1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio A 2 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: little Ridiculous Historians. This is your heads up that we 3 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: are doing something a little bit different this week that 4 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: might not be for everyone. It's a wild ride. We 5 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: very much enjoyed it. We're hanging with our good good 6 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: friends Eli and Diana Banks at Ridiculous Romance. But no, 7 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: we're talking about something a little saucier than we would 8 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: talk about on Ridiculous History, aren't we. That's right. Today's 9 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: episode is about the history of sauce. No, a different 10 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: kind of sauce. Um No, yeah, sauciness, that's right, Ben. 11 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: Today's episode is part two of the History of Sex Toys, 12 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: about implements throughout history that have been designed to stimulate 13 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: and to arouse. So understandably, this is one that's maybe 14 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: not for the kiddos, you know, unless they're I mean, 15 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: they've sort of stripped sex said from the schools these days, 16 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: so maybe that's exactly what the kiddos need. Who are 17 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: we to say, we just wanted to give fair warning 18 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: as all. There's gonna be some uh, some raunchy talk, yes, 19 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: frank and candid talk, uh, enlightening, illuminating, and it's an 20 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: It's an interesting way to explore history. It's an interesting 21 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: way to explore society as well. I do want to 22 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: see our bodies and our bodies which are wonderlands. As 23 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier. If you, uh, if you enjoy family 24 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: experience where you're listening with more sensitive loved ones or 25 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: with kids, uh, we draw your attention to some earlier 26 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: episodes we did. I just want to take a second 27 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: knowl and brag. Can we brag? Can we brag on? 28 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: Max Williams? Super producer Max Williams surprised the heck out 29 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: of us just recently, right before we hit the road 30 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: when I once again through Max under the Lionel train 31 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: and acted like we had a big sounds cue on 32 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: the way. But hot gosh, man, he did it. Also, 33 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying, hot gosh, No, yeah, that that's not There's 34 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: not gonna be any of that hedging uh in the 35 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: actual episode, No, hot gosh, we go we go full 36 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: bore Ethan and Jeff m but no man. I UM, 37 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: I was in a bit of a slump that day. 38 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: I was having some family issues that I was dealing with. 39 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: And um our buddy uh and compatriot Matt Frederick Mr. 40 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: Matt Frederick. Mr. Matt Frederick texted me repeatedly asking me 41 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: to check out the QA for that day's episode or 42 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: there the episode that went live, and finally got around 43 00:02:55,280 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: to it and realized that Max had in fact recruited Matt, Matt, 44 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: Max and Matt to do a guest vocal on the 45 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: Max with the Facts sound cue, which is now forever 46 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: emblazoned uh in the cannon of ridiculous history. So thank 47 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: you both for that because it certainly cheered me right up. 48 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 1: That's wonderful, that's wonderful, and this is this is one 49 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: of the parts of this world right now. Yeah, yeah, 50 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: we said that sneaking in phone back and he's fallen 51 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: thellege just for you right now here we fact God, 52 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: so good, so good, And should we hear the other one? Yeah, 53 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: let's hear the ultra one. Why not phone back and 54 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: he drop in the hollege just for you. So good. 55 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: There we go, oh, oh, so good. It's a Mommy 56 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: for the ears. You can check that out in the 57 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: wild on a previous episode. Again, if you're listening with 58 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: kiddo's or maybe the Sex Toys episode is not for 59 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: everyone in your family, but we do urge you to 60 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: check out this episode and part one of the history 61 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: of Sex Toys. This is a ridiculous romance production. More importantly, 62 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: subscribe to their show because, uh, they've really got it together. Actually, 63 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: Nolan Nolan, I talked about that off air. They are 64 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: legit and we cannot wait for you to hear them, 65 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: not to mention the whole ridiculous universe that's coming together. 66 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: We've now got ridiculous crime which is now out there 67 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: on the scene, and I believe by the time this 68 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: episode comes out, we will have heard the announcement of 69 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: Ridiculous News with our buddies Bill and Mark at the 70 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 1: Helm of Ridiculous News, which will be a UM weekly 71 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: or twice a week UM topical and Evergreen simultaneously somehow, 72 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: because these guys are weird wizards show that tackles everything 73 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: ridiculous in the news, which we know there's plenty of yes, yeah, 74 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: and we are going to have them on an episode 75 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: very very soon. So in the meantime, if you've ever 76 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: asked yourself, let's see where chastity belts come from? This 77 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: this part two is especially for you, hey, accidental rhyme 78 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: or on purpose who knows here we go. Hey the French, 79 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: come listen. Well, Elia and Diana got some stories to tell. 80 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: There's no match making, all romantic tips. It's just about 81 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: pridiculous relationships. A love it might be any type of 82 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: person at all, and abstract cons that are a concrete wall. 83 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: But if there's a story where the second glance ridiculous 84 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: role that a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, everybody, 85 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. IM so glad to have 86 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: you as always. Yes, very exciting for part two today 87 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: of our crossover with Ridiculous History hosts Ben Bowling and 88 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: Noel Brown. Guys, welcome back, Thank you for being here. 89 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: It is we remain. We went through a lot. In 90 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: that lot, we learned a lot. I think. No, oh yeah, 91 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: there was a lot of school girlish tittering going on. 92 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: I was stimulated in both body and mind, and I 93 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: was horrified. So all the ridiculous romance boxes are checked. 94 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: Three tiers of any successful relationship, right, stimulating mind and uh, 95 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: you knows horrified, Yes, so we Um, thank you guys 96 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: so much for having us back on for our second date. Um, 97 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: this was a wild ride. I'm not going to look 98 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: at goats the same way for a while. Never Never, 99 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: you really hung up on that goat island with the 100 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: organic French tickler. Huh yeah, God yeah, it's painful. Um, 101 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: but we're going to move past all that today. Uh, 102 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna leave the goats behind. We're talking about sex dolls. 103 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: We're talking about chastity belts and all the mysteries surrounding 104 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: them and beneath them. So to start us off, let's 105 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: let's talk about sex dolls. Where where do they come from? 106 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: What's it all about? I guess making a little avatar 107 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: of your desires is probably pretty old school as long 108 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: as we've had imaginations, right, people are like, I'll just 109 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: pile some clothes together and see if I can making it. 110 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: But according to black Book mag dot com, they have 111 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: an article called sex Dolls a timeline which is very useful. Um, 112 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: there were sailors in the fifteenth century who would take 113 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: dolls that were, um, they were clothes stuffed with straw 114 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: or with rags basically, and they were very not that 115 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: humanoid looking. They're just kind of a vaguely human shape. 