Speaker 1: The bars.
Speaker 2: Yo, it's your boy, calm nasty alongside your dad, not
Speaker 2: my dad, Taylor Lawana. When I say alongside, he's absolutely
Speaker 2: not here next to me. I'm sitting in the closet
Speaker 2: at my house right now shooting this intro for you
Speaker 2: beautiful sexy looking pups. Dude. It is a great day
Speaker 2: to be us. It is a great day to be
Speaker 2: a fucking wolf, dude. And I don't know why I'm
Speaker 2: bleeping myself out. It's a great day to be a
Speaker 2: fucking wolf because I tell you what, this podcast is
Speaker 2: so much more stress free when the city of Nashville wins, dude,
Speaker 2: When the Titans win, When the Vandy Boys shout out
Speaker 2: anchor the fuck down, Dude, shout out the Vandy Boys
Speaker 2: pulling off a big upset against Miszoo, Shout out to Titans, dude.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, man, When it is when it
Speaker 2: gets rough, when the waves get a little choppy out
Speaker 2: there for the Titans. Man, people come after us. Even
Speaker 2: though these are pods we shot in the off season,
Speaker 2: way ahead of schedule, it's the same thing. Like I
Speaker 2: was sorry, excuse me, I was thinking I was watching
Speaker 2: the games yesterday and I saw the awesome you know,
Speaker 2: First State commercials and Mahomes and them on there. Mahomes
Speaker 2: is hurt right now, but he still got this All
Speaker 2: State commercial going and he shot that in the offseason obviously,
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, like, why aren't people blowing him up? Hey, man,
Speaker 2: don't be injured in shooting commercials. It's literally like it's
Speaker 2: kind of it's kind of similar, right, but I'm sitting there.
Speaker 2: But regardless, it is great when the City of Nashville
Speaker 2: wins because it's a lot more stress free when this
Speaker 2: podcast gets to do its staying dude, and not that
Speaker 2: you guys come after our throat, because you guys don't.
Speaker 2: You guys are like fucking John Snow in season six
Speaker 2: about all the bastards, dude. When the Bolton family they're
Speaker 2: they're they're about to come in the field and John
Speaker 2: Snow just goes up by himself. He just whips out
Speaker 2: that sword and he's just facing the whole, the whole
Speaker 2: damn army dude, ready to take everything on. That's how
Speaker 2: I feel about you guys. When something happens on social
Speaker 2: media and people are ready to have our fucking back, dude,
Speaker 2: and it's awesome. But with the heat. Reminder that the
Speaker 2: podcast is shot ahead of time. These episodes, our backlog, bankroll,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call him, they're in the library.
Speaker 2: So no worries about that. Tailgate was awesome yesterday, had
Speaker 2: a lot of fun, beautiful day again, big by the Titans.
Speaker 2: You know the boy Matt Neely, he would have been
Speaker 2: ecstatic about the tailgate we put together, the beautiful weather.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he had a lot to do with it.
Speaker 2: He had a lot, you know that. You know Matt
Speaker 2: Neely was in there somewhere stripping that ball out for
Speaker 2: the Titans yesterday on that last play. But the tailgate
Speaker 2: was awesome. Man. We had a wake and a celebration
Speaker 2: for Matt Neely, raised a lot of money for his family.
Speaker 2: It was a great time. If you guys can get
Speaker 2: out to our tailgates in the future, there they'll be
Speaker 2: for every home game. Actually, I think we're taking a
Speaker 2: break this weekend because our MVP, which I can go
Speaker 2: ahead and plug now. Our MVP, Hunter Briley's out of
Speaker 2: town and Hunter Briley is the reason. Hunter Briley and
Speaker 2: Matt and Neely were the reasons we made these tailgates happen.
Speaker 2: Hunter Briley is our sponsor of Regal Realty, the Regal
Speaker 2: Realty Group. You can find them at regal rg dot com.
Speaker 2: He's everything from commercial, residential, investment and abby And also
Speaker 2: it seems like Tailgate specializing in tailgating. The dude I'm
Speaker 2: finding out secretly runs Nashville. So you guys need to
Speaker 2: hit up Hunter and get him as a damn mentor
Speaker 2: or something. If you don't have anything real estate of mind.
Speaker 2: But if you've got real estate in mind them up
Speaker 2: six one five six through zero nine seven three five.
Speaker 2: If you don't feel like calling him, text him, tell
Speaker 2: him the boys sent you, and he's gonna get you
Speaker 2: taken care of.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: He's an absolute stud. And also for the Tailgate shout
Speaker 2: out are insanely popular brand sponsor Anheuser Busch and the
Speaker 2: boys out in Saint Louis out in Ajax Turner, the
Speaker 2: local distributor out here around Nashville. Ajax Turner. Shout out
Speaker 2: to those boys. Man, They've gotten us taken care of
Speaker 2: for tailgating, for just everything, man. And we're really we're
Speaker 2: really trying to do our part with the hashtag don't
Speaker 2: give a the boys. Really we're Taylor and I are
Speaker 2: really on board that ship, dude, because obviously under the
Speaker 2: Anheuser Bush you got the bud, the butt heavy, the
Speaker 2: bud light, the Natty light, the natter days. I know
Speaker 2: I'm forgetting a lot because you know CTE, but specifically
Speaker 2: those Catalina line mixers and a low hot beaches baby.
Speaker 2: We are selling out for those bad boys and they
Speaker 2: taste good man and it's it's, you know, a little
Speaker 2: background on him that's six percent, a little subtle six
Speaker 2: percent hitter in there so you get where you're going faster. So, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you hat take pictures with them, hashtag us
Speaker 2: or mention us and give the hashtag don't give a
Speaker 2: and what we mean by that, don't give up mentality
Speaker 2: because people think Seltzer's are quote unquote soft. You just
Speaker 2: suddenly look at them with your beautiful for the boy's hat, dude,
Speaker 2: you just take a look at him and you say, look, dude,
Speaker 2: I absolutely don't give a about your opinion. And I'm
Speaker 2: gonna sit here and drink it. You can watch me
Speaker 2: if you want. If it bothers you, then so be it, dude.
