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Speaker 1: To the faithful Mother's Day.

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Speaker 3: The Mother's Day a gift all mothers across the land,

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Speaker 3: and we have tales that will make you say.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, is that my dad?

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Speaker 4: Or is that my mom?

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Speaker 1: Who knows is my dad?

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Speaker 3: And another kid, you know, just questioning everything about your

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Speaker 3: our series titled My husband has a Secret. I'm from

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Speaker 3: Okay story Time wherever you get your podcasts. My dad

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Speaker 3: found his biological parents, should he reach out to them?

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Speaker 3: This is answered a question should DNAGE results always be shared?

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Speaker 3: And it comes from eyes on Pies, who says, I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure this is the place to post this.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's sure as the place to read.

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Speaker 3: It, but I just want to get my excitement out somewhere,

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Speaker 3: so I figured that counts as getting off my chest.

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Speaker 3: As you would expect from my title. My dad male

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Speaker 3: fifty six, was adopted at birth. He was raised in

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Speaker 3: All he had from his birth parents was a letter

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Speaker 3: When my sister decided to get him a genetic test

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Speaker 3: Surprised to find the names of two people with perfect

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Speaker 3: texting Jim for the first time. I was still in

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Speaker 3: also received a message from his biological mom, Debbie, also

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Speaker 3: Debbie is the daughter of an Australian mining engineer, and

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Speaker 4: Wow, what a beautiful story.

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Speaker 1: This has been an amazing positive story.

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Speaker 5: My parents planned to leave almost everything to my disabled brother,

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Speaker 2: That's your brother, Come on, you're being petty all right.

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Speaker 5: My twenty four female brother, thirty two Mal is a

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Speaker 5: He's never been very smart. He did badly in school

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Speaker 5: Sosh Okay story. Times upbrut it. My brother and I

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Speaker 5: They refuse to pay for our college or anything. I

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Speaker 5: I don't really care so much that they didn't give

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Speaker 5: They just recently started working on their will and notified

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Speaker 5: My mother had a doctor's appointment this morning and asked

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Speaker 5: My mother refers to my brother as it'sabled, even though

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Speaker 5: And we have some freaking comments to set OPI straight. Maybe,

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Speaker 5: but he's just dumb basically? Is that it infoe needed?

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Speaker 5: Why can't your brother live with them, help them take

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Speaker 5: implied favoritism, OPI responds. When they tested us was one

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Speaker 5: It's definitely above the cutoff for being considered intellectually disabled,

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Speaker 5: Oh man. And then another reply, that's pretty low and

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Speaker 5: maybe right, he just isn't capable of normal adulting and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's right around the cusp. And again,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like he's not being selfish. He's like, I'm not

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Speaker 5: for any sort of benefits. My parents have babied him

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Speaker 2: Half one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: On his own. He works and pays his bills most

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Speaker 2: What now, this is different? So the main ale here

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Speaker 5: Also, if like a million is going to the brother,

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Speaker 5: I feel like all the money should go to you.

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Speaker 2: I feel like things would be so much more differently

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Speaker 5: They really don't. Meanwhile, they paid to put my brother

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Speaker 5: They just don't care. I told them that they're adults,

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Speaker 5: They're not entitled to be anything for me. Just like

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Speaker 5: state executor, medical power of attorney, nothing. I don't want

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Speaker 5: I asked if they really let their seventeen year old

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Speaker 5: without taking on a huge debt. And if you want

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Speaker 5: to hear more crazy filled stories just like this, go

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Speaker 2: Like this, even crazier sometimes.

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Speaker 5: And we got a little bit more. But her parents

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Speaker 2: No, this is a failure on the parents. I now

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Speaker 2: fully understand where Op's at. Op seems like she still

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Lastly, my parents cried and yelled at me and

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Speaker 5: I left and that's that, I guess, And I kind

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Speaker 2: I've heard that Opie has a wonderful home and a

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Speaker 2: Your brother really doesn't.

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Speaker 5: I'm getting ready to start working on my master's degree

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Speaker 5: They're adults. They can deal with their own problems. It's

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Speaker 5: no parents are.

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Speaker 2: Opie, you have a wonderful life. I would say keep

441
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Speaker 2: close to your brother because that's going to be your

442
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Speaker 2: only family that you have. It seems like coming up

443
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,640
Speaker 2: pretty soon, so just make amends with him and see

444
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 2: what you can do for him and what you guys

445
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 2: can do. I feel like the no contact with your family.

446
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 2: That makes perfect sense. You can do that. I refuse

447
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 2: to co sign my sister's mortgage because my parents went

448
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 2: behind my back. It's always about the money, spider Man,

449
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 2: I twenty eight female, have been busting my butt for

450
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Speaker 2: years to say for my own house. I work in software,

451
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,680
Speaker 2: so I make decent money, but it still takes forever

452
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,639
Speaker 2: to build up a good down payment. Meanwhile, my younger sister,

453
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:46,199
Speaker 2: twenty five female, is in grad school with barely any credit.

454
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Speaker 2: By the way, this counts from user fancy a Panda

455
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Speaker 2: and you can submit your stories on the r slash

456
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Speaker 2: Okay storytime supparate it. So our parents, both mid fifties,

457
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 2: found a house near them and decided she needs it.

458
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Speaker 2: They made an offer without telling me, and now the

459
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Speaker 2: deal only goes through if I co sign. Oh, okay

460
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 2: deal or no deal. In this one, the problem, I

461
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 2: had no clue they'd do this. My parents basically drop

462
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Speaker 2: a bomb. You have the best credit score, co sign

463
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 2: so your sister can get the house, honey. They also

464
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Speaker 2: hinted I should chip in for the down payment because

465
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Speaker 2: you've got the money. If I co sign, I'll be

466
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Speaker 2: on the hook if my sister can't pay. She's still

467
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Speaker 2: in school, has debt and zero backup plan. The bank

468
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 2: might also reject my future mortgage application, since they'll see

469
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Speaker 2: I'm already tied to another loan. But my parents say

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Speaker 2: I'm selfish and forgetting my family values. My sister's calling

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Speaker 2: me a monster for leaving her stranded, and my mom

472
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Speaker 2: threatened to cut off any future financial help like wedding

473
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Speaker 2: money if I do not help right now. Some relatives

474
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Speaker 2: think it's insane my parents tried to rope me into

475
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Speaker 2: this after they already made the offer. Others say, hey,

476
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Speaker 2: I should just do it for the family's sake. I

477
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 2: feel guilty, but also mad they put me in this spot.

478
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 2: Am I the ahole for protecting my own finances? Or

479
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 2: are they wrong for strong arming me into co signing

480
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Speaker 2: a mortgage? I never wanted it in the first place.

481
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 2: And we have an edit. I'm actually adopted LMO forgot

482
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Speaker 2: to mention in my confused and angry state. My parents

483
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Speaker 2: adopted me when I was very young because they been

484
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Speaker 2: struggling to conceive. A few years later, they had my

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Speaker 2: sister naturally, which was a huge deal to them. She

486
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Speaker 2: was their miracle baby. Ever since, it felt like my

487
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Speaker 2: role in the family became the older, adopted one, while

488
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Speaker 2: she was the golden child who could do no wrong,

489
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Speaker 2: so we got favoritism. Now. Growing up, I was expected

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Speaker 2: to pitch in more, be more responsible, and generally look

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Speaker 2: after for my sister. I worked my butt off in school,

492
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Speaker 2: staged scholarships, and eventually landed a good job in software.

493
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Speaker 2: All the while, I felt like my family mostly saw

494
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Speaker 2: me as the fallback option in case anyone needed financial

495
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Speaker 2: or emotional support. Now that I'm actually building my own life,

496
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 2: saving for a house, focusing on my career, I'm realizing

497
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 2: how my success just makes me look like a bigger

498
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: piggy bank than my parents. The more independent I become,

499
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 2: the clear it is that I need to separate myself

500
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Speaker 2: from constant guilt trips and the unspoken expectation that I'll

501
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 2: always bail them or my sister out. I love them,

502
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: but I can't keep sacrificing my own future to maintain

503
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 2: a dynamic where I'm never the priority. So thank you

504
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 2: for the wake up call update to come and make

505
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Speaker 2: some comments. One thing I didn't get to mention is

506
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 2: Mom threatened that will like will no longer financially provide

507
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: for you. Great it seems like you could provide for yourself.

508
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: You're like, you know what, I can provide for myself. Thanks,

509
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 2: and you can use.

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Speaker 5: That money for my sister.

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Speaker 1: How about that?

512
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Speaker 4: Yeah, go for it?

513
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm unadopted. We have some relative top comments.

514
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 2: Why didn't Op's parents co sign the loan? Op? They

515
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: have financial strains and don't want to incure that risk

516
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: and don't have the best credit I have. I wonder

517
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 2: what why didn't Ope's parents help her with buying a house? Op?

518
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: We are at odds due to another family issue. Their

519
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 2: commentary says, So your sister is a golden child and

520
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: you are not. Don't co sign the loan. Tell your

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00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: parents to give your sister the wedding money, and since

522
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 2: your finances won't be a dumpster fire as they would

523
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 2: if you co signed the loan, you'll pay for your

524
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 2: own wedding and will be sure to send them a

525
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 2: picture since obviously they won't be there. Tell them how

526
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 2: much do you appreciate them freeing you from having to

527
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: care for them as age, since that this will fall

528
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: one hundred percent on your sister, not the Ahle. But

529
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: your family is really toxic. Op says, probably something I

530
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 2: should have said, I was blinded by my confusion and

531
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Speaker 2: forgot to mention I was adopted not as a baby,

532
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: but around the age of six. Was always different and

533
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 2: never bothered to reconnect with my bio mom. I knew

534
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 2: I was an outsider, but as I get older and

535
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: somewhat overshadowed by my younger sister with my successful career,

536
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: I think I created resentment between my parents and myself.

537
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: So I think it's hitting a breaking point and it's

538
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: really showing. We have a commentary too, Absolutely, do not

539
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: co sign. Not the a hole. If you refuse, let

540
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: your mom not pay for the wedding. If she's threatening

541
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: now she will again in the end she probably won't,

542
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: but that's not the main reason not to co sign.

