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Speaker 1: Now welcome man. Lake Kick is live. It is Sunday night,

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Speaker 1: April eleventh, the Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: How about that suspenseful intro music. By the way, well

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Speaker 1: it feels like a speed too. Did they make a

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Speaker 1: sequel to Speed? Keanu Reeves probably one of the top

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Speaker 1: thirty most underrated actors in the nineties. I've got full

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Speaker 1: feedback in my year by the way, Jesse, in case

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Speaker 1: got a loaded show tonight, jam packed. It's probably our

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Speaker 1: most loaded show of the spring. So really excited to

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Speaker 1: talk about Scrimmage intail from Georgia, Scrimmage intail from Alabama.

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Speaker 1: I got a ton of scoop from Florida State. We've

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Speaker 1: got Oregon, we got South Carolina. Who else are we

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Speaker 1: talking about? It's talking about Michigan tonight. So we got

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Speaker 1: a whole lot to get to. Also, you know, some

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Speaker 1: people have played their spring games. Some people haven't played

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Speaker 1: their spring game. We'll get to all of it here.

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Speaker 1: The Saban rule. Some of you know what that is,

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Speaker 1: Seems like it's on the chopping block right now, which

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Speaker 1: is a good thing. We will discuss that tonight. Also,

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Speaker 1: Instagram growing very quickly. We like ballooned well past two thousand.

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Speaker 1: at Late Kick Josh. We've got some really good ideas

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Speaker 1: coming up, really good content ideas. They'll be exclusive there.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's stuff that if you followed me for

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Speaker 1: a while, you know, back when we had normalcy and

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Speaker 1: That's my only that's my only tease at Late Kick

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Speaker 1: Josh on Instagram. But because we're already over two thousand,

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Speaker 1: you remember what the promise was. We got a brand

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Speaker 1: lottery is tonight, in fact, right after this show producer

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Speaker 1: the lottery. If you've already gotten your emails in, great,

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Speaker 1: If you're watching live, we may be able to squeeze

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Speaker 1: thing Tuesday evening, same format we did last time, only

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Speaker 1: the fall. So we are. We're looking forward to that.

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Speaker 1: Sunburnt today, beautiful day, and Colin, I didn't tell you this,

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Speaker 1: so before we start, I was out and about in Brentwood,

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Speaker 1: Saban rule deal. Alabama had a scrimmage yesterday. They've got

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Speaker 1: But before that, I wanted to just give you some

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Speaker 1: Now that is the Alabama branch of twenty four to

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Speaker 1: seven Sports. They do a great job. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about a lot of Bama guys

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Speaker 1: all made plays, they've all done things in spring and

426
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Speaker 1: if you know anything about Smart, and this kind of

427
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,720
Speaker 1: gets into the weeds a little bit, you have to

428
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 1: have a pretty established data bank in your mind of

429
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,679
Speaker 1: reference points to know a coach, to know his tendencies.

430
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,400
Speaker 1: Some coaches stepped to the podium and they just sing

431
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,639
Speaker 1: the praises of every player on the roster, and you

432
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 1: can't really decide anything or to doce anything from that

433
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,119
Speaker 1: other coach is Getting compliments out of them is like

434
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,639
Speaker 1: pulling teeth. Therefore, when they volunteer that information, you learn

435
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,959
Speaker 1: that your ears should perk up a little bit. Well,

436
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,680
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart unsolicited yesterday, really just started naming off receivers

437
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 1: and started saying, you know, I'm kind of fired up

438
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 1: about the unit. Actually, obviously we lose George Pickens. Obviously

439
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 1: that's a loss in skill, it's a loss in quality depth.

440
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,880
Speaker 1: But he did not sound overly concerned, nearly as concerned

441
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,440
Speaker 1: as a lot of the faithful out there in Red

442
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,479
Speaker 1: and Black that they're going to be incapable of filling

443
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,199
Speaker 1: that slot and having really really good production there. So

444
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 1: again that's one of those time will tell sort of deals.

