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Speaker 1: The stat thing doesn't bother me at all. I'm just

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Speaker 1: pulled up his game log here, um quarterbacking change. Yeah no, yeah,

429
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 1: they lost the piece there at quarterback. But I mean

430
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. He he had three games in

431
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 1: the whole year. We didn't rush for over a hundred,

432
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 1: So he's over and I'm talking about I'll just go

433
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 1: through it. One seventy two, one thirty eight, the Washington game.

434
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 1: I was there. That was just a butt kicking. That

435
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 1: Washington front got after him in that game. Washington State.

436
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 1: He was hurt only carried eight times Colorado ninety two,

437
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 1: and then he finishes up the year one eight four,

438
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 1: two oh four and long runs this year in games

439
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 1: forty one thirty three, uh six two. So I don't

440
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: look he rushed for sixteen hundred yards. He just set

441
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 1: the bar soaked insanely high. I just I just wondered,

442
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: like and I knew he was trying to implement some

443
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,719
Speaker 1: Olevan bills like patient since to his game. I just

444
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: wondered in my notes, I wondered if he had the

445
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 1: same burst that he had, because I remember writing down

446
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 1: notes in it looked this is the fastest guy in

447
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: real His zero to sixty is remarkable. Last season, I

448
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 1: didn't see that, and I didn't see the same um

449
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: level of like finishing runs. In terms of running through contact,

450
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 1: I felt like he ran through contact better and that

451
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 1: maybe that was something to do with the knee and

452
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: the ankles and those other stuff. I just felt like

453
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,199
Speaker 1: he was a more dominant prospect than he was the

454
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Speaker 1: previous year. But I agree with you in terms of

455
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: he has everything he can check off the box as

456
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 1: an inside, outside running, catching out the backfield, and in

457
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Speaker 1: the return game. In the system, the right system where

458
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Speaker 1: you don't overload him with too much of anything. He's

459
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Speaker 1: gonna be a headache for somebody. If Mixing doesn't have

460
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: off field, does Mixing go ahead of mccaffley, I think,

461
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be in the mix with for

462
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: that to be the first running back I think. I

463
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: think he's I think he's the best combination of all

464
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: those things with size, and I've compared him to David

465
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: Johnson in terms of how I think he can play

466
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 1: as a pro. I think he can affect you as

467
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Speaker 1: a runner and a receiver. If he didn't have the stuff,

468
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Speaker 1: I think we'll be talking about a guy that, yeah,

469
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: we could say rivals and he would. He would be

470
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Speaker 1: a top fift he would be a top fifteen pick

471
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Speaker 1: at worst. And I've seen you know, you guys have

472
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: done such a great job of talking about players and

473
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 1: breaking them down and all I think I saw something

474
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: from you guys about now. The momentum is starting to

475
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: build a little bit of or at least a scouter

476
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 1: Scouter two has said, you know something, You're gonna catch

477
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: heat no matter where you drafted. Why are you gonna wait? Yeah,

478
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: I mean and let someone else get it? The perfect

479
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if his round one, round seven catch, no question.

480
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 1: That's why I look at what do you do? You

481
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 1: look at the team that Tampa is the team. That's

482
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: the team because you can look at them and where

483
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: they are offensively with a quarterback that's ready to take

484
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: that next step, and you've got you've bringing to Sean

485
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: Jackson a team up with Mike Evans. And if you're again,

486
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna take him in the second round, you're

487
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: gonna get the minds, will go ahead and just take him.

488
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: Get a discount. Yeah, you're gonna get past. You're gonna

489
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: get the heat and throw something on top of that.

490
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: They took Jamie number one in the entire draft when

491
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: it wasn't popular, a lot of stuff going down and

492
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 1: people were like, are you sure in this community? And

493
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 1: they haven't had any issues. Okay, the kid has come

494
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: through for them. He's the unquestioned face of the deal,

495
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: the whole thing. And let's face it, I think they're

496
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: ready to move on from Doug Martin. So here now

497
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: here you get a chance to do this. If anyone's

498
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: gonna take the shot, it could very well be them.

499
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: As you guys have pointed out. But that's kid. You know. Look,

500
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: I get why people don't want to talk about him.

