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Speaker 1: the host for Fantasy Football Weekly, Paul. Welcome to Fantasy
Speaker 1: Football Weekly. I am Paul charchy In. My co host
Speaker 1: today is Scott Fish. Hi. Scott, Hello. Last week we
Speaker 1: talked about unrestricted free agent running backs, where they could go,
Speaker 1: the value of the running backs. If you missed that one,
Speaker 1: we encourage you to go check out the podcast. Let's
Speaker 1: take a look at the quarterback position, which is as
Speaker 1: meaty and off season as I've ever seen in my
Speaker 1: twenty five years of doing this at a professional level.
Speaker 1: I've never seen so many quality quarterbacks hit the free
Speaker 1: agency market. At one time of drisk called Gino Smith.
Speaker 1: I can't believe Joe Webb still in the league. That's crazy, man.
Speaker 1: That guy's earned. He's been in the league now like
Speaker 1: ten years. I'm just gonna put that out there. Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: no Tuesday night football wins, Joe Webb want to know?
Speaker 1: And in third Tuesday night games in Philadelphia, UM, I
Speaker 1: want to start and we'll go through all the quarterbacks fantasy.
Speaker 1: It's all obviously a fantasy perspective here, but we'll talk
Speaker 1: about the ideal landing places, which quarterbacks are coming up
Speaker 1: in free agency, where we think that reasonably will go
Speaker 1: and and what are the what are the what's the
Speaker 1: forward facing fantasy value for these guys, especially for Dynasty
Speaker 1: and Empire league owners, because that's a lot who listened
Speaker 1: to these offseason podcasts, Dynasty and Empire players that are
Speaker 1: that never really turned the brain off with fantasy football.
Speaker 1: We love you. I want to start here. You know,
Speaker 1: the temptations to immediately roll into the free agent quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: you know, like you know bray Dan Breeze and Rivers
Speaker 1: and Winston. We'll talk about those guys, but I thought
Speaker 1: it after prepping for the show, it's got I kind
Speaker 1: of thought it made more sense to talk through the
Speaker 1: best landing spots first. Let's do it, all right, I've
Speaker 1: got eight viable landing spot teams for free agent quarterbacks
Speaker 1: I'm taking I'm taking several off the table. So first
Speaker 1: I'm taking Dallas off the table because Dad's probably gonna
Speaker 1: stay Tennessee off the table because Tannehill probably stays off
Speaker 1: the table, bangs off the table for Joe Burrow. Miami's
Speaker 1: off the table because I earnestly believe they'll address the
Speaker 1: quarterback position in the draft, because I wouldn't they. I mean,
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick is in UM there are some teams that could
Speaker 1: address quarterback but have immediate help, but maybe it couldn't
Speaker 1: need some help long term. But like Detroit and Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: maybe Washington even But I don't I don't think they're
Speaker 1: really players in this. So let's talk through the least
Speaker 1: ones I've identified. Maybe maybe I have missed him. I
Speaker 1: think the best possible fantasy landing spot for a free
Speaker 1: agent is Tampa Bay. That's what I have as number
Speaker 1: one as well. You have you got you got two
Speaker 1: top five fantasy wide receivers right there. You got Bruce Arians,
Speaker 1: O J. Howard if he could get out of his
Speaker 1: own way, apparently you got the quarterback whisper. Yeah, Bruce
Speaker 1: Arians All right, all right, good, we agree Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: is the ideal spot. I think any of the free
Speaker 1: agent quarterbacks, including by the way, Jamis Winston, could stay
Speaker 1: with his team. UM or that's the maxim that's the
Speaker 1: maximized spot. If if Jamis Winston can be a top
Speaker 1: five fantasy quarterbacks throwing thirty interceptions, I have to believe
Speaker 1: one of these free agents could do just as well.
Speaker 1: The number two one in my mind is the Saints
Speaker 1: because you get Michael Thomas and you get Sean Payton,
Speaker 1: who I just yeah, he's he's really good. Teddy Bridge
Speaker 1: Rutter was okay fantasy wise for a couple of those
Speaker 1: five games. Didn't ask him to do a lot. He
Speaker 1: had the one explosive game, and that's not a lot more.
Speaker 1: I think it was two of the five he was
Speaker 1: worth it. Um, but you know they I wish there
Speaker 1: was a better second receiver on that team. Um. Jared
Speaker 1: Cook is a viable contributor. That counts a little bit.