445
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,680
Speaker 1: But I think it was noteworthy, especially come from Kirby

446
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,640
Speaker 1: Smart moving forward to Saturday, really interesting to watch them

447
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. Defensive backs obviously been a glaring

448
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,640
Speaker 1: not area of weakness, but area of focus for us

449
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 1: with Georgia this spring because of the inexperience. Their talent,

450
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: but an experience. But you know another thing before we

451
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,199
Speaker 1: move on here that is a perfect encapsulation of what

452
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Speaker 1: last year cost guys. Is a guy like Tate Ratledge.

453
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 1: He was a high four star, five star guy coming

454
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 1: out of high school depending on where you looked. But

455
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 1: he was raw. So he was coming out and he

456
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 1: was an early enrollly last year he was going to

457
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Speaker 1: be a guy who goes through spring and will see

458
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 1: like a massive human being, gonna probably work on the

459
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Speaker 1: interior forest. If we can get him through spring and

460
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 1: start and get him some reps. Hey, maybe halfway through

461
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: or the back half of this schedule in twenty twenty,

462
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 1: maybe he starts seeing some first team game reps. Will

463
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: it never happened, like that effort never got off the ground. Well,

464
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 1: now you get a full spring, and so now maybe

465
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: instead of freshman year, it's sophomore year. But maybe a

466
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: guy like Tate Ratledge all of a sudden is a

467
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Speaker 1: guy that benefits mightily from having a spring Smart talked

468
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Speaker 1: about him yesterday and said, he's just a guy we

469
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Speaker 1: knew needed a thousand reps when he came here before

470
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Speaker 1: he was ever going to get on the field for

471
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Speaker 1: us in meaningful action, and now he was working his

472
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Speaker 1: way towards that thousand reps. And so just one of

473
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Speaker 1: many things I'm kind of excited about. Got some really

474
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Speaker 1: good spring games that's coming Saturday. You would think that's

475
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 1: it for the Spring Intel, wouldn't you. I told you

476
00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: we were jam packed. I told you this is the

477
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Speaker 1: most jampacked show we've had all spring. We are twenty

478
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 1: minutes in and we still got a lot to go,

479
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: So buckle up a lot more Spring Intel. Florida State

480
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: had their spring game yesterday. I caught it, so I

481
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: was right here. I'm in the obviously in the office,

482
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Speaker 1: and I was watching Nickels State in Southeast Louisiana for

483
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Speaker 1: other reasons, and then I was watching the fs U

484
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Speaker 1: Spring game. And on the FSU Spring game, there were

485
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Speaker 1: some good things and there were some horribly atrocious, terrible,

486
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 1: put the women and children to bed kind of things.

487
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: So there were aspects, for example, kicker, if you have

488
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Speaker 1: not already filled up your prayer list for this evening

489
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 1: before you go to bed, put the Florida State kicking

490
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: situation on your prayer list. It's that bad. We live

491
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: in a world now where Alabama's got a kicker that

492
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 1: can't miss, and Florida State has inherited all the yips

493
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: that used to be associated with Alabama kicking. It's bad,

494
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Speaker 1: but I'm not here to talk about the negatives anymore

495
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Speaker 1: than I just did for thirty seconds. I'm here to

496
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Speaker 1: talk about the positives. Jermaine Johnson is a transfer that

497
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: has come into Tallahassee. He was the best player I

498
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 1: saw yesterday. I think he got hurt, but in reality,

499
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: they probably just had to remove him from the field

500
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 1: so as to not do any more damage to the

501
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: physical and mental psyche of that offense than he was

502
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 1: already doing. He is a six five, two hundred and

503
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: sixty pounds for sure, three down guy for Florida State. Now.

504
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: He was playing at Georgia, couldn't get on the field

505
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: at times. Well, this is Florida State. Like Jermaine Johnson

506
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: may be the best defensive player, one of the very

507
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: best that they're gonna have on that team. This year,

508
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: so that was good to see. But the spotlight was

509
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: on the quarterback position. And McKenzie Milton, as I told

510
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: you when they opened camp in Tallahassee, is the guy

511
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: I was watching. I'm not alone there, a lot of

512
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: people were watching him. All I wanted to see was

513
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Speaker 1: him run. And we saw him run yesterday. It was

514
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 1: in very controlled conditions, but we saw him run yesterday.