501
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: I get why people don't want to discuss it. I

502
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: think they come draft time, we have to say the

503
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 1: same thing. At least at least I'm of the opinion of,

504
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: let's not forget the young lady. Okay, let's so let's

505
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: remember her as well and remember that and trying because

506
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: because those of us have daughters and other things, this

507
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: is not an easy deal. But he's in a position

508
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 1: where he's quote unquote served as penalty. People at Oklahoma

509
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: vouch for him in a huge, huge way. I mean,

510
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: I had one guy ready to fight me on the

511
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: whole thing. They really believe in this kid. Frank Clark

512
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: was the second rounder right with Seattle. No video though,

513
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: no video, that's the difference. But Frank Clark. We haven't

514
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: had a peep out of Frank Clark in his years

515
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: in Seattle so far. So can people grow up getting better?

516
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: Yes they can. You're taking a gamble quote unquote. At

517
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: the same time, this kid, if people believe in him,

518
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: as you guys have pointed out, this is gonna be

519
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: an interesting deal because we're all, you know, we kind

520
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 1: of went into it a couple of weeks ago, thinking well,

521
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: from second round is when we start talking Joe Mixon.

522
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: We might have that explosion in Philadelphia of his name

523
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: being called in the first round, because you know, there's

524
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: always that whoa, this could be that moment. Yeah, I

525
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked with him. I mean if he went

526
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Speaker 1: in the first round or the fifth round. I mean,

527
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 1: I think it's just kind of it's it's uh, it

528
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 1: really is a simple It's a yes or no with

529
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: a team, you know what I mean, Like you have

530
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: to have that discussion as an organization. We want him

531
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: on our team, and we don't want him on our team.

532
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: We want to deal with this or we don't want

533
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: to deal with this. So once that decision is made,

534
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 1: then it's just about when you know when you want

535
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: to do it. And I think again, the more you

536
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: discuss it and internally, if you're okay with it, then um,

537
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: then I don't know why you would wait. If he's

538
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: a great football player, if if you're okay with it,

539
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: if he if he passes your tests and is acceptable,

540
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: I don't know why you would. Uh, you know, and

541
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: I've made the case the second round to me was

542
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: the that's usually where you see things like this happened. Um,

543
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: but this year, who knows, maybe maybe some team will

544
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: do it in the first Yeah, but Randy, Look, Randy

545
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: Gregory when with all of his stuff still went in

546
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: the second. No, so guys, guys can talk about stuff

547
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: and this is gonna prevent and this, that and everything.

548
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: Second round. As you guys have pointed out, that's kind

549
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: of like your lot of demarcation. But boy, oh boy,

550
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: if we're sitting there in Philadelphia on the first night

551
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,479
Speaker 1: and someone does do this, that will be that moment.

552
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: Because every draft has that first round moment. Last year

553
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: is Laramie Tunsil and the video that hit and end

554
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: up going thirteen when we thought he'd go in the

555
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: top five. What's it gonna be this year? It happens

556
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: every year. There's that one moment where go, oh my god.

557
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 1: You know, poor Brady Quinn. When Ted get Jr. Went

558
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: remember that one to the Dolphins at nine? They still

559
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: see Brady going, Now that's a surprise, and I'm like, whoa.

560
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: And the whole place, you know, the whole place came

561
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: on blue because we thought that was a lock pick.

562
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: Could this be that moment for for this year's draft.

563
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: That would be interesting. Last question here, CD, before we

564
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: let your run. Um, we've had fun in the past

565
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: about the lack of balls. We've got a bunch of

566
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: balls in this year's draft. So you're gonna have your revenge.

567
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: But I need your I need um, I need your

568
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: favorite vall in this draft. And Camar is my favorite.

569
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: Kamar is my favorite. I just think he can do

570
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: everything I see. I see a lot of you know,

571
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: it's a Tennessee connection, but a lot of young Charlie

572
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: Garner and his ability to do a lot of things

573
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: and do them well. And and I think that he's

574
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: my favorite. My major league sleeper is Josh Malone. That's

575
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: Bucky's guy. Buy you guys are on the same team

576
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: on that one. I got a big crush on Josh

577
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: Malone is In terms of players, I think he's underrated. Um.

