaker 3: But that's okay, that's what you want. But just in

487
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Speaker 3: case that Robert goes down, Let's say benj is super ready.

488
00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,920
Speaker 3: He can slide over the center field den because he's

489
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Speaker 3: good enough there. And then you had a Talkman who

490
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Speaker 3: it was a minor league deal they signed with him.

491
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Speaker 2: But I don't believe.

492
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Speaker 3: He'll have an option, whereas m Jay Melendez has an option.

493
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Speaker 2: I think it's a split contract.

494
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Speaker 3: So I think that's just continuing to get more and

495
00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,359
Speaker 3: more outfield depth to be behind just because you don't

496
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,280
Speaker 3: you just you just want to have more good major

497
00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,160
Speaker 3: league players playing major league games.

498
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's insulation.

499
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Speaker 1: If Carson Benji is not that guy on March twenty sixth,

500
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Speaker 1: But we still have all the confidence in the world

501
00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,000
Speaker 1: that even if he's not on the steep opening day,

502
00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,960
Speaker 1: he'll be on the roster at some point and still

503
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,560
Speaker 1: is gonna be a very good player like him making

504
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Speaker 1: the roster opening day doesn't change what.

505
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Speaker 2: I think about him. What probably happens.

506
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Speaker 3: He probably gets on the roster onlike I think it's

507
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Speaker 3: April eleventh, which is the last day you can be

508
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Speaker 3: on the roster and qualify for the full year of

509
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Speaker 3: service time, which would mean Carson Bench will qualify for

510
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Speaker 3: PPI incentives.

511
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Speaker 2: For the Mets.

512
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Speaker 3: Yes, which is meaning Carson Bench has to be on

513
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Speaker 3: the major league roster within the first two weeks of

514
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Speaker 3: the season, and if he is, if he places for

515
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Speaker 3: the Rookie of the Year or if he places for

516
00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,160
Speaker 3: an MVP ward over the next two seasons, the Mets

517
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Speaker 3: get a compensatory draft pick for calling him up and

518
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Speaker 3: giving the full year of service time as a rookie.

519
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Speaker 2: I also do wonder if there's anything to where the

520
00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 2: Mets were.

521
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Speaker 1: Like maybe his debut shouldn't be against Paul Skeans, Like

522
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Speaker 1: maybe maybe we just don't want that, and maybe like

523
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Speaker 1: when we go play the Diamondbacks in the A's the

524
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Speaker 1: second week of April at home, maybe that's when Carson

525
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Speaker 1: Bench can kind of get his his hacks in and

526
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Speaker 1: go up against a lot of four A players that

527
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Speaker 1: are gonna be on the mound.

528
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul Skins on national television opening Day maybe, I

529
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Speaker 3: mean also else if he's ready, like who cares?

530
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:01,880
Speaker 2: Who cares?

531
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Speaker 3: Yes, I think the Mets keeps signing these contracts and

532
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,919
Speaker 3: it's all still knowing good and well. If he is ready,

533
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,679
Speaker 3: he will be playing on the major league team. And

534
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 3: what he did at Triple A last year, just like

535
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 3: one hundred and ten mile and now max ex of lascity,

536
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 3: super high head, hard hit rates, super high barrel rate,

537
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 3: like really good swing decisions, good in zone contact. Mikefielder,

538
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 3: really good outfielder, really good athlete, getting better rapidly as

539
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,919
Speaker 3: he stopped being a two way player because it's similar

540
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Speaker 3: to his college roommate Nolan McLean.

541
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Speaker 2: He was drafted to be a two way player.

542
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Speaker 3: Also, I don't know if you've been keeping up with

543
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,880
Speaker 3: the Mets YouTube channel their content side, It's been good,

544
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 3: it's been great. Carson Bengers talking about but she loved gushers.

545
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 3: Joonan Tong was talking about makepele syrup and his loving

546
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 3: Tim Linscomb like Jack Wendinger did the redd at Ama too.

547
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Speaker 3: My question did not get asked, I was frustrated about.

548
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Speaker 2: But that's that's kind of people who pick him.

549
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Speaker 3: So yeah, so yeah, probably, I mean, my name is

550
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Speaker 3: not my name, it's my initials, but it's not my name.

551
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Speaker 3: But it's just it's a It's it's really fun that

552
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Speaker 3: we have the opportunity to watch like a high end

553
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,679
Speaker 3: position player prospect like Carson Benge this year and like

554
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Speaker 3: there's a good chance he gets a job. And if

555
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Speaker 3: he gets a job, and it probably could get a

556
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Speaker 3: job early. It seems like they've really clear open this all.