Speaker 1: Elvin Kamar is really their second receiver in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways. He is isn't he um. Which leads us,
Speaker 1: by the way to the Chargers where Austin Ekeler I
Speaker 1: think helps whoever lands. There's three landing spot. They've got
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, They've got Hunter, Henry, Austin Ekeler, Mike Williams.
Speaker 1: Mike Williams, those are those are tools. I think the
Speaker 1: chargers are right there. You can make a case I
Speaker 1: have the chargers number two. I think you can make
Speaker 1: the case the charges are number two. I think you
Speaker 1: can too. I think it's better they have better weapons.
Speaker 1: They do have better weapons. Uh. Part of it is
Speaker 1: I just it's the Sean Payton part of it that
Speaker 1: I just trust Payton to maximize that position a little bit. Um. Next,
Speaker 1: and my number four is Carolina as a landing spot
Speaker 1: for fantasy usage. You know they're a little off radar.
Speaker 1: But then I started thinking about the weapons you get
Speaker 1: to throw to Christie McCaffrey, best pass catching running back
Speaker 1: in the league. You get d J. Moore and Curtis
Speaker 1: Samuel who both got better last year and can get
Speaker 1: better again. So even though that offense didn't generate much
Speaker 1: in the way, you know, as much fantasy, I think
Speaker 1: Ompha's we'd hope. But look at the quarterbacking had Daniel
Speaker 1: not Daniel Sorry, um, what's his face? We're going with
Speaker 1: that quarterback for the Kyle Allen. I kept thinking Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen had what seventeen fumbles, which like that that's
Speaker 1: an extraordinary number of fumbles. Yeah, and it tells you
Speaker 1: about their draft pick Will Greer, that he couldn't get
Speaker 1: on the field too bad. Even even at the bitter
Speaker 1: end of the year, they got him on the field
Speaker 1: a little bit. And I I was optimistic about Will
Speaker 1: Greer and it's I'm not calling him, it's not over.
Speaker 1: But when you can't beat out Daniel Jones with how
Speaker 1: bad Jones was Kyle Allen, I do again, those two
Speaker 1: are gonna be forever linked in my head for some reason. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're not number five. I've got New England and man,
Speaker 1: it gets shaky in here. So New England you got
Speaker 1: James White to throw to Julian Edelman in what might
Speaker 1: be his last year. You up Belichick, You have Belichick,
Speaker 1: You've got Snow and nikkil Harry. I don't know those
Speaker 1: guys meaningful. I feel like they're going to address it
Speaker 1: as well. The player in the free agent receiver position.
Speaker 1: They they draft receivers terribly. So, man, are they bad? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't. There's not enough talk nationally about how bad
Speaker 1: Belichick is as a GM. You know, we know he pulls,
Speaker 1: he does. He's the puppet master for every meaningful player
Speaker 1: personnel decision there. Um. You know they've really gotten that
Speaker 1: wrong many times. Okay. Next, by the way, I mean
Speaker 1: just the whole, the whole choosing Brady over you know,
Speaker 1: over Jimmy Garoppolo decision is you know, one that's already
Speaker 1: being looked at closely and reasonably. So Okay, did you
Speaker 1: say you took the Bears off the list at the
Speaker 1: beginning because the them above the past? Alright? Okay, well
Speaker 1: I got there coming up, But I still have Indianapolis
Speaker 1: ahead of them. That's that's the both of them ahead
Speaker 1: of the Pats in my head. Okay, and I think
Speaker 1: that's reasonable. I don't like any of these landing spots
Speaker 1: at this point. For Indianapolis, you gain the advantage of
Speaker 1: a terrific offensive line to keep you up right. You
Speaker 1: have t Y Hilton, and then you have nothing else
Speaker 1: a little nahem, hind. I think the offensive line is
Speaker 1: a big factor. I mean, look what Jacoby Precent did
Speaker 1: in the beginning of the season. Now, imagine a more
Speaker 1: polished quarterback in that situation. I've got Chicago next, you
Speaker 1: get Allen Robinson, you get Anthony Miller. You don't have
Speaker 1: a very good offensive line. We're not sure about the
Speaker 1: head coaches and as an offensive mind, um, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot to me, there's a lot to
Speaker 1: worry about in Chicago. Even though I do I like Robinson,
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's not much else there to me.