515
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 1: We're looking at him and so that's that's obviously footage

516
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: from Central Florida, but we're looking at him and he

517
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 1: had a brace on his leg, like a stone called

518
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: Steve Austin type. But he ran okay, plenty mobile enough

519
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: that will only get better, obviously if I get that

520
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,959
Speaker 1: from him. As I told you at the beginning of spring,

521
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: if I get adequate to plus mobility from mackenzie Milton,

522
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Speaker 1: he'll be the starting quarterback for Florida State. We've got it,

523
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: and I think he'll be the starting quarterback for Florida State.

524
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: Now that's not decided, that's not out of the mouth

525
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: of Mike Norvel or anything like that, but it's Jordan

526
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: Travis Mackenzie Milton, like that's going to be the talking

527
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: point all summer I'll put my money on him. So

528
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Speaker 1: I think that's probably who's gonna win that one. Whoever

529
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: starts Hoopstaver, starts it off, or starts a quarterback for

530
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: Florida State has got their work cut out for him.

531
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Speaker 1: This is the only area of trepidation for me, ninety

532
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: percent whatever. It's still a reconstructed knee, had to have

533
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: multiple surgeries. And the offensive line that the starting quarterback

534
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: for Florida State is going to play behind is not

535
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: exactly what I would call a brick wall, and so

536
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: that's very much a work in progress. It's one of

537
00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 1: the probably the most alarming unit collectively on their team

538
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: right now that I saw at least was offensive line.

539
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: So Mike Norvel's got his work cut out for him.

540
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: That kicking game, yiesh. Just go for it, go for it,

541
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: go for it, and then go for two. How about

542
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: ann Arbor. Michigan has locked down completely. Michigan has treated

543
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: their entire supring practice like a Builderberg convention. You can't

544
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: get any information out of there, you can't get anybody

545
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: in there. And so I saw Sam Webb on our

546
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: Michigan site trying to glean as much as he could

547
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: from I guess some fifteen year old kid who flew

548
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: a drone over the stadium. I don't know where in

549
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: the world you get information out of Michigan right now,

550
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: but as lockdown as things were, sam webbing, the guys

551
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: at the Michigan Insider were able to get some dirt

552
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: and so I was reading there and the two things

553
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 1: that caught my eye on top of something that was

554
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: just public and available for anyone from Josh Gattison, That's

555
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: what I wanted to talk about. So the quarterback situation there,

556
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 1: first thing we wanted to know is is JJ McCarthy

557
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Speaker 1: as a true freshman early enrolly, is he he's just

558
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: going to come in and take the job by the throat? Well, no,

559
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: he hasn't, so cade McNamara, as it appears, exit spring

560
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: as QB one there that is by no means decided obviously.

561
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: That just means JJ McCarthy had the usual ups and

562
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 1: downs that you would expect even a talented true freshman

563
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: to have. So all that notwithstanding, I'm listening to Josh

564
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: Gaddis on the I Think It's the End of the

565
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: Trenches podcast. He did it last week and it was

566
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: very surprising. On two fronts. Number one, it was surprising

567
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: because they've been so tight lipped with information up there,

568
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: and then the offensive coordinator just goes on a podcast

569
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: and talks for like thirty minutes. We appreciated it, though,

570
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: and then the second thing that took me by surprise

571
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: was something he said about the receiver position. Now, obviously

572
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: Michigan has been far below the athletic standard necessary to

573
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: compete at the national level at receiver for several years now,

574
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: and that's why it caught my attention when Josh Gaddis said,

575
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: we've got the speed and we've got the attention to

576
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: detail at receiver now necessary to do whatever we want

577
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Speaker 1: to do. Now, again, these are not my words, and

578
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: that's not a direct quote from him, but I pretty

579
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: accurately paraphrased what he said. So we got the speed now, Okay,

580
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: So if there's any question out there, as long as

581
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: Michigan doesn't incur a ton of injuries, out of the

582
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator's mouth, they got the speed. So speed's not

583
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: Speed's not a limiting factor for them anymore, according to

584
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Speaker 1: Josh Gattis. Attention to detail, it's not going to be

585
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: a limiting factor. According to Josh Gattis, that's good news.