557
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Speaker 2: Up for him.

558
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 3: That's yeah, and it seems to trade the brand NEMO

559
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 3: for him, honestly.

560
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, but truthfully they did, and also like to talk

561
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 1: about the guy he could be playing next to in

562
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 1: Louise Rober like Roba, we know the injury concerns. You

563
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 1: mentioned it earlier. The Mets found out something interesting where

564
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Speaker 1: they believe that they found a reason as to why

565
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Speaker 1: Luis Robert has been getting all these lower half of

566
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Speaker 1: his body injuries that he has throughout his career and

567
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Speaker 1: that they can work on strengthening those areas so that

568
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Speaker 1: he is a more durable player. He's still taking VP,

569
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 1: still doing all the stuff he's just not going to

570
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 1: impair games early, which I think is smart. Again, it

571
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter if he plays on February twenty six, that

572
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: couldn't care less. But at the same time, I watched

573
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Speaker 1: him take some VP today. Again, those videos you get.

574
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Speaker 1: I don't know how do all the reporters all of

575
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Speaker 1: a sudden not have iPhones. Everyone has an iPhone nowaday,

576
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Speaker 1: How is the quality of the video always so poor?

577
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Speaker 3: I think every First of all, I think everyone' zooming in.

578
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 3: I think you're a little bit further away than we realize.

579
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Speaker 3: I also think, too, I don't think a lot of

580
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 3: the people who are Baseball beat writers are really keen

581
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Speaker 3: to like the best iPhone camera settings. That's like a

582
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Speaker 3: ven Diagraham doesn't have that many people inside of.

583
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Speaker 1: The truthfully me write a complete sentence them take a video,

584
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: those bass off each other.

585
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Speaker 3: I might be able to get in between them. My

586
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 3: videos still look like shit whenever I try to record.

587
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Speaker 2: Something on my phone.

588
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's just the Mets knowing

589
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 3: that it's a good chance that ro Beart gets hurt.

590
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 3: But at the same time, maybe like they're just telling

591
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Speaker 3: him stretch and drink water like ill could.

592
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: Be that he's also been attached to Wan Soto's hip,

593
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Speaker 1: and the Mets have also said they're really excited about

594
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 1: Robert or Robert just being around good players again, Like

595
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 1: it seems like he's a little rejuvenated in the fact

596
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 1: that he's not looking around at guys where he's like,

597
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: I am so much better than you, What the hell

598
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 1: are you even doing here?

599
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 3: No good reporting from Will Sam and Ti Britain and

600
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Speaker 3: Laura Albanize and just a lot of the improvements that

601
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 3: the Mets want to make, it seems like physically and

602
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Speaker 3: just get him through a whole season because it seemed

603
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 3: it feels like such a layup that he's just gonna

604
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 3: be pretty good.

605
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Speaker 1: I mean watching his vPOS, like, man, he still got it,

606
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 1: you never lost it, Like there's nothing wrong he has

607
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 1: but kind of I mean last yeah, and then we

608
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Speaker 1: have the line from Scott Boris on foul Territory being

609
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Speaker 1: like yeah, which is classic Scott Boris after the fact

610
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 1: he's just getting ready for.

611
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Speaker 2: Free agency the next two years.

612
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, where it's like, oh we found something, we clicked,

613
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 3: We saw some click mid season. The shame he got

614
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 3: hurt because he would have had that great second half.

615
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: He was all ready for it after having two good weeks.

616
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Speaker 3: But it's just it feels, especially like starting to fancy

617
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 3: baseball prep, this feels like a layup.

618
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, this feels like an easy, like no risk and

619
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Speaker 1: go take a shot on him.

620
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 2: He's just really going to be good.

621
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Speaker 3: And then moving on past these guys, another guy we're

622
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Speaker 3: starting to kind of feel like a layup. It was

623
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Speaker 3: really easy to forget about him. Christian Scott. Yeah, like

624
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Speaker 3: the way that Mendoz and especially Justin Willer has been

625
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 3: talking about Christian Scott right now and the way Scott

626
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 3: seems confident in his stuff. Very long layof after the

627
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Speaker 3: Timmy John surgery. It happened in the middle of the

628
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four season, met June twenty twenty four. I mean,

629
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Speaker 3: actually I think that's when he went out. I don't

630
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 3: think got the surgeries of late that season. Officially, yes,

631
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 3: if I remember correctly, September August.

