1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece. You'd have to be living 2 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: under a rock in a cave far far away not 3 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: to have heard that Taught Mom. Casey Anthony is now 4 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: set to appear in an airbrushed digitized version of her 5 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: Truth on the Peacock Network. Her Truth will hold on 6 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: just a minute, because I don't believe taught Mom's her 7 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: truth is the truth. Let's do a little fat check 8 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: on what the truth is. Take a listen to toat 9 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: Mom Casey Anthony's distraught, panicked mother, Cindy not tot Mom, 10 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: but her mother, Cindy Anthony calling nine one one, when 11 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: taught Mom's baby girl to your old Kelly goes missing. 12 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: Listen a little chair emergency. I called her a little 13 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: gonna go to the deputy Shaw, So I thought about 14 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: my granddaughter has been tricking che husband listened for him 15 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: her mother's LiPo miss okay here now okay, what did 16 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: the address that you're calling from? Please tell him home 17 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 1: Spring drive. We're clock and about three your little girl 18 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: four nine three seven wife hope through h O P 19 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: E S P R I M G Cladra Lindle, Oh, 20 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: my daughter finally admitted I need to find her. Your 21 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: daughter admitted the baby is later if you kind of 22 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: took her a month ago that my God has been 23 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: looking for I told you my daughter was missing for 24 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: a month. I just found her today. But I can't 25 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: find my granddaughter, she just admitted to me. But she's 26 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: been trying to find her herself. There's something wrong with God. 27 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: My dad's cards to day and it's not like there's 28 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: been a dead bought it and threw a cloud. Okay, 29 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: what is the three year old name? Kayley c A 30 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 1: y l E E Anthony Kiely Anthony? Yeah, okay, she 31 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: wiped like her Hispanic He's light. How long has she 32 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: been missing for? I had not seen her since the 33 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: seventh of June. Do you hear Sindy Anthony's voice cracking 34 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: in pain and emotion? She says my daughter quote finally 35 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:55,839 Speaker 1: admitted Kiley has been missing over a month. Where are 36 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: the missing posters? Where is the desperate please on TV? 37 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: Where are the search teams led by none other than mommy? 38 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: They are nowhere because she wasn't missing. Kelly Anthony was 39 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: never missing. She was dead. She was murdered and the 40 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: only person that knew where she was taught mom Casey 41 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: Anthony I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you 42 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: for being with us here at Fox Nation and Series 43 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: X one eleven. In the last hours, we get a 44 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: news release. I want you to hear the trailer about 45 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: toat mom Casey Anthony's version of quote, her truth about 46 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: to be unleashed on the public. Listen Kesey interview, ABC 47 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: marker Sawstix. I talk to me now when you're not 48 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: getting creative control. That's the whole trailer. Tottenham says nothing. 49 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: For about three seconds, you see her praining and fixing 50 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: her hair and her lips and her teeth to go 51 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: on camera. That's it. That's the trailer. This whole thing 52 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: is so airbrushed, digitized. I'm surprised they're putting it out there. 53 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,119 Speaker 1: The nine one one call goes on, take a listen, 54 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: UM three eight nine two thousands, three two thousand and five, 55 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: don't true to listen something a month ago? Who'sten? Okay? 56 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: I just I mean, I understand. Can you can you 57 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: come down for me for the semitent? I don't even 58 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: know what's going on. Okay, I'm gonna chin is your 59 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: is your Daughter there? Song? With the Is Your Daughter There? Yeah, 60 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: I'm with her, do you mind it by step with her? 61 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: Thank you? I called them two hours ago. We haven't 62 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: got here. Finally some bany book months ago, ma'am, ma'am, 63 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 1: they want to talk to you. So you hear Sindy 64 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: Anthony trying to coerce her daughter, taught Mom Casey Anthony 65 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: to come to the phone to explain where her last 66 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: daughter was, saying, uh, just right off the top, joining 67 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: me an all star panel to make sense of what 68 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: we know right now. But I'm going to go to 69 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: someone intimately involved in this case, Rob Dick, world famous 70 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: bounty hunter, bill expert, probably an investigator. You can find 71 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: him at the human hunters dot com. Rob Dick was 72 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: there working with our friend Leonard Padilla, who paid the 73 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: half a million dollar bond to bail tot Mom Casey 74 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: Anthony out of jail. Anne was there when Tot Mom 75 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: came home from her first incarceration on a minor offense. 