116 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: It's hard to stuff clothes into a realistic dummy. Asked 117 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: me how I know. Oh, I don't think we're going 118 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: to but this, well, so is it like those creepy 119 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: body pillows especially? Yeah? Sure, well, and then imagine some 120 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: of them are straw, which is like so itchy, and 121 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,559 Speaker 1: I don't know, it doesn't seems as comfortable as rags. 122 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: But they called them dom de voyage of the voyage, Yes, 123 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: and they were just to occupy them while they were, 124 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, in their long journeys at sea. They would 125 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: have and we did actually a whole episode about gay 126 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: pirates um and they often would would would sometimes use 127 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: each other, but I guess they would also sometimes take 128 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: on these these stuffed rag dolls. Do you think kind 129 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: of prison rules apply it? See, like what happens at 130 00:08:54,080 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: It's like, I'm not actually gay, I'm just marooned. So 131 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: what I think is interesting isn't. In the last episode, 132 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: we talked about how people said women couldn't survive without 133 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: an injection of seamen at some point or they would 134 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: go insane. And yet here are these men going on 135 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: a voyage who can't be gone for three months without 136 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: putting their dick in something. S Yeah exactly. Are you 137 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: guys familiar with the concept of a FIEFI I don't 138 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: know if this is just something that like my friend 139 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: made up or if this is like it definitely represents 140 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: an actual thing that you guys will be familiar with. 141 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: But this is a term that my friend Frank, friend 142 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: of the show, friend of the universe uses for an 143 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: improvised sexual device us Like, let's say a toilet paper 144 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: roll stuffed with tissue filled with petroleum jelly. You know, 145 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: it could be uh wintermel specific. I'm just just as 146 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: as an example as another another confirmed or deny this. 147 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: They could just be you know, two couch cushions. Um 148 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: there you know, there any anything that you can use 149 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: as a stand in for um, you know, the genuine article. 150 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. I didn't know if anyone 151 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: else has heard that term before. Yeah, if you go 152 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: to uh, I guess we have. This is the website. 153 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: If you go to all one word make pockets pussy 154 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: dot com, you'll see how to make a FIEFI f 155 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: I f I for everybody who also wants to ruin 156 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: their search history. UNA make a FEEFI that's sailed for us, 157 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: that sailed that is, it's probably got its own dom 158 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: the voyage now. But but so like this has to 159 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: have come a long way right at this point, I 160 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: know that now is surely now. It's like if somebody 161 00:10:55,520 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: is making a a scarecrow uh thing to have sex with, 162 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: it's because that's what they want, right, aren't there better 163 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: to be? There's so many options now, like all those 164 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: real dolls and stuff that people. Oh, you can't tell 165 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: the difference between these and real humans anymore. It's straight 166 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: up Jude Law Ai. It's I can get a Jude 167 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: law real doll. Let me look at you. Yourself might 168 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: be a sex dollar not know it. This is the 169 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: future we're moving towards. How have we not seen a 170 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: movie about a sentient sex doll? They gets broad, they 171 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: gets turned into because it comes from being a real 172 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: doll to being a real woman, like in Pinocchio situation. 173 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: You know, questions see that sort of like there's that 174 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: movie Mannequin from the eighties, sort of that thing a 175 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: little bit, But I don't know. I want to see 176 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: that story updated. Yeah, A two four will probably get 177 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: on it at some point. They make all those ai 178 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: true true. I love that stuff and all the modern 179 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: horror the right exactly. Um, but if you loved the 180 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: modern sex doll, like real dolls and other versions of that. 181 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: Unfortunately you have the Nazis to think for those man 182 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: um But in one the s S leader Heinrich Himler, 183 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: actually was very of the show. Enemy of the show. Apparently, 184 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: was very concerned with the Nazi soldiers in like the 185 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: front lines in Paris and stuff, going to visit too 186 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: many prostitutes and getting STDs. And he was basically like, 187 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: STDs are killing more of our soldiers than bullets are. 188 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: So he's like, we need to give them something instead 189 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: of going to visit these real women. We need to 190 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: give him something else. So he got a sculptor named 191 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: Arthur Rink involved in a project called the borg Killed 192 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: Field Hygiene Project, and it was considered more secret than 193 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: top secret, which considering their top secret things, pretty is 194 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 1: funny to me. There's the Holy Grail and then a 195 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: few not just below that, sex dolls. Sex. But that's 196 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: his contribution to history. Like Arthur Rink made the sex 197 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: doll his death bed. He's like, let my legacy live on, 198 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: stab my name on the foot of every sex doll. 199 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: So Black Book mag writes that quote. The sculptor on 200 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: the project, Arthur Rink created three types of dolls. He 201 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: had three different types. According to Rink, the s s 202 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: wanted the breasts round and full, of course, and ss 203 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: dr Olan Hennison insisted on a rose hip form that 204 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: would grip well. Okay, so he's like a consultant on this. 205 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: He like walked in, so he was like, listen, here's 206 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: all my wish list. You know, do what you do best, Arthur, 207 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: You're the sculptor, but I have some notes. Let's talk ergonomics. 208 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: I want a good gripping surface. Nothing's worse than losing 209 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: your grip. Right, these guys are already a war. Let's 210 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: make it simple. Um. And then for the face, they 211 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: were going back and forth on a face for this doll, 212 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: and they agreed that, you know, this is a sex doll, 213 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: so she needs to look a little naughty and like 214 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: sort of slutty. They wanted a slutty face whatever that means, 215 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: and the more of a come hither look let's call it. Yeah, 216 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: it was like a you know, not a not a 217 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: not ah an innocent looking gal. I guess. But they 218 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: actually asked an actress at the time, whose name was 219 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: kath von Nag to be the face of this doll, 220 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: and obviously she said no, thank too. I was like, 221 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: I would hate to be like, yes, put my face 222 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: on all these sex dolls to be unbelievable. So they said, okay, well, 223 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: we need to create an artificial face of lust that 224 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: would be more appealing. Technician Franz Schockert a greed, saying, quote, 225 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: the doll has only one purpose, and she should never 226 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: become a substitute for the honorable mother at home. When 227 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,239 Speaker 1: the soldier makes love to board kills, she has anything 228 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: to do with love. Yeah, board killed, I'm sorry, makes 229 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: love makes love, sir, Look board kill deserves some respect. 230 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: He says, this has nothing to do with love. Therefore, 231 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: the face of our anthropomorphic sex machine should be exactly 232 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: how Wigner described the common wanton's face. Also starting an 233 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: industrial band called Anthropomorphic sex Machine, and you would do well, 234 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: I think, and I would like to see the cover 235 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: art most as possible, be one of those steam powered dildos. 