543
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: The main reason is there is a huge chance you'll

544
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Speaker 2: be in debt for a house that is not even yours.

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00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 2: Smart and come to her number three terrible idea, Why

546
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,239
Speaker 2: does she need a house right now if she has

547
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: barely any credit and she's in mid grad school, an

548
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 2: apartment sounds like what she needs. Another commentary says, lock

549
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: down your credit score and make sure they can't use

550
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 2: your information anyway. My sister had hers trash by an

551
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: x because he would take out the loans in her name.

552
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 2: I have seen parents do this as well, regardless of

553
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: the child's age or consent. And now we have an update.

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Speaker 1: Do not co sign.

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00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, everyone in the world's saying, don't do it.

556
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 2: The internet selling you don't do it. The Internet's always right.

557
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: The Internet never loses update. Okay, So here's where I'm at.

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00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 2: I'm absolutely not co signing my sister's mortgage, and I'm

559
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: definitely not pitching in for any down payment. This whole

560
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: thing was the final push I needed to realize how

561
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: messed up our family dynamic has been four ages. I mean,

562
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 2: I've always known it was bad, but having them basically

563
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: try to volunteer me and my finances without even asking

564
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: just cross the line. I cannot ignore anymore. I'm done.

565
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: I've decided to cut ties. I'm already in the process

566
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: of dropping any financial entanglements we might have, cutting off

567
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 2: shared accounts, making sure they can't use my information for anything,

568
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 2: and basically scrubbing them from my finances. My job lets

569
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: me work remotely, so I'm planning to move out of

570
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: the States soon. That was always in the back of

571
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: my mind, but now it feels urgent. I need space, distance,

572
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 2: and a real shot in a normal life without the

573
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 2: constant guilt trips. I'm also locking down my credit, raising it,

574
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: changing passwords everything. I'm not taking any chances that someone

575
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: might try to open a line of credit in my name.

576
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: I've seen enough horror stories and I'm not about to

577
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: become one. Thankfully, I'm not alone in all of this.

578
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 2: My close friends have been incredible. They're basically my real

579
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 2: family at this point, helping me pack, offering me a

580
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: place to stay if I need it, reminding me that

581
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: I'm not crazy for wanting to protect my future. They've

582
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: been the biggest source of support and I'm honestly so

583
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: grateful to have them in my corner. So yeah, that's it.

584
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 2: I'm not sighting, I'm leaving.

585
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: Let's go.

586
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: I'm done. If my family wants to blow up at

587
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: me for abandoning them, so be it. I've got to

588
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: look out for myself, my credit, and my sanity. Here's

589
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 2: hoping things only get better from here. Thank goodness, you

590
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: made this situation so easy for yourself. Everyone who commented

591
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 2: their two cents are amazing people, and I thank you

592
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: all for your support. While I'm dealing with this truly

593
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: think you OP clarifies the timeline on when she was

594
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: adopted into the family. Honestly, it was not as dramatic

595
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 2: as it sounds. Were three years of pardon age, I'm older,

596
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: but my adoption was finalized around the time my sister

597
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: was a toddler age. The process itself had started earlier,

598
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 2: and it wasn't all done in a day. My parents

599
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 2: had me placed with them before it was legally official.

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00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: By the time the paperwork went through when I was six,

601
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: she was already three. It's just a messy timeline that

602
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 2: happens when adoption, fertility struggles, et cetera. I forget all

603
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: the details sometimes. My apologies and on too. Update two.

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Speaker 5: Oh boy, dude, something that just popped into my head.

605
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 5: You think as parents financially manipulate OP because they may

606
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Speaker 5: have like her Social Security number.

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00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: That's why I think she's freezing everything. She's doing the

608
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 2: right thing because she knows like they do have chance.

609
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: That's why she's like, nope, nope, nope, freezing everything until

610
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: I'm out, which is very smart. Update number, do discovered

611
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: a credit card in my name? Okay, so I was

612
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: really hoping the update post would be the last one,

613
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: but here we are. I didn't expect it to turn

614
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: into a bigger mess. After deciding not to co sign

615
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: the mortgage for my sister, I started taking extra precautions

616
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: with my finances, locking down my credit pulling my fone

617
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: credit reports like you all suggested. I wanted to be

618
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 2: absolutely sure no one could use my information without me knowing.

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00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: That's when I stubbled on an active credit card I

620
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: didn't open. Some of you guys warned me. I guess

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00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: I wasn't fast enough to lock down. It's been around

622
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: for a couple of years now. It was being used,

623
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: but I'm assuming my parents wanted to keep it from

624
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: me with the intention of using it as leverage. As

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00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: of yesterday, the statement's show purchases that look a lot

626
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: like household expenses. You're not buying a house. I wonder

627
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: who in your family's buying a house. The building address

628
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: on file points right back to my parents's home. I

629
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: confront with them via text because I'm currently a couple

630
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: hours away with a close friend. They claimed I benefited

631
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: from it from these expenses, which doesn't make much sense

632
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: because they never helped me with setting up my own apartment. Also,

633
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 2: it explains why they assumed I'd be okay with co signing.

634
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: Turns out they've been using my credit for a while.

635
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because remember their credits are not that great.

636
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: You know, his credits really good? Yours op. Needless to say,

637
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: I feel completely betrayed. This wasn't some tiny oversight. My

638
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: parents have been quietly using my name to fund their expenses.

639
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: Now I'm talking to a professional to figure out whether

640
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: I should dispute the charges or close the account outright

641
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: without tanking my own credit in the process. Yes, smart.

642
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: It's nerve racking.

643
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: Realizing how they went behind my back even before this

644
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: mortgage bs. At this point, I'm even more determined to

645
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: move out of the state to get distance from all

646
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: of this. My job is thankfully remote friendly, so relocating

647
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: won't wreck my career. My friends have been amazing offering support,

648
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: so I don't completely lose my mind. If it weren't

649
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: for them, I'd be a mess right now. And there's

650
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: no real good segue. But by the way, you can

651
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: listen to full episodes with stories just like this. Just

652
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Speaker 2: go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app

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Speaker 2: and just search Okay story Time we have another relevant

654
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Speaker 2: update and could have finish the story, but Riley, anything

655
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: else to add.

656
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: Dude, this is scared.

657
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 5: I just like I can't even imagine my parents doing

658
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 5: this to me.

659
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: The parents were like, we adopted her because she's going

660
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: to be very, very successful, and we're gonna use that

661
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: as leverage. We did a bad job, but we'll use

662
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: her to be a good job. I'm not trying to

663
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: be vindictive or over dramatic. I just need to protect myself.

664
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: The trust is gone, and I don't see how I

665
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: can maintain a healthy relationship with people who thought this

666
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: was okay. I would also bring this up to your sister, like, hey,

667
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: because guess what if they can do this to me,

668
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: so they're probably gonna do it to you if you're successful.

669
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,239
Speaker 2: It's sad and I wish you didn't come to this,

670
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: but I've got to prioritize my own future. I'll let

671
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: you know if anything else make sure happens, but for now,

672
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: I'm focused on fully separating my finances from my family,

673
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: getting ready to move, and making sure I don't pay

674
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: the price credit wise for something I never agreed to.

675
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: It's scary, but I'm hoping it'll be worth it to

676
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: finally have a life and a credit score of my own.

677
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: And we have some relevant comments comments. You're one, well,

678
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: if they open credit in your name, that is considered

679
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: an identity theft. You should file a police report. Let

680
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: the chips fall where they have me a and that

681
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: looks like a couple of comments also state police reports.

682
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, wow, that's gross.

683
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, get away from your family. You don't need them.

684
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: You were very smart, you did your best and they

685
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: stull gotcha.

686
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: But you live on.

687
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: You're gonna be fine. But that's the end of that story.

688
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 5: My fiance's parents criticized me NonStop, so they're not invited

689
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 5: to my wedding.

690
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: What in loss?

691
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 5: My now fiance, Jim, and I have always been rocky

692
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 5: with his parents. I have no contact with my family

693
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 5: due to abuse, and met Jim's parents at a very

694
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 5: uncertain and scary time for me. By the way, this

695
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 5: comes from Angel of Music five in the artsash Okay

696
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 5: story tom soeu abreut it. So they never particularly liked

697
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 5: me and thought I was weird because of how nervous

698
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 5: I was. However, I had a good reason. Jim still

699
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 5: lived with them at the time, and I heard a

700
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 5: lot about how controlling they were. His dad had some

701
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 5: issue with looking at inappropriate content and lying about it

702
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 5: in the past, so I won't fully go into that,

703
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 5: but basically never took accountability for it. Jim's mom, Becky,

704
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 5: not only enabled him, but projected onto Jim and became

705
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 5: hyper controlling in his teenage years. She assumed he would

706
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 5: do the same thing just as he was mal and

707
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 5: didn't let him watch any movies where a woman wore

708
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 5: tight clothes. Even cartoons allowed and was not allowed because

709
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 5: Jasmine's design, and it even got to the point where

710
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 5: Happy Feet was banned because penguins moved.

711
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: Whostanly, what what is this story that we're reading?

712
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 4: Oh?

713
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 5: Jim was also not allowed to have Instagram or Facebook

714
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 5: until he was eighteen for fear he might see inappropriate pictures.

715
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 5: You're just like holding back a crazy animal. This same

716
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 5: restrictions were not placed on his sister. Jim's first relationship,

717
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 5: which happened when he was eighteen, ended because the girl

718
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 5: could not stand how awful Becky was. She grounded him

719
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 5: from seeing her a week because he posted a picture

720
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 5: of them kissing. Jim was stuck obey because he wasn't

721
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 5: financially able to move out, and was still caught in

722
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 5: the process of realizing how extreme this was. When the

723
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 5: girl broke up with him, His mom refused to admit

724
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 5: that she had a role in it and just ignored it,

725
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 5: while he struggled with severe depression for several months and

726
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 5: later told him he had hurt the family, spending a

727
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 5: lot of time in his room and trying to process everything.

