1 00:00:11,657 --> 00:00:14,937 Speaker 1: You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,937 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:17,977 --> 00:00:21,377 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, Welcome to another 4 00:00:21,417 --> 00:00:26,417 Speaker 1: episode of The Buck Sexton Show with me now, the indefatigable, 5 00:00:27,137 --> 00:00:31,977 Speaker 1: the formidable, the one and only Raheim Kassam. He is 6 00:00:32,017 --> 00:00:34,377 Speaker 1: the editor in chief of the National Pulse and the 7 00:00:34,377 --> 00:00:37,897 Speaker 1: host of Raheim Kassam Podcast, a man whose knowledge and 8 00:00:37,937 --> 00:00:41,737 Speaker 1: talents spans from global affairs all the way down to 9 00:00:41,817 --> 00:00:46,097 Speaker 1: the proper way to tie a windsor not. Mister Raheem Kassam, 10 00:00:46,217 --> 00:00:50,177 Speaker 1: good to have you answer. What an introduction, and not 11 00:00:50,337 --> 00:00:55,137 Speaker 1: least because you know, from a very arcane perspective, indefatigable 12 00:00:55,377 --> 00:00:59,777 Speaker 1: is how the British parliamentarian George Galloway of the far 13 00:00:59,977 --> 00:01:05,697 Speaker 1: left once described Saddam Hussein. So I'm delighted. I think 14 00:01:05,697 --> 00:01:09,017 Speaker 1: the word existed and was used in many other contexts 15 00:01:09,017 --> 00:01:11,857 Speaker 1: for a long time, like isn't there like an hms 16 00:01:11,937 --> 00:01:14,977 Speaker 1: indefatigable or maybe it's a long once or maybe that's 17 00:01:14,977 --> 00:01:17,497 Speaker 1: a bit probably too long to to paint on the 18 00:01:17,537 --> 00:01:21,137 Speaker 1: side of of a boat of a battleship. But raheem. 19 00:01:21,217 --> 00:01:23,697 Speaker 1: You know, we've been doing these conversations and the audience 20 00:01:23,697 --> 00:01:26,777 Speaker 1: response has been great because we're just getting really interesting 21 00:01:26,777 --> 00:01:29,497 Speaker 1: people on to talk about whatever is top of mind. 22 00:01:29,657 --> 00:01:31,937 Speaker 1: So one way I I like to start is just 23 00:01:31,977 --> 00:01:35,377 Speaker 1: to get you to tell me right now what in 24 00:01:35,417 --> 00:01:37,737 Speaker 1: the world of politics. We're going to cover a whole 25 00:01:37,777 --> 00:01:39,337 Speaker 1: range of things here. One of the world of politics 26 00:01:39,377 --> 00:01:42,177 Speaker 1: gets you the most fired up, like what are you 27 00:01:42,257 --> 00:01:48,777 Speaker 1: focused on? I don't know about focus. M That's a 28 00:01:48,817 --> 00:01:51,657 Speaker 1: word that escapes me. I'm kind of a scatter brain 29 00:01:51,897 --> 00:01:56,857 Speaker 1: in politics. It's like books as well. I'm reading fifty 30 00:01:56,897 --> 00:01:59,457 Speaker 1: at a time and I never finished any of them. 31 00:01:59,497 --> 00:02:02,337 Speaker 1: But something that has occurred to me, you know, there 32 00:02:02,377 --> 00:02:04,377 Speaker 1: are several things that have occurred to me a lot recently, 33 00:02:04,537 --> 00:02:08,177 Speaker 1: especially in you know, with the Biden classified documents thing 34 00:02:08,697 --> 00:02:12,977 Speaker 1: going on in the background, is that is that like 35 00:02:13,257 --> 00:02:17,217 Speaker 1: I still can't put my finger on who got Biden elected, right, 36 00:02:17,257 --> 00:02:19,577 Speaker 1: and that and that bothers me as a as a 37 00:02:19,577 --> 00:02:22,377 Speaker 1: as a point, like when you look at Trump, people 38 00:02:22,417 --> 00:02:25,977 Speaker 1: say Bannon. You look at Obama, people say Jim Messner 39 00:02:26,097 --> 00:02:30,257 Speaker 1: and David Plath and David Axel, Rod Bush, Karl Rove. 40 00:02:30,497 --> 00:02:33,697 Speaker 1: But there isn't one in Biden world, and I that 41 00:02:33,737 --> 00:02:36,577 Speaker 1: bothers me because of you know, so many different things, 42 00:02:36,577 --> 00:02:39,497 Speaker 1: so many different big question marks that were over the 43 00:02:39,577 --> 00:02:42,257 Speaker 1: twenty twenty election in general. But for there not to 44 00:02:42,297 --> 00:02:45,177 Speaker 1: be somebody out there doing ted talks and being on 45 00:02:45,217 --> 00:02:48,657 Speaker 1: the front cover of Time magazine being called the you know, 46 00:02:48,937 --> 00:02:52,177 Speaker 1: the man who got the most votes for a presidential 47 00:02:52,217 --> 00:02:56,497 Speaker 1: candidate in American history is a pretty big thing that 48 00:02:56,537 --> 00:02:59,777 Speaker 1: you want to claim and and you know, a big, 49 00:02:59,817 --> 00:03:02,017 Speaker 1: big medallion that you want to wear around your neck, 50 00:03:02,577 --> 00:03:04,977 Speaker 1: but nobody seems to want to claim it, and that 51 00:03:05,017 --> 00:03:08,537 Speaker 1: bothers me. Yeah, well, there's certainly something going on right 52 00:03:08,577 --> 00:03:11,017 Speaker 1: now with his if a staff is on the way 53 00:03:11,057 --> 00:03:13,377 Speaker 1: out there. There have just been the news reports about 54 00:03:13,417 --> 00:03:16,697 Speaker 1: that that you're not gonna have ron Klain anymore because 55 00:03:16,697 --> 00:03:20,137 Speaker 1: people have been It's really, i think, in an addendum 56 00:03:20,177 --> 00:03:23,617 Speaker 1: in many ways to your to your point here, which 57 00:03:23,697 --> 00:03:26,737 Speaker 1: is not only who's respect who's responsible for getting him elected, 58 00:03:27,177 --> 00:03:31,377 Speaker 1: but who is the person who's really calling the shots, 59 00:03:31,377 --> 00:03:33,777 Speaker 1: who's really running things, you know, behind the scenes. A 60 00:03:33,777 --> 00:03:35,657 Speaker 1: lot of people, it said ron Klain, the White House 61 00:03:35,697 --> 00:03:38,857 Speaker 1: Chief of Staff now White House Chief of Staff, depending 62 00:03:38,897 --> 00:03:40,297 Speaker 1: on who it is I think can matter a lot 63 00:03:40,417 --> 00:03:43,097 Speaker 1: or a little for an administration. Uh does any even 64 00:03:43,137 --> 00:03:46,257 Speaker 1: really remember the Trump White House chiefs of staff? I 65 00:03:46,417 --> 00:03:48,657 Speaker 1: don't think that, you know, No one said, oh my gosh, 66 00:03:48,737 --> 00:03:52,497 Speaker 1: the days of Ryan's previous and uh and the you 67 00:03:52,537 --> 00:03:55,017 Speaker 1: know the guy with the Irish name, who was you 68 00:03:55,057 --> 00:04:00,337 Speaker 1: know omb yeah, omb budget guy before that. Um, But 69 00:04:00,577 --> 00:04:02,417 Speaker 1: so you have Clain on the way out and this 70 00:04:02,497 --> 00:04:04,897 Speaker 1: guy's zigns, I'm not sure how to say his name 71 00:04:04,977 --> 00:04:08,337 Speaker 1: even who was the COVID czar that we never heard about? Really, 72 00:04:08,937 --> 00:04:11,577 Speaker 1: he's going to be taking over, So who actually calls 73 00:04:11,577 --> 00:04:13,737 Speaker 1: the sharks for Biden? As he's leaving all the classified 74 00:04:13,777 --> 00:04:16,697 Speaker 1: all of the place and looking like he's constantly confused 75 00:04:17,617 --> 00:04:20,737 Speaker 1: Barack Obama and Susan Rice. I mean that that's kind 76 00:04:20,737 --> 00:04:24,777 Speaker 1: of one of the least well kept secrets here in Washington, DC, 77 00:04:25,537 --> 00:04:28,457 Speaker 1: is that most of most of what this regime is 78 00:04:28,457 --> 00:04:35,377 Speaker 1: currently doing comes from his previous boss that I think 79 00:04:35,457 --> 00:04:37,057 Speaker 1: you know. And Susan Rice was one of the names 80 00:04:37,057 --> 00:04:38,817 Speaker 1: that was floated. Now they're saying it's going to be 81 00:04:38,897 --> 00:04:42,337 Speaker 1: Jeff Zience. Jeff Ziens, by the way, an important character 82 00:04:42,417 --> 00:04:45,297 Speaker 1: to note, not just because of his his you know, 83 00:04:45,337 --> 00:04:50,417 Speaker 1: World Economic Forum billionaire credentials, but also because of as 84 00:04:50,457 --> 00:04:54,417 Speaker 1: you say this, this covidsar who was a COVID ZAR, 85 00:04:54,577 --> 00:04:58,337 Speaker 1: but really quietly, and you have to understand this point 86 00:04:58,337 --> 00:05:02,377 Speaker 1: in time, in twenty twenty three, the United States is 87 00:05:02,417 --> 00:05:05,417 Speaker 1: still one of the only countries in the world that 88 00:05:05,577 --> 00:05:09,537 Speaker 1: doesn't allow non citizens in if they're not vaccinated. So 89 00:05:09,737 --> 00:05:13,657 Speaker 1: Zion is still doing the bidding of big COVID behind 90 00:05:13,697 --> 00:05:17,097 Speaker 1: the scenes, very quietly. And the fact that he's being 91 00:05:17,097 --> 00:05:20,817 Speaker 1: elevated now to this this prestige position in American politics 92 00:05:20,937 --> 00:05:22,937 Speaker 1: is honestly, it's like a It's like a path on 93 00:05:22,977 --> 00:05:24,977 Speaker 1: the back and a thank you for continuing to do 94 00:05:25,017 --> 00:05:28,057 Speaker 1: that on behalf of you know, big farmer, big government, 95 00:05:28,177 --> 00:05:29,937 Speaker 1: whatever you want to, you know, whatever you want to, 96 00:05:30,297 --> 00:05:35,577 Speaker 1: you know, daub the apparat human time, interrrational, reasonable world, 97 00:05:35,577 --> 00:05:37,937 Speaker 1: where heim shouldn't the guy who was the Covids are 98 00:05:38,377 --> 00:05:41,257 Speaker 1: who said that a winter of death was coming for 99 00:05:41,297 --> 00:05:44,297 Speaker 1: anybody who didn't get vaccinated. That's a quote that you 100 00:05:44,337 --> 00:05:46,817 Speaker 1: were going to overrun the hospitals if you didn't get vaccinated. 101 00:05:46,897 --> 00:05:50,017 Speaker 1: These were things that he was saying in twenty twenty one, 102 00:05:50,457 --> 00:05:52,777 Speaker 1: going into the winter period. You would think that he 103 00:05:52,777 --> 00:05:56,017 Speaker 1: should not only be fired, but honestly shamed and and 104 00:05:56,017 --> 00:06:01,057 Speaker 1: and removed ignominiously from the public square. And yet he's 105 00:06:01,097 --> 00:06:03,177 Speaker 1: now White House Chef of staff. It's a promotion which 106 00:06:03,177 --> 00:06:06,337 Speaker 1: I think says a lot about how the Democrat apparatus 107 00:06:06,857 --> 00:06:12,377 Speaker 1: views COVID, even at this stage. Yeah, but I'll go 108 00:06:12,457 --> 00:06:15,417 Speaker 1: you one further. I mean, you know, again, as I say, 109 00:06:15,457 --> 00:06:16,977 Speaker 1: this is a this is a slap on the back 110 00:06:17,017 --> 00:06:20,577 Speaker 1: for and well done, old boy for for doing that. 111 00:06:20,657 --> 00:06:24,337 Speaker 1: But is it's worse than that? Right in any rational world? 