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Speaker 1: your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holley, and Shannon Gross.
Speaker 1: It is Victory Monday, and I'm talking serious victory Monday.
Speaker 1: And I gotta say, Alex shaverro last night he said,
Speaker 1: Victory Monday can't be the usual. It needs to be
Speaker 1: something special and different. And Alex, I'm afraid you have
Speaker 1: got your wish because this is gonna be different. I
Speaker 1: am at home, sitting in the big boy chair for
Speaker 1: our man Shannon Gross, who is god knows where. Jesse
Speaker 1: is having some technical issues trying to get dial in.
Speaker 1: But the star of man, I'm here, I'm here, all right,
Speaker 1: he's here here. And of course we've got the star
Speaker 1: of the show, our man Nate Newton, is in studio.
Speaker 1: He's ready to roll. So what do you boys think?
Speaker 1: How you guys doing on this Victory Monday? Man, I'm
Speaker 1: saying I'm great man. What is said to five degrees?
Speaker 1: The Frisco is partly clouded. We don't have a big
Speaker 1: screen of whom because we don't have Shannon in his
Speaker 1: huge head to reflect it off of a huge head.
Speaker 1: Nice if you guys, you guys are covered from that
Speaker 1: beat down last night. I am ecstatic. I think this
Speaker 1: is what we've all been wanting to see. We've seen
Speaker 1: this defense play really well the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: and we've finally seen this offense kind of get back
Speaker 1: to its original and what we thought they would be
Speaker 1: throughout the entire year. This was, this was what we
Speaker 1: wanted and this is what you should do. Two lesser
Speaker 1: than teams. They had a short week. You know, they
Speaker 1: were missing some guys due to COVID. That's just the
Speaker 1: norm of what the National Football League is right now.
Speaker 1: But the one thing that I will say that was
Speaker 1: for me was the most important thing was you know,
Speaker 1: Amari came out early in the week and he was
Speaker 1: vocal about, Hey, I need to get the ball more
Speaker 1: like that's just what it is, like, get me the rock.
Speaker 1: And he said it so eloquently. But he basically did
Speaker 1: what Keishaw did many many years ago. Throw me to
Speaker 1: dan ball like third downs, throw me to dan ball.
Speaker 1: We got red zo woes. Throw me to dan ball.
Speaker 1: In between throw me to Dan ball, and I promise
Speaker 1: you when you throw me the dann ball, everybody else
Speaker 1: will eat as well. We cede Land found his hands
Speaker 1: last night. The old line looked good. We had some
Speaker 1: good verse in the running game. I mean offensively, we
Speaker 1: saw them get back into a groove. But you know what,
Speaker 1: as an offensive guy, as a receiver, I still gotta say,
Speaker 1: Kurt and and and Nat him and Chris, this is
Speaker 1: still a defensive led team. Without a shout over doubt.
Speaker 1: This team is led by the defense. And they showed
Speaker 1: up and they showed out again last night on the
Speaker 1: defensive of the ball. So I am ecstatic. I was
Speaker 1: so happy what I saw last night. It gave me
Speaker 1: a ton of confidence. And now we had to just
Speaker 1: continue that trend heading into January. Yeah, man, you've been
Speaker 1: talking here for a few weeks about need to see
Speaker 1: the complete game. I think you gave him an eight
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. What what what was this? That was?
Speaker 1: That was as the eruption rast last night? Man, that
Speaker 1: that was big time that right there. Man, I just
Speaker 1: saw upset that one young man is not on this
Speaker 1: show because he's the one been needed to see it,
Speaker 1: you know, mister head so large, Shannon Gross is the
Speaker 1: one that needed to see it. Me. I've been, I've been.
Speaker 1: You guys know, I've been saying it's coming, it's building. Now.
Speaker 1: What I did need was for our receivers not drop
Speaker 1: the ball. I don't need I don't need our receivers
Speaker 1: to drop the ball. That did not happen. We needed
Speaker 1: for our offensive line to be a little bit more consistent.
Speaker 1: That did happen, and uh that quarterback to get something,
Speaker 1: miss swag back. We saw a little bit of that.
Speaker 1: So I'm happy they're building. They got a good team
Speaker 1: coming up this week, somebody that is an equal talent.