728
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 5: I met Jim through my family's business. We had become

729
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 5: best friends and then fell in love. He helped me

730
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 5: break out of and gain independence another story, and we've

731
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 5: been together ever since. When I met his family, Becky

732
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 5: was as hard on me as she had been on

733
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 5: his first girlfriend, but it was bad enough. She criticized

734
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 5: every move I made. Was always behind my back. I

735
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 5: talked too much, didn't talk enough, didn't make enough contact.

736
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 5: Did it look like I was listening. There was always

737
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 5: a problem. When Jim tried to stick up for me,

738
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 5: she would just overrule him and insist she was right.

739
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 5: If we tried to explain she was making me nervous,

740
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 5: she got offended because she wasn't doing anything to make

741
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 5: me nervous. I was just trying to act like she

742
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 5: was my mother. Her other biggest issue was with my clothes.

743
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 5: She's extremely picky about what women should wear, especially curvier women.

744
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 2: Well not Jasmin. Come on, she's back to Jasmine from Aladdin.

745
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 5: I wasn't even allowed to wear anything below my collarbone

746
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 5: in her house because I would be tempting her struggling

747
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 5: husband to look I am curvy with a big bust,

748
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 5: big hips, and she didn't particularly like that. Jim chose

749
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 5: a curvy girl at all. Maybe insecure she is. My

750
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 5: button leggings was a problem, but they always poke phone

751
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 5: at me for wearing skirts, which I like to do.

752
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 5: I have chronic pain conditions that make jeanes really uncomfortable

753
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 5: to wear, so a lot of times I at a

754
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 5: loss to what they wanted from me. I of course

755
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 5: dressed the way I wanted outside of her home, but

756
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 5: she would see my Facebook photos and complain. I thought

757
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 5: about unfriending her, but that would have caused so much offense.

758
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 5: I didn't want to put Jim through that. He was

759
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 5: already dealing with getting treated badly by his sister, unfairly

760
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 5: by his dad, and trying to juggle college and getting

761
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 5: a second job to be able to move out and

762
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 5: I just wanted to be there as little drama as possible,

763
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 5: just until we could get a place together. We also

764
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 5: started to notice her rules were very inconsistent. Jim's sister, Sidney,

765
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 5: would wear things I definitely wouldn't be permitted to wear

766
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 5: in Becky's house.

767
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, because guess what, Dad's not going to be tempted

768
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: with Cindy's daughter, but you are not.

769
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 5: Becky indicated this was because Cindy was more petite. This

770
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 5: made it clear her problem wasn't even with my clothing style.

771
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 5: It was with my body, which made me very uncomfortable.

772
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 5: Clothes are one thing, but I can't change the size

773
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 5: and shape of my hips. And so moving forward a

774
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 5: little bit to when Cindy began dating a guy, we

775
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 5: expected her to go through what Jim and I went

776
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 5: through upon introduction, but they didn't. Becky fell all over

777
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 5: Sidney's boyfriend, welcomed him with open arms, made up cute

778
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 5: nicknames for him, and literally would gaze at him while

779
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 5: we sat at the table.

780
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: The double standard. I wonder what mister Dad's saying in this.

781
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 5: Jim and I figured she was living vicariously through Sydney.

782
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 5: Were just planed, liked him because she was always showed

783
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 5: signs of preferring Sydney to Jim. She didn't like any

784
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 5: girl Jim ever was interested in, but absolutely adored Sidney's guy.

785
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 5: Another note, she had an issue with everything with me,

786
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 5: but Sidney's guy was a different religion than her. Based

787
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 5: on all Becky's opinions and views, that should have been

788
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 5: a huge problem, but she didn't seem to care. In

789
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 5: the slightest. Jim was really hurt by the difference. We

790
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 5: weren't allowed to do anything other than hold hands around them.

791
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 5: If we hugged or put her arms out to one another.

792
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 5: Becky would complain and tell Jim we needed to act

793
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 5: like friends. But Sidney could straight up slap her guys

794
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 5: but in the kitchen, and Becky acted like it was cute.

795
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 5: This is gross that in a mix of other things.

796
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 5: Blew up and Jim and I put a deposit down

797
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 5: on an apartment. Of course, holy heck. Blew up at

798
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 5: the prospect of Jim living with me unmarried, but Becky

799
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 5: realized he was serious and seemed to calm down out

800
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 5: of worry she might lose a relationship. After moving out,

801
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 5: things got better. We saw them about once a month

802
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 5: for holidays instead of every Sunday. We all got along better.

803
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 5: They seemed genuinely happy to see us. For about two months,

804
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 5: Sydney began pulling her entitled crap again, Jim's dad began

805
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 5: being overly authoritarian, and Becky started nitpicking again. It didn't

806
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 5: get far before the big issue started. Jim does a

807
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 5: lot of theater and we got involved with the production

808
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 5: of Macbeth. Jim was co directing and I was Lady Macbeth.

809
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 5: Jim adored Shakespeare and this was a big deal, but

810
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 5: it also became a very stressful process. We got stuck

811
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 5: putting together costumes last minute that we didn't know would

812
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 5: be our responsibility. And we had been hold a great

813
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 5: flashy red formal gown for me to wear in the

814
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 5: banquet scene. I found the highest quality one I could

815
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 5: afford that still had a full skirt and wasn't stretchy

816
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 5: and cheap, and it was off the shoulder and showed

817
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 5: some cleavlage. I asked Jim if it was okay since

818
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 5: his mom would come to the show. He said, I

819
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 5: really don't care. They've come to my show where girls

820
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 5: wore low cut stuff. Before they'll complain I don't have

821
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 5: to plan my show around their opinions.

822
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 4: I wore the dress.

823
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 5: They came to the show and walked out at intermission.

824
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: These people are so like Pg. Thirteen.

825
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 5: I don't understand why just because the dad had a

826
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 5: problem doesn't mean like op has a problem, Like.

827
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 2: Come on, I got a problem with Becky, Becky, come.

828
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 5: On and eat these fists. The entire cast was shocked.

829
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 5: I only wore the dress for fifteen minutes on a

830
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 5: tall stage from thirty feet away from them. It wasn't

831
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 5: that bad. Everyone was extremely supportive of Jim, which was great,

832
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 5: but we knew it wasn't over yet. The fact is

833
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 5: his mom was willing to walk out of the middle

834
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 5: of a show Jim directed when she knew how much

835
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 5: theater means to him, thelor to me. When she called

836
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 5: him a few days later, she was self righteous and accusatory,

837
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 5: calling him a bad boyfriend for letting me go on

838
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 5: stage like that and claiming he did it on purpose.

839
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 5: Jim told her it was literally the best one we

840
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 5: could find, and she said she didn't believe him. He

841
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 5: began pointing out all of her inconsistency, how she still

842
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 5: watches Titanic Pearl Harbor because she likes them, and how

843
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 5: she didn't leave other family events when girls were dressed

844
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 5: in lower cut stuff than me. It was just because

845
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 5: it was me. She began gaslighting and denying. She said

846
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 5: those things, said she was perfectly justified to leave the show,

847
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 5: and they were wrong to have a problem with it.

848
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 5: She said, we were choosing to take offense when she

849
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 5: was just speaking truth. Jim told her, yes, them leaving

850
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 5: was a consequence of our actions, but us having a

851
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 5: problem was a consequence of theirs, and needed to put

852
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 5: herself in our shoes and take some account of it.

853
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 5: Ended with nothing getting resolved. A few days later, I

854
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 5: ran across a very good article about how society treats

855
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 5: women when men look at them in gross ways, how

856
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 5: we need to stop transferring the shame to the women,

857
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 5: and remember that even in the Bible Jesus said to

858
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 5: pluck out your eye if you're looking at a woman

859
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 5: with lustful thoughts, and not to tell the woman to

860
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 5: change her clothes. I reshared the article because I liked it.

861
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 5: Q Becky blowing up publicly on the post about what

862
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 5: about the her wife of the man who has to

863
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 5: see him look at inappropriate women. Why does no one

864
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 5: care about her? I replied as politely as I could,

865
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 5: pointing out that that wasn't the topic of the particular post,

866
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 5: and that there were plenty of resources of wives of

867
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 5: men who struggle therapy, church groups, support groups, et cetera,

868
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 5: while mainly pointing fingers at women who get dejeptified, many

869
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Speaker 5: of whom don't even know they're being looked at, or

870
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 5: like me, getting objectified no matter how we dress, I

871
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 5: get hit on a work when I'm wearing a black polo.

872
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,959
Speaker 5: Becky continued on berating a lecture, and I snapped back,

873
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 5: telling her I was tired of her criticism and I'm

874
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 5: perfectly within my rights to share my opinion on the subject,

875
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 5: considering she does that constantly and I never rate her publicly.

876
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 5: When I disagree, we sitch to texting and continue arguing

877
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 5: for a few texts. Jim's dad finally showed himself in

878
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 5: a few nasty texts to Jim as well, which was

879
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 5: bold considering his past behavior, because their entire issue for

880
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 5: the family, and he's never apologized. This family's horrible.

881
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 2: I'm out of this family.

882
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 5: I think that Becky is a Christian. How can you

883
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 5: live life with this much bitter and hate your heart? Really, like,

884
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 5: this is crazy to me. People deal with stuff, people

885
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 5: struggle with sin, Like, girl, you gotta cope a different way. Man,

886
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 5: this is crazy.

887
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: Every woman's the devil.

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00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: If I tell.

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Speaker 5: You not to think about an elephant, what are you

890
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 5: gonna think about? No, you're gonna think about elephants. What

891
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 5: you need to do if you're a Christian, you need

892
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 5: to think about God and love Jesus more in this case.

893
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 5: But it just seems like she's like, no, no, no,

894
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 5: instead of like looking at something else. If you was

895
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 5: like don't look at this, don't look at this, you're

896
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 5: gonna look at it. It's gonna make it worse. Rather

897
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 5: think about and do other things.

898
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: Becky is just thinking about Op's curves and how Becky

899
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 2: can never be what Op is because Becky's husband never

900
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: looks at her the way that ever looks at Op.

