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Speaker 1: Sable advice shoe. Welcome to the not even nice shall

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Speaker 1: I'm your house strump shooter. It is Thursday, which means

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Speaker 1: our dear friend Mark Luppe Joint says, Hey, LUPI are

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Speaker 1: you there? Bilu is here? Leepilu? How are you? My friend?

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Speaker 1: You're looking good. I'm feeling good, feeling great. Happy Thursday,

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Speaker 1: good feeling great. What are your night plans? Where are

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Speaker 1: you going? Who you're going to kiss? Tell me everything.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to Florida this weekend. I'm going to St. Petersburg,

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Speaker 1: Florida for our friends bachelor party, and we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: drinking and sunning and all that stuff. Yeah, did you

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Speaker 1: pack a Speedoh? I bought some pretty short beatings. It's

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Speaker 1: not speed, but sure enough that your friends will notice

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Speaker 1: dressing room, the changing room, the bedroom in your speedo,

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Speaker 1: or somebody be like, oh, Mark, I mean they do

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Speaker 1: like attention, So it's going to be short. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: have to get a picture. Okay, let's jump into the show.

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Speaker 1: What time is it? My friends and her Caitlyn Jenner

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Speaker 1: was not invited to Courtney Kardashian's Big Italian wedding. She

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Speaker 1: didn't make the count to the to the big wedding

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Speaker 1: in Italy. So sources are telling TMZ that Courtney's former

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Speaker 1: step parent never received an invitation to this ultimate wedding

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Speaker 1: week end because they are not really very close at all.

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Speaker 1: In fact, sources say they have a very limited relationship.

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Speaker 1: Courtney and Caitlin do not really even speak to one another.

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Speaker 1: They don't really speak on the phone, they don't email

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Speaker 1: each other, they certainly don't see each other in person.

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Speaker 1: They've not done that for a really long time, so

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Speaker 1: Cornely didn't really feel like it was necessary to invite Catlin.

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Speaker 1: That Caitlin did not sit at Homeboard while the party

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Speaker 1: was going on. She made her way to bass A

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Speaker 1: Lona to watch a racing tree team, so she was

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Speaker 1: having fun, but nevertheless, her stepdaughter was getting married in

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Speaker 1: Italy was not invited. Also, to let's point out that

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Speaker 1: Rob Kardashian he also too sat out this big, big wedding.

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Speaker 1: Although the differences Rob was invited and that is a

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Speaker 1: big difference. Mark, I'd love to be invited, even though

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Speaker 1: do like to be listening. I love to be invite

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Speaker 1: into events. I do. I love to see invite in

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Speaker 1: my in my inbox, in my mail box. I probably

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Speaker 1: won't come. I do love an invite. What about you?

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Speaker 1: I love invite. But here's the thing. You can trust

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Speaker 1: me your you to go and be appropriated. It's like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that they can trust Caitlin to go

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Speaker 1: because you know, just the sweet she was running her

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Speaker 1: the head. My sources tell me this is what the

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Speaker 1: biggest problem with Caitlin is. It is not that Caitlyn

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Speaker 1: certainly was a moment where the whole family had to

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Speaker 1: readjust it's a major major thing in life. What they

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Speaker 1: don't like is that they don't feel like they can

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Speaker 1: trust Caitlin. Caitlyn does do a lot of interviewers, She

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Speaker 1: and Caitlyn doesn't play by the rules. Now should family

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Speaker 1: a major decision. Well it's done just a stepparent. Rab

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Speaker 1: If you watch the show, Caitlin helped raise the whole family.

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Speaker 1: The Caitlin was very much involved. And you know so

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Speaker 1: the early season of Keeping Up with the Credassians, Bruce

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Speaker 1: So it kind of breaks my heart to see how

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Speaker 1: like where Caitlin stands on several issues. And you know what,

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Speaker 1: So with my family, we can say no politics, nobody

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Speaker 1: to here your results. Halopy, what are you working on? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I have a kind of a sad story for you, Rob,

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Speaker 1: So Arosmith Stephen Tyler has entered rehab and has canceled

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Speaker 1: well being. Now the stepent red Rob. As many of

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Speaker 1: sobriety for many years after foot surgery to prepare for

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Speaker 1: to concentrate on his health and recovery. Wow, m you know,

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Speaker 1: and this is pretty sad. In his two autobiography, he

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Speaker 1: admitted that for many, many years he indulged in marijuana, oxicantin, heroin, methanthenamine,

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Speaker 1: Friends that I know who have been addicts are always

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Speaker 1: very aware of it. Mark They've never ever been able

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Speaker 1: help Hey Moving along, Oprah has urged eleanor what she

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Speaker 1: and it's something that Oprah did not do. So a

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Speaker 1: It's sort of great to see it. Oprah actually said

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Speaker 1: She said, it becomes your home. And she said you

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