632
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Speaker 2: But now it's.

633
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Speaker 3: Just, oh god, that first fastball he threw, I was like,

634
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 3: oh my god, it's back.

635
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 2: It's so it's so back. Yeah, I mean, this was

636
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 2: this was your boy, This was like your first one.

637
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: This is your prospect crush where you You literally like,

638
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: I have to be at his home debut. You rearranged

639
00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: your schedule to make sure you saw Christian Scott was

640
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: a pitch against the Braves.

641
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: No, yeah, it was a home game against the Braves.

642
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 3: I literally rearranged my schedules to Smit to watch his

643
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: major league debut. I skipped a friend's birthday party for

644
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: that one. Showed up at ten pm. I was like,

645
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 3: I gotta watch Christian Scott through five innutes. I think

646
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 3: you might throw six in that one. But the biggest

647
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 3: thing with him is just the fastball came back and

648
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: it's it's explosive. He's back to where it has to be.

649
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 3: The philosophy's back in the mid to upper nineties. I

650
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 3: saw that bat against Solo too. I tweeted about it

651
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 3: that that's struck him out right, struck him out. But

652
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 3: it was a classic Christian skuy that bat where the

653
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: first fastball was great, challenge him, high swung in the solo,

654
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Speaker 3: gave him a look. Then he dropped a gyro slider

655
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Speaker 3: back door on him, a little tight slider and nabbed

656
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 3: the corner. Then he tried to throw the new kick

657
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 3: change against him. R I think it's a new kick change.

658
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 3: I they can't tell that. I know he had to

659
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 3: split change and I was working on a kick change.

660
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 3: Whatever of speed through to him was completely uncompetitive. So

661
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 3: had his foot out of the box before the pictures

662
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 3: even halfway.

663
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 2: In the plate. And then he got him again with

664
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: the high fastball.

665
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 3: So I was like, damn, Like if you could get

666
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 3: if you could just get a picture that had had

667
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 3: problems with left handed batterers, if you can get the

668
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 3: best one in the league out your first shot live

669
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 3: VP coming off.

670
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 2: Major arm surgery, not that good.

671
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: Feels pretty good for good place to start to be

672
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: excited about it as a Mets fan. Also just quickly

673
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: to talk about wants Soto. Clearly not a player to watch,

674
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: but boy does he feel really relaxed.

675
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 3: And he looks like having a great time. He was

676
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 3: jumping up it down for Cisco over as they were screaming,

677
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 3: hugging each other.

678
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 2: Thirty nine percent.

679
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 3: That's why, yeah, right, that's what we got. We got

680
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 3: the quote that we finally did it, mission accomplished. I mean, also,

681
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 3: this was not a player to watch because one he's injured,

682
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 3: but the Steve Collin, Francisco Lindor comments were.

683
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: Trains or I We've talked about it off air. The

684
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: way that I'm taking it because I want to I

685
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,959
Speaker 1: want positive spin zone. Is that maybe like it bothered

686
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: Francisco Lindor a bit just hearing all this stuff and

687
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: like the unknown as Steve Cohen's like, don't worry about it,

688
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: Like we're we're not gonna have a captain, so you

689
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: don't need to be that guy. Don't worry about it,

690
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: go play baseball.

691
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

692
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 3: The way I'm taking is a little bit more of

693
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 3: like the junior soprano ankle of it, where it's, ah,

694
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 3: you never met the makings of a varsity athlete.

695
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: Steve Comb.

696
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 3: I was just like, you're don't, I don't know if

697
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 3: you're a captain, dude, Like it's okay, we don't have

698
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 3: to name a captain. And there's been rumbling still about

699
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 3: the brandon Nimo stuff last offseason, but one so they

700
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 3: calling something Marte the captain.

701
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: Of the team.

702
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: So it just seems like everybody stop thinking about this.

703
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: Who gives a fun, Let's focus on baseball. And ultimately

704
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: that's why I think it's in that positive baseball I

705
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: want Francisco Indoor wants so I want everybody baseball.

706
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: I don't give a shit about anything else with this team.

707
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 3: No, I think that's something this team needs to get

708
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 3: back to and care about. But just just have to

709
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 3: mention those things briefly quickly.

710
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: A couple more players to talk about here on the

711
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 1: offensive side. Francisco Alvarez, similarly, he's not gonna be starting

712
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: spring training games immediately like everybody else, but at the

713
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: same time, the way that he ended the season, this

714
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: feels like a guy who as long as all the

715
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 1: things are going in the right place, this might be

716
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: the oh shit, uh thirty home runs from Francisco Alvarez.

