WEBVTT - Raheem Kassam - Can Great Britain be Great Again 0:00:11.657 --> 0:00:14.937 You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 0:00:14.937 --> 0:00:17.977 you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 0:00:17.977 --> 0:00:21.377 wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, Welcome to another 0:00:21.417 --> 0:00:26.417 episode of The Buck Sexton Show with me now, the indefatigable, 0:00:27.137 --> 0:00:31.977 the formidable, the one and only Raheim Kassam. He is 0:00:32.017 --> 0:00:34.377 the editor in chief of the National Pulse and the 0:00:34.377 --> 0:00:37.897 host of Raheim Kassam Podcast, a man whose knowledge and 0:00:37.937 --> 0:00:41.737 talents spans from global affairs all the way down to 0:00:41.817 --> 0:00:46.097 the proper way to tie a windsor not. Mister Raheem Kassam, 0:00:46.217 --> 0:00:50.177 good to have you answer. What an introduction, and not 0:00:50.337 --> 0:00:55.137 least because you know, from a very arcane perspective, indefatigable 0:00:55.377 --> 0:00:59.777 is how the British parliamentarian George Galloway of the far 0:00:59.977 --> 0:01:05.697 left once described Saddam Hussein. So I'm delighted. I think 0:01:05.697 --> 0:01:09.017 the word existed and was used in many other contexts 0:01:09.017 --> 0:01:11.857 for a long time, like isn't there like an hms 0:01:11.937 --> 0:01:14.977 indefatigable or maybe it's a long once or maybe that's 0:01:14.977 --> 0:01:17.497 a bit probably too long to to paint on the 0:01:17.537 --> 0:01:21.137 side of of a boat of a battleship. But raheem. 0:01:21.217 --> 0:01:23.697 You know, we've been doing these conversations and the audience 0:01:23.697 --> 0:01:26.777 response has been great because we're just getting really interesting 0:01:26.777 --> 0:01:29.497 people on to talk about whatever is top of mind. 0:01:29.657 --> 0:01:31.937 So one way I I like to start is just 0:01:31.977 --> 0:01:35.377 to get you to tell me right now what in 0:01:35.417 --> 0:01:37.737 the world of politics. We're going to cover a whole 0:01:37.777 --> 0:01:39.337 range of things here. One of the world of politics 0:01:39.377 --> 0:01:42.177 gets you the most fired up, like what are you 0:01:42.257 --> 0:01:48.777 focused on? I don't know about focus. M That's a 0:01:48.817 --> 0:01:51.657 word that escapes me. I'm kind of a scatter brain 0:01:51.897 --> 0:01:56.857 in politics. It's like books as well. I'm reading fifty 0:01:56.897 --> 0:01:59.457 at a time and I never finished any of them. 0:01:59.497 --> 0:02:02.337 But something that has occurred to me, you know, there 0:02:02.377 --> 0:02:04.377 are several things that have occurred to me a lot recently, 0:02:04.537 --> 0:02:08.177 especially in you know, with the Biden classified documents thing 0:02:08.697 --> 0:02:12.977 going on in the background, is that is that like 0:02:13.257 --> 0:02:17.217 I still can't put my finger on who got Biden elected, right, 0:02:17.257 --> 0:02:19.577 and that and that bothers me as a as a 0:02:19.577 --> 0:02:22.377 as a point, like when you look at Trump, people 0:02:22.417 --> 0:02:25.977 say Bannon. You look at Obama, people say Jim Messner 0:02:26.097 --> 0:02:30.257 and David Plath and David Axel, Rod Bush, Karl Rove. 0:02:30.497 --> 0:02:33.697 But there isn't one in Biden world, and I that 0:02:33.737 --> 0:02:36.577 bothers me because of you know, so many different things, 0:02:36.577 --> 0:02:39.497 so many different big question marks that were over the 0:02:39.577 --> 0:02:42.257 twenty twenty election in general. But for there not to 0:02:42.297 --> 0:02:45.177 be somebody out there doing ted talks and being on 0:02:45.217 --> 0:02:48.657 the front cover of Time magazine being called the you know, 0:02:48.937 --> 0:02:52.177 the man who got the most votes for a presidential 0:02:52.217 --> 0:02:56.497 candidate in American history is a pretty big thing that 0:02:56.537 --> 0:02:59.777 you want to claim and and you know, a big, 0:02:59.817 --> 0:03:02.017 big medallion that you want to wear around your neck, 0:03:02.577 --> 0:03:04.977 but nobody seems to want to claim it, and that 0:03:05.017 --> 0:03:08.537 bothers me. Yeah, well, there's certainly something going on right 0:03:08.577 --> 0:03:11.017 now with his if a staff is on the way 0:03:11.057 --> 0:03:13.377 out there. There have just been the news reports about 0:03:13.417 --> 0:03:16.697 that that you're not gonna have ron Klain anymore because 0:03:16.697 --> 0:03:20.137 people have been It's really, i think, in an addendum 0:03:20.177 --> 0:03:23.617 in many ways to your to your point here, which 0:03:23.697 --> 0:03:26.737 is not only who's respect who's responsible for getting him elected, 0:03:27.177 --> 0:03:31.377 but who is the person who's really calling the shots, 0:03:31.377 --> 0:03:33.777 who's really running things, you know, behind the scenes. A 0:03:33.777 --> 0:03:35.657 lot of people, it said ron Klain, the White House 0:03:35.697 --> 0:03:38.857 Chief of Staff now White House Chief of Staff, depending 0:03:38.897 --> 0:03:40.297 on who it is I think can matter a lot 0:03:40.417 --> 0:03:43.097 or a little for an administration. Uh does any even 0:03:43.137 --> 0:03:46.257 really remember the Trump White House chiefs of staff? I 0:03:46.417 --> 0:03:48.657 don't think that, you know, No one said, oh my gosh, 0:03:48.737 --> 0:03:52.497 the days of Ryan's previous and uh and the you 0:03:52.537 --> 0:03:55.017 know the guy with the Irish name, who was you 0:03:55.057 --> 0:04:00.337 know omb yeah, omb budget guy before that. Um, But 0:04:00.577 --> 0:04:02.417 so you have Clain on the way out and this 0:04:02.497 --> 0:04:04.897 guy's zigns, I'm not sure how to say his name 0:04:04.977 --> 0:04:08.337 even who was the COVID czar that we never heard about? Really, 0:04:08.937 --> 0:04:11.577 he's going to be taking over, So who actually calls 0:04:11.577 --> 0:04:13.737 the sharks for Biden? As he's leaving all the classified 0:04:13.777 --> 0:04:16.697 all of the place and looking like he's constantly confused 0:04:17.617 --> 0:04:20.737 Barack Obama and Susan Rice. I mean that that's kind 0:04:20.737 --> 0:04:24.777 of one of the least well kept secrets here in Washington, DC, 0:04:25.537 --> 0:04:28.457 is that most of most of what this regime is 0:04:28.457 --> 0:04:35.377 currently doing comes from his previous boss that I think 0:04:35.457 --> 0:04:37.057 you know. And Susan Rice was one of the names 0:04:37.057 --> 0:04:38.817 that was floated. Now they're saying it's going to be 0:04:38.897 --> 0:04:42.337 Jeff Zience. Jeff Ziens, by the way, an important character 0:04:42.417 --> 0:04:45.297 to note, not just because of his his you know, 0:04:45.337 --> 0:04:50.417 World Economic Forum billionaire credentials, but also because of as 0:04:50.457 --> 0:04:54.417 you say this, this covidsar who was a COVID ZAR, 0:04:54.577 --> 0:04:58.337 but really quietly, and you have to understand this point 0:04:58.337 --> 0:05:02.377 in time, in twenty twenty three, the United States is 0:05:02.417 --> 0:05:05.417 still one of the only countries in the world that 0:05:05.577 --> 0:05:09.537 doesn't allow non citizens in if they're not vaccinated. So 0:05:09.737 --> 0:05:13.657 Zion is still doing the bidding of big COVID behind 0:05:13.697 --> 0:05:17.097 the scenes, very quietly. And the fact that he's being 0:05:17.097 --> 0:05:20.817 elevated now to this this prestige position in American politics 0:05:20.937 --> 0:05:22.937 is honestly, it's like a It's like a path on 0:05:22.977 --> 0:05:24.977 the back and a thank you for continuing to do 0:05:25.017 --> 0:05:28.057 that on behalf of you know, big farmer, big government, 0:05:28.177 --> 0:05:29.937 whatever you want to, you know, whatever you want to, 0:05:30.297 --> 0:05:35.577 you know, daub the apparat human time, interrrational, reasonable world, 0:05:35.577 --> 0:05:37.937 where heim shouldn't the guy who was the Covids are 0:05:38.377 --> 0:05:41.257 who said that a winter of death was coming for 0:05:41.297 --> 0:05:44.297 anybody who didn't get vaccinated. That's a quote that you 0:05:44.337 --> 0:05:46.817 were going to overrun the hospitals if you didn't get vaccinated. 0:05:46.897 --> 0:05:50.017 These were things that he was saying in twenty twenty one, 0:05:50.457 --> 0:05:52.777 going into the winter period. You would think that he 0:05:52.777 --> 0:05:56.017 should not only be fired, but honestly shamed and and 0:05:56.017 --> 0:06:01.057 and removed ignominiously from the public square. And yet he's 0:06:01.097 --> 0:06:03.177 now White House Chef of staff. It's a promotion which 0:06:03.177 --> 0:06:06.337 I think says a lot about how the Democrat apparatus 0:06:06.857 --> 0:06:12.377 views COVID, even at this stage. Yeah, but I'll go 0:06:12.457 --> 0:06:15.417 you one further. I mean, you know, again, as I say, 0:06:15.457 --> 0:06:16.977 this is a this is a slap on the back 0:06:17.017 --> 0:06:20.577 for and well done, old boy for for doing that. 0:06:20.657 --> 0:06:24.337 But is it's worse than that? Right in any rational world? 