76 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: He observed the whole thing. So why Rob Dick did 77 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: the grandma Cindy Anthony have to coerce make tot Mom 78 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: come to the call to speak to nine one one 79 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: about her missing child because she had nothing to say. 80 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: I mean the whole time. You know, if you've been 81 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: in supposed to be missing your daughter for thirty days, 82 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: and then you're in custody for thirty days, you know 83 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: what would you think the first words out of your 84 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: mouth would be when you get out of jail? You 85 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: know where issue? Where are we at? Where can we 86 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: find There was no discussion about that. I would be 87 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: pulling my hair out if I were behind bars number one, 88 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: but especially with my daughter missing, and I wasn't they 89 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: her to try to find her, to scream at the 90 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: top of my lungs, where is my daughter? But as 91 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, isn't it true, Rob Dick that 92 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: the first thing that taught mom Casey Anthony said when 93 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: she came home from a couple of nights behind bars 94 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: on a minor offenses before she was charged with murder. 95 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: Her first words she walked in the house, she went 96 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: in the kitchen where her mother was, and she said, 97 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: not where the hell is Kelly? Her words were was 98 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: for supper? Correct, And that was it. I mean, there 99 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: was nothing about Cayley. Okay. So finally Sandy Anthony gets 100 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: taught mom on the phone, listen, can you tell me 101 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: a little bit what's going on and my daughter has 102 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: been received for the last thirty one days. And you 103 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: know who matter, I know who. I tried to contact her. 104 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: I actually received a phone call today now from a 105 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: number of that the longer in service. I didn't get 106 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: to speak to my daughter for aboutom moments, for about 107 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: a minute. Okay, did you guys callow a report a 108 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: vehicle soon? And yes, my mom did. Okay, so there's 109 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: been a vehicle soon too. No, this was my vehicle? 110 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: What a vehicle soon? Um, it's a ninety twenty xunfire. Okay. 111 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: I have deputies on the way to you right now 112 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: for that. But now you're now you're three old, three 113 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: olds missing? Kaylee Anthony okay, white female? Yes? Wait? Female 114 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: three years old eight nine two thousan five or day 115 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: to birth? Yeah, and you last saw her a month ago, 116 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: thirty one days from thirty one days. Well, that's a lie. 117 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: She didn't I hear her say, Alexa's restcha joining me 118 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: for Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. Didn't? I just here, 119 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: taught mom Casey Anthony say, I got a call from 120 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: the babysitter slash kidnapper. We've got a lawyer with us 121 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: right now. John W. Deal. I got a call from 122 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: her babysitter who took Kelly thirty one days ago, and 123 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: now that number, in the past hour has gone disconnected. 124 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: And I got to speak to Kelly for about a minute. 125 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: Did I just hear her say that you did? That's 126 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: exactly what she said and also cool as a cucumber. 127 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: She is on this phone where her child is missing, 128 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: but then she's not really missing. I mean I spoke 129 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: to her and she's with a babysitter. But Kasey doesn't 130 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: even have a job, So why does she have a 131 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: babysitter for this child? Her parents have been a baby, 132 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: this child's whole life. They have always lived with their grandparents. 133 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: And speaking of not having a job, which is a 134 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: whole nother can of worms. More for lies. She would 135 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: actually dress up in a Universal employee outfit with a 136 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: name tag and ID and pretend she was going to 137 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: work at Universal to fake out her parents. She hadn't worked, 138 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: and I guess what two years and I just sit 139 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: home on the sofa eating chips while they took care 140 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: of her and Kelly time stories with Nancy Grace, Joe 141 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: Scott Morgan. The reason I say that is a lie 142 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: that she just talked to Kelly, because Kelly's body reveals 143 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: that she had been left in the wilderness, decomposing, torn 144 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: apart by animals. We keep hearing three years old, she 145 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: was two, she was about to turn three. So when 146 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: todd Mom says I just talked to her, she was 147 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: already dead. And we know that because of the degree 148 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: of decomposition of this baby's body. So right there and 149 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: the nimal one call she's busted. Yes, sign is pointing 150 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: a big, meaty finger at her and saying you're lying, 151 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: because the science actually says otherwise. Relative to the degree 152 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: that this little angel's body was decomposed, Nancy, it was 153 