578
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: I think he's one of those guys that were gonna

579
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: look back and wonder how do we miss on him

580
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: in terms of the lack of conversation, because when I

581
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: watched him this last year, I think he has the

582
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: qualities to be a number one receiver. I think he

583
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: can play the long ball and do all those things,

584
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: but also think he's a pretty good route runner. You

585
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: can run after the catch, And I truly believe, having

586
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: watched him grow from high school all the way through

587
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: his best football as a head and in one of

588
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: those systems that values a tall receiver that can do

589
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: a lot of different things, I think he can emerge

590
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: as a star. Yeah. I've told people in recent recent

591
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: weeks my opinion is he is going to have a bigger,

592
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: better career than Robert Mitchum, who ended up being a

593
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: first round pick, even though more Loan will not be.

594
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: I think he's going to have that. I think they

595
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: have a much better career where you know, to look

596
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: at him and go, that's what we thought meets him

597
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: was gonna be Um with a Justin Hunter, you know

598
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: when as a second round kid, we thought maybe he

599
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: was gonna be that guy. Even Patterson in a way

600
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: in terms of just being a receiver as so much

601
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: more talented, but just never could fit into things like

602
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: you know, look if you put an old school coach

603
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: with Cordarrell Patterson. North Turner was like, uh, I'm not

604
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: spending time just designing stuff for him, And now I

605
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be Oakland's challenge. Okay, just figure out

606
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: way to get the bomb's hands, even if he doesn't

607
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: have a full grasp of everything else in the playbook.

608
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: And when Nor you know, you guys know, Nor, I

609
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: ain't doing not happening, Go return kicks and lead me

610
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: to heck alone. This is where he gets a rebirth.

611
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: But this is where I think Malone, I'm with Bucky

612
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: on this one, So we'll see how it all goes down. Yeah,

613
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: I gave him a I gave him a sixty three,

614
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: which is like a second round grade as a wide receiver.

615
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: Were my only two concerns with him. Number one, getting

616
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 1: off press is gonna be a little bit of an

617
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: issue for him. At number two, I didn't think he

618
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: was gonna help you as a special teamer. So if

619
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna make your team and beyond your team and

620
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: be a contributor, he's gonna have to be a number

621
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: two or at number three, because he's not gonna be

622
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: your number four, because I don't really see him covering kicks, right.

623
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: But but as Bucky said, if he developed to that

624
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: level that Bucky sees and not have to worry about

625
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: covering those kids, Yeah. Yeah, there you go off the

626
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: hook on that one. There you go, well have the uh,

627
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: the time you spent with us, were very grateful. C D.

628
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: Philadelphia is gonna be here before you know it, and

629
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: uh and we'll see out there. Looking forward to getting

630
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: some good meals. Yeah, it's looking forward to seeing you guys.

631
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: You guys, keep kicking butt on past to the draft.

632
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: Keep educating everybody out there. I love this is a

633
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: tweet you're putting out and all the other stuff. I'm

634
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: trying to learn from him too. I'm sitting here with

635
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: a bound the paper now that I printed out, trying

636
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: to read you guys stuff so I can be up

637
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: and educated so we can get to Philadelphia and then

638
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,479
Speaker 1: find the off the off the wall, Chief Steak. Yes,

639
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: that's not that's not a change. Yeah, we're not going

640
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: to good one. We're going local. We're going local. And

641
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: by the way, local, I'm gonna call fran Duffie from

642
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Are we go and it's at cfdo correct, Charles, Yes, sir,

643
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: look forward to it. Guys. Thanks for the time you guys.

644
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: Keep kicking. But okay, see if DJE all right, we'llvey man,

645
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: We'll see you soon. That's Charles Davis, one of our favorites, um,

646
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: longtime friend, Tennessee volunteer, proud volunteer. It's gonna be a

647
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: better draft for him this year. Lots of volunteers coming

648
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: off the board. Oh, he should be excited because they're

649
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: a ton. We didn't even talk about the guy that

650
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: probably go first, Derek Barnett. But he's right. And I

651
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: think if I'm a vol fan, if I'm a VFL,

652
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: isn't that what hashtag VFL hashtag vfla for whatever? No,

653
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it just came out. It came out incorrect.