236 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: I think they open right, you can do like a 237 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: variety pack of you. It was steam Powered Dildo is one, 238 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: and then the shi sex Machine. Maybe that's the name 239 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: of the album. The band is steam Power Dildo, the 240 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: album sex Machine. I think we can discover some stuff here, right, 241 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: I think I'm, you know, obviously astounded by episode one, 242 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: and now we're diving right into Nazi real dolls, which 243 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: is then they have names. Bordld that's a very sexy 244 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: name I might have, but I mean, you know, maybe 245 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: he's let me lost. So you don't like Frauleine BORKI 246 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: make you think of the borg. I don't know, you know, 247 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: like I want to be. I want to be assimilated 248 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: when I lay with this, when you make love now 249 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: you're speaking my language, assimilate me. One does not make 250 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: love to a sex machine. So there, it's weird because 251 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: I would imagine that the face, whatever the face ends 252 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: up being, it's going to be frozen and whatever static 253 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: expression they give it right, so it's like surprised or 254 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: it's like whole saucy I'm into this, I guess, abject horror. Yeah, 255 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: maybe that's the problem is that some people that's what 256 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: the face they would like to see the most, I suppose, 257 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, they actually Time Magazine said that because they 258 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: couldn't decide, you know, they didn't want it to look 259 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: like someone's wife or mother. I guess they couldn't really 260 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: nail down a slutty face for this doll. So and 261 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,719 Speaker 1: they tried, Okay, they took surveys, um so they kind 262 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: of left the dolls face pretty blank, and they thought 263 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: that the soldiers would more were more likely to use 264 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: them if they could sort of impart their own fantasy 265 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: onto the doll. And it didn't look like anything too specific. 266 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: But of course they're Aryan. They're very much about Aaryan value, 267 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, uh, aesthetics or whatever. So of course they 268 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: gave the creation still had blue eyes and blonde hair. 269 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: So other than that, I guess you could give her 270 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: full lips or thin lips, or a big nose or 271 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: a small nose. However your imagination runs wild. You can 272 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: customize these um just in your head, testing you in 273 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: your mind. And so it says after extensive testing, which 274 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: I have to ask, I would love to pull into 275 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: speculation station and find out what the testing entailed. Sensual 276 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: works both in the dark and in the light. Well, 277 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: let's let's let's double check that that's science. I mean, like, 278 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: you know, there's well, there's obviously to be the boring answers. 279 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: They probably have to look at material science and stress 280 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: on these so called comfort that checks out his science, 281 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: but also also the thing that gets me, and this 282 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: is just a hygiene thing. Um, are they one per soldiers? 283 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: The distribution a single use thing or is it washable? 284 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: If I was, if I was designing it, I would 285 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: make an ejectable cartridge. You could take it out and 286 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: put a new one in dishwasher safe. Where were you 287 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: when the Nazis were trying to put together these threal dolls. 288 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: I've been asked that question many times. Yah, think Nolan 289 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: and I we're gonna ask that earlier. But yeah, so, yeah, 290 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: So they did a bunch of testing on I'm surely 291 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: material stresses. And also I guess how effective they were 292 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: arousing you maybe that's my guess, my gross guests. And 293 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: so they are like, these are ready to go, And 294 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: Himmler ordered fifty dolls for his own troops, but by 295 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: two they pulled the plug on this project because the 296 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: soldiers were way too embarrassed to carry these dolls around 297 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: and they were really worried that if they got captured 298 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: by the enemy that like American in British and French 299 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: soldiers will make fun of them, which is so funny 300 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: that you're like, I'm a pow and my number one 301 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: concern is they're going to make fun of me. I'm 302 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: a proud Nazi soldier. I don't want to be teased. Wow, 303 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 1: I mean I get it though, right, Like also especially 304 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: get that given the propaganda war going on at that time, 305 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: it would be a real gift to the Allies to 306 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: be able to say, these guys are running into battle 307 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: on the fighting for the forces of evil with Also, 308 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: by the way, they're sex dolls right right by the way, 309 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: these depraved tons are fucking these random sex dolls. Yeah, 310 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: that's probably true too. They were like, it'll make us 311 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: look really weird and weak and bad. Um, we don't 312 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: want we don't want to look bad. Letter by furiously, 313 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: we'll make it work, I promised soldiers. Way. Yeah, I've 314 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: always kind of been a little perplexed that like the 315 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: need for us sex doll like kind of to teach 316 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: their own But it's just so specific. It's like we've 317 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: figured out, you know, analogs without having to you know, 318 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: go all out and get this weird, uncanny valley. I 319 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: just don't quite understand the appeal, especially nowadays, when they're like, 320 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: you know, thousands and thousands of dollars. There's that movie 321 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: large in the real Girl. Have you guys seen that with? 322 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, sex sexy, mean boy. What's his name, Ryan Goslip? Yea, yeah, 323 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 1: he genuinely, you know, forms an attachment like an effect 324 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: to this, uh, this thing and that because it's it's 325 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: it's a very sweet film actually, but I think it 326 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: probably for some people there is a lack of touch, 327 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: lack of one on one, you know, skin on skin contact, 328 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: and maybe these things fill a role for which I 329 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: can totally understand. But in general, you know, for like 330 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: the Army, it seems like they're easier, you know, ways 331 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: to get this done and having to puzzle over what 332 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: the face is going to look like and all that stuff. 333 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: For the record, it's all about it if it's preventing 334 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: sexual violence. But do you guys, do you guys remember 335 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: the awesome show thirty Rock where James Crago appears as 336 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: spoiler alert, a guy who is pretending to have as 337 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: celebrity relationship because he's secretly in love with a body pillow. 338 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: It's like some of the best dialogue they have. But 339 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: while it seems like on balance it could be a 340 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: it's it's not for me idea, but it could be 341 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: a good idea. Um, if it's preventing violence, the thing 342 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: that gets me is just a really cheap point. Like 343 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: I live in a in a smaller, smaller abode. I 344 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: like multifunctional appliances, you know what I mean. I don't 345 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: like to get one thing that does one thing. So like, yeah, 346 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: sure you could do stuff that do brush not sex it. Yeah, 347 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: but I'm thinking like if it made coffee, or if 348 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: it had like storage or something, that would be a 349 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: different conversation. But I guess they didn't get to that 350 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: point in testing, did they. I guess not. I would 351 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: like mine to not. You know, I don't want to 352 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: sex doll that's also like makes dinner and think you 353 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: know all these traditional things. I want a sex doll 354 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: that has a six figure income. Um, you know, it 355 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: goes off to work every day. I clean up around 356 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: the house, good credit, a nice car, a few credit cards. 357 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: I'll stay home, I'll clean, I'll cook time stories like 358 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: or something randomly. You know, now we're talking NOL. What 359 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: did you do with your Teddy ruxpan doll? That's my question. Leave, 360 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: that's the imagination listening public. No, I never actually had 361 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: a Teddy expenda. It's probably why I am the way 362 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: I am. Um, I was deprived. I was I believe 363 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: we had a thrift store one that didn't the cassette 364 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: didn't work. Oh yeah, I was all imagination. I believe 365 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: it was my dad years back, uh, under cover of night, 366 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: stuck in like a very very funked up cassette tape 367 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: that was like some sort of heavy metal and didn't 368 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 1: tell or my mom until she like set it up 369 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you know, it wasn't this song, 370 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: but it was like tosome home like it with those 371 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: empty eyes and just sort of man, no, I think 372 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: it is what I'm saying. Yeah, well, we're in confession corner? 