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: decomposed so horribly that there was never a definitive cause 154 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: of death. There was a manner of death, but there 155 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: was never a definitive cause of death that could be 156 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: determined in Cayley's passing our murder. And so you know, 157 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: you begin to think about that, and you think, well, 158 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: how far down the tracks had she gone? How long 159 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: had she actually been missing? And contrary to what people think, 160 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: we can't put a specific time when she went missing 161 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: and when she died, but we do know she had 162 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: been down for a long long time, a really long time, 163 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: found in trash bags from the Anthony home, wrapped in 164 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: a blanket from Keyley's room. What am I supposed to 165 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: think that some unknown kidnapper snuck into the home, took 166 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: the baby without anybody finding out, and paused in the 167 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: kitchen to get trash bags, paused in the baby's room 168 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: to get a blanket. That's total bs and and anthy. 169 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: Guess can I interject? Please? Do? I'm hearing the voice 170 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: of doctor Bethany Marshall. She's joining us from LA and 171 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: you can find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. 172 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: Go ahead, doctor Bethany. Just a little factoid about how 173 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: all of this got said in motion. Casey was living 174 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: in a parent's house with a daughter, Kayley, and she 175 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 1: was such a horrible, disgusting mother that her mother went 176 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: to therapy and asked the therapist how do I get 177 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: my daughters to take better care of the granddaughter. So 178 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: the therapist said, you have to tell her to take responsibility, 179 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: to take her to school, feed her, And so that's 180 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: what Cynthy did to King. She said, you have to 181 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: take more responsibility. You can't just lie on the sofa, 182 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: eating chips all day. Within a day, that's when Casey 183 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 1: took Kayley and disappeared. And that's what said, all of 184 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,599 Speaker 1: this emotion was a simple request on Cindy's part to 185 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: take more responsibility for Kaylee. And I think that that 186 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: made Casey feel that her prescious dating life and lying 187 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: on the sofa and everything she was involved in was 188 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,119 Speaker 1: being interfered with. And that's when little Kayley was disappeared 189 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: by her own mother. You know John W deal joining me, 190 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 1: high profile lawyer out of Winter Park, Florida, practices all over, 191 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: author of the Method, The Method Proven techniques for winning 192 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: jury trials. He's at johnwdeal dot com and he represented 193 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: the real Zanada Gonzalez in a lawsuit against taught Mom 194 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: Casey Anthony for smearing her name. There's no question that 195 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: the babysitter taught mom Casey Anthony's referring to as having 196 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: taken her daughter does not exist. She happened. Taught Mom 197 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: happened to see Zenata Gonzalez a name written on a 198 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: list at an apartment complex and just took the name 199 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: and used it. And then the rules. Zanata Gonzalez said 200 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: what she started to hearing your name on TV as 201 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: stealing a baby? What and hired you? But I was 202 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: just thinking about what Dr Bethany Marshall just said, John 203 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: w deal about. Within twenty four hours of bringing down 204 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: the hammer on top, Mom about, look, you're gonna have 205 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: to actually feed your baby and take her to play school. 206 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm paying for it. I'll pay for the whole thing. 207 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: You just have to feed her. You've got to take 208 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: some responsibility. And in less than twenty four hours taught 209 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: Mom nuts up and leaves the home with the baby, 210 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: with Cindy begging please don't take the baby, Please don't 211 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: take the baby. She took the baby. I mean, how 212 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: does she get away with all the lies? Deal about 213 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: working at Universal? In fact, isn't it tree John deal 214 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: that she led the cops all the way to Universal, 215 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: talking about her job all the way to security. They somehow, 216 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: I guess, because she's with cops, get through security, go 217 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: all the way up to the building where she says 218 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: she works. They get to the door and they're going, 219 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: is she is okay? I lied right exactly? Take them 220 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: out there, And of course the cops are thinking, you 221 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: know what's going on here? What you get to say? 222 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: And then she gets there and comes clean about that 223 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: not working there, but of course continues the lies about 224 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: Zanida Gonzalez and everything else that's happened in between times. 