901
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 5: Then, without giving me time to respond, Becky texted Jim

902
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 5: and told him she was cutting contact until we had

903
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 5: a change of heart. Jim was furious and sent them

904
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 5: each a final message detailing all the crap they did

905
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 5: again and gaslit him about for years and said maybe

906
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 5: some distance would be beneficial. We had her own little

907
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 5: nose stress Thanksgiving, and then Jim proposed to me. It

908
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 5: had been well known that he was going to propose,

909
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 5: but Jim didn't reach out or tell his family when

910
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 5: he was going to except for his grandmother who lives

911
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 5: out of state. His family said nothing, didn't reach out anything,

912
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 5: which was pretty normal for them, as they always refuse

913
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 5: to acknowledge our dating anniversaries or any smaller couple milestones

914
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 5: in the past. Then, just before Christmas, Becky reached out.

915
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 5: She told Jim a package had been accidentally delivered to

916
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 5: their house and cheerfully invited him to come over and

917
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 5: they'd love to see him accidentally.

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00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 2: Okay.

919
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 5: Jim was even angrier at this because not only were

920
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 5: they not acknowledging this milestone in his life, not acknowledging

921
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 5: me at all, they were just acting like nothing had

922
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 5: happened and things should just pop back into normal. And

923
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 5: if you want the opposite of normal, you need to

924
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Speaker 5: go to your favorite podcast platform, search up Okay, storytime

925
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Speaker 5: and listen to stories just like this. We got tons

926
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Speaker 5: far from normal.

927
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Speaker 1: We got a little bit more.

928
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 5: But this family is ridiculous and crazy.

929
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: They already did the thing. We're like, we're gonna cut contact.

930
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: You're like, okay, bye, great, you ripped off the band

931
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Speaker 2: aid for.

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Speaker 5: Us, great, Thank you appreciate it. I didn't want to

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Speaker 5: talk to you anyways.

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Speaker 2: They're the type of people that you cannot change. It's

935
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: just the I'm always right, you're always wrong kind of thing.

936
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Speaker 2: And that's what Becky is. She's like, whatever I think

937
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Speaker 2: is right and what everyone else thinks is wrong.

938
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Speaker 1: It's just crazy.

939
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 5: He told his mom, don't think that would be a

940
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 5: good idea, since I haven't had a change of heart.

941
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 5: She responded by saying she didn't know what he was

942
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 5: talking about and trying to rephrase her contact cutting text.

943
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 5: He proceeded to ignore her since gaslighting is such a

944
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 5: pattern and there's no talking to her when she does that.

945
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 5: He hasn't responded and doesn't feel ready to reach out,

946
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 5: and they haven't said anything else. Our wedding is set

947
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 5: for October, and the say of the dates are going

948
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 5: out in March, so they have three months to shape

949
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 5: up or they will not be invited. Neither of us

950
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 5: really want them. There a case of love them but

951
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 5: don't like them. For Jim and a genuine dislike for me,

952
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 5: But of course if they make nice, we will invite them.

953
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 5: But there's going to have to be accountability and acceptance

954
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 5: of our alternate views. And we seriously don't see that happening.

955
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 5: Absolutely not.

956
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: I don't see that happening either. Or it's fake, like

957
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: they just come and then they'll say something and you're like, okay,

958
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 2: well you tried. Do we try and give him a chance.

959
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 2: Do we tell them that okay?

960
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 5: Do we want to be stressed out at our own

961
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 5: wedding that should be about us? Or do we have

962
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 5: a good wedding and don't invite them?

963
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, your wedding, your rules, you know did

964
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Speaker 2: lingo opie.

965
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Speaker 5: You know what's right and you know what to do.

966
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Speaker 5: And that's the end of that story.

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Speaker 4: I refuse to supply drinks for my sister's party. She

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Speaker 4: got me arrested.

973
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Speaker 1: Oh you pulled the opposite of the tea pain.

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00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, she said, I won't buy you no drinks.

975
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 4: This happened some years ago. I'm in my thirties now,

976
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 4: but back then I was twenty two, my sister was

977
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 4: eighteen and was my mom's golden child. My dad thankfully

978
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 4: has a good head on his shoulders and always called

979
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 4: my sister out on her crap, but my mom's interference

980
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 4: always meant my sister got off easy. Anyway, this is

981
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Speaker 4: what happened back then. By the way, this comes from

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Speaker 4: Times Separate it. My parents decided to take action to

985
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Speaker 4: ski in Aspen and let my sister watch the house

986
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 4: for them. They told her no parties, but that was

987
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 4: a rule she straight up ignored. A day after our

988
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 4: parents left, my sister started sending out invites to a party,

989
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 4: and she was promising free illegal drinks. I didn't see

990
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 4: that post just yet, but my sister called me and

991
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 4: asked me to go get drinks for her party because

992
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 4: I was over twenty one and could legally buy it.

993
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 4: She also wanted me to pay for it and said

994
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 4: she'd invite me to the party and introduced me to

995
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 4: an easy girl h in order to pay me back.

996
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 4: I told her that I wasn't going to break the law.

997
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 4: To make her happy. She should never have told people

998
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 4: her party would have illegal drinks. She screamed at me

999
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 4: over the phone that I was ruining her life and

1000
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 4: that she couldn't take back the invites now that they

1001
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 4: were all over her Facebook.

1002
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: Ooh see, now that's where you messed up.

1003
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 4: I told her that what she did was release and

1004
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 4: she and her friends were all underage, so it's illegal.

1005
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 4: She tried to say it only be illegal if I

1006
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 4: narked on them. I said I wouldn't nark, but I

1007
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 4: wasn't going to buy her drinks either. She screamed at

1008
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 4: me some more, so I hung up the phone. Well,

1009
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 4: that night, my sister had the party and someone called

1010
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 4: the police for underage drinking. After being arrested and confronted

1011
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 4: by police later on, my sister threw me under the

1012
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 4: bus and said that I'd supplied the drinks she was using.

1013
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 4: Turns out she broke into dad's liquor cabinet and thought

1014
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 4: it'd be better to frame me for her crime. Police

1015
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 4: came and arrested me at my apartment the day after

1016
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 4: the party. They seemed already convinced I was guilty and

1017
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 4: didn't really listen to me when I said I was

1018
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 4: never there, but I willingly cooperated with them At the station,

1019
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 4: I told them the whole story and got them to

1020
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 4: look at my sister's Facebook post. Thankfully, there were a

1021
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 4: few people there who listened to me, but I still

1022
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 4: had to sit the night out in the cell while

1023
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 4: my parents were called. My mom and dad flew back

1024
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 4: home over night and bailed out both my sister and I,

1025
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 4: but my mom tried to make my dad leave me

1026
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 4: in jail because my sister had told them her lies

1027
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 4: as well, but my dad took the time to talk

1028
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 4: to me and look at my sister's Facebook though he

1029
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 4: believed me. This caused a fight between him and my mom.

1030
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 4: When they got home. My dad discovered my sister had

1031
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 4: broken into his liquor cabinet and spoke to police on

1032
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 4: my behalf. My mom, however, still wanted the blame to

1033
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 4: fall on me, because, as she put it, the charges

1034
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 4: would ruin a baby's future, but if she's under eighteen,

1035
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 4: it would probably ruin it way less than if OP

1036
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 4: got charged. Because he's an adult.

1037
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: I think it's more of probably an immediate thing.

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00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 6: I bet you would screw up like college admissions and

1039
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 6: like stuff like that, but probably but they probably guess what, Yeah,

1040
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 6: that much, it's going.

1041
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: To ruin the other person's life as well.

1042
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 4: Honestly, it would probably ruin his way more if he

1043
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 4: had a charge like that than she had, just like

1044
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 4: an underage.

1045
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: It's a very not respectable felony to have.

1046
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 4: But my innocence was further proven by the fact that

1047
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 4: I and my car were seen on CCTV when I

1048
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 4: left work and when I arrived at home soon after,

1049
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 4: As the apartment I was living in then had CCTV

1050
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 4: cameras to watch the parking lot. My car did not

1051
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 4: move from there for the rest of the day and night.

1052
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 4: In my sister's story to police, I had driven out

1053
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 4: and gotten the drinks for her, but I wasn't seen

1054
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 4: on CCTV in any liquor store in the county, and

1055
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Speaker 4: my bank account showed no transactions buying drinks. My parents'

1056
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 4: house also had a camera at the front door, and

1057
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 4: my car was never seen in the driveway that day.

1058
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Speaker 4: After being confronted with those facts, my sister's story changed

1059
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Speaker 4: to saying I already had the drinks and gave it

1060
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Speaker 4: to her at my apartment, but my sister's car had

1061
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 4: never showed up at my apartment either, and there was

1062
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 4: like three cheap bias in my apartment. Fringe and Noah

1063
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 4: had rags. My sister finally had to give up on

1064
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 4: her lies, and my parents were severely disappointed in her,

1065
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 4: but my mom still tried to convince me to take

1066
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 4: the fall for my sister. She came to my apartment

1067
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Speaker 4: and actually demanded that I tell police that it was

1068
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Speaker 4: all my fault. I said, I wasn't going to ruin

1069
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Speaker 4: my future for my sister. She refused to leave and

1070
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Speaker 4: went from demanding to begging. She even got on her

1071
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Speaker 4: knees and tried to convince me that she and Dad

1072
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Speaker 4: would make everything okay in the long run if I

1073
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Speaker 4: just took the blame. Are these people who are so

1074
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Speaker 4: rich and connected they.

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Speaker 6: Don't worry, sweetie, Please we'll pay the jodge, just please.

1076
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Speaker 1: It's like, well't you just do that? Anyway?

1077
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Speaker 4: What I'm imagining is ten things I hate about you?

