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Speaker 1: Chapping. Everybody.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to a Monday edition of Texans All Access from

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Speaker 2: the Honday Texans.

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Speaker 1: Radio Studio mobile version.

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Speaker 2: Yeay you boy, John Harris Football, anal sideline reporter for

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Speaker 2: your Houston Texans on the road but still getting shows done.

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Speaker 2: And boyd, we have a good one for you can

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Speaker 2: hear from one of the Texans free agent sinees. One

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Speaker 2: of the actually might have been a first one they

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Speaker 2: had this offseason non extension. You know, a guy from

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Speaker 2: outside the team, lacln Tomlinson. Boy, we had a really

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Speaker 2: good time talking with Lake and Tomlinson. I said to Mark,

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Speaker 2: each and every year when a new player comes in,

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Speaker 2: be it drafted or free agent, a lot of times

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Speaker 2: I can look over at Mark and go, Okay, I

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Speaker 2: get it. I understand completely why the Texans were interested

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Speaker 2: and had been interested in a guy like Lake and Tomlinson.

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Speaker 2: So we'll have Laken Tomlinson a little later in the show.

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Speaker 2: But we're gonna kick off our show with one of

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Speaker 2: my great friends, a guy that the people in Houston

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Speaker 2: know pretty well. He's one of the best insiders there

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Speaker 2: is in the entire league. I love him because he

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Speaker 2: can do so much and he and Steve Smith Senior,

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Speaker 2: who played for the Panthers play for the Ravens. They

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Speaker 2: do a tremendous YouTube and focused a lot on wide

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Speaker 2: receivers during the draft and right after the draft, I

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Speaker 2: got some texts from James Palmer saying, Hey, what do

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Speaker 2: you think about the Higgins and the Higgins draft pick?

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Speaker 2: That's the first one I got. And then a little

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Speaker 2: bit later it's like, hey, man, you got both of them.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, I love it. And then he

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Speaker 2: started sending me texts and stories people he had talked to,

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Speaker 2: coaches that he had talked to, and I thought, you

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Speaker 2: know what, let's let him tell you those stories. So

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Speaker 2: here's James Palmer from Bleacher Report, formerly of the NFL Network,

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Speaker 2: formerly of CSN Houston.

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Speaker 1: Check out the YouTube eighty nine.

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Speaker 2: He and Steve Smith Senior do a hell of a

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Speaker 2: job on YouTube, especially when it comes to receivers. They

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Speaker 2: are fantastic. Here's James Palmer and myself. Let's go all right,

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Speaker 2: I get to join one of my favorite people on

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Speaker 2: the face of the earth.

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Speaker 1: He may not know this.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love having this guy on the air with

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Speaker 2: me anytime. I love when he texts me, calls me,

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Speaker 2: uh because he's one of the best insiders you're gonna

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Speaker 2: find in the NFL. We talk ball, we talk food,

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Speaker 2: we talk pretty much anything, and that's my man. James

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Speaker 2: Palmer BLEACHERR Report does one hell of a YouTube. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna get to this the YouTube show with Steve Smith

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Speaker 2: because it's it's absolutely incredible.

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Speaker 1: But I got this.

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Speaker 2: Text, I think it was the Saturday, was Monday after

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Speaker 2: the draft. What do you think of Higgins and Nol

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Speaker 2: in the fit? I responded, and then I got this

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Speaker 2: text back from James Palmer. Only knock I heard on

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Speaker 2: Higgins and this guy knows him inside out, is that

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Speaker 2: he's a little too nice of a guy, needs a

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Speaker 2: little bit more bleephole in him. That's literally the only negative,

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Speaker 2: and that's from a coach that loves him. James Palmer,

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Speaker 2: First of all, welcome to the show. Second of all,

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Speaker 2: you were very close kind of watching the Higgins Nol

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Speaker 2: tapes with Steven breaking him down and do a great

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Speaker 1: Welcome in. What were your thoughts about those two coming

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Speaker 1: to Houston.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the first thing I would say is, I don't

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Speaker 3: know if people give IOWA stayed as a program enough credit.

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Speaker 3: And give Matt Campbell enough credit. I've been there, I've

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Speaker 3: talked to Matt, you know, I remember doing David Montgomery's

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Speaker 3: then that stood out to evaluators I talked to, which

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Speaker 3: with our show being so receiver specific, those are the

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Speaker 3: and it's like you look at Nol like that's like

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Speaker 3: They play well off of one another. You mentioned what

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Speaker 3: I'm like, how is this guy not getting talked about more?

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Speaker 3: This is Drake London? Like that's what he kept saying.

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Speaker 3: He's like, this is Drake London. And when did Drake

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Speaker 3: Lennon go in the drug? Right? Like so he's like,

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure why nobody's falling in love with him.

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Speaker 3: we should have done that. And that's kind of what

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Speaker 3: And I'd heard that from multiple people, and it's mainly

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Speaker 2: Seen it out, Like he said on a podcast, James,

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Speaker 2: he said in a podcast that he did I can't

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Speaker 3: Now I loved him, and now everybody knows. I mean

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Speaker 3: But like he also what we mentioned about Higgins, he's

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Speaker 3: brings that competitor. Not to say I'm not saying Jay

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Speaker 2: He is.