654
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: But if I if I'm a volunteer, I might be

655
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: a little salty if they have all these NFL picks

656
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: and we're not winning. Very salty, boys, very salty. You

657
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: want to see you guys, want to see a professional

658
00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: transition here? Yes, quarterback of Tennessee name cohtops josh Dobbs,

659
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: Joshua Dobbs. Who'd he beat out? Oh? He beat out

660
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman. Nathan Peterman went to and Nathan Peterman's running

661
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: back James Connor. James Conner, James Connor is going to

662
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: join us right now. I got a special guest here

663
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: Pitt running back, James Connor, James, what's going on? Man

664
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: at the musch Buss? How you doing good man? We'll

665
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: put you through the car wash today. Huh. We got

666
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: a couple of TV shows. Now we're throwing you in

667
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: the studio here. It's all a blessing though. I'm thankful

668
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: for you're seeing good shape because you know not, I

669
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: don't see any sweat. I don't see you first. Bring

670
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: it all. You're ready to go here? Hey, look, everybody

671
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: knows you're off the field store. I don't want to

672
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to go there. Everybody just has read

673
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: about it. It's a it's a fantastic it's amazing story.

674
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: But I want to talk to some football with you

675
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: and a chance. We've talked off the year, and I've

676
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: talked about how I describe your your running style. Just

677
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: like you're thirsty for contact, you are a physical, physical back.

678
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: How would you describe your running style the same way?

679
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: Just you know it all starts with the huddle called

680
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: when you you know you're getting the ball, and then

681
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 1: from that point on it's just you know you got

682
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: the whole team counting on you, and so man, just

683
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: lowering that shoulder, just filling, unstoppable, really anything that's in

684
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: your way, just those chains, so breaking tackles, chart of

685
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: the contact, all that good stuff. Give me. I don't

686
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be this year, could be any

687
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: time doing your college career. A couple of things. Number one,

688
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: give me your favorite huddle call? What what? What? What? Run?

689
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: You prefer the best? Um my wash fire rat Panther.

690
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: And that was when we had a tight end in

691
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: our guard pooling. I'm just taking my drop step finding

692
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 1: a whole one hit a gap out. That was with

693
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: coach Chris offense man, just with the Hogs up front.

694
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: We just you know, as I go to Andy play

695
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: that that play work for us. So that was fire

696
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: Rat Panther, patient to explode through right patients. Yeah, exactly, slow,

697
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: too fast, that's what we say. But yeah, say the

698
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: same dame thing, speaking the same language there. What what

699
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: about a run? Give me your signature run. We got

700
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: a chance to see. We talked about this. What you

701
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: did the tankers really from Clemson wasn't that wasn't cool, man.

702
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what he did to you, but what

703
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: you did to him on the edge of where you

704
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: ran him over, I know you had some have some

705
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: physical runs against safety from Penn Staton and others. But

706
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: what's your favorite run from this year? From this year? Easy? First, Clemson,

707
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: we were down by a touchdown five minutes left in

708
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: the game and I got it was a choice left

709
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: which like of our quarterback option to either give it

710
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: to me. It was a cut inside, don't put out

711
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: the gun, or he could pass it through the flat.

712
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: He gave it to me and I could jump cut

713
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: and I was in a hole and I got the

714
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: whole real fast. I threw a stiff arming and I

715
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: I scored and it was just an emotional, uh you know,

716
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: rough of me because with everything I've been through, it

717
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: was hard for my stamina and everything for me to play,

718
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, a full game, but that only five minutes

719
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: left in the game for me to have that big

720
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: run verse Clemson at their place, Man, it was just

721
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: I'll never forget that run. How quiet that stadium gif

722
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: It got quiet well, but our our fans travel well

723
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: for that one. And we had a we had a

724
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: little smaller section up top. You can hear him and

725
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: hit him screaming. So man, it was awesome. Was something

726
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: I always remember, all right, give me a running back

727
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: you padding your game after NFL guy easy. Marshawn Lynch

728
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: the whole reason why I were in be twenty four

729
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: and just every snap, you know, something some special, whether

730
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: it's just a stiff farm anything, it's just you know,

731
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: he refuses to go down and I just love it.