1078
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 4: The guy who throws the party like that house. That's

1079
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 4: what I'm thinking. I said, I'd rather live my life

1080
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 4: poor than have that felony on my record. She threw

1081
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 4: a huge fit and started throwing things because I refused

1082
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Speaker 4: to do as she wanted. I threatened to call police,

1083
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Speaker 4: and she left my apartment cussing me out like a

1084
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 4: mad woman. I've never heard so many f bombs out

1085
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 4: of her before or since. I called my dad right

1086
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 4: away and told him everything that happened. He was insanely

1087
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 4: pissed and got into a huge fight with my mom

1088
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 4: as soon as she got home. She didn't even deny

1089
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 4: anything she said or did, because she deemed it would

1090
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 4: have been for the greater good of their daughter. But

1091
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 4: my dad told her that she couldn't destroy me to

1092
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 4: save my sister. Then he threatened to divorce her if

1093
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 4: she didn't try and make things right. She ended up

1094
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 4: sobbing and then saying she'd do whatever he wanted. My

1095
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 4: dad said that it was couples in family counseling, or

1096
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 4: it was divorced. Wow, my mom signed a prenup before

1097
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 4: she married him and really had no choice in the

1098
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 4: family counseling. I called her out on how she always

1099
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 4: believed my sister's lies. My sister tried to say they

1100
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 4: were not lies, but each one I pointed out from

1101
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 4: over the years that otherwise I'd taken the time to

1102
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 4: write a list of all the ones I could remember

1103
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 4: from the past decade that had all been proven. She lied,

1104
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 4: and my mom and sister were forced to stay silent

1105
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 4: as I read them all. They tried to interject repeatedly,

1106
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 4: but my dad and the counselors silenced them. My sister,

1107
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 4: now proved beyond doubt to be a liar and a manipulator,

1108
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 4: just shut down and refused to say anything more to

1109
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 4: the counselor, and my mom finally apologized to me, but

1110
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 4: it was obviously a forced apology because she looked so

1111
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 4: uncomfortable doing it. I told her that her apology was

1112
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 4: very fake, and after so many years of favoritism, the

1113
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 4: dam wage was already done. My relationship with her never

1114
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 4: really recovered because she was convinced I was guilty no

1115
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 4: matter what was said until my sister admitted the truth

1116
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 4: and then wanted me to pretend to be the guilty

1117
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 4: one anyway to protect her favorite child, but nothing went

1118
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 4: her way, so she just went back to crying about it.

1119
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 4: When my sister went to court, my mom pleaded with

1120
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 4: the judge to go easy on my sister for the

1121
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 4: charges of underage drinking.

1122
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: Other underaged people drank.

1123
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 4: As well as attempting to frame me for the crime.

1124
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 4: She also resisted arrest when the police came and shut

1125
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 4: down the party. She was a very franky, she was

1126
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 4: dranked out, she was ranked out, she was dranked up

1127
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 4: when it happened. They kept her in a cell of

1128
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 4: her night to sober up, and then she told police

1129
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 4: I'd been the one to provide a lot rank my

1130
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 4: mom's begging along with the relentless lawyer my parents hired,

1131
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 4: got the judge to cut a deal provided my sister

1132
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 4: pled guilty, which she did not want to do, but

1133
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 4: her lawyer highly recommended she takes a deal to avoid

1134
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 4: jail time because there was no other way of keeping

1135
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 4: her from getting a felony on her record.

1136
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 6: Wow, she's such an entitled golden child. She's even like

1137
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 6: trying to argue with the lawyer, like no, I don't

1138
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 6: want to, like I didn't do it.

1139
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 3: He's like, oh, yeah, ah, you don't know how good

1140
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 3: of a deal you're geting.

1141
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: Okay.

1142
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 4: My sister's lawyer used the fact that the drank had

1143
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 4: not been bought that day, but rather had already been

1144
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 4: in the house long before the party happened to help

1145
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 4: lessen the charts. My sister's Facebook had also been completely

1146
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 4: deleted by her as soon as she was able to

1147
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 4: in order to hide the post. The judge just wanted

1148
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 4: the case over with, so my sister got off with

1149
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 4: a huge fine that our mom paid most of out

1150
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 4: of her pocket and a couple of years probation. She

1151
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 4: was also made to get therapy too by our dad.

1152
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 4: She's never really showed actual remorse for what she did

1153
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 4: and only had animosity for me no matter how in

1154
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 4: the wrong she was. She was eventually diagnosed as a

1155
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 4: nartist after Dad made her go see a doctor. After

1156
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 4: her probation and four years of college were over, she

1157
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 4: decided she was going to leave home for California and

1158
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 4: never come back once she landed a good job. She

1159
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 4: currently works in an office in LA and we've not

1160
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 4: spoken for years. Dad got her that job, and she's

1161
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 4: not really shown any appreciation for it. Even my mom

1162
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 4: has given up on her ever coming home for the

1163
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 4: holidays and us being a family again. It tore her

1164
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 4: up inside for a few years, but now she's just bitter.

1165
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 4: He doesn't really blame me anymore, but we only seem

1166
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 4: to show indifference to each other just because my sister

1167
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 4: cut her off. Wouldn't make me the new de facto favorite.

1168
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 4: It just means my mom lost her baby and isn't

1169
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 4: getting her back. Shocking that the sister cut everyone off.

1170
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:20,919
Speaker 4: They all helped her.

1171
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 6: Well, I mean that it's the diagnosis.

1172
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's like, no, it's all about me and the

1173
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 4: fact that you get me completely.

1174
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 1: Off revenge justice her.

1175
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 2: Place.

1176
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm getting any consequences I don't appreciate.

1177
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 6: Well, I think that she should have been made to

1178
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 6: pay back at the cost of that fine.

1179
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: Whatever the fine.

1180
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 4: She's her baby, he's her golden child, and it seems

1181
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 4: like they're probably pretty rich. She can't leave my dad

1182
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 4: because she's too relying on him. Despite having her own career,

1183
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 4: she'd never want to be on her own again, so

1184
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,479
Speaker 4: she's just become a shell of her former self. Things

1185
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 4: between me and my dad are still great. He's pretty

1186
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 4: much disowned my sister for what she's done and has

1187
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 4: stopped caring if she'll ever talk to him again. He

1188
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 4: and my mom don't even sleep in the same bedroom anymore.

1189
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 4: She moved into the guest room some five years ago.

1190
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: And I stayed there.

1191
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 4: Dang, they liked this family collapsed.

1192
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean one bad apple.

1193
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, their marriage is really only one on paper. These

1194
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 4: days info, it's a felony or misdemeanor to provide rank

1195
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 4: to miners. And my sister provided stolen drank to at

1196
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 4: least a dozen people who were under twenty one. Then

1197
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 4: she resisted to rest and tried to frame me bite

1198
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 4: lying to the police. The fact that she got off

1199
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 4: easy thanks to the shark tooth lawyer my parents hire

1200
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 4: for my sister was incredibly lucky, not that she was

1201
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 4: ever appreciative. The jot hit her with a fine for

1202
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 4: each person she gave Frank two wow, which added up.

1203
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 4: How did he know how many people were at that party?

1204
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: Maybe he was there.

1205
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 4: He was like it was about like so many people there.

1206
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: He's like, Hey, that party was way too cool.

1207
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 4: The party was off the chain. Yeah, and with the

1208
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 4: cost of the lawyer, Well, my parents were out a

1209
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 4: lot of money. Edit. Yes my parents are wealthy. Yes, yes,

1210
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 4: my parents are wealthy. And you know that means that

1211
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 4: the rich rich in case says, my parents so wealthy.

1212
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 4: The ski trip to Aspin didn't tip you off, especially

1213
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 4: my dad as he's a business owner. He owns several businesses.

1214
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 2: Actually, we didn't need that one.

1215
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 4: One big one and a few smaller ones. He even

1216
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,919
Speaker 4: owns one of the local gas stations, and the town

1217
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 4: we live in is full of board police that are

1218
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 4: just itching to get some action. Also heard that a

1219
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 4: couple of the miners arrested at the party were the

1220
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 4: kids of police as well. Yikes, which did not help

1221
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 4: my aunts when the cops came for me. I also

1222
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 4: went out of my way to provide some of the evidence,

1223
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 4: like the CCTV from my job, my apartment complex, and

1224
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 4: my big statements showing I didn't buy the rank. The

1225
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 4: rest my dad pushed for. He had a lawyer get

1226
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 4: the CCTV from every liquor store in the county for

1227
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 4: that day, though my mom tried to talk him out

1228
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 4: of doing so. In the end, this took way too

1229
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 4: much to prove my sister was a liar because she

1230
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 4: tried to stick to her story hard, even after my

1231
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 4: parents discovered she got the drank from my dad's liquor

1232
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 4: cabinin And yes, my parents lost a ton of money

1233
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 4: basically paying off the court to dismiss most of my

1234
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 4: sister's charges. My sister had to pay like ten percent.

1235
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 4: That's about it. And that's just the little bit, my

1236
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 4: parents made her pay. They still paid for her college

1237
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 4: after that as well. Though people calling this out as

1238
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 4: rich people drama are exactly right because it is just

1239
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 4: that at the time this went on, I was still

1240
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 4: in college myself, but my dad insisted I have a

1241
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 4: part time job to learn the value of work, and

1242
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 4: he was exactly right about that. My family is wealthy,

1243
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 4: but my dad tried to keep me from acting spoiled

1244
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 4: growing up. I even bought my own first car with

1245
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 4: money iron work in part time. But I can't say

1246
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 4: the same for my sister, as my mom treated her

1247
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 4: like a princess. The rest of the family as a

1248
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 4: whole also hates my sister after what she did back then,

1249
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 4: so there wasn't much love lost when she ghosted us,

1250
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 4: save for my mom. She cried about it often for

1251
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 4: an entire year. And edit two. Yes this happened in

1252
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 4: the US, and yes it was the way police arrested me.

1253
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 4: My dad had some pretty strong words with them about that,

1254
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 4: but I guess the cops have nothing to better to do,

1255
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 4: and the arrest was expunged for my record after I

1256
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 4: was proven innocent. But as someone in the comments pointed out,

1257
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 4: it's scary how easily your freedom can be taken away.

1258
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 4: I've instinctively avoided police ever since that happened. For them,

1259
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 4: arresting the son of a rich guy must have been

1260
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 4: a big scandal waiting to happen. And you know what

1261
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 4: else is a big scandal? Tell me, you guys not

1262
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 4: listening to full episodes with stories like this on Spotify,

1263
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 4: Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast app. Just search up

1264
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 4: Pokey story Time. Why would you not be listening to us?