Speaker 2: But we absolutely don't give out here. Hashtag again, hashtag
Speaker 2: don't give us so we can show you, highlight you
Speaker 2: on our YouTube videos, shout you out, do all that
Speaker 2: fun stuff that we do interacting on social media. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what a subtle little climber up the ladder
Speaker 2: in that ain'heuser bush umbrella and I just identified it
Speaker 2: is that little Bone and Viv dude, that little Seltzer,
Speaker 2: those pure like sparkling waters with just that alcohol with
Speaker 2: like zero calories, Those little subtle heavy hitters. Dude, they
Speaker 2: got the little mermaids on the can. I am a
Speaker 2: huge fan of the Bone and Viv Dude. They got
Speaker 2: all these different flavors, so you know, I know I'm
Speaker 2: plucking that one hard. But hey, that's one of the
Speaker 2: boys phads right there outside the Seltzers. But shout out
Speaker 2: and Huyser Busch and Ajax Turner, we love you, we
Speaker 2: appreciate you. Guys, help us out take picts with all
Speaker 2: the all the goodies and tagus um leads me into
Speaker 2: my next thing. At the tailgate, we were singeing a
Speaker 2: lot of breast cancer awareness t shirts. We have our
Speaker 2: first for the girls. If you're not for the girls,
Speaker 2: you're against them shirts made they're in pink. They got
Speaker 2: the Breast Cancer Awareness ribbon on them. Proceeds are going
Speaker 2: to breast cancer research. Also, our first hoodie was the
Speaker 2: for the Girls hoodie with the breast cancer Awareness ribbon,
Speaker 2: So go buy those up. Proceeds are going to breast
Speaker 2: cancer research. And we're doing a lot of awesome things
Speaker 2: there because you know, the boys ain't shit without the girls, dude,
Speaker 2: and so shout out the girls out there. If you're
Speaker 2: not form, you're against them. And also those spooktober Teas
Speaker 2: And a little side note with spootober Man. Amazing job
Speaker 2: selling out for Spooktobra and doing it with us. It's
Speaker 2: Taylor's beautiful baby. He got me on board last year
Speaker 2: and we were absolutely loving the content you guys are
Speaker 2: giving us and keeping up watching spooks every night, going
Speaker 2: on to hounded houses on the weekend. The boys actually
Speaker 2: went to a haunted house over the weekend. It was
Speaker 2: a Nashville nightmare. I highly reckon it. A very good spook,
Speaker 2: a very good scare of a nice little fright Nashville
Speaker 2: nightmare of nightmare in Nashville. One of those things wanted
Speaker 2: something like that. But hey, if you if one of
Speaker 2: those workers out there listening to this right now, get
Speaker 2: the lines, let the group go, and wait sixty seconds
Speaker 2: before the other group goes, dude, because we were absolutely
Speaker 2: pissed at one point when we walked up on a
Speaker 2: group and then the other group was behind us like
Speaker 2: a little group sandwich, and we were like, Yo, this
Speaker 2: is not spooky at all. Stop trying to fucking scare us,
Speaker 2: because this is now bullshit. Now I'm pissed off. But
Speaker 2: other than that solid four point five spook, it was
Speaker 2: actually it was a really good time. The first one's
Speaker 2: a banger. A lot of people go there's super popular.
Speaker 2: Look up nightmare in Nashville. That Haunted House is very solid.
Speaker 2: There's like four or five of them. Reminder about the pod,
Speaker 2: these were shot ahead of time. I might have already
Speaker 2: said that against CTE. I apologize. Our guest today, dude,
Speaker 2: our very first female guest is none other than the
Speaker 2: legendary Sean Johnson. And if you don't know who Sean
Speaker 2: Johnson is, number one hashed, don't give I respect it.
Speaker 2: But number two, you got to get versed in who
Speaker 2: Sean Johnson is. She's an American legend, she's a gymnast.
Speaker 2: Who you know those a squad of like four gymnasts
Speaker 2: or that gymnast team, like back in the two thousands.
Speaker 2: I say two thousands, like it's still the two thousands.
Speaker 2: The Olympic Games, the World Championship, Pan Am Games. Just
Speaker 2: to give you a little background information. She's had ten
Speaker 2: gold medals, six silver, no bronze because she she ain't
Speaker 2: about that life, dude. She brings home the hardware, bro
Speaker 2: But she was part of that little dream team that
Speaker 2: was on every commercial Wheaties box, everything known to man
Speaker 2: out there. Grew up in Des Moines, Iowa. Standing at
Speaker 2: a strong four foot eleven. She came on the bus, dude,
Speaker 2: and she's just like looking at my belly button on
Speaker 2: my Headge, just go take a seat over there, and
Speaker 2: your husband, we'll get him in DA's chair right here.
Speaker 2: But standing at a strong four foot eleven dude in
Speaker 2: an absolute stud was a prodigy at a young age.
Speaker 2: And you know, we talk about her journey and how
Speaker 2: stressful and everything that was growing up and literally eat breeze,
Speaker 2: sleep everything you know, gymnasts or Jim or whatever you know,
Speaker 2: whatever you say there balance beamshit. Her husband Andrew East
Speaker 2: stud as well. He got my number from the boys
Speaker 2: out in DC, the Redskins. He's a long snapper. He's
Speaker 2: kind of a journeyman long snapper. He's been on eight
Speaker 2: different teams, eight different teams in three years. And to
Speaker 2: give you guys a little perspective on what that's like,
Speaker 2: my man travels around and goes to a pallethora of
Speaker 2: workouts for teams. Right he was on the Kansas City Chief,
Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks, Oakland Raiders, lost in La Rams, Oakland Raiders again,
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars, Memphis Express. So not even in the NFL,
Speaker 2: but the boy's still out there grinding. Washington Redskins. All
Speaker 2: these different teams man in three years, and these aren't
Speaker 2: I'm not even saying teams where he worked out. He
Speaker 2: worked out for plenty of other teams too. And what
Speaker 2: I respect about him as I went when I was
Speaker 2: looking him up and on his YouTube channel, Andrew East,
Speaker 2: go check him out. And also the East family, they
Speaker 2: have like a billion subscribers and they're all about that
Speaker 2: ooey gooey family, corny, lovey dovey stuff. But hey, I
Speaker 2: fucking respect it, dude, because they're doing the damn thing.