Speaker 1: Short Field, I think Anthony Miller is better than people
Speaker 1: I agree to give him credit for. And I think
Speaker 1: I think Naggi can rebound. I mean we're we're a
Speaker 1: year removed from him being Coach of the Year and
Speaker 1: and he he's under that Andy Reid tree I I
Speaker 1: didn't love last year obviously, but I think he can
Speaker 1: rebound little bit. Do we both have Jacksonville Last? And
Speaker 1: Trek Colan's basically a slot receiver to um, do you
Speaker 1: have Jacksonville Last? Yeah? I have Jacksonville Last? Yeah, probably probably.
Speaker 1: I have some more teams on here that would be
Speaker 1: in that same range, but they're probably off the table.
Speaker 1: So um, your jack Jaguars have DJ Chark YEP, it's
Speaker 1: about it. Now you get a little westbrookle conly mixed in.
Speaker 1: Those are role players. You almost with the way Chark plays,
Speaker 1: in the way Westbrook plays, you almost need a guy
Speaker 1: with a really big big I agree. This is where
Speaker 1: a guy like Jamis Winston could go to Jacksonville and
Speaker 1: be much more successful than Teddy Bridgewater. Right, So sometimes
Speaker 1: trying of match match that player that quarterbacks throwing style
Speaker 1: with the offense that he'd fallen too in the players
Speaker 1: that Teddy bridge right of the Pats. Then maybe you
Speaker 1: know it's not impossible, Uh, Pats have to do something.
Speaker 1: They need a band aid. Yep, you know it's not
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be ja since stiff them, stiff him?
Speaker 1: How about stiff him? Let's um, you're creating nicknames all right?
Speaker 1: Is there is there a team you think I missed
Speaker 1: that's gonna be relevant in the free agent market this
Speaker 1: year at the quarterback position? Because I think you I
Speaker 1: think you pulled them off. I mean you pulled off Washington,
Speaker 1: you pulled off the Dolphins, etcetera. So, um, some people
Speaker 1: think Las Vegas could be a sneaky spot for somebody,
Speaker 1: but I don't think so. I think there are odds
Speaker 1: for a while, I'm brady going there. There is I
Speaker 1: think just out of hype, there's But here's the thing,
Speaker 1: they don't need to sell the tickets. You're you're you know,
Speaker 1: you think they're enough hype in a new and you know,
Speaker 1: heading to Las Vegas, you're gonna get the home Fan
Speaker 1: Vegas card, and you're gonna get people who want to
Speaker 1: go to Vegas for a weekend to watch their football
Speaker 1: team and go to Vegas like the Las Vegas Nights
Speaker 1: did to accept multiplied by the NFL. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: they don't need They don't need to make any hype
Speaker 1: get selling decisions. The Raiders do. But it's weird to
Speaker 1: say the Las Vegas Raiders. First time in the podcast
Speaker 1: I've ever said it, the Las Vegas Raiders. Let's do this,
Speaker 1: take a quick break, come back. Let's talk about the
Speaker 1: free agent quarterbacks that we are following most closely, where
Speaker 1: they could where they could end up when we come
Speaker 1: back Fantasy Football Weekly. Paul Charch and Scott Fish all right,
Speaker 1: let's let's jump back into the free agent pool and
Speaker 1: let's talk about where we want some of these free
Speaker 1: agent quarterbacks to go. Scott, I am Paul Charching and
Speaker 1: Scott Fishes with me. First, let's just take Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: and Ryan Tannehill off the board. They're staying with their team, Scott,
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Um is the Cowboys are seventy seven million
Speaker 1: under the cap. I mean, just worst case scenario they'll
Speaker 1: franchise him and figure it out. Um, Ryan Tannehill Tennessee
Speaker 1: is fifty million under the cap and Tannehill's inn, they
Speaker 1: love it. It's a it's a perfect fit. I just
Speaker 1: I gotta believe it's kind of happy. Now, there's a
Speaker 1: small chance this Prescott thing blows up, if you know,
Speaker 1: and there's been a lot of there's been a lot
Speaker 1: of talk about this. These high high paid quarterbacks rarely
Speaker 1: translate to Super Bowl appearances, super Bowl wins. Um, it
Speaker 1: strangles your team in a lot of ways to have
Speaker 1: to pay that quarterback. And Dak Prescott is probably gonna
Speaker 1: be the highest paid quarterback. So um, if not Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: he gets his deal first. But if Prescott gets his
Speaker 1: deal first, he'll be the highest paid quarterback until Mahomes
Speaker 1: gets his figured out. So maybe there's a chance that
Speaker 1: Cowboys just say, you know what, we're not going to