225 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: Guy speaking of what top mom Casey Anthony was due 226 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: and during the time her daughter was quote missing. And 227 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: for those of you that can't see on Fox Nation 228 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:00,359 Speaker 1: that you're hearing on iHeart, or you're hearing on our podcast, 229 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: or you're hearing on Series Sex sim On eleven, I'm 230 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: definitely using double quoties what she was doing during the 231 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: time that baby Kayley was missing. You've got to hear that. 232 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: Let's play thirty three inside fourth Jack. You just thirty three. 233 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:21,119 Speaker 1: The last time that anyone saw Kaylee Anthony was June sixteenth, 234 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. Little Kayley was just two years 235 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: old when she vanished. Body would be thirty one days 236 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: before she was reported missing. On June twentieth, Casey Anthony 237 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: is seen at a nightclub having a good old time, 238 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: hardying it up and competing in a pop body contest. 239 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: On June thirtieth, she's seen on surveillance video going into Target, 240 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: going into j. C. Penney and what's she doing. She's shopping. 241 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: Of course, perhaps the most cavalier of all her actions 242 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: is when on July second and Casey Anthony gets a tattoo, 243 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: and not only does she get a tattoo, she gets 244 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: a tattoo that says bella vita. What does that mean? 245 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: It means beautiful life. Now, those are our friends at 246 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: Access and you're hearing a recounting of some of the 247 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: things Tod Mom was doing while her baby was missing. 248 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: Up on literally dancing on a bar at a at 249 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: a stripper pole and a blue mini dress, go go 250 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: boots and a push up bra while her daughter was 251 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: quote missing. I guess she was looking under the bar 252 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: stools for Kelly, but only she knew Kelly was already dead. 253 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: And now we're hearing from Peacock that they have produced 254 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: a three part documentary where Tod Mom gives quote her truth. 255 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: You know what, I prefer to hear the truth as 256 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: we know it. I want you to take a listen 257 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: to our cut eight. Casey Anthony sobbed into a tissue 258 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: hearing what happened to Kayley's remains in the woods. What 259 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: we're looking at here the top of the bones. These 260 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: have actually been shoot on by animals. The gallery was 261 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: filled with surprise faces, including an expecting mother whose mouth 262 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: hung wide open as autopsy photos were shown in court. 263 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: There is no child that should have duct tape on 264 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: its face when it dies. There is no reason to 265 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: put duct tape on the face after they die. Doctor 266 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: Jane Garavaglia, also known as Doctor G Medical Examiner on 267 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 1: her Discovery Channel show, says she classified Kayley's death as 268 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: a homicide based on red flags. The child was reported 269 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: missing thirty one days late and her remains were hidden 270 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: in the woods. Could a child expose to a sufficient 271 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: out of chloroform die as a result. Absolutely, you're hearing 272 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: our friend Carson Chambers too, just got Morgan joining us. 273 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: Could you decipher what we just heard happened to Babe Kelly? Yeah, yeah, 274 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: And you know when doctor G was referring to the circumstances, 275 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: it's it's what they call the totality of the circumstances, 276 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: as she doesn't have anything else scientifically to hang her 277 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: hat on. As far as the cause of death, you know, 278 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: it's it's abnormal to find a small child hidden, sequestered 279 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: if you will, out and the woods, wrapped in plastic 280 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: or an adjacent plastic bag. That of course, minju has 281 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: been wrapped, has been ripped open by scavengers. Do you 282 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: mean by animals that tore Kelly's body and ripped her 283 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: apart with their teeth. Yeah, And you know, her only 284 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: conclusion that she could come to was the fact that 285 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: that this is something that involves I'll play because there's 286 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: nothing else that she could say further. And you know, 287 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: they're asking about the chloroform. When they did a search, 288 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: when they actually did air samples in the back of 289 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: this vehicle that this person had, they found traces of 290 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: chloroform in there. And the problem with chloroform is that 291 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: it can be a product of decomposition. But then you 292 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: flip it on the other side and you say, well, 293 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: was chloroform actually applied to her in life to bring 294 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: about her death? And just to kind of you know, 295 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: and I think that people have speculated about this just 296 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: to you know, put the finishing touch. Her mouth was 297 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 1: duct taped, so you're compromising her ability to breathe at 298 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: that point when it comes down to it. But they 299 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: can't prove that Nancy's no more soft tissue left ducta 300 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: wrapped three times around two ole. Kelly Anthony's head found 301 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: hanging off off her skull when her body was found. 