373 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: Is that a? Is that a corner you guys have? 374 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: Is there? We don't have confession corn yet, but maybe 375 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: we should. I didn't lose my virginity for intensive purposes 376 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: to one of those plush i Kea snakes, you know, 377 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: um back in the in the in the these they 378 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: were a lot more rudimentary and they were a little 379 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: more like they weren't as quite as fluffy as they 380 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: are now. But I had one on my Ikea bunk 381 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: bed um and I just sort it was just there's something, 382 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, and there's all this what's happened? I'm so 383 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: much about my body? Oh wow, I do not remember mine. 384 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: M hmm, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, snake. It haunts 385 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,719 Speaker 1: my dreams, you know, I do remember those little um, 386 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: those creepy little water snakes. You know, they were just 387 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: like a rubbery sleeve with inside outside themselves. That would 388 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: be a perfect fife. Yes, yeah, that may have been 389 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: the original design. And they just thought, we have to 390 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: we have to spin our marketing because we're creeping people out, 391 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, like the way that people sell massage tools. Uh. Yeah, 392 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: they made little water snakes and said, you know what, 393 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: sell this to kids. Put in the Discovery Channel store. Yeah, 394 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: we need the children, so uh se dolls. Yeah, so 395 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: we can thank the Nazis, and I guess you can 396 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: also thank you know, let's not thank them, we can 397 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: also thank I guess the American and British forces who 398 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: destroyed the factories where they made these dolls during their 399 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: bomb raids of Dresden. So we don't have any I 400 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: guess we don't have an existing like legitt to the 401 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: front Line doll, but there was a similar I don't 402 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: think it was an actual sex doll, but it was 403 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: based on the design uh doll that was sold in 404 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: toy stores, and this woman, Ruth Handler, saw one and 405 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: thought it was a beautiful, like blonde, lovely woman and 406 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: decided to make a doll out of it in America. 407 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: And so that is the inspiration for the very first 408 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: Barbie doll. So actually Barbie doll. Barbie dolls were inspired 409 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: by Nazi sex dolls. Wow at all speaking of things 410 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: that were for adults, but then we're then marketed to 411 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, okay, so yeah, that's why Barbie is 412 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: blonde with big boobs. She was originally meant to comfort 413 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: comfort soldiers fighting for Aryan values. God's sort of a 414 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: euphemism or like a kind of polite euphemism for a 415 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: a sex worker was a comfort woman? Yeah yeah in 416 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: the Pacific theater, Yeah, I guess they were comforted. I 417 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: don't know if the women were very kind would think 418 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: were comforted by it, But I guess they provided. So 419 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: I'm comfort Wow, I can. I'm hung up on Fifi 420 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: only because to me, Fifi a just from a childhood 421 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: of cartoons. Fifi is like a blue pool poodle. Yeah right, Well, 422 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: now you know guys, not anymore. Never got poodles the 423 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: same way again, you're in that and that fifi would 424 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: be kind of that French spelling the f I f 425 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: I would be right, do you know it just spefi 426 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: stand like, is it the first part of something that 427 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: it is fully immersive flagrant? Fully immersive flagrant? No way, 428 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: it's fully improvised. Yeah, somebody helped me out with an eye. 429 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: Would I would make that second half a different f 430 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: word improvised? You got to text their friend Frank after this. Yes, 431 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm so glad we clear that up. Thank you so much. Well, 432 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm just glad to know that it's not just a 433 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: made up thing. I mean, it is all over the internet. 434 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: It clearly as kind of a term. It would be 435 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: weird if it would be weird if it was something 436 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: or pal frank just made up and tried to like 437 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: normalize us and slipped in the conversation. You know that 438 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: sometimes he does it with such authority that I believe 439 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: I believe Frankie's like this is like a big word 440 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: that people say. I'd be like, oh, okay, I guess 441 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: I better learn it real quickly to that shock. This 442 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: is a great spot for a break, we will be 443 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: right back, and we're back. But so, okay, I I 444 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: didn't know that, But I also didn't know a really 445 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: weird thing that you guys found about ancient Rome, like 446 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: the story of love never did run easy or true 447 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: for a lot of people. And you know, this is 448 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 1: a situation that happens in ancient relationships as well as 449 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: current ones. Sometimes people straight, sometimes they go go off 450 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: the rails, and for one, you're another find a different 451 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: lover outside of a committed relationship. Tail as old as time, 452 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: as old as time, and yeah, apparently in ancient Athens 453 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: and ancient Rome, both men and women who cheated on 454 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: their spouses could legally be killed if they were caught 455 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: like doing it, caught red handed or whatever hand, wherever 456 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: your hand is. But there was also another quote non 457 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:40,479 Speaker 1: lethal humiliating punishment reserved for male cheaters, where the husband 458 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: who had been cuckolded could legally sodomize the adulterer with 459 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: an audience if they want so. Sometimes that meant that 460 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 1: they would be he would himself penetrate the other gentleman um. 461 00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: But this ancient Rome and ancient Greece, I think that's 462 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: what happened. Remember in the last episode, I talked about 463 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,959 Speaker 1: the scene in Caligula where he does that to another man. 464 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: I believe it's that out of punishment for him having 465 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: done something along these lines, because it's very public and 466 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: like shaming. Kind of an eye for an eye, blink 467 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: for a blink, right. Well, And we did talk a 468 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: little bit point for a point. We did talk a 469 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: little bit in the first one about how it was 470 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: okay to have sex with men in ancient room, but 471 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: only if you're the top. So it was very humiliated 472 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: have anything put into your butt I guess, although you 473 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: could put whatever you wanted into a but no problem um. 474 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: And apparently, yeah, sometimes they would do it themselves, I guess, 475 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: but more often than not, the punishment took a symbolic 476 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: form where they would insert a radish into your butt hole. 477 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: Spy and the historian Vicky Leon says, quote, I call 478 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: it an ancient sting operation, since Greek radishes grew to 479 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: a healthy size and had a good bite to them, 480 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: So I guess it really stung in more ways than one. Yeah, 481 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: I gotta wonder if someone ever ever knew the risk 482 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: and said, like, I'll take the radish for it, you 483 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: know what. I mean like, yeah, this is worth it, 484 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: quick question. So if it was so, um, I guess 485 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: shaming or just like taboo to be on the receiving 486 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: end of this thing, does that mean that there were 487 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: like special boys that were designed for this purpose or 488 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: bread for this purpose. Essentially, you're gonna be my new 489 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: Radish boy. Get over here. Um. But Vicky Leon also 490 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: said that they, I guess probably to avoid this punishment. 