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Speaker 3: He's he certainly is. But this guy brings that little

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Speaker 3: That might happen once in a while with him, but

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Speaker 2: So I was we were at practice, one of the

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Speaker 2: He's one of my favorite guys ever. And he looked

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Speaker 2: which was that six four to two hundred and ten

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Speaker 2: So I'll go one step further with those two and

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Speaker 2: I always listened to Seth Payne in the morning as

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Speaker 2: I don't really count on rookies until they show you

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Speaker 2: they can do it. So they added Christian Kirk, they

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Speaker 2: you about it. After a little while, they added Justin Watson,

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Speaker 1: So I'll make it very simple. Is that enough?

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Speaker 2: Is that enough firepower at receiver James in your opinion?

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Speaker 2: Adding those two rookies, adding Watson, adding Kirk, two Nico

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Speaker 1: Straub this year and beyond.

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Speaker 3: I mean the initial thought is yes, right, and then

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Speaker 3: we go back to last year and where like teams

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Speaker 3: trade one of these guys, and yeah, a Sunday end

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Speaker 3: up having to use everybody. I think it is, I

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Speaker 3: really do. I almost feel like Nole's an insurance policy

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Speaker 3: he's played and who he's played with. I think that's

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes And I mean like, and Pat makes you

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Speaker 3: earn it. You know how much I've been around that team. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he makes you earn it. And so when that's a

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Speaker 3: a top ten dog in Nico, I think you should

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Speaker 3: have enough. I think this is one of the better

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Speaker 3: rooms in the league. But we've seen what you do need.

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Speaker 3: Like Philly has DeVante Smith, who would be a one

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Speaker 3: on ninety percent of NFL teams without a J. Brown.

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Speaker 3: You know, Jamar Chase has t Like you look at

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Speaker 3: are Mechabuka, who's just straight up pro coming out and

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Speaker 3: think somebody in the group needs to step up into

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Speaker 3: that spot and go with the attention Nico can get.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be open consistently, that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: What that's what Houston has to do, is like who

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Speaker 2: James Palmer and Filla Insider, one of the best you're

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Speaker 2: They'll, you know, they'll basically they flowers themselves out of

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Speaker 3: like it's they're built differently, but they're the two best,

434
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Speaker 3: I would say. And Philly has had a better obviously

435
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Speaker 3: run last couple of years in the postseason. But I

436
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 3: do think the AFC is obviously a little bit different

437
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Speaker 3: animals sometimes in the postseason.

438
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Speaker 2: You mentioned earlier, just kind of thrown into something we

439
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Speaker 2: were talking about. You mentioned Aaron Rodgers. So per the

440
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Speaker 2: radio constitution that we all have to sign when we

441
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Speaker 2: get into radio, I have to ask you it is

442
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Speaker 2: mandatory to know everybody, Oh yeah, is he married?

443
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Speaker 4: No?

444
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Speaker 1: I joke.

445
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Speaker 2: I would want to know your opinion about how you

446
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Speaker 2: think this goes in Pittsburgh with Aaron Rodgers. I mean,

447
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 2: he is mercurial, but he still can throw it. I

448
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 2: knowpe some people pointed the numbers last year, and the

449
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,400
Speaker 2: numbers really weren't the story. He doesn't move as well,

450
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Speaker 2: and maybe that is the story in Pittsburgh. Are got

451
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Speaker 2: off the line. It's gonna have to kind of figure

452
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Speaker 2: it out. A couple of former first round picks on

453
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Speaker 2: the outside. In particular, what's your thought about Aaron Rodgers

454
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Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh this one year as he says, ye, I'll

455
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 2: believe you when I see it.

456
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Speaker 1: But he says, one year in Pittsburgh, what do you

457
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Speaker 1: think about it?

458
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Speaker 3: Yeah? First, since first you mentioned he can still sling it.

459
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 3: The arm is still there. I talked to people in

460
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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh who were like, even just in he only did

461
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Speaker 3: individuals during mini camp, but they're like, you still see

462
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Speaker 3: the flick of the wrists. They still see this, the

463
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 3: quick motion and the juice is still there. It's one

464
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Speaker 3: of the best arms this league's ever seen, maybe the

465
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Speaker 3: best arm this league's ever seen, in all honesty in

466
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Speaker 3: terms of arm talent. And I think it's such a

467
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Speaker 3: dramatic difference from let's just use New York as an

468
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Speaker 3: example as the Jets and the Giants, because the Giants

469
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 3: were very interested in them. He was going to have

470
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Speaker 3: to lift all boats in New York if he went

471
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Speaker 3: to the Giants instead of the Steelers, and in New

472
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Speaker 3: York with the Jets when he arrived there, it was

473
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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is the savior. He needs to turn this

474
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Speaker 3: entire team around. We have some good young players. Aaron

475
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 3: needs to do everything. Yep. He even mentioned it on McAfee.

476
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm watching practice and it's like there's Cam Hayward,

477
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Speaker 3: T J. Watson even out here, and I know what

478
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Speaker 3: type of leader and dominant player he is. Like everything

479
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 3: is already in place. I got to go play quarterback.

480
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 3: And I think that is actually in his favor to

481
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 3: where it's an established franchise with one of the best

482
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Speaker 3: coaches in football that has created a culture that he's entering.