302 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: To Rob Dick, bounty hunter and Bill Expert, you spent 303 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: many days with tod Mom, Casey Anthony did you start? 304 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: I know, you arrived in Florida a few days before 305 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: Top Mom was released to have a meeting with George, Cindy, 306 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: and Lee Anthony, the brother Anthony's met with you. Then 307 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: you met top Mom when she was released from prison. 308 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: Tell me what happened. Well, initially it was, you know, 309 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: it seemed like a family that was in search for 310 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: a missing child. But it changed when Casey got out. 311 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: When Casey got out of jail and we get her home, 312 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: it just all became about her. I mean this is 313 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: no surprise. She has to be the center of attention, 314 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: even when her daughter's missing. It was just always about her. 315 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: What's an example of that, Well, for one, never being upset, 316 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: never shedding a tear, never asking you know what's been done. 317 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Georgia's out there doing is booth and putting 318 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: out flyers and searching, but nothing from Casey, not even 319 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: a question or discussion. And then Cindy is coddling her like, 320 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: well we can't, you know, we can't push her. You 321 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: know she'll tell us when the time is right. You know, 322 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: nobody questioned her. You know what's interesting about what you're saying, 323 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: Rob Dick, I noticed that in the jailhouse interviews, which 324 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: we're all videoed in the state of Florida, because when 325 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: Casey taught mom, Casey Anthony was questioned by her mother 326 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: Cindy or her father George, and they pressed her where 327 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: what happened? Where's Kelly? She would blow up and curse 328 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: them out, and so they really wouldn't get anywhere. And 329 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: you learn as a mother how far you can push 330 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: your child to get what you're what you want, Like 331 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: I want you to go to bed on time. I 332 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: want you to finish your biology homework. When it's too far, 333 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: and you'll get a bad reaction and you'll you'll get nowhere. 334 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: And I guess you know, for you, John Deal, it'll 335 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: be the same thing about how far you cross cross 336 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: somebody or how far you direct your own witness before 337 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: you get a blow up on the stand. But Rob Dick, 338 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: the first thing when Todd mom got out of jail, 339 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: what did she say to you? Well, she talked about 340 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: how jail was, it smelled, and she just wanted to 341 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: eat and then Cindy's like, why I made your favorite meal. 342 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's so surreal that there's nobody 343 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: talking about a missing child, you know. And one thing 344 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: I gotta say too, You know, George took a beating 345 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: in this whole process. He really did. But you know, 346 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: we knew. The very next morning, we awoke to George 347 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: losing it on Casey. I mean to the point where 348 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: he's physically shaking her. I want to know what happened. 349 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: And her response was Dad, quit acting like a fan 350 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: cop and that was it. And at that moment, I mean, 351 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: that was raw emotion. That was not stage. That was 352 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: him trying to find his granddaughter, knowing that she's the 353 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: only one in the world that knew what happened, and 354 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: he wasn't buying it. Then, you know, Nancy, we saw 355 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: examples of Casey bullying Cindy in the jailhouse interviews. When 356 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: Cindy calls Casey, Casey says, mom, mom, and she starts 357 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: questioning her mother about her boyfriends. She's not talking about Kayley, 358 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: the missing baby. She's pressuring her mother to get information 359 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: on her dating life. I want you to hear following 360 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: up on what Rob Dick just told us about the 361 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: Casey taught mom Casey Anthony's story that her dad drowned 362 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: Kelly in the pool or she accidentally drowned, and that 363 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: he just decided to wrap her up and duct tape 364 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: and throw her in the woods in a garbage bag. 365 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut fourteen. This is George 366 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: Anthony speaking to our friend to feel and if this 367 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: scenario that Casey had had told to her defense about 368 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: Kayley drowning, why go through all this elaborate stuff to 369 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: tap her up, to put her in a launder bag, 370 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: to put her in a trash bag and burry her 371 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: in the woods. I can't comprehend how human doing suppose 372 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: your daughter doing that to my granddaughter. I can't. I 373 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: can't visualize that. I don't want to visualize that. And 374 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: you know, Rob Dick, I know that I'm projecting right 375 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: now and that my experience made me different from somebody else's. 376 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: But my fiance