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Speaker 1: This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to Almost Famous Ogs.

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Speaker 1: It's Trista.

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Speaker 2: Bob is playing in a pebble beach Carmel without me

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Speaker 2: at a golf tournament, which I'm having major fomo about.

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Speaker 2: But the only thing making it better is that Christy

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Speaker 2: Carlson Romano is here as my co host to talk

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Speaker 2: all the Special Forces recap and tee and all the things.

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good.

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Speaker 2: But when I was texting you last night, so a

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Speaker 2: little a little background, I was watching the show, of course,

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, like three quarters of the

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Speaker 2: way through, almost three quarters of the way through, the

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Speaker 2: plane and helicopter crash happened, which, oh my gosh, it

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Speaker 2: is such a horrible story, like I so awful. I

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Speaker 2: just I just can imagine and think about it.

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Speaker 1: Our first episode was the fires, and the fire coverage

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Speaker 1: on the West coast got cut out due to fires.

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Speaker 1: So it's been a really wild I mean, just these

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Speaker 1: few weeks. January has still not ended. I just want

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Speaker 1: to point that out.

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Speaker 3: I want it to be done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to move on, Lordie.

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Speaker 2: We've had enough drama in chaos for the whole year,

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Speaker 2: so yes, So I got cut off and I didn't

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Speaker 2: get to watch it, and so I waited until this morning, yeah,

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Speaker 2: for it to come out on Hulu. I text you

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm so proud of you.

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Speaker 1: You made it.

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Speaker 2: And then like two seconds later on the show, she

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Speaker 2: gets her arm bandfold, so I'm like, I'm she and

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Speaker 2: you didn't respond to me, and I was like, oh crap,

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Speaker 2: what's happening. And you're usually so good about it, and

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, did I say something wrong?

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Speaker 2: And then I saw the show this morning and I

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Speaker 2: was like, well, hello, I totally said, well, you should

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Speaker 2: be so proud, and then it was like the moment

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Speaker 2: that you got pulled from the show. So I'm so

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Speaker 2: sorry that I was clearly obtuse and just an idiot.

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Speaker 1: I honestly thought, because you are so supportive that you

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Speaker 1: had seen it and you were already just being like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you made it that far and just to be proud,

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Speaker 1: because I don't think that the sentiment changes. And it's

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Speaker 1: been a really kind of very introspective twelve hours I think,

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Speaker 1: from you know, it hasn't probably even been twelve hours.

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Speaker 1: My daughter in the middle of the night got a

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Speaker 1: fever because flu's going around right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Ryan's been sick for like a week.

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Speaker 1: And I think a hundred kids were out at the

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Speaker 1: school yesterday because of flu. Oh that's a lot of kids.

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Speaker 3: Watch out for that.

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Speaker 1: It's the January flu. Let's just call it back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: since this is this is what's happening. But she's she'll

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Speaker 1: be okay. It was just it's funny how I've seen

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Speaker 1: this meme or you know, funny reels that us moms

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Speaker 1: they send each other. I should start sending you some

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Speaker 1: to I'm yes, please, okay, good you're you're on the

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Speaker 1: short list now. But you know, we send send each

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Speaker 1: other stuff. And one of the funny things is when

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Speaker 1: you're having an emotional breakdown as a mom, but then

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Speaker 1: you stop because your child comes in and asks you

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Speaker 1: to open a bag of snacks. I'll send you that one.

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Speaker 3: So that's how it felt last night.

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Speaker 1: That's how it felt last night when I was like,

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Speaker 1: care of our babies. So I think that that kind

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Speaker 1: to how we how do you do this? On your pod?

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Speaker 1: You go from the beginning of a show.

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Speaker 2: From the from the beginning, but since you're here, like,

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Speaker 1: Kyla felt the same way, and Kyla spoiler alert, was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. So tell me your thought process and

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Speaker 2: on why you think it's grieving and what you're grieving.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I will sometimes your audience is gonna have to

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Speaker 1: around topics. Maybe they're nice though, maybe you have really

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Speaker 2: We're if even if we had like a script of

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Speaker 2: to go by the script. That's the beauty of our podcast.

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Speaker 2: That's the beauty of most most podcasts. But for now, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: All right, So I I you're right, it's very hard

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Because when you finish your exit interview, when you

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Speaker 2: like closure to me. I don't know. It was amazing.

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Speaker 1: I love that. That's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Billy and years was cute. And I know that you

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Speaker 1: heard it. Thanks Kirstie. Yeah, and it must have been.

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Speaker 2: It was very cathartic. Bob was there and we just

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Speaker 2: laughter just helps with healing. I don't know, it's just magic.