112 00:06:24,377 --> 00:06:27,217 Speaker 1: You said in any rational world, Well, in any rational world, 113 00:06:27,577 --> 00:06:31,257 Speaker 1: the the person who put together the original COVID task 114 00:06:31,337 --> 00:06:35,337 Speaker 1: force should be susceptible to class action lawsuits from all 115 00:06:35,377 --> 00:06:37,577 Speaker 1: the people who lost their businesses, all the people who 116 00:06:37,577 --> 00:06:39,857 Speaker 1: lost their loved ones as a result of all of that. 117 00:06:39,897 --> 00:06:42,457 Speaker 1: And that person was Mike Pence. So you know, there's 118 00:06:42,537 --> 00:06:46,057 Speaker 1: blame to go around on all sides on this, especially 119 00:06:46,057 --> 00:06:49,657 Speaker 1: for those who got the ball rolling at that, you know, 120 00:06:49,737 --> 00:06:52,777 Speaker 1: the opening days of COVID. Let me ask and Jeff Zience. 121 00:06:53,217 --> 00:06:55,737 Speaker 1: Just just to conclude on the Jeff Zions point, you know, 122 00:06:55,817 --> 00:07:00,697 Speaker 1: this for him is very much an opportunity to take 123 00:07:00,857 --> 00:07:06,377 Speaker 1: that kind of totalitarian mindset and run the Oval Office 124 00:07:06,417 --> 00:07:09,217 Speaker 1: with it. Yeah. No, absolutely. I mean it's it's like 125 00:07:09,337 --> 00:07:12,697 Speaker 1: they got there their trial run of communism and now 126 00:07:12,737 --> 00:07:15,897 Speaker 1: they're saying, oh, you're ready for the big leagues of 127 00:07:16,617 --> 00:07:20,097 Speaker 1: being a commie at the highest level. 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Even the stylus 155 00:08:48,857 --> 00:08:50,657 Speaker 1: Raheem Kassam is going to be a fan when I 156 00:08:50,697 --> 00:08:53,057 Speaker 1: get him some now, my friend on the Trump on 157 00:08:53,097 --> 00:08:58,097 Speaker 1: the Trump issue, do you think that Trump is running 158 00:08:58,097 --> 00:09:02,737 Speaker 1: into a real problem here with his base, with his people, 159 00:09:02,857 --> 00:09:07,937 Speaker 1: his voters, with the continued discussion of how great Operation 160 00:09:08,017 --> 00:09:10,857 Speaker 1: Warp Speed is. I mean, I heard him recently say 161 00:09:10,897 --> 00:09:14,297 Speaker 1: that the vaccine saved hundreds of millions of lives. I 162 00:09:14,377 --> 00:09:16,857 Speaker 1: have been a huge Trump supporter. I like the guy 163 00:09:16,977 --> 00:09:19,457 Speaker 1: very much personally. I think he did phenomenal things for 164 00:09:19,457 --> 00:09:22,857 Speaker 1: our country as president. The vaccine did not save hundreds 165 00:09:22,857 --> 00:09:25,177 Speaker 1: of millions of lives. So how do we deal with this? 166 00:09:25,337 --> 00:09:30,217 Speaker 1: What's going on? Yeah? So typically there has been one 167 00:09:30,417 --> 00:09:33,937 Speaker 1: critical area where you know, even Trump, even the most 168 00:09:34,177 --> 00:09:37,257 Speaker 1: ardent Trump supporters, will say, Okay, he has a he 169 00:09:37,297 --> 00:09:39,657 Speaker 1: has a blind spot on that. But given that it's 170 00:09:39,737 --> 00:09:42,497 Speaker 1: you know, his only massive blind spot, we're willing to 171 00:09:42,497 --> 00:09:45,457 Speaker 1: to not overlook it, but at least at least forgive 172 00:09:45,457 --> 00:09:48,177 Speaker 1: elements of it. And that was personnel, right, The personnel 173 00:09:48,257 --> 00:09:51,697 Speaker 1: choices that both the Trump administration made and the Trumper 174 00:09:51,777 --> 00:09:55,777 Speaker 1: operation as it has been since after its presidency, remain 175 00:09:56,497 --> 00:10:00,057 Speaker 1: curious to a lot of people. And again, most people 176 00:10:00,137 --> 00:10:02,577 Speaker 1: understand that when they when they choose somebody, when they 177 00:10:02,657 --> 00:10:04,897 Speaker 1: go to bat for somebody, when they put their eggs 178 00:10:04,937 --> 00:10:08,257 Speaker 1: in the basket of a presidential candidate, that they're not 179 00:10:08,817 --> 00:10:11,497 Speaker 1: looking for perfection. They're willing to say, you know, no 180 00:10:11,577 --> 00:10:14,297 Speaker 1: man is perfect, no woman is perfect. No candidate will 181 00:10:14,337 --> 00:10:18,137 Speaker 1: therefore be perfect. But in doing what he's been doing 182 00:10:18,177 --> 00:10:20,537 Speaker 1: over the last you know a couple of years now, 183 00:10:20,577 --> 00:10:24,617 Speaker 1: as it regards the big farmer vacciness, he's opening up 184 00:10:24,657 --> 00:10:29,057 Speaker 1: an unnecessary second weak spot as far as his base 185 00:10:29,177 --> 00:10:32,297 Speaker 1: is concerned, and there are major complaints about it now. 186 00:10:33,017 --> 00:10:35,697 Speaker 1: I do think, however, that a lot of people are 187 00:10:35,857 --> 00:10:39,937 Speaker 1: overestimating what that if impact is, and I think especially 188 00:10:40,017 --> 00:10:42,217 Speaker 1: a lot of people who want other candidates to be 189 00:10:42,257 --> 00:10:46,457 Speaker 1: the president Republican president next time around, are certainly overestimating 190 00:10:46,497 --> 00:10:48,497 Speaker 1: the impact of that. But you're right to say that 191 00:10:48,537 --> 00:10:51,057 Speaker 1: I don't think it's doing Trump any good at all, 192 00:10:51,097 --> 00:10:53,617 Speaker 1: and it is in fact putting off some of his supporters. 193 00:10:53,977 --> 00:10:57,377 Speaker 1: The important part of this actually is what Ron De 194 00:10:57,457 --> 00:11:01,257 Speaker 1: Santis himself did. Since I alluded to it, I'll say it, 195 00:11:01,857 --> 00:11:04,177 Speaker 1: which is a course correction. And there's no reason that 196 00:11:04,217 --> 00:11:06,977 Speaker 1: Donald Trump can't make a course correction on this as well. 197 00:11:07,217 --> 00:11:10,937 Speaker 1: Early days of of COVID, the governor of Florida was 198 00:11:10,977 --> 00:11:12,697 Speaker 1: doing very similar things to a lot of the other 199 00:11:12,777 --> 00:11:15,897 Speaker 1: the governors. But but you know, the end of the 200 00:11:15,977 --> 00:11:19,017 Speaker 1: thirty days to slow the spread, as a lot of 201 00:11:19,057 --> 00:11:20,897 Speaker 1: the rest of us did. And I hold my hand 202 00:11:20,937 --> 00:11:24,817 Speaker 1: up and say myself included here we course corrected, right. 203 00:11:24,897 --> 00:11:27,177 Speaker 1: We realized what this thing was being used for. We 204 00:11:27,297 --> 00:11:30,737 Speaker 1: realized that, you know, European countries may want to do this, 205 00:11:30,937 --> 00:11:33,537 Speaker 1: the Chinese may certainly want to do this, but frankly, 206 00:11:33,537 --> 00:11:37,137 Speaker 1: it's not the American way. And you know, RDS to 207 00:11:37,177 --> 00:11:44,177 Speaker 1: his credit course corrected. People with any level of I 208 00:11:44,257 --> 00:11:48,057 Speaker 1: might vote Trump next time around, will still forgive him 209 00:11:48,137 --> 00:11:50,417 Speaker 1: if he course corrects on this, and he's going to 210 00:11:50,497 --> 00:11:52,857 Speaker 1: have to. We all know he's going to We all 211 00:11:52,897 --> 00:11:55,057 Speaker 1: know he's going to turn around at some point and say, look, 212 00:11:55,417 --> 00:11:57,337 Speaker 1: I did what I was told was that it was 213 00:11:57,377 --> 00:11:59,937 Speaker 1: in the interest of the public. It was the time 214 00:12:00,017 --> 00:12:03,177 Speaker 1: when my administration came together the best. We delivered the 215 00:12:03,177 --> 00:12:05,657 Speaker 1: things that were expected to be delivered of us, even 216 00:12:05,657 --> 00:12:07,577 Speaker 1: though people said we weren't able to do it. We 217 00:12:07,617 --> 00:12:11,657 Speaker 1: then saw collusion even between the health industry and pharmaceutical 218 00:12:11,657 --> 00:12:14,977 Speaker 1: lobby to delay the rollout of the vaccine itself. And 219 00:12:15,057 --> 00:12:18,177 Speaker 1: yet I still get no credit. Well, you know, that's 220 00:12:18,217 --> 00:12:19,697 Speaker 1: all well and good, but he's going to come out. 221 00:12:19,817 --> 00:12:21,337 Speaker 1: He's gonna have to come out, and I think he 222 00:12:21,337 --> 00:12:23,377 Speaker 1: will come out at some point and say, you know, 223 00:12:23,417 --> 00:12:25,177 Speaker 1: well I was tricked just like the rest of you. 224 00:12:25,537 --> 00:12:28,697 Speaker 1: Where do you come down at this point on the 225 00:12:28,777 --> 00:12:32,177 Speaker 1: looming showdown that you know, everyone is expecting Trump and 226 00:12:32,217 --> 00:12:36,337 Speaker 1: de Santis in a primary. Now I know Trump has announced, 227 00:12:36,337 --> 00:12:39,537 Speaker 1: de Santis has not, who knows. I'm a big proponent 228 00:12:39,577 --> 00:12:41,737 Speaker 1: of saying nobody can predict the future, and all you 229 00:12:41,777 --> 00:12:43,617 Speaker 1: can do is look back at people's predictions, and you 230 00:12:43,697 --> 00:12:45,817 Speaker 1: know that nobody can predict the future. They can get 231 00:12:45,817 --> 00:12:48,617 Speaker 1: it right. They can get binaries meaning a yes or 232 00:12:48,657 --> 00:12:51,497 Speaker 1: no or you know, A or B right about fifty 233 00:12:51,497 --> 00:12:54,217 Speaker 1: percent of the time, which makes sense, right, people will 234 00:12:54,257 --> 00:12:56,857 Speaker 1: get it as often as they don't when they're trying 235 00:12:56,897 --> 00:13:00,177 Speaker 1: to predict events for the most part. That all said, 236 00:13:00,217 --> 00:13:03,377 Speaker 1: with all that throat clearing in place, are you already 237 00:13:03,457 --> 00:13:05,897 Speaker 1: determined that it's one or the other in terms of 238 00:13:05,937 --> 00:13:07,897 Speaker 1: what you think is best for the Republican Party or 239 00:13:07,897 --> 00:13:12,617 Speaker 1: are you in wait and see mode? Yeah? I feel 240 00:13:12,657 --> 00:13:15,457 Speaker 1: like the zen Master. You know, It's that It's that 241 00:13:15,737 --> 00:13:20,137 Speaker 1: moment from Charlie Wilson's War. You know, the zen Master says, 242 00:13:20,137 --> 00:13:23,857 Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see. But but you know, the foundation 243 00:13:23,937 --> 00:13:27,617 Speaker 1: is clearly obviously there for Rhonda Santists. It's there amongst 244 00:13:27,617 --> 00:13:30,377 Speaker 1: the people around him, it's there amongst the donor class 245 00:13:31,017 --> 00:13:33,057 Speaker 1: that have clearly said that they're on his side. It's 246 00:13:33,057 --> 00:13:35,857 Speaker 1: there in terms of a level of the grassroots support 247 00:13:35,937 --> 00:13:37,937 Speaker 1: now who say they want him to run. It's it's 248 00:13:38,017 --> 00:13:40,577 Speaker 1: it's visible to me that everything that you would want 249 00:13:40,657 --> 00:13:45,297 Speaker 1: in place for a presidential run, Rhonda Santist has seems 250 00:13:45,337 --> 00:13:47,017 Speaker 1: to have in place. Whether or not that's of his 251 00:13:47,137 --> 00:13:52,257 Speaker 1: doing is another concern there are. I'm currently reading a 252 00:13:52,257 --> 00:13:55,097 Speaker 1: book by Rhonda Santists. Not many people have read it 253 00:13:55,417 --> 00:13:57,657 Speaker 1: or even know that he wrote a book, but he did. 254 00:13:58,417 --> 00:14:00,977 Speaker 1: This was before he was a public figure at all, really, 255 00:14:01,377 --> 00:14:05,897 Speaker 1: and it was during the Obama administration. And he goes 256 00:14:05,937 --> 00:14:10,537 Speaker 1: into quite a lot of detail about constitutional law, the unders, 257 00:14:10,577 --> 00:14:13,937 Speaker 1: the federalist papers, and it's it's so clear that he's 258 00:14:13,937 --> 00:14:21,057 Speaker 1: a genuinely like brilliant constitutional mind that the writing is 259 00:14:21,137 --> 00:14:23,817 Speaker 1: excellent for somebody who hadn't written a book before. The 260 00:14:24,217 --> 00:14:28,257 Speaker 1: framing is excellent, The points he makes throughout the book 261 00:14:28,377 --> 00:14:31,697 Speaker 1: a point and not talking points, you know. And I 262 00:14:31,737 --> 00:14:33,617 Speaker 1: remember once interviewing him back and I think it was 263 00:14:33,617 --> 00:14:37,137 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen or sixteen, and saying to him at the time, look, 264 00:14:37,177 --> 00:14:38,737 Speaker 1: I hope you don't mind me saying, but I think 265 00:14:38,737 --> 00:14:42,737 Speaker 1: you've got it. You know, the look, the family, the experience, 266 00:14:42,897 --> 00:14:45,857 Speaker 1: the awards and the military, so on and so forth. 