483
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Speaker 3: He doesn't have to change a culture or be in

484
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Speaker 3: charge of a culture, and I think that helps him

485
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Speaker 3: at this point in his career, and it helps him

486
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Speaker 3: because of the way he's wired, let's be honest, and

487
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 3: the type of guy he is. I also think there

488
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 3: is a better fit than people think. I initially had

489
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Speaker 3: heard from people that have coached with Art was like,

490
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Speaker 3: this is like Art's not going to back down and

491
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 3: these two are going to go head to head with

492
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Speaker 3: each other and it's going to be some interesting meeting rooms.

493
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Speaker 3: But then I also talked to some guys that coached

494
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Speaker 3: with Lafloor when Aaron was there and was like, I

495
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 3: can really see this working because of Art and Laflora's

496
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Speaker 3: relationship from Nashville, and there can be a lot of

497
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Speaker 3: carryover system wise about the way they can make this work.

498
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Speaker 3: And Arthur has been working for months on a system

499
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 3: specifically designed for for Aaron. I think the lines better

500
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 3: than it was in New York for him. I think

501
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 3: the skill guys are essentially maybe the same. I think

502
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 3: Art Wilson's a great player, just for some reason it

503
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 3: hasn't really worked out that great. But like DK is

504
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 3: a good player. I think. I know Aaron loves Firemouth,

505
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 3: and I think it's a good tight end. The other

506
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 3: tight end, what's his name, Washington, Washington, like the guy

507
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 3: who's like three pushing three hundred bills darning Washington. Washington

508
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 3: from Georgia, just a monster. But I've seen him at

509
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 3: camp up front, going to the trope and it's just

510
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 3: like it's it's unbelievable and then a really really good defense.

511
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 3: I think with Aaron it's all about respect, and he

512
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 3: respects the hell out of Arthur and he respects the

513
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 3: hell out of Mike, and I think that's a big,

514
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 3: a big deal. The biggest thing, Johnny, where I close

515
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: that out is like he's going to have to change

516
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 3: the way he plays. Now, can he do that? You're

517
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 3: not going to be able to improvise and by time

518
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 3: you physically can't do that. Can you run the ball?

519
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 3: Can you not consistently check out of runs and and

520
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 3: and you know, do all these things to help you

521
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 3: stay healthy. I think he's tough as hell. Yeah, like

522
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 3: keep battle through injuries last year. But can you stay healthy?

523
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 3: We don't have a big example size to see if

524
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Speaker 3: you can.

525
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he exactly. I think you put it very very well. Now,

526
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Speaker 2: one of the names you mentioned is CJ.

527
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Speaker 3: Watt.

528
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Speaker 2: He is seeking a contract, same as Trey Hendrickson, sam

529
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Speaker 2: as Mika Parsons.

530
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Speaker 1: Who blinks first? Of those three?

531
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Speaker 2: How do you see this going from a contract reception

532
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Speaker 2: this offseason? Which one gets it first? Do any of

533
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Speaker 2: the three not get one this offseason?

534
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Speaker 3: I think they all do. I keep a nine to

535
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Speaker 3: eight and huncheson two. But I think he. I think

536
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 3: that the Lions are a proactive organization. Talk about a

537
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 3: well run organization. How early did they do amanra Saint Brown? Yeah,

538
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 3: veryly and not overpay for those guys and so by waiting,

539
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 3: what does Dallas have a tendency to do? Wait and

540
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 3: what is pay have a tendency to do.

541
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Speaker 1: Wait and pay and pay a lot.

542
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Speaker 3: The difference I think about actually Trey getting something done

543
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 3: is Trey's not looking to break forty million. Trey is

544
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 3: looking and tie this into the Texans. He's looking for

545
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 3: that like Max Crosby Daniel Hunter number like mid thirties.

546
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 3: If he can get it, and he is certainly worthy. Yeah,

547
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: I know that's just been unbelievable, and so I think

548
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 3: they're not that far apart in numbers in Cincinnati. I

549
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 3: think they're far apart in structure, and I think that's

550
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 3: going to be the thing that holds us up. He

551
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 3: wants some more security, and rightfully so, after doing two

552
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 3: one year deals, essentially doing a one year deal after

553
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: this last one and then you know, them telling him

554
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 3: they'll secure you and then they don't. I do think

555
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 3: that that probably is the most probably has the most

556
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: bad blood of the three negotiations going on. But I

557
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 3: think obviously you're not trying to reset the market, so

558
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 3: it has a decent thing to get to have happened.

559
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Speaker 3: I've recently heard that I think TJ can get over

560
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 3: forty and I don't think people were thinking that was

561
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 3: going to be the case. But if you look at

562
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 3: him in Miles same draft class, the numbers are almost

563
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 3: identical in sacks, tackle for loss, pressures, hell like in

564
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 3: terms of defensive Player of the Year voting, it's almost identical.

565
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 3: Like he has every right to demand that. Now he's

566
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 3: had a couple injuries of late, and I think Pittsburgh

567
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 3: will use that against him. But in that situation, both

568
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 3: sides want him to be a Steeler for life. He

569
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Speaker 3: wants to, Pittsburgh wants to and you're all in with

570
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers for one year, you have to get it done.

571
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Speaker 3: And then with Micah this is such a unique player.

572
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: He's the one everybody's waiting for. If I'm smart and

573
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Speaker 3: I'm TJ. Watt, I'm waiting for Mike's deal to get

574
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Speaker 3: done because if it's forty three a year, forty four

575
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Speaker 3: a year, and I get forty two instead of forty,

576
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Speaker 3: can I get whatever? And you know, so, I think

577
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Speaker 3: those are all tied to Mike's deal. Some think it

578
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 3: can get done. I think it's going to take a minute.