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Speaker 2: So let's tell people what we had to what we

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Speaker 1: You still have it. I still have it. I proposed

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Speaker 1: the world, he's like they, if this was real, they'd

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Speaker 1: Her peach, her peach tush holes, her peach tush. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a problem with this, and I'll

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00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: probably get it fixed or whatever, but it's been something

438
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: that I've always battled with, and you know, I was like,

439
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're going to put us through,

440
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 1: but if I have any like leaks or anything, like

441
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to be gross. Oh yeah, I also

442
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 1: had my period when we first got there. No, you

443
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: did not, Yep, I had my prien I thought about that.

444
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 2: So I have not had a period since my daughter

445
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 2: was born because I had to have an oblasion. But

446
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 2: I was wondering because you know how when women all

447
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: get together then they sync up, and I'm like, if

448
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: one person gets it, then probably everyone will. You had it.

449
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: A couple of us had it, and I won't say who,

450
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: but a couple of us had it, and I just

451
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: so happened to have all the things. Like I was

452
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,119
Speaker 1: like ready to go because I knew like clockwork, but

453
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: what was going to happen and how long? I thought

454
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: maybe the stress of me training and just being being

455
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 1: in a different country and time zone would would make

456
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: it go away. I think I even spoke to the

457
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: medical people prior and was like, hey, is there anything

458
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: we can take? And he's like, well, there is something

459
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: in the field that women take to make them not

460
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: have their period or something, and I was like really,

461
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: I said, no, I'll have it. It's fine, it is

462
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 1: what it is.

463
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, true true story. Like what did you do though?

464
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 2: Because when can you freaking change a DAMPI I.

465
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 3: Know, tell me about it, Tell me about it.

466
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: We all had to get very creative and then by

467
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: of course, in a couple of days it was over.

468
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,719
Speaker 3: But yeah, that was not fun. I was like, I

469
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 3: was like hiding.

470
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: Tampons like in my bergen and in my pocket of

471
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 1: whatever I was wearing, and I was like handing them

472
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: to other people.

473
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 3: Like here, do you want this?

474
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: Because I also didn't want to like blow their spot

475
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: up in front of these cameras. It was my first

476
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: reality show, totally, I was I thought I knew.

477
00:23:58,520 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 3: I thought I knew what I was doing.

478
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 2: You did, Obviously you were good, So back to you.

479
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: Guys got punished for people stowing snacks and contraband. Essentially,

480
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: it wasn't just that.

481
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: My bag was overweight. It was also that he went

482
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: into the We were just messy all the way around.

483
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: And the other thing about I'll say about the sand,

484
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: And this isn't to justify the error that I committed,

485
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: so to speak, but you know, the sand when it's wet,

486
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: it weighs heavier. When it dries totally lighter. So I

487
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: actually do find it really interesting because I did fill

488
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: my bag pretty consistently when Carrie would go out and

489
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: do it. I'm like, I'm gonna do what carry does

490
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: because he knew what to do, and I would just

491
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: follow him around sometimes like a puppy dog.

492
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 3: It was hard not to. I mean, the man just

493
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 3: knows what he's right.

494
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: He's a leader, He's a natural leader.

495
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: That's a gem of a man. And it did break

496
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: my heart when when he got into it broke my.

497
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 2: Heart, I know, I literally was like, so when I

498
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 2: interviewed DS Rudy and DS Billy, they said, you know,

499
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: be proud of yourself. You left when you did. You

500
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: could have left like tripping over you know, like a chord,

501
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 2: just doing it one of the tasks, but just tripping

502
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 2: over something like not even related to the task. And

503
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 2: I remembered. I was like, oh my god, yes that's Carrie.

504
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: And it happened last night. I was like, Ryan, here

505
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: it comes. He's he's gonna fall, and he fell right then.

506
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 2: I felt horrible. And the fact that the four DS

507
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: walked into the medic room and said goodbye to him,

508
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: that just I mean, that shows everybody that he really

509
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: was so respected and looked up to during that.

510
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: Man the DS just got so I feel like it

511
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: must have pissed them off so much that me and

512
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: Kyla didn't quit that night, and they were just like

513
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: God damn it, because then they're like, we lost Carrie

514
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: and now we still got these two buffoons, as they

515
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: like to call us. I'm like, duping. I'm like, I'm

516
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: not leaving. Are you leaving? And She's like, I'm not

517
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: leaving right now. I'll leave tomorrow, but I'm not leaving now.

518
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 5: And I was like yeah, yeah, me too, Yeah yeah,

519
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 5: oh okay.

520
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 2: So we talked about the okay, okay, your your bag,

521
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 2: and then the fact that basically you guys were like,

522
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 2: you know, chaotic.