Speaker 2: But no, he kind of documents every time he travels around,
Speaker 2: so before he goes in and doesn't work out, he's
Speaker 2: like got his phone in his face and kind of
Speaker 2: backing everybody, Hey, I'm traveling here this week. It's been stressful.
Speaker 2: You know, my wife is going through this, but I
Speaker 2: had to go here. He he uh documents. After the workout,
Speaker 2: he's like, hey, I think I killed it. They said
Speaker 2: a lot of good things. Yeah, he got it. He's like, hey,
Speaker 2: I made the team. And then literally like two days
Speaker 2: letter he's like, hey I got cut. He's standing out
Speaker 2: on the parking lot kind of talking about it and
Speaker 2: just you kind of you're kind of on this journey
Speaker 2: with him. It was really cool to kind of watch
Speaker 2: and kind of get that perspective because when guys are
Speaker 2: kind of shuffled in and out and you're on the team,
Speaker 2: you're on the NFL team, and you see these guys
Speaker 2: getting shuffled in and out, you don't think nothing of it.
Speaker 2: It's just like all another face in their body, you know,
Speaker 2: another victim taken. But you kind of get some you
Speaker 2: kind of get some insight and perspective on what he
Speaker 2: goes through. So go check him out. He's also got
Speaker 2: a podcast called Directed Very insightfully sits down and has
Speaker 2: conversations and kind of where people redirect their lives and
Speaker 2: their process on how they became successful. Just he sits
Speaker 2: down with a magnitude of people and it's really cool.
Speaker 2: So go check them out. But you know, I'm gonna stop.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop rambling on guys. Your dad, your boy,
Speaker 2: your dad, Taylor One, your boycom nasty. We love you,
Speaker 2: We appreciate you. You guys are nothing but phenomenal. Keep doing
Speaker 2: your thing on social media for us. Give us a follow,
Speaker 2: share our stuff, shout us out, do all that stuff.
Speaker 2: We really, we really do appreciate it. Go subscribe to
Speaker 2: our YouTube. That's kind of the one we're really we're
Speaker 2: trying to build right now is that YouTube channel. But again, man, guys,
Speaker 2: much appreciated. We love you, We thank you. And also
Speaker 2: you know what, like hashtag don't give it, dude, go
Speaker 2: be a fucking wolf today, Blossy drop this beautiful piece
Speaker 2: for the boys. Everybody spoke so highly. You got there, dude.
Speaker 2: I miss I miss the voice at the Red Man.
Speaker 2: We had a lot of fun. We had a lot
Speaker 2: of fun and like Tress and Hop in Snburg, like
Speaker 2: those were all like I rolled with them, and I
Speaker 2: mean really everybody. I was there for like five years,
Speaker 2: so I was tight with everybody. I'm sure you got
Speaker 2: close with like Gabby. Yeah. Yeah, Gabby and Brie. They
Speaker 2: have twins now.
Speaker 1: My gosh, they with us. They're the cutest old kids
Speaker 1: in the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, your house though, bro, without you even knowing it?
Speaker 2: Oh really? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Ok?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that was the house I bought going into
Speaker 2: my last year, and yeah, Hop and Gabby rented out
Speaker 2: and I had went back to get furniture to move it.
Speaker 2: My girlfriend and I we just moved out here on
Speaker 2: the West End, and so we were kind of gathering
Speaker 2: furniture and we went back and I asked Hop. I
Speaker 2: was like, hey, man, are you are you? Are you
Speaker 2: the only one living here? And uh he was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I have. We have a couple of people that house
Speaker 2: it for us, but it's just to look over the house.
Speaker 2: And uh. I was like, I mean it seems like,
Speaker 2: I was like, are you sure you I'm allowed to
Speaker 2: take this stuff? Because I was like, it seems like
Speaker 2: they're they're set up in the house, like I'll be
Speaker 2: messing a lot of stuff up, and uh, how long
Speaker 2: did you stay with him.
Speaker 3: We were I mean, I was only after for three
Speaker 3: weeks last last season, so he housed us for like
Speaker 3: two of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know who it was. It was like
Speaker 2: a buddy and they had like their their individual photos
Speaker 2: and a couple's photos in the bathroom. In the bathroom, yeah,
Speaker 2: the babysitter. And I was like, there there's photos all up.
Speaker 2: I was like, I can't even tell you guys live here.
Speaker 2: I was like, so I need to take these tables
Speaker 2: and couches and beds. And I was like, are you
Speaker 2: sure it's okay. He's like, yeah, man, that's fine. You know,
Speaker 2: hop super cool. And then like fast forward a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks, he calls and he was like, hey, man,
Speaker 2: I appreciate you kind of letting me know. He's like,
Speaker 2: we had no idea that they were done. It didn't know.
Speaker 2: I guess so I didn't know. Yeah, somebody was like
Speaker 2: I think I was talking to ion Itis because I
Speaker 2: and Iice was helping me do stuff. I was I
Speaker 2: think other people, Yeah, I love Ioniis. I was like,
Speaker 2: I think other people are living in this house and
Speaker 2: he's like that doesn't make you feel a certain way.
Speaker 2: I was like, no, man, I respect the hustle. Like
Speaker 2: if Hop's like, if they're going and they have another
Speaker 2: couple in here and they're charging them rents, so then
Speaker 2: he can kind of finance my side of the rent.
Speaker 2: I was like, I respect the hustle, so I'm not
Speaker 2: going to get mad, and he's like, dude, I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: And then I kind of was telling Hop then yeah,
Speaker 2: A couple of weeks later, he was like, hey, I
Speaker 2: appreciate we had no idea that people were that they
Speaker 2: were like living here full time like that. I'm talking photos, pictures.
Speaker 2: I was moving stuff. I was like, I feel bad
Speaker 2: about moving this because some people are like like for
Speaker 2: sure they're going to come back, and like, yo, we're
Speaker 2: in the hell did the TV go in the living room?