0:06:24.377 --> 0:06:27.217 You said in any rational world, Well, in any rational world, 0:06:27.577 --> 0:06:31.257 the the person who put together the original COVID task 0:06:31.337 --> 0:06:35.337 force should be susceptible to class action lawsuits from all 0:06:35.377 --> 0:06:37.577 the people who lost their businesses, all the people who 0:06:37.577 --> 0:06:39.857 lost their loved ones as a result of all of that. 0:06:39.897 --> 0:06:42.457 And that person was Mike Pence. So you know, there's 0:06:42.537 --> 0:06:46.057 blame to go around on all sides on this, especially 0:06:46.057 --> 0:06:49.657 for those who got the ball rolling at that, you know, 0:06:49.737 --> 0:06:52.777 the opening days of COVID. Let me ask and Jeff Zience. 0:06:53.217 --> 0:06:55.737 Just just to conclude on the Jeff Zions point, you know, 0:06:55.817 --> 0:07:00.697 this for him is very much an opportunity to take 0:07:00.857 --> 0:07:06.377 that kind of totalitarian mindset and run the Oval Office 0:07:06.417 --> 0:07:09.217 with it. Yeah. No, absolutely. I mean it's it's like 0:07:09.337 --> 0:07:12.697 they got there their trial run of communism and now 0:07:12.737 --> 0:07:15.897 they're saying, oh, you're ready for the big leagues of 0:07:16.617 --> 0:07:20.097 being a commie at the highest level. Yeah, Raheem. 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Even the stylus 0:08:48.857 --> 0:08:50.657 Raheem Kassam is going to be a fan when I 0:08:50.697 --> 0:08:53.057 get him some now, my friend on the Trump on 0:08:53.097 --> 0:08:58.097 the Trump issue, do you think that Trump is running 0:08:58.097 --> 0:09:02.737 into a real problem here with his base, with his people, 0:09:02.857 --> 0:09:07.937 his voters, with the continued discussion of how great Operation 0:09:08.017 --> 0:09:10.857 Warp Speed is. I mean, I heard him recently say 0:09:10.897 --> 0:09:14.297 that the vaccine saved hundreds of millions of lives. I 0:09:14.377 --> 0:09:16.857 have been a huge Trump supporter. I like the guy 0:09:16.977 --> 0:09:19.457 very much personally. I think he did phenomenal things for 0:09:19.457 --> 0:09:22.857 our country as president. The vaccine did not save hundreds 0:09:22.857 --> 0:09:25.177 of millions of lives. So how do we deal with this? 0:09:25.337 --> 0:09:30.217 What's going on? Yeah? So typically there has been one 0:09:30.417 --> 0:09:33.937 critical area where you know, even Trump, even the most 0:09:34.177 --> 0:09:37.257 ardent Trump supporters, will say, Okay, he has a he 0:09:37.297 --> 0:09:39.657 has a blind spot on that. But given that it's 0:09:39.737 --> 0:09:42.497 you know, his only massive blind spot, we're willing to 0:09:42.497 --> 0:09:45.457 to not overlook it, but at least at least forgive 0:09:45.457 --> 0:09:48.177 elements of it. And that was personnel, right, The personnel 0:09:48.257 --> 0:09:51.697 choices that both the Trump administration made and the Trumper 0:09:51.777 --> 0:09:55.777 operation as it has been since after its presidency, remain 0:09:56.497 --> 0:10:00.057 curious to a lot of people. And again, most people 0:10:00.137 --> 0:10:02.577 understand that when they when they choose somebody, when they 0:10:02.657 --> 0:10:04.897 go to bat for somebody, when they put their eggs 0:10:04.937 --> 0:10:08.257 in the basket of a presidential candidate, that they're not 0:10:08.817 --> 0:10:11.497 looking for perfection. They're willing to say, you know, no 0:10:11.577 --> 0:10:14.297 man is perfect, no woman is perfect. No candidate will 0:10:14.337 --> 0:10:18.137 therefore be perfect. But in doing what he's been doing 0:10:18.177 --> 0:10:20.537 over the last you know a couple of years now, 0:10:20.577 --> 0:10:24.617 as it regards the big farmer vacciness, he's opening up 0:10:24.657 --> 0:10:29.057 an unnecessary second weak spot as far as his base 0:10:29.177 --> 0:10:32.297 is concerned, and there are major complaints about it now. 0:10:33.017 --> 0:10:35.697 I do think, however, that a lot of people are 0:10:35.857 --> 0:10:39.937 overestimating what that if impact is, and I think especially 0:10:40.017 --> 0:10:42.217 a lot of people who want other candidates to be 0:10:42.257 --> 0:10:46.457 the president Republican president next time around, are certainly overestimating 0:10:46.497 --> 0:10:48.497 the impact of that. But you're right to say that 0:10:48.537 --> 0:10:51.057 I don't think it's doing Trump any good at all, 0:10:51.097 --> 0:10:53.617 and it is in fact putting off some of his supporters. 0:10:53.977 --> 0:10:57.377 The important part of this actually is what Ron De 0:10:57.457 --> 0:11:01.257 Santis himself did. Since I alluded to it, I'll say it, 0:11:01.857 --> 0:11:04.177 which is a course correction. And there's no reason that 0:11:04.217 --> 0:11:06.977 Donald Trump can't make a course correction on this as well. 0:11:07.217 --> 0:11:10.937 Early days of of COVID, the governor of Florida was 0:11:10.977 --> 0:11:12.697 doing very similar things to a lot of the other 0:11:12.777 --> 0:11:15.897 the governors. But but you know, the end of the 0:11:15.977 --> 0:11:19.017 thirty days to slow the spread, as a lot of 0:11:19.057 --> 0:11:20.897 the rest of us did. And I hold my hand 0:11:20.937 --> 0:11:24.817 up and say myself included here we course corrected, right. 0:11:24.897 --> 0:11:27.177 We realized what this thing was being used for. We 0:11:27.297 --> 0:11:30.737 realized that, you know, European countries may want to do this, 0:11:30.937 --> 0:11:33.537 the Chinese may certainly want to do this, but frankly, 0:11:33.537 --> 0:11:37.137 it's not the American way. And you know, RDS to 0:11:37.177 --> 0:11:44.177 his credit course corrected. People with any level of I 0:11:44.257 --> 0:11:48.057 might vote Trump next time around, will still forgive him 0:11:48.137 --> 0:11:50.417 if he course corrects on this, and he's going to 0:11:50.497 --> 0:11:52.857 have to. We all know he's going to We all 0:11:52.897 --> 0:11:55.057 know he's going to turn around at some point and say, look, 0:11:55.417 --> 0:11:57.337 I did what I was told was that it was 0:11:57.377 --> 0:11:59.937 in the interest of the public. It was the time 0:12:00.017 --> 0:12:03.177 when my administration came together the best. We delivered the 0:12:03.177 --> 0:12:05.657 things that were expected to be delivered of us, even 0:12:05.657 --> 0:12:07.577 though people said we weren't able to do it. We 0:12:07.617 --> 0:12:11.657 then saw collusion even between the health industry and pharmaceutical 0:12:11.657 --> 0:12:14.977 lobby to delay the rollout of the vaccine itself. And 0:12:15.057 --> 0:12:18.177 yet I still get no credit. Well, you know, that's 0:12:18.217 --> 0:12:19.697 all well and good, but he's going to come out. 0:12:19.817 --> 0:12:21.337 He's gonna have to come out, and I think he 0:12:21.337 --> 0:12:23.377 will come out at some point and say, you know, 0:12:23.417 --> 0:12:25.177 well I was tricked just like the rest of you. 0:12:25.537 --> 0:12:28.697 Where do you come down at this point on the 0:12:28.777 --> 0:12:32.177 looming showdown that you know, everyone is expecting Trump and 0:12:32.217 --> 0:12:36.337 de Santis in a primary. Now I know Trump has announced, 0:12:36.337 --> 0:12:39.537 de Santis has not, who knows. I'm a big proponent 0:12:39.577 --> 0:12:41.737 of saying nobody can predict the future, and all you 0:12:41.777 --> 0:12:43.617 can do is look back at people's predictions, and you 0:12:43.697 --> 0:12:45.817 know that nobody can predict the future. They can get 0:12:45.817 --> 0:12:48.617 it right. They can get binaries meaning a yes or 0:12:48.657 --> 0:12:51.497 no or you know, A or B right about fifty 0:12:51.497 --> 0:12:54.217 percent of the time, which makes sense, right, people will 0:12:54.257 --> 0:12:56.857 get it as often as they don't when they're trying 0:12:56.897 --> 0:13:00.177 to predict events for the most part. That all said, 0:13:00.217 --> 0:13:03.377 with all that throat clearing in place, are you already 0:13:03.457 --> 0:13:05.897 determined that it's one or the other in terms of 0:13:05.937 --> 0:13:07.897 what you think is best for the Republican Party or 0:13:07.897 --> 0:13:12.617 are you in wait and see mode? Yeah? I feel 0:13:12.657 --> 0:13:15.457 like the zen Master. You know, It's that It's that 0:13:15.737 --> 0:13:20.137 moment from Charlie Wilson's War. You know, the zen Master says, 0:13:20.137 --> 0:13:23.857 we'll see, we'll see. But but you know, the foundation 0:13:23.937 --> 0:13:27.617 is clearly obviously there for Rhonda Santists. It's there amongst 0:13:27.617 --> 0:13:30.377 the people around him, it's there amongst the donor class 0:13:31.017 --> 0:13:33.057 that have clearly said that they're on his side. It's 0:13:33.057 --> 0:13:35.857 there in terms of a level of the grassroots support 0:13:35.937 --> 0:13:37.937 now who say they want him to run. It's it's 0:13:38.017 --> 0:13:40.577 it's visible to me that everything that you would want 0:13:40.657 --> 0:13:45.297 in place for a presidential run, Rhonda Santist has seems 0:13:45.337 --> 0:13:47.017 to have in place. Whether or not that's of his 0:13:47.137 --> 0:13:52.257 doing is another concern there are. I'm currently reading a 0:13:52.257 --> 0:13:55.097 book by Rhonda Santists. Not many people have read it 0:13:55.417 --> 0:13:57.657 or even know that he wrote a book, but he did. 0:13:58.417 --> 0:14:00.977 This was before he was a public figure at all, really, 0:14:01.377 --> 0:14:05.897 and it was during the Obama administration. And he goes 0:14:05.937 --> 0:14:10.537 into quite a lot of detail about constitutional law, the unders, 0:14:10.577 --> 0:14:13.937 the federalist papers, and it's it's so clear that he's 0:14:13.937 --> 0:14:21.057 a genuinely like brilliant constitutional mind that the writing is 0:14:21.137 --> 0:14:23.817 excellent for somebody who hadn't written a book before. The 0:14:24.217 --> 0:14:28.257 framing is excellent, The points he makes throughout the book 0:14:28.377 --> 0:14:31.697 a point and not talking points, you know. And I 0:14:31.737 --> 0:14:33.617 remember once interviewing him back and I think it was 0:14:33.617 --> 0:14:37.137 twenty fifteen or sixteen, and saying to him at the time, look, 0:14:37.177 --> 0:14:38.737 I hope you don't mind me saying, but I think 0:14:38.737 --> 0:14:42.737 you've got it. You know, the look, the family, the experience, 0:14:42.897 --> 0:14:45.857 the awards and the military, so on and so forth. 