579
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Speaker 3: I mean, Jerry still needs to learn who David Mulliget is.

580
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 4: Apparently, like David does the best contracts of football for players,

581
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 4: wait till wait till he wait till Nick has to

582
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 4: deal with him for CJ.

583
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,479
Speaker 3: And we'll see how that goes. Well.

584
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Speaker 1: At least Nick knows who he is.

585
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: I know Nick, I will say this, Nick, I guarantee

586
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 3: he knows who he is. And so yeah, but I

587
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 3: think Detroit, I just wanted to throw that in there,

588
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 3: is going to probably try to want to get Aiden done.

589
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 3: But if Aiden's smart, I would wait for Mike to

590
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: get done because I still haven't more time to wait.

591
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt, he definitely has time. Obviously. The

592
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: Texans are one of those that get out in front

593
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: of things.

594
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 2: Danil extended, more Sting extended, Petrie extended. They got out

595
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: in front of those and now we just wait, like

596
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: you said, for number seven, next winter, next spring, whenever

597
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: that happens.

598
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 3: What's the what's the good man?

599
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Speaker 1: He's looked good.

600
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: The one day he came back, everybody was like, oh,

601
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: we can breathe again. And then you just see him

602
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: throwing the ball to the guys we talked about Higgins, Noel.

603
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: Just seeing him throw the ball to Higgins was like, man, yeah,

604
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: all right, here we go.

605
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we were I'm excited with him to be

606
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 2: excited about that.

607
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 3: I'm excited with him and Nick. I really am. I

608
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: just think of where Nick's and kind of how he's wired.

609
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 3: I think favors actually what CJ is looking for. Some

610
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: command at the line of scrimmage, from freedom at line

611
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 3: of scrimmag or high stake gave him that more than

612
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: probably people think right, and they were able to change

613
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 3: in adapt week to week more than college teams can.

614
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 3: And that was because of the way CJ mentally gets

615
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: the game. And I think him and Nick I think

616
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 3: that that's a good that's a really good match for him.

617
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 3: I think to grow as a quarterback, like you don't

618
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 3: want to stay stagnant with what you're good at and

619
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: what you're doing. I think this adds a layer to

620
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 3: his game that's really important.

621
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Speaker 1: I agree, and then added Nick Chubb. We'll see what

622
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 1: he's got.

623
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Speaker 2: That's gonna be an interesting addition to see during training

624
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: camp in preseason. It's gonna be awesome. James Palmer, you

625
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: are the best man. I say this to you every

626
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: time I talk to you. The best. I love to

627
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: I'd love chopping it up off man. You're the best.

628
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: James Palmer, Thank you brother.

629
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Speaker 3: See at the Green Brother.

630
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, We're gonna see James Palmer at the Green bro.

631
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: That's gonna be fun as we're up there for about

632
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: a week before we go play the first preseason game

633
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: against Minnesota. Now, I did an interview with James before

634
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: the trade that took place today, which pretty much signifies

635
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: all in for the Pittsburgh Steelers. We'll get into that

636
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: a little bit later in the show. As the Steelers

637
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: make a move and when it was first reported it

638
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: was one player, and then all of a sudden, I

639
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: saw it a few minutes later.

640
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a second, am I getting it? Was

641
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: Tom Pellisarrow.

642
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: I thought I was getting you know, I was getting

643
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: ad non Chefters, you know, I just looked weird.

644
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: I was like, wait a second, is this right.

645
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 2: We'll get into that a little bit later with the

646
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: Dolphins and the Steelers making a big blockbuster trade today

647
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: which could have significant impact I think on both sides,

648
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: but definitely for the Steelers as they continue to push

649
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: the chips all in. James Palmer absolutely one of the best.

650
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Speaker 2: Can't wait to see him at the Greenbrier. Now, as

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Speaker 2: I said earlier, one of the earliest free agent signings

652
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Speaker 2: for the Texans was a guard first rounder many years ago.

653
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Speaker 2: He's been around the league, He's seen some things. There's

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Speaker 2: some rings around the tree, if you will, for Lake

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Speaker 2: and Thomason. Mark and I caught up with him one

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Speaker 2: on one during media days while.

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Speaker 1: That for you.

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Speaker 2: Next right here in Texans All Access, what's happened everybody,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to this Monday at issue of Texans All

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Speaker 2: Access from the London Texans Radio Studio. I am John Harris,

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Speaker 2: Football Analyst, Sideline Report.

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Speaker 1: I say, Hunda Texas Radio Studio. It's the mobile version.