523
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: And there was other reasons that we were punished. I

524
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: just want to make it clear that it wasn't exclusively

525
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: my bergin. And also, I don't know if you can tell,

526
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: but nobody else saw me or even Kyla as the

527
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: weakest link. I mean, you got the strongest person there

528
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: cam talking to Kyla saying, baby, you got this, you

529
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: just keep going. And then you've got him trying to

530
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: support me. He was you didn't even see like he

531
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: took our bags and he did this, and especially when

532
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: I was dealing with that rock, because there was some

533
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: times when he's like this isn't right. He said that

534
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: to me, He's like, this isn't right, and so he

535
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: would help me with the bags. The day I had

536
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: the rock, there was actually a really funny moment it

537
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: did not get captured.

538
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: When I had the rock in my bag and I looked.

539
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: At Q before U gosh, it must have been once

540
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: we got up there for the.

541
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 3: The line, the moving the line.

542
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: The Tyroullian something Tyrolean traverse is what it's called, I think.

543
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: And I had the rock in my bag and I

544
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: looked at Q and I he's he's obviously such a

545
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: kidd and sometimes you'll catch them off guard because they're

546
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: so stoic and strong. But I'd like to I'd like

547
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: to try to catch them off guard at that point.

548
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: Uh And I said, uh I, uh, Staff, I have

549
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: a name for my my rock because I I know,

550
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: I knew that if they wanted to break me, I

551
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: wanted to show them I still had a sense of humor.

552
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: I said, I have a name for my rock, Staff

553
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: and he was like, what is it? Recruit and I

554
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: was like, it's Dwayne the rock Bergen.

555
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: No, I know what I'm getting you for your birthday

556
00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 2: a little.

557
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 3: Or do you get me a rock with an eyebrow

558
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 3: on it?

559
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is awesome.

560
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 2: I love the behind the scenes moments that we don't

561
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: get to see.

562
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: I think that's why it's fun to have the podcast

563
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: and for you to be the right person. And you know,

564
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: Golden also has his podcast where he's he's coming at

565
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: it from an athletic perspective and it is so interesting.

566
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: Each person's experience of it is reflective. I think of

567
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: the conversations they have with Dyes, the reason they even

568
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: took the contract. Like I see Marion Jones and she's

569
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: doing such a great job of, you know, proving why

570
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: she's her greatness is not questionable, you know, and how

571
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: she's survived through things and is on the other side,

572
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: and I really loved her. There were some people that

573
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: really like you were the first person that really kind

574
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: of messed with morale when you left. Marion was definitely

575
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: for the women, I would say when she left, I

576
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: think we all felt that, and then when Carrie did,

577
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: it was like Jesus, what are we all gonna do now?

578
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: We kind of like you. The air in the room

579
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: was sucked out as soon as Carrie was like shaking

580
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: a week. It was like seeing your dad, like shaking

581
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: a week.

582
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: Yes, your mentor like someone you look up to. I

583
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: mean he was. I know, everyone went to him with

584
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: questions and tried to garner that support from him, and

585
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: you know, same thing I've talked about it, Cam was

586
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: that for me too. He was kind of like, I'm

587
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: going to carry your bag when he came back and

588
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: got me at the beach, when he was like, don't

589
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: you come and get her and he was like whatever,

590
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go help her with her bag and get

591
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: her into this vehicle. So no, I'm so glad that

592
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 2: he continued to do that, and I assumed Golden too.

593
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like it is such teamwork. That's

594
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: I love this part of the show and part of me.

595
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: Like before I went, I really wanted to make it

596
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: to the end, but also my I had little goals.

597
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: I wanted to get to an interrogation. I wanted to

598
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: get to the point where you're writing the death letters.

599
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: I wanted to, you know, get to those little increments.

600
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, what made you want to get to interrogation? I'm curious,

601
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: just why does everyone I mean, then to connect.

602
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: Just to connect. So connection to me is what Leffett

603
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: life is all about, and connecting with the DS. In

604
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: watching the previous seasons, I felt like the interrogation, not

605
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: the interrogation, it's the mirror room, you know, interrogation to me.

606
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: You did get interrogated, did you not.

607
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: I did get a mirror room. Yeah, they didn't show it,

608
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: but I but I did get it. So I was

609
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: thankful for that because I know, like Ali didn't get one,

610
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: and I, well, I think everybody else did. But yeah,

611
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: I was thankful for that because of that connection with

612
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: the DS. They just get to know you on a

613
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: personal level and not like where they're looking like you're

614
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: not looking up at them or they're not looking down

615
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: at you. You're looking just across the table at each other,

616
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: you know, as humans. So that's how I felt like

617
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: the mirror room was.

618
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: That's great, and you.

619
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: Had I'm thankful that they did show your mirror room.

620
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: But you're right, like Kayla's mirror room was shown or

621
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: part of it was shown in the first episode. I

622
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: feel like, so the two hours, so I don't know

623
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: if it was actually the first or the second, but

624
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: when they show her coming back from her mirror room.

625
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: My cot was already gone. If you notice, my cot

626
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: was gone, So that was definitely after I had left.