0:14:46.577 --> 0:14:51.737 The problem I have here is almost like Trump as well, 0:14:52.017 --> 0:14:55.297 is the people around him. I'm not sure that Ronda 0:14:55.377 --> 0:14:58.097 Santis has a team around him that a lot of 0:14:58.097 --> 0:15:00.737 people will find palatable. He certainly doesn't have a lot 0:15:00.777 --> 0:15:03.057 of donuts, big donors that a lot of people will 0:15:03.057 --> 0:15:07.257 find palatable. And so when I said in the last 0:15:07.457 --> 0:15:10.297 conversation that we were having on the last topic about 0:15:10.337 --> 0:15:13.697 what can be forgiven and what can't be I think 0:15:13.777 --> 0:15:16.417 a lot of Republicans will air on the side if 0:15:16.417 --> 0:15:19.497 it's between Trump and DeSantis, with better the devil you 0:15:19.537 --> 0:15:21.937 know than the devil you know than the devil you don't. 0:15:22.457 --> 0:15:25.137 And they will also be asking a lot of questions about, well, 0:15:25.177 --> 0:15:27.857 you know, who is advising him on foreign policy? He's been, 0:15:27.897 --> 0:15:30.537 he's saber rattled a lot on the Middle East and 0:15:30.617 --> 0:15:33.057 Iran and Israel and all of these things. Is he 0:15:33.137 --> 0:15:36.737 going to be another Bush? He will have as many 0:15:36.817 --> 0:15:40.137 questions to answer on those debate stages as Donald Trump will, 0:15:40.377 --> 0:15:44.057 and I think people should rejoice about that. I think 0:15:44.217 --> 0:15:50.497 the Republican base deserves a full and rough and hard 0:15:50.537 --> 0:15:55.337 and difficult primary because for two reasons, not just because 0:15:55.537 --> 0:15:58.577 it allows for those arguments to be had and those 0:15:59.257 --> 0:16:02.057 what might seem to be sort of niche issues to 0:16:02.097 --> 0:16:05.897 come out, but also it trains that person up, whoever 0:16:06.217 --> 0:16:09.777 you know, becomes the nominee, it trains them up for 0:16:10.097 --> 0:16:14.577 the bigger occasions, the presidential debates, the campaign itself. And 0:16:14.697 --> 0:16:18.857 I think if Trump lacked anything last time in his campaign, 0:16:19.217 --> 0:16:21.297 it was that he didn't go through a primary, right, 0:16:21.337 --> 0:16:25.497 he didn't get to warm up before the big fight. Yeah, 0:16:25.537 --> 0:16:28.097 and if you're a boxer, if you're in any sport, 0:16:28.137 --> 0:16:30.297 really you don't want to go out there for the 0:16:30.377 --> 0:16:34.217 championship and not have actually done your thing for weeks 0:16:34.297 --> 0:16:36.617 or even even months beforehand. So I can see. I 0:16:36.657 --> 0:16:39.057 think you're right by the way that it's almost a 0:16:39.657 --> 0:16:43.137 stone upon which the blade can be sharpened for any politician. 0:16:43.177 --> 0:16:44.937 But on our side, we're certainly going to need that 0:16:45.257 --> 0:16:47.817 given the media reality that we're up against. I want 0:16:47.817 --> 0:16:53.097 to ask you about the royal family rahem, which I 0:16:53.137 --> 0:16:55.377 will do in just a second in case anyone couldn't 0:16:55.377 --> 0:16:57.457 figure it out from his accent, which I know many 0:16:57.497 --> 0:16:59.497 of us are jealous of because it is super fancy 0:16:59.657 --> 0:17:01.897 and adds a level of gravitass to everything that he says. 0:17:02.217 --> 0:17:04.897 Raheem is from the United Kingdom, and I have some 0:17:04.977 --> 0:17:08.697 questions about this. There's this book out, there's an obsession 0:17:08.737 --> 0:17:11.057 in the media with the author of this book, and 0:17:11.657 --> 0:17:13.377 what is this whole thing with monarchy. We're going to 0:17:13.417 --> 0:17:14.977 talk about it in a second. 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You could be like I just think 0:18:36.577 --> 0:18:40.297 to myself, I don't understand how anyone can see this 0:18:41.017 --> 0:18:44.017 as as anything other than I don't know, I viewed 0:18:44.057 --> 0:18:49.057 as as entirely ridiculous. Why why do people care so much? 0:18:49.857 --> 0:18:52.097 Both in the UK and here at home about say, 0:18:52.737 --> 0:18:56.977 the spare Prince Harry biography and the Meghan Markle back 0:18:56.977 --> 0:18:58.977 and forth, all this stuff. I look at this and 0:18:59.017 --> 0:19:01.977 I'm like, these are these are celebrities basically like this, 0:19:02.057 --> 0:19:04.577 I might as well be watching, you know, the latest 0:19:05.417 --> 0:19:08.177 on the Kardashians, you know who they're dating or something. 0:19:08.217 --> 0:19:10.977 I just don't care. Am I missing something? Please explain 0:19:11.057 --> 0:19:14.537 to me, because you actually come from Great Britain, Go ahead, 0:19:15.457 --> 0:19:18.177 well I do, and I actually come from a historic 0:19:18.217 --> 0:19:22.617 county called Middlesex. And I just saw that your your 0:19:22.657 --> 0:19:26.017 American Giant hoodies are made in Middlesex, North Carolina, so 0:19:26.057 --> 0:19:31.217 we have a we have a link there. I am 0:19:31.257 --> 0:19:35.017 a monarchist, and I'm a proud one. I believe in 0:19:35.057 --> 0:19:38.497 the institution of monarchy. I believe in having a part 0:19:38.777 --> 0:19:42.617 of your government being there for the long haul, and 0:19:42.657 --> 0:19:46.257 therefore having the nation's interests at heart, rather than re 0:19:46.417 --> 0:19:49.657 election or fundraising or anything like that at heart. I 0:19:49.937 --> 0:19:53.337 don't believe in a in a tyrannical or dictatorship. I 0:19:53.377 --> 0:19:56.297 don't believe in a in a vast amount of executive 0:19:56.337 --> 0:20:00.217 authority being vested in the crown. But there is a difference. 0:20:00.377 --> 0:20:03.457 There is a difference between the crown, right, the monarchy 0:20:03.537 --> 0:20:06.297 is an institution and the royal family. The royal family, 0:20:06.377 --> 0:20:09.697 like you say, can become very much like watching reality 0:20:09.737 --> 0:20:12.537 teller vision and and the tabloid papers love to make 0:20:12.577 --> 0:20:16.217 it that right. Um, Megan Markel is really the reason 0:20:16.257 --> 0:20:18.337 that we're having this conversation here, and I'll remind you 0:20:18.377 --> 0:20:20.897 where she comes from and it is not the United Kingdom, 0:20:21.257 --> 0:20:23.737 so so so thank you for that. And of course 0:20:23.737 --> 0:20:27.297 the last big blow up that we had really I mean, 0:20:28.017 --> 0:20:30.817 you know, if you exclude Diana from it in and 0:20:30.857 --> 0:20:34.377 of herself, was you know Wallace Simpson another American who 0:20:34.377 --> 0:20:36.657 got embroiled in the royal family and caused the king 0:20:36.697 --> 0:20:41.417 to abdicate. This is blaming America for the British royal 0:20:41.497 --> 0:20:46.137 families mess ups. Look at this. I will take responsibility 0:20:46.177 --> 0:20:49.497 for Christopher Steele if you take responsibility for Megan Markle. 0:20:49.537 --> 0:20:53.577 That's all I'm saying, right, unbelievable, unbelievable. But so you 0:20:53.657 --> 0:20:57.457 think that there is a role for it? Oh? Massive, 0:20:57.577 --> 0:20:59.777 I mean massive, I mean this is this is actually 0:21:00.177 --> 0:21:02.857 you asked me what you know what really sort of 0:21:03.017 --> 0:21:05.417 is bugging me politically at the moment and maybe even 0:21:05.497 --> 0:21:07.537 keeping me up at night a little bit. It is 0:21:07.537 --> 0:21:10.937 the incoming constitutional vandalism that we were about to see 0:21:10.977 --> 0:21:13.897 because the Labor Party, which is which is our left 0:21:13.897 --> 0:21:16.617 wing party in the United Kingdom, looks like it's going 0:21:16.657 --> 0:21:19.057 to take the reigns of government next time around after 0:21:19.097 --> 0:21:22.297 there is an election, and they have promised to abolish 0:21:22.297 --> 0:21:25.577 the House of Laws that is our upper chamber. They 0:21:25.617 --> 0:21:29.697 will replace it with an elected Senate. And my position 0:21:29.737 --> 0:21:33.097 on this is that what is the point of bicamerality, right, 0:21:33.177 --> 0:21:37.537 two chambers in your congress, parliament, whatever, if they're both 0:21:37.617 --> 0:21:39.817 chosen in the same way. I think you guys had 0:21:39.857 --> 0:21:43.217 a constitutional amendment that reflected from number seventeen or something 0:21:43.257 --> 0:21:45.977 like that that changed the nature of what your set, 0:21:46.057 --> 0:21:49.137 how your Senate was chosen, and it basically ruined the Senate. 