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Speaker 2: As your boy is out on the road, gonna be

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Speaker 2: out on the road the next couple of days, but

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have shows for you the next couple of nights. Salacopaccio,

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bill, Silent Reporter are gonna join me. Damian Pierce,

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Speaker 2: Luke Lasche, Frank Frangie Jacksonvil Jaguars play by play man

668
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Speaker 2: had a chance catch up with Mark, as did the

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Speaker 2: new Tennessee Titans man. Haven't been able to say that

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Speaker 2: because Mike Keyth has been at Tennessee Titans play by

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Speaker 2: playman from the beginning. Taylor's Zarzor has taken over. He's

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Speaker 2: done a lot of stuff in the South. You've heard

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Speaker 2: him do college games on ESPN. He will take over

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Speaker 2: as a new voice to the Tennessee Titans. And then

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Speaker 2: what he Mark's is gonna join us. So that's what

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Speaker 2: we've got for the next couple of days. Then Mark

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Speaker 2: will be back on Thursday. We'll have the General with

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Speaker 2: us on Thursday, and then we'll have a July fourth

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Speaker 2: show for you on Friday, coming to you from the

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Speaker 2: Day Texans Radio Studios. Mark and I will both be

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Speaker 2: back on that day. So allot to look forward to

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Speaker 2: over the next few days. Shows Socabacho, Damian Pierce, Luke Luche,

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Speaker 2: Frank Frangie Taylor's oars or Wood, He Marks, John McClain,

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Speaker 2: Me and Mark Man.

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Speaker 1: It's a nice loaded few days.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of people have been taking vacation, but

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Speaker 2: you can caught up on the Odyssey app and we

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Speaker 2: hope that you do just that. Now, a guy that

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Speaker 2: joined the Texans this offseason. He has some history with

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Speaker 2: t Miko Ryans when Demiko is with the San Francisco

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers. In fact, that was Lake and Tomlinson's

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Speaker 2: All Pro Bowl year in twenty twenty one. He's been

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Speaker 2: good and solid since with both the forty nine ers

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Speaker 2: and also Seattle Seahawks. But he comes to the Texans

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Speaker 2: a grizzled vet, if you will. Is that the right

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Speaker 2: way is saying it is a little vet. But when

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Speaker 2: he sat down, we had never met him before. And

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Speaker 2: when he walked out of there, like the market said,

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Speaker 2: I get it. I understand completely why Lake and Tomlinson

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Speaker 2: is a taxi. Take listen, you'll hear exactly why.

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Speaker 5: Lake and Tomlinson joining us in the hun Day Texans

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Speaker 5: radio studio his first visit here, and this will be

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Speaker 5: the most pleasurable team media experience you've ever had.

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Speaker 6: So we really appreciate you being with us.

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Speaker 7: Thank against appreciate you having me here today. Man, it's

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Speaker 7: awesome to be here.

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Speaker 6: All right. So what's it like so far for you

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Speaker 6: being in this organization? Man, it's been great.

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Speaker 7: Everybody being so welcoming, just working with the guy, especially

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Speaker 7: the offensive line room. It's been awesome so far.

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Speaker 2: Fortia's Okay, I'm sure you've probably heard this, but uh,

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Speaker 2: spring training or training camp, it gets a little hot.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Money, I mean okay, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 7: But some guys have warned me about the heat, especially

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Speaker 7: like the in the training staff and everyone in there.

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Speaker 7: I'm just kind of warning us about it getting hot. So,

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Speaker 7: uh no, it's gonna get hot, just training captain, but

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Speaker 7: I'm ready for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, in Jamaica it's hot and humid. Also last I checked, right, Yeah,

723
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Speaker 5: but you get a little bit of the island breeze though, so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not true.

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Speaker 1: That makes a huge difference, it really does.

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Speaker 2: The breeze helps might be ninety, but you get a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a breeze like that that can definitely

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Speaker 2: get you through third down and seven in practice, late

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Speaker 2: in practice.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, we're gonna see how it goes in trading camp.

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Speaker 6: So like, and this is your eleven, you're eleven, yes, yes.

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Speaker 1: So I'll ask a very simple question, why Houston?

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Speaker 3: Why Houston?

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Speaker 7: I mean, uh, I mean, if you just look a

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Speaker 7: lot of connections here obviously with Demiko, Yeah, a lot

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Speaker 7: of old teammates I used to play with are also here.

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Speaker 6: Z's Jimmy.

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Speaker 7: Just a ton of the connections here, man, and I

739
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Speaker 7: honestly that's made it like the transition is so much smoother,

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Speaker 7: especially at this point.

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Speaker 3: In my career.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's very important to have that so when

743
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Speaker 7: I can. When I get here, I just get to work,

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Speaker 7: you know, I have to really worry about Obviously, I

745
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Speaker 7: gotta learn new teammates, learn how to work with new teammates.

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Speaker 7: But just being here for ot AS, I mean, that's

747
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Speaker 7: why I'm here for OTAs. I'm getting to learn to

748
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Speaker 7: work with the guys and you know, just showing them

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Speaker 7: how you know, what I'm.

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Speaker 6: About as an old live and what do you get

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Speaker 6: out of OTAs?

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Speaker 5: You got to know where to be obviously Nick Caley

753
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 5: system for sure, and discuss that a little bit if

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Speaker 5: you could like it, about how this is different or

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Speaker 5: similar from other systems you've run for sure.

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Speaker 7: Obviously you know, coming here working with Nick, it's new

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Speaker 7: for everybody. Obviously new offense and working here with Nick,

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Speaker 7: with the guys in the offensive line room, is this

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00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 7: period right now is very important because this is where

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Speaker 7: we start our chemistry. You know, it's very important for

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Speaker 7: me to be here because I want the guys to

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Speaker 7: be able to see how I work and I kind

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Speaker 7: of learn how to work with me so I can

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Speaker 7: learn how to work with them, you know, especially that

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Speaker 7: I mean that's live or die offensive line. You know,

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Speaker 7: when you have those five guys out there, they got

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Speaker 7: to be able to operate as a unit. So the

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Speaker 7: more exposure you have around the guys, it's just a

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Speaker 7: better for their offensive line and better for the team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned the guys that you know, these guys

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Speaker 2: that you had played with in San Francisco, Demico and

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Speaker 2: San Francisco. How much did you before you made your decision?