491 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: There were some men who, you know, they were like, 492 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm so randy, I just always ready to go. I 493 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: need some anti afro das acts to sort of help me. 494 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: I don't know herb my appetite, yeah, my enthusiasm. And 495 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: so men would eat lettuce, which was a salad leaf 496 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: thought to be a powerful antipotency drug at the time. 497 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let us always turns me off. Do you 498 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: eat it and you're just like well, like in our 499 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: our very first episode of this show, we talked about 500 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: Celery and how sexy Celery was supposed to be as 501 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: an aphrodisiac. Yeah. Back with them in France, Um, what's 502 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: her name, Madame de pompadour, uh, and all them they 503 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: thought Celary was was quite the aphrodisiac. Again, I don't 504 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: know why, but whatever works for you. Let us as 505 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: the inverse. I guess, yeah, when leafy one watery leafy 506 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: green to another, I guess, doesn't celery Like doesn't it 507 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: calorically expand more energety to eat than it provides? Anyway? 508 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: You know, I have a theory about aphrodisiacs based on 509 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: a asked conversation. I think it's all like independent marketing 510 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: from people who are dealing with their own situations, you know, 511 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: like it was was me, baby, it was the oysters, 512 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: you know how I get, or or maybe someone's like, 513 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: you know, I do think you're very attractive, very much 514 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: in love with you, but I just had a salad. 515 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's not you, it's not you. Is this 516 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: where tossing the salad comes from? Do you think I 517 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: always wondered about that? Yeah? I don't know what another day. 518 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: Perhaps me and my silly etymology questions always thet They're 519 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 1: always filthy, They're always filthy. Those are the fun etymologies 520 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: to track down. To be fair, Speaking of filthy, another 521 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: anti potency drug was cream made of mouse droppings. They 522 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: would spread I guess onto their anatoles, which I'm like, 523 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: just that never put ship on your dick. No, I 524 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: just feel like that's always a bad idea. And also, honestly, 525 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: all you have to say is cream made from mouse droppings, 526 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 1: and I'm good. You don't need to rub it anywhere. 527 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: You've said it. The images in my head, I'm not 528 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 1: gonna have sex for a month, Well that's that's also 529 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: like I think that's a hard anti aphrodisiac or that's 530 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: a very um that's like a self fulfilling prophecy, right, 531 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: because then it doesn't matter what kind of activity you 532 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: want to get up to. Anybody who is like, what's 533 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: a little mouse mouse poop between you know, between friends, Uh, 534 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: they're not going to be the kind of person you 535 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: want to sleep with. I'm just I hope that's not 536 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: a blanket statement. I hope nobody feels judged. But if 537 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: you're trying, if you're trying to like have a romantic 538 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: partner and you keep striking out, it might be the 539 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: mouse droppings. I'm just saying. Just yeah, Ben is trying 540 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: to say, try something new and just it's the scientific method. 541 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: See if you get the same results. Okay, so much 542 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: like the bread sticks in the episode one, I'm wondering 543 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: about the radishes. Speaking of salads, is you know, oh 544 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 1: this salad is delicious. It's really turning me off. What's 545 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: in there? Well, fresh radishes right from the garden, rushed 546 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: out of some gardens, straight from the so not toss 547 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: the salad radishes as a form of punishment, slash abuse 548 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: anti afro das acts. I think that brings brings us 549 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: to one of the one of the things that I 550 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: was wondering about as well, which is chastity belts. Right. 551 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: That's that's an anti afrods act for sure. Right, even 552 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: if you want to, you can't do. Everybody loves chastity belts, right, 553 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: I mean I always think of Robin hood men in 554 00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: tights of course any aspect and the ever last is hilarious. Um, 555 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: big iron underwear with a padlock on it. Right, we 556 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: all remember these, this impenetrable guard against scoundrels and ne'er 557 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: do wells, uh, stopping sex in its tracks. The first 558 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: evidence of chastity belts goes all the way back to 559 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: the eleven hundreds. Um, now, Ben and all, we we 560 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: do a segment on this show sometimes when we we 561 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 1: have our main subject that we're talking about, but maybe 562 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna sneak off with something else for just a 563 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: quick second. Uh, we're gonna take a little quick fling 564 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: with history. Lock him up and throw away the key. 565 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: So the Crusades, Uh, we've all heard of the Crusades, right, 566 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: That's where we're going to with this one, about a 567 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: three century period in Europe where Christians went out marching 568 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: across the lands to bring the good word of peace 569 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: and love about Christ. By um checking my notes here, Uh, 570 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: lots of stabbing. Basically stars and spears. Crusades, very Jesus like, Yeah, 571 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: obviously more complicated than that. We're not going to get 572 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: the whole history the Crusades here. But the thing that 573 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,919 Speaker 1: step rid of the Crusades from other Christian religious wars 574 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: was that the prize for participating in one was free absolution. 575 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: Like you were absolved of your sins if you went 576 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: and fought in the Crusades. So there's all these dudes like, 577 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: what this is my chance I've been waiting around for 578 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: to someone absolve me of all my sins. Some some guy, 579 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: probably like Gregor the Smith, is like, I've got believe 580 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: I have sinned these rules for getting into heaven, But 581 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: dema broke every single one of them. And uh so 582 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: somebody says to him, Hey, you know what, come on down, Gregor, 583 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: sign up for the Crusades. You'll be free to go 584 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: get into heaven. All you gotta do is kill a 585 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: bunch of people for us. And everything's all set. But 586 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: but this guy, Gregor the Smith, he's worried while my 587 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: wife is back home. And of course, as we've all learned, 588 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: wandering uterus women can't go but a few months without sex. 589 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: So if he's off for years in the Crusades, how's 590 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: he going to stop this from happening. So he goes 591 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 1: off to the blacksmith and or maybe he's the blacksmith. 592 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: I think we called him Gregor the Smith, all right, 593 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: And he starts forging and he makes this metal underwear 594 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: and he puts a big old padlock on it, straps 595 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: it around his wife and says, good luck getting railed now. 596 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: And he made a bunch of them passed him out 597 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 1: to all the other villagers the key, and uh it 598 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: was like the hottest item of the day. Everyone had one, right, Wow, 599 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: So ladies walking around with iron underwear just all through 600 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: all the Crusades, so that they wouldn't be cheating on 601 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: their husbands. The thing is, none of that happened. This 602 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: was all a story that was made up in the Renaissance. 603 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: So there was a Rancor article by Genevieve Carlton where 604 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: I got some info on this. She said quote one 605 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: of the favorite pastimes of folks in the Renaissance was 606 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 1: laughing about the ignorance of the medieval period, right. They 607 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: wanted to feel superior. They're like, we're so educated, we 608 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: have a art, but our ancestors, well, they were so 609 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: dumb and mindless, and they came up with dumb stuff 610 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: like this chastity belt, and they invented these stories to 611 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: make their predecessors sound stupid basically, So it's just like 612 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: this dick ish, belittling move through time because they wanted 613 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: to say that these barbaric medieval people were, uh, you know, 614 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: just insecure and incapable of pleasing their wives, and that 615 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 1: their wives just constantly cheat on them. So they came 616 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: up with this idea for the chastity belt. That's so funny. 