Speaker 1: It'll be a little dog fight because the other team
Speaker 1: need to win. I'm just man, like I said, I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm doing Jess the thing. I'm just beating the desk. Man.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just happy go ahead on the top
Speaker 1: with Jesse so I can beat the desk. You know
Speaker 1: something else that we saw last night, you know, Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott four rushes for twenty one yards and no it's
Speaker 1: not it's not the Lamar Jackson one hundred yard rushing game,
Speaker 1: Kolin Murray busting off a sixty yard run. But what
Speaker 1: it was is we finally saw our quarterback running. Like
Speaker 1: when the pocket breaks down, when things get a little
Speaker 1: bit hey wired, it's okay for you to tuck the
Speaker 1: ball and go get some yards. You know, coming into
Speaker 1: this game, I think he had like four first downs
Speaker 1: via his legs, and he had three of them. He
Speaker 1: had three more last night. So those little things, we're
Speaker 1: not asking Dak to be Lamar Jaskin Jackson. We're not
Speaker 1: asking Dak to be Hell. We're not even asking him
Speaker 1: to be Josh Allen as far as athleticism, right, we're
Speaker 1: just saying, and we're just all screaming, hey bro, when
Speaker 1: that pocket breaks down or that eternal clock goes off
Speaker 1: in your head, tuck that bad boy and go get
Speaker 1: three yards. Right, three positive yards is much better than
Speaker 1: a four yard sack or a four strow down field. Right,
Speaker 1: every time, you don't have to be greedy. He mentioned
Speaker 1: that a couple weeks ago about you know, sometimes I
Speaker 1: get a little bit greedy trying to make the big
Speaker 1: players the knockout blows. But go get go, get that
Speaker 1: four yard run, Go get that three yard run because
Speaker 1: what you do now is you put in the back
Speaker 1: of the mind of those defenders, linebackers, burning backers specifically
Speaker 1: that you know what, he will tuck it and run
Speaker 1: because they haven't seen any remnants of that this year,
Speaker 1: so they're able to play back and coverage more so
Speaker 1: than than not. But when you go out there and
Speaker 1: you show them that, we will go out there and
Speaker 1: throw the ball and we'll run the ball and when
Speaker 1: everything else fails, I will tuck this bad boy and
Speaker 1: go get four or five positive yards. That for me,
Speaker 1: it was another positive thing to see from him. But
Speaker 1: he had the longest rush for thirty last night. Yeah
Speaker 1: last night. Yeah, I think I think David Hellman had
Speaker 1: written something in a in a mail bag column online
Speaker 1: about Dak's rushing and you know, and he said, you
Speaker 1: don't need a bunch of yards from Dad. If you
Speaker 1: get twenty yards from Dak, that could be three four
Speaker 1: first downs, which moves the chains. That's all you need
Speaker 1: out of him. Like you said, Jesse, that's another threat.
Speaker 1: That kind of opened things up. Wow, man, Like you said, Jesse,
Speaker 1: that could be another threat. This is good to see, Jess.
Speaker 1: I mean, he won't shut ahead me and me and Kurt.
Speaker 1: Me and Kurt have been trying to come bring the
Speaker 1: world back. With such a divide in the world, Hurt
Speaker 1: and nir on ourselves to bring you see what my
Speaker 1: shirt says. My shirt says unity, right, Me and Kurt
Speaker 1: had been trying to bring back America one show at
Speaker 1: a time. He's trying to separate us. You always trying
Speaker 1: to suit you got Kurt and I are trying to
Speaker 1: bring back together. You're preaching, and every preaching needs the
Speaker 1: deacon to be able to say take it preaching that is,
Speaker 1: that is. I'm just keep going, Kurt. What's your next
Speaker 1: question to your pastor? Oh Man? Sticking with Dak, I
Speaker 1: thought overall he looked sharper. I mean, it passes, looked harder.
Speaker 1: You know, he's throwing harder. He just had better accuracy.
Speaker 1: What happened? What the sudden What was the sudden change?
Speaker 1: Is the guys on the on TV suggested that maybe
Speaker 1: he did find a mechanical thing that he corrected. What
Speaker 1: did you guys see? What was the difference here? The
Speaker 1: chance I'm coming around, Okay, I'm gonna give you a chance.
Speaker 1: You know, I think I think one of the things
Speaker 1: that they did, um and we I talked about this
Speaker 1: a week or so ago of just sometimes during the season,
Speaker 1: guys go back and they get with their personal trainers
Speaker 1: or whoever they work out with in the off season,
Speaker 1: and they do they do some tune ups, and we
Speaker 1: we we heard that they were doing some ax or
Speaker 1: reps after practice. They initially said that it was, oh,
Speaker 1: it was just because practices are shorter, but they made
Speaker 1: an as certain effort to go out there with receivers,
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks, with running backs, the starters Dak and Amari
Speaker 1: and TD and those guys and get some reps after practice.
Speaker 1: And again, we all know that Dak has the dackyard
Speaker 1: and he has the big football film his own backyard.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure I don't I don't know for sure,
Speaker 1: but I want to say I know for sure that
Speaker 1: he made a fun call and said, listen, I need
Speaker 1: I need some help and called in Tom House or
Speaker 1: whoever it is that he works, Whitney off, He's gonna
Speaker 1: come to the Dackyard and get some more working on
Speaker 1: his mechanics. And I think the way that Keller Moore
Speaker 1: health and was you saw much more up tempo last night, right,
Speaker 1: you saw them saying we're gonna get to the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. We're gonna get out there. And a lot
Speaker 1: of his early throws, they were down the field throws,
Speaker 1: they were quick out there, thank you, hitches, they were
Speaker 1: things right right over in front of his face. So
Speaker 1: those weren't passes that necessarily you got to have a
Speaker 1: ton of accuracy to connect with. But those are passes
Speaker 1: that when you see them complete, it gives you confidence
Speaker 1: and it gives you a little bit of momentum to
Speaker 1: continue on the progression of the day. Thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. You know, Jesse is so on point. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's amazing how Dak found his swag and Jess has
Speaker 1: found his at the same time. Wow, we called, he
Speaker 1: called some people, he called home house. I called my therapist.