Speaker 1: invest a hundred forty million dollars into the position. We're gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna We're gonna find other ways. But
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna happen on Prescott. I'm with you,
Speaker 1: all right, So let's go onto the meaningful quarterbacks for fantasy,
Speaker 1: in particular Tom Brady. So, hey, do you think he's
Speaker 1: even still fantasy relevant? And points per game? Last year
Speaker 1: he was the six highest scoring fantasy quarterback. Do you
Speaker 1: believe Tom Brady is still a relevant fantasy quarterback? Let's
Speaker 1: start there super flexing, of course, I mean he's back in.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a KUB two for you, but he's
Speaker 1: probably not. I don't know that he's edging into that
Speaker 1: top twelve unless I honestly, weirdly, even though we mentioned
Speaker 1: the Bucks were the best fit for for a quarterback,
Speaker 1: I think he's a better fit with the Chargers than
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen's underneath work, um Hunter, Henry's down the seam
Speaker 1: work in the middle, um Austin Neckler out of the
Speaker 1: backfield for like a James White action. I think the
Speaker 1: Chargers are a better spot for Brady, and I could
Speaker 1: see him cracking that top twelve maybe in that scenario,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of young up and comers that
Speaker 1: that I don't know that Brady's got any more top
Speaker 1: twelve years in him. Um. I think you you really
Speaker 1: hit it on the head when you think about Tampa,
Speaker 1: at least the way that arians has run that offense.
Speaker 1: It's Evans and Godwin's streaking downfield, and Brady's arm isn't
Speaker 1: a disaster, but you know, the arm strength just isn't
Speaker 1: what he used to be. And I don't think that.
Speaker 1: I don't think he is a great fit there. Um,
Speaker 1: So I agree Charges might be the better, the more
Speaker 1: productive spot. He might be fine for the Saints too,
Speaker 1: just with Michael Thomas and his tenure I agree with.
Speaker 1: But I think Chargers are the best fit for And
Speaker 1: you know, Drew Brees wasn't wasn't slinging lasers downfield last
Speaker 1: year either, and he was fantasy relevant. And we'll talk
Speaker 1: about Drew Brees in just a minute. So I think
Speaker 1: we agree. Brady probably not a top He's the biggest name,
Speaker 1: he's Tom Brady, and he he might bring a culture
Speaker 1: that helps win games. So but that doesn't help us
Speaker 1: in fantasy as much. No, not really. Jamis Winston won
Speaker 1: games the Bucks didn't, but Jamis won us games. Um, well,
Speaker 1: let's in fact, let's let's take this opportunity. Let's talk Jamison. Right. So,
Speaker 1: last he was the of the unrestricted free agent quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: He was the highest scoring of all of them. Uh
Speaker 1: in fantasy points per game other than maybe no Dak
Speaker 1: Dak was fifth and Jamis was six. He's the highest
Speaker 1: scoring guys who think are gonna be available. Um, you
Speaker 1: mentioned the thirty interceptions he threw thirty three touchdowns. You
Speaker 1: know how many games had he opened the game with
Speaker 1: an interception and or maybe two and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: Bucks are dead now, Oh wait a minute, here comes
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, six or seven first drive interceptions. Unbelievable for winstance,
Speaker 1: I mean staggering that he kept the job as on
Speaker 1: that for almost half your games, destroying your team's chances
Speaker 1: to come out hot by throwing those first interceptions. Unreal,
Speaker 1: and even more impressively, that Jamis didn't just like totally unravel,
Speaker 1: He's just unfaced. Just keep heaving deep balls and he
Speaker 1: really is. Um, his best fit is Tampa Bay. The
Speaker 1: best fit is Tampa Bay, isn't it? There's no better
Speaker 1: fit for him. There really isn't a better fit for him. Um.
Speaker 1: You talked about how the Charges have got a lot
Speaker 1: underneath guys. Caroline is kind of interesting. Mike Williams is
Speaker 1: a great deep guy, but most of their stuff is
Speaker 1: yeah underneaven. Yeah. Um, Caroline is kind of interesting. D J. Moore,
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel, they could get a little something going downfield.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind him there. Um, I don't know if
Speaker 1: he if he finds his way to Indianapolis Chicago, jamis
Speaker 1: without that's the question. The Bucks line not good, the
Speaker 1: Colts line. If he had time, that's a fair question.