267 00:14:46,577 --> 00:14:51,737 Speaker 1: The problem I have here is almost like Trump as well, 268 00:14:52,017 --> 00:14:55,297 Speaker 1: is the people around him. I'm not sure that Ronda 269 00:14:55,377 --> 00:14:58,097 Speaker 1: Santis has a team around him that a lot of 270 00:14:58,097 --> 00:15:00,737 Speaker 1: people will find palatable. He certainly doesn't have a lot 271 00:15:00,777 --> 00:15:03,057 Speaker 1: of donuts, big donors that a lot of people will 272 00:15:03,057 --> 00:15:07,257 Speaker 1: find palatable. And so when I said in the last 273 00:15:07,457 --> 00:15:10,297 Speaker 1: conversation that we were having on the last topic about 274 00:15:10,337 --> 00:15:13,697 Speaker 1: what can be forgiven and what can't be I think 275 00:15:13,777 --> 00:15:16,417 Speaker 1: a lot of Republicans will air on the side if 276 00:15:16,417 --> 00:15:19,497 Speaker 1: it's between Trump and DeSantis, with better the devil you 277 00:15:19,537 --> 00:15:21,937 Speaker 1: know than the devil you know than the devil you don't. 278 00:15:22,457 --> 00:15:25,137 Speaker 1: And they will also be asking a lot of questions about, well, 279 00:15:25,177 --> 00:15:27,857 Speaker 1: you know, who is advising him on foreign policy? He's been, 280 00:15:27,897 --> 00:15:30,537 Speaker 1: he's saber rattled a lot on the Middle East and 281 00:15:30,617 --> 00:15:33,057 Speaker 1: Iran and Israel and all of these things. Is he 282 00:15:33,137 --> 00:15:36,737 Speaker 1: going to be another Bush? He will have as many 283 00:15:36,817 --> 00:15:40,137 Speaker 1: questions to answer on those debate stages as Donald Trump will, 284 00:15:40,377 --> 00:15:44,057 Speaker 1: and I think people should rejoice about that. I think 285 00:15:44,217 --> 00:15:50,497 Speaker 1: the Republican base deserves a full and rough and hard 286 00:15:50,537 --> 00:15:55,337 Speaker 1: and difficult primary because for two reasons, not just because 287 00:15:55,537 --> 00:15:58,577 Speaker 1: it allows for those arguments to be had and those 288 00:15:59,257 --> 00:16:02,057 Speaker 1: what might seem to be sort of niche issues to 289 00:16:02,097 --> 00:16:05,897 Speaker 1: come out, but also it trains that person up, whoever 290 00:16:06,217 --> 00:16:09,777 Speaker 1: you know, becomes the nominee, it trains them up for 291 00:16:10,097 --> 00:16:14,577 Speaker 1: the bigger occasions, the presidential debates, the campaign itself. And 292 00:16:14,697 --> 00:16:18,857 Speaker 1: I think if Trump lacked anything last time in his campaign, 293 00:16:19,217 --> 00:16:21,297 Speaker 1: it was that he didn't go through a primary, right, 294 00:16:21,337 --> 00:16:25,497 Speaker 1: he didn't get to warm up before the big fight. Yeah, 295 00:16:25,537 --> 00:16:28,097 Speaker 1: and if you're a boxer, if you're in any sport, 296 00:16:28,137 --> 00:16:30,297 Speaker 1: really you don't want to go out there for the 297 00:16:30,377 --> 00:16:34,217 Speaker 1: championship and not have actually done your thing for weeks 298 00:16:34,297 --> 00:16:36,617 Speaker 1: or even even months beforehand. So I can see. I 299 00:16:36,657 --> 00:16:39,057 Speaker 1: think you're right by the way that it's almost a 300 00:16:39,657 --> 00:16:43,137 Speaker 1: stone upon which the blade can be sharpened for any politician. 301 00:16:43,177 --> 00:16:44,937 Speaker 1: But on our side, we're certainly going to need that 302 00:16:45,257 --> 00:16:47,817 Speaker 1: given the media reality that we're up against. I want 303 00:16:47,817 --> 00:16:53,097 Speaker 1: to ask you about the royal family rahem, which I 304 00:16:53,137 --> 00:16:55,377 Speaker 1: will do in just a second in case anyone couldn't 305 00:16:55,377 --> 00:16:57,457 Speaker 1: figure it out from his accent, which I know many 306 00:16:57,497 --> 00:16:59,497 Speaker 1: of us are jealous of because it is super fancy 307 00:16:59,657 --> 00:17:01,897 Speaker 1: and adds a level of gravitass to everything that he says. 308 00:17:02,217 --> 00:17:04,897 Speaker 1: Raheem is from the United Kingdom, and I have some 309 00:17:04,977 --> 00:17:08,697 Speaker 1: questions about this. There's this book out, there's an obsession 310 00:17:08,737 --> 00:17:11,057 Speaker 1: in the media with the author of this book, and 311 00:17:11,657 --> 00:17:13,377 Speaker 1: what is this whole thing with monarchy. We're going to 312 00:17:13,417 --> 00:17:14,977 Speaker 1: talk about it in a second. 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Why why do people care so much? 347 00:18:49,857 --> 00:18:52,097 Speaker 1: Both in the UK and here at home about say, 348 00:18:52,737 --> 00:18:56,977 Speaker 1: the spare Prince Harry biography and the Meghan Markle back 349 00:18:56,977 --> 00:18:58,977 Speaker 1: and forth, all this stuff. I look at this and 350 00:18:59,017 --> 00:19:01,977 Speaker 1: I'm like, these are these are celebrities basically like this, 351 00:19:02,057 --> 00:19:04,577 Speaker 1: I might as well be watching, you know, the latest 352 00:19:05,417 --> 00:19:08,177 Speaker 1: on the Kardashians, you know who they're dating or something. 353 00:19:08,217 --> 00:19:10,977 Speaker 1: I just don't care. Am I missing something? Please explain 354 00:19:11,057 --> 00:19:14,537 Speaker 1: to me, because you actually come from Great Britain, Go ahead, 355 00:19:15,457 --> 00:19:18,177 Speaker 1: well I do, and I actually come from a historic 356 00:19:18,217 --> 00:19:22,617 Speaker 1: county called Middlesex. And I just saw that your your 357 00:19:22,657 --> 00:19:26,017 Speaker 1: American Giant hoodies are made in Middlesex, North Carolina, so 358 00:19:26,057 --> 00:19:31,217 Speaker 1: we have a we have a link there. I am 359 00:19:31,257 --> 00:19:35,017 Speaker 1: a monarchist, and I'm a proud one. I believe in 360 00:19:35,057 --> 00:19:38,497 Speaker 1: the institution of monarchy. I believe in having a part 361 00:19:38,777 --> 00:19:42,617 Speaker 1: of your government being there for the long haul, and 362 00:19:42,657 --> 00:19:46,257 Speaker 1: therefore having the nation's interests at heart, rather than re 363 00:19:46,417 --> 00:19:49,657 Speaker 1: election or fundraising or anything like that at heart. I 364 00:19:49,937 --> 00:19:53,337 Speaker 1: don't believe in a in a tyrannical or dictatorship. I 365 00:19:53,377 --> 00:19:56,297 Speaker 1: don't believe in a in a vast amount of executive 366 00:19:56,337 --> 00:20:00,217 Speaker 1: authority being vested in the crown. But there is a difference. 367 00:20:00,377 --> 00:20:03,457 Speaker 1: There is a difference between the crown, right, the monarchy 368 00:20:03,537 --> 00:20:06,297 Speaker 1: is an institution and the royal family. The royal family, 369 00:20:06,377 --> 00:20:09,697 Speaker 1: like you say, can become very much like watching reality 370 00:20:09,737 --> 00:20:12,537 Speaker 1: teller vision and and the tabloid papers love to make 371 00:20:12,577 --> 00:20:16,217 Speaker 1: it that right. Um, Megan Markel is really the reason 372 00:20:16,257 --> 00:20:18,337 Speaker 1: that we're having this conversation here, and I'll remind you 373 00:20:18,377 --> 00:20:20,897 Speaker 1: where she comes from and it is not the United Kingdom, 374 00:20:21,257 --> 00:20:23,737 Speaker 1: so so so thank you for that. And of course 375 00:20:23,737 --> 00:20:27,297 Speaker 1: the last big blow up that we had really I mean, 376 00:20:28,017 --> 00:20:30,817 Speaker 1: you know, if you exclude Diana from it in and 377 00:20:30,857 --> 00:20:34,377 Speaker 1: of herself, was you know Wallace Simpson another American who 378 00:20:34,377 --> 00:20:36,657 Speaker 1: got embroiled in the royal family and caused the king 379 00:20:36,697 --> 00:20:41,417 Speaker 1: to abdicate. This is blaming America for the British royal 380 00:20:41,497 --> 00:20:46,137 Speaker 1: families mess ups. Look at this. I will take responsibility 381 00:20:46,177 --> 00:20:49,497 Speaker 1: for Christopher Steele if you take responsibility for Megan Markle. 382 00:20:49,537 --> 00:20:53,577 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying, right, unbelievable, unbelievable. But so you 383 00:20:53,657 --> 00:20:57,457 Speaker 1: think that there is a role for it? Oh? Massive, 384 00:20:57,577 --> 00:20:59,777 Speaker 1: I mean massive, I mean this is this is actually 385 00:21:00,177 --> 00:21:02,857 Speaker 1: you asked me what you know what really sort of 386 00:21:03,017 --> 00:21:05,417 Speaker 1: is bugging me politically at the moment and maybe even 387 00:21:05,497 --> 00:21:07,537 Speaker 1: keeping me up at night a little bit. It is 388 00:21:07,537 --> 00:21:10,937 Speaker 1: the incoming constitutional vandalism that we were about to see 389 00:21:10,977 --> 00:21:13,897 Speaker 1: because the Labor Party, which is which is our left 390 00:21:13,897 --> 00:21:16,617 Speaker 1: wing party in the United Kingdom, looks like it's going 391 00:21:16,657 --> 00:21:19,057 Speaker 1: to take the reigns of government next time around after 392 00:21:19,097 --> 00:21:22,297 Speaker 1: there is an election, and they have promised to abolish 393 00:21:22,297 --> 00:21:25,577 Speaker 1: the House of Laws that is our upper chamber. They 394 00:21:25,617 --> 00:21:29,697 Speaker 1: will replace it with an elected Senate. And my position 395 00:21:29,737 --> 00:21:33,097 Speaker 1: on this is that what is the point of bicamerality, right, 396 00:21:33,177 --> 00:21:37,537 Speaker 1: two chambers in your congress, parliament, whatever, if they're both 397 00:21:37,617 --> 00:21:39,817 Speaker 1: chosen in the same way. I think you guys had 398 00:21:39,857 --> 00:21:43,217 Speaker 1: a constitutional amendment that reflected from number seventeen or something 399 00:21:43,257 --> 00:21:45,977 Speaker 1: like that that changed the nature of what your set, 400 00:21:46,057 --> 00:21:49,137 Speaker 1: how your Senate was chosen, and it basically ruined the Senate. 