627
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: She had her mirror room. So you're right, like, they

628
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: are definitely not showing you in order what's happening. So

629
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: I like that you clarified that the mirror room that

630
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: you that was shown for you was earlier on and

631
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: you didn't really have that.

632
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: Like support reportive dialogue. I did not.

633
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: I did not.

634
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: In fact, like I was shocked after the coffin that

635
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: they didn't try to pull me in and be like, hey.

636
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 3: Like are you are you good? Because that was insane.

637
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were crying the whole time, weren't you.

638
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: So here's the thing, Actually, I wasn't crying.

639
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: They looped. They looped a lot of that because I

640
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: think I was singing the Bluey theme song pretty much.

641
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: Okay, do you want to see.

642
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: What I did? Maybe we could make this an asset.

643
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 4: Okay, Oh my god, yes, I was like, mom oh

644
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 4: that's what I actually did.

645
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: So in Katrina, who was the producer, she said that

646
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: they were all texting each other and they're like, what

647
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: is she singing?

648
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 3: Because they don't have Bluey in the UK.

649
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: In the UK and so so many goes. I think

650
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: it's the bluey theist.

651
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know what, I have a song,

652
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: a song story, so before the show in a way

653
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: to prepare, like I thought, if I got to the

654
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: torture end, like the end of it when they're torturing you,

655
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: I was like, there's only so much you can like

656
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: talk to yourself in positive terms, the mantras, you know,

657
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: the everything, And I was like, I need to have

658
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: a song that I can just sing on a loop

659
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: to myself over and over again. Yep. And my song

660
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: was uh American pie.

661
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a good one. Mine was because I.

662
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: Know every word and like song so long.

663
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: Oh that's so smart. That's so smart. And we're and

664
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: we're very aligned because mine was going to be, oh

665
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: my gosh, back to life, back to Reality. That was

666
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: gonna be mine in there, but it probably would have

667
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: ended up but it probably would have ended up being

668
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: the blue theme song again.

669
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 3: No, no, you.

670
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: Know how they asked us what our song would be

671
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: it like when we're entering the course, you know, like

672
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 2: exiting or whatever.

673
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: Yours should have like back to life.

674
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: Back to reality, Like you should have used that on

675
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: a reel for for when you were finished with the show.

676
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: Exactly, that's amazing.

677
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: Exactly, And I posted, you know, I posted.

678
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: Our our back to life, back to reality with Kyla

679
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: and I are little Oh you did, yes, our little

680
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: fun thing. And I don't know if I'm jumping ahead,

681
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: and I'm.

682
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: Sure we could talk about but it's fine.

683
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think, you know, I did think that

684
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: maybe they would check in with me after the coffin,

685
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: and so since they hadn't done that, and I don't

686
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: know what day that happened, but I think the day

687
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: before might have been the I don't even know honestly

688
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: what day that my teriation actually happened, but you know,

689
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: I was kind of kind of struggling. They were right

690
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: my head. My head might have been down. I can

691
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: see that. I was definitely kind of like when we

692
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: go on these missions, there's always an extra step that

693
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: they didn't explain to us, that's totally and so I

694
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: started to really try to process on the go and

695
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: my face has no filter, and so I'm looking.

696
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 3: At it and I'm like, oh, she's thinking hard.

697
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: Yep, I could see it.

698
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: I could see it. I'm sure you were like, oh,

699
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: I know exactly what's going on in that girl's mind.

700
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 3: I was like, what are you doing?

701
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeap, yep, right, okay, So you have the rock, you

702
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: have to pick up the rock, you have to put

703
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: the rock in your backpack. And how much do you

704
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: you said it was probably like one hundred and fifty pounds.

705
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, fifty or wait it was fifty pounds.

706
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: Fifty pounds.

707
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: I think the pound made my burgin fifty pounds.

708
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: That is crazy, Yeah, that's crazy. I'm sorry.

709
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: And I also picked up a rock that was too tiny,

710
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: and Q had me go get another rock that was

711
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: the right size. So they didn't show.

712
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: That party the right size. Okay, so all of the

713
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 2: girls in going back to the recap, all of the

714
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 2: girls didn't. It didn't pass. I cannot find my words today.

715
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: They didn't pass the Tyrolean like traverse thing. How are

716
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: you feeling doing that challenge? Like? Was it fun? Was

717
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: it scary? Was it something that you were excited to do?

718
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: I know that some of the things we've talked about,

719
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: like you know, the helicopter, like it was exhilarating in

720
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: a way. How are you feel with that challenge?

721
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: I mean I had a lot of wins and I

722
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 1: knew that, and then when they paired me up with Cam,

723
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: I thought that I was I thought I was in

724
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: good shape. Like I was like, Cam's got my back,

725
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: and he would talk to me and say, you know,

726
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: get out of your head and just do it. And

727
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: so that's where I was at with it. He was like,

728
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: get out of your head and let's just do this.