Speaker 1: So he's been working out. You know, he got he
Speaker 1: got the Dak yard. You know, I got the basement.
Speaker 1: So we both been working on with our individual people,
Speaker 1: just trying to get our swag back. That I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you, this is what's so amazing to me, Jesson,
Speaker 1: to Kurt is the fact that we went out there
Speaker 1: and within the first series offensively and they were gonna
Speaker 1: try a trick play and lose all that yardage. And
Speaker 1: once again, we talked about it last week, what did
Speaker 1: it take to get us going? It's our defense. Can
Speaker 1: you believe that Heineke is that his name? Yep? Yeah,
Speaker 1: can you believe he say, you know what, I got
Speaker 1: a fifty fifty guy and I'm gonna try Diggs. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run a fly route and I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: Diggs and I'm gonna open this game up. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: break the game over that dude. That gotta be a
Speaker 1: Joe man. I told y'all two weeks. But but that
Speaker 1: ran didn't work. That's even more funny. You know, it's
Speaker 1: even you know, it's even more funny, Nate, is that
Speaker 1: heine Key said that, and there was an offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: in the head coach that said, you know what, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that idea, right, you know, let's do it.
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, because when you look at you know,
Speaker 1: with Terry McLaurin in the way that he played, he's
Speaker 1: been played against the Cowboys, he's been basically shut down
Speaker 1: and having got the reps, I think he I think
Speaker 1: he was having the same conversation that A Barry was
Speaker 1: having this year. The difference is the difference is you know,
Speaker 1: and this is no shade to Tyler heine Key, but
Speaker 1: there's some shade in this, but it's no shade to him.
Speaker 1: The difference between the two ways. And I think Terry
Speaker 1: mclorin is an absolute stud as a receiver. You got
Speaker 1: to do with who was on his sister couch a
Speaker 1: lot of year. You got to dude who were paying
Speaker 1: seventy five million dollars too. That's the difference. There's a
Speaker 1: complete difference. So when you start, you start one of
Speaker 1: the attack dudes. When you start one of the attack dudes,
Speaker 1: you know down the field. I much rather have And
Speaker 1: like the way my quarterback and my office the quarter
Speaker 1: that went about getting our number one the damn ball,
Speaker 1: opposed to how their officsive quarter and their quarterback chose
Speaker 1: to get their number one receiver the ball first play
Speaker 1: go round on this, I'm like, you could have picked
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, you could have picked Kelvin Joseph. Don't kep Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: don't don't go at the big dollar right off the gate,
Speaker 1: like at least warm up a little bit. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm the little four player. You just try to rip
Speaker 1: the pennies right off. They were obviously hoping to make
Speaker 1: a stay and obviously trying to make a statement. Sorry, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: hey man, you missed that out, Kurt. But anyway, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something, you know, you know what kind
Speaker 1: of this is what I've been waiting on for three
Speaker 1: or four weeks. I'm saying because some Maari's talk doing
Speaker 1: training camp more than he ever has, and I'm waiting, like,
Speaker 1: how long would Amari just be ignored? I mean for
Speaker 1: him to you know, to do it in the in
Speaker 1: the correct way. He didn't crush nobody, he didn't go
Speaker 1: at nobody. But uh, you Panics due a million dollars
Speaker 1: a game, and you ain't gonna throw him the ball
Speaker 1: that that that did not Let's let's yeah, let's uh,
Speaker 1: let's take a break, take a break, get some sponsors.
Speaker 1: Can I beat the drum? Will come back? Can I
Speaker 1: beat the drums? Going out fast? How about that? Uh? Well, Uh,
Speaker 1: we gotta come back and talk about amorrow. We need
Speaker 1: to get into that defense a little more. Still a
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Speaker 1: I am in Kurt Daniels in the big boy chair
Speaker 1: for our man Shannon Gross, who, as our buddy Philip says,
Speaker 1: is probably off canceling his trip to Mexico. But we've
Speaker 1: got the gospel Jesse in one corner. We've got the drummer,
Speaker 1: our man, Nate Newton in the studio, drumming all mad
Speaker 1: All Madden, Newton, All Madden, Nate Newton. I can't ask
Speaker 1: for better than that. Yeah, I gotta go see coach
Speaker 1: after this. Yes you do, Yes you do, Yes you do.
Speaker 1: But before the break there you go, I go, yeah,
Speaker 1: don't ask, don't ask that. You know where at Leeds,
Speaker 1: you know what happens. All right, let's get back into it.