Speaker 1: And what and is he at this point? Is he
Speaker 1: so used to getting rid of the ball in two
Speaker 1: point three seconds that you know, what would you do
Speaker 1: if he had three and a half seconds in the pocket?
Speaker 1: What happens? We mentioned earlier Jacksonville's a sneaky landing spot
Speaker 1: for for Winston, where with the deep ball to Chart,
Speaker 1: the deep ball to Conley, maybe that could bring a
Speaker 1: little bit of fantasy relevance to a team that doesn't
Speaker 1: usually have much And we're an actual running game for James. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how about that too. You know what if Jamis thrives
Speaker 1: in that situation, that'd be fun. Um. I Winston remains
Speaker 1: to me very fantasy interesting. I like you know, I
Speaker 1: like the I like the options for him my hunches.
Speaker 1: You think he stays in Tampa, Tell me what you think?
Speaker 1: I do? I think he stays in Tampa. I think
Speaker 1: it's less it's far less of a certainty than like
Speaker 1: Tannehill and Prescott. But I think I think there's a
Speaker 1: very good chance he stays in Tampa. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: the devil, you know, a situation I can I can
Speaker 1: believe arians might think he can, you know, help fix
Speaker 1: some of that. Yeah, and maybe he can. Um we'll
Speaker 1: find out. I lean yes, But I'm not as strong
Speaker 1: as you are. It's been a lot of losing under
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston for that organization, and I I think they
Speaker 1: know he's not a super Bowl quarterback. So do you
Speaker 1: want to sign a guy that you know? You know
Speaker 1: because you know everything about him. His whole career has
Speaker 1: been spent with the Bucks. If you know he's not
Speaker 1: a guy that can lead you to the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: are you gonna sign him to another three or four
Speaker 1: or five year deal? Yeah, that's that's a fair point.
Speaker 1: The market could dictate that. It could the market for
Speaker 1: Winston could dictate a three, four or five year deal
Speaker 1: that could be pretty expensive. Or do you just say,
Speaker 1: you know what, we're going Teddy Bridgewater for a year
Speaker 1: while we developed somebody else or whatever. Right, I would
Speaker 1: be dropping Evans way down my ranking disaster fantasy. But
Speaker 1: that's a very real possibility, is um, Well, let's use
Speaker 1: that as our transition to Teddy Bridgewater. He was well,
Speaker 1: And let's do all of the Saints quarterbacks. They're all
Speaker 1: free agents. Teddy Bridgewater who chose to stay with the
Speaker 1: Saints instead of possibly being a starter in my money
Speaker 1: last year and probably helped himself by and it was
Speaker 1: a starter and showing um it was not explosive, I
Speaker 1: don't believe, but I did have that four touchdown game
Speaker 1: that was I think, you know, people maybe didn't think
Speaker 1: he had in him because he never did it, never
Speaker 1: did it before. Um barely had two touchdown games before.
Speaker 1: So Bridgewater is finished three ninth in fantasy points per game.
Speaker 1: So just using those five games as a sample, he
Speaker 1: wasn't even a top forty two, wasn't even an NFL
Speaker 1: starting fantasy quarterback. Do you believe he's fantasy relevant? Even
Speaker 1: in the right spot you can give you the perfect
Speaker 1: team to fall into, which is probably the Saints by
Speaker 1: the way. Weirdly, in a perfect spot, he's super flex viable. Otherwise, no,
Speaker 1: he's he's He's the kind of guy you pick up
Speaker 1: if he's got a good matchup. Maybe I always call
Speaker 1: him the ultimate game manager, which just pisces people off
Speaker 1: in Minnesota because they love their I just saw Teddy Bridgewater,
Speaker 1: Jersey just this weekend. People don't have people still do it.
Speaker 1: They love they love their Teddy here. Um confusing. I
Speaker 1: think a great guy who had a tragic end. And
Speaker 1: you know there was some promising moments and you know,
Speaker 1: people have just conflated that into this, you know, this
Speaker 1: mythical mythical Treeddy Teddy Bridgewater. Um. And you know the
Speaker 1: comeback that I get on Twitter a lot is stop
Speaker 1: playing fantasy. You know he's not, you know, he's not
Speaker 1: in lite fantasy quarterback. But you know, just look at
Speaker 1: his wins and look at his winning percentage and there's
Speaker 1: a little something to that. But sure there's a fantasy podcast.