586
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: I don't say that sarcastically. I just say it very

587
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: slow and methodically to make sure we're all understanding each

588
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: other here. What I really mean is if they're sitting

589
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: there with thirteen points on the board midway through the

590
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 1: fourth quarter a couple of times this fall, I'm not

591
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: gonna have to sit there and listen anymore to someone say, well,

592
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: they just got to get more speed in here. Well,

593
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: you know, they're just young, and they got guys whose

594
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: heads are swimming. No, they don't, and know they aren't not,

595
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: according to Josh Gattis. So let's just tuck that away.

596
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: Write it on a post it locket, put it in

597
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: the pocket, tuck it away. We'll revisit that in fall.

598
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: How about Oregon Anthony Brown at quarterback? Every first team

599
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: rep the entire spring so far. So this is another

600
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: one of those situations, just like at Michigan, where we've

601
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: got a really, really high profile true freshman quarterback coming in.

602
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: This time it's Ty Thompson out of Arizona. And so

603
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: the early question, the first thing you always want to

604
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: know about any kind of true freshman quarterback, is it

605
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: just going to be so overwhelming. Is it going to

606
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: be so clearly the number one option that you even

607
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: know it out of spring? Well, that's not the case

608
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: at Oregon. Okay, that's that's layer one of several layers

609
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: that we have to go through before we decide who's

610
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: going to start there. But so far it's still Anthony

611
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: Brown's job. Now, there are some conflicting theories, I guess,

612
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: or maybe different theories. They're not conflicting amongst organ fans

613
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: as to what the motivation here may be. Now, I'm

614
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: just going to take it on the surface and say

615
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown is taking every first team rep because he's

616
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: the best quarterback they have right now. But I have

617
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: read the theories and they are interesting. So he's taken

618
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: every first team rep. Now, according to Mario Christobaul, there

619
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Speaker 1: is no separation beneath Anthony Brown. So they've obviously got

620
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Speaker 1: Ty Thompson there. They got Jay Butterfield, Robbie Ashford. Those

621
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: are the two other quarterbacks. Now, I have been dismissive

622
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: of those two, and to some degree I still am,

623
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: not in a disrespectful way, only because I ultimately think

624
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: it's going to come down to Thompson and Brown. That's

625
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: just the way I think when we get one or

626
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: two weeks into fall camp, the quarterback depth situation will look.

627
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: Could be wrong, It's happened a time or two before,

628
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: but we'll see about that. But for Mario to say

629
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: there's no separation beneath him, it really overemphasizes Anthony Brown's

630
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: the guy right now. That's the transfer from Boston College.

631
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: Now here's what it does to kind of bleed into

632
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: some of the theories. What it does, at the very least,

633
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: even if ty Thompson ends up being the guy, what's

634
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: happening right now is you want to exit Spring if

635
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: at all possible, especially when you have a returning guy

636
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: on your roster. You want to exit spring with at

637
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: least one quarterback. You're saying, right now, we had to

638
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: play next week in a parking lot. We can go

639
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: into battle with this guy. Instead of splitting all these

640
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: reps up exiting Spring and saying, well, it's like we

641
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: think sixty percent here, thirty percent here, ten percent here

642
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: interested in that unless you got a bunch of true

643
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: freshmen in the room. So right now, Anthony Brown's going

644
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: to exit Spring in all likelihood as QB one still

645
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,959
Speaker 1: for them and they're gonna feel good there. But at Oregon,

646
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: they got sixteen early in rollees that are coming in.