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Speaker 2: How much did you contact them and say, hey, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about Houston. What can you tell me about

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00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: what the buildings like? Did you do any of that?

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Speaker 2: Just know having known those guys that was enough for you.

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Speaker 7: That was enough for me, honestly, just kind of they

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00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 7: know me, I know them. That was more than enough

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Speaker 7: for me. Nothing need to be said, you know, especially

780
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Speaker 7: talking to do Migo coming here is like, hey, I

781
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 7: know you're about come to work. I'm like, come on,

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00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 7: you know me, so I'm here to work. So I

783
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 7: was super excited when they came calling, and man, just

784
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Speaker 7: having that connection was more enough for me.

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Speaker 5: What's the key to sticking around as long as you've

786
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 5: had the career, the health that you have to maintain,

787
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Speaker 5: taking care of your body, all that stuff.

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Speaker 7: I would say that's pretty much. You know, especially at

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Speaker 7: this point of my career, staying healthy is extremely important.

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Speaker 7: And you know, but I've been extremely fortunate, you know,

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Speaker 7: throughout my career, I've kind of maintaining my health, you know,

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00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 7: playing on an even x amount of seasons, uh, you

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Speaker 7: know in a row, you know, just trying to keep

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00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 7: my body in and out of games. You know, it

795
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 7: comes to your routine. And when it comes to routine,

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Speaker 7: I'm like kind of like like a master of my

797
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 7: own routine, you know. So, but I've also I've been

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Speaker 7: extremely lucky, extremely blessed to being able to go out

799
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Speaker 7: there and just support my team week in and week out.

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Speaker 2: Like you hit on this chemistry amongst the five guys

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Speaker 2: up front. We kind of know from outsiders looking in

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00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: what we think it's supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: But why is that so important to an offensive line?

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Speaker 7: I mean extremely important? I mean I believe, you know,

805
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 7: the offensive line could be like the strength of a team.

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00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 7: You know, those guys are the come out the grinders man,

807
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 7: come out and grind. They want to be the backbone,

808
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 7: the foundation of the team, the lineman for the team.

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00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 7: So when you can have that for a team you

810
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 7: can go very far, man. So and I've seen in

811
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Speaker 7: the past've been a part of it, and you know,

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Speaker 7: I'm excited to be able to exercise out here.

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00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 5: I mean you see you cam ingram others, you see

814
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 5: ursery getting drafted. So it's a brand new room, but

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Speaker 5: you have some guys who have been here at the

816
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 5: same time, right, So how.

817
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Speaker 6: Do the leaders emerge? Take us inside the room? How

818
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 6: do the dynamics play out there? Does there have to

819
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 6: be one guy who's the governor of it all? Or no? No,

820
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 6: not at all.

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Speaker 7: Like everyone's here working hard. I mean since I've signed,

822
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 7: I've seen guys been here working this entire time. And

823
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 7: there's a credit to those guys in the room. Obviously

824
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 7: the guys were brought in coming and seeing those guys

825
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 7: working hard in OTA's off season training, you know, kind

826
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 7: of sets the standard. But you know, also the new

827
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 7: guys coming in actually being here, you know, nine year guys,

828
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 7: eleven year guys like myself coming in and working it

829
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 7: sets the standard for the room. So and that's one

830
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 7: thing this OTA is. I was man, super happy with

831
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 7: everyone in there working hard, man, And it's like a

832
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 7: really really good start for what we got going on.

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Speaker 2: Like, how important is it for you now being eleven

834
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: year vet thinking back to when you were a rookie

835
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: the players in your room that poured into you, that

836
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 2: were veterans.

837
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: Maybe you maybe you didn't have that, But how important

838
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Speaker 1: is it.

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Speaker 2: For you to do that for the young guys that

840
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: walk into the room, into the offensive line room to

841
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: kind of pour into those young dudes. So you're basically

842
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 2: paying it forward to them so that when they become

843
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 2: eleven year vets they can say, well, hey, Lake and

844
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 2: taught me this.

845
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Speaker 1: How important is that for you?

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Speaker 7: No, for sure, it's extremely important. I mean when I

847
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 7: was a rookie, you know, when I got drafted by Detroit,

848
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 7: I had guys, you know, like Kevin Johnson, a guy

849
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 7: in my offensive line where many Ramirez came in. Those

850
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 7: guys they took me under their wing, and week in

851
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 7: and week out, I just kind of just stayed in

852
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 7: their hip pocket and did everything they did. And you know,

853
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 7: obviously I learned to what works for me and for

854
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 7: my body type, you know, like I can't do the

855
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 7: same thing as Megatron obviously, but you know I get

856
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 7: to learn about my body from from those guys. What

857
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 7: they did because you know, coming to in the league,

858
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 7: you don't know what you know, sure, you know, so

859
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 7: having those guys was extremely important for, you know, my

860
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 7: foundation of my career and being here, especially working with

861
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 7: the young guys and the rookies here. I feel like

862
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 7: it's important for them too. And we have a really

863
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 7: good group of rookies. And then they listen and they

864
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 7: come on their work as well. They came in see

865
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Speaker 7: how we were working for rotas and man, I'm super

866
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 7: excited about them too.