1265
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 4: It's a scandal and there is a little bit left

1266
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 4: to the story. But do you have final thoughts for op?

1267
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: I would say you did good, you did the right thing.

1268
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, clearly, you guys, you're probably you know, it's it's

1269
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 6: hard realizing you better off without a family, Memba, it's hard.

1270
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 6: So it sounds like the mom's gonna need to get

1271
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 6: therapy to really compute that.

1272
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but it seems like she's like pretty like

1273
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 4: broken down. Yeah.

1274
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 6: I think it's got to be hard, like your kid

1275
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 6: cutting you off has you got to be hard? But

1276
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 6: it's like it's coming from a place of like negativity, right,

1277
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 6: So I don't know, but there is a little.

1278
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 4: Bit more to this story, and no one was injured

1279
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 4: as a result of a dui. But I've spoken with

1280
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 4: my dad and he said there were a few DUIs

1281
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 4: because a few of the miners that got in their

1282
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 4: cars and tried to drive away. Considering I heard a

1283
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 4: few of the people there were the kids. The police

1284
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 4: officers that only made things look things worse for me.

1285
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 4: The cops that arrested me both looked middle aged, so

1286
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 4: if their kids were involved, that may explain why they

1287
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 4: treated me like I was guilty. Those who say this

1288
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 4: is fake, I wish it was, because it's so that

1289
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 4: it really should be. But my ungrateful sister broke our family,

1290
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 4: and she nearly destroyed my reputation. These days, everyone in

1291
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 4: town has forgotten her. She lost most, if not all,

1292
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 4: of her friends after that party because they were all arrested.

1293
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 4: It is obviously her fault about everything else, but kind

1294
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 4: of great to be like, I got a rest in

1295
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 4: for underrage drinking, and that's your fall.

1296
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: Like you went to the party, you drank.

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Speaker 6: My entitled aunt wants my life because she couldn't have

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Speaker 6: a daughter.

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Speaker 4: That's my life.

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Speaker 6: Get your own, ecky angel of my life. I've gotta admit.

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Speaker 6: My poor dad has told me numerous stories of my

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Speaker 6: entitled aunt Sarah fifty female maake name. So I wanted

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Speaker 6: to write these down because there are a few I

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Speaker 6: want to remember before I twenty one female forget they're

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Speaker 6: in chronological order.

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Speaker 4: oOoOO very impressible. Pete love that.

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Speaker 6: By the way, this comes from user Skeleton eighteen fifty one,

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Speaker 6: and you can submit your stories on the r slash

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Speaker 6: okay storytime subreddit.

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Speaker 1: So here's some background.

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Speaker 6: My entitled aunt Sarah is the eldest of three kids.

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Speaker 6: There's her and then my aunt Tory or ooh, so

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Speaker 6: I gotta keep the aunts in the aunts consistent. Here

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Speaker 6: my aunt Tory forty seven female and my dad forty

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Speaker 6: six male. All players have their own kids. Sarah has

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Speaker 6: three boys, which is important for later Tory has three girls,

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Speaker 6: and my dad has a boy and a girl. Feel

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Speaker 6: free to share. I'd be happy to share more stories,

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01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 6: as my entitled aunt isn't the only entitled woman in

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01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 6: my family. Here's the beginning. Sarah was deemed the brain

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Speaker 6: of Britain, growing up always top of her class and

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Speaker 6: never getting into bother at school, so she willingly stayed

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01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 6: until the last year of high school so she could

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01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 6: get better grades to go to university. Mind you, this

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01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 6: is in the eighties and I don't really know if

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01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 6: there was tuition covered in Scotland, but I doubt it.

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01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 6: So Sarah declared she would be taking a gap year

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01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 6: to work and go to university the following year. At nineteen, however,

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01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 6: she met her future husband, butt Face that's what he

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01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 6: will be known as, and he was from a decently

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01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 6: well off family. This is what my aunt Tory declares

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01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 6: is the start of her entitlement, since butt Face told

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Speaker 6: her she never had to work a day again if

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Speaker 6: they got married.

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Speaker 1: They didn't marry until two.

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Speaker 6: Years later, but butt Face gave Sarah the life she

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01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 6: wanted and felt she deserved after a childhood of poverty

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01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 6: and hiding from social workers. Fair to say, she never

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01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 6: did apply for university at nineteen or any point after that.

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Speaker 6: My grandfather, her father, was so angry with her because

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01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 6: he felt she was wasting her future for a life

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01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 6: of sitting about. Obviously, Sarah didn't care Britain. Sarah's the

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01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 6: brain of Britain and she used that big brain to

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01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 6: get herself a sugar daddy.

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01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: Onto the marriage and children.

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01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 6: Here, Yes, butt Face and Sarah did get married and

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01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 6: it was a lovely affair.

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Speaker 1: Apparently I didn't even know. I wasn't born yet.

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Speaker 6: Now I should mention that my entitled aunt is incredibly

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01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 6: religious and this was brought on more by her marriage.

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01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 6: She had to wait until she was married to have

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Speaker 6: a child because quote, the elders in the church will

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01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 6: speak so badly if I had a child out of wedlock. Woman,

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01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 6: this was the nineties in Scotland. The elders in the

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01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 6: church would have the elders in the church. Was everyone

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01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 6: just having babies out of wedlock in Scotland in the nineties.

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01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,959
Speaker 6: I mean it was the nineties in Scotland. Who wasn't

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01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 6: having babies?

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01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: So yeah? What.

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01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 6: In the mid nineties, Sarah announced she was expecting a

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01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 6: baby boy with butt face and the family went insane.

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Speaker 1: This was my first grandchild.

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Speaker 2: Did grandchild be mistaken as like grand niece.

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Speaker 4: Let's keep going and see if it makes sense of.

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Speaker 1: Me, Okay?

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Speaker 6: But then Tory also announced she was pregnant two weeks

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01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 6: later and announced it was a baby girl. This set

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01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 6: off Sarah because she developed a sick obsession with having

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01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 6: a girl. Before the end of the nineties, Sarah had

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Speaker 6: managed to have the first born and two boys. Tory

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01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 6: managed to have two girls, and Nick had my older brother,

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Speaker 6: so five grandkids in total. After the millennium, my dad

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01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 6: had announced that my mom was pregnant again and so

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01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 6: did Tory, which was unexpected. So just a few months apart,

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01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 6: I was born in May and my little cousin in September.

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01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 6: Now you'll never guess what Sarah did. She got pregnant again.

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Speaker 6: She's just like, I want to join in on the pregnancy.

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Speaker 4: Like everyone was getting pregnant with me. Everyone baby, make

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Speaker 4: a little baby.

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Speaker 6: She was told during the scans that she was having

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Speaker 6: a girl and she was ecstatic. However, the doctor was

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01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 6: beyond stupid and my youngest cousin ended up being a boy.

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01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 6: She was so depressed and turned on her sister and brother.

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01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 6: She berated her sister and brother for having children out

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Speaker 6: of wedlock and saying that they were going.

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Speaker 1: To the bad place and deserve to burn for.

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01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 6: Rubbing it in her face that they managed to have girls.

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Speaker 6: This actually caused no contact for a few months between

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01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 6: my dad and Sarah. However, this all changed once we

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01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 6: started to visit her quote, give me your daughter, She's

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Speaker 6: my golden child. Apparently that is a quote from Opie's aunt. Surprisingly,

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Speaker 6: I do remember this, despite being like four years old.

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01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 6: By this point, my parents were married, so the wedlock

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01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 6: issue stopped. But Sarah had become quite possessive over me

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01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 6: over the last year. When I saw I had to

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01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 6: stick by her side or stay within reach of her,

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01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 6: I was lucky my two older cousins told her to

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Speaker 6: go do one in young Kid's speech, so I could

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Speaker 6: go play Pokemon and watch Power Rangers with them. I'm

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Speaker 6: assuming that that slang for just like buzz off.

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Speaker 1: You got day one. That's not Scottish. To be clear,

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01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: I was just British. I was just British, Greater Britain. No,

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01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: it's which is the same as schooland I a little bad.

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Speaker 4: I feel really bad for Opie's I think cousins, because

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01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 4: Sarah's like, oh, I love you Opie, You're like the best,

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01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 4: and she's like, I don't care about my sons at all.

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Speaker 1: This is some unhinged behavior from the auntie here.

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Speaker 4: Most definitely all he says, I just kept having kids

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Speaker 4: until I had a girl. I think that's fine. It's

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01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 4: just the act of like being like, oh dang, I

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01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 4: hate this kid because it's not the gender.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like we read a story yesterday that was

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01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 6: like a parent where they were just like they didn't

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01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 6: expect to have twins, and they were just like, ah,

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01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 6: we'll give away the one that doesn't have the blue eyes.

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01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 2: It's like, what is wrong with you that one?

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01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 6: On one visit, nearly at my fifth birthday, I was

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01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 6: downstairs with my little cousin and we were playing when

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01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 6: my dad told me to get my shoes on so

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Speaker 6: we could get home for dinner.

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Speaker 1: I remember looking up and seeing Sarah death glare at

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Speaker 1: my dad.

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01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 6: Now, this is sixteen year old memories mixed in with

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01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 6: paraphrasing from my dad, but this is the exchange that

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01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 6: supposedly happened. Sarah says, go home. I told you I

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01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 6: wanted her to stay the night, Dad, Sarah, I told

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01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 6: you already. She's going to go see Tory and the

1429
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 6: girls tomorrow. And Sarah, she scoffs.

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01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 7: You're prioritizing your nieces again. I told you next, she's

1431
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 7: my golden child's she's mine. She's going to stay here

1432
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 7: tonight so we can have a girl's night's air.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, And he shut up about this. You

1434
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 6: never got a girl, Get over it. She's my daughter,

1435
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 6: so if you don't shut up, I'll make sure you

1436
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 6: never see her again. Fair to say, I was able

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01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 6: to go home with my dad, and I didn't really

1438
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 6: see my cousins for a few months. It was on

1439
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 6: and off visits until I was about seven, and then

1440
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 6: they moved up north for butt Face's job. Out of wedlock,

1441
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 6: bites Sarah on her behind. This has got to be

1442
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 6: a fan favorite tale of mine, mainly because I was

1443
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 6: there to witness it. Now, my eldest cousin, A was

1444
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 6: nineteen at this time, so I was thirteen. I had

1445
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 6: seen him the previous week for a visit and he

1446
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 6: told me that he's going to be announcing some really

1447
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 6: good news on a family group call. As soon as

1448
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 6: I joined the call, I was lambasted by Sarah for

1449
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 6: wearing a football top and told to change it. She

1450
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,719
Speaker 6: hated that I was not the once innocent little girl

1451
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 6: she knew, but a tomboy.