Speaker 1: He's also had some pretty decent defenses and players around
Speaker 1: him for people in Minnesota. The defense in Minnesota when
Speaker 1: he was with a good awfully good Yeah. Um, so
Speaker 1: let's stay with Let's stay with the Saints. Drew Brees
Speaker 1: is a refre agent. He says the only team he's
Speaker 1: gonna play for his his Saints. He'll either play for
Speaker 1: the Saints or retire, you know, which I think makes sense.
Speaker 1: Let's assume he comes back. What's what's his level of
Speaker 1: fantasy relevance in your mind? He was eighth in Fantasy
Speaker 1: points per game, which is better than I expected to
Speaker 1: hear you say it seems higher than he was, especially
Speaker 1: in it felt the tail end of twenty eighteen paired
Speaker 1: with last year, just it did not feel that way
Speaker 1: at all. Um. I think with a lot of these
Speaker 1: young guys coming up, I think he's falling out of
Speaker 1: the top twelve. For me, Even though I see that
Speaker 1: number eight right there, I still I get that. I
Speaker 1: feel like he's outside of that top twelve. All right.
Speaker 1: So even returning to the Saints and offense, he knows
Speaker 1: with Sean Payton and you know, he's never been probably
Speaker 1: a in his is every year that he's ever been
Speaker 1: with the Saints, and John Payton has probably never been
Speaker 1: a fantasy quarterback twelve or lower. You think the end
Speaker 1: is so close for him now, and the the the
Speaker 1: skills have diminished, the arm strengths have diminished enough, the
Speaker 1: fantasy production is diminished enough, explosiveness has diminished enough with
Speaker 1: Drew Brees that you do not believe he would be
Speaker 1: a top twelve quarterback. I do feel that way, but
Speaker 1: you look at the last four games. He was over
Speaker 1: twenty fantasy points, forced to four games send the season,
Speaker 1: including a forty pointer, wasn't in the playoffs in the
Speaker 1: one playoff loss. No, not in the regular season. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm just not buying it. I'd rather have
Speaker 1: the upside of one one of the other guys than
Speaker 1: than him. He he's gonna be startable in a lot
Speaker 1: of weeks. He'll be that's hail end of twelve. I
Speaker 1: guess in redraft, Breeze is going to be that quarterback.
Speaker 1: No nobody is excited to take. He's gonna fall to
Speaker 1: like round because you know who wants Drew Brees boring
Speaker 1: and then you know he'll end up being fine, totally
Speaker 1: serviceable fantasy quarterback. Um. And we know he's got explosive
Speaker 1: upside because we've seen it before and many a billion
Speaker 1: times in his career. Three touchdown games, four touchdown games.
Speaker 1: Nobody'll want him, but it'll still be good. All right.
Speaker 1: Let's he's the kind of guy that you don't want,
Speaker 1: You don't want to take him, and he's gonna outscore
Speaker 1: like Carson Wentz somehow, who everybody draft over him. I
Speaker 1: want to talk about Tasom Hill because he's fascinating. But
Speaker 1: we'll take a quick break and then we'll go to
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill, Philip Rivers and round out some of our
Speaker 1: some of our free agent quarterbacks when we come back.
Speaker 1: Welcome back. I wanted we were talking about the Saints quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I'm Paul Charchy and that's Scott Fish. We already talked
Speaker 1: about Breeze, talked about Bridgewater. Taysom Hill. Now this is fascinating.
Speaker 1: Hill is campaigning to be a starting quarterback in the NFL,
Speaker 1: something I don't think he could have done without Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson providing a blueprint to thirty one other teams on
Speaker 1: showing how it could be done. I'm sorry, do you
Speaker 1: have a problem with his thirteen career passing attempts? Is
Speaker 1: that is that you're sticky point with in him or
Speaker 1: I didn't believe in him. But I think it's a
Speaker 1: stretch to think that he is going to walk in
Speaker 1: and be Lamar Jackson. But he thinks. I think he
Speaker 1: thinks that's what he can do. He looked good in
Speaker 1: that one playoff game he was, he was awesome against
Speaker 1: the Vikings, but he's had no answer for him. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you this. So you know, we've talked Tampa,
Speaker 1: We've talked about the landing spots. I don't know how
Speaker 1: many of them would be willing two switch their offense
Speaker 1: the way Baltimore did for Lamar Jackson, Which is what
Speaker 1: you have to do if you're going to get if
Speaker 1: you're going to utilize somebody like Taysom Hill, by the way,
Speaker 1: thirty years old, Taysom Hill sneaky old, um. What do
Speaker 1: you you know, what do you think about thirty in August?