867
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 5: Okay, so what's your favorite blocking scheme? Do you like

868
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 5: going outside zone? Do you like just you know, let's

869
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 5: just hand run straight ahead?

870
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: You like.

871
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 2: It all?

872
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I do it all.

873
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 7: But I mean I've done the outside zone. I've done

874
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 7: the gap double teams, I've done the pull trap, you know,

875
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 7: past protecting. I've been in heavy pass system. I mean

876
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 7: I'll do it all. I mean obviously as offensive lineman,

877
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 7: you know, you want to be able to do everything

878
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 7: and stay out there for you know, for the entire game.

879
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 7: But you know, I I I just I really just

880
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 7: want to kick the living at us.

881
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 6: Somebody like that.

882
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: We like that?

883
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 6: Like what what I got?

884
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 3: Want?

885
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 5: More impressions of Houston, Houston food. I know you haven't

886
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 5: been here that long, but what do you think of

887
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 5: h town?

888
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 7: So far, so good. It's been amazing just learning about

889
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 7: the area. I have family here too that lives in Katie,

890
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 7: So just learning about the area, you know, what's around

891
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 7: the stadium. It's been really cool just to learn just

892
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 7: the local cuisines. And they have a ton of stuff

893
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 7: here too. And they have some good Jamaica restaurants here too.

894
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 7: So just saying how many of will let you eat?

895
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 3: Will let me eat?

896
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: I say, during season, I don't know.

897
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 6: Do you make food? Do you make yes?

898
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 3: Yes, I do.

899
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 6: Chicken? Oh my god.

900
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 7: Me and my me and my wife, we we love

901
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 7: cooking and that that's something that you know that I'm

902
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 7: extremely proud about, just my heritage and uh my wife.

903
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 7: You know, we make uh Jamaican food for our kids.

904
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 7: I mean, I got the trigger man, I fired that

905
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 7: thing out. Chicken on and now come on now.

906
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 2: So off season, wife and kids. So once you get

907
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: to the off season, you're gonna take trips. Just get

908
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: get ready for the season. What you got planned for

909
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 2: the off season. Once we get through this.

910
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 7: Week, well, I have to take my kids to Jamaica.

911
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 6: You know.

912
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, so the my my wife and kids will be

913
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 7: here for the family barbecue we have the Thursday. Then

914
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 7: we're gonna take off the Jamaica. First time the kids

915
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 7: have been to Jamaica really, so I'm super excited about that.

916
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 3: Five and two.

917
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I'm super excited for for them to, you know,

918
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 7: just go there see where I grow up. Especially my daughter.

919
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 7: You know, she's really big into Mauana right now. Oh yeah,

920
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 7: just like you know, Moana is an island girl. You're

921
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 7: kind of an island girl too. So but I'm really

922
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 7: excited taking them. This is see Mike extended family and

923
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 7: just kind of be around, you know.

924
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 6: The era gets the Mowana experience and no jet lag.

925
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 6: See that's the benefit.

926
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 5: Absolutely, this has been an advertisement for your Jamaica Visitors Bureau. Okay, Lincoln,

927
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 5: thanks a lot for joining us.

928
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 6: Thank you, guys. I appreciate it so much.

929
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: Dude's awesome.

930
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 3: Man.

931
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 2: That was really a fun conversation we had with him,

932
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: especially when he broke into his Jamaican accent early an

933
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: interview to let us know what he represents, who he

934
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: represents h and how he goes about doing it. So

935
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: Laken Tomlinson. That was a blast. Now, I referred earlier

936
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: in the show to a blockbuster deal that has taken

937
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 2: place overnight early Monday, at some point before we're talking

938
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: right here, the Dolphins and the Steelers made a move.

939
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: And for one team, it feels like they just picked

940
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: up all their chips and just walked in the middle

941
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: of the table and just dropped them and said, this

942
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 2: is it right here, one year all in, let's go.

943
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh Steelers have made that case. We'll talk about

944
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: that deal what it means next right here in Texans

945
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Speaker 2: All Access.

946
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: Tevin, everybody, Welcome back to this final segment of a.

947
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: Monday edaytion of Texans All Access from the mobile version

948
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: of the hun Day Texans Radio studio. I am your host,

949
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 2: John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston Texans.

950
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: Today's news really.

951
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: Kind of all about the Pittsburgh Steelers going all in.

952
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: Now.

953
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: I'm on the West Coast, so when I woke up

954
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: this morning, I saw it, and I didn't. I wasn't

955
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 2: shocked by the news that Jalen Ramsey had been traded.

956
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 2: I was a little surprised it was the Pittsburgh Steelers

957
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 2: thought Okay, all right, that's that's shaping.

958
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 6: Up to be.

959
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: Boy, Ramsey's got anything left. This is shaping up to

960
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: be one hell of a defense to have to throw

961
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 2: against it. Already acquired Darius slagh They is still a

962
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: Joey Porter junior who.

963
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: Have never really been a big fan of. But yet

964
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: he's a young, growing corner and you know, go with it.

965
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: And now they've had Jalen Ramsey, man, they've got Making

966
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: Fitzpatrick already back there. Butt at defense could be good.

967
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: You get TJ. Watt Re signed and away we go.