0:21:49.537 --> 0:21:52.257 The Senate was never supposed to be just another democratic 0:21:52.297 --> 0:21:54.857 body full of politicians, and they're going to do that 0:21:54.897 --> 0:21:56.857 to our House of Lords. So here's the thing. So 0:21:56.937 --> 0:22:00.817 we're going to have two democratic chambers in our parliament. 0:22:01.097 --> 0:22:04.377 The executive branch in the United Kingdom is also chosen 0:22:04.457 --> 0:22:07.457 from the parliament, and then you're basically saying there shouldn't 0:22:07.457 --> 0:22:10.257 be a monarchy either, So at that point you've got 0:22:10.297 --> 0:22:13.377 a tyranny of the majority system. It doesn't work. There 0:22:13.417 --> 0:22:16.937 has to be something more than just politicians who push 0:22:17.017 --> 0:22:19.697 that stuff around. And it's really interesting to me because 0:22:19.777 --> 0:22:22.617 Kars Starmer Circus Starmer, who is the leader of the 0:22:22.697 --> 0:22:25.537 Labor Party right now, who will become the prime minister 0:22:25.577 --> 0:22:28.977 if the polls remain the same, went to Davos, went 0:22:29.017 --> 0:22:31.377 to the World Economic Forum and he was asked by 0:22:31.697 --> 0:22:34.617 a reporter, Emily Maitliss, if you had to choose between 0:22:34.657 --> 0:22:39.217 Westminster and Davos, which would it be, And he said Davos, Well, 0:22:39.217 --> 0:22:42.497 it's interesting, isn't it that he is the one that's 0:22:42.617 --> 0:22:47.057 charging head first with constitutional vandalism and at the same 0:22:47.097 --> 0:22:50.777 time he thinks the unelected other way to get things done. 0:22:50.817 --> 0:22:53.777 It doesn't it doesn't hold. The argument doesn't hold. And 0:22:53.817 --> 0:22:57.457 so I think you do need somebody who has the 0:22:57.497 --> 0:23:00.297 long term interest in the nation at heart. So even 0:23:00.377 --> 0:23:02.497 if they don't have real power, right like it's a 0:23:02.537 --> 0:23:05.897 symbolism that's supposed to be. I don't even know what 0:23:05.937 --> 0:23:12.417 authority is dilvested in the monarch. Well, the very It's 0:23:12.417 --> 0:23:15.857 interesting because in my book Enoch was right. I talk 0:23:15.937 --> 0:23:18.897 about this right in nineteen forty eight, when the Canadians 0:23:18.897 --> 0:23:22.777 effectively created their own form of nationality and said we're 0:23:22.777 --> 0:23:27.337 not subjects anymore, we have Canadian citizenship. It changed everything 0:23:27.617 --> 0:23:30.817 for the entire British Empire. And so we went from 0:23:30.857 --> 0:23:33.977 subjects to citizens within the same period of time. But 0:23:34.337 --> 0:23:37.177 what are you citizens off is the question? Because of 0:23:37.217 --> 0:23:39.737 course we have England, we have Wales, we have Northern Ireland, 0:23:39.777 --> 0:23:42.897 we have Scotland. Several of those make up Great Britain. 0:23:42.977 --> 0:23:45.417 Several more of those together make up the United Kingdom. 0:23:45.577 --> 0:23:49.177 You know, we have this kind of grand union of 0:23:49.457 --> 0:23:55.137 different countries and entities that voluntarily come together, much like 0:23:55.217 --> 0:23:57.977 your states. Right, And they say, okay, we are going 0:23:58.017 --> 0:24:01.777 to vest our power in the nation, but what is 0:24:01.777 --> 0:24:05.137 the nation? Well, the nation has to be more than 0:24:05.177 --> 0:24:08.057 the sum of its politicians, right, It can't just be 0:24:08.857 --> 0:24:11.737 some tech that are scribbled down. Because you know, you 0:24:11.777 --> 0:24:14.417 have a constitution. Remember we don't have a written constitution. 0:24:14.457 --> 0:24:18.297 We have an evolving constitution. Right. Our primary law is 0:24:18.337 --> 0:24:21.497 our constitution. It's it's it's it gets very complicated, but 0:24:21.537 --> 0:24:24.697 it's not dull. I assure you that I know, a 0:24:24.777 --> 0:24:26.977 lot of people get sort of think, oh, you know, 0:24:27.017 --> 0:24:29.217 what do I know about constitutional you know, import and 0:24:29.257 --> 0:24:31.617 all of this stuff as it relates to politics. It's everything. 0:24:31.777 --> 0:24:34.537 If you don't understand the way your country works, then 0:24:34.537 --> 0:24:37.537 you can't really complain about how it works. And at 0:24:37.577 --> 0:24:40.257 the end of all of the all of the questions 0:24:40.257 --> 0:24:43.977 that are raised about what makes Britain Britain is the crown, 0:24:44.297 --> 0:24:47.857 because the crown is the connection between the nation and God. 0:24:48.337 --> 0:24:52.737 That's why, as you'll see when Charles is crowned, if 0:24:52.817 --> 0:24:56.537 formally that they will touch his head with anointing oil, 0:24:56.937 --> 0:24:58.737 and that is the head of the Church of mind. 0:24:58.977 --> 0:25:01.097 Isn't the crown that the head of the Church of England. 0:25:01.137 --> 0:25:04.497 Technically that's that's how this that is what signifies, which 0:25:04.497 --> 0:25:07.697 I think not the man that really has the power 0:25:08.217 --> 0:25:11.777 is Big Odds that has the power. I think Hitchens. Hitchens, 0:25:11.777 --> 0:25:14.777 who was just a poor man's raheem becausam Christopher Hitchins 0:25:14.817 --> 0:25:18.057 used to say that, yes, the Church of England built 0:25:18.097 --> 0:25:20.417 on the family values of Henry the Eighth, which I 0:25:20.457 --> 0:25:24.217 think it's pretty funny, but anyway, it was a Hitchens line. Um. 0:25:24.257 --> 0:25:27.897 But yes, back to back to the Crown. By the way, 0:25:27.937 --> 0:25:31.817 I'm not sure that Christopher Hitchins can can can wax 0:25:32.057 --> 0:25:36.537 moral um about anybody else's exploits. Well, he's certainly not 0:25:36.577 --> 0:25:39.897 here anymore to defend himself, so there's that. But but 0:25:40.017 --> 0:25:43.897 tell me this, um uh, Well, I was actually gonna 0:25:43.897 --> 0:25:45.337 ask you something kind of silly for a second, just 0:25:45.377 --> 0:25:47.577 to take us in a different direction. Do you do 0:25:47.617 --> 0:25:50.697 you watch The Crown like every because I tried to 0:25:50.737 --> 0:25:52.777 fight it as long as I can. But you know, 0:25:52.857 --> 0:25:55.457 you have a girlfriend, I have a fiance. The ladies 0:25:55.497 --> 0:25:57.697 love that show man. I don't know. I couldn't fight 0:25:57.737 --> 0:25:59.297 it off anymore. I was like, all right, fine, honey, 0:25:59.297 --> 0:26:01.937 we'll watch The Crown. And it's pretty engrossing for what 0:26:01.977 --> 0:26:06.937 it is. Yeah. Actually, my girlfriend doesn't like the Crown, 0:26:07.217 --> 0:26:11.217 and I think it calls She's just like a very 0:26:11.337 --> 0:26:16.657 red blooded American patriot and finds it all very stuffy 0:26:16.697 --> 0:26:20.137 and boring. And he did fight a war elevant not 0:26:20.297 --> 0:26:22.417 that long ago, so we would pretty much never have 0:26:22.497 --> 0:26:25.257 to pay any attention to that royal family ever. Again 0:26:25.297 --> 0:26:28.097 here that that is the thing. So for Americans. That's 0:26:28.177 --> 0:26:29.897 why I ask you, as a brit why do you 0:26:29.977 --> 0:26:32.097 care as an Americans. I do not want to hear 0:26:32.137 --> 0:26:34.497 it from people. It's bizarre the fixation they have with 0:26:34.577 --> 0:26:37.377 the the British royal family. It makes no sense to 0:26:37.377 --> 0:26:39.937 me at all, But for British people, I understand. Um, 0:26:40.617 --> 0:26:43.057 so that's that's one air. So we've we've well, look, 0:26:43.097 --> 0:26:45.617 I mean, The Crown is a good show. It's not 0:26:45.737 --> 0:26:48.737 particularly true to real life, but it's it's it's it's 0:26:48.817 --> 0:26:53.497 very entertaining. The interest in it, however, speaks to something broader, 0:26:53.657 --> 0:26:54.937 I think, And I know you're not going to like 0:26:55.097 --> 0:26:57.577 what I'm about to say, but I do think Americans 0:26:57.657 --> 0:27:02.457 kind of miss something. They miss this this institution almost. 0:27:02.497 --> 0:27:05.977 I'm not saying that they want to be ruled from London, right. 0:27:06.097 --> 0:27:09.217 You maybe want your own monarchy, but people want something 0:27:09.217 --> 0:27:11.897 that spirational and in a country where we have the 0:27:11.897 --> 0:27:14.857 founding Fathers being torn down all the time, and there's there, 0:27:15.457 --> 0:27:19.257 I think there is something that, look, we all love 0:27:19.417 --> 0:27:22.057 like I'm sure there were. Of course, there's British Republicans 0:27:22.097 --> 0:27:23.777 who want the an end to the monarchy and so 0:27:23.857 --> 0:27:25.377 on and so forth, and that and that is only 0:27:25.457 --> 0:27:27.737 unfortunately going to grow and grow with with Charles at 0:27:27.737 --> 0:27:32.697 the helm Um. But everyone basically loved her Majesty the Queen. 