Speaker 1: Before the break, you had brought up Maury Cooper again. Um,
Speaker 1: he came out last Thursday, and I believe on our
Speaker 1: flagship station and admitted he was frustrated, he wanted to
Speaker 1: see more targets. We haven't really had a chance to
Speaker 1: talk about that. What did you guys first think when
Speaker 1: you heard that? And then going into last night's game.
Speaker 1: Were you impressed with what happened? I guess I was
Speaker 1: so happy. I was. I'm like, you know, Jess, backb
Speaker 1: here and we've been saying, it's only two people on
Speaker 1: our team that can dictate coverage and one haven't been
Speaker 1: able to dictate none recently. And that's that's that's Zeke.
Speaker 1: The other guy that can dictate coverage is a mari
Speaker 1: Because when a Marii catches on fire, they gotta they
Speaker 1: gotta double team him or shade him somehow, some way.
Speaker 1: And I was so happy that he spoke up and
Speaker 1: now him to kell him Oh, kellibatan calling great plays. No,
Speaker 1: he figured out if I thought a mari a whole
Speaker 1: lot of plays gonna work right and wrong. Jess, No, absolutely.
Speaker 1: And the thing is about being an officer coordinator, A
Speaker 1: lot of times you don't have to come up with
Speaker 1: these great extravagant plays where guys are looping and cut
Speaker 1: the turning. No, just get the ball to the really
Speaker 1: good guy like that A lot of times alleviate you
Speaker 1: having to have these magical plays, right, get thee get
Speaker 1: the ball to the guy who has been a perennial
Speaker 1: pro bowler. Get the ball to the guy who's one
Speaker 1: of the best route runners in the league. To Nate's point,
Speaker 1: also get the guy to get the guy to the ball.
Speaker 1: You're paying a million dollars to There's no way in
Speaker 1: the world that the Marty Cooper should be top three
Speaker 1: in salary and bottom third of the league and targets
Speaker 1: that and he's actually playing in games that doesn't even
Speaker 1: make any sense. And you watch teams around the league,
Speaker 1: you watch you know when when Tom Brady is what
Speaker 1: god Win and Evans. Antonio Brown has missed the last
Speaker 1: three games from suspension, in the last four games before that,
Speaker 1: of three games before that with injury. This first game back,
Speaker 1: his first game back, he has ten catches for over
Speaker 1: one hundred yards in a touchdown. You get the ball
Speaker 1: to the best players as much as you possibly can
Speaker 1: because they can do special things. So you don't get
Speaker 1: for Kelly More. You don't have to be the boy wonder,
Speaker 1: just be the smart boy and get it to nineteen
Speaker 1: and get it to the guys who please. What do
Speaker 1: you think about that? Right? Impressed? Oh yeah, freaking he's preaching.
Speaker 1: I love it. When I was impressed though, because we
Speaker 1: saw this back in the day. I mean, Dez Bryant,
Speaker 1: you know, he wouldn't let it be known that he
Speaker 1: wanted the ball, and you saw games where Romo forced
Speaker 1: it in there and it just didn't work well. For
Speaker 1: whatever reason, they couldn't connect. But and so I was
Speaker 1: a little worried coming in this game that that same
Speaker 1: thing might happen. But obviously, for whatever reason, it clicked
Speaker 1: right from the start. I mean I think at least
Speaker 1: three or four times in those first two drives he
Speaker 1: went to Cooper. Obviously the first play of the game,
Speaker 1: he went to Cooper. They tried that little pitch back
Speaker 1: to him, Cedric Wilson, I mean they it was obviously
Speaker 1: going to be a focus, and like you said it,
Speaker 1: it opened everything up, which was amazing. One is the
Speaker 1: route running, another one's not. That's the simple fact. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not going back, and you didn't get it. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm not going back. What do you think, Jess, No,
Speaker 1: I agree with you, and you know, to continue on
Speaker 1: on the Mary Cooper topic. You know, like you said, Kurt,
Speaker 1: when you get him involved, other guy gets involved. I mean,
Speaker 1: when was the last time that you saw a team
Speaker 1: have more than I think five guys over fifty yards,
Speaker 1: like five guys had over fifty yards receiving, right, and
Speaker 1: now what what what? Also, what you're getting is a
Speaker 1: Mary's doing well on the outside seeds, consistently catching the ball.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, Michael Gallant's gonna give you a
Speaker 1: big play. But I think the one thing that we're
Speaker 1: seeing that can almost be when I say MVP, I
Speaker 1: mean on a very small scale MVP. Right, it's like
Speaker 1: most valuable participant, not most valuable player. It's Dog Shultz. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's his ability now, his ability now to work that
Speaker 1: middle is something that you're gonna need. And look at
Speaker 1: the good teams. He's not drown, He's not Travis Chlse
Speaker 1: and no one is right. He's not Waller or one
Speaker 1: of those guys, and none of those guys. Not many
Speaker 1: people can be those guys. But what you see from
Speaker 1: Dalton's shorts, now, it's the chain movie. It's him having
Speaker 1: eight catches for eighty yards and six of his catches
Speaker 1: be for first downs. Those are the things that you
Speaker 1: want to see because now it goes back to I
Speaker 1: always have an outlet, a safety net for that prescott
Speaker 1: with Dalt Shultz. And now once I get a Maori
Speaker 1: involved earlier. That opens up everything else. And that's how
Speaker 1: you get that offense back to being humming again. Is
Speaker 1: that get the ball to number one right, get him
Speaker 1: going early and again, it doesn't have to be a
Speaker 1: goal route. It doesn't have to be an eighty yard touchdown. No,
Speaker 1: a five yard out route, a hit trout, something that
Speaker 1: when he's getting into a rhythm, and now I'm able
Speaker 1: to get the ball of shots, run the ball a
Speaker 1: little bit or now I got deep overs and I
Speaker 1: got dig routes for a Cde Lamb, tough yards over
Speaker 1: the middle, boom he's hitting. And now once everybody starts
Speaker 1: biting up, now I can take shots down the field
Speaker 1: of Michael got the such and you're gonna need all
Speaker 1: of these guys as we head into the playoffs. You're
Speaker 1: gonna need all of these guys on a consistent basis.