Speaker 2: Like a table, beds everywhere?
Speaker 1: Didn't you walk in on the confrontation of it?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were there when it split up. Happens happened
Speaker 3: with the roommates. Really, I've never been a part of
Speaker 3: anything like that, but it was crazy. Nah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was like they were moving all their stuff out
Speaker 3: and they came back and like no eye contact made.
Speaker 3: You could tell there's a lot of salt in the room.
Speaker 3: Oh you know, Hop and Gab. We were just trying
Speaker 3: to play cool and call him and relax.
Speaker 2: Yeah, super awesome people. I love those guys, man. So
Speaker 2: then when you came you came to the Redskins, I
Speaker 2: even forget what happened. Like Twitter's just fun, and do
Speaker 2: you remember do you remember when we were tweeting.
Speaker 3: Or something, so our first interaction I had. I had
Speaker 3: some grievance against you will because you because somebody tweeted
Speaker 3: out like I can't wait to see tress Nick Hop
Speaker 3: and Andrew East on the field, uh in Nashville. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and you were like, yeah, me neither dot that dot,
Speaker 3: but who's Andrew East? I was like, what's up, dude?
Speaker 2: Oh man? And then I was like I sent the gift,
Speaker 2: like I'm not calling him dad or something like that
Speaker 2: cop you'd like him or something. Oh man, I miss
Speaker 2: all those guys. But uh, yeah, you were on the
Speaker 2: Redskins and you've been on every fucking NFL team, but
Speaker 2: you're like, we're you're like the Josh McCown of special
Speaker 2: of a long snapper without the Josh McCown like money
Speaker 2: and contracting year. And then ye're out.
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, I wouldn't mind that part of it,
Speaker 3: but had.
Speaker 1: Some good times. We've been all over. We moved to
Speaker 1: Oakland for the Raiders the morning after a wedding. That
Speaker 1: was that was a fun one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw that. I saw the video where you
Speaker 2: guys had your wedding and then the next morning you
Speaker 2: go out to the Raiders. Raiders try you out? Like
Speaker 2: what three times?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Are you in here to try out? Because maybe I oversew.
Speaker 3: I'm like, they signed me three times.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I was signed?
Speaker 2: So you went there? Okay, did you go there? You
Speaker 2: worked out and probably did a physical.
Speaker 3: I was signed a contract. There were times with them,
Speaker 3: he was really and I just keep getting cut in camp.
Speaker 3: That's my m O.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, dude, I've signed like all the contracts.
Speaker 2: How many? So how many teams have you been on?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: So seven? I was on an Alliance of American Football.
Speaker 2: I saw that.
Speaker 3: So I've been on seven pro teams, including the Memphis
Speaker 3: team there and signed nine contracts. Ahly, dude, that's a journey,
Speaker 3: but you know how it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is a fucking journey. I mean that's
Speaker 2: how that's how it works, dude, it's like a it's
Speaker 2: like a revolving door, like guys will come in and out,
Speaker 2: and sometimes you don't know if you should get to
Speaker 2: know somebody or not, because the next day they can
Speaker 2: be gone. And who's the team you were there long?
Speaker 2: Who's the longest you were with the team?
Speaker 3: I guess technically the Redskins?
Speaker 2: Really, yeah? Is the Redskins? Where you were?
Speaker 3: That was my first regular season game I played, really
Speaker 3: my fifty year in I played my first game.
Speaker 2: I was, uh, I hate, I hate to roup because
Speaker 2: I want to continue talking about that. But we have
Speaker 2: sewn on the bus too. And Shawn's actually the superstar. No,
Speaker 2: she's the Olympian gold medals and silver right, yeah, gold
Speaker 2: and silver medalists. You were like a prodigy as a kid,
Speaker 2: and you guys are coming on the bus and I
Speaker 2: was kind of telling him, I'm like, yo, uh, Andrew
Speaker 2: hit me up and he wanted to kind of collab
Speaker 2: and they had to come on the bus and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: no doubt. And I'm sitting here like figuring out how
Speaker 2: do I even interview both of them at the same
Speaker 2: time because they each have such like deep level stories
Speaker 2: about where stuff goes and where your journey is and
Speaker 2: like you do with your podcast, and uh, I'm sitting here.
Speaker 2: I'm like, how do I even sit here and go
Speaker 2: back and forth and talk like what was it like
Speaker 2: being a under pressure for your entire life as a gymnast?
Speaker 2: And then it's like, how do you fly in and
Speaker 2: out to every airport within within one season? How many
Speaker 2: teams were you on? What were the most teams you
Speaker 2: were on within one year?
Speaker 3: Three I was on It was the Seahawks here, I
Speaker 3: guess just to Seahawks.
Speaker 2: But you went out and tried out at numerous spots.
Speaker 1: Redskins, you signed three contracts.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll trust you. This is what cool. This is
Speaker 3: what's cool though, And I'm super thankful to have married
Speaker 3: this chick. There's nobody else, honestly that probably would have
Speaker 3: put up with the Shenanigans of the NFL having to
Speaker 3: move around like at split seconds notice besides her, Like
Speaker 3: just thinking about she went pro when she was twelve
Speaker 3: and left home and had that instability like for a
Speaker 3: long time. So it's cool just to think like how
Speaker 3: that kind of worked out, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like now I want to go over. I'm like,
Speaker 2: you left home to go pro at twelve years old.
Speaker 2: I did as a gymnast, and it's like, what in
Speaker 2: the hell does that even entail? Like going pro at twelve.
Speaker 1: Years old, that's a good question. I signed my first
Speaker 1: agent when I was twelve, so professional status and going
Speaker 1: pro was basically like I made the United States national
Speaker 1: team at twelve years old and then I signed an
Speaker 1: agent at twelve, which sounds so ridiculous, but I would
Speaker 1: travel to Houston once a month for a week and
Speaker 1: a half and train there and then go back and
Speaker 1: forth between every country in the world and then Iowa,
Speaker 1: which is where I lived, and then trained in Houston.