0:27:32.777 --> 0:27:35.417 They understood that her life was Yes, she gets to 0:27:35.457 --> 0:27:37.617 live in nice, big palaces, but they understood that her 0:27:37.657 --> 0:27:39.777 life was really service. And I was lucky enough to 0:27:39.777 --> 0:27:41.897 be able to go to Windsor Castle and pay my 0:27:41.977 --> 0:27:45.097 respects at her tomb recently. And and and we had 0:27:45.577 --> 0:27:49.737 as a nation we could come together and celebrate, um 0:27:49.897 --> 0:27:53.817 that that person doing such great things. UM. I just 0:27:53.897 --> 0:27:57.537 offhand referred to her as as in terms of popularity, 0:27:57.817 --> 0:28:01.857 the Dolly Parton of the of the United Kingdom, which 0:28:01.937 --> 0:28:04.537 Clay thought. He was like, you're you're crazy. You're gonna 0:28:04.577 --> 0:28:07.297 get so so bashed or attorney. There was like a 0:28:07.337 --> 0:28:09.777 big Tennessee newspaper that picked that up or you know 0:28:09.857 --> 0:28:11.337 that he took that line. I don't they heard it 0:28:11.377 --> 0:28:12.537 from me, or they just went with it. But she 0:28:12.657 --> 0:28:15.457 was like the Dolly Parton of the United Kingdom. Everybody 0:28:15.497 --> 0:28:17.937 loved her, which I thought was pretty funny. Um okay. 0:28:17.977 --> 0:28:20.257 So see, we had Viri Lynn during the during the 0:28:20.257 --> 0:28:22.697 Second World War, we had Viri Lynn and Viri Lynn. 0:28:22.777 --> 0:28:26.857 People will know the song We'll Meet Again and actually 0:28:26.897 --> 0:28:28.857 We'll Meet Again was one of the last songs that 0:28:28.897 --> 0:28:31.897 was ever played on one of the Queen's Christmas addresses, 0:28:32.177 --> 0:28:34.137 and so that I feel like Viri Lynn was kind 0:28:34.177 --> 0:28:36.737 of our Dolly parton. I feel like the reason you 0:28:36.777 --> 0:28:42.177 don't have a comparison is because of the very short 0:28:42.297 --> 0:28:45.337 term nature of both your politics and your celebrity life. 0:28:45.657 --> 0:28:49.217 And again, it's hard to explain because I understand that 0:28:49.297 --> 0:28:53.057 constitutionally you guys are reversed to it, but from an 0:28:53.097 --> 0:28:56.417 institutional perspective, a lot of a lot of Britons like 0:28:56.497 --> 0:28:59.417 myself look at it and go, I'm so comforted by that. 0:28:59.617 --> 0:29:02.937 So this, this turns, this turns into the next. I 0:29:02.937 --> 0:29:05.217 think it's an easy way to transition into something that 0:29:05.537 --> 0:29:07.577 to me is is related and you can take this 0:29:07.617 --> 0:29:11.937 ever you want. Um which is I remember, I think 0:29:11.937 --> 0:29:16.417 it was actually Andrew Tate before he was held in prison. 0:29:16.457 --> 0:29:20.217 He has UK citizenship as well as American citizenship. I 0:29:20.257 --> 0:29:22.257 think he said that England is a country that no 0:29:22.297 --> 0:29:24.737 longer stands for anything, that won't and that won't defend 0:29:24.737 --> 0:29:29.137 its values in as effectively in terminal decline as a society. 0:29:30.737 --> 0:29:33.377 Do you agree with that diagnosis? And I asked because 0:29:33.377 --> 0:29:35.497 as an American, I think a lot of people look 0:29:35.497 --> 0:29:39.097 at Canada, Look at the UK. Look at Australia. I 0:29:39.137 --> 0:29:41.737 was living in and now I've never been there, and 0:29:41.857 --> 0:29:43.897 I don't profess to be an Australia expert. I thought 0:29:43.897 --> 0:29:45.617 it was kind of like the United Kingdom with nicer 0:29:45.657 --> 0:29:49.897 people in kangaroos, But turns out they're a bunch of 0:29:50.617 --> 0:29:55.057 socialists who will do whatever they're told and embrace authoritarianism, 0:29:55.057 --> 0:29:59.057 embraced the most insane COVID lunacy. And that really worries 0:29:59.057 --> 0:30:01.097 me in a society that it can't actually be nimble 0:30:01.097 --> 0:30:03.257 and adapt to reality as it happens, that it could 0:30:03.257 --> 0:30:06.097 be overtaken by a mass hysteria. Same thing in Canada 0:30:06.177 --> 0:30:09.457 under Trudeau. Is the UK a country, and so we 0:30:09.497 --> 0:30:11.977 think that those places are just further ahead of America. 0:30:12.417 --> 0:30:14.817 You know, there there are warning signs of what we 0:30:14.857 --> 0:30:19.857 will turn into if we don't stand for certain values freedom, liberty, individuality. 0:30:20.417 --> 0:30:22.457 Is the UK in terminal decline. What do you make 0:30:22.497 --> 0:30:26.897 of that? Serfdom? I mean, what you're talking about is serfdom, right, 0:30:26.897 --> 0:30:29.537 and it's it's it's the worst part of it is 0:30:29.777 --> 0:30:32.337 almost the choice to be a serf, to be a 0:30:32.377 --> 0:30:36.217 slave to your to your government, your bureaucrats, your politicians, 0:30:36.257 --> 0:30:38.577 and forget that they are the ones who are either 0:30:38.617 --> 0:30:42.857 supposed to represent your interests or as you guys once 0:30:42.897 --> 0:30:46.337 did you know, they'll get tarred and feathered and tossed 0:30:46.377 --> 0:30:49.817 overboard and serfdom is a very difficult thing in a 0:30:49.857 --> 0:30:55.617 world that is increasingly relativistic morally and is increasingly secularized 0:30:55.897 --> 0:30:59.057 because because government has become the religion. You know, in 0:30:59.097 --> 0:31:02.457 the United Kingdom, the National Health Service which is failing, 0:31:02.657 --> 0:31:07.697 I mean failing. They're having to set up temporary morgues 0:31:07.737 --> 0:31:11.737 and mortuaries across the country because the National Health Service 0:31:12.257 --> 0:31:14.937 is killing people. It is killing people by not showing 0:31:15.017 --> 0:31:17.617 up in time when ambulances are called. It is killing 0:31:17.617 --> 0:31:22.097 people because it is spending gargantu in sums of money. 0:31:22.217 --> 0:31:25.177 You know, the National Health Services budget has doubled in 0:31:25.217 --> 0:31:28.537 the last I think it's ten, ten to fifteen years. 0:31:28.777 --> 0:31:31.217 The health has doubled. Do you think we have seen 0:31:32.017 --> 0:31:36.377 commensurate rises in care as a result of that budget doubling. No, 0:31:36.577 --> 0:31:39.457 we haven't. We've actually seen a worsening in care over 0:31:39.457 --> 0:31:41.457 the last decade in the United Kingdom and the National 0:31:41.457 --> 0:31:44.017 Health Service, you know, they call it the envy of 0:31:44.017 --> 0:31:46.857 the world. I have never met anybody anywhere in the 0:31:46.857 --> 0:31:50.017 world who envies our healthcare system. I've never met anybody 0:31:50.057 --> 0:31:52.377 anywhere in the world who looks at my teeth and goes, well, 0:31:52.377 --> 0:31:54.977 that's wonderful. I want to use the dentists that you're using. 0:31:55.337 --> 0:31:59.377 And and you know, we've we've placed God with government 0:31:59.457 --> 0:32:02.977 in our societies. We've replaced you know this, this this 0:32:03.097 --> 0:32:07.057 appeal to something greater than us and greater than the little, 0:32:07.097 --> 0:32:11.457 particular particularisms of the lives, all little lives we lead 0:32:12.457 --> 0:32:16.217 with bureaucracy and the boring nature of the things that 0:32:16.257 --> 0:32:22.137 they tell us are moral, which are oftentimes wildly immoral things. Right, 0:32:22.217 --> 0:32:26.897 I think of transgender you know, library drag queen our 0:32:27.017 --> 0:32:29.057 or whatever they're calling it nowadays, is one of the 0:32:29.097 --> 0:32:32.577 great examples of what is being deified. So it's like 0:32:32.617 --> 0:32:36.897 a bathtub right where where we know that we have 0:32:36.937 --> 0:32:40.777 to keep that tub full of warm water, that that 0:32:40.777 --> 0:32:44.497 that that cleanses us, that nourishes us, that protects us, 0:32:44.537 --> 0:32:48.337 that keeps us warm. Meanwhile, our davos ali are constantly 0:32:48.377 --> 0:32:51.417 pulling the plug and we're just constantly trying to trying 0:32:51.457 --> 0:32:54.337 to plug that hole with with all manner of things. 