401 00:21:49,537 --> 00:21:52,257 Speaker 1: The Senate was never supposed to be just another democratic 402 00:21:52,297 --> 00:21:54,857 Speaker 1: body full of politicians, and they're going to do that 403 00:21:54,897 --> 00:21:56,857 Speaker 1: to our House of Lords. So here's the thing. So 404 00:21:56,937 --> 00:22:00,817 Speaker 1: we're going to have two democratic chambers in our parliament. 405 00:22:01,097 --> 00:22:04,377 Speaker 1: The executive branch in the United Kingdom is also chosen 406 00:22:04,457 --> 00:22:07,457 Speaker 1: from the parliament, and then you're basically saying there shouldn't 407 00:22:07,457 --> 00:22:10,257 Speaker 1: be a monarchy either, So at that point you've got 408 00:22:10,297 --> 00:22:13,377 Speaker 1: a tyranny of the majority system. It doesn't work. There 409 00:22:13,417 --> 00:22:16,937 Speaker 1: has to be something more than just politicians who push 410 00:22:17,017 --> 00:22:19,697 Speaker 1: that stuff around. And it's really interesting to me because 411 00:22:19,777 --> 00:22:22,617 Speaker 1: Kars Starmer Circus Starmer, who is the leader of the 412 00:22:22,697 --> 00:22:25,537 Speaker 1: Labor Party right now, who will become the prime minister 413 00:22:25,577 --> 00:22:28,977 Speaker 1: if the polls remain the same, went to Davos, went 414 00:22:29,017 --> 00:22:31,377 Speaker 1: to the World Economic Forum and he was asked by 415 00:22:31,697 --> 00:22:34,617 Speaker 1: a reporter, Emily Maitliss, if you had to choose between 416 00:22:34,657 --> 00:22:39,217 Speaker 1: Westminster and Davos, which would it be, And he said Davos, Well, 417 00:22:39,217 --> 00:22:42,497 Speaker 1: it's interesting, isn't it that he is the one that's 418 00:22:42,617 --> 00:22:47,057 Speaker 1: charging head first with constitutional vandalism and at the same 419 00:22:47,097 --> 00:22:50,777 Speaker 1: time he thinks the unelected other way to get things done. 420 00:22:50,817 --> 00:22:53,777 Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't hold. The argument doesn't hold. And 421 00:22:53,817 --> 00:22:57,457 Speaker 1: so I think you do need somebody who has the 422 00:22:57,497 --> 00:23:00,297 Speaker 1: long term interest in the nation at heart. So even 423 00:23:00,377 --> 00:23:02,497 Speaker 1: if they don't have real power, right like it's a 424 00:23:02,537 --> 00:23:05,897 Speaker 1: symbolism that's supposed to be. I don't even know what 425 00:23:05,937 --> 00:23:12,417 Speaker 1: authority is dilvested in the monarch. Well, the very It's 426 00:23:12,417 --> 00:23:15,857 Speaker 1: interesting because in my book Enoch was right. I talk 427 00:23:15,937 --> 00:23:18,897 Speaker 1: about this right in nineteen forty eight, when the Canadians 428 00:23:18,897 --> 00:23:22,777 Speaker 1: effectively created their own form of nationality and said we're 429 00:23:22,777 --> 00:23:27,337 Speaker 1: not subjects anymore, we have Canadian citizenship. It changed everything 430 00:23:27,617 --> 00:23:30,817 Speaker 1: for the entire British Empire. And so we went from 431 00:23:30,857 --> 00:23:33,977 Speaker 1: subjects to citizens within the same period of time. But 432 00:23:34,337 --> 00:23:37,177 Speaker 1: what are you citizens off is the question? Because of 433 00:23:37,217 --> 00:23:39,737 Speaker 1: course we have England, we have Wales, we have Northern Ireland, 434 00:23:39,777 --> 00:23:42,897 Speaker 1: we have Scotland. Several of those make up Great Britain. 435 00:23:42,977 --> 00:23:45,417 Speaker 1: Several more of those together make up the United Kingdom. 436 00:23:45,577 --> 00:23:49,177 Speaker 1: You know, we have this kind of grand union of 437 00:23:49,457 --> 00:23:55,137 Speaker 1: different countries and entities that voluntarily come together, much like 438 00:23:55,217 --> 00:23:57,977 Speaker 1: your states. Right, And they say, okay, we are going 439 00:23:58,017 --> 00:24:01,777 Speaker 1: to vest our power in the nation, but what is 440 00:24:01,777 --> 00:24:05,137 Speaker 1: the nation? Well, the nation has to be more than 441 00:24:05,177 --> 00:24:08,057 Speaker 1: the sum of its politicians, right, It can't just be 442 00:24:08,857 --> 00:24:11,737 Speaker 1: some tech that are scribbled down. Because you know, you 443 00:24:11,777 --> 00:24:14,417 Speaker 1: have a constitution. Remember we don't have a written constitution. 444 00:24:14,457 --> 00:24:18,297 Speaker 1: We have an evolving constitution. Right. Our primary law is 445 00:24:18,337 --> 00:24:21,497 Speaker 1: our constitution. It's it's it's it gets very complicated, but 446 00:24:21,537 --> 00:24:24,697 Speaker 1: it's not dull. I assure you that I know, a 447 00:24:24,777 --> 00:24:26,977 Speaker 1: lot of people get sort of think, oh, you know, 448 00:24:27,017 --> 00:24:29,217 Speaker 1: what do I know about constitutional you know, import and 449 00:24:29,257 --> 00:24:31,617 Speaker 1: all of this stuff as it relates to politics. It's everything. 450 00:24:31,777 --> 00:24:34,537 Speaker 1: If you don't understand the way your country works, then 451 00:24:34,537 --> 00:24:37,537 Speaker 1: you can't really complain about how it works. And at 452 00:24:37,577 --> 00:24:40,257 Speaker 1: the end of all of the all of the questions 453 00:24:40,257 --> 00:24:43,977 Speaker 1: that are raised about what makes Britain Britain is the crown, 454 00:24:44,297 --> 00:24:47,857 Speaker 1: because the crown is the connection between the nation and God. 455 00:24:48,337 --> 00:24:52,737 Speaker 1: That's why, as you'll see when Charles is crowned, if 456 00:24:52,817 --> 00:24:56,537 Speaker 1: formally that they will touch his head with anointing oil, 457 00:24:56,937 --> 00:24:58,737 Speaker 1: and that is the head of the Church of mind. 458 00:24:58,977 --> 00:25:01,097 Speaker 1: Isn't the crown that the head of the Church of England. 459 00:25:01,137 --> 00:25:04,497 Speaker 1: Technically that's that's how this that is what signifies, which 460 00:25:04,497 --> 00:25:07,697 Speaker 1: I think not the man that really has the power 461 00:25:08,217 --> 00:25:11,777 Speaker 1: is Big Odds that has the power. I think Hitchens. Hitchens, 462 00:25:11,777 --> 00:25:14,777 Speaker 1: who was just a poor man's raheem becausam Christopher Hitchins 463 00:25:14,817 --> 00:25:18,057 Speaker 1: used to say that, yes, the Church of England built 464 00:25:18,097 --> 00:25:20,417 Speaker 1: on the family values of Henry the Eighth, which I 465 00:25:20,457 --> 00:25:24,217 Speaker 1: think it's pretty funny, but anyway, it was a Hitchens line. Um. 466 00:25:24,257 --> 00:25:27,897 Speaker 1: But yes, back to back to the Crown. By the way, 467 00:25:27,937 --> 00:25:31,817 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that Christopher Hitchins can can can wax 468 00:25:32,057 --> 00:25:36,537 Speaker 1: moral um about anybody else's exploits. Well, he's certainly not 469 00:25:36,577 --> 00:25:39,897 Speaker 1: here anymore to defend himself, so there's that. But but 470 00:25:40,017 --> 00:25:43,897 Speaker 1: tell me this, um uh, Well, I was actually gonna 471 00:25:43,897 --> 00:25:45,337 Speaker 1: ask you something kind of silly for a second, just 472 00:25:45,377 --> 00:25:47,577 Speaker 1: to take us in a different direction. Do you do 473 00:25:47,617 --> 00:25:50,697 Speaker 1: you watch The Crown like every because I tried to 474 00:25:50,737 --> 00:25:52,777 Speaker 1: fight it as long as I can. But you know, 475 00:25:52,857 --> 00:25:55,457 Speaker 1: you have a girlfriend, I have a fiance. The ladies 476 00:25:55,497 --> 00:25:57,697 Speaker 1: love that show man. I don't know. I couldn't fight 477 00:25:57,737 --> 00:25:59,297 Speaker 1: it off anymore. I was like, all right, fine, honey, 478 00:25:59,297 --> 00:26:01,937 Speaker 1: we'll watch The Crown. And it's pretty engrossing for what 479 00:26:01,977 --> 00:26:06,937 Speaker 1: it is. Yeah. Actually, my girlfriend doesn't like the Crown, 480 00:26:07,217 --> 00:26:11,217 Speaker 1: and I think it calls She's just like a very 481 00:26:11,337 --> 00:26:16,657 Speaker 1: red blooded American patriot and finds it all very stuffy 482 00:26:16,697 --> 00:26:20,137 Speaker 1: and boring. And he did fight a war elevant not 483 00:26:20,297 --> 00:26:22,417 Speaker 1: that long ago, so we would pretty much never have 484 00:26:22,497 --> 00:26:25,257 Speaker 1: to pay any attention to that royal family ever. Again 485 00:26:25,297 --> 00:26:28,097 Speaker 1: here that that is the thing. So for Americans. That's 486 00:26:28,177 --> 00:26:29,897 Speaker 1: why I ask you, as a brit why do you 487 00:26:29,977 --> 00:26:32,097 Speaker 1: care as an Americans. I do not want to hear 488 00:26:32,137 --> 00:26:34,497 Speaker 1: it from people. It's bizarre the fixation they have with 489 00:26:34,577 --> 00:26:37,377 Speaker 1: the the British royal family. It makes no sense to 490 00:26:37,377 --> 00:26:39,937 Speaker 1: me at all, But for British people, I understand. Um, 491 00:26:40,617 --> 00:26:43,057 Speaker 1: so that's that's one air. So we've we've well, look, 492 00:26:43,097 --> 00:26:45,617 Speaker 1: I mean, The Crown is a good show. It's not 493 00:26:45,737 --> 00:26:48,737 Speaker 1: particularly true to real life, but it's it's it's it's 494 00:26:48,817 --> 00:26:53,497 Speaker 1: very entertaining. The interest in it, however, speaks to something broader, 495 00:26:53,657 --> 00:26:54,937 Speaker 1: I think, And I know you're not going to like 496 00:26:55,097 --> 00:26:57,577 Speaker 1: what I'm about to say, but I do think Americans 497 00:26:57,657 --> 00:27:02,457 Speaker 1: kind of miss something. They miss this this institution almost. 498 00:27:02,497 --> 00:27:05,977 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they want to be ruled from London, right. 499 00:27:06,097 --> 00:27:09,217 Speaker 1: You maybe want your own monarchy, but people want something 500 00:27:09,217 --> 00:27:11,897 Speaker 1: that spirational and in a country where we have the 501 00:27:11,897 --> 00:27:14,857 Speaker 1: founding Fathers being torn down all the time, and there's there, 502 00:27:15,457 --> 00:27:19,257 Speaker 1: I think there is something that, look, we all love 503 00:27:19,417 --> 00:27:22,057 Speaker 1: like I'm sure there were. Of course, there's British Republicans 504 00:27:22,097 --> 00:27:23,777 Speaker 1: who want the an end to the monarchy and so 505 00:27:23,857 --> 00:27:25,377 Speaker 1: on and so forth, and that and that is only 506 00:27:25,457 --> 00:27:27,737 Speaker 1: unfortunately going to grow and grow with with Charles at 507 00:27:27,737 --> 00:27:32,697 Speaker 1: the helm Um. But everyone basically loved her Majesty the Queen. 