was murdered. I could not eat for 377 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how long. I lost down to eighty 378 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: nine pounds. I dropped out of school. I couldn't hear 379 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,239 Speaker 1: the radio, I couldn't hear the TV. I couldn't hear 380 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: the clock on the wall ticking. My mom had to 381 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: stop the clocks. According to you, when she first got 382 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: out of prison, her words of war, jail, food sucks, 383 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: Glad to be home. Yeah, and again, I just keep 384 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: going back. There was no talk about it. You know. 385 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: There was only one time where we actually thought there 386 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: was some emotion coming out of her. We heard the 387 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: noise she has gone into her room and we had 388 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: heard a noise like almost like she was crying, and 389 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: we're going, oh my gosh, maybe she's finally going to 390 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: so some emotion to go in there. And she's laughing. 391 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: She's laughing because some guy thought she was hot on 392 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: social media. When did she ask you about cameras being outside? 393 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: It was almost a daily event whenever we went to 394 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: Bias's office or home confinement, when we had to go 395 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: from point A to point B, she would come from 396 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: the house and first thing in the car would be 397 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: having seen all the cameras out there? How many cameras. 398 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: The one time when she's wearing those white rim sunglasses, 399 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: she tells me, look at me today, I looked like 400 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: Jackie O. There's nothing about a missing girl. It was 401 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: a fun show for her deal, John W. Deal, high 402 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: profile lawyer out of Florida. He is intimately familiar with 403 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: this case because he represented the real Zanada Gonzalez, who 404 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: sued taught Mom for besmirching her, dragging her name through 405 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: the mud, claims she was a child kidnapper. Did you 406 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: hear that? How many cameras are out there? I look 407 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: like Jackie, Oh, are you surprised at all? She's turned 408 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: up back on camera again? And what is the motivation now? Fame? Notoriety, money? 409 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: What I think? It's always yeah, same notoriety. I don't 410 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: know about money. I don't know if there's any money 411 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: in this for her. But you know, again, it's always 412 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: been about her, you know, sociopath as far as the 413 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: way she describes things, and just continually what they call congtabulation, 414 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: making up things, taking a little bit of information standing it. 415 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to what she's going to what 416 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: she's going to say on this so called interviews, because 417 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: it's been just constant lies all the way through. Why 418 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: are you looking forward to it? It's nothing but lies. 419 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: She lied to her parents for years, claiming she had 420 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: a job, even going so far as to wear a 421 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: universal uniform and an ID. She lied to cops to 422 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: the brink until she had to admit as they were 423 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: walking into Universal that hey, I don't really work here. 424 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: She lied about Zenaida Gonzalez, She lied about everything. She 425 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: did not take the stand because she could not undergo 426 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: cross examination, and most critically, in my mind, while the baby, 427 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: her daughter Kelley, was quote missing, she remained silent, never 428 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: asking for help, never making a public appeal, never conducting searches, nothing, nothing. 429 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: Why do you want to hear what she says? It's 430 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: lies again, just to see how far the lies will continue, 431 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,479 Speaker 1: you know. Keep in mind we trying to depose her 432 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: as well after she was acquitted, and she showed a 433 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: deposition and by a closer to TV in the craziest 434 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: disguise I've ever seen. Obviously just wanted to be seen. 435 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: And then wait, what does she have on? She had 436 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: on Phillies baseball cap, a dark sunglasses, and a like 437 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: a witch type of wig, a really really dark black wig. 438 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: And h I just remember seeing her on the on 439 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: the screen and my partner at the time, John Morgan, 440 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: just said, my god, that was the only thing you 441 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: could say. So obviously an intention of secrets at the 442 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: very end time stories with Nancy Grace to doddor Besany Marshall. Um, 443 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: I know you will recall her behavior during the time 444 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: the search was for Kelly. But I want to talk 445 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: about appearing on the Peacock Quote documentary three part series. 