Speaker 1: What do you think about the fantasy value of Taysom Hill?
Speaker 1: Even if he lands into an ideal landing spot with
Speaker 1: one of these teams. Maybe it's Chicago, I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: this is the spot where you know, Naggi says, all right,
Speaker 1: you know, we've tried passing with Sad Trombone Ski. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's Bill Belichick getting the most out of it. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's Belichick. I'd like him more out of any of
Speaker 1: those scenarios. But this, this is the weird thing. If
Speaker 1: he goes to a place that he's going to get
Speaker 1: a starting role, he can run the ball. Taysom Hill
Speaker 1: can run, baby, he can run and bowl over people.
Speaker 1: And we we saw like we've seen spurts with Josh
Speaker 1: Allen and guys like that that you know have slightly
Speaker 1: more inaccurate arms that I'm not saying Hill has Josh
Speaker 1: Allen's canon, but I'm I'm just saying that rushing value
Speaker 1: is so big in fantasy, and if he gets a
Speaker 1: starting job, he's very viable. I'm not putting him like
Speaker 1: top twelve because you need to be like a plus
Speaker 1: yard passer in today's NFL to do to be a
Speaker 1: really solid fantasy quarterback. But uh yeah, I'm man, his
Speaker 1: rushing ability makes makes you really consider it. He's going
Speaker 1: to be overdrafted if he gets a starting job, though,
Speaker 1: because people will glam onto that. You think Taysom Hill
Speaker 1: will get anointed a starting job, I don't. I think
Speaker 1: he at his best case scenario is he falls somewhere
Speaker 1: like Washington where he's allowed to compete against Dwayne Haskins
Speaker 1: to be the starter. Yeah, do you think that's a
Speaker 1: viable scenario. I think he'd he'd either rather stay with
Speaker 1: the Saints because Sean Payton has talked him up as
Speaker 1: a future starter for years and years, or take a
Speaker 1: starting job contracts somewhere. I don't I don't think that
Speaker 1: he's I don't think he doesn't leave to compete. I
Speaker 1: don't think he leaves to compete. I think he leaves
Speaker 1: to start or stays with Sean Payton and wants to
Speaker 1: start there. And here's why I think you're right. Uh,
Speaker 1: Breeze has already said this offseason. I think it was
Speaker 1: a super Bowl Week that he's perfectly fine giving lots
Speaker 1: and lots of reps. I think he said, like twenty
Speaker 1: reps of game to Taysom Hill. So they may use
Speaker 1: this season season as a handoff season and also see
Speaker 1: what they got and see what they got and Tastom
Speaker 1: Hill right, And then you tell Taysom Hill, listen, we're
Speaker 1: gonna give you more reps. Really, we're gonna give you
Speaker 1: more reps, and let's see what you got and earn
Speaker 1: your way to who's starter, and we'll pay you as
Speaker 1: a starter if you do it. And you know that
Speaker 1: might be a scenario for Taysom Hill to stay with
Speaker 1: the Saints. I think Teddy Bridgewater is the odd man
Speaker 1: out with the Saints. Yes, yeah, Sean Payton, I meant
Speaker 1: just mentioned this, but Sean Payton has said multiple years
Speaker 1: that he believed in Taysom Hill as the starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: So I think he stares there. Yeah, I think he
Speaker 1: probably does too. Um, but again, I do think there
Speaker 1: is a scenario whe where he goes in battles some
Speaker 1: wobbly incumbent for a preseason job, like a Dwayne Askins. Sure, alright.
Speaker 1: The final guy I want to chat with you about
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. Here's a guy who's been a starter for
Speaker 1: fourteen season, been in the league sixteen seasons. He didn't
Speaker 1: start those first couple of seasons. Um, do you think
Speaker 1: he's got some fantasy right? Yeah? I know what? Do
Speaker 1: you think he's got some fantasy relevancy left in the tank?