0:32:54.337 --> 0:32:56.817 Brexit as a good example of that, right that that 0:32:57.017 --> 0:33:00.857 was the United Kingdoms electorate slamming their hand on the 0:33:00.937 --> 0:33:04.817 drain and saying, well, well, well, well we need our own, 0:33:05.257 --> 0:33:07.617 you know, system of government to keep us independent, to 0:33:07.697 --> 0:33:10.017 keep us sovereign, to keep us safe, and to hold 0:33:10.057 --> 0:33:13.177 our belief in something. But the problem with that is, sorry, 0:33:13.217 --> 0:33:16.697 I know I'm break it because you're very close to 0:33:16.697 --> 0:33:18.057 it and know Nigel, and so I want to put 0:33:18.057 --> 0:33:20.337 a pin in that. But keep going. But just in 0:33:20.417 --> 0:33:23.377 conclusion of all of that point, you know, you ask 0:33:23.417 --> 0:33:25.937 about terminal decline, it's not that. It's not that we 0:33:26.577 --> 0:33:30.617 the people of any of these western countries necessarily believe 0:33:30.657 --> 0:33:32.817 in the terminal decline of our nations. Yes, of course, 0:33:32.817 --> 0:33:35.857 some silly Marxists you know, have bought into it, but 0:33:35.897 --> 0:33:38.937 they we can overcome those people. We are stronger than 0:33:38.937 --> 0:33:42.097 them in very many ways. But but it's that every 0:33:42.137 --> 0:33:45.817 time we get anywhere close to not just stopping that, 0:33:45.897 --> 0:33:49.297 but actually turning the taps on and refilling the bathtub, 0:33:49.537 --> 0:33:51.257 it's the it's the you know, we call them the 0:33:51.337 --> 0:33:56.137 Davos Elite. Today it's it's Davos one day, it's Brussels. Another, 0:33:56.577 --> 0:33:59.617 It's Capitol Hill another. All of those people and all 0:33:59.657 --> 0:34:02.497 of those institutions are still just tugging away at that 0:34:02.937 --> 0:34:07.417 at that drain. Now, you did have a decline particular, right, right, 0:34:07.457 --> 0:34:11.777 you did have a particular view of Brexit. Somebody who 0:34:11.937 --> 0:34:15.057 you were on Nigel Farage's staff, you know Nigel very well, 0:34:15.377 --> 0:34:20.737 you know the Brexiteers personally and in a close way. 0:34:21.737 --> 0:34:23.457 We were told, I mean, if you were somebody who 0:34:23.537 --> 0:34:26.297 was reading you know, the Economist or the editorial page 0:34:26.297 --> 0:34:28.337 of the New York Times, that Brexit was going to 0:34:28.417 --> 0:34:30.537 lead to calamity. Right, I'm not sure if it was 0:34:30.537 --> 0:34:32.177 going to be that all the Brits would be starving, 0:34:32.217 --> 0:34:34.297 but you know, bad things were going to happen from it, 0:34:34.377 --> 0:34:37.417 and then it was madness. What has been the report 0:34:37.457 --> 0:34:40.057 card since Brexit? I mean, what has gone on? How 0:34:40.097 --> 0:34:42.257 would you view it now that some years have passed 0:34:42.337 --> 0:34:45.657 since that event that seemed to shock the international elites 0:34:46.057 --> 0:34:49.217 and create this moment of maybe we're not all going 0:34:49.257 --> 0:34:55.137 to be taking orders from bureaucrats in Brussels. Actually, now, 0:34:55.337 --> 0:34:57.257 this is this is where it gets really interesting. Because 0:34:57.257 --> 0:34:59.897 I talked earlier about how kiss Stamol wants to replace 0:34:59.937 --> 0:35:02.897 the House of Lords with with a Senate. Well, why 0:35:02.937 --> 0:35:04.777 does he really want to do that, Because what he 0:35:04.817 --> 0:35:07.617 intends to do is pass primary legislation in the House 0:35:07.617 --> 0:35:10.617 of Commons to rejoin the European Union, and he knows 0:35:10.617 --> 0:35:12.777 it will be easier to pass in an elected Senate 0:35:12.977 --> 0:35:15.577 to rejoin the European Union than it would pass through 0:35:15.657 --> 0:35:18.937 the House of Lords in our current constitutional format. So 0:35:18.937 --> 0:35:22.497 so right now in the British press on an almost 0:35:22.577 --> 0:35:24.657 daily basis, and I go through it on an almost 0:35:24.737 --> 0:35:25.897 daily base. Well, now I go through it on a 0:35:25.937 --> 0:35:29.297 daily basis. You see, you know, when are we going 0:35:29.337 --> 0:35:32.697 to rejoin the EU? Should Britain rejoin the EU? Brexit 0:35:32.817 --> 0:35:36.537 is least less popular than ever before, and as the 0:35:36.617 --> 0:35:42.937 older generation that predominantly voted for Brexit is dying out unfortunately, 0:35:43.297 --> 0:35:48.097 and as the Conservative part Conservative Party continues to govern 0:35:48.217 --> 0:35:52.417 as a center left party, Brexit is being watered down, 0:35:52.497 --> 0:35:55.497 it is being neutralized. There are all sorts of things 0:35:55.497 --> 0:35:57.737 that are blamed nowadays on Brexit that that have nothing 0:35:57.777 --> 0:35:59.937 to do with Brexit, but the British public sort of 0:35:59.937 --> 0:36:01.497 looks at it and they're told it by the Sun 0:36:01.497 --> 0:36:04.577 newspaper and the Times newspaper and the Murdoch Press and 0:36:04.337 --> 0:36:06.457 and Sky News and the BBC, and they're told it 0:36:06.457 --> 0:36:07.697 and they go, oh, yeah, I guess it must have 0:36:07.697 --> 0:36:11.497 been Brexit. What a bad idea. So I think unfortunately 0:36:11.497 --> 0:36:13.857 we're looking at a campaign now to return to to 0:36:13.897 --> 0:36:17.617 the European Union within the next five years, and and 0:36:17.737 --> 0:36:22.137 they may well win that campaign. Is Britain salvageable as 0:36:22.177 --> 0:36:28.337 a great country with a great tradition and a great people, Well, 0:36:27.977 --> 0:36:31.777 you've described almost no longer exist. There is no one, 0:36:32.257 --> 0:36:35.337 you know, one British people anymore. In a lot of ways. 0:36:35.457 --> 0:36:38.937 I am evidence of that. You know, my parents were well, 0:36:38.977 --> 0:36:41.337 my father was born in Tanzania, my mother was born 0:36:41.337 --> 0:36:44.577 in India. My lineage goes back to India. Um and 0:36:44.777 --> 0:36:46.937 and a lot of people who are of my ilk 0:36:47.737 --> 0:36:51.057 chose not to assimilate, and they chose not to you know, 0:36:51.097 --> 0:36:54.377 have traditional British values, and they chose not to learn 0:36:54.457 --> 0:36:56.937 the language as as as fluently as I did, and 0:36:56.977 --> 0:36:59.777 they chose to kind of not have I wouldn't say 0:36:59.857 --> 0:37:03.457 like a dual loyalty, but certainly like a dualism right 0:37:03.697 --> 0:37:07.337 inside themselves. That that that, you know, and I don't 0:37:07.377 --> 0:37:09.337 like this. I don't like. I just I mean British 0:37:09.337 --> 0:37:11.977 of the American people. You know, the American people as 0:37:12.017 --> 0:37:16.377 one people exist. It's not about any racial, ethnic or 0:37:16.417 --> 0:37:20.057 religious identity. It's about your identity as an American. Bamba. 0:37:20.137 --> 0:37:25.257 The Constitution and our culture are shared history. So right, 0:37:25.297 --> 0:37:29.417 So is the UK salvageable in as that or is 0:37:29.417 --> 0:37:35.737 it breaking apart? I'm leading up to Yeah, go ahead, 0:37:35.777 --> 0:37:38.897 go ahead. Sorry, I just I like to flesh those 0:37:38.937 --> 0:37:41.297 things out, you know. And you the reason I say that, 0:37:41.297 --> 0:37:45.377 it's because you do it too, right, African American, Asian American, 0:37:45.457 --> 0:37:49.697 and everybody gets sort of segmented into these little identity groups, 0:37:49.697 --> 0:37:52.817 and we've done that as well. Unless there is a minister, 0:37:53.897 --> 0:37:58.057 a real sort of philosopher king that comes along and 0:37:58.057 --> 0:38:02.297 and reminds the country that it is one country in 0:38:02.337 --> 0:38:06.777 a very Disraelian sense, right, one nation. Conservatism was was 0:38:06.857 --> 0:38:13.177 the longest running strain of conservative thought in the United Kingdom. Ever, 0:38:13.937 --> 0:38:16.657 unless somebody comes along and reminds the general public of 0:38:16.737 --> 0:38:19.577 that and indeed forces them to believe in it, right Like, 0:38:19.617 --> 0:38:23.137 I don't mean, I don't mean through coercion, I mean 0:38:23.377 --> 0:38:27.857 through argument, you know, gets them to believe in that goal. 0:38:28.177 --> 0:38:31.497 Then then no, there isn't a United Kingdom anymore, and 0:38:31.857 --> 0:38:35.057 nor should we pretend that they will be. You cannot 0:38:35.137 --> 0:38:40.217 have a cohesive nation if everybody is taught that they 0:38:40.217 --> 0:38:43.537 are part of a different group than their next door neighbors. 0:38:44.337 --> 0:38:46.297 Is it more left wing as a country now in 0:38:46.337 --> 0:38:49.057 its totality than the US? I mean, you have a 0:38:49.097 --> 0:38:51.417 means of comparison here. You know, one thing that I 0:38:51.417 --> 0:38:54.137 think people have recognized about Canada is if you take 0:38:54.177 --> 0:38:59.017 the most you know, beta male low t Marxist leadership 0:38:59.097 --> 0:39:03.257 in America, that's actually much more common and much more 0:39:03.257 --> 0:39:07.137 powerful in the context of Canada and Trudeau and Trudeauism. Right, 0:39:07.657 --> 0:39:10.057 So is that also true about the UK? Right now? 0:39:10.137 --> 0:39:12.337 Are they even? Are they more awoke? I don't even 0:39:12.377 --> 0:39:14.097 know how much that term is used over there and 0:39:14.097 --> 0:39:17.617 then we are here. Oh it's used. It's used way 0:39:17.657 --> 0:39:20.297 too much over there, and it's it's used in a 0:39:20.337 --> 0:39:25.457 really cringe way. So so they don't say, like somebody goes, 0:39:25.897 --> 0:39:29.617 you know, woke In the UK, woke is the is 0:39:29.657 --> 0:39:33.377 the adjective that describes the movement. So there'll be like 0:39:33.537 --> 0:39:37.497 editorials in the Telegraph that says we must end woke, 0:39:38.017 --> 0:39:41.817 you know, as if that's like Antifa, um, and it 0:39:41.817 --> 0:39:44.217 gets up, it gets on my nerves. Just from a 0:39:44.337 --> 0:39:47.817 from a from a linguistic perspective. To answer your question, 0:39:48.777 --> 0:39:53.857 I think, governmentally, bureaucratically, we are far more of a 0:39:53.937 --> 0:39:55.817 left wing country and you should look to us as 0:39:55.817 --> 0:39:59.137 a warning of how not to run your country. Culturally. 