508 00:27:32,777 --> 00:27:35,417 Speaker 1: They understood that her life was Yes, she gets to 509 00:27:35,457 --> 00:27:37,617 Speaker 1: live in nice, big palaces, but they understood that her 510 00:27:37,657 --> 00:27:39,777 Speaker 1: life was really service. And I was lucky enough to 511 00:27:39,777 --> 00:27:41,897 Speaker 1: be able to go to Windsor Castle and pay my 512 00:27:41,977 --> 00:27:45,097 Speaker 1: respects at her tomb recently. And and and we had 513 00:27:45,577 --> 00:27:49,737 Speaker 1: as a nation we could come together and celebrate, um 514 00:27:49,897 --> 00:27:53,817 Speaker 1: that that person doing such great things. UM. I just 515 00:27:53,897 --> 00:27:57,537 Speaker 1: offhand referred to her as as in terms of popularity, 516 00:27:57,817 --> 00:28:01,857 Speaker 1: the Dolly Parton of the of the United Kingdom, which 517 00:28:01,937 --> 00:28:04,537 Speaker 1: Clay thought. He was like, you're you're crazy. You're gonna 518 00:28:04,577 --> 00:28:07,297 Speaker 1: get so so bashed or attorney. There was like a 519 00:28:07,337 --> 00:28:09,777 Speaker 1: big Tennessee newspaper that picked that up or you know 520 00:28:09,857 --> 00:28:11,337 Speaker 1: that he took that line. I don't they heard it 521 00:28:11,377 --> 00:28:12,537 Speaker 1: from me, or they just went with it. But she 522 00:28:12,657 --> 00:28:15,457 Speaker 1: was like the Dolly Parton of the United Kingdom. Everybody 523 00:28:15,497 --> 00:28:17,937 Speaker 1: loved her, which I thought was pretty funny. Um okay. 524 00:28:17,977 --> 00:28:20,257 Speaker 1: So see, we had Viri Lynn during the during the 525 00:28:20,257 --> 00:28:22,697 Speaker 1: Second World War, we had Viri Lynn and Viri Lynn. 526 00:28:22,777 --> 00:28:26,857 Speaker 1: People will know the song We'll Meet Again and actually 527 00:28:26,897 --> 00:28:28,857 Speaker 1: We'll Meet Again was one of the last songs that 528 00:28:28,897 --> 00:28:31,897 Speaker 1: was ever played on one of the Queen's Christmas addresses, 529 00:28:32,177 --> 00:28:34,137 Speaker 1: and so that I feel like Viri Lynn was kind 530 00:28:34,177 --> 00:28:36,737 Speaker 1: of our Dolly parton. I feel like the reason you 531 00:28:36,777 --> 00:28:42,177 Speaker 1: don't have a comparison is because of the very short 532 00:28:42,297 --> 00:28:45,337 Speaker 1: term nature of both your politics and your celebrity life. 533 00:28:45,657 --> 00:28:49,217 Speaker 1: And again, it's hard to explain because I understand that 534 00:28:49,297 --> 00:28:53,057 Speaker 1: constitutionally you guys are reversed to it, but from an 535 00:28:53,097 --> 00:28:56,417 Speaker 1: institutional perspective, a lot of a lot of Britons like 536 00:28:56,497 --> 00:28:59,417 Speaker 1: myself look at it and go, I'm so comforted by that. 537 00:28:59,617 --> 00:29:02,937 Speaker 1: So this, this turns, this turns into the next. I 538 00:29:02,937 --> 00:29:05,217 Speaker 1: think it's an easy way to transition into something that 539 00:29:05,537 --> 00:29:07,577 Speaker 1: to me is is related and you can take this 540 00:29:07,617 --> 00:29:11,937 Speaker 1: ever you want. Um which is I remember, I think 541 00:29:11,937 --> 00:29:16,417 Speaker 1: it was actually Andrew Tate before he was held in prison. 542 00:29:16,457 --> 00:29:20,217 Speaker 1: He has UK citizenship as well as American citizenship. I 543 00:29:20,257 --> 00:29:22,257 Speaker 1: think he said that England is a country that no 544 00:29:22,297 --> 00:29:24,737 Speaker 1: longer stands for anything, that won't and that won't defend 545 00:29:24,737 --> 00:29:29,137 Speaker 1: its values in as effectively in terminal decline as a society. 546 00:29:30,737 --> 00:29:33,377 Speaker 1: Do you agree with that diagnosis? And I asked because 547 00:29:33,377 --> 00:29:35,497 Speaker 1: as an American, I think a lot of people look 548 00:29:35,497 --> 00:29:39,097 Speaker 1: at Canada, Look at the UK. Look at Australia. I 549 00:29:39,137 --> 00:29:41,737 Speaker 1: was living in and now I've never been there, and 550 00:29:41,857 --> 00:29:43,897 Speaker 1: I don't profess to be an Australia expert. I thought 551 00:29:43,897 --> 00:29:45,617 Speaker 1: it was kind of like the United Kingdom with nicer 552 00:29:45,657 --> 00:29:49,897 Speaker 1: people in kangaroos, But turns out they're a bunch of 553 00:29:50,617 --> 00:29:55,057 Speaker 1: socialists who will do whatever they're told and embrace authoritarianism, 554 00:29:55,057 --> 00:29:59,057 Speaker 1: embraced the most insane COVID lunacy. And that really worries 555 00:29:59,057 --> 00:30:01,097 Speaker 1: me in a society that it can't actually be nimble 556 00:30:01,097 --> 00:30:03,257 Speaker 1: and adapt to reality as it happens, that it could 557 00:30:03,257 --> 00:30:06,097 Speaker 1: be overtaken by a mass hysteria. Same thing in Canada 558 00:30:06,177 --> 00:30:09,457 Speaker 1: under Trudeau. Is the UK a country, and so we 559 00:30:09,497 --> 00:30:11,977 Speaker 1: think that those places are just further ahead of America. 560 00:30:12,417 --> 00:30:14,817 Speaker 1: You know, there there are warning signs of what we 561 00:30:14,857 --> 00:30:19,857 Speaker 1: will turn into if we don't stand for certain values freedom, liberty, individuality. 562 00:30:20,417 --> 00:30:22,457 Speaker 1: Is the UK in terminal decline. What do you make 563 00:30:22,497 --> 00:30:26,897 Speaker 1: of that? Serfdom? I mean, what you're talking about is serfdom, right, 564 00:30:26,897 --> 00:30:29,537 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's the worst part of it is 565 00:30:29,777 --> 00:30:32,337 Speaker 1: almost the choice to be a serf, to be a 566 00:30:32,377 --> 00:30:36,217 Speaker 1: slave to your to your government, your bureaucrats, your politicians, 567 00:30:36,257 --> 00:30:38,577 Speaker 1: and forget that they are the ones who are either 568 00:30:38,617 --> 00:30:42,857 Speaker 1: supposed to represent your interests or as you guys once 569 00:30:42,897 --> 00:30:46,337 Speaker 1: did you know, they'll get tarred and feathered and tossed 570 00:30:46,377 --> 00:30:49,817 Speaker 1: overboard and serfdom is a very difficult thing in a 571 00:30:49,857 --> 00:30:55,617 Speaker 1: world that is increasingly relativistic morally and is increasingly secularized 572 00:30:55,897 --> 00:30:59,057 Speaker 1: because because government has become the religion. You know, in 573 00:30:59,097 --> 00:31:02,457 Speaker 1: the United Kingdom, the National Health Service which is failing, 574 00:31:02,657 --> 00:31:07,697 Speaker 1: I mean failing. They're having to set up temporary morgues 575 00:31:07,737 --> 00:31:11,737 Speaker 1: and mortuaries across the country because the National Health Service 576 00:31:12,257 --> 00:31:14,937 Speaker 1: is killing people. It is killing people by not showing 577 00:31:15,017 --> 00:31:17,617 Speaker 1: up in time when ambulances are called. It is killing 578 00:31:17,617 --> 00:31:22,097 Speaker 1: people because it is spending gargantu in sums of money. 579 00:31:22,217 --> 00:31:25,177 Speaker 1: You know, the National Health Services budget has doubled in 580 00:31:25,217 --> 00:31:28,537 Speaker 1: the last I think it's ten, ten to fifteen years. 581 00:31:28,777 --> 00:31:31,217 Speaker 1: The health has doubled. Do you think we have seen 582 00:31:32,017 --> 00:31:36,377 Speaker 1: commensurate rises in care as a result of that budget doubling. No, 583 00:31:36,577 --> 00:31:39,457 Speaker 1: we haven't. We've actually seen a worsening in care over 584 00:31:39,457 --> 00:31:41,457 Speaker 1: the last decade in the United Kingdom and the National 585 00:31:41,457 --> 00:31:44,017 Speaker 1: Health Service, you know, they call it the envy of 586 00:31:44,017 --> 00:31:46,857 Speaker 1: the world. I have never met anybody anywhere in the 587 00:31:46,857 --> 00:31:50,017 Speaker 1: world who envies our healthcare system. I've never met anybody 588 00:31:50,057 --> 00:31:52,377 Speaker 1: anywhere in the world who looks at my teeth and goes, well, 589 00:31:52,377 --> 00:31:54,977 Speaker 1: that's wonderful. I want to use the dentists that you're using. 590 00:31:55,337 --> 00:31:59,377 Speaker 1: And and you know, we've we've placed God with government 591 00:31:59,457 --> 00:32:02,977 Speaker 1: in our societies. We've replaced you know this, this this 592 00:32:03,097 --> 00:32:07,057 Speaker 1: appeal to something greater than us and greater than the little, 593 00:32:07,097 --> 00:32:11,457 Speaker 1: particular particularisms of the lives, all little lives we lead 594 00:32:12,457 --> 00:32:16,217 Speaker 1: with bureaucracy and the boring nature of the things that 595 00:32:16,257 --> 00:32:22,137 Speaker 1: they tell us are moral, which are oftentimes wildly immoral things. Right, 596 00:32:22,217 --> 00:32:26,897 Speaker 1: I think of transgender you know, library drag queen our 597 00:32:27,017 --> 00:32:29,057 Speaker 1: or whatever they're calling it nowadays, is one of the 598 00:32:29,097 --> 00:32:32,577 Speaker 1: great examples of what is being deified. So it's like 599 00:32:32,617 --> 00:32:36,897 Speaker 1: a bathtub right where where we know that we have 600 00:32:36,937 --> 00:32:40,777 Speaker 1: to keep that tub full of warm water, that that 601 00:32:40,777 --> 00:32:44,497 Speaker 1: that that cleanses us, that nourishes us, that protects us, 602 00:32:44,537 --> 00:32:48,337 Speaker 1: that keeps us warm. Meanwhile, our davos ali are constantly 603 00:32:48,377 --> 00:32:51,417 Speaker 1: pulling the plug and we're just constantly trying to trying 604 00:32:51,457 --> 00:32:54,337 Speaker 1: to plug that hole with with all manner of things. 