729
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: But the thing about this Trillian traverse or terrass, yeah,

730
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: what is it traverse? Was that youse, you don't hook

731
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: your feet as tightly as you think you need to.

732
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: So my leg got a massive bruise behind the knee

733
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: because I linked my my leg and I just because

734
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: I thought when I watched Rudy that that he kind

735
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: of crossed the feet. But you really got to be

736
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: so almost like a ballet dancer when you're like gently

737
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: and gracefully going. So that was something that you know,

738
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: experience would teach you. But uh, in terms of the

739
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: women not being able to hold themselves up right like that,

740
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: I truly don't think women are built too unless are

741
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: fitness focused folks. I don't know anyone, any female on

742
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: our on our recruit team that could have even I

743
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: know that Kayla is so so so so so so strong.

744
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

745
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 2: But at that point, you know, you're you're pulling yourself

746
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: and I assume there's some pulling involved, so your.

747
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: Hands have already got to be like.

748
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: You know, so tired from pulling yourself across the rope.

749
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: And I was saying to Ryan because he did Fear

750
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: Factor back in the day and they did do like

751
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: a traverse like that. Oh they did, and they did,

752
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: and he was like, that's really hard, and he's like

753
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: they have to go a really long way. He's like,

754
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: on Fear Factor, we did like half of that or

755
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: a quarter of that. So I know that it's like

756
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: your hands like have got to be so tired and

757
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: then you have to hang afterwards. So yeah, I that

758
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: seemed really really hard to me, although from your couch,

759
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: I know for people it probably looked easier than it

760
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 2: actually is, which I think all of the things on

761
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: Special Forces everything looks easier.

762
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: Wild. I've been getting some dms that I have not

763
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: warranted and had to block because there are people that

764
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: are like you just were out of breath or you know,

765
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: you you it's just wild. I'm like, let's bury.

766
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 3: You in the sad and see.

767
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: How you're yeah right, Like so I'm really, I really am.

768
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 3: I'm really starting to look at this and say, life is.

769
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: You look at it and at the tender age of

770
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: forty about to be forty one, I need to truly

771
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: practice that. And I was a reality show virgin and

772
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: this was such an eye opening experience. So there's so

773
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: many positives to take away from it. And it is

774
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: again like how you look at the experiences is how

775
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: you will be able. And I remember they kept I

776
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: don't know if they told us this when you were there,

777
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: but they were like, look around, like this is it's

778
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: a great experience, like this is You're not going to

779
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: get anything like this anywhere else.

780
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: You're so right. I feel like that's spot on. What

781
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: have you learned? What have you taken away as your

782
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: favorite like lesson of it all?

783
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: Well, I actually think that the biggest lesson that I'm

784
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: learning is right now, it's you know, how to put

785
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: something behind you, you know. I think one of the

786
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: things that I talked more Okay, first of all, I

787
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: don't think I talked about being a child actor as

788
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: much as the interviews and whatnot. Let On, I spoke

789
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 1: much more about my husband than the past life of mine.

790
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: So it was really wild when it kept coming up,

791
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: because I was like, oh, no, people are going to

792
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: think this is all I talk about, But there is

793
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: something to say where it's like the focus in your

794
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: life should just be on the present and and and

795
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: staying focused on your journey and really taking it seriously

796
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 1: because you have one life and you can stay present

797
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: to do that, or even as challenging like in being sober,

798
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: which I don't mind talking about, it's like you have

799
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: to stay committed to that. That's a daily thing. But

800
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: it's not just enough to not do that. There's so

801
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: much more that you can commit to yourself to stay

802
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: present and to keep growing and keep pushing yourself. And

803
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: for a lot of people that's really hard, you know.

804
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: And so in some ways it's just great to do

805
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: crazy stuff like this to show us that we can

806
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: still do hard things even though we're like moms and

807
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: you know, getting older, and.

808
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: It gives you such perspective. Like my favorite lesson out

809
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: of all of this is that I came back with

810
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 2: such a greater appreciation for my life, feeling like I'm

811
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: really lucky, you know, like I thankfully live in a

812
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: country where there are people who sacrifice their lives for

813
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 2: our freedom, and I can I can live kind of

814
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: in a state of bliss that maybe I wouldn't be

815
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 2: able to if I had been born in the Middle

816
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: East or something, you know. So I just kind I

817
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: came home with a greater appreciation for my life and

818
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: a perspective.

819
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, that was that's dead on. I mean I think.

820
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 3: That she definitely have a deeper appreciation.

821
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: And the truth is, even when i've and it's been

822
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: since May, so there's been stages, like you said, of

823
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: the grief of like, you know, there's been times when

824
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: maybe I was too upset about something and my husband's like,

825
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: look that was like eight days of your life. I

826
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: did it for four years. There's people who do it

827
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: for so long. I mean, I remember Q saying that

828
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: he Bud's training was one hundred like a whole year,

829
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: he said. And so these people aren't getting paid a

830
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: lot of money. You know, we got paid very well

831
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: to be on the show. And it's like you got

832
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: to be so grateful, you got to be so grateful

833
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: for all of it, right, and so yeah, yeah, yeah,

834
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: it was totally.