647
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: It's the most they've ever had in the program. It's

648
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: among the best program recruiting classes they've ever had. Here's

649
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: what's happening. When you recruit at the level Oregon's recruiting at.

650
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: You keep filling that jar and filling that jar, and

651
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it gets to a critical mass

652
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: and your roster gets to a critical point. Christball seen

653
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: it before. He's been at Alabama, played at Miami. He's

654
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: seen some of the best rosters college football has to offer,

655
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: and he knows he's building one. And you can tell

656
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: by practice. Folks around Oregon. That's all they want to

657
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: talk about. Man, these practices are crazy. And when you

658
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: get to that critical mass where your roster starts to

659
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: overflow over the top of that jar, and you put

660
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: so much talent in the program, those practices become more intense,

661
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: more physical, and more incredible to witness than half the

662
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: games you're gonna play. Because I can promise you there

663
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: is no practice that's operating at a higher level right now,

664
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: day to day on the West Coast, and maybe beyond

665
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: than Oregon football. They're witnessing it. You talk to their guys,

666
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: they know, you know, even as tight lipped as you

667
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: may be, they understand we're witnessing something different every day

668
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: we go out there. Man, it's like a knife fight

669
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: out here. It's different. Oregon practice is different. That's why

670
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: they're on field. Product will ultimately look different in the fall.

671
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: Just a bold prediction there. But outside of that, I

672
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: wanted to touch on South Carolina before we wrap this up.

673
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: South Carolina under Shane Beemer. I was over on the

674
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: Big Spur today, which is the South Carolina message board.

675
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: A lot of good people over there. One of them

676
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: just said something I disagreed with, so I wanted to

677
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: address it and then give you some things that I

678
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: had shared to me today. So someone asked, should we

679
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: consider this year twenty twenty one year zero? For Shane Biemer,

680
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: this is a popular sentiment these days. What year zero

681
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: means is it's such a massive undertaking that we should

682
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: not even we should not even acknowledge record in year one.

683
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: Progress should be measured using other metrics. I believe Josh

684
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: Heipel is in a year zero situation. I believe Mike

685
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: Norvel last year was in a year zero situation. Let

686
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: me make this clear. This is not a year zero

687
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,479
Speaker 1: for Shane Biemer. You do what you have to do

688
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: behind the scenes to rewire the program out on the stage.

689
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: I call it the two front approach. Behind the scenes,

690
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: you gotta do what you gotta do out front. You

691
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: do what Jeff Collins has done at Georgia Tech. Keep

692
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: everyone engaged, excited, and tell them we're getting there. We're

693
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: getting there. We're closer today than we were yesterday, tomorrow

694
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: than today. YadA, YadA, YadA. This is not a year zero.

695
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: There's some good players on this roster. This is not

696
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: year zero at all. They beat Georgia, I mean that

697
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: like they've done things recently. It's not the disaster of

698
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: a program that's like you got to completely salt the

699
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: earth and just torch this entire field and then we'll

700
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: start over. It's bad, it's not that desperate. So you

701
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,719
Speaker 1: tee it up fall you're one, not year zero, and

702
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: you go to work. How about the actual football team.

703
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: Luke Dody is the guy I would lean to a

704
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: quarterback right now. I think most fans around Carolina would

705
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: agree with that. I think Shane Biemer according to what

706
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: I've heard, at least likes what he's seen early on there.

707
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: But here's why I don't think think that they look

708
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: at it as, oh man, we got no shot this fall.

709
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: They like where they're at reasonably on the lines of scrimmage.

710
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: So anytime you inherit a program and you look at

711
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: lines of scrimmage and say we're not bad there, you're

712
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: already ahead of the curve because most of the time

713
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: that's the place. Unfortunately, you walk in as a coach

714
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: and you say, oh, someone, please pull up transfer portal

715
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: dot com. Who's available. Well, I'm not saying they won't

716
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: go to the transfer portal. I'm saying they're okay on

717
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: the lines of scrimmage. They got a couple of tight ends.