Speaker 2: So oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so NFL is nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, it's like you say,
Speaker 2: there's nobody else that can that. You having somebody like
Speaker 2: that who understands the complete business side of everything. Everybody
Speaker 2: thinks it's like such a such glamour and nice fairy
Speaker 2: tale like the business it's super We're all super grateful,
Speaker 2: like it's a blessing, like nobody gets to kind of
Speaker 2: do this stuff we get to do. But at the
Speaker 2: same time, those like behind the scenes grind of an
Speaker 2: athlete and just going through it and you went through it.
Speaker 2: You did. You you played at Vanderbilt. Yeah, man, yeah,
Speaker 2: were you there when I when I spoke to the team.
Speaker 2: When did you speak to Probably the year after I
Speaker 2: came in, So they brought Yeah, it was crazy, they
Speaker 2: brought me. Yeah, it was crazy. Dobson. Were you with
Speaker 2: Dobson at all? One year with James Dobson. So, James Dobson,
Speaker 2: he was a strength coach Nebraska. Yeah, he was my
Speaker 2: strength coach at Nebraska all five years I was there.
Speaker 1: You played in Nebraska?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Cornhusker. That's right. I know you are idiots
Speaker 2: out wondering around, but uh, yeah, there you go. But
Speaker 2: I saw I knew Dobson super close with Dobson because
Speaker 2: he was like he was there the whole time I
Speaker 2: was in Nebraska, and then in some off seasons I
Speaker 2: would come back and kind of consult if I learned
Speaker 2: anything new from him, and I would train at Bendi
Speaker 2: for like a few days at a time and a
Speaker 2: mirror of Doulah. And I came back one year and
Speaker 2: he had me speak. He had me speak to the team.
Speaker 2: I was super nervous, but uh, he had me speak
Speaker 2: to the team and just kind of talk about my
Speaker 2: story and some beliefs I have and how I go
Speaker 2: about daily stuff and this and that. And my speech
Speaker 2: to the team came right after Coach Mason just ripped
Speaker 2: the ship out of the entire squad for there was
Speaker 2: this business seminar, and guys didn't take it very seriously.
Speaker 2: They were wearing like casual clothes and not dressed up
Speaker 2: wearing suits and wearing business attire. And he came in
Speaker 2: and he was ripping them, dude, like ripping him. I'm
Speaker 2: staying at the other and I leaned to Dopts and
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, you sure this morning for me to
Speaker 2: kind of go up and speak, and he kind of
Speaker 2: just stood there. He's like, shut up, stop talking. I
Speaker 2: was like okay, And then they introduced me and I
Speaker 2: was super Oh man, it was crazy, But yeah, I
Speaker 2: train a Vandy I try them there every day.
Speaker 3: Dobson does a great job.
Speaker 2: Love do they gotta. I like the way they run
Speaker 2: everything there. You know, it's like our root for Vandy
Speaker 2: because I see what happens behind the scenes, like where
Speaker 2: they kind of like how hard it is to win
Speaker 2: football games at Vanderbilt with hell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that makes you mad. That makes me mad, though,
Speaker 3: because you got Stanford Northwestern Duke basketball. It's like, why
Speaker 3: can't Vandy be true?
Speaker 2: But you probably know Vandy seems to be their academic first.
Speaker 2: They seem to be way harder to get in and
Speaker 2: in school to play football, whereas Stanford will try and
Speaker 2: find loops and holes to get athletes to come to
Speaker 2: Stanford and get admitted. Whereas Vandy they don't care, like
Speaker 2: you have to meet certain requirements to play at Vandy.
Speaker 3: Which is a good thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at the end of the day, it is a
Speaker 2: good thing. But it's like, uh when it comes to football,
Speaker 2: Like the academic world is kind of separate from the
Speaker 2: football world, and the academics kind of runs Vandy, where
Speaker 2: Stanford you have sports and they probably co exist and
Speaker 2: sit at the table like, hey, how can we get
Speaker 2: certain guys here? Hey, how can we do this? We're
Speaker 2: in Vandy. They kind of don't don't care as much,
Speaker 2: so kinda they got it. They seem to have to
Speaker 2: go through a lot more. Yeah, because Dobson's is super
Speaker 2: leanient on guys compared to Nebraska. He's like, you don't
Speaker 2: get it, It's way different here, dude. He's like, academics
Speaker 2: take precedent way more over over Nebraska's of the world
Speaker 2: and this and that, which is.
Speaker 3: A positive surprise in Nebraska. You have a cool story
Speaker 3: though undrafted free agent. Now you're what six years.
Speaker 2: In yeah, going on seven, and it's crazy. A part
Speaker 2: of me feels a part of me feels bad not
Speaker 2: being as prepared for this interview because this morning my
Speaker 2: agent calls, I'm flying out to Saints tomorrow to do
Speaker 2: a workout. Hype, dude, I'm super hype. So by the
Speaker 2: time everybody hears this, it won't just know that this
Speaker 2: is the day where if I potentially sign with the Saints,
Speaker 2: this is the day where I'm doing a podcast with
Speaker 2: you guys. So I'm like, I have a lot of
Speaker 2: anxiety right now because I kind of do this podcast.
Speaker 2: I got my crew. We kind of just wing this
Speaker 2: shit and we're doing we're doing like all these things, dude,
Speaker 2: and keeping up with it. And it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like a separate little business that you got to
Speaker 2: work on if you want it to be good, really,
Speaker 2: and we're super committed to making it good. And then
Speaker 2: at the same time, I get done doing my early routine,
Speaker 2: like on the computer, whether it's meeting with Matt or
Speaker 2: meeting with Ryan, or meeting with somebody about the podcast.
Speaker 2: Then you go home and I got to start packing
Speaker 2: and thinking about going to Vandy and get my work
Speaker 2: out in and be completely all in on working out
Speaker 2: and being focused for football. And at the same time,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of all these new ideas for the podcast.
Speaker 2: And then I leave football, got to go get nutrition.