835
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 3: Well, I still couldn't believe I did it.

836
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: I was watching it last night. I was like, what

837
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: did I do? Why did I do this? Why? Why

838
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: were we so crazy? I know, what the heck is

839
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: wrong with us? Yeah? I was looking at it like

840
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: at one point and I was just like, what, I

841
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: don't And it wasn't even the mud.

842
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: It might have been like.

843
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: I think it was actually after I got eliminated, and

844
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: then I saw people fling each other over each other's bodies,

845
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: and then I was like, this is a crazy show.

846
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 2: Like the fact that Golden was collapsing with Cam on

847
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 2: his back. I was like, I was trying to think

848
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: if I had still been there, who they would have

849
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: made me, Carrie, because they totally would have made the

850
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 2: little people if you or me or Kyla or Denise

851
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: were still there or Ali, and Ali could have done

852
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: it because she freaking was a beast and was training

853
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 2: like up to you know, we left like crazy. But

854
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: I was like, who would they have made me carry?

855
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: Because I'm flashing back to Jojo Siwa, Oh yeah, hearing

856
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: was it Body Miller or Tom Sandivil? She was carrying

857
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: Tom Sandoval, Like, I was flashing back to that and

858
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: how much respect I gained just in that instant of

859
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: watching her for her, like, what how is she carrying

860
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: a full grown man on her back? You know?

861
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 1: Jojo was a very solidly built person with a lot

862
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: of gymnastic experience and yeah, and has the kind of

863
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: strength that like Kayla has. So I think that if look,

864
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: if I was to, if anybody would say, hey, what

865
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: advice would you give somebody that wants to be on

866
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: the show, I'd be like, if you want to be

867
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: on the show, start training now. If you know that

868
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: you have an agent, you're like, my agent's gonna pitch

869
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: me for this, But because I really want to be

870
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: in it, just start training now. Don't wait till you hear,

871
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: don't wait till anything like, because then at least you

872
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: know that you've committed from the moment that you decided.

873
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: You know, people might be watching, and it can't hurt No, Like,

874
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: the training is not gonna hurt you. It's gonna help you.

875
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: You're gonna be healthy, healthy, healthier for it, So why

876
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: not just train? Yeah?

877
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: I wish I wish I didn't.

878
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 2: Have my superstitious tendencies because I stopped working out.

879
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: I stopped freaking training.

880
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: Because I thought I wasn't gonna be on the show

881
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: because I was like, oh, I'm gonna test fate and

882
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep working out and they're gonna say no,

883
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna be working out for no reason. I

884
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: mean not really, it's not no reason because I was

885
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: doing it for myself.

886
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: Your hypothermia would not have out. It didn't matter if

887
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: you would have oh you know what I mean, like, yeah, that's.

888
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 3: Temperature wise, there's yeah, definitely no way that would have

889
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 3: been well.

890
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: But it wasn't for me. It wasn't just the hypothermia.

891
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: It was the in between tasks where we were running

892
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: everywhere with our packs on our back, and I just

893
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: couldn't handle it. Like I am watching the what did

894
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: you call it, the seals hike or the going where

895
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: you I think where they took your arm.

896
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: I think it was called the seals Hike. Seals Hike.

897
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I kept watching that thinking that is my

898
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 2: worst nightmare, Like I and then carrying people like and

899
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: then throwing the bugs, I don't know, the bucks.

900
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 5: I'm done, done, done, that's it done.

901
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: I would have handed it over. It's so funny. Again.

902
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: I have a funny story about my husband and when

903
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: he was when he was in he actually has a

904
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: now has a massive fear of spiders, which Alana mentions

905
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: when she's using the bathroom. My husband, I think he

906
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: was in twenty nine Palms or I was stationed and

907
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: they were digging in so they like dig into the

908
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: sand on an exercise. It was in Camp Pedalton. Okay,

909
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: he just said Camp Pedalton. He's my fact checker.

910
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: Guys.

911
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: He dug into the desert and they had to sleep

912
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: there overnight, but they dug into a tarantula breeding ground

913
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: which activated at night. So in the middle of the night,

914
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: all these marines, young marines start screaming because their body

915
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 1: parts are being nibbled and they all have to strip naked.

916
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: Tarantula's nonetheless like not to spiders, tarantulism chomping them and

917
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: then they have to strip naked just to get them off,

918
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: and they're screaming.

919
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 3: So I was like he had there are some funny

920
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 3: stories that come out of that's not funny.

921
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: That is not funny, you know.

922
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 3: I think like these guys.