718
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: Nick Muse and EJ. Jenkins learn the name. You're in

719
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: the SEC East. EJ. Jenkins learn the name. He's a

720
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: transfer from FCS. One of the best, most pleasant surprises

721
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: they've had there so far as a tight end. So

722
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: they got a couple of good tight ends. The problem, obviously,

723
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: is this is not an SEC caliber wide receiver room.

724
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: The defensive back situation highly suspect, and so there are

725
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: a lot of holes on the roster. But it's not

726
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: a year zero situation, so let's put that away. So

727
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: that's a lot more of the spring intel and whispers

728
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: that we have around the country this past weekend. Got

729
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: a bunch of spring games coming up, so this time

730
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: next week will sound just like we have sounded for

731
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: about the past thirty minutes. I wanted to wrap the

732
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: show up with this, the Saban rule, maybe on the

733
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: chopping block. Do you know what the Saban rule is? Well,

734
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: let's just talk about it. So what is the Saban rule?

735
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: In a word, pathetic? But to put a finer point

736
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: on it, what the Saban rule is is when head

737
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: coaches cannot go out on the road in the spring

738
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: and evaluate. Assistant coaches can, but head coaches can't. Now

739
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: it wasn't always that way, and you may ask, quite

740
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: did it change? Well, why is a pathetic eve and

741
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: why did you call it pathetic? Here's what happened. Let

742
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: me tell you a little story. So once upon a

743
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: time there was a guy. His name was Nick Saban.

744
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: The aforementioned Saban rule has been unofficially named after him.

745
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 1: He goes to LSU, he wins the title The Miami

746
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: Dolphin say come coach for us. He goes down there,

747
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily work out, and so he goes back

748
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: to Alabama. The year is two thousand and seven and

749
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: Nick Saban starts putting together really good recruiting classes. And

750
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: so in the spring of two thousand and eight, they

751
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: put a rule in to where he can't be out

752
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: on the road. He was living on the road. I

753
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: doubt half the time he even went home at night.

754
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: He's in every high school. He's like he's pulling a

755
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: Ron Meyer, just a barnstorming tour. He's all over the place.

756
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: And so here's what really happened. What happened was it was,

757
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: or it used to be that once you got through

758
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: spring that was kind of an unofficial finish line, and

759
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: head coaches hit it big chest and they break the tape.

760
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: And so now, once we got done with the spring game,

761
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: we still got a lot of work to do. It's

762
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: not like we're not gonna come to the office, but

763
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: we know we got SEC media days coming up in

764
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: mid July, and right now it's late April, so I'm

765
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: thinking May June, we got some time to take some vacation.

766
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: Good deal, and so you know, you carve out two weeks,

767
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: three weeks. Specially if you're an assistant, you're gonna get

768
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: some downtime, some family time. These things are not, in

769
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: and of themselves bad concepts. But then this cyborg walks

770
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: in and he doesn't blink as he says any of this.

771
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 1: He says, I've never heard of the word vacation, much

772
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: less take any of them. I don't really sleep a

773
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: whole lot. I have no interests outside of this sport.

774
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: I just want to go and see high school kids

775
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: all spring. And so the coaches who actually want some

776
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: work life balance and they wanted to be home, I

777
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: don't know, a couple hours a week, they didn't like this.

778
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: We can do this stuff in the fall, but in

779
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: the spring and early summertime, man, we're supposed to have

780
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: some downtime. And this guy's walked in at Alabama and

781
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: he's out there at every high school. In fact, he's

782
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: more active in our state than we are in our

783
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: own state. This time a year, we can't have that.

784
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: And so they complained, and they did it about Urban Meyer,

785
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: they did it about Pete Carroll. But then finally Nick

786
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: Saban was the tipping point and they got aggravated that

787
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: they were getting out worked in the spring. They as

788
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: far as I'll go, they is about as close as

789
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to get. The naming names. I think a

790
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: lot of us know who we're talking about here, But

791
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: there were probably more complainers that never really were highlighted.