617 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: You think they'd be like, let's dunk on him by 618 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: being like, hey, you killed a lot of people. I'll 619 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: say the idea goes back earlier than that because in 620 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: the Roman times, uh there's Roman women would wear a 621 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 1: knotted belt that they would wear right up into their 622 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: wedding day and then the husband would ceremoniously un not 623 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: the belt. And so later on that belt kind of 624 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: endured and they even started sort of gilding it in metal. 625 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: So they think maybe they found these metal knotted belts 626 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: that survived history and said that's sort of where they 627 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: developed the concept for the chat that he built and 628 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: the Renaissance. So that that checks out. That sounds like 629 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: the historic game of telephone, you know, cover right with 630 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: prejudice against the past and what have you. But also 631 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: didn't this ultimately, I don't know how far ahead this is, 632 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 1: but didn't this ultimately like become a thing that people 633 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: wanted to do or some version of it, Like it's 634 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: isn't it like a fetish? At some point? To some 635 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 1: degree in the modern era, we've gotten more into that 636 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: where this sort of like forced chastity, uh, you know, 637 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: keeping someone under lock and key. From from my research, 638 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: it's seemed that that's more skewed towards penis having individuals 639 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: that there's a cage lock and for your lock up 640 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: your dick. So I guess so that you can't get 641 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: an erection or be stimulated at all, and your partner 642 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: walks away with the key and says not until I 643 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: say so. Um, well, kind of a power dynamic. Yeah, absolutely, 644 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 1: when you like hurt yourself with natural uh cycles of 645 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 1: two messence, you can break a dick. Absolutely. It has 646 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,919 Speaker 1: been one of my biggest questions about these, and I've 647 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: certainly never tried one. I don't know if anybody in 648 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,800 Speaker 1: the list un of our listeners can right in and 649 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: let us know what that's like. If we get an 650 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: answering machine on that, I will be thrilled. Yes, what happens? 651 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: Can you bust out of these cages? Can you hulk out? 652 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: If they're not strong enough? It does look like they 653 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: have a hole to piece for for function, And I'll 654 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: say some of the old designs of chastis belts from 655 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: the Renaissance. There's this guy, Conrad Kaiser who wrote a 656 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: book in fourteen o five called The Bellafortis, which is 657 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: this military technology illustrated classic. He just drew all these 658 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,720 Speaker 1: crazy industrial military machines and he said, any other country 659 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: that sees this book is going to get scared and 660 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,760 Speaker 1: run away. But he also included the first known drawing 661 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: of a chastity belt, and it's got some gaps in 662 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: the front and back so that you know, I guess 663 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: you can do your business still, um, but not enough 664 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:22,399 Speaker 1: to actually get penetrated. So the thing is his book 665 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: was also full of jokes. They're pretty sure that he 666 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: was making this as yet another joke in the Renaissance 667 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: about what medieval people were doing. He's got fart jokes 668 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 1: in there, like the Onion of its time. Yeah magazine 669 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: or something, okay, magazine, Yeah, that's funny, Okay. And there's 670 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: there's Renaissance artwork again, all featuring chastity belts. It's always 671 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 1: the same thing. It's some man locking up his wife. 672 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: She's always topless, she's always tits out, you know, because 673 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: she's insatiable, Like, yeah, we lock up your vagina, but 674 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: your tits are free to row. These paintings always have 675 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 1: like a guy sneaking around in the background, because they're 676 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: trying to show the futility of them. Usually the guy 677 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 1: in the background has is sneakily holding a key up 678 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 1: in the shadows like I've already get made a copy 679 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: foolish husband he never knew and made just the key 680 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: of So it's just, you know, just again, this is 681 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 1: perpetual joke out of the Renaissance, and it it just 682 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 1: endured through the years to the point where we believed 683 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,720 Speaker 1: it to be history for a long time. In fact, 684 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: the British Museum in the in the nineteen nineties was 685 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 1: taking down exhibits of chastity belt that they had just 686 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: assumed to be historically accurate, and when they dated the metal, 687 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: they discovered that these things were from like the late 688 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds, but then they said had belonged to Catherine 689 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 1: de Medici, the Queen of France of you know, back 690 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: in the sixteenth century. They thought this was her chastity belt, 691 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 1: and then they dated it. Oh, never mind, this is 692 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: from the nineteenth century. It was probably just a joke. 693 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 1: So it's like it's like the Iron Maiden, which the 694 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: torture device that turns out to have been mostly fictitious 695 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: or doesn't make exactly. There was tons of like uh, 696 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: torture museums and exotic you know, uh oddities being sold 697 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: back then, and people literally just bought up some metal 698 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: built chastity belts and said come see this barbaric invention 699 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 1: that our medieval people came up with, ye totally false. 700 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: In fact, I will say that in the eighteenth century Mr. 701 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: Voltaire wrote a poem kind of mocking the whole idea 702 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 1: of chastity belts. We got another poem very excited. His 703 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: whole point in this poem was that it was foolish 704 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: to force fidelity by locking a woman up, and that 705 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,359 Speaker 1: the whole poem is pretty long. But what pulled out 706 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: a couple of selections here and I say we go 707 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: on down the poetry corner, and here a selection from 708 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 1: Voltaire's poem The Padlock. Each cuckled soul who during life 709 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: did all he could to plague his wife. Then thus 710 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: declared a Florentine, most mighty monarch idopine for death. For 711 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 1: once a wife is dead, she can't defile the marriage bed. 712 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 1: But ast an immortal wife can never be deprived of 713 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: life a padlock. Therefore, I'd invent which should such accidents prevent? 714 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: She must be virtuous, of course, when under the restraint 715 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 1: of force, not to be come at by her elf. 716 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 1: You're sure to have her to yourself, which I had 717 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: thought before I died. Such a convenience to provide this 718 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: sage advice allowed applause from all the damned assembly draws 719 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do in my bain voice, and even Pluto's 720 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: self some pity felt when spouses for you, he made 721 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: fast and said you will now perforce to chaste this lock, 722 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:11,319 Speaker 1: which hell caught frame alone soon to The human race 723 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 1: was known in Venice, Rome and all about it. No 724 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 1: gentleman or sits without it. Tis always though a method. 725 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: Sure all female honor too secure their husbands. Though some 726 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 1: sneerers mack keep virtue safe and underlock, but all his 727 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: jealous care is in vain. Love always knows his ends 728 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,240 Speaker 1: to gain that God will share a spouse or cause 729 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 1: he still protects who keeps his laws. For you have 730 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: given me your hearts and can't refuse me any parts. 