923
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 1: Have really dark senses of humor for that reason because

924
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: they go through it.

925
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: Oh well, no kidding, you have to, I mean and

926
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: the fact you said that Alana was scared of the spider,

927
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 2: I felt like she wasn't. If that spider had been

928
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: on my butt, I would have been screaming.

929
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: I would have run.

930
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: Out of that toilet without my clothes on. She was

931
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: just like, oh, there was a spider on my butt.

932
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, what hell are you?

933
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: Like?

934
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: So calm? She's really calm. She's a really lovely so

935
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: I love her.

936
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: I love her. I reached out to her after I

937
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: finished the episode and just said, you are freaking crushing it.

938
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 2: She is an inspiration to all of the moms out there,

939
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: like all of the moms who have young kids. Yep.

940
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: She was freaking.

941
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 2: Carrying her both of her babies doing hikes like all

942
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: of us should just be like bowing down to her

943
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 2: as moms and being like, yeah, we're going to be

944
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 2: like you, or we're gonna try because that is such

945
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: an inspiration.

946
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: She's just I mean, I didn't realize how strong she

947
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: was because no kids. When we did the gas thing,

948
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: and she she gets very scared, and so there was

949
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: times when I was like, girl, you're not leaving, You're

950
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: not leaving, like you gotta stay. But when it came

951
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: to the certain types of training things. She really nailed it.

952
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: And when I saw her going up, I was like,

953
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: that's why she's able to stay. She's meant to stay.

954
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: She's not ready to leave. Yeah, so we'll see, right, No.

955
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 2: Spoilers, Yeah, no spoilers. She's still there thanks to Kyla.

956
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: I feel like Kyla was like, don't you leave me.

957
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 2: You're not leaving me. I know.

958
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 3: Kayla didn't want to be the only girl. She was like,

959
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 3: don't leave me with these men, right, I just lost

960
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: to girls. I don't need you gone to.

961
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so we have to wrap soon. But I

962
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: do want to touch on your mirror room interview and

963
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 2: how you talked about your mom and having to let

964
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 2: her go as you as your manager. How are things

965
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: now between do you know mom and your family?

966
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: So, my mom has been obviously so supportive.

967
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 3: My mom is my number one fan.

968
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: She like, you know, I'm writing a memoir right now,

969
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: and yeah, there's a lot of things that I'd like

970
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: to kind of dig into, so I need to be

971
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 1: chronologically accurate. She always brings over too much stuff. She's

972
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: hoarded all this stuff, these playbills, these pictures, and she

973
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: brought a box of Kodak images last night for me

974
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: to like go through and I know that to put

975
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: the kids down and then we're gonna start watching this.

976
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,959
Speaker 1: And I had texted her. I texted her before I said, Mom,

977
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: we talk about you in tonight's episode. She's like, Okay,

978
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: we'll deal with it when I get there, right, And

979
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking through all the images and I realize, you know,

980
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: she's just always been there for me, even if we

981
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: had these hard times. As many people who grow up

982
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: in this business do a lot. Most people don't talk

983
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: about it. Most people don't talk about their stage parent

984
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 1: being you know, complex or complicated. I know, so meant actually,

985
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 1: three quarters, if not ninety five percent of stage parents

986
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: make mistakes in ways that can range from really super

987
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: abusive to just general mistakes like oh I financially didn't

988
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: set you up. I'm so sorry, but then you can't

989
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: get those years back right. So I felt like I

990
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: was very authentic in the mirror room. I felt like

991
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: I was very respectful of what happened between me and

992
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: my mom, and she sat there with me and we

993
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: watched the together, and I looked at her, and my

994
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: husband was nice enough to be taking care of the girls.

995
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: I said, Mom, what are you thinking right now? And

996
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: she was like, yeah, She's like, it's it's true. That

997
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 1: is what happened. That's true. And it's weird. It's almost

998
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: like my mom was there with me and going through

999
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: you know, she sees your little girl going through this

1000
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: crazy experience and you can be rooting for her, but

1001
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: you're really a piece of you is there. So it

1002
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: was really it was really touching to see her take

1003
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: accountability too and just be like, it's all good, and

1004
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: maybe I'll check in with her.

1005
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 3: I'll call my mom after this. Okay, trist Die, see

1006
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:34,959
Speaker 3: what you're doing.

1007
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: You will, yes, you look, she lives here. She lives here.

1008
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: She lives close to me in Texas, and I take

1009
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: care of her and I love her and I take

1010
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: her to her surgeries, and you know, it's like she

1011
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: just wants to be a part of my life. And

1012
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: it was really only one year that I hadn't take

1013
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 1: the break, and I think that was the healthiest thing

1014
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: for me. But there's a whole bunch of other stuff

1015
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: you go through after you leave your parents house, right

1016
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 1: like you become this adult. I just was a little

1017
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: delayed and ended up just not not, and he you

1018
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: know what, Foxy, God bless him.