717
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 1: I'm so bought into the hype of Francisco Aavrez. Just

718
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: stay healthy, stop stop hurting your hand running.

719
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 2: I don't know how he does it so much.

720
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 3: And on top of that too, we never like to

721
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 3: take spring training stats to heart, but there are very

722
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 3: important statistical nuggets you can pull from spring training, like

723
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 3: if Alvarez just pops.

724
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 2: A few like one tens, one elevens, like.

725
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 3: One twelves eggs of last, you're like the boys ready.

726
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 3: Or if you see any like significant reduction in a

727
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 3: spring strike out rate depending on his opponent, quality, like

728
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: he'll still run high swing and misrates. I think he

729
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 3: always will because he takes daddy hacks. We don't need

730
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 3: to be accurate with the stick for taking war hacks

731
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: like Francisco Alva's just make contact when you can. But

732
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 3: if he can be a little bit more accurate with

733
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 3: the stick, if he's striking out a little bit less often,

734
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: like if we see any of.

735
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: Us saw that the second like at the end of

736
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: the year, where he was, oh my god, looks he's

737
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: making more contact, He's hitting for power everywhere.

738
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: This is that freak that we were excited about.

739
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 3: So it's just kind of finding those tiny little things

740
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 3: especially also get back to like what we talked about

741
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 3: with the pictures, like if you see Code I saying

742
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 3: go only come out for two innings every start, every

743
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 3: appearance in the spring and pump ninety nine the whole time.

744
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 3: Maybe he's slided for a piggyback roll. Say similar with

745
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: Sean and I. Maybe the opposite with Tobias Myers or

746
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: Jonah Tongu. It's like whatever, the metro going to tell

747
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 3: us a lot about what the early part of the

748
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: season will look like. The spring, so it's up to

749
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 3: us to kind of take in those hints and figure

750
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 3: it out for ourselves.

751
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 1: Like we saw Clay Holmes throwing four innings like his

752
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: first first, Like you're a starter and that's it, there's

753
00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: no other option, Like.

754
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: You are going. You're going to be a horse because

755
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: we might need you to be, and you had to be.

756
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: He was, yeah, all right, Next guy, Jorge Polanco. I

757
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 1: think this is the opposite corner with Mets go. Two

758
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: different corners, two guys in positions they basically have never

759
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: played before.

760
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: Hori Polanco also.

761
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: Looks rough at first base right now, but time he's

762
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: got time again, he doesn't need to be able to

763
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: play first base out in February eighteenth.

764
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: We need him on March twenty sixth.

765
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: And also they're taking it easy with him too, starting

766
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: up ramping into games because of course he's been riddled

767
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: with injuries in his career as well.

768
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 3: And again just more of this team acquiring depth. It's

769
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 3: like if you have Talkvin in Melendez, like you don't

770
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 3: have to rely on Bret Baiy, which you shouldn't have

771
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: to do to play outfield. So if one of any

772
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 3: of these infielders, we're all really old or always get

773
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 3: hurt go down, like Brett Baty can play any of

774
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 3: their positions.

775
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 2: Mark Fiandros could play first base two.

776
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: I know I've been, you know, dodging him all all offseason,

777
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: pretty much since last year.

778
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 2: But like he's on this team. I actually don't think

779
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: he's going anywhere right now. I'm sorting to thinking, actually

780
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: now he is going somewhere.

781
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: Really, I think when you get guys like talking about

782
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: in Melendez, I think it's just like, I know I

783
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: play first does he no? I know, but right now,

784
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: like babies my bed on the field somewhere in opening day.

785
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: But like maybe that.

786
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,239
Speaker 1: Right handed bat, because those are all lefties that you're

787
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: mentioning one hundred percent, you definitely need the right handed bat.

788
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: That's the one thing that's still saving Mark Fianto's But

789
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: if the only thing that's saving is being a right

790
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: handed a right handed bat with no defensive utility at all,

791
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: it's like, how much are you really being saved? I

792
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: will be telling you this, He's not a player I'm

793
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: watching this spring.

794
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: Don't don't know. I'm not watching Mark Fiantos for a second.

795
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: Don't even I don't even going to watch Team Nicaragua

796
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 3: in the World Baseball Classic. They're I just I think

797
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: he's the best player on the team. It's just it

798
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: says a lot.