605 00:32:54,337 --> 00:32:56,817 Speaker 1: Brexit as a good example of that, right that that 606 00:32:57,017 --> 00:33:00,857 Speaker 1: was the United Kingdoms electorate slamming their hand on the 607 00:33:00,937 --> 00:33:04,817 Speaker 1: drain and saying, well, well, well, well we need our own, 608 00:33:05,257 --> 00:33:07,617 Speaker 1: you know, system of government to keep us independent, to 609 00:33:07,697 --> 00:33:10,017 Speaker 1: keep us sovereign, to keep us safe, and to hold 610 00:33:10,057 --> 00:33:13,177 Speaker 1: our belief in something. But the problem with that is, sorry, 611 00:33:13,217 --> 00:33:16,697 Speaker 1: I know I'm break it because you're very close to 612 00:33:16,697 --> 00:33:18,057 Speaker 1: it and know Nigel, and so I want to put 613 00:33:18,057 --> 00:33:20,337 Speaker 1: a pin in that. But keep going. But just in 614 00:33:20,417 --> 00:33:23,377 Speaker 1: conclusion of all of that point, you know, you ask 615 00:33:23,417 --> 00:33:25,937 Speaker 1: about terminal decline, it's not that. It's not that we 616 00:33:26,577 --> 00:33:30,617 Speaker 1: the people of any of these western countries necessarily believe 617 00:33:30,657 --> 00:33:32,817 Speaker 1: in the terminal decline of our nations. Yes, of course, 618 00:33:32,817 --> 00:33:35,857 Speaker 1: some silly Marxists you know, have bought into it, but 619 00:33:35,897 --> 00:33:38,937 Speaker 1: they we can overcome those people. We are stronger than 620 00:33:38,937 --> 00:33:42,097 Speaker 1: them in very many ways. But but it's that every 621 00:33:42,137 --> 00:33:45,817 Speaker 1: time we get anywhere close to not just stopping that, 622 00:33:45,897 --> 00:33:49,297 Speaker 1: but actually turning the taps on and refilling the bathtub, 623 00:33:49,537 --> 00:33:51,257 Speaker 1: it's the it's the you know, we call them the 624 00:33:51,337 --> 00:33:56,137 Speaker 1: Davos Elite. Today it's it's Davos one day, it's Brussels. Another, 625 00:33:56,577 --> 00:33:59,617 Speaker 1: It's Capitol Hill another. All of those people and all 626 00:33:59,657 --> 00:34:02,497 Speaker 1: of those institutions are still just tugging away at that 627 00:34:02,937 --> 00:34:07,417 Speaker 1: at that drain. Now, you did have a decline particular, right, right, 628 00:34:07,457 --> 00:34:11,777 Speaker 1: you did have a particular view of Brexit. Somebody who 629 00:34:11,937 --> 00:34:15,057 Speaker 1: you were on Nigel Farage's staff, you know Nigel very well, 630 00:34:15,377 --> 00:34:20,737 Speaker 1: you know the Brexiteers personally and in a close way. 631 00:34:21,737 --> 00:34:23,457 Speaker 1: We were told, I mean, if you were somebody who 632 00:34:23,537 --> 00:34:26,297 Speaker 1: was reading you know, the Economist or the editorial page 633 00:34:26,297 --> 00:34:28,337 Speaker 1: of the New York Times, that Brexit was going to 634 00:34:28,417 --> 00:34:30,537 Speaker 1: lead to calamity. Right, I'm not sure if it was 635 00:34:30,537 --> 00:34:32,177 Speaker 1: going to be that all the Brits would be starving, 636 00:34:32,217 --> 00:34:34,297 Speaker 1: but you know, bad things were going to happen from it, 637 00:34:34,377 --> 00:34:37,417 Speaker 1: and then it was madness. What has been the report 638 00:34:37,457 --> 00:34:40,057 Speaker 1: card since Brexit? I mean, what has gone on? How 639 00:34:40,097 --> 00:34:42,257 Speaker 1: would you view it now that some years have passed 640 00:34:42,337 --> 00:34:45,657 Speaker 1: since that event that seemed to shock the international elites 641 00:34:46,057 --> 00:34:49,217 Speaker 1: and create this moment of maybe we're not all going 642 00:34:49,257 --> 00:34:55,137 Speaker 1: to be taking orders from bureaucrats in Brussels. Actually, now, 643 00:34:55,337 --> 00:34:57,257 Speaker 1: this is this is where it gets really interesting. Because 644 00:34:57,257 --> 00:34:59,897 Speaker 1: I talked earlier about how kiss Stamol wants to replace 645 00:34:59,937 --> 00:35:02,897 Speaker 1: the House of Lords with with a Senate. Well, why 646 00:35:02,937 --> 00:35:04,777 Speaker 1: does he really want to do that, Because what he 647 00:35:04,817 --> 00:35:07,617 Speaker 1: intends to do is pass primary legislation in the House 648 00:35:07,617 --> 00:35:10,617 Speaker 1: of Commons to rejoin the European Union, and he knows 649 00:35:10,617 --> 00:35:12,777 Speaker 1: it will be easier to pass in an elected Senate 650 00:35:12,977 --> 00:35:15,577 Speaker 1: to rejoin the European Union than it would pass through 651 00:35:15,657 --> 00:35:18,937 Speaker 1: the House of Lords in our current constitutional format. So 652 00:35:18,937 --> 00:35:22,497 Speaker 1: so right now in the British press on an almost 653 00:35:22,577 --> 00:35:24,657 Speaker 1: daily basis, and I go through it on an almost 654 00:35:24,737 --> 00:35:25,897 Speaker 1: daily base. Well, now I go through it on a 655 00:35:25,937 --> 00:35:29,297 Speaker 1: daily basis. You see, you know, when are we going 656 00:35:29,337 --> 00:35:32,697 Speaker 1: to rejoin the EU? Should Britain rejoin the EU? Brexit 657 00:35:32,817 --> 00:35:36,537 Speaker 1: is least less popular than ever before, and as the 658 00:35:36,617 --> 00:35:42,937 Speaker 1: older generation that predominantly voted for Brexit is dying out unfortunately, 659 00:35:43,297 --> 00:35:48,097 Speaker 1: and as the Conservative part Conservative Party continues to govern 660 00:35:48,217 --> 00:35:52,417 Speaker 1: as a center left party, Brexit is being watered down, 661 00:35:52,497 --> 00:35:55,497 Speaker 1: it is being neutralized. There are all sorts of things 662 00:35:55,497 --> 00:35:57,737 Speaker 1: that are blamed nowadays on Brexit that that have nothing 663 00:35:57,777 --> 00:35:59,937 Speaker 1: to do with Brexit, but the British public sort of 664 00:35:59,937 --> 00:36:01,497 Speaker 1: looks at it and they're told it by the Sun 665 00:36:01,497 --> 00:36:04,577 Speaker 1: newspaper and the Times newspaper and the Murdoch Press and 666 00:36:04,337 --> 00:36:06,457 Speaker 1: and Sky News and the BBC, and they're told it 667 00:36:06,457 --> 00:36:07,697 Speaker 1: and they go, oh, yeah, I guess it must have 668 00:36:07,697 --> 00:36:11,497 Speaker 1: been Brexit. What a bad idea. So I think unfortunately 669 00:36:11,497 --> 00:36:13,857 Speaker 1: we're looking at a campaign now to return to to 670 00:36:13,897 --> 00:36:17,617 Speaker 1: the European Union within the next five years, and and 671 00:36:17,737 --> 00:36:22,137 Speaker 1: they may well win that campaign. Is Britain salvageable as 672 00:36:22,177 --> 00:36:28,337 Speaker 1: a great country with a great tradition and a great people, Well, 673 00:36:27,977 --> 00:36:31,777 Speaker 1: you've described almost no longer exist. There is no one, 674 00:36:32,257 --> 00:36:35,337 Speaker 1: you know, one British people anymore. In a lot of ways. 675 00:36:35,457 --> 00:36:38,937 Speaker 1: I am evidence of that. You know, my parents were well, 676 00:36:38,977 --> 00:36:41,337 Speaker 1: my father was born in Tanzania, my mother was born 677 00:36:41,337 --> 00:36:44,577 Speaker 1: in India. My lineage goes back to India. Um and 678 00:36:44,777 --> 00:36:46,937 Speaker 1: and a lot of people who are of my ilk 679 00:36:47,737 --> 00:36:51,057 Speaker 1: chose not to assimilate, and they chose not to you know, 680 00:36:51,097 --> 00:36:54,377 Speaker 1: have traditional British values, and they chose not to learn 681 00:36:54,457 --> 00:36:56,937 Speaker 1: the language as as as fluently as I did, and 682 00:36:56,977 --> 00:36:59,777 Speaker 1: they chose to kind of not have I wouldn't say 683 00:36:59,857 --> 00:37:03,457 Speaker 1: like a dual loyalty, but certainly like a dualism right 684 00:37:03,697 --> 00:37:07,337 Speaker 1: inside themselves. That that that, you know, and I don't 685 00:37:07,377 --> 00:37:09,337 Speaker 1: like this. I don't like. I just I mean British 686 00:37:09,337 --> 00:37:11,977 Speaker 1: of the American people. You know, the American people as 687 00:37:12,017 --> 00:37:16,377 Speaker 1: one people exist. It's not about any racial, ethnic or 688 00:37:16,417 --> 00:37:20,057 Speaker 1: religious identity. It's about your identity as an American. Bamba. 689 00:37:20,137 --> 00:37:25,257 Speaker 1: The Constitution and our culture are shared history. So right, 690 00:37:25,297 --> 00:37:29,417 Speaker 1: So is the UK salvageable in as that or is 691 00:37:29,417 --> 00:37:35,737 Speaker 1: it breaking apart? I'm leading up to Yeah, go ahead, 692 00:37:35,777 --> 00:37:38,897 Speaker 1: go ahead. Sorry, I just I like to flesh those 693 00:37:38,937 --> 00:37:41,297 Speaker 1: things out, you know. And you the reason I say that, 694 00:37:41,297 --> 00:37:45,377 Speaker 1: it's because you do it too, right, African American, Asian American, 695 00:37:45,457 --> 00:37:49,697 Speaker 1: and everybody gets sort of segmented into these little identity groups, 696 00:37:49,697 --> 00:37:52,817 Speaker 1: and we've done that as well. Unless there is a minister, 697 00:37:53,897 --> 00:37:58,057 Speaker 1: a real sort of philosopher king that comes along and 698 00:37:58,057 --> 00:38:02,297 Speaker 1: and reminds the country that it is one country in 699 00:38:02,337 --> 00:38:06,777 Speaker 1: a very Disraelian sense, right, one nation. Conservatism was was 700 00:38:06,857 --> 00:38:13,177 Speaker 1: the longest running strain of conservative thought in the United Kingdom. Ever, 701 00:38:13,937 --> 00:38:16,657 Speaker 1: unless somebody comes along and reminds the general public of 702 00:38:16,737 --> 00:38:19,577 Speaker 1: that and indeed forces them to believe in it, right Like, 703 00:38:19,617 --> 00:38:23,137 Speaker 1: I don't mean, I don't mean through coercion, I mean 704 00:38:23,377 --> 00:38:27,857 Speaker 1: through argument, you know, gets them to believe in that goal. 705 00:38:28,177 --> 00:38:31,497 Speaker 1: Then then no, there isn't a United Kingdom anymore, and 706 00:38:31,857 --> 00:38:35,057 Speaker 1: nor should we pretend that they will be. You cannot 707 00:38:35,137 --> 00:38:40,217 Speaker 1: have a cohesive nation if everybody is taught that they 708 00:38:40,217 --> 00:38:43,537 Speaker 1: are part of a different group than their next door neighbors. 709 00:38:44,337 --> 00:38:46,297 Speaker 1: Is it more left wing as a country now in 710 00:38:46,337 --> 00:38:49,057 Speaker 1: its totality than the US? I mean, you have a 711 00:38:49,097 --> 00:38:51,417 Speaker 1: means of comparison here. You know, one thing that I 712 00:38:51,417 --> 00:38:54,137 Speaker 1: think people have recognized about Canada is if you take 713 00:38:54,177 --> 00:38:59,017 Speaker 1: the most you know, beta male low t Marxist leadership 714 00:38:59,097 --> 00:39:03,257 Speaker 1: in America, that's actually much more common and much more 715 00:39:03,257 --> 00:39:07,137 Speaker 1: powerful in the context of Canada and Trudeau and Trudeauism. Right, 716 00:39:07,657 --> 00:39:10,057 Speaker 1: So is that also true about the UK? Right now? 717 00:39:10,137 --> 00:39:12,337 Speaker 1: Are they even? Are they more awoke? I don't even 718 00:39:12,377 --> 00:39:14,097 Speaker 1: know how much that term is used over there and 719 00:39:14,097 --> 00:39:17,617 Speaker 1: then we are here. Oh it's used. It's used way 720 00:39:17,657 --> 00:39:20,297 Speaker 1: too much over there, and it's it's used in a 721 00:39:20,337 --> 00:39:25,457 Speaker 1: really cringe way. So so they don't say, like somebody goes, 722 00:39:25,897 --> 00:39:29,617 Speaker 1: you know, woke In the UK, woke is the is 723 00:39:29,657 --> 00:39:33,377 Speaker 1: the adjective that describes the movement. So there'll be like 724 00:39:33,537 --> 00:39:37,497 Speaker 1: editorials in the Telegraph that says we must end woke, 725 00:39:38,017 --> 00:39:41,817 Speaker 1: you know, as if that's like Antifa, um, and it 726 00:39:41,817 --> 00:39:44,217 Speaker 1: gets up, it gets on my nerves. Just from a 727 00:39:44,337 --> 00:39:47,817 Speaker 1: from a from a linguistic perspective. To answer your question, 728 00:39:48,777 --> 00:39:53,857 Speaker 1: I think, governmentally, bureaucratically, we are far more of a 729 00:39:53,937 --> 00:39:55,817 Speaker 1: left wing country and you should look to us as 730 00:39:55,817 --> 00:39:59,137 Speaker 1: a warning of how not to run your country. Culturally. 