1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York Bloomberg eleventh yold to Washington 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: d C Bloomberg to Boston Bloomberg twelve hundreds, to San 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: Francisco Bloomberg nine sixty to the Country series XM Channel 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: one ninety and around the globe the Bloomberg Radio Plus 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: Appen Bloomberg dot com. This is Hoomwork Surveillance. Good morning, 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: I'm Karen Moscow along with Tom Keenan, Barry Ridholtz and 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: the Opening Vale Brought to you by s c I 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: imagine when investment operations predicularly respond to regulatory change. 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The 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: yield one eight three percent yield on the two year 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: point seven nine percent nine x Scrude oil up two 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: point seven per cent or a dollar six four a barrel. 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: Comics gold is down to ten percent or two dollars 21 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: ten cents tow the euro a dollar thirteen thirteen, the 22 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: ends one twelve point six six And that's a Bloomberg 23 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: business flash, Tom and Barry Turner, thanks so much. Richard 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: Turnell is with black Rock. He's got a fancy title, 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: Global Chief Investment Strategist out of Cambridge and with a 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: tour duty at the Bank of England, which means he 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: learned he was trained. He lunch is as bad as 28 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: lunch yesterday at the Economic Club of New York. The 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: Rubbert Chicken was off the chart and Mr Turner, the 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: conversation was not like the lunch. It was blinding to 31 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: hear chair yelling inner dovishness. Was she ripping out a 32 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: page from Governor Carney of central banks that are boxed in, Sorry, 33 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: Fir's little good morning. Look. I think what you're seeing 34 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: is definitely a change in tone coming out at the FED, 35 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: and that really following a change in tern we've seen 36 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: from not just Governor Carney, but actually I think across 37 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: the world d CB and the Bank Japan alll signaling 38 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: easier policy going forward. I think we're just an environment 39 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: where there's such uncertainty out there that the FED prepared 40 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: to tolerate the risk of higher inflation, at least in 41 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: the short run, given the potential risk of the down 42 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: side of the economy. So I think we're just gonna 43 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: be an environment now A policy is going to be 44 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: looser globally for some time that we all thought just 45 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. And then you brilliantly highlight your 46 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: note what everyone's noticed. Do we think Dean Cronin for 47 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: his view this morning, it's too quiet out there? T 48 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: o O quiet? How do we respond to the too quiet? 49 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: So it's too quite, particularly in equity markets, and you know, 50 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: the VIX has collapsed right back down below fourteen again 51 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: this morning. It's at a level we haven't seen since 52 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: last summer. Now, we still think that equity is the 53 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: right place to be for most clients, but volatility is 54 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: very unlikely to stay at these levels for a long 55 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: period of time, partly because it's just so unusually low, 56 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: and also you're not seen the same confirmation signals from 57 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: fixed income or currency where volatility is actually is actually 58 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: much higher. So our recommendation to clients would be you 59 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: should be taking advantage of these very low levels of 60 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: volatility to put some hedges in your port failure. Again, 61 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: we think, we think this is a good time to 62 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: be in risk assets, but there are definitely risks out there. 63 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: There are risks around China, risks around politics both in 64 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: the US and here in Europe, and increasingly is we 65 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: just touched on risks around inflation where the said is 66 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: prepared to lease tolerate higher inflation in the short run. 67 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: So now it's a good time to be taking advantage 68 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: of the very low levels evolved, very low levels of 69 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: VIX and and put a bit of insurance in your 70 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: port failio. Let me push back on the idea that 71 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: this is such an unusual situation. Didn't we have the 72 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: VIX in in the low team means for years and 73 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: years and years in the nineteen nineties, in a period 74 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: where markets clearly a different environment and than today. But 75 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: it's hard to say that we've never really experienced anything 76 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: like this, isn't it. Well, you've never seen before was 77 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: such a prolonged period of low vall. So so we 78 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: saw three consecutive years of of the VIX not just 79 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: in the low teens and the low low teens from 80 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve through the two thousand and fourteen. 81 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: But we've looked back at our data over all history, 82 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: and never in history have we seen a sustained period 83 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: of volatility in this low before. So you're right, there 84 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: have been certainly periods of low volatility in the past, 85 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: often associated with easier monetary policy, that we have never 86 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: seen a prolonged period of very low vall like the 87 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: one we saw through two thousand and twelve to two 88 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen. So yeah, I think it's it's very 89 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: dangerous assume that's the norm and that's what we're going 90 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: back to. Our analysis suggests that actually it was quantitative easy, 91 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: which would the grove volatility to those extraordinary low levels. 