732
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: And I just tried to have that beast momentality. This

733
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 1: is why, this is why I feel like I should

734
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: buy a lottery ticket Boys behind the Glass, because said

735
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: I want to. I said, I want to talk about

736
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: a running back that James reminds me of. And so

737
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: I said, we had we got a little bit of time,

738
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: go get some footage. I need some footage of this

739
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: running back right here. And it was Marshawn Lynch. And

740
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: I said, I said, you watch, He's gonna say his

741
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: favorite back because of his style is this guy right here.

742
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: I mean just the steps to speed, you know, he's

743
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: covering ground. Didn't run the fastest for you, I didn't

744
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: run the fastest forty you know, but he's just moving

745
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: those chains and defenders do not want to tackle him

746
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: and he wear them down in the fourth quarter. That's

747
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: when those that's when we make our money. Yeah, we

748
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: talked about making your money in the fourth quarter. He

749
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: is the one of the best four minute backs, and

750
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: talk about that. The importance of being able to have

751
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: that hammer. You gotta lead. You need to salt the

752
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: game away exactly for you to close the game, and

753
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: you don't. You just want to two hands on the

754
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: ball and just keep moving to his chains, get first

755
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: down and so eventually we can just take a knee

756
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: and steal the game. So it's very important to have

757
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: that hog, that horse that can you know, close the

758
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: game for you, all right. Me and Bucky were in

759
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: here as as former scouts. We always talk about the

760
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: most important aspects in each position. So your position, the

761
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: running back position, what do you think characteristic eyes? The

762
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: number one most important characters boss security, because you got

763
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: the whole the whole team with you when you have

764
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: the ball. And coach Canada my my office, Curitier's past season.

765
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: Every day we're Pattison ball security. And that's what he

766
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: would preach. I mean, you turnovers, you can't have them.

767
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: You know, you won't win games like that. So the

768
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: main thing is boss security. Ken, go onto the ball.

769
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you down the list. Now give me

770
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: number two. That's the most important. You got to hold

771
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: onto the rock. What's number two in terms of what

772
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: you want to running back to have this skill set

773
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: you want him to have. What is uh, what'll be said,

774
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: like I always say the brick and tackles and everything,

775
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 1: but you gotta protect your quarterback. That pass protection because

776
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: you know you can't let him get no no big

777
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: shot took on him. So I'll be able to pass

778
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: protect um. But that's just you know, something that you

779
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: need to be able to do. But it's charateristics. I

780
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: would say, you know, the first was bass security and second, uh,

781
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: this is what I go vision. You're right, Yeah, I

782
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: said that too. I was thinking of that. You're there,

783
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: You're you're there. Yeah, I mean because but you've got

784
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: good vision, of course, thank you appreciate. I mean, well,

785
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Look, I've always said when you're when

786
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: you're scouting running backs, I don't care if you're big,

787
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: can fast, if you run in the back of your

788
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: offensive line, that ain't helping me. Yeah, you're not doing

789
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: no good doing that sell vision. I mean, if you

790
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: have to be able to see the whole and make

791
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: the best decision, and you have to do it fast too,

792
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, ball security, end vision. That's a pretty good,

793
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: pretty good combination there. What what is the an NFL

794
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: team you're going to? Is there a fan? Are you

795
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: a fan of a particular team? Like you're gonna be

796
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: excited wherever you get. Course, but I don't give me

797
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: that canned answer, So give me the this team called

798
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna be like you guys are not gonna believe

799
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: who this is? Right? A couple of I would love

800
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: growing up, I was a Cowboys fan, crowding me. But

801
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: Zeke is doing a great job over there, so I

802
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: don't think they need one. Um. Steelers will be awesome.