0:39:59.457 --> 0:40:02.617 You know, I've been here for six years now. Culturally, 0:40:02.657 --> 0:40:05.017 I think America is more left wing. People in the 0:40:05.097 --> 0:40:10.537 United Kingdom are more, you know, more inclined to say, well, 0:40:10.617 --> 0:40:13.817 let's let's take a beat on that and think about that, 0:40:13.897 --> 0:40:17.497 and think about its implications to our culture, to our neighbors, 0:40:17.497 --> 0:40:21.457 to our society. The America seems every time somebody comes 0:40:21.537 --> 0:40:25.417 up with a you know, a progressive new thing, seems 0:40:25.457 --> 0:40:28.097 to just slam its foot on the accelerator and go, yeah, 0:40:28.137 --> 0:40:30.257 that's the new thing, and that's what we're going for now, 0:40:30.897 --> 0:40:34.617 whether it's BLM or what have you, or the transgender stuff. 0:40:34.657 --> 0:40:36.857 I mean, America, we have to we have to accept this. 0:40:37.217 --> 0:40:43.057 America is the single largest exporter of cultural Marxism in 0:40:43.097 --> 0:40:46.217 the world today, and that is a deeply, deeply shocking thing. 0:40:46.577 --> 0:40:48.577 And of course, when you guys sneeze, we all catch 0:40:48.577 --> 0:40:50.577 a cold. That stuff is now in Britain, it is 0:40:50.617 --> 0:40:52.497 now in Australia, it is now in Canada, it is 0:40:52.497 --> 0:40:54.737 all across Europe. You know, the French actually have the 0:40:54.777 --> 0:40:58.737 lowest tolerance for this stuff of almost any European nation. 0:40:58.777 --> 0:41:01.577 I mean, apart from these deeply social conservative nations like 0:41:01.897 --> 0:41:06.657 Poland and Hungary. The French look at American political cultures 0:41:06.977 --> 0:41:08.737 as they do most as they do look at most 0:41:08.737 --> 0:41:10.777 things American. Right, but we're going to I think it's 0:41:10.817 --> 0:41:12.817 our political culture. But yeah, they look at a lot 0:41:12.857 --> 0:41:14.897 of it. But but but on this one they're right. You know, 0:41:15.057 --> 0:41:17.697 on this thing. They're not just being French about it, 0:41:17.737 --> 0:41:21.337 They're actually being smart about it. And so you've got 0:41:21.377 --> 0:41:24.257 to know that when the French are right about something 0:41:24.377 --> 0:41:27.657 in critique of you, you've really got a problem. 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The 0:42:45.777 --> 0:42:49.457 craziest thing happening in America in America today is that 0:42:49.817 --> 0:42:54.617 is that the right has not managed cultural hegemony yet. 0:42:54.897 --> 0:43:00.497 Like that is like, yeah, I find that utterly, utterly baffling, 0:43:00.577 --> 0:43:03.697 to be honest with you, Um, that there is so 0:43:03.777 --> 0:43:07.137 much cultural rot and disease coming out of Hollywood and 0:43:07.217 --> 0:43:12.297 New York as you know, UM, but that we haven't, 0:43:12.337 --> 0:43:15.657 that we haven't really truly cut through that yet, really 0:43:15.657 --> 0:43:20.697 embarrasses me. It speaks to our lack of creativity. It 0:43:20.817 --> 0:43:25.457 speaks to our lack of honestly, for people who regard 0:43:25.497 --> 0:43:27.337 themselves as I do, and I don't, I don't profess 0:43:27.377 --> 0:43:29.217 to speak for you in this regard, but I regard 0:43:29.257 --> 0:43:32.737 myself as a populist. For people who regard themselves as populists, 0:43:32.777 --> 0:43:36.057 we're not very good at being popular in the things 0:43:36.057 --> 0:43:39.737 that we promote culturally. So that's why this year, I'm 0:43:39.777 --> 0:43:42.017 pleased to say, and I think you may be getting 0:43:42.057 --> 0:43:44.697 the exclusive here on this right now, that the National 0:43:44.737 --> 0:43:46.857 Pulse is going to be moving into that territory. We 0:43:46.897 --> 0:43:49.537 are going to be moving into print magazine territory. We 0:43:49.577 --> 0:43:52.537 are going to be moving into documentary territory. We are 0:43:52.617 --> 0:43:55.177 we are just widening the scope of the things that 0:43:55.217 --> 0:43:59.017 we present to as many people as possible, because because 0:43:59.057 --> 0:44:01.977 I was reading this Michael Anton essay, actually I think 0:44:01.977 --> 0:44:04.937 it was in I Am seventeen seventy six magazine, which 0:44:04.937 --> 0:44:09.177 is a great magazine about about Tom Wolfe and about 0:44:09.217 --> 0:44:13.897 the the the vacuums that he saw around him culturally 0:44:13.897 --> 0:44:17.017 and how he just chose to fill them, right. He 0:44:17.137 --> 0:44:20.937 just told the stories that he saw before him that 0:44:20.937 --> 0:44:23.417 he knew weren't being told anywhere else. On fire of 0:44:23.417 --> 0:44:25.697 the vanities, so on and so forth. And we've got 0:44:25.737 --> 0:44:29.257 we've got real bonfires of the vanities going on in Washington, 0:44:29.337 --> 0:44:34.057 DC right now. We've got we've got neighborhoods, predominantly black neighborhoods, 0:44:34.057 --> 0:44:36.777 by the way, which are being totally left to rack 0:44:36.857 --> 0:44:39.737 and ruin by a black mayor of Washington, d C. 0:44:40.217 --> 0:44:42.697 But nobody's telling those stories for the sake of history. 0:44:42.937 --> 0:44:45.137 Nobody's telling them for the sake of the next generation 0:44:45.257 --> 0:44:47.737 learning from the mistakes. And so that is the thing 0:44:47.777 --> 0:44:52.297 that really really baffles me constantly, how we are not 0:44:52.377 --> 0:44:55.257 better at this yet. So, for example, because I think 0:44:55.297 --> 0:44:56.817 this comes up a lot on the right in the 0:44:56.897 --> 0:45:00.697 context of how is it that we thought the outcome 0:45:00.737 --> 0:45:04.297 here would be any different when we've been playing for 0:45:04.457 --> 0:45:07.177 this make believe neutral space in a lot of institutions 0:45:07.177 --> 0:45:11.177 for a long time, and for example, even in classrooms, 0:45:11.217 --> 0:45:14.097 they'll say, oh, well, there you're pushing your right wing 0:45:14.177 --> 0:45:17.497 conservative values. Someone's values are going to be in the classroom. 0:45:17.537 --> 0:45:19.337 I think the right has at least woken up to 0:45:19.377 --> 0:45:24.697 that reality because of you know, transgender drag, Queen Story Hour, 0:45:24.777 --> 0:45:27.337 and all these things that have become and CRT, which 0:45:27.377 --> 0:45:31.897 is explicitly in many context anti white, explicitly racist in 0:45:31.937 --> 0:45:35.457 the way that it's presented in classrooms. People have realized 0:45:35.497 --> 0:45:37.297 that there's not this oh, we're just gonna have neutral space, 0:45:37.417 --> 0:45:39.697 neutral space. When you have a left wing that says 0:45:39.777 --> 0:45:43.697 that you know, algebra and higher math class being taught 0:45:43.737 --> 0:45:47.217 as racist, you're going to you have to address the 0:45:47.217 --> 0:45:49.217 battle as it is and not as you wish it were. 0:45:50.257 --> 0:45:52.977 So there are some places colleges, universities, for example Rheim, 0:45:53.017 --> 0:45:57.377 that the the left will not allow there to be 0:45:58.057 --> 0:46:01.937 any who do not think like them, but given the 0:46:01.977 --> 0:46:04.617 creative areas right, So, you know, if you're in the 0:46:04.617 --> 0:46:08.057 political science department at a lot of different universities, you're 0:46:08.057 --> 0:46:10.257 never going to get hired as an associate professor. You're 0:46:10.257 --> 0:46:12.257 never going to get tenure for sure if you're a conservative. 0:46:12.457 --> 0:46:14.297 So they operate at like a country club that won't 0:46:14.337 --> 0:46:17.737 allow in the you know, the undesirables, the conservatives in 0:46:17.817 --> 0:46:20.937 the creative side. Though, why don't we have? You berentioned 0:46:20.977 --> 0:46:22.697 Tom Wolf? By the way, Bonfire the Vanity is one 0:46:22.697 --> 0:46:24.457 of my favorite novels of all time. Took place in 0:46:24.457 --> 0:46:26.057 the Upper East Side where I grew up, and I 0:46:26.057 --> 0:46:27.737 read Tom Wolf when I was in the eighth grade. 0:46:27.857 --> 0:46:31.257 I've read that book in the eighth grade. Why don't 0:46:31.257 --> 0:46:34.417 we produce great novels? Why don't we have It's amazing? 0:46:34.417 --> 0:46:36.497 People will say that show is conservative, or people will 0:46:36.537 --> 0:46:39.777 say The Top Gun Maverick is conservative. I say it's 0:46:39.817 --> 0:46:42.777 not conservative. It's just a movie the way movies used 0:46:42.777 --> 0:46:45.977 to be entertaining, good guys, bad guys, and not a 0:46:45.977 --> 0:46:49.697 lot of radical political theory thrown in there. Why can't 0:46:49.697 --> 0:46:51.737 we Why aren't we capable? It seems of doing more 0:46:51.777 --> 0:46:54.657 of that? Are we capable of doing more of that? Yeah? 0:46:54.737 --> 0:46:58.657 And it's like every single time a left wing celebrity 0:46:59.217 --> 0:47:02.257 or journalist comes out on our side just a little bit, 0:47:02.497 --> 0:47:05.737 we all go nuts and hand them the football and say, right, 0:47:05.857 --> 0:47:10.617 you're you're the quarterback now. Whether it's whether it's Wise 0:47:10.737 --> 0:47:13.897 or Ricky Gervais or or you're on Musk or whatever. 