792
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm not naming names. They complained enough

793
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: to where the NCUBLEA said, all right, get those head

794
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: coaches off the road. These poor head coaches. I mean,

795
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,959
Speaker 1: some of these guys aren't even paid five million dollars

796
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: a year. We can't expect them to work twelve months

797
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: a year, my goodness, and so we take him off

798
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: the road. Nick Saban comes off the road. He's two three,

799
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: He's only won six national championships since then. So it's

800
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: become apparent, apparently as of late, that it didn't really

801
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: do anything to deter the Alabama recruiting machine. Enter Brian

802
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: Fisher from Antlon dot com. He gets on Twitter the

803
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: other day and I didn't even have my contacts in

804
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: when I first read the tweet, and so I put

805
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: my contact in because I'm almost legally blind, to make

806
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: sure I was seeing what I thought I was seeing. Jesse,

807
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: I think We actually have a screenshot of the tweet

808
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 1: if you want to put it up. So Brian Fisher

809
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: with Anthlon dot com just takes to Twitter dot com

810
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 1: the other day and puts this up. He says, scoop

811
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: and boy was it. As part of an NC double

812
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: A recruiting review, there have been discussions about eliminating the

813
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: Nick Saban rule, which prevents head coaches from going on

814
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: the road during the spring eval period. Debate we'll continue

815
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: at D one Council next week. This is great if

816
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: we want to have a ceremonial burning of the actual

817
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: Saban rule. I volunteer our desk right here. I'm not

818
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: sure we're clear to do control burns round here, but

819
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: to be honest, no one else has been in this

820
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: building in months, So if you don't tell, I won't tell.

821
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: Why is it dumb? Like let's shift it down to

822
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: Brice tax here. Why is it dumb for head coaches

823
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: not to be able to go out on the road

824
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: in spring like I'm suggesting it. I thought this rule

825
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: was laughable when they put it in. In fact, I'm

826
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: for loosening the rule more than it was written previously

827
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: before the Saban rule, Like, what really was rubbing some

828
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: head coaches the wrong way. Aside from not being able

829
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: to vacation as much as they wanted to, was Saban.

830
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: They were accusing him. At least Samon was going out

831
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: on the road and he was doing more than just

832
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: bumping into kids. They had the bump rule, where you know,

833
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: if you're a Johnny five star and I'm at Bastrip

834
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: High School in Louisiana and I'm there to see you,

835
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: I can watch you, but I cannot communicate with you.

836
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: I can't sit there and have a conversation with you.

837
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: I know if you're not a college football fan. This

838
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: sounds like the stupidest thing you've ever heard, and it is.

839
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: But these were the NCAA rules, So them's what we

840
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: got to live with. But what you were allowed to

841
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: do if you bumped into him and say hello, Johnny,

842
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: I'll be back to recruit you in the fall, say

843
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: hi to your mother, that's what you were allowed to do. Well,

844
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: there were some allegations out there, imagine this, that Nick

845
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: Saban was doing a little bit more than just saying hi,

846
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: how are you see you? Later he was asking how

847
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: do you like the weather, and what you have for lunch?

848
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: And so that's a no, no, we can't have that.

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Speaker 1: I think that part stupid, so I think it should

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Speaker 1: be deregulated even more. But even if we just returned

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Speaker 1: to the way it was, why is this valuable? Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll name you like fifty seven reasons I would, but

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Speaker 1: I don't have time right now. Number one, it punishes

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Speaker 1: hard work, so I'm against pretty much anything that does that.

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Speaker 1: But then number two, it prevented valuable access. You want

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Speaker 1: to know why the transfer portal so lit up? Well,

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Speaker 1: one of many reasons is how about not giving head

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Speaker 1: coaches proper value suation time. What if I were to

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Speaker 1: suggest to you that if head coaches could get out

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Speaker 1: on the road more and talk to more guidance counselors, teachers, coaches,

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Speaker 1: assistant coaches and the like in the spring, that they

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Speaker 1: could put a finer filter on their committable offer versus

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Speaker 1: non committable offer list. Therefore, you get more guys on

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Speaker 1: your campus that you know are good fits. Therefore, maybe

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Speaker 1: on the back end you have a few less transfers

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Speaker 1: per year. That's one of many reasons. But you know

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Speaker 1: what it also does. Talk to high school coaches, ask

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Speaker 1: them what it does to their program to the community.