Speaker 2: We might have a podcast. Today. I went home, banked
Speaker 2: out food, started a load of laundry because I gotta
Speaker 2: be ready to pack tomorrow. And I'm trying to get
Speaker 2: all these things in order, and at the same time,
Speaker 2: I'm playing YouTube videos of your guys these interviews to
Speaker 2: try and learn a little bit of background before I
Speaker 2: sit down on an interview in here. And I'm texting
Speaker 2: with like, you know, the Rams and Redskins packer, Like
Speaker 2: I'm texting with all these teams that kind of brief
Speaker 2: them on, Hey, I'm flying out, making sure you know
Speaker 2: there's nothing there's nothing in the works, because either all
Speaker 2: the teams I've kind of talked to up until this point,
Speaker 2: and just a lot of anxiety going on because then
Speaker 2: I could be going tomorrow and as you know, I
Speaker 2: might not leave New Orleans after tomorrow, and then I
Speaker 2: got to think about how do I get tobywary Yeah
Speaker 2: until February, especially in a team like New Orleans or
Speaker 2: True Breez under center right, but so a lot of anxiety.
Speaker 2: So I apologize on them all over the place. Right now?
Speaker 3: Do you feel like you doing a Shawn and I
Speaker 3: have had a lot of conversations about We've put out
Speaker 3: YouTube videos, podcasts, everything. Do you feel like you doing
Speaker 3: this podcast will affect your NFL career? Like say, in
Speaker 3: a way say it. Coach listens to Will comptonce podcast
Speaker 3: Busting with the Boys, and they're like, oh, this guy
Speaker 3: is not my type. I don't want to like you
Speaker 3: go down to New Orleans and the guys like you
Speaker 3: just don't vibe with him because of what he heard
Speaker 3: on your podcast.
Speaker 2: Potentially, but also I think we've had We've had very
Speaker 2: We've had Arthur Smith and I get feedback from coaches
Speaker 2: onto these teams that I've played on or that know
Speaker 2: who I am and stuff like that, and they kind
Speaker 2: of reach out to me and talk about how much
Speaker 2: they love the podcast, and honestly, like I know what
Speaker 2: I am at this point, Like I know I can
Speaker 2: play well, and you know how the league works, Like
Speaker 2: if somebody brings me in this year, they're looking at
Speaker 2: me as a depth special teams guy right now, right
Speaker 2: unless somebody gets hurt and then they know I have
Speaker 2: starting experience, you know, being a captain all this stuff
Speaker 2: to where it's like he can plug and play. But
Speaker 2: if I don't have that opportunity to start games or
Speaker 2: play my my career prolonging even farther gets that much smaller.
Speaker 2: So if I think of it from that standpoint, this
Speaker 2: is like helping that transitional and kind of be on
Speaker 2: this journey with me and doing that. But then also
Speaker 2: if somebody gets hurt and I'm playing and I'm starting
Speaker 2: like the boy's gonna he's gonna play well, So then
Speaker 2: you don't know if I can re up again and
Speaker 2: get another year or another shot, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So like right now, I'm just having I'm just having
Speaker 2: fun doing this stuff and knowing that I'm almost thirty,
Speaker 2: and you know, the NFL like once you get on
Speaker 2: the wrong side of thirty, like that's kind of the
Speaker 2: age limit where guys start looking at you. You know,
Speaker 2: how much wear and tear does he have on his body.
Speaker 2: So if this were to be my last year, then
Speaker 2: it doesn't necessarily bother me that I have this podcast
Speaker 2: or what coaches might think about it. And then if
Speaker 2: I play well, it's almost like a boost and everything else.
Speaker 2: So I'm not too worried. I would have been super
Speaker 2: worried a few years back because the minute I wrote
Speaker 2: down in my when I would journal and write down
Speaker 2: goals for the podcast. I was looking back on it
Speaker 2: the other day because I was seeing how far we've
Speaker 2: kind of came, Taylor and I with the pod. I
Speaker 2: think it was in a journal in like twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: and it was be one of the first players active
Speaker 2: players with the podcast, be one of the first players
Speaker 2: slash coach because I've always wont to coach football as well,
Speaker 2: be one of the first players slash coach with a podcast.
Speaker 2: And then that podcast have a million all time downloads.
Speaker 2: Hey yeah, so that was like I look back on that,
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, it is crazy what is coming about
Speaker 2: from actually doing that, from looking reading that from a
Speaker 2: few years ago.
Speaker 3: So that's kind of you throw active player in there,
Speaker 3: just kind of throw a jab at me.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no. You were doing your
Speaker 2: thing though, while you were doing your thing though, while
Speaker 2: you were playing. I'm just thinking, like, it's unique what
Speaker 2: we do. Like you kind of journal and have that
Speaker 2: vlogging kind of mixed with your podcast and YouTube channel,
Speaker 2: and you with your lifestyle of like always recording the
Speaker 2: stuff you guys are doing as you guys are doing stuff.
Speaker 2: So I think that makes it super unique.
Speaker 3: A couple of things. One, it's gonna be sweet to
Speaker 3: look back on this and see what happens with the Saints.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Two, I gotta tell a quick tailor Lawan story, please
Speaker 3: do because I'm at my second My second game was
Speaker 3: the Titans in Nashville, back home. It was so awesome
Speaker 3: to like because we live here now full time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and first of all, I remember seeing you. You rock
Speaker 3: the visor all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good look.
Speaker 3: It's a good look.
Speaker 2: Got you man, you're a white but after you gotta
Speaker 2: have some swag about you. Nobody's gonna respect you. Got
Speaker 2: the towel and yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Anyway, after the game, I see some Titans players
Speaker 3: on the Redskins side sideline and Taylor he's you know,
Speaker 3: he's got.
Speaker 2: This ding j no story. I bet guys, here we go.
Speaker 3: I'm over there, like saying hello to my family because
Speaker 3: we had thirty people come out awesome, And all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, I look back and there's there's Taylor, just
Speaker 3: like holding up. He's pointing his finger like this and
Speaker 3: laughing like like Joker from Batman type of insanity out
Speaker 3: of his face. And then all of a sudden, right
Speaker 3: in front of me, a helmet from.
Speaker 2: From Josh Norman right there.
Speaker 3: Gosh, dude, if you look at the footage, I'm like
Speaker 3: standing right there like this is my second game.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. What in the hell
Speaker 2: is going on out here? Oh my goodness, man, that
Speaker 2: game was so fun, dude, just because the Redskins, Like,
Speaker 2: look at that go back for why.