Speaker 1: For Philip Rivers, this is a this is a tale
Speaker 1: of the tape kind of you watch him and it
Speaker 1: seems like he's done. There are a lot of times
Speaker 1: last year it seemed like he was just done, but
Speaker 1: he kept throwing. He kept throwing. I think he needs
Speaker 1: a good situation to to get back up there, and
Speaker 1: I don't think he cracks the top twelve much like Brady.
Speaker 1: I think Brady has a better chance to crack the
Speaker 1: top twelve quarterbacks and redraft than than Philip Rivers does
Speaker 1: Um the decision making the arm didn't look quite uh
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career. By the way, I'm not taking
Speaker 1: anything away from which is just you know, this is
Speaker 1: a this is a function of age. Um the father
Speaker 1: Tom undefeated, undefeated, and he gets all of us the
Speaker 1: the parts with Rivers that uh that that would that
Speaker 1: would worry me a little bit if you were a
Speaker 1: starter somewhere is you know, he's twenty four and fantasy
Speaker 1: points per game with Keenan Allen and Hunter Henry and
Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler. Okay, how do I find him in a
Speaker 1: better spot? The only way that I think that he
Speaker 1: the only material he gets better is he can get
Speaker 1: behind a much better offensive line. He was just you know,
Speaker 1: like the last four years, the offensive lines and able
Speaker 1: to charges have been disaster grade injuries over and over
Speaker 1: again for the Chargers. So if he could find himself
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, he's got a bunch of time and doesn't
Speaker 1: have to make you know, perfect throws under great duress
Speaker 1: and doesn't the mobility, which has never been his long
Speaker 1: suit anyway, isn't an issue Indianapolis might be the perfect
Speaker 1: landing for him. There could still be some fantasy value
Speaker 1: left in Philip Rivers. I can see that. I still
Speaker 1: don't think it cracks top twelve. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: a landing spot we've listed that that he cracks top
Speaker 1: twelve quarterbacks anymore. But fantasy relevance, you know for random
Speaker 1: start weeks, bye weeks, injuries. Yeah, sure, that's that's not
Speaker 1: a bad spot. I think so too. Um, I've got
Speaker 1: Rivers in my long standing, um, one of my long
Speaker 1: standing Empire leagues, back the very first Empire league in
Speaker 1: the whole world. I've got I've been holding Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: now for like, you know, seven eight years or whatever
Speaker 1: it's been since we started, And I thought about just
Speaker 1: dropping him out right this offseason, but I kinda want
Speaker 1: to see where he's gonna end up now. But I don't.
Speaker 1: I think it's a super flex, thank god. So I've
Speaker 1: got that. You kind of have to. You kind of
Speaker 1: have to. I think you hold them in super flex
Speaker 1: for sure. Okay, two other quarterback names I wanna throw
Speaker 1: out and tell me if you think there's any scenario
Speaker 1: where they have fantasy relevance. Marcus Mariota. Yes, oh, fantasy relevance,
Speaker 1: I yes, just listen, just care about I think he
Speaker 1: could be very relevant for a team running Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: plays for opponents on the scout team before the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it would be great practicing to play against the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Other than that, I just don't see. Now. If you
Speaker 1: were Viking, yeah, they'd run the parades before, they'd run
Speaker 1: the parades before the season starts. Crazy, how many Vikings
Speaker 1: fans don't realize what an anomaly that is to his career,
Speaker 1: and how flukey that season was. Fourteen wins is all
Speaker 1: they care about? Baby Minneapolis, Mineapolis miracles. Fantasy relevance there,
Speaker 1: I'm afraid I don't think so. All Right, that was
Speaker 1: an extremely thorough breakdown of the free agent I think,
Speaker 1: and all the landing spots and everything else. I hope
Speaker 1: you've enjoyed listening Fantasy Football Weekly. We'll be back up.
Speaker 1: We'll be back next week. Um, we're already. We're already
Speaker 1: dreaming up some of the things we want to talk about.
Speaker 1: We've got soon on a podcast coming soon. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about the free agent wide receivers, uh that are going
Speaker 1: to hit the mark because we did running backs last week,
Speaker 1: quarterbacks this week. I think receivers are coming up soon.
Speaker 1: Might hit on that, might hit in some gameplay variations.
Speaker 1: Scott and I love unique ways to play. We do.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a lot of fun with that as well.
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