446 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: People apparently are interested in what lie she's going to 447 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: tell this time, But you know what, to me, it's 448 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: akin to have you ever been to the zoo and 449 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: you can smell the snake house at a distance? Have 450 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: you ever been to the zoo? I don't know if 451 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: you're a zoo person. Yeah, okay, I've been to all 452 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: kinds of zoos with the twins. That's our thing, going 453 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: to zoos. You know you can smell the snake house 454 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: far away, not the monkey house, not the wild other 455 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: thing house, but the snake house or I can't anyway, 456 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: and I hate them. I don't like them there. I 457 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: can't think of any other animal or creature I feel 458 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: that way about. But I will go in there because 459 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: the twins want to go in there. And I stay 460 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: at a distance, and yes, I look at them through 461 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: the glass, but I can't wait to get away from them. 462 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: I certainly don't want to hold one That's how I 463 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: view taught mom Casey Anthony and her upcoming star turn 464 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: on Peacock. Well, I think there has been from the 465 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: very beginning such lurid fascination with the way in which 466 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,719 Speaker 1: Casey lies that I think that kind of gripped the public, 467 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: and that's why this Peacock special is has been caped. 468 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: You know, she lied about her own pregnancy. She lied 469 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: and threw her father, George under the bus. She told 470 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: her attorney that her own brother had molested her. Those 471 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: are lies. Why I just got to say, George Anthony 472 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with baby Kelly's disappearance in death. 473 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: And I do not believe what she said about Lee Anthony, 474 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: the brother. I don't believe it. That's right. So the 475 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: way she lied about this from the stand, there was 476 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: such verbal versatility, The lies rolled off her tongue. She 477 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: did not lie from the stand. She never took a sand. 478 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: You know, her images were plastered on the media so much. 479 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: I think I imagine she took the stand and I 480 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: think her images were plastered so many times. Is that 481 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: just like uh, looking at the at the snake exhibited 482 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: the school at the zoo, we were all fascinated with 483 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: her life because they came so fast and furious. And 484 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: what I think is fascinating about this case is that 485 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: she even embroiled her own parents in the life. Do 486 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: you remember when Cindy took the stand and said that 487 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: she was the one who searched for chloroform? So not 488 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: only did Casey lie, then she began to compel her 489 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: own family to lie. And then the stories just became 490 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: thicker and thicker. And I think that, you know, the 491 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: public is very vulnerable to lies. I think they're they're 492 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: fascinated by it, but I think they they want to see, like, 493 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: what is Casey Anthony gonna say? Now, well, I have 494 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: news for you. She's going to say the same thing 495 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: she always did. She's just gonna I and lie in life. 496 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: You know, I think this period of Casey's life was 497 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: very exciting for her. Well, I mean you heard what 498 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: Rob Dick said. She's had many cameras are out there, 499 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: Hey look at me, Jackie and ask us. And this 500 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: is while her daughter's missing and her father's out in 501 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: the hot sun manning a HQ to find the baby. 502 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: Was that you jumping in Dick? Yeah? Can I add, yes, 503 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: you know it's It's not something that she was great 504 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: at lying. It's something that she's lied all her life. 505 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: I mean even before this, you know, she's bragging about 506 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: she's working on two college degrees. She hasn't even finished 507 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: high school. She doesn't have a babysitter, she always had 508 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: a nanny. It was always her projecting herself to be 509 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: bigger than she really was. Why don't you call her 510 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: the crew's director because that was her attitude the whole time. 511 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: She had just you know, you imagine a cruise director 512 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: is just always that bubbly, Hey, let's have fun. Today's 513 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: about me and we're going to do something fun. It's 514 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: not oh my gosh, I'm sitting in the corner crying 515 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: because I don't know where my daughter is. I sure 516 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: as h W wouldn't be in the corner my child 517 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: is missing. I would be out there looking everywhere. I 518 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: can even imagine. And the whole time, you got John 519 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: w Deal, this high profile lawyer representing the so called 520 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: nanny who says, I've never met this woman. What is 521 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: she talking about? To Alexis Terrestchuck joining US Crime online 522 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: dot Com investigative reporter, Hi, Alexis, take a listen, inside edition. 523 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: For the first time, we're seeing body camp footage of 524 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: cops responding to Casey Anthony's nine one call. This girl 525 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: has been harassing me for a while. The woman in 526 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: the fedora is Casey Anthony, the notorious mom who was 527 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: acquitted ten years ago for the murder of her daughter Kayley. 