1452
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: However, that is for another day. Now.

1453
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 6: I sat with my dad and my brother whilst A

1454
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 6: joined the call with his girlfriend Pee. We're gonna have

1455
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 6: Alvin and Porsche. Porsche, Porsche and Alvin. Okay, we thought

1456
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 6: he was announcing an engagement. Nope, Allen and Porsche announced

1457
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 6: that they were pregnant and expecting a baby in November,

1458
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 6: and they're gonna name it a Lorsha.

1459
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 4: I see you. It's gonna be a baby girl, and

1460
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 4: Sarah's gonna be like it's mine.

1461
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: I see you. She's gonna sneak in and steal that baby.

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01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 4: She's gonna do it like Tangled style, and then she's

1463
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 4: going to lock the child on a tower and we

1464
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 4: steal youth.

1465
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 6: She's going to give a kookie magical palace, and she's

1466
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 6: going to use her kooky magical palace, and she's.

1467
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 4: Going to fall out of a tower and turned to dus.

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01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 6: I screamed in delight at the news. My dad was

1469
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 6: proud of Alvin, and my brother was so pleased. My

1470
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 6: granddad already knew Sarah and butt Face looked pale, about

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01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 6: to faint and started screaming at Alvin. Sarah demanded that

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01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 6: we leave the call, and we did. I was horrified

1473
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 6: at her reaction, but my dad told me not to worry.

1474
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 6: And this is how I was told the previous stories

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01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 6: I've mentioned above. Sarah was seriously so entitled because she

1476
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 6: wanted everything her way, and the fact her eldest son

1477
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 6: was having a child before the age of twenty with

1478
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 6: his girlfriend of nine months and refused to get married

1479
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 6: set her off. Alvin had to cut contact from Portia

1480
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 6: being three months pregnant until just before his daughter was

1481
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 6: I was like, did Alvin cut off his own It

1482
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 6: sounded like he cut off Porsche.

1483
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 2: But he didn't.

1484
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 1: He cut off the aunt.

1485
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 6: Yes, you'd never believe now that Sarah is a doting

1486
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 6: grandmother to the now six year old daughter of Alvin.

1487
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 6: After all she put her son through. I've actually yet

1488
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 6: to meet her in the flesh. I've only met her

1489
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 6: on video call. That's just life when you're two hundred

1490
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 6: miles apart bragging about your lifestyle at a wedding.

1491
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: So all these have been different stories.

1492
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 6: To be clear, all of these are little bullet points,

1493
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 6: little windows into the entitlement of OPI's auntie.

1494
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 4: It's all about her wanting children kind of.

1495
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1496
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 4: The through line or.

1497
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 6: The through line is she's like, you despicable beast sho

1498
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 6: having children out of Wednock.

1499
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 4: This is ridiculous.

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01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: Give your kids, slow key what she did? Yeah, right,

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01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: low key already what she did?

1502
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 4: Did she Oh, yeah, she did it at.

1503
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: The beginning, and then they got married.

1504
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 4: Oh but I think what she's really upset with is

1505
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 4: that they're not getting married because they don't have plans

1506
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 4: to get married. It's seems like and so she's like,

1507
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:02,480
Speaker 4: this is ridiculuss.

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01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 6: Just find yourself a man in the eighties who'll tell

1509
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 6: you you'll never have to work another day.

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01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,839
Speaker 1: Now, this is a more recent story.

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01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 6: My dad attended his cousin's wedding about four years ago,

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01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 6: and Sarah was actually invited. No idea who thought that

1513
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 6: was a good idea. To preface this story, I need

1514
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 6: to explain something. Do you remember how I said Sarah

1515
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 6: was promised to never work again once she married butt Face. Yeah,

1516
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 6: that backfired. So it turns out butt Face lost his

1517
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 6: high paying job and was forced into a crappy office

1518
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 6: job for a few years. Because Sarah couldn't live her lifestyle,

1519
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 6: she had to get a job for the first time

1520
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 6: in twenty six years and was brought back down to earth.

1521
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: It was a humbling experience for her.

1522
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 6: Now I wasn't at this wedding, but my dad informed

1523
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,799
Speaker 6: me that Sarah was showing how entitled she was again.

1524
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 6: She sat with a cousin of theirs my dad and

1525
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 6: my mom, and began to detail how they were going

1526
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 6: back home to go on a yaw no not their yacht,

1527
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 6: friends yacht, and not a yacht, but a decent sized boat.

1528
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 6: This lasted forty five minutes and the cousin had to

1529
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 6: walk away before telling her to f off and save

1530
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 6: this for.

1531
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,480
Speaker 1: A more appropriate occasion.

1532
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 6: And by the way, it's always an appropriate occasion for

1533
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 6: you to listen to full episodes with stories like this,

1534
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 6: and all you need to do to find them is

1535
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 6: go to the Spotify or Apple podcast or wherever you

1536
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 6: listen to things.

1537
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 1: Just search up.

1538
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 6: Okay, storytime, I don't really think this is like a

1539
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 6: story looking for advice, but I mean my advice would

1540
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 6: definitely be to this lady.

1541
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 1: Not let this lady around around your kids.

1542
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, moral of the story, don't let this lady are

1543
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 4: und your kids. She might be the brain of Britain,

1544
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 4: but not a good idea to bring her und your kids.

1545
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 6: To conclude, my dad hasn't actually seen Sarah in about

1546
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 6: three years. They never spoke for ten years because my

1547
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 6: dad realized how one sided their relationship was. He decided

1548
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 6: after she moved to not text her and see how

1549
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 6: long it would take for her to text him. When

1550
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 6: he did that, she hasn't ever texted him once. Dad

1551
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 6: only speaks to Alvin and doesn't bother with Sarah's other sons.

1552
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 6: My brother talks to all three of them. I only

1553
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 6: talk to Alvin as well as he's helping me with

1554
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 6: some UNI stuff. Sarah will never change. She never thanked

1555
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 6: us for her fiftieth birthday posts or the present in

1556
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 6: card that we sent up to her. She hates the

1557
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 6: fact that I'm the first granddaughter to go to university

1558
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 6: and pushed one of her sons to be a teacher too.

1559
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 6: Screw you, Sarah, you just prioritize your own lifestyle and

1560
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 6: instead of loving your nieces and nephew and that I

1561
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 6: love that.

1562
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 1: The end of that story.

1563
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 3: Whoa hey, it's John here. We're gonna get back to

1564
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 3: the stories. Put a quick three minute ad break from

1565
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 3: our sponsors that keep the show going.

1566
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,640
Speaker 4: My aunt keeps demanding to switch houses, but we stood firm.

1567
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: Girl to say monopoly.

1568
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 4: Just Traine, Hello Reddit, this is on mobiles, so I

1569
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 4: apologize for any grammar or spelling errors. So this is

1570
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 4: the first of probably many stories of my mother's entitled

1571
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 4: sister for the sake of her series, because there are

1572
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 4: many instances, I'll call her Jackie. By the way, this

1573
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 4: comes from Rock and Roller ninety three, and if you

1574
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 4: want to submit your stories, go to Okay Storytime on Reddit.

1575
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 4: This is going to be a lot of context before

1576
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 4: the main story, so please bear with me. Jackie is

1577
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 4: the middle sister, with my mom being the youngest of three.

1578
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 4: My oldest aunt on my mom's side will be Maria

1579
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 4: since she is a saint to put up with my

1580
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 4: entitled aunt Jackie, So Maria, Jackie and Mom. Maria was

1581
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 4: always the caring nurse eldest sister who took care of everyone.

1582
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 4: My mom was the youngest who loved cheerleading and being

1583
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 4: the boss lady of a corporation before giving it up

1584
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:39,600
Speaker 4: to be a stay at home mom for me and

1585
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 4: my sister. Jackie. On the other hand, she was the

1586
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 4: pretty smart and petty sister that always got all of

1587
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 4: the boys in high school, but afterwards spiraled. She never

1588
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 4: tried hard. She didn't graduate from college until she got

1589
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 4: a social work degree at a community college. I pity

1590
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 4: the poor kids that had her as their overseer with

1591
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 4: how she treate people in general. Her mental health took

1592
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 4: a nose dive as her looks apparently got worse after

1593
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,799
Speaker 4: high school. From her perspective, she got plenty of attention,

1594
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 4: but any positive relationship you ever had she destroyed. As

1595
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 4: a kid, I knew there was something up with her,

1596
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 4: since she always seemed negative or had something pitiful to say.

1597
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 4: You would snap at everyone and cry about how her

1598
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 4: life should have been better. She'd also tell me from

1599
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 4: seven to eleven to give her my Christmas money before

1600
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 4: my nana and Pop, my mom's parents, finally shut her down. Wait,

1601
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 4: She's like, hey, Gig, give me your money and he's like, what,

1602
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 4: but this is my Christmas money and she's like, I

1603
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 4: don't give it here.

1604
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 1: No, I bet you she's doing like that. Don't worry.

1605
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold on the way like.

1606
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put this into stocks and invest this for you,

1607
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 4: and then in a couple of years it's gonna be

1608
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 4: double the money and you might be wondering, oh, when

1609
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 4: am I get the money? Don't ask. She was living

1610
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 4: with my nana and pop from when she was twenty

1611
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 4: six into her fifties before they finally had enough. She's

1612
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 4: always been a moocher and plays the victim in every situation,

1613
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 4: even if the story she's telling was never hers to

1614
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,719
Speaker 4: begin with. Sorry for the long background of my aunt Jackie.