731 00:39:59,457 --> 00:40:02,617 Speaker 1: You know, I've been here for six years now. Culturally, 732 00:40:02,657 --> 00:40:05,017 Speaker 1: I think America is more left wing. People in the 733 00:40:05,097 --> 00:40:10,537 Speaker 1: United Kingdom are more, you know, more inclined to say, well, 734 00:40:10,617 --> 00:40:13,817 Speaker 1: let's let's take a beat on that and think about that, 735 00:40:13,897 --> 00:40:17,497 Speaker 1: and think about its implications to our culture, to our neighbors, 736 00:40:17,497 --> 00:40:21,457 Speaker 1: to our society. The America seems every time somebody comes 737 00:40:21,537 --> 00:40:25,417 Speaker 1: up with a you know, a progressive new thing, seems 738 00:40:25,457 --> 00:40:28,097 Speaker 1: to just slam its foot on the accelerator and go, yeah, 739 00:40:28,137 --> 00:40:30,257 Speaker 1: that's the new thing, and that's what we're going for now, 740 00:40:30,897 --> 00:40:34,617 Speaker 1: whether it's BLM or what have you, or the transgender stuff. 741 00:40:34,657 --> 00:40:36,857 Speaker 1: I mean, America, we have to we have to accept this. 742 00:40:37,217 --> 00:40:43,057 Speaker 1: America is the single largest exporter of cultural Marxism in 743 00:40:43,097 --> 00:40:46,217 Speaker 1: the world today, and that is a deeply, deeply shocking thing. 744 00:40:46,577 --> 00:40:48,577 Speaker 1: And of course, when you guys sneeze, we all catch 745 00:40:48,577 --> 00:40:50,577 Speaker 1: a cold. That stuff is now in Britain, it is 746 00:40:50,617 --> 00:40:52,497 Speaker 1: now in Australia, it is now in Canada, it is 747 00:40:52,497 --> 00:40:54,737 Speaker 1: all across Europe. You know, the French actually have the 748 00:40:54,777 --> 00:40:58,737 Speaker 1: lowest tolerance for this stuff of almost any European nation. 749 00:40:58,777 --> 00:41:01,577 Speaker 1: I mean, apart from these deeply social conservative nations like 750 00:41:01,897 --> 00:41:06,657 Speaker 1: Poland and Hungary. The French look at American political cultures 751 00:41:06,977 --> 00:41:08,737 Speaker 1: as they do most as they do look at most 752 00:41:08,737 --> 00:41:10,777 Speaker 1: things American. Right, but we're going to I think it's 753 00:41:10,817 --> 00:41:12,817 Speaker 1: our political culture. But yeah, they look at a lot 754 00:41:12,857 --> 00:41:14,897 Speaker 1: of it. But but but on this one they're right. 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The 788 00:42:45,777 --> 00:42:49,457 Speaker 1: craziest thing happening in America in America today is that 789 00:42:49,817 --> 00:42:54,617 Speaker 1: is that the right has not managed cultural hegemony yet. 790 00:42:54,897 --> 00:43:00,497 Speaker 1: Like that is like, yeah, I find that utterly, utterly baffling, 791 00:43:00,577 --> 00:43:03,697 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Um, that there is so 792 00:43:03,777 --> 00:43:07,137 Speaker 1: much cultural rot and disease coming out of Hollywood and 793 00:43:07,217 --> 00:43:12,297 Speaker 1: New York as you know, UM, but that we haven't, 794 00:43:12,337 --> 00:43:15,657 Speaker 1: that we haven't really truly cut through that yet, really 795 00:43:15,657 --> 00:43:20,697 Speaker 1: embarrasses me. It speaks to our lack of creativity. It 796 00:43:20,817 --> 00:43:25,457 Speaker 1: speaks to our lack of honestly, for people who regard 797 00:43:25,497 --> 00:43:27,337 Speaker 1: themselves as I do, and I don't, I don't profess 798 00:43:27,377 --> 00:43:29,217 Speaker 1: to speak for you in this regard, but I regard 799 00:43:29,257 --> 00:43:32,737 Speaker 1: myself as a populist. For people who regard themselves as populists, 800 00:43:32,777 --> 00:43:36,057 Speaker 1: we're not very good at being popular in the things 801 00:43:36,057 --> 00:43:39,737 Speaker 1: that we promote culturally. So that's why this year, I'm 802 00:43:39,777 --> 00:43:42,017 Speaker 1: pleased to say, and I think you may be getting 803 00:43:42,057 --> 00:43:44,697 Speaker 1: the exclusive here on this right now, that the National 804 00:43:44,737 --> 00:43:46,857 Speaker 1: Pulse is going to be moving into that territory. We 805 00:43:46,897 --> 00:43:49,537 Speaker 1: are going to be moving into print magazine territory. We 806 00:43:49,577 --> 00:43:52,537 Speaker 1: are going to be moving into documentary territory. We are 807 00:43:52,617 --> 00:43:55,177 Speaker 1: we are just widening the scope of the things that 808 00:43:55,217 --> 00:43:59,017 Speaker 1: we present to as many people as possible, because because 809 00:43:59,057 --> 00:44:01,977 Speaker 1: I was reading this Michael Anton essay, actually I think 810 00:44:01,977 --> 00:44:04,937 Speaker 1: it was in I Am seventeen seventy six magazine, which 811 00:44:04,937 --> 00:44:09,177 Speaker 1: is a great magazine about about Tom Wolfe and about 812 00:44:09,217 --> 00:44:13,897 Speaker 1: the the the vacuums that he saw around him culturally 813 00:44:13,897 --> 00:44:17,017 Speaker 1: and how he just chose to fill them, right. He 814 00:44:17,137 --> 00:44:20,937 Speaker 1: just told the stories that he saw before him that 815 00:44:20,937 --> 00:44:23,417 Speaker 1: he knew weren't being told anywhere else. On fire of 816 00:44:23,417 --> 00:44:25,697 Speaker 1: the vanities, so on and so forth. And we've got 817 00:44:25,737 --> 00:44:29,257 Speaker 1: we've got real bonfires of the vanities going on in Washington, 818 00:44:29,337 --> 00:44:34,057 Speaker 1: DC right now. We've got we've got neighborhoods, predominantly black neighborhoods, 819 00:44:34,057 --> 00:44:36,777 Speaker 1: by the way, which are being totally left to rack 820 00:44:36,857 --> 00:44:39,737 Speaker 1: and ruin by a black mayor of Washington, d C. 821 00:44:40,217 --> 00:44:42,697 Speaker 1: But nobody's telling those stories for the sake of history. 822 00:44:42,937 --> 00:44:45,137 Speaker 1: Nobody's telling them for the sake of the next generation 823 00:44:45,257 --> 00:44:47,737 Speaker 1: learning from the mistakes. And so that is the thing 824 00:44:47,777 --> 00:44:52,297 Speaker 1: that really really baffles me constantly, how we are not 825 00:44:52,377 --> 00:44:55,257 Speaker 1: better at this yet. So, for example, because I think 826 00:44:55,297 --> 00:44:56,817 Speaker 1: this comes up a lot on the right in the 827 00:44:56,897 --> 00:45:00,697 Speaker 1: context of how is it that we thought the outcome 828 00:45:00,737 --> 00:45:04,297 Speaker 1: here would be any different when we've been playing for 829 00:45:04,457 --> 00:45:07,177 Speaker 1: this make believe neutral space in a lot of institutions 830 00:45:07,177 --> 00:45:11,177 Speaker 1: for a long time, and for example, even in classrooms, 831 00:45:11,217 --> 00:45:14,097 Speaker 1: they'll say, oh, well, there you're pushing your right wing 832 00:45:14,177 --> 00:45:17,497 Speaker 1: conservative values. Someone's values are going to be in the classroom. 833 00:45:17,537 --> 00:45:19,337 Speaker 1: I think the right has at least woken up to 834 00:45:19,377 --> 00:45:24,697 Speaker 1: that reality because of you know, transgender drag, Queen Story Hour, 835 00:45:24,777 --> 00:45:27,337 Speaker 1: and all these things that have become and CRT, which 836 00:45:27,377 --> 00:45:31,897 Speaker 1: is explicitly in many context anti white, explicitly racist in 837 00:45:31,937 --> 00:45:35,457 Speaker 1: the way that it's presented in classrooms. People have realized 838 00:45:35,497 --> 00:45:37,297 Speaker 1: that there's not this oh, we're just gonna have neutral space, 839 00:45:37,417 --> 00:45:39,697 Speaker 1: neutral space. When you have a left wing that says 840 00:45:39,777 --> 00:45:43,697 Speaker 1: that you know, algebra and higher math class being taught 841 00:45:43,737 --> 00:45:47,217 Speaker 1: as racist, you're going to you have to address the 842 00:45:47,217 --> 00:45:49,217 Speaker 1: battle as it is and not as you wish it were. 843 00:45:50,257 --> 00:45:52,977 Speaker 1: So there are some places colleges, universities, for example Rheim, 844 00:45:53,017 --> 00:45:57,377 Speaker 1: that the the left will not allow there to be 845 00:45:58,057 --> 00:46:01,937 Speaker 1: any who do not think like them, but given the 846 00:46:01,977 --> 00:46:04,617 Speaker 1: creative areas right, So, you know, if you're in the 847 00:46:04,617 --> 00:46:08,057 Speaker 1: political science department at a lot of different universities, you're 848 00:46:08,057 --> 00:46:10,257 Speaker 1: never going to get hired as an associate professor. You're 849 00:46:10,257 --> 00:46:12,257 Speaker 1: never going to get tenure for sure if you're a conservative. 850 00:46:12,457 --> 00:46:14,297 Speaker 1: So they operate at like a country club that won't 851 00:46:14,337 --> 00:46:17,737 Speaker 1: allow in the you know, the undesirables, the conservatives in 852 00:46:17,817 --> 00:46:20,937 Speaker 1: the creative side. Though, why don't we have? You berentioned 853 00:46:20,977 --> 00:46:22,697 Speaker 1: Tom Wolf? By the way, Bonfire the Vanity is one 854 00:46:22,697 --> 00:46:24,457 Speaker 1: of my favorite novels of all time. Took place in 855 00:46:24,457 --> 00:46:26,057 Speaker 1: the Upper East Side where I grew up, and I 856 00:46:26,057 --> 00:46:27,737 Speaker 1: read Tom Wolf when I was in the eighth grade. 857 00:46:27,857 --> 00:46:31,257 Speaker 1: I've read that book in the eighth grade. Why don't 858 00:46:31,257 --> 00:46:34,417 Speaker 1: we produce great novels? Why don't we have It's amazing? 859 00:46:34,417 --> 00:46:36,497 Speaker 1: People will say that show is conservative, or people will 860 00:46:36,537 --> 00:46:39,777 Speaker 1: say The Top Gun Maverick is conservative. I say it's 861 00:46:39,817 --> 00:46:42,777 Speaker 1: not conservative. It's just a movie the way movies used 862 00:46:42,777 --> 00:46:45,977 Speaker 1: to be entertaining, good guys, bad guys, and not a 863 00:46:45,977 --> 00:46:49,697 Speaker 1: lot of radical political theory thrown in there. Why can't 864 00:46:49,697 --> 00:46:51,737 Speaker 1: we Why aren't we capable? It seems of doing more 865 00:46:51,777 --> 00:46:54,657 Speaker 1: of that? Are we capable of doing more of that? Yeah? 866 00:46:54,737 --> 00:46:58,657 Speaker 1: And it's like every single time a left wing celebrity 867 00:46:59,217 --> 00:47:02,257 Speaker 1: or journalist comes out on our side just a little bit, 868 00:47:02,497 --> 00:47:05,737 Speaker 1: we all go nuts and hand them the football and say, right, 869 00:47:05,857 --> 00:47:10,617 Speaker 1: you're you're the quarterback now. Whether it's whether it's Wise 870 00:47:10,737 --> 00:47:13,897 Speaker 1: or Ricky Gervais or or you're on Musk or whatever. 