Speaker 3: I think I'm about the very big Yeah, what was
Speaker 3: he doing over there, Taylor? That's what it was, old
Speaker 3: I cross in the back somewhere anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Taylor, Taylor, there's the helmet in the back. Taylor
Speaker 2: like does his little bow and arrow, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: after the game, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't know. I
Speaker 2: told him. I told him, I'm like, yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: know why you would do that, but which is It's
Speaker 2: not the best move, but it was I mean It
Speaker 2: made for a great little video and we've been trying
Speaker 2: to actually get Joe to come on the podcast, but
Speaker 2: do that game was so fun, like playing against the
Speaker 2: Skins and just being out there on the field against
Speaker 2: those guys Like I was standing there on kickoff and
Speaker 2: guys on the sideline are just like yelling at me
Speaker 2: and chirping me the entire time. It was hilarious.
Speaker 3: I gotta can I tell the Marshn Lynch story that
Speaker 3: has to do a Sean. Hey, I'm just I'm just
Speaker 3: telling stories.
Speaker 1: I'm just rolling.
Speaker 2: That's all right, this is great, this is great. We
Speaker 2: don't it's we're all here to talk about it.
Speaker 3: So I'm coming out of Vandy, it's my last year
Speaker 3: in school, and I'm like looking at the film like
Speaker 3: it's gonna be so cool. And Sean has the opportunity
Speaker 3: to go to the Super Bowl as like a Yahoo
Speaker 3: like correspondent. So we go to the media days and
Speaker 3: they want her to talk to Tom Brady and Marshawn Lynch.
Speaker 3: It was it was a patriot.
Speaker 2: I know she was a big You were working for
Speaker 2: Yahoo Edition.
Speaker 3: Oh inside sorry, inside edition, and so we were we
Speaker 3: were talking about Britney's fear.
Speaker 2: It was legit.
Speaker 3: Dude is sweet.
Speaker 2: But Marshawn Lynch, this was a year that he was saying,
Speaker 2: I'm only here so I don't get fine, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And so, and I was instructed to throw skittles at
Speaker 1: him to try a reaction out of it. And I
Speaker 1: was like, there's no way you're gonna get me to
Speaker 1: throw a bag of skittles at this guy.
Speaker 2: You'd old probably that would probably have been a great video.
Speaker 3: It's it's up, dude. So the whole time in the interview,
Speaker 3: he's saying, I'm only here so I don't get fine.
Speaker 3: I'm only here so I don't get fine. And then
Speaker 3: you see he like gets distracted off stage to the
Speaker 3: left and he like interrupts whatever he was saying. He's like,
Speaker 3: he's like, oh you kind of cute though he's talking
Speaker 3: about Sean.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 3: It's the only thing, the only thing he said other
Speaker 3: than I'm only here zona good fine.
Speaker 1: I got fired be it from my correspondent John because
Speaker 1: they really wanted me to get him to answer questions.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm a former athlete myself. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna like throw candy at an athlete. Just try to
Speaker 1: get a response out of them. So I got his attention.
Speaker 1: I was like, just want to wish you good luck
Speaker 1: and like kind of like tossed a bag of skittles.
Speaker 3: Is it was it skittles? That's his thing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like toss his way and then yeah.
Speaker 2: She's like was it was it this? And You're like,
Speaker 2: you know what it was? You know what he said
Speaker 2: to you. That's all. That's a good you got.
Speaker 1: You gotta finish the story.
Speaker 3: So then I'm on the raiders with him when he
Speaker 3: made his comeback, and I my first interaction, well, something
Speaker 3: you'll learn about me. Sometimes I say things and this
Speaker 3: goes for a dating process too, Like I mean, well,
Speaker 3: but it comes off way wrong. So my first interaction
Speaker 3: with Marshan, I thought it was gonna be a great
Speaker 3: idea to confront him about this situation. And I was
Speaker 3: like I went up to him, was like, Marsian, nice
Speaker 3: to meet you, Yo, I got a bone to pick.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: You called my wife sexy and I'm not good with that.
Speaker 3: He was like, he was like, but was I lying though?
Speaker 1: Yo?
Speaker 2: That is.
Speaker 3: Anyway we were.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, he's just he seems like a super cool
Speaker 2: cat like that. That response is like it just puts
Speaker 2: a small on my face, Like how do you just say? Hey?
Speaker 2: Was that right? Though? I just like squash anything that
Speaker 2: even if you were actually upset. But uh so take
Speaker 2: I don't even know which story to start with. Probably
Speaker 2: where you guys met at Vandy?
Speaker 3: We met because of Vandy.
Speaker 2: You tell the story, You tell your story, Tell a
Speaker 2: little bit of this.
Speaker 1: I met Andrew's oldest brother, his name is Guy East
Speaker 1: at the London Olympics. He was racing as a cyclist
Speaker 1: for the United States, and I had a friend who
Speaker 1: was his teammate. Found myself at the event, met him
Speaker 1: and he just wouldn't stop talking about his younger brother
Speaker 1: that I had to meet.
Speaker 2: So were you in the him? Were you in the Guy? No?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Andrew Like, if she hits
Speaker 2: me up, I'm questioning, like, Yo, were you into my
Speaker 2: bro first? And I was just next choice? What is?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yo? What is what's the village? Like in the Olympics,
Speaker 2: you hear the stories like just just fucking be real
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 2: I want honesty. This is you. You've seen some of
Speaker 2: the podcasts I.
Speaker 1: Was when I was at the Olympic village. Okay, so
Speaker 1: we literally had to.
Speaker 2: Talk about what you've seen then, now we don't.
Speaker 1: We had armed guards outside of our doors, so we
Speaker 1: nothing happened with the gymnasts, but yeah.
Speaker 2: What would you see with the older crowd. We don't
Speaker 2: need to name any names. I need to know some
Speaker 2: stories you're lying tell you. Okay, there we go, that's
Speaker 2: what I need.
Speaker 3: We're talking about my mom when we started dating.