Speaker 1: We don't have time for a guy to be off
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, right, you lose, you go home, there's
Speaker 1: no there's no next week. We need these guys, Shultz, Cooper,
Speaker 1: slam Galla, Polar, all of them to be consistently performing
Speaker 1: and for Dad to be consistently getting them the ball
Speaker 1: in spots where they could be successful. Lam was a
Speaker 1: guy last night. I mean go ahead, man, no, no,
Speaker 1: go on, go ahead. Used to say something about receivers
Speaker 1: go ahead on the so well, Lamb was just he was.
Speaker 1: You know, he got a lot of criticism last week
Speaker 1: for his drops, and you saw him take some pretty
Speaker 1: brutal hits last night and hang on to the ball.
Speaker 1: I mean, was that all a part of you know
Speaker 1: again back to Cooper saying I'm frustrated, I'm I need
Speaker 1: to do better. That bled over into guys like Lamb.
Speaker 1: He's like, Okay, we're gonna take this up a notch.
Speaker 1: You hear well, the criticism is the criticism was rightfully sold. Yes, right,
Speaker 1: And the reason being is we watched what he did
Speaker 1: last night and he makes those tough catches, and then
Speaker 1: we watched what he did a week ago and we go, well,
Speaker 1: what the hell, bro Like, you're getting you're catching the
Speaker 1: ball and you're getting you know, hitting the back and
Speaker 1: get you get knocked around and he's still holding on
Speaker 1: to the ball. The other passes you're wide open and
Speaker 1: you're dropping them. So we're gonna criticize when we know
Speaker 1: that you can do it right. It's not like we're there.
Speaker 1: We're asking you to do things that are over what
Speaker 1: you're able to do. We're seeing you do it in
Speaker 1: tougher situations. So when you get to lesser situations and
Speaker 1: you don't get it done, you're damn right. You don't
Speaker 1: get the criticism every single time because it's all about
Speaker 1: moving the chains a lot of time, you know, helping
Speaker 1: your defense, because it is proven if our defense can
Speaker 1: have twenty eight or less minutes on that field, you
Speaker 1: got some wild dudes coming out there trying to hurt folks.
Speaker 1: You don't want them to be spending thirty minutes on
Speaker 1: the field, thirty two minutes on the field. You want
Speaker 1: that on the offensive man, so these guys can stay fresh.
Speaker 1: They showed the graphic last night. We each each one
Speaker 1: of the defensive linement is averaging like thirty plays at
Speaker 1: the max thirty players. Can't you know the draft? I mean,
Speaker 1: you know the the rush that these guys are putting
Speaker 1: up on a on a D on a D on
Speaker 1: our offensive line, especially if line like the red Skins,
Speaker 1: who was kind of beat up that that that was
Speaker 1: the Washington football team. Yeah, yeah, if you say something, hey, whatever,
Speaker 1: we want to call them beat to death. Washington Capital
Speaker 1: punishment was the reserves watching there you go. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: Washington generals, you call them whatever they they need to
Speaker 1: be in the US A veil. We've got up on that. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: I got I got one more offensive, well maybe two
Speaker 1: more offensive questions and then maybe we'll take a break,
Speaker 1: come back talk a little defense. But I was surprised
Speaker 1: at the end of the game. I was surprised that
Speaker 1: Zeke only had thirty seven yards because he ran it
Speaker 1: seemed like with such more authority. I mean that that
Speaker 1: end around on the side where the deep, you know,
Speaker 1: but does it live Collins pulled all the way over
Speaker 1: and the blocking out front. I mean the running game
Speaker 1: wound up with one hundred and eight yards. But you
Speaker 1: saw I think Zeke run with more authority. Perhaps the
Speaker 1: line do some different things to make it work. Did
Speaker 1: you see that they got outside and it was pulling.