1615
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 4: While I don't have ill will towards her and understand

1616
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 4: her frustrations with her life, her decisions and attitude are

1617
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 4: what cement her leech like image in my brain. During

1618
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 4: the global crisis, I've been staying at home with my

1619
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 4: parents in our house. This four bedroom house has been

1620
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 4: with us since before I was born, almost thirty years

1621
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 4: in a neighborhood that grew around it. The neighborhood would

1622
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 4: years later become an impressively expensive area with McMansions and

1623
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 4: golf courses as far as the eye can see. My

1624
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 4: parents have finally, as of this summer, paid off the

1625
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 4: mortgage of this impressive and amazing house, and I love

1626
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 4: living here with them. I pay them rent and water

1627
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 4: bills as well as food. I have a great room,

1628
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 4: and I am not too far from my office in the

1629
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 4: store bus. I get to cook for my mom and

1630
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 4: dad for their opinions on my recipes win win, and.

1631
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 6: Then after I cook a fantastic diner out, i'd take

1632
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 6: a sojourn to the golf course play a quick session

1633
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 6: on the back nine.

1634
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 4: Aunt Jackie has her own two bedroom house and has

1635
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 4: for a couple of years now. Problem is she doesn't

1636
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 4: take care of it or herself. My mom has gone

1637
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 4: on more than one occasion to clean out the house

1638
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 4: for my aunt because she's physically disabled. Aunt Jackie only

1639
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 4: screams at Mom about what to do like she's her slave,

1640
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 4: but refuses to help or praise her. I wanted to

1641
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 4: go with my mom to act like a buffer, but

1642
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 4: she refuses, saying I'll just end up getting guilted and tricked.

1643
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 4: I've been pretty firm as of late, but I've been

1644
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 4: known to forgive things more readily than others would allow.

1645
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 4: So during the crisis, we haven't seen her, but have

1646
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 4: had phone conversations. Well. Last weekend, my Aunt Jackie called

1647
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 4: my mom to check in.

1648
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:37,759
Speaker 1: Jackie.

1649
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 4: I haven't talked to you in a while. How are you, Mom?

1650
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 1: Oh good, everything's been doing as well as ken be

1651
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 1: doing this time, Jackie.

1652
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 4: That's nice now that vaccines are rolling out. It's got

1653
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 4: to be nice to see everyone again. She always leaves

1654
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 4: a pause after she says something to try and get

1655
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 4: more information out of people or make her voice sound

1656
01:17:58,160 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 4: weaker and more pitiful.

1657
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 6: We usually keep to ourselves, so we've been good so

1658
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 6: far with distancing.

1659
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: What are you looking forward to once everything goes back

1660
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:07,759
Speaker 1: to normal.

1661
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 4: Well, I can't wait to come visit. My house has

1662
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 4: gone so cluttered lately. I'm thinking of getting a bigger

1663
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:15,839
Speaker 4: house for all my stuff.

1664
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 1: It's huge.

1665
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 6: Stay now it's me Mom's other personality, the Italian version

1666
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 6: of mom. Really, why don't you just get rid of

1667
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 6: some stuff you don't use instead?

1668
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 1: Selling houses are tough right now?

1669
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 4: Actually, I was hoping you would just let me have

1670
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 4: your house. I have so much more stuff, and your

1671
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,839
Speaker 4: house is so much nicer and cleaner than mine.

1672
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 6: Jackie, I already told you No, this is my house

1673
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 6: and my husband's house. Eventually it will be Opie in

1674
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 6: her sister's house. I have no intention of selling it.

1675
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 4: No, No, I don't want to buy your house. Just

1676
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 4: switch with me. You and your husband gonna have my

1677
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 4: house and hope you can live with me over there.

1678
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 1: Number one, what makes you think I'll let you have

1679
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: my house? And number two? Why would ope be staying

1680
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,799
Speaker 1: with you in my house?

1681
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,600
Speaker 4: Well, you've had her for a long enough, don't you

1682
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 4: think she makes all these amazing meals for you and

1683
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 4: helps around the house. I figure she can just keep

1684
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 4: it up but for me, But she'll have to pay

1685
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 4: for the internet, electricity, water, et cetera. I mean, she

1686
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,879
Speaker 4: has a job and I only have my little old pension.

1687
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 4: And with your husband still working, he can pay off

1688
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 4: the mortgage for my house.

1689
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 1: I am no longer on Jackie's side.

1690
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Jackie just like, just give me your house. Ope.

1691
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 4: His Mom's like no, and she's like, but that's unfair.

1692
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 4: But that's really what I want, really want your house.

1693
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 1: My house is full of crap.

1694
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 4: Crash.

1695
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 1: I trashed my house. Let me trash your house.

1696
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 4: Jackie continued with her delusional rant for a few minutes,

1697
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 4: with my mom looking at the receiver like a spewed

1698
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 4: fire at her. Finally, after a few minutes, Mom got

1699
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 4: angry enough to cut her off.

1700
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 6: You are not setting foot in my house, and you

1701
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 6: sure as heck are not going to use my daughter

1702
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 6: as a slave labor. You are out of your god

1703
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 6: dang mind. Good night, Jacqueline, and then she hung up.

1704
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 4: My mom then had to pop open a bottle of

1705
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 4: red wine and told my dad and I everything they said.

1706
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 4: My Mom was on the phone. Dad and I were

1707
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 4: evesdropping from the other room, praying Mom wouldn't let her come.

1708
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 4: My yeah, the uld be crazy and she was like, yes,

1709
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 4: Jackie is moving into the house and we are moving out.

1710
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 1: She's like, after a couple of glasses of red wine.

1711
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 4: I've decided to over the house.

1712
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 6: She's like, hey, you know what is the more the

1713
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 6: Mary's After Mom has a couple of glasses of red wine,

1714
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 6: that's when the Italian comes Theah.

1715
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 4: We were so relieved Mom put her foot down. It

1716
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 4: turns out Jackie called Maria to complain about what Mom

1717
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 4: said to her, spinning a sob story about how cruel

1718
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 4: a little sister she was but not giving up her

1719
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 4: house and how she was going to be alone until

1720
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 4: she could rent an RV to go live with Aunt Maria.

1721
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 4: Suffice to say, Aunt Maria shut that idea down and

1722
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 4: told her to stop trying to force herself on other

1723
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 4: people at almost sixty seven years of age. Sorry for

1724
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 4: the long story, everyone. There are other stories of my

1725
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 4: Aunt Jackie, but her madness only seems to get worse

1726
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 4: as the years go on. So I thought I'd share

1727
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 4: the most recent craziness with all of you before going

1728
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,799
Speaker 4: back to rehash the past, and there is an updates. Okay, guys,

1729
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 4: this has just gotten more crazy. Jackie called my mom

1730
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,719
Speaker 4: just a few minutes ago. It's not even eight am

1731
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 4: yet here sad about how last weekend went with their conversation.

1732
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 4: She was sorry about asking for the house. Instead, she's

1733
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 4: willing to settle for my room and I can take

1734
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 4: her house or reasoning, I'll be thinking about getting her

1735
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 4: own place anyway. I can just transfer the mortgage to her.

1736
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 4: It'll be sad not to have her stay, but she

1737
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 4: needs to leave the nest sometime, right.

1738
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 1: Low key though I kind of.

1739
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 4: Like that, I mean, but then the bear I live

1740
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:57,520
Speaker 4: with Jajackie.

1741
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 6: That's the bad part is that now Jackie lives at

1742
01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 6: the house. But like low key sweet deal for ope,

1743
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 6: being like she's to pay a mortgage, well, I mean,

1744
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 6: how much some of us got have already be paid off?

1745
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 1: Right, you don't have to pay the whole thing.

1746
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 4: Mom was simmering, hasn't even had her coffee yet, and said, no,

1747
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 4: she's welcome to stay here until she saves enough for

1748
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 4: her own place. It will be her decision, not yours.

1749
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 4: Mom put her on speaker and walked to my doorway

1750
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 4: as I'm working from home and.

1751
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 1: My room is right next to hers.

1752
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 4: Much she's all and half. She shouldn't be living with

1753
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 4: her parents at her age. She should just get a

1754
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 4: boyfriend and move out on her own. She looks right

1755
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 4: at me with my mouth hanging open.

1756
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 6: Mom, well, husband, and I love having her here. She

1757
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,679
Speaker 6: can get a boyfriend and move out whenever she feels comfortable,

1758
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 6: but that will not be dictated by you.

1759
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 1: Also, if she leaves.

1760
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 6: Who's going to pay the water bill and groceries and

1761
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 6: make my favorite pizza?

1762
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 1: You?

1763
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 4: No, why would I be cooking when i'd be the guest?

1764
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 6: Well, oh, people's await around the house is my tenant

1765
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 6: in the meantime and saving for her first house, so

1766
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 6: I don't see why we should be bringing you in.

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01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 4: After that, Mom starts walking back the kitchen and I

1768
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 4: get back to work. And I want you guys to

1769
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 4: work on listening to more full episodes with stories like this.

1770
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 4: Just go to Okay story Time, search that up on Spotify,

1771
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 4: Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app. And there was

1772
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 4: a little bit more to this story. But any any

1773
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:18,640
Speaker 4: final final thoughts.

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01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 6: You'll only get once house, Please say no and say

1775
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 6: no if you can get that house, though it'd be

1776
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 6: pretty sweet.

1777
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,759
Speaker 4: It seems like it's pretty like run down and also

1778
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 4: more you can flip that, you'll flip that, you can

1779
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 4: flip that one. But op. He finishes it off with

1780
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 4: I didn't hear the rest, but my mom is half asleep,

1781
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 4: just brushing her off. That is, until Jackie had the

1782
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 4: nerve to ask for us to renovate the garage to

1783
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 4: make her a room, since my living there probably saves

1784
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 4: them so much money they would be able to afford it.

1785
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 4: Mom just screamed, you have a house, now live in it.

1786
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 4: I burst out laughing, and I've been sitting here typing

1787
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,799
Speaker 4: this word for word. Thank God for long zoom meetings

1788
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 4: and not having to have our cameras on. And that,

1789
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 4: my friends, is the end of that story.