731 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: Soccer vibes, get out, get creepy inside the house bad 732 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: times that He's like, it's clearly an accident. We want 733 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 1: to prevent these accidents where you trip and your dick 734 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 1: falls into my wife who left, who's cleaning around? But 735 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 1: against satire, Yes, exactly, yes, Voltaire totally mocking the whole 736 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 1: notion um has seemed to be all anyone was ever 737 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 1: really doing was kind of teasing about it. I'm imagining 738 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 1: like a thousand years from now, someone unearthing something from 739 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 1: Spencer's gifts. I guess they really used this. So like, 740 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: do you guys remember the pin thing? There was a 741 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: big on your face, in your hands and a shape. 742 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: Someone's going to find that and be like, you know 743 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: what I think people were doing. I think they were 744 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: banging this thing, just like, let's write a poem about it. 745 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: I need to sell some books. Let's write a poem 746 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,359 Speaker 1: about it. Man in the first century loved to take 747 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: a box of three thousand nails. Let his dick in. 748 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,839 Speaker 1: Just go to Jim Rose circus side show kind of ship. 749 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: This is a great spot for a break. We'll be 750 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 1: right back, all right, welcome back to the show. But okay, 751 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 1: but Eli, we know that there are physical like artifacts 752 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 1: like somewhere along the line. Despite the story being untrue, 753 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 1: several people thought satire. No, they were like, I'm going 754 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 1: to make one though, right yeah, And typically again these 755 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,320 Speaker 1: were made mostly four show um, whether it being sold 756 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 1: off in a museum or send out one of these 757 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: oddity tours. The idea was that they were always made 758 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:56,760 Speaker 1: as fakes from history. In fact, historian curator Leslie Smith 759 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: said quote, I have traveled abroad and looked at art 760 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 1: collect and as yet haven't seen a chastity belt that 761 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 1: can be proved to be in medieval origin. So, as 762 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 1: far as anyone can tell, all these manufactured chastity belts 763 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: were made as basically a historical prank. Don't buy those 764 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 1: vintage chastis belts on Amazon. They're not worth it. Uh Yeah. 765 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 1: British Museum the Cleaning Museum in France both have had 766 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 1: to take down exhibits of chastity belts that they had 767 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,280 Speaker 1: previously said were historical objects and then found out Nope, 768 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: these were totally bogus. That's embarrassing and I love that that, 769 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 1: Like you mentioned Ben that that that today we've turned 770 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 1: it all around and we've made them for for pleasure devices, 771 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 1: almost the opposite of their original supposed intention. That's true. 772 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,239 Speaker 1: That is funny. It was originally meant to keep you 773 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 1: from having sex, and now it's like this is part 774 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: of the sex and it's super hot, Tan trick. Now 775 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: your sex is ten hours long. So I do wanna, 776 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 1: I do want to give some shout outs to our 777 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 1: our off fair friends who reacted a bit strangely when 778 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: they heard and no, I don't know if you had 779 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 1: this conversation too, but fact a bit strangely when uh, 780 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 1: we were going to hang out and I said, oh, yeah, no, 781 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 1: I gotta we're doing a two part thing on sex toys, 782 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 1: and and they this is multiple people. They were like, 783 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 1: you mean like you and ol or getting together to 784 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 1: talk about sex toys or it was like no, we're 785 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 1: we're we're hanging out with some other people too. I 786 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,720 Speaker 1: just made it worse. But are married friends, are married 787 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 1: friends were all going to do sex toys together us 788 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: into their relationships. Very progressive. I love it. I did 789 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 1: see someone on Twitter be like, I we said it 790 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 1: some about a two parter, and they were like, isn't 791 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 1: that called a double? A double? Fister? Shout out to fister. 792 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 1: That's the thing. Um unrelated, totally related. I went in 793 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: researching some of the stuff. I found a place that 794 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 1: I think we should all figure out a way to 795 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 1: take a field trip to. In San Francisco there is 796 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 1: a museum, uh for sex toys, and it's called Good 797 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: Vibrations Antique Vibrator Museum specifically. And then of course in 798 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,839 Speaker 1: in New York. The Museum of Sex is really cool. 799 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 1: I've actually been there. Uh. And they have like all 800 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 1: kinds of vintage porn and and sex toys and all 801 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 1: these guys. I mean, it's really just fascinating and it's 802 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,320 Speaker 1: a very very naughty and body Uh. And they have 803 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 1: a gift shop at the end where you know, if 804 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 1: you can imagine what they say there. But yeah, I 805 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 1: don't know if it was a permanent name, but it was. 806 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 1: It was there when I was there. It was a 807 00:52:52,080 --> 00:53:00,839 Speaker 1: bouncy house made of everybody said. There's also I think 808 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 1: there's the Vagina Museum I believe is in England, probably 809 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: in London, but I follow their Twitter account and it's 810 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 1: really awesome, isn't it the Fannie Museum in London? There 811 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 1: it is Fanny I thought was a but no, no, 812 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,759 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. That's why Fannie Pack is hilarious 813 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: to all our British friends. Okay, that would be that 814 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 1: the vagina is already its own fanny pack. Another like 815 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: kind of naughty er. I think that fantasy This is 816 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,279 Speaker 1: this sort of slangy but the word minge oh yeah, yeah, 817 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 1: it's just so visceral sounding. Yeah. While we're on tour. 818 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 1: While you take the Ridiculous Universe on a museum tour, 819 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 1: we should also stop by Iceland. Do you see the 820 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 1: Penis Museum. Oh sure, yeah. I love how open we 821 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 1: all are. Everybody's like, oh yeah, yeah, I don't listen down. 822 00:53:54,920 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm down for that. Hey, I'll see a museum of anything. Yea. Honestly, 823 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,880 Speaker 1: the weirder museums are really more fun. The more niche 824 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,760 Speaker 1: the better because it's took some real weirdos to curate 825 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 1: that stuff. You know, like the Museum of Death. I 826 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 1: think it's one of my favorites of all. There's one 827 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,800 Speaker 1: in Hollywood, and there's one in New Orleans, and there's 828 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 1: the Museum. There's like the Museum of Murder. There's the 829 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 1: Museum of Jurassic Technology, which is uh super cool. I 830 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,399 Speaker 1: think we can. I'll check out one in the world. 831 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 1: We're on the West coast, but I feel you guys. 832 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:33,319 Speaker 1: I love like you were saying incredibly specific museums. It's 833 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 1: why I'm slow on road trips because if I if 834 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm like passing, we did a show on this for 835 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 1: stuff they want you to know. But if I'm like passing, 836 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:45,279 Speaker 1: just some beat up sign that is like the official 837 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,800 Speaker 1: uh the I'm thinking the most ridiculous thing, like the 838 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 1: official Museum of left Shoes throughout history, guaranteed no writings. 839 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 1: Then I'm like, there goes the afternoon. You know, I 840 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,880 Speaker 1: gotta go see. I love it. Have you seen the 841 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 1: Bigfoot Museum in the Curious It's real cool. Niche The 842 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 1: guy that runs it, David. What's the guy's name that 843 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 1: runs up him? David? He is the quintessential niche interest focused, 844 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 1: you know, museum curator. He does such a good job. 845 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 1: Like the exhibits there are very much just inspired by 846 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,320 Speaker 1: I think, like you know, vintage Disney kind of Epcot 847 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 1: type vibes, you know, like Hall of President type. I 848 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,479 Speaker 1: mean it's really really well done and uh, I highly 849 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,440 Speaker 1: recommend anybody passing through check out. I guess the museum. 850 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 1: I guess. My question is where's the Bigfoot sex toy museum? 