803
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: I've I'm familiar with hans Field, you know, it's close

804
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: to my home. So of Erie, Pennsylvania. Who was marsha

805
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: a Seattle? I would love to go to Seattle. I

806
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: know they just got Lacey, you know, but you can

807
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: still go anywhere I learn, so, you know, but anybody

808
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: that I'm now, I'm giving you that answer that that

809
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, no, no, no, you can teams. That's more

810
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: teams than I thought I would get from you. That's great. Yeah,

811
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: but anybody you know who who who takes me just

812
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: they get they getting the ballplayer. This is a draft

813
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 1: that's loaded in running backs. Have you have you watched

814
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: or studied any of these other guys? Maybe just when

815
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: you have it all off week or something. So give me,

816
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: give me your quick scouting report on a couple of

817
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: backs in this draft. Pick whatever ones you want, um,

818
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: and trust me as any good players should. When we've

819
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: talked before, you believe you're the best guy. Of course

820
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: I get that, But tell me about some of these

821
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: other dudes. Well this it was awesome having the advice

822
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: of the combine to see those guys up close in

823
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: person and get to know them personally. UM. For net

824
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: Is obviously, you know, a beast with this heightway his speed,

825
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: you know, and his tape doesn't allow either. Dalvin is

826
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: liable to do anything at any moment, you know, take

827
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: it to the house, break tackles. McCaffrey is is awesome.

828
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: His routes were so crisp at the comboy, you know,

829
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: just watching like wow, I gave him. Uh. He texted

830
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: me after he said, I'm a fan of you and

831
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: I was been a fan of you, you know, for

832
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: everything that he's done. And so yeah, those guys, man,

833
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: they're just they did their ball players as well, and

834
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: it was it was funny get to know him more.

835
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Mall right. This is something we've done

836
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: with every every prospect that we bring through here here.

837
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: So I talked about before. We more about the all

838
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: the field stuff, but is the three questions we hit up,

839
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: who's your hero, what's the greatest highlight of your career,

840
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: and what's the biggest hardship you've overcome? Now you have

841
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: a unique story hardship front, so I'll let you tackle

842
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: that here. Yeah, the hardship Hudgens foma cancer easily, uh,

843
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: the biggest thing I've overcome in my life. UM, thankful for.

844
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: If I could go back, I wouldn't change the thing

845
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: in my life because it made me a better person.

846
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: And this taught me to be grateful for everything in life,

847
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, no matter how small it is, is is be

848
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: grateful for it. And the game of football. I'll always

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Speaker 1: cherry ship and I'm so passionate about it because it

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Speaker 1: was almost tooken from me. So any anybody who who

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Speaker 1: drafts me is is going to get a passionate guy.

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Speaker 1: How about now, let's go to your highlight, your greatest highlight,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to beat the Clemson win. Yeah, is that

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Speaker 1: the one? Or is there something else I'm not thinking

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Speaker 1: of overall? Clemson Pence date was just because the rivalry

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Speaker 1: the last we play up and so now sixteen years

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Speaker 1: later for us to when they brought back that rivalry

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Speaker 1: and for us to bring home you know, being you know,

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Speaker 1: the best in p A. That was a special one

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Speaker 1: that I remember in the Clemson win, for them to

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Speaker 1: be national champions and us the only team that beat them,

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Speaker 1: I'll remember that one too. So was there a text

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Speaker 1: change with your teammates when Clemson won the whole thing

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Speaker 1: between you come on, Yeah, we said we said we

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Speaker 1: need to ring national champ and were the Rose Bowl chance? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: There you got both of them. That's right, That's right.

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Speaker 1: How about now your hero could be anybody could be

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Speaker 1: on the field, off the field. Just who's your hero?

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Speaker 1: My brothers, um, I can't put one above the other one.

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Speaker 1: Just those guys just raised me. They really ones who

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Speaker 1: raised me, made me the maname today. Just anything I

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Speaker 1: needed with my whole life security. They were just there

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Speaker 1: for me, mentors, role models, everything and that just there's

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Speaker 1: no James Corner and I'm here. I get all this,

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Speaker 1: you know, attention on the medium, on NFL Total Access here,

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Speaker 1: But without those guys in my life, none of that's possible.