528 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: We the jury finally defendant not guilty. Now she's back 529 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: in the news and in a familiar setting, a bar. 530 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: She's telling a cop that the altercation at the bar 531 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: in Florida was over a guy. Why did she like 532 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: what happened the same person for a couple of years, 533 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: Malcolm Alison with your partner, one of your sergeants. That's right. 534 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: The guy Casey says they were arguing over is a 535 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: police sergeant in West Palm Beach. Whether they're together not together. 536 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: She got upset that he had texted me. I let 537 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: her know that he had and she came aside with 538 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: joy drink. Her name is Almamoya. Okay, let me get 539 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: this trade to license tresscheck. She doesn't call nine one 540 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: one when her daughter goes missing, but she does call 541 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: nilone one when her blouse gets wet at a bar 542 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 1: exactly so this is in the middle of a pandemic. 543 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: She's in a bar and she says, this woman comes up, 544 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: but they've been texting. Of course, don't notice. Casey says, 545 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: they have been texting because this woman accused Casey of 546 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: hooking up with her boyfriend while this woman was still 547 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: dating him. So Casey is this woman's boyfriend is cheating 548 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: on her with Kasey Anthony. This woman's boyfriend is a 549 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 1: police officer and is hooking up with Casey Anthony, former 550 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: accused murderer, and they get so this woman comes to 551 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: a bar. They've been texting and Casey apparently is taunting her. Yes, 552 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: I did hook up with him. And this woman comes 553 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: to the bar, she throws a drink at her, big deal, 554 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: and Casey called nine one one, and then he involves 555 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: kind of everybody else in the bar, trying to get 556 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: them all on her side. But this is all caught 557 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: on body's cam footage. I bet West Palm BD is 558 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: so proud that one of their officers is dating taught 559 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: mom Casey Anthony, and not only that, gets into a 560 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: hair fight in a bar over him. Man, I would 561 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: hide in shame if I were that cop, So let 562 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: me understand. Anybody on the panel, please jump in. Here's 563 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: her chance. She's gotten out of jail, she got acquitted. 564 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 1: Here's her chance to do something good in this world. 565 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 1: Here's her chance because even the center on the side 566 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: of Christ went to heaven that night because he did 567 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: something good at the very end. Here's her a chance 568 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: to devote herself to doing good things for other people, 569 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 1: helping somebody else. And instead she pops up in the 570 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: news at bar after bar, getting in arguments, doing shots 571 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 1: and hot pants. Not that I care what she wears 572 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: or doesn't wear, not the church lady. But now we're 573 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: supposed to tune into Peacock to hear quote her truth. 574 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: What a load of bs. I mean, I could smell 575 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: it from here. I mean, does anybody disagree? Please jump in. 576 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: This is not communist China. People. You can say what 577 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: you want. The worst part is she could come out 578 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: and tell the truth and nothing had happened to her, 579 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: but you couldn't believe that her truth is never the truth. 580 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: Now and jump in. Deal now, I'm just saying it, 581 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, to think that she's going to, you know, 582 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: change into a good person. It's just it's not in 583 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: her DNA and it figures I can change the stripes. Yeah. 584 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: I always hold out hope that somebody can make a 585 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: good decision, even at the end. But it ain't happening here. 586 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: What Joe Scott, Yeah, the truth, the truth was laying 587 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 1: on that autopsy table and at an emmy's office. That 588 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: was the truth. And the problem is is that this 589 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: person has never been held accountable in her entire life, 590 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: even to the point, even to the point where she 591 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: would allow this little precious angel to decompose out in 592 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: the woods. If you want to seek truth, if you 593 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: want to know your truth, that's that's her truth. I 594 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: wonder if they're going to show Kelly Anthony's bones on 595 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: that autopsy table. I remember cops were out there morning, 596 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: noon and night under a tent with spotlights, even to 597 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: trot and find light. What are their two hundred and 598 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: fifty bones in the body? The little piece of her 599 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: finger they would find dragged around by animals. I bet 600 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: they're not going to show that, or maybe they will 601 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: for ratings, we wait as justice and false. Nancy Grace 602 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,439 Speaker 1: crimed the story, signing off Goodbye friend.