851 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 1: That's that's the natural progression. This this could be our 852 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:52,840 Speaker 1: contribution to museum sciences. We could make the Bigfoot. Is 853 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,800 Speaker 1: there is there a Bigfoot chat that he built? We 854 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 1: can make one can apparently just make him up, So 855 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,400 Speaker 1: just make one. Have anyone was gonna hulk their way 856 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,239 Speaker 1: out of with chastity about though it's gonna be a 857 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:08,359 Speaker 1: big foot, you can contain those fellas they are. It's 858 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 1: not just you know, big big shoes. This has definitely 859 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 1: altered I don't know about you know, but this is 860 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,800 Speaker 1: altered a lot of the conversations that I'm having in 861 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:31,879 Speaker 1: the future. I am. I've learned a lot. I don't 862 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,239 Speaker 1: know if I wanted to learn all of it, uh, 863 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 1: but now I can't. It's our shows, sweet spots, stuff 864 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 1: you made thought of, you wanted to know about, you didn't. Really, 865 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 1: I'm starting a nonprofit for goats. This is not it's 866 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 1: really the things that the stuff we've learned about goats 867 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,360 Speaker 1: on this show, it's unreasonable. Yeah, I think we did it. 868 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 1: We've talked about every sex toy in history. No, that's 869 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 1: not true. Now there's a whole other episode getting dedicated 870 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 1: to vibrators. Yes, in pornography. Also, I liked all the 871 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 1: porn and brothel stuff out. But it's also very fascinating. 872 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 1: H Well, what a ride. I learned a lot about 873 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 1: the mind, the body, society, and goats. Man. I'm still 874 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm still hung up on it. I'm I'm worried about him. Yeah, 875 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 1: the goats definitely. You know, when elephants fight, the goats 876 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,920 Speaker 1: are the ones who suffer. Isn't that how the expression goes? 877 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 1: You get there? Yeah? Plus yeah, yeah, it's weird like 878 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 1: for some reason, I just can't sit straight either. I 879 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. Oh buddy, oh man, I 880 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 1: might have taken let's let's move along. Seriously. He was 881 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 1: thanks to Diana and Eli for bringing us along on 882 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 1: that raunchy and educational ride. Rawn vacational. It was a 883 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: lot of fun. Yeah, Rawn vacational. But I mean that's 884 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 1: the thing though, you know, history is is is it 885 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 1: is just talk full of this stuff. I mean, ever 886 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 1: since people have, you know, figured out that they had parts, 887 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,400 Speaker 1: they've been figuring out how to put stuff in them. Yes, yes, 888 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,760 Speaker 1: well said. And also we wanna we wanted to say 889 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,280 Speaker 1: that Eli and Diana were so kind to have us on. 890 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 1: We had such a fun time that we're gonna have 891 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: them on in the future. Love their energy, love their chemistry, 892 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 1: and actually also I gotta say I love the research 893 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 1: they conduct. These are smart, witty people, and I feel 894 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 1: like they would want they I feel like they want 895 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 1: both of us to note that it's it's not always sex. 896 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,439 Speaker 1: There's more to romance than sex, so you are gonna 897 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 1: find it's just a fascinating way to explore history. I 898 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 1: think ridiculous Romance. So thanks to them. Do check it out. 899 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,520 Speaker 1: When do us a favorite, go subscribe to their show. 900 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 1: Let us know what your favorite episodes of Ridiculous Romance are. 901 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:58,280 Speaker 1: You can let us know on our Facebook page Ridiculous Historians. 902 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 1: One of the best places is on the internet. Uh, 903 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 1: that's official as of two. We got the award in January. 904 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 1: We also made the award uh and gave it to ourselves. 905 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 1: Just to be clear, but we're also all over the 906 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 1: internet if you want to find us, not just as 907 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 1: a show, but as individuals. The rumors are true, Mr 908 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 1: Noel Brown, I hear you're on Instagram. Who's spread and rumors? 909 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 1: Who's saying all this stuff? It was track them down. 910 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 1: It was a grackle in Austin. Oh my god, have 911 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 1: you guys heard of? The grackle are everywhere. They're like, 912 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 1: you know how I feel about birds. I mean, we 913 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: were in tacos at torches tacos shout out really great tacos. 914 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 1: But um, these guys they're beautiful. They have these iridescent 915 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,440 Speaker 1: feathers to the point where they like they turn a 916 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,919 Speaker 1: certain direction in the light. They almost change colors entirely. 917 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 1: But they're really bold, much bolder than your average pigeon. 918 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 1: And Um, this guy was just I and me amazing, 919 00:59:54,440 --> 01:00:00,120 Speaker 1: literally like direct contact with UM for a taco at 920 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 1: the Grackle. You're not gonna find any bird content on 921 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 1: my page, but if you want to find some, you know, uh, 922 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 1: thirteen year old goth kid content. I say this because 923 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 1: I am the proud father of a thirteen year old. 924 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 1: She said she would, she would, she would take issue 925 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,800 Speaker 1: with that. I don't know what she is. She doesn't 926 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 1: listen to she doesn't actually to podcast. You can find 927 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,680 Speaker 1: me on Instagram exclusively where I am at. How now, 928 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 1: Noel Brown, Ben Boland, Where can people find you? Well, 929 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,440 Speaker 1: if you want, this will be funny. I don't know 930 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 1: if you guys saw this, but late last night I 931 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 1: happened to cross a seller with the padlock undone. I'm 932 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 1: not going to reveal the location in this place, but 933 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 1: I went down into the depths and the seller was 934 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,640 Speaker 1: much larger than it appeared. I believe it actually goes 935 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,640 Speaker 1: under the street. I got to the point where I 936 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 1: might actually need some rope to continue, like we might 937 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 1: be in a splunking situation. You can check that out 938 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 1: on just an HP Lovecraft story. You're describing that. No, 939 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 1: this is like if you go to my story right now, 940 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,840 Speaker 1: you can see it. Uh, it's weird. You can see 941 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 1: this in my more of my behind the scenes adventures 942 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:19,920 Speaker 1: and misadventures and occasionally brushes with authorities, as well as 943 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 1: research I'm doing for upcoming episodes and secret projects. APT 944 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,520 Speaker 1: been bowling bow l I and on Instagram. You can 945 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 1: also talk with me directly there, or you can find 946 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 1: me on Twitter where I'm at ben Bowling h s W. 947 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 1: And while you're on Twitter, why not check out that 948 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,920 Speaker 1: Mr Max Williams. Yes, I am on Twitter. I am 949 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 1: at a t L underscore Max Williams. You can you 950 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,400 Speaker 1: know Seev trolling Bend or you know, retweeting and commenting 951 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,080 Speaker 1: on Eli and Diana, who are amazing and are both 952 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,560 Speaker 1: on Twitter as well. You can also see the formation 953 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 1: of our um are burgeoning nemesis kind of relationship that 954 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,520 Speaker 1: we're both really trying to cultivate and tend to with care. 955 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 1: Um I'm getting I'm out on Twitter. You won't find 956 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,080 Speaker 1: anything about that. You just maybe find Max tweeting into 957 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 1: the void at me, but probably not. I couldn't say 958 01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,680 Speaker 1: you can. You can also, of course, find our pals 959 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime, Zarin and Elizabeth on Twitter, so say hi 960 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:17,960 Speaker 1: to them. I feel like we're listening off a lot 961 01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 1: of Twitter people, uh, a lot of twitteration. But the 962 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 1: point is you can find us. Love to talk to you, 963 01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Universe, Ridiculous News, Ridiculous Crime, and of course, of 964 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 1: course the lovely folks you just heard at Ridiculous Romance. 965 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 1: We have come a long way, no, both as a 966 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 1: show and as and in terms of our well, our knowledge, 967 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:44,720 Speaker 1: of our knowledge of sex toys, and we hope you 968 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:54,080 Speaker 1: have to We'll see you next time, folks. For more 969 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 1: podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, 970 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,760 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.