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Speaker 1: So all of those guys, it's very cool though. You

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Speaker 1: were one of my favorite players to watch again. Angry,

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Speaker 1: violent and I don't know what Tankersley did from this

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Speaker 1: guy off nasty, what you did to him? Anyways, that's

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Speaker 1: James Connor. James thinks somethingout, Bucky. James Conner one of

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Speaker 1: the one of the easier guys to root for in

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Speaker 1: this draft class. Very easy root for a guy that

884
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Speaker 1: has overcome a lot. He has come back and not

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Speaker 1: only just kind of beat the cancer, but he's come back.

886
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Speaker 1: He made a very productive player. I would be excited

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Speaker 1: to hear his name called on draft day because I

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Speaker 1: think they're not only getting a special player, but especially

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Speaker 1: young man with the right kind of stuff inside. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be uh, he's gonna be somebody's

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Speaker 1: fans are gonna fall in love with. His style, just

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Speaker 1: a physical, physical football player, Bucky, question for you, what

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Speaker 1: you got what's the first thing you put on the

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Speaker 1: last thing you take off who you know, normally, on

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Speaker 1: the most circumstances, I would say my socks, but I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say it's actually it's actually your underwear. Really, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's your I don't know how to get down like that.

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Speaker 1: You need to make your most important piece of clothing

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Speaker 1: that with me. Andy's what what is me? Andy's me?

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Speaker 1: And let me just tell you what me Andy's is.

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Speaker 1: pretty daruncomfortable, Bucky. They come in classic colors, bullshades, adventurous patterns,

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Speaker 1: and I know you like the adventurous patterns. You can

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Speaker 1: Andy's dot com slash NFL seventeen. Meet Andy's dot com

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Speaker 1: slash NFL team. All right, Buck, It's great to have

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Speaker 1: cd On here. He's doing great. Look forward to seeing

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Speaker 1: him in Philadelphia. H James Conner again a stud I

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Speaker 1: gotta talk a lot about these quarterbacks. We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: back later on this week with a jam packed episode.

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Speaker 1: You've got a brand new mock draft coming out. I'm

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Speaker 1: excited about it. I'm excited about letting the twitter verse

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Speaker 1: come at me over some hypotheticals. Yeah, they will, they

928
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Speaker 1: will get fired up. I like, I like, did you

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Speaker 1: see my tweet? By the way, which one draft? So

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Speaker 1: the NFL account sent out a link to my mock

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Speaker 1: draft six mock draft four point oh. So I retweeted

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Speaker 1: and say, you're an idiot. This is the dumbest thing

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Speaker 1: I've We're not taking that guy clip the script everybody's

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Speaker 1: it was right. Beat him to the punch. Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was like a little in sption. I got plenty

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Speaker 1: before before we get out of here. Um Myles Garrett,

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Speaker 1: potential number one pick, had an interview with ESPN. Uh

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Speaker 1: does this concern or or does this suck you up

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Speaker 1: as a as a as a franchise? He said, uh,

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Speaker 1: and and because if you don't drop me at number one,

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Speaker 1: I will punish your team for the next ten to

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Speaker 1: twelve years. I'll knock your QB out of the game

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Speaker 1: every time we play you, and I'll have to kick

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Speaker 1: the hell out of number one, whoever it is. I'm

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Speaker 1: cool with that. Yeah, a lot was made too. I

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Speaker 1: guess he was supposed to go on ESPN Radio with

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Speaker 1: Mike and Mike with Booger and then U. He canceled

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Speaker 1: because Booger had been critical of him. Bugger he likes Barnett,

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Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, he's also been pretty open about you.

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Speaker 1: Can you cancel because he didn't want to face Booger.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of the story. I was told. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: you know all the particulars on this. He gave consensitive

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Speaker 1: like that. If he's gonna be done more and pick.

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Speaker 1: He has to be able to stand up in front

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Speaker 1: of Mike and take it, take it, take I'll take

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Speaker 1: some heat. Maybe he's just not a Mic and Mike fan.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, you know he's taking heat

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Speaker 1: and and and they're not teams aren't giving him passes?

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Speaker 1: So why why do it? And why not do it

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Speaker 1: in the media as well? At least it's interesting. We

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Speaker 1: gott get some more information on that. Yeah, I got

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Speaker 1: to talk to Booger. I gotta get Booger call and

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Speaker 1: find out what happened there. Um, all right, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: your way, along with another audio episode later this week.

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