92 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: With the feed now having exited QEWE, I think it's 93 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: much more likely you're going to see these periodic spikes 94 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: involved going forward. And actually, you know what we've seen 95 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: in the last few months, I suspect it's going to 96 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: become a much more commonplace experience. We get these short 97 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: term writers involved, followed by eating back. So I think 98 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: I think it's been a very unusual environment. So let 99 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: me let me channel the message of the market and 100 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: and create the counter narrative, which is the fall in 101 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: volatility is saying, hey, the ft is right. There is 102 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: no real threat from inflation, at least not anytime soon. 103 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: And while everybody's all upset about the sturm and drunk 104 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: about the politics, even if Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump 105 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: takes the White House, what are they going to be 106 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: able to accomplish through through Congress? Can we read the 107 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: low valence saying hey, maybe things aren't as terrible as 108 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: everybody thinks. Yeah, I'd actually point to some other things 109 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: as well as those of driving that that volatility decline. 110 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: If you go back to January, people were very worried 111 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: about oil and what that meant for the economy. That 112 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, those those concerns have dissipated. That they were 113 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: very worried about further China's de evaluation after moving the 114 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: currency early in January. Those those concerns have dissipated. And 115 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 1: there was even concerned about another European banking crisis, particularly 116 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: after the Deutsche Bank news. And again those those concerns 117 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: have dissipated because actually European banks are still able to 118 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: access credit, so You've had a lot of kind of 119 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: fancy things just not happening. I would say, so part 120 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: of the news is like a lot of concerns out 121 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: there which have just not played out, and that's alloy 122 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: of volatility to fall. But when I look forward, it's 123 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: not hard to come up with a list of potential 124 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: things to worry about. And again just go back to 125 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: how how unusual this level of volatility is. I think 126 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: is yeah, with that windfall is low, this is the 127 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: time to think about buying that potentior. Who's the horse 128 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: and who's a card? I'm going to say, vole in 129 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: the markets are out front of the economics, which just 130 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: damp and global GDP, which folds right into the revenue 131 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: stream of all the corporations we talked about in the 132 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: bottom line is the damp and vows getting out front 133 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: of a new terminal value for revenue growth. I mean, 134 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: what is your model for revenue growth? So we're thinking 135 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: a very low growth environment for some time, and actually 136 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: you know that that that low growth environment should be 137 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: one actually in which risk assets can do reasonably well. 138 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: When this sweet spot right now, where that takes us 139 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: back to what we saw something that in the nineties. 140 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: You talked about in the nineties earlier in terms of 141 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: low bow, in this sweet spot that it was called goldilocks, 142 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: where growth is looking sufficiently strong that people are less 143 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: worried about deflation. But it's not but it's not so 144 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: strong as to put the fedback in play, with the 145 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: Ellen's comments in the last few days reinforcing that. So 146 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: you're in this you're in this sweet spot that's helping 147 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: facilitate this low bowl. But there are real risks on 148 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: both sides. There's risks that you know that we have 149 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: an external shock which drives us into a week or 150 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: growth environment, and we can talk about some of the 151 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: risks particularly around you know, Europe and China devaluation. The 152 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: risk on the other side which actually start to see 153 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: inflation pick up, that that's a risk people really what 154 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: even considering just a few months ago, but actually some 155 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: of the day to think in the US is coming 156 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: coming through suggesting that. So again I think it's just 157 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: dangerous assume that ball just stayed at these levels for 158 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: a long time. Richard, Thank you so much. Richard Turner 159 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: with Black Rocket London, look forward to speaking to particularly 160 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: as we migrate over to London. Uh in the coming 161 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: weeks again. A Richard turn On, global chief investment strategist 162 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: black Rock, the market up a hundred two. I don't 163 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 1: know if I'm bar Barry. Where's the record now? Is 164 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: like eighteen thousand three years. We're still uoints away. We're 165 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: about four or three point seven percent away from all 166 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: time highs. Okay, so we're not on the high watch yet. 167 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: We're not on the record watch, but we're getting there 168 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: at some point. The VIX thirteen point six one, Richard 169 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: turn Ill talking about a VIX under fourteen is being 170 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: remarkable to yield two year yield points seven nine, maket 171 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: point eight zero percent in the tenure one point eight four. 172 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: There's a thirty year bond two point six four. These 173 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: are wow yields. After Janet Yellen speaks in this hour 174 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: of Bloomberg surveillance, roch By bonsa White Plains visit Mazda 175 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: White Plains dot com with our news Michael Barr, Tom Berry, 176 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Brussels Mainly report will remain closed 177 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: today as temporary repair work continues. 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