871 00:47:14,097 --> 00:47:16,337 Speaker 1: You know, we we we leave the people who have 872 00:47:16,417 --> 00:47:19,177 Speaker 1: been fighting on our side, and we hand the ball 873 00:47:19,217 --> 00:47:22,217 Speaker 1: and the control of the game over to somebody very 874 00:47:22,257 --> 00:47:24,537 Speaker 1: recently on our side. And then and then when they 875 00:47:24,537 --> 00:47:26,257 Speaker 1: when they turn an ass or when they you know, 876 00:47:26,297 --> 00:47:29,297 Speaker 1: express that they weren't quite signed up for the entire thing, 877 00:47:29,377 --> 00:47:32,017 Speaker 1: then we go, oh my goodness. Some of us were 878 00:47:32,017 --> 00:47:36,617 Speaker 1: warning about about the Kanye situation before Kanye went totally 879 00:47:36,897 --> 00:47:40,937 Speaker 1: you know, whacko. Right, and and and here's look, here's 880 00:47:40,977 --> 00:47:45,497 Speaker 1: a message to people who because it's Jermaine to your question, 881 00:47:45,937 --> 00:47:48,377 Speaker 1: is not you and I I mean, we we do 882 00:47:48,417 --> 00:47:50,777 Speaker 1: this on a daily basis, right, We are literally creating 883 00:47:50,817 --> 00:47:54,137 Speaker 1: content every single day that millions of people see. But 884 00:47:54,137 --> 00:47:58,017 Speaker 1: but there's there's a lot more to the conservative cultural 885 00:47:58,137 --> 00:48:02,737 Speaker 1: movement than the podcast. As the talking Heads the political strategists, 886 00:48:02,777 --> 00:48:07,257 Speaker 1: all of that. It actually really behooves the ordinary American 887 00:48:07,337 --> 00:48:11,737 Speaker 1: to step into this space, because only you, who is 888 00:48:11,777 --> 00:48:14,057 Speaker 1: not living in DC, who is not living in New York, 889 00:48:14,097 --> 00:48:16,297 Speaker 1: who is not living in Miami, who is not living 890 00:48:16,297 --> 00:48:20,137 Speaker 1: in these big cities, can talk about the experiences that 891 00:48:20,177 --> 00:48:24,697 Speaker 1: you're having in your states, in your counties, in your towns, 892 00:48:24,777 --> 00:48:27,177 Speaker 1: in your villages, in your you know, I don't care 893 00:48:27,377 --> 00:48:30,737 Speaker 1: whether you live in a in a relatively new suburban district, 894 00:48:30,937 --> 00:48:34,057 Speaker 1: whether you live in a you in the desert. If 895 00:48:34,057 --> 00:48:37,817 Speaker 1: you're not putting pen to paper and memorializing the experiences 896 00:48:37,857 --> 00:48:40,377 Speaker 1: that you're having, then why do you suppose that anybody 897 00:48:40,377 --> 00:48:43,817 Speaker 1: will do that for you? Right? And here's the thing, 898 00:48:43,937 --> 00:48:47,777 Speaker 1: a lot of those people, we're not great writers, they 899 00:48:47,777 --> 00:48:50,657 Speaker 1: were not great thinkers. What they were able to do 900 00:48:50,737 --> 00:48:53,057 Speaker 1: is observe the world around them and just write enough 901 00:48:53,497 --> 00:48:56,737 Speaker 1: down so that somebody somewhere could pick over it at 902 00:48:56,737 --> 00:48:59,297 Speaker 1: some point in the future and go, ah, this is 903 00:48:59,297 --> 00:49:02,017 Speaker 1: what was going on in these areas. It wasn't all Biden, 904 00:49:02,057 --> 00:49:04,377 Speaker 1: and it wasn't all LGBT, and it wasn't all this. 905 00:49:04,737 --> 00:49:06,737 Speaker 1: We need historians to be able to see that stuff. 906 00:49:06,737 --> 00:49:10,457 Speaker 1: And it is completely completely on the shoulders of ordinary 907 00:49:10,497 --> 00:49:12,377 Speaker 1: Americans to make sure that that stuff stays in the 908 00:49:12,417 --> 00:49:18,617 Speaker 1: historical record. The second part of this is, Um, you 909 00:49:18,737 --> 00:49:22,057 Speaker 1: talked about the somebody's values is going to be in 910 00:49:22,097 --> 00:49:25,177 Speaker 1: the classroom, right, and that and that's so called that 911 00:49:25,257 --> 00:49:28,497 Speaker 1: fake neutral space. Well, that fake neutral space comes from 912 00:49:28,737 --> 00:49:32,057 Speaker 1: comes from secularism, it comes from science, and it comes 913 00:49:32,097 --> 00:49:35,377 Speaker 1: from the expert class. The expert class that we all 914 00:49:35,417 --> 00:49:38,457 Speaker 1: know were the people behind COVID, were the people saying 915 00:49:38,457 --> 00:49:40,377 Speaker 1: that there'll be a third World War if, if you know, 916 00:49:40,377 --> 00:49:42,817 Speaker 1: Britain leaves the European Union. They're all saying that Donald 917 00:49:42,857 --> 00:49:45,337 Speaker 1: Trump would would you know, accidentally press the nuclear button 918 00:49:45,377 --> 00:49:48,057 Speaker 1: instead of the diet coke Buttonum, these are the people 919 00:49:48,097 --> 00:49:52,177 Speaker 1: who need challenging and we should you know, the you 920 00:49:52,217 --> 00:49:54,937 Speaker 1: know the Chad meme where it's just you know, the 921 00:49:55,017 --> 00:49:59,217 Speaker 1: guy and he just says, you know, yes, that's it. Yes. Well, 922 00:49:59,257 --> 00:50:02,497 Speaker 1: when the left accuses us of oh, well you just 923 00:50:02,537 --> 00:50:05,857 Speaker 1: want your philosophy in the classrooms, yes, oh you just 924 00:50:05,937 --> 00:50:10,817 Speaker 1: want you know, anti abortion measures, Yes, you just don't 925 00:50:10,817 --> 00:50:13,257 Speaker 1: want me you know, a man dressed up in a 926 00:50:13,297 --> 00:50:16,857 Speaker 1: skirt going into the girl's locker room, Yes, you know 927 00:50:17,177 --> 00:50:20,057 Speaker 1: those are the answers. It's you don't have to equivocate 928 00:50:20,097 --> 00:50:22,137 Speaker 1: about those things. And we spend too much time equivocating. 929 00:50:22,297 --> 00:50:24,377 Speaker 1: We want to be liked too much. Forget about it. 930 00:50:24,417 --> 00:50:25,697 Speaker 1: We're not going to be liked by the other side. 931 00:50:25,737 --> 00:50:28,537 Speaker 1: You're gonna be liked by your own side. I think 932 00:50:28,897 --> 00:50:31,697 Speaker 1: personally that I am going to use twenty twenty three 933 00:50:31,697 --> 00:50:34,577 Speaker 1: to write more than I've ever written before because there 934 00:50:34,577 --> 00:50:36,577 Speaker 1: are so many things going on out there. I am 935 00:50:36,577 --> 00:50:38,937 Speaker 1: going to do a tour of the United States and 936 00:50:39,257 --> 00:50:42,777 Speaker 1: document in documentary format what is going on out there 937 00:50:42,817 --> 00:50:46,177 Speaker 1: in the real United States, because very few people are 938 00:50:46,217 --> 00:50:49,217 Speaker 1: telling the stories of ordinary Americans, and I think these 939 00:50:49,257 --> 00:50:52,337 Speaker 1: are the times especially that those stories need to be told. 940 00:50:53,097 --> 00:50:56,337 Speaker 1: And and you know, history is not written by the victors. 941 00:50:56,777 --> 00:50:59,577 Speaker 1: History is written by those who bother to write it. 942 00:51:00,017 --> 00:51:03,617 Speaker 1: So let's write it. Raheim Kasalm, everybody check out the 943 00:51:03,697 --> 00:51:07,017 Speaker 1: Raheem Kassam podcast and also go to the National Pulse 944 00:51:07,097 --> 00:51:10,737 Speaker 1: and keep an eye out for all these projects. As Raheem, 945 00:51:10,777 --> 00:51:12,897 Speaker 1: you're promising some cool stuff that people are going to 946 00:51:12,937 --> 00:51:15,497 Speaker 1: be looking for it. So thank you, my friend, for 947 00:51:15,937 --> 00:51:18,097 Speaker 1: coming and hanging out. And we'll have to do like 948 00:51:18,137 --> 00:51:21,817 Speaker 1: a podcast after dark session at some point with some booze, 949 00:51:22,177 --> 00:51:25,217 Speaker 1: some lifestyle tips. What's the one what is the one 950 00:51:25,257 --> 00:51:29,137 Speaker 1: thing raheem that the American that American men listening to this, 951 00:51:29,537 --> 00:51:31,217 Speaker 1: if you could get them to either do more of 952 00:51:31,417 --> 00:51:34,897 Speaker 1: or less of one thing, what would it be? Well, 953 00:51:35,017 --> 00:51:38,097 Speaker 1: you know, every year is dry January for me, and 954 00:51:38,097 --> 00:51:41,377 Speaker 1: it's it's a real it's it's a hardship for thirty 955 00:51:41,417 --> 00:51:43,857 Speaker 1: one days. Um, and I'm going through that. It's the 956 00:51:43,897 --> 00:51:45,537 Speaker 1: tail end of it right now. I'm going through it. 957 00:51:45,897 --> 00:51:49,857 Speaker 1: But you know, for me, I've undertaken a lot of 958 00:51:49,857 --> 00:51:51,817 Speaker 1: different things in the last couple of years. I was 959 00:51:51,857 --> 00:51:54,937 Speaker 1: I was about forty pounds heavier, um, not but twenty 960 00:51:54,937 --> 00:51:58,297 Speaker 1: four months ago. Um, I've I've lost all that way. 961 00:51:58,377 --> 00:52:01,497 Speaker 1: I've changed a lot of the things in my life. Um. Honestly, 962 00:52:01,537 --> 00:52:04,137 Speaker 1: the things that that's made the world of difference to 963 00:52:04,177 --> 00:52:09,137 Speaker 1: me from a from a physical perspective is deadlifting, running 964 00:52:09,177 --> 00:52:12,497 Speaker 1: and the stem masta quite frankly that it sort of 965 00:52:12,497 --> 00:52:14,457 Speaker 1: shed all of the weight for me. And the other 966 00:52:14,497 --> 00:52:16,937 Speaker 1: part of it for me is um, you know, I've 967 00:52:17,097 --> 00:52:19,817 Speaker 1: very much switched. I used to be a seven eight 968 00:52:20,017 --> 00:52:22,257 Speaker 1: nine points of beer and night kind of guy. You know, 969 00:52:22,297 --> 00:52:25,017 Speaker 1: no dinner. It was just beer for me, and I've 970 00:52:25,137 --> 00:52:29,017 Speaker 1: very much switched that out from martinis a little bit 971 00:52:29,017 --> 00:52:33,137 Speaker 1: more sophisticated, a little you can you can drink fewer 972 00:52:33,217 --> 00:52:35,537 Speaker 1: of them, and still you know, have that little buzz. 973 00:52:36,337 --> 00:52:40,977 Speaker 1: I actually think they are far better a measure of 974 00:52:40,977 --> 00:52:43,377 Speaker 1: a man than a than a than a cous light 975 00:52:43,577 --> 00:52:46,137 Speaker 1: as well. And then the other thing is ignore the 976 00:52:46,217 --> 00:52:49,377 Speaker 1: advice from the nutrition experts who are trying to get 977 00:52:49,377 --> 00:52:51,937 Speaker 1: you to eat crickets and all of that nonsense. The 978 00:52:52,017 --> 00:52:55,537 Speaker 1: best breakfast you can have is steaking eggs, and frankly, 979 00:52:55,577 --> 00:52:57,737 Speaker 1: the best every meal you can have your steak and eggs. 980 00:52:57,857 --> 00:53:01,257 Speaker 1: So get on that trade. I actually totally agree. So 981 00:53:01,297 --> 00:53:03,417 Speaker 1: there you go, everybody. Raheem my friend, thanks for being 982 00:53:03,457 --> 00:53:05,057 Speaker 1: with us, thanks for giving us your time, and we'll 983 00:53:05,057 --> 00:53:07,257 Speaker 1: have you back soon. Just thank you. Puck