799
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then I guess the last one we really

800
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: discussed Obias Myers having his role locked in. The last

801
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: thing we had in our list was just kind of

802
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: the amalgamation of minor leaguers they're going to be in

803
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: spring training this year, Like will Salmon and Justin Willard

804
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: mentioned Ryan Lambert by name. Already, we've seen backfields of

805
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: Dylan Ross throwing VP. We're going to see Christopher Swuaro there,

806
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: who's starting to get the beginning of top one hundred

807
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: prospect buzz. If he looks like a premier athlete on

808
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: a field with major leaguers, then it's like whoa Yes,

809
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: Like if we have Bronx Dalton var Show.

810
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: Love, I'd lose shit show God, that'd be sick.

811
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: Friends of the podcast, Christopher Sware, Same same thing with

812
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 3: a guy like a j Ewing or like Jacob Rimer,

813
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: Like if yeah, like if those guys look like they

814
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: fit in with Ryan Clifford especially too, Like if these

815
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: guys looks like they fit in spring training in at

816
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 3: bats against major league pitchers, it's kind of all systems go,

817
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: We're gonna see we whinger. And also, have you noticed

818
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: the Mets are acquiring an automaunt of catcher depth.

819
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: So many Ben rove is on the team. Austin Barnes.

820
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: Apparently there was a meeting of Mendoza, Willard and Austin

821
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: Barnes discussing code.

822
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: I sang it from one of the salmon pieces.

823
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: Interesting is that because Barnes just caught the Japanese guys

824
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: the last few years, that's a that's a reach.

825
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: I don't know that.

826
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: I got no clue on that, Sylvia. I'm just saying

827
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: it's interesting that, like the fact that Carls Mendoz is

828
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: speaking to Austin Barnes like this much.

829
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: I think by all intensive measures we figured he'd be cut.

830
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: He's either gonna be cut or he's gonna really get

831
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: to know Sarahcuse on a really personal level.

832
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: But is he like I mean, it's like Ben roudfit too.

833
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: It's like these guys don't don't think these guys have options.

834
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 3: I think Barnes is a NRI. I I think broad

835
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: Fitz signed us.

836
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: I think they will go to Triple A.

837
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying like it's either your they're not

838
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: on the major league roster barring an injury.

839
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: No, it's interesting to me how they're we're acquiring this

840
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 3: catcher depth and we still have Luis Trenz like and

841
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 3: Francisco Alvarez. Of course, maybe just probably you probably can't

842
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 3: ever have too many catchers. Remember when Alvarez got hurt

843
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 3: last year at Hayden Sanger. You need to make sure

844
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: you have four catchers that you've heard of on your roster.

845
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: I mean, from that list, who would you rather have,

846
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 3: Ben Ruard Fitt, Hayden Sang, or Austin Barnes.

847
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: Give me Hayden Sanger all day, That's what I'm saying.

848
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: Gim me Hayden Sanger all day.

849
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: So again, maybe it's just clearance for Alvarez, seeing what

850
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: that like, what the injuries look like, seeing if a

851
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: guy will accept a job in Syracuse.

852
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: And also briefly, Ronni Mauricio too, just got to mention him.

853
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: I think if he gets a lot to run at

854
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: short stop this spring training, that tells me a little

855
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: bit more about Francisco indoors injury than I'd like to know.

856
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, way more.

857
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 3: And they also just throw all the bullpen guys in

858
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 3: the mix. Like, let's see if Craig Kimberl has anything left.

859
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: Do you think he does opening day roster? He probably is.

860
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: He's probably just gonna be on the opening a roster

861
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: and get cut, which get it gets cut after, you know,

862
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: the West Coast road trip.

863
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: Basically.

864
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: Robert Stock's been on a wicked heare on Twitter every much.

865
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: Check out Robert Stock. He's hilarious on there again, like

866
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: Joey Gerber, Ause, Cario Carl.

867
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: They have a lot of WBC guys too.

868
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they actually do in this bullpen Mike Bauman, Adbert

869
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 3: Al's lady be a big one to watch as well. Yes,

870
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: let's see if Adbert has his stuff. Nate Lavender still

871
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: has seems like he can be fun, fun and funky

872
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Speaker 3: in a bullpen roll.

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Speaker 2: Like, there's a lot of things. We got a lot

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Speaker 1: And those are our ten players you should watch the

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Speaker 1: most of spring. Thank you guys for watching, Thank you

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Speaker 1: You can follow James on social media at James Ciano

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Speaker 1: and I'm draftnick Mark. We'll catch you guys on the

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Speaker 1: next one. Thank you so much.

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