Speaker 1: Zeke had a little bit of a little he was
Speaker 1: moving better, his mobility was better. But all it takes
Speaker 1: is the threat is Zeke became a thread again last
Speaker 1: night along with Tony Pollit doing his theme. Now you
Speaker 1: noticed they didn't need him after the After the second quarter,
Speaker 1: the rest him because the game was out of hand
Speaker 1: and so they didn't need it. So they did it
Speaker 1: in the first quarter, and it was all you needed
Speaker 1: to do. I mean, how many points they scored there
Speaker 1: in the first quarter. It was ugly, man. And then
Speaker 1: when I mean, they're so mad today, like, man, I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna, ain't gonna touch him the offense, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna beat up my teammate, So dude just jump on
Speaker 1: his team, but my teammate. But I think one of
Speaker 1: the things they did in the running game, Kurt, was
Speaker 1: they rushed on the edges right, they got out, they
Speaker 1: got outside, and even and even Zeke with his limited bursts,
Speaker 1: you know he didn't have that anymore, he was able
Speaker 1: to still make some hay. And when you look at
Speaker 1: overall what they did, they they the Cowboys put together
Speaker 1: a game's worth of productivity and a half. At halftime,
Speaker 1: Dak had three under twenty one yards passing Zeke. I
Speaker 1: mean that Zeke, but but but the running backs had
Speaker 1: seventy eight yards rushing at halftime. You could have stopped
Speaker 1: the game then right that the game was over, it
Speaker 1: was over. Then you could have stopped it and let
Speaker 1: people start going home early or you know, get get
Speaker 1: get the dude throws the frisbee to the dog, or
Speaker 1: what's the other lady named red Panda who does the
Speaker 1: little kick bowls. At the halftime of the game, you
Speaker 1: could you could add, you could add a different show
Speaker 1: going on out there. So the running game did what
Speaker 1: you needed it to do. Seventy eight yards and a
Speaker 1: half is to me, EQUI lent you know to to
Speaker 1: When you look at that game, it's it's it's twenty
Speaker 1: eight seven or it's thirty five seven. At halftime it's over.
Speaker 1: So seventy eight yards rushing and three n twenty one
Speaker 1: yards passing in a dominant performance. That's all you need,
Speaker 1: and that's all you really need from this offense is
Speaker 1: just being able to to to like Nate said, have
Speaker 1: a presence of a running game. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's going to be dominant again, but having a presence
Speaker 1: and being able to run the ball in some capacity
Speaker 1: is what they need, especially when Dak is humming like that.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, let's take our second break. When we
Speaker 1: come back, we do need to talk about the defense
Speaker 1: a little bit, because, like Nate said earlier in the show,
Speaker 1: I mean they were they might be the real story
Speaker 1: here and again, um man, what else we might I'd
Speaker 1: like to sit and maybe get your thoughts. See if
Speaker 1: you've ever seen anything like what happened on that Redskins bench.
Speaker 1: If that's ever seen? You've seen that yourselves on your
Speaker 1: teams played for and who knows that we got special
Speaker 1: teams to talk about. There's so much to talk about,
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Speaker 1: for Shannon gross. Our man Jesse Holley is here and
Speaker 1: Nate Newton and we are breaking down this beatdown of
Speaker 1: a game last night. We've We've hit a lot of
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, but the defense, Um,
Speaker 1: what's what? What is this guy? What are they? What's
Speaker 1: the next step? What are they these guys capable of?
Speaker 1: Is it gonna get even better. Just keep playing because
Speaker 1: the competition only gets better and gets tougher. And as
Speaker 1: long as we are as long as our offense can
Speaker 1: score first, or stay even our defense and keep rushing
Speaker 1: that pass and keep making things happen, because you know,
Speaker 1: other coordinators get a little shaky, the other quarterbacks get
Speaker 1: a little shaken. They get the feeling like if I
Speaker 1: don't throw it, we don't we can't win the game.
Speaker 1: But then that falls right into the back trap of
Speaker 1: what coach Quinn is trying to do, you know, make
Speaker 1: you just become one dimensional him and these guys they're
Speaker 1: eating and feasting. Man, they're making plays and man, it's
Speaker 1: just manifesting itself all over the field. Yeah, how much
Speaker 1: of this uh continued resurgence is de Marcus Lawrence coming back?
Speaker 1: He had a heck of a play last night, for sure.
Speaker 1: Me and Jesse we wrapped about this weeks ago, weeks ago,
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Can't wait to de Marcus Lawrence get back,
Speaker 1: because you know, it ain't no more who we are
Speaker 1: and talking about it, and you know he is being
Speaker 1: about it as every Yeah, he coming out, he ain't
Speaker 1: doing much talking. He's just straight up playing, man, And
Speaker 1: you see it. I like how they get They brought
Speaker 1: him back, Jess, they made sure he was healthy and
Speaker 1: good shape, and they ramped him up right. And now
Speaker 1: he I mean, he's playing thirty five players a game
Speaker 1: at most, and he's crushing folks. They got him over
Speaker 1: the three technique, over the over either guard, he will
Speaker 1: he will play and he's still rushing from his outside position.