0:47:14.097 --> 0:47:16.337 You know, we we we leave the people who have 0:47:16.417 --> 0:47:19.177 been fighting on our side, and we hand the ball 0:47:19.217 --> 0:47:22.217 and the control of the game over to somebody very 0:47:22.257 --> 0:47:24.537 recently on our side. And then and then when they 0:47:24.537 --> 0:47:26.257 when they turn an ass or when they you know, 0:47:26.297 --> 0:47:29.297 express that they weren't quite signed up for the entire thing, 0:47:29.377 --> 0:47:32.017 then we go, oh my goodness. Some of us were 0:47:32.017 --> 0:47:36.617 warning about about the Kanye situation before Kanye went totally 0:47:36.897 --> 0:47:40.937 you know, whacko. Right, and and and here's look, here's 0:47:40.977 --> 0:47:45.497 a message to people who because it's Jermaine to your question, 0:47:45.937 --> 0:47:48.377 is not you and I I mean, we we do 0:47:48.417 --> 0:47:50.777 this on a daily basis, right, We are literally creating 0:47:50.817 --> 0:47:54.137 content every single day that millions of people see. But 0:47:54.137 --> 0:47:58.017 but there's there's a lot more to the conservative cultural 0:47:58.137 --> 0:48:02.737 movement than the podcast. As the talking Heads the political strategists, 0:48:02.777 --> 0:48:07.257 all of that. It actually really behooves the ordinary American 0:48:07.337 --> 0:48:11.737 to step into this space, because only you, who is 0:48:11.777 --> 0:48:14.057 not living in DC, who is not living in New York, 0:48:14.097 --> 0:48:16.297 who is not living in Miami, who is not living 0:48:16.297 --> 0:48:20.137 in these big cities, can talk about the experiences that 0:48:20.177 --> 0:48:24.697 you're having in your states, in your counties, in your towns, 0:48:24.777 --> 0:48:27.177 in your villages, in your you know, I don't care 0:48:27.377 --> 0:48:30.737 whether you live in a in a relatively new suburban district, 0:48:30.937 --> 0:48:34.057 whether you live in a you in the desert. If 0:48:34.057 --> 0:48:37.817 you're not putting pen to paper and memorializing the experiences 0:48:37.857 --> 0:48:40.377 that you're having, then why do you suppose that anybody 0:48:40.377 --> 0:48:43.817 will do that for you? Right? And here's the thing, 0:48:43.937 --> 0:48:47.777 a lot of those people, we're not great writers, they 0:48:47.777 --> 0:48:50.657 were not great thinkers. What they were able to do 0:48:50.737 --> 0:48:53.057 is observe the world around them and just write enough 0:48:53.497 --> 0:48:56.737 down so that somebody somewhere could pick over it at 0:48:56.737 --> 0:48:59.297 some point in the future and go, ah, this is 0:48:59.297 --> 0:49:02.017 what was going on in these areas. It wasn't all Biden, 0:49:02.057 --> 0:49:04.377 and it wasn't all LGBT, and it wasn't all this. 0:49:04.737 --> 0:49:06.737 We need historians to be able to see that stuff. 0:49:06.737 --> 0:49:10.457 And it is completely completely on the shoulders of ordinary 0:49:10.497 --> 0:49:12.377 Americans to make sure that that stuff stays in the 0:49:12.417 --> 0:49:18.617 historical record. The second part of this is, Um, you 0:49:18.737 --> 0:49:22.057 talked about the somebody's values is going to be in 0:49:22.097 --> 0:49:25.177 the classroom, right, and that and that's so called that 0:49:25.257 --> 0:49:28.497 fake neutral space. Well, that fake neutral space comes from 0:49:28.737 --> 0:49:32.057 comes from secularism, it comes from science, and it comes 0:49:32.097 --> 0:49:35.377 from the expert class. The expert class that we all 0:49:35.417 --> 0:49:38.457 know were the people behind COVID, were the people saying 0:49:38.457 --> 0:49:40.377 that there'll be a third World War if, if you know, 0:49:40.377 --> 0:49:42.817 Britain leaves the European Union. They're all saying that Donald 0:49:42.857 --> 0:49:45.337 Trump would would you know, accidentally press the nuclear button 0:49:45.377 --> 0:49:48.057 instead of the diet coke Buttonum, these are the people 0:49:48.097 --> 0:49:52.177 who need challenging and we should you know, the you 0:49:52.217 --> 0:49:54.937 know the Chad meme where it's just you know, the 0:49:55.017 --> 0:49:59.217 guy and he just says, you know, yes, that's it. Yes. Well, 0:49:59.257 --> 0:50:02.497 when the left accuses us of oh, well you just 0:50:02.537 --> 0:50:05.857 want your philosophy in the classrooms, yes, oh you just 0:50:05.937 --> 0:50:10.817 want you know, anti abortion measures, Yes, you just don't 0:50:10.817 --> 0:50:13.257 want me you know, a man dressed up in a 0:50:13.297 --> 0:50:16.857 skirt going into the girl's locker room, Yes, you know 0:50:17.177 --> 0:50:20.057 those are the answers. It's you don't have to equivocate 0:50:20.097 --> 0:50:22.137 about those things. And we spend too much time equivocating. 0:50:22.297 --> 0:50:24.377 We want to be liked too much. Forget about it. 0:50:24.417 --> 0:50:25.697 We're not going to be liked by the other side. 0:50:25.737 --> 0:50:28.537 You're gonna be liked by your own side. I think 0:50:28.897 --> 0:50:31.697 personally that I am going to use twenty twenty three 0:50:31.697 --> 0:50:34.577 to write more than I've ever written before because there 0:50:34.577 --> 0:50:36.577 are so many things going on out there. I am 0:50:36.577 --> 0:50:38.937 going to do a tour of the United States and 0:50:39.257 --> 0:50:42.777 document in documentary format what is going on out there 0:50:42.817 --> 0:50:46.177 in the real United States, because very few people are 0:50:46.217 --> 0:50:49.217 telling the stories of ordinary Americans, and I think these 0:50:49.257 --> 0:50:52.337 are the times especially that those stories need to be told. 0:50:53.097 --> 0:50:56.337 And and you know, history is not written by the victors. 0:50:56.777 --> 0:50:59.577 History is written by those who bother to write it. 0:51:00.017 --> 0:51:03.617 So let's write it. Raheim Kasalm, everybody check out the 0:51:03.697 --> 0:51:07.017 Raheem Kassam podcast and also go to the National Pulse 0:51:07.097 --> 0:51:10.737 and keep an eye out for all these projects. As Raheem, 0:51:10.777 --> 0:51:12.897 you're promising some cool stuff that people are going to 0:51:12.937 --> 0:51:15.497 be looking for it. So thank you, my friend, for 0:51:15.937 --> 0:51:18.097 coming and hanging out. And we'll have to do like 0:51:18.137 --> 0:51:21.817 a podcast after dark session at some point with some booze, 0:51:22.177 --> 0:51:25.217 some lifestyle tips. What's the one what is the one 0:51:25.257 --> 0:51:29.137 thing raheem that the American that American men listening to this, 0:51:29.537 --> 0:51:31.217 if you could get them to either do more of 0:51:31.417 --> 0:51:34.897 or less of one thing, what would it be? Well, 0:51:35.017 --> 0:51:38.097 you know, every year is dry January for me, and 0:51:38.097 --> 0:51:41.377 it's it's a real it's it's a hardship for thirty 0:51:41.417 --> 0:51:43.857 one days. Um, and I'm going through that. It's the 0:51:43.897 --> 0:51:45.537 tail end of it right now. I'm going through it. 0:51:45.897 --> 0:51:49.857 But you know, for me, I've undertaken a lot of 0:51:49.857 --> 0:51:51.817 different things in the last couple of years. I was 0:51:51.857 --> 0:51:54.937 I was about forty pounds heavier, um, not but twenty 0:51:54.937 --> 0:51:58.297 four months ago. Um, I've I've lost all that way. 0:51:58.377 --> 0:52:01.497 I've changed a lot of the things in my life. Um. Honestly, 0:52:01.537 --> 0:52:04.137 the things that that's made the world of difference to 0:52:04.177 --> 0:52:09.137 me from a from a physical perspective is deadlifting, running 0:52:09.177 --> 0:52:12.497 and the stem masta quite frankly that it sort of 0:52:12.497 --> 0:52:14.457 shed all of the weight for me. And the other 0:52:14.497 --> 0:52:16.937 part of it for me is um, you know, I've 0:52:17.097 --> 0:52:19.817 very much switched. I used to be a seven eight 0:52:20.017 --> 0:52:22.257 nine points of beer and night kind of guy. You know, 0:52:22.297 --> 0:52:25.017 no dinner. It was just beer for me, and I've 0:52:25.137 --> 0:52:29.017 very much switched that out from martinis a little bit 0:52:29.017 --> 0:52:33.137 more sophisticated, a little you can you can drink fewer 0:52:33.217 --> 0:52:35.537 of them, and still you know, have that little buzz. 0:52:36.337 --> 0:52:40.977 I actually think they are far better a measure of 0:52:40.977 --> 0:52:43.377 a man than a than a than a cous light 0:52:43.577 --> 0:52:46.137 as well. And then the other thing is ignore the 0:52:46.217 --> 0:52:49.377 advice from the nutrition experts who are trying to get 0:52:49.377 --> 0:52:51.937 you to eat crickets and all of that nonsense. The 0:52:52.017 --> 0:52:55.537 best breakfast you can have is steaking eggs, and frankly, 0:52:55.577 --> 0:52:57.737 the best every meal you can have your steak and eggs. 0:52:57.857 --> 0:53:01.257 So get on that trade. I actually totally agree. So 0:53:01.297 --> 0:53:03.417 there you go, everybody. Raheem my friend, thanks for being 0:53:03.457 --> 0:53:05.057 with us, thanks for giving us your time, and we'll 0:53:05.057 --> 0:53:07.257 have you back soon. Just thank you. Puck