1019
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 3: He got it.

1020
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: He was like this autonomy thing, you wanted it and

1021
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: then you didn't know what.

1022
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 3: To do with it. And then I got really emotional.

1023
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's really introspective. Like it's true, I

1024
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: would assume and so hard. Like I feel like we

1025
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 2: hear stories about child actors who just go down really

1026
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 2: bad paths, you know, just for whatever reason. And thank God,

1027
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: you know, you came out on the other side of

1028
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: it and got to do special Forces and holy challenge

1029
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 2: yourself and be crazy.

1030
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 4: There.

1031
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 3: Yes, there's three dimensions to everyone.

1032
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: That is true. And I think that's why I did

1033
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: the show, was just to kind of show people like, hey,

1034
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: like I may have talked about this in the past

1035
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: and this may be how you know me, but like

1036
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm a full other person too, And I still can't

1037
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: believe I did this show. I know, it's so weird.

1038
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: Literally, Okay, I'm gonna end on this. But so the

1039
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 2: almost famous podcast with Ben and Ashley is you know,

1040
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 2: we're kind of the not the sidekick, the spinoff of that, Okay,

1041
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: and well, I guess you could call us a sidekick,

1042
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: and they just had Wells Adams who was on Traders.

1043
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 2: He's part of Bachelor Nation and he was on Traders,

1044
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 2: and they were talking about Special Forces because Ashley predicted

1045
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 2: that I was going to be on this season. She

1046
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 2: said it to me so long before they even asked me,

1047
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 2: and so they started talking about how Ashley thinks that

1048
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: Ben is going to be asked next, and Wells was like,

1049
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 2: don't do it, dude, don't do it. Just do Traders.

1050
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 2: That show is crazy, and I'm like, no kidding, it

1051
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 2: really is. What were we thinking.

1052
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: That's so funny? Would you do Traders? Trista totally. I

1053
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: love to do that show. You heard it, honestly, you know.

1054
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: I feel like the camaraderie that there was, and that's

1055
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: kind of part of me is the fomo of missing

1056
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 2: out on the bonding that you guys did after I

1057
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: left and then what they're still doing like I love,

1058
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: I love. Like I said in the beginning of this

1059
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: podcast is connection. It just means everything to me. And

1060
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: so for that reason, I would love to do Traders.

1061
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: I love to travel. Why not go live in a

1062
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: castle in Scotland and meet all kinds of fun people

1063
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: that I never would have before. So yeah, sign me

1064
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: up for Traders? Love it anyway?

1065
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: Would you do it? I don't know about reality. I

1066
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: don't know if it's the best look for me. I

1067
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: don't know you're done. I don't know I'm done. You

1068
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: got to give me a few days, you know, we'll see.

1069
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: I think I really love hosting. I will tell you

1070
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: that much. I love hosting. And I'm pretty sure I

1071
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: want to go back to doing theater. And because I

1072
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: think I just want to, like re like, I want

1073
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: to fall back in love with with with what I'm

1074
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: good at, my skills, and kind of like the theater

1075
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: is that and it always has been for me, so

1076
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: I should do it. And maybe that's part of what

1077
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: all this is is just what are you doing after this?

1078
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: You know, rather than like, you know, book another movie,

1079
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: book another whatever, shoot another campaign. It's like, no, like

1080
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: meaningful amount of your life? What do you what are

1081
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: you bringing meaning to it? Did that make sense? Yeah,

1082
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: Jesus one hundred percent.

1083
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 2: I feel like that's part of why I went I

1084
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 2: wanted to know what my purpose was other than being

1085
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: a mom, Like I love being a mom. I will

1086
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: continue to be a mom, but I think that's what

1087
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: I went into it. For so I do have to wrap.

1088
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. We could talk forever now and ever

1089
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 2: will We'll keep texting me so much. Well, duh, and

1090
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 2: thank you Christy for coming on the almost famous og pad.

1091
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 2: I hope everyone will continue to watch Special Forces on

1092
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 2: Fox on Wednesday nights. Next week will be I feel

1093
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 2: like the finale and then it will air on Hulu afterwards,

1094
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: and then they'll show our reunion.

1095
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: That's right, well, we'll be read.

1096
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 3: We should do something.

1097
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: You and I should do something on live, like we

1098
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: could be live with each other.

1099
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 3: That would be kind of fun.

1100
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: Oh love, I love that. YT's do it. Let's text

1101
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: the week chat. We're gonna text the group chat. You're

1102
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: hearing it here. First text the group chat and try

1103
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: to see how many people we could admit into the

1104
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: live while doing it, and we'll host so fun. Okay, oh,

1105
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: I love it.

1106
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 2: All right, thanks for coming.

1107
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Speaker 1: All right, bye, We'll love bye