Speaker 1: So and now he's truly one on one with the
Speaker 1: other three guys that they got up front in Gallimore
Speaker 1: and uh Young Parsons and Gregory. I mean, who do
Speaker 1: you who do you turn to? You can't? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it is Ugan. No, You're absolutely right, Nate. And
Speaker 1: one of the things that you know, dan Quinn did
Speaker 1: and we sometimes not everybody, but we sometimes forget that
Speaker 1: dan Quinn cut his teeth in the league as a
Speaker 1: defensive line coach and worked his way up to, you know,
Speaker 1: to eventually being a head coach or being one of
Speaker 1: the most recognizable defense cords in the league. So we
Speaker 1: talk about having that front. I think dan Quinn sits
Speaker 1: in his office sometimes and he sits back and you know,
Speaker 1: and he has his hands behind his head and he's
Speaker 1: just laughing because he's saying, look what I can do
Speaker 1: up front. One of the like Jeron Curse last night,
Speaker 1: you know, got a sack. We haven't even seen many,
Speaker 1: you know, slot blitzers or safety blitzers or cat blitzers
Speaker 1: and anything like that, because he's just saying, I got
Speaker 1: so much up front to just wheel and deal with.
Speaker 1: And like you said, I can now move Tank inside,
Speaker 1: I can line up Michael outside. I could swap sides
Speaker 1: on these guys. I can have slants and have a
Speaker 1: guy loop all the way around. I could bring Michael
Speaker 1: from depth. I can drop guys in the coverage. And
Speaker 1: so for dan Quinn, he is he has been fortunate
Speaker 1: to had the talent that Will McClay has given this
Speaker 1: football team prior to Michael Parsons becoming a part of it.
Speaker 1: And now you add the piece of Michael Parsons, and
Speaker 1: then you add that back end piece that dan quinn
Speaker 1: brought in and saw those guys and your Jen Royn
Speaker 1: Curses and your Hookers of the Worlds and your Wilson
Speaker 1: and all those other guys. I mean, he's playing with
Speaker 1: house money. And you see he's literally just saying, I'm
Speaker 1: having so much fun. My hats turned back I'm up
Speaker 1: in the booth and I'm literally just taking the leash
Speaker 1: off all of these dogs and just letting them go
Speaker 1: be dogs. And missing Randy Gregory for a short amount
Speaker 1: of time, missing Take Lawrence for an attended period of time.
Speaker 1: Missing certain guys has given those other guys those meaningful reps.
Speaker 1: Your bash hims of the world, your walkings of the
Speaker 1: worlds has given them rep. So now you trust them.
Speaker 1: You don't have to dumb down your scheme because those
Speaker 1: guys are playing in games where you were ramping your
Speaker 1: scheme up, so they understand it. They know it, and
Speaker 1: it's this infectious energy that it's around this defense. Everybody
Speaker 1: wants to make plays. And when you got eleven guys
Speaker 1: who want to make plays on the defense, you got
Speaker 1: a damn good defense because those guys are running, they're humming,
Speaker 1: they're going, and they're motivating each other. I listened to
Speaker 1: Neville Gallimore talk and he said, man, when I was
Speaker 1: out with that elbow injury, you know, the guys made
Speaker 1: me still stay involved. He said, Man, but I was
Speaker 1: chopping at the bitch because I was seeing how everybody
Speaker 1: was eating out there. He's like, everybody eating and you
Speaker 1: want to be a part of that, and everybody's eating
Speaker 1: out there, and dan Quinney just saying, I got a
Speaker 1: plethora of weapons. I got all pros. I got defensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Years. I got potentially defensive rookie. I
Speaker 1: mean I had the fensive rookie of Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: two potential defensive players of the years. I got pro
Speaker 1: bowlers up front. I mean I got this guy. I
Speaker 1: got first round picks over here who nobody wanted anymore,
Speaker 1: and I got guys over I mean, he just has
Speaker 1: a wealth of talent on that defense, and he's putting it.
Speaker 1: He's putting it the work. Let's let's let's enjoy let's
Speaker 1: enjoy our time with dan Quinn because it may be short.
Speaker 1: Let's let's one play man earlier in the game, Man,
Speaker 1: where he had everybody standing up and he had Gregory
Speaker 1: over the left guard, but he was three or four
Speaker 1: yards back standing up, and behind him he had uh,
Speaker 1: he had Michael Parsons, and he blitzed right into that
Speaker 1: left guard. Man, and at the last minute, with all
Speaker 1: that speed, your boy Parsons just took off the center barely,
Speaker 1: sawn Man and barely. Just look, man, when you're when
Speaker 1: your exits and ows can't can't touch my what it
Speaker 1: is what you call the joes and whatever, my jimmies
Speaker 1: and Joe's give me talent, but give me talent that
Speaker 1: understands what I need done. It's hard to beat that man.