968
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 2: Then I saw a tweet from Tom Pelisarro and I

969
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,959
Speaker 2: was like, wait a second, hold on, am I.

970
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: Reading this right? The trade ends up being.

971
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey, John hu Smith tight end had a really

972
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: good year with Miami, I think a couple of years ago,

973
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: did some good things against the Texans, and this past

974
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: game in a past matchup in twenty twenty four. So

975
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: it's those two John Ramsey, Jayalen Ramsey, John Hu Smith

976
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 2: going to Pittsburgh. So all I'm thinking John hu Smith

977
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: now is with Arthur Smith again. Oh okay, that I

978
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: kind of like the looks of that. Jalen Ramsey Okay, well,

979
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 2: what did Miami get returned? Well, this is the piece

980
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: that kind of had everybody going, wait a second.

981
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: There were like.

982
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: Memes and gifts, and you know, they were showing MIKEA.

983
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: Fitzpatrick and Jay and the Ramsy together. This is gonna be

984
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: Austin Pittsburgh.

985
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: Well, MIKEA. Fitzpatrick Pro Bowl, All Pro Safety. Going back

986
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: to Miami.

987
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: Now, back in twenty nineteen, when Minca was with the

988
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins, Apparently the initial deal offered on both sides,

989
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 2: or I guess maybe from the Texas side, was Laramie

990
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: Tunsell and make of Fitzpatrick.

991
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: For all that the Dolphins ended up getting in that.

992
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: Trade, which ended up being two first rounders, a second rounder,

993
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: some other land yap and a couple of Texans to

994
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: go with it, that really didn't amount to much. I

995
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: don't think the Dolphins said no to that, and they

996
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: kept getting changed around, change around, changed around. Eventually it

997
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: became Laramy Tunzell and Kenny Stills. For all that, they

998
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: were getting two first rounders, and so when Kenny was

999
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: gone basically late in the second year he was here,

1000
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: everybody was like, oh, Laramy got traded for two first rounders.

1001
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: But I was supposed to be Laramie and Menca.

1002
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: You give me Laramie and Menca for two first rounders,

1003
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: I probably would have been okay with it, but you

1004
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: only got really Laramie Tunzel out of that deal, and

1005
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: so that's how I got, you know, positive, that was

1006
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: the narrative for a long time. Well, Mica ends up

1007
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: eventually getting traded from Miami to Pittsburgh and ended up

1008
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: being a first rounder. So now MAKA gets flipped back

1009
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 2: from Pittsburgh to Miami. They lost Jevon Holland, so then

1010
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: they pick up MIKEA. Fitzpatrick. But Miami is paying essentially

1011
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey's seven million bucks to just go away. And

1012
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: then the Steelers are also again John us Smith. So

1013
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: it's a defense that is now adding Jalen Ramsey. See

1014
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: how it fits. He announced that news on his Twitter

1015
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: at timeline today that he's going to Pittsburgh John new

1016
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: Smith going with him now. One other things that Adam

1017
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: Schefter reported on a little bit later in the day

1018
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: was that multiple teams have been discussing whether they can

1019
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: trade for Steelers. Standout TJ Watt, who skipped the team's

1020
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: most you sent mini camp, and I asked that question

1021
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: to James, who do I think gets signed first? Schefter continued,

1022
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: Pittsford hasn't shown any willingness to deal Wat so far,

1023
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: but he's unhappy with this contractual situation, and sources believe

1024
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: outside team interest is likely to increase given today's trade.

1025
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: That trade that I just mentioned, So TJ Watt could

1026
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: he be on the trade block? Could a team like

1027
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 2: the Lions?

1028
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 6: Oh?

1029
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: God, a lot going to the Lions. Boy, there's a

1030
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: lot there. So as I asked James, who do I think?

1031
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: Who do you think gets that deal done first? You know,

1032
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: as you kind of talked through it, and as he

1033
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: was talking, I kind of felt like, man, I know

1034
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: this Steeler's got to get TJ done now? Right, Well,

1035
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: they're going all in, don't They kind of have to

1036
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 2: get that deal done now. If they're going on, we're

1037
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: going all in. But you're gonna let the best one

1038
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 2: of the best pass rushers in the league walk or

1039
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: you're gonna trade him. I know it's money.

1040
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: I get all that.

1041
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: I mean, it's gonna be a lot of money, but

1042
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 2: you're gonna really, you can't go all in with Jalen

1043
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: Ramsey john Smith and get rid of Minka and bring

1044
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: in Rogers and mech Half and really kind of reshape

1045
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: the team if you will, and then not sign your

1046
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: best player, one of the top five to ten players

1047
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: in the league.

1048
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: You can't. That just makes no sense.

1049
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: So I'm not surprised that teams have been calling and

1050
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: asking and offering, But I got a feeling that TJ.

1051
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 2: Watt's gonna stay a Steeler. It's just a matter of now.

1052
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 2: This might push the Steelers to get this deal done

1053
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: so they can quit hearing from teams and they can

1054
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: have their all in squad ready to go for training camp.

1055
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: All right, it was a great show. Appreciate James Palmer

1056
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: from being by Lake and Thomlinson was great. Tomorrow, Like

1057
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: we said, Sacopaccio, Damian Peers, Luke Lache all coming at

1058
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: you on Texans All Access.

1059
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 1: We'll see that everybody. Have a great night, and as always,

1060
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: go Texans.