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Speaker 1: To continuously have Lincoln Riley coming through town, or Herm

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Speaker 1: Edwards or Clay Helton or Nick Saban or any of

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Speaker 1: these head coaches, it's a really, really big deal because

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Speaker 1: not only does that head coach coming into town get

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Speaker 1: access to at least evaluating players that are going to

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Speaker 1: be rising seniors, they also get their eyes on kids

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Speaker 1: they weren't even there to see, and they get their

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Speaker 1: eyes and they get their actual face to face with

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Speaker 1: some assistant coaches that they've never met before. Dude, Jeremy

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Speaker 1: Pruitt a decade and a half half ago, was not

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Speaker 1: even a head coach at the high school level. He

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Speaker 1: was an assistant at Hoover High School, ended up being

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Speaker 1: one of the highest profile defensive coordinators and ultimately a

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Speaker 1: head coach in the SEC. How do you think that

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Speaker 1: stuff happens? And so here's yet another aspect also, and

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Speaker 1: this is not talked about a whole lot, but I

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Speaker 1: can promise you from firsthand knowledge, it happens a lot

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Speaker 1: of these coaches. Nick Saban is high profile coaches. They'll

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Speaker 1: go out on the road having monstrous recruiting budgets and

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Speaker 1: they'll see obviously hundreds of kids. You know, if I'm

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Speaker 1: let's say I'm Nick Saban and I go to Spain

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Speaker 1: Park High School and I'm looking at a rising junior

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Speaker 1: or a rising senior who's going to be an offensive

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Speaker 1: guard that I may want to offer. I see like

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Speaker 1: thirty or forty other kids out there that day. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to offer those kids. I'm Alabama. I only

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Speaker 1: have spots for the very best in America. But I

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Speaker 1: know the head coach at Texas San Antonio, or I

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Speaker 1: know the head coach at Temple or right, I got

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Speaker 1: all kind of connections at the FBSFCS level. Those guys

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Speaker 1: have fractions of the recruiting budgets. Ide. Do let me

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Speaker 1: tell you what happens. A lot of times, a lot

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Speaker 1: of times, those big time, high profile head coaches they

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Speaker 1: leave those high school practices and they say, there's one

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Speaker 1: kid on that roster I could take. There are seven

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Speaker 1: kids on that roster that are or should be D

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Speaker 1: one bound, and so they share information. That stuff happens

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Speaker 1: every recruiting cycle out of the spotlight. You don't see it.

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Speaker 1: It can only happen if they're out there, guys. It

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Speaker 1: can the evaluation can only take place if the eyeballs

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Speaker 1: are there to see the players, and so this is

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Speaker 1: a situation where football minded people get it. But then

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Speaker 1: a lot of bow tie types, you know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of sweater vest types, the non football types that unfortunately

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Speaker 1: are putting the language in those rules, they don't get that.

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Speaker 1: And so you got to get enough people in the

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Speaker 1: room who get it to overtake the ascot crowd who

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Speaker 1: doesn't always get it, and therefore you get more common

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Speaker 1: sense legislation or in this case, deregulation. And let's keep

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Speaker 1: our fingers crossed because it's good for everyone. Hurts virtually

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Speaker 1: no one, and the people it does hurt the most

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Speaker 1: are the ones who don't really want to work, and

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Speaker 1: therefore we don't really care about him. Anyway, that's right

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Speaker 1: for the show tonight. Remember to follow me on Instagram

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Speaker 1: at Late Kick Josh. We are set as soon as

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Speaker 1: I turn this show off and we get out of

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Speaker 1: Colin Jesse and the entire crew in Connecticut. I'm Josh Pate.

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Speaker 1: Have a great start to your week and God bless