Speaker 1: I mean they he moved them every up. And I
Speaker 1: tell people, last your guys were standing up and everybody
Speaker 1: can understand the defense. Well now everybody's standing up and
Speaker 1: everybody stands understands defense because he puts you in a
Speaker 1: better position to be who you are what you need
Speaker 1: to be. And when players see that, they rally around you.
Speaker 1: Yeah that, I mean, you're right. Last year, I can
Speaker 1: remember de Marcus Lawrence. I think he even complained a
Speaker 1: little bit because he was having to stand up. He
Speaker 1: wanted his hand on the ground. But obviously talent is
Speaker 1: the biggest factor. But you know the scheme and even
Speaker 1: the one too. Now are you seeing them? Is the
Speaker 1: mental side of it is what is taking them to
Speaker 1: the next level. This guy and the ownership had to
Speaker 1: buy into this. We're gonna get rid of some guys, coach,
Speaker 1: if you want to change and become better, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get rid of some guys and guys that you know,
Speaker 1: had the smart remarks, Oh, you don't need to run
Speaker 1: all the time, and you don't need to do this,
Speaker 1: and you don't you know, they're not longer here. You
Speaker 1: do need to run all the time because we're gonna
Speaker 1: cut your reps. Now, we're gonna give you a specific
Speaker 1: thing to do, and we're gonna need you to do
Speaker 1: a wide open and everybody has to run to the ball,
Speaker 1: you know, And now you see that everybody believes, and
Speaker 1: then winning just makes it worse. When you're winning, everybody
Speaker 1: believes and everybody's trying to get there. And and I'm
Speaker 1: with you, Jesse. You know everybody were about kell him leaving.
Speaker 1: And I'll say at the beginning of the year, you
Speaker 1: better be watch out and hope our defensive coordinator on leave.
Speaker 1: That's what you better hope. Yeah, no doubt. Um, well, okay,
Speaker 1: we got just a couple more minutes here, so we
Speaker 1: got Jesse's corner since we had Kirk corner. Well I did,
Speaker 1: I did what I did? I did? One quick question?
Speaker 1: Do we need to start showing Fossil a little love
Speaker 1: for those special teams? We criticized him early. He's taking
Speaker 1: a lot of beatings early on but man, this the
Speaker 1: special teams are really rolling right now, aren't they. I
Speaker 1: like the punner, I like the way they cover, and
Speaker 1: I still ain't going along with the kicker, So I
Speaker 1: give him seventy. I've never seen somebody non Special teams
Speaker 1: cape for a kicker a punter as much as you like.
Speaker 1: I don't know what is it like a part of them.
Speaker 1: He's a part of the defense. He is a part.
Speaker 1: Got some of them old knew neked photos back in
Speaker 1: the White House. What you know what? You can't even
Speaker 1: but they don't even know. If they showed them old
Speaker 1: neked photos, they wouldn't realize what it was. Whatout a hippo?
Speaker 1: They won't even recognize, sir. I ain't worry about that.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think he's part of the defense. Okay,
Speaker 1: I got your brother, I got your hands down. I
Speaker 1: think for Fossil it's fifty to fifty because you know
Speaker 1: he a lot of times you're not criticizing people when
Speaker 1: they're doing well, and John Foster earlier in the year
Speaker 1: wasn't doing well. I mean he was calling blocks when
Speaker 1: they shouldn't have been calling blocks and then running into
Speaker 1: the kicker. He's still on the hook for this Greg's airline,
Speaker 1: like that's still his guy, and last week he missed,
Speaker 1: he missed the extra points last week, Like it ain't
Speaker 1: like we too far removed from this, but he does.
Speaker 1: He does cut himself some baid when you go out
Speaker 1: there and you got three blocks on the season and
Speaker 1: two touchdowns and you gotta return touchdown for a turn
Speaker 1: with a kickoff or a pump for a touchdown. So
Speaker 1: I mean, it's still the jury is still out on
Speaker 1: bones because he could still get a little freaky um
Speaker 1: and he still has Greg the legas our kicker, and
Speaker 1: I pray and hope that he never cost us a
Speaker 1: game in the playoffs. But he is. He has turned
Speaker 1: it around, and he has given this team a significant
Speaker 1: amount of success via special teams because he's a threat.
Speaker 1: All Right, we gotta get out of here. He's always
Speaker 1: to do wrong, but anyway, go ahead him. I'm sorry, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we gotta get out of here. Chris is having
Speaker 1: a hectic day back there in the studio. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: been grabbing his head or whatever, like late doing all
Speaker 1: that's funny. That's why that's why they pay him half
Speaker 1: a million dollars a year. That's right, that's right. Thank
Speaker 1: you Jesse for preaching the Gospels on says. Thank you, Sir,
Speaker 1: Drumma the Drama, the drummer of Drumming Drama, the drummer Shannon.
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Speaker 1: thanks for getting us up. Thank you fans for putting
Speaker 1: us up, putting up with us today. Hopefully we'll hear
Speaker 1: from you tomorrow. Maybe we'll be able to take some calls.
Speaker 1: But all right, boys, the victory, Monday victory, the rest
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