Speaker 2: Sent me that ESPN article about the condoms.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they write one every Olympics. I feel like, but
Speaker 3: she's the only her.
Speaker 1: Quoted, the sixteen year old, which is so messed.
Speaker 3: Up making out on you were She's like the only
Speaker 3: athlete mentioned I think in this article. Looking up, I
Speaker 3: think it's like twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: So the one who got quoted in the article of
Speaker 2: there's all the condoms and they talk about the village,
Speaker 2: that's your quote they were quoting.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no. She was mentioned as like, just
Speaker 3: asked Sean Johnson and Taylor Finny who were making out on.
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 2: If I no, like, no, I just have your my
Speaker 2: husband and my husband sitting here.
Speaker 1: And then that's how I met Andrew. Was Taylor Finny
Speaker 1: was Guy East's teammate.
Speaker 2: Oh so.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was very.
Speaker 2: Hey yeah, no, no, we got to dive into that. So, guys,
Speaker 2: teammate that you were talking about is what's his name?
Speaker 1: Taylor Finny And that's the one you were.
Speaker 2: Making out with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Taylor puts you on Andrew Kid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's like the last No.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't want I don't want to butcher that.
Speaker 2: Hey did Taylor did Taylor? What's Taylor? What Taylor Finny? Did?
Speaker 2: He hook you guys up?
Speaker 1: He approved it. He was like, you're a good guy.
Speaker 3: This was one of those things that Sean said I
Speaker 3: never dated Taylor. I never dated Taylor.
Speaker 2: And then it was like it was like and you're
Speaker 2: just thinking, like I'm not stupid.
Speaker 1: It was literally an Olympic flank. And again I was
Speaker 1: a child, but everything that I heard as a child
Speaker 1: and everything that I saw as a child at the
Speaker 1: Olympics is yeah, it's very true.
Speaker 3: Wait is this it right here?
Speaker 2: What? What did you there? It is Taylor Finny was
Speaker 2: looking for.
Speaker 1: Guys. This is like, hi, drama, it.
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter, Like this is like, this is hilarious because
Speaker 2: I remember when this article came out, not that I
Speaker 2: knew all the names, but you're always like, oh, do
Speaker 2: you guys see like you know the Olympic Village and
Speaker 2: what goes on.
Speaker 1: So we had armed guards outside our doors at the
Speaker 1: Olympic Village because we were the only minors in the village.
Speaker 1: So I don't know why I'm telling you all this.
Speaker 1: Taylor Finny lived in the village, like in the apartment
Speaker 1: complex I think below us, and he would always he
Speaker 1: was always the guy that would like throw us snickers.
Speaker 3: At night, and I was like, can we clarify it?
Speaker 2: Says he would throw a kissing session. That sounds better
Speaker 2: than he would throw you as snickers because you.
Speaker 1: Guys were we would just sit on the patio and
Speaker 1: talk every night. Yes, and became an Olympic fling. This
Speaker 1: is really weird, guys.
Speaker 2: Now, would you witness stuff that? Like when what everybody
Speaker 2: thinks about the Olympic Village is that stuff? Yes, that's
Speaker 2: a real deal.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, you think about it. All these like elite
Speaker 1: minded athletes emotions. They've worked for so long and been
Speaker 1: so restricted with like everything, they finished this like Olympic movement.
Speaker 1: They've reached the epitome of their sport and now it's
Speaker 1: just a free for all in every sense.
Speaker 2: Really free in every Yeah. Wow, that's fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: Well, and it's the Olympic village. There's no media, there's
Speaker 1: no tourists, there's it's just athletes of Olympians, a lot
Speaker 1: of Olympians.
Speaker 2: And how many Olympic Games did you go to?
Speaker 1: Just one?
Speaker 2: Just one? You were going to do another one? Right
Speaker 2: to do, but that's when you tore your knee? Yes,
Speaker 2: what happened to your knee? And what what happened?
Speaker 1: I went skiing?
Speaker 2: Is that politically correct?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: That's real.
Speaker 1: I didn't even get hurt in gymnastics. I was trying
Speaker 1: to make it come back. I went skiing. I tore
Speaker 1: everything in my knee, a c l mc lemaniscus, a hamstring.
Speaker 1: Holy shit, try to do a reconstruction and still come
Speaker 1: back and it just wasn't working.
Speaker 2: And you retired the week before that next Olympics. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: Before Olympic trials, I could have competed, but I just
Speaker 1: knew if I competed, and if I made the team,
Speaker 1: which there was a good chance I was, my body
Speaker 1: wouldn't have lasted through the Olympics. So I bowed out.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yeah, how how what was that like
Speaker 2: when you the moment you tore your knee skiing? I
Speaker 2: assume it's just you were just out having fun with
Speaker 2: new family friends yep, family, and you knew was it
Speaker 2: a an was it an accident or something that kind
Speaker 2: of just loosely slipped a freak accident.
Speaker 1: My safety release on my ski was broke and I
Speaker 1: didn't know it. I took a really small fall, but
Speaker 1: my ski got caught in the snow and my boot
Speaker 1: didn't come out, so I like rolled over my leg.
Speaker 2: Did you know right away?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Were you just tears right away?
Speaker 1: No tears because you shock.
Speaker 2: You didn't know at first how bad it was. You
Speaker 2: probably thought I might have tore something.
Speaker 1: You could I feel like as athletes, you're very aware
Speaker 1: of your body.
Speaker 2: And you knew something was wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I heard a huge pop and you
Speaker 1: don't hear that with like a sprain or a strain.
Speaker 2: What was going through your mind?
Speaker 1: What if I could never do gymnastics again?
Speaker 2: And then like how.
Speaker 1: You're really scared to tell my coach because that's the
Speaker 1: one rule he had training was you could do anything
Speaker 1: you wanted. You just couldn't ski, and yeah, were.
Speaker 2: You guys together at this point? No, No, God, Andrew
Speaker 2: wouldn't allowed that. Man. Yeah, that's that's brutal. But then
Speaker 2: you're gonna make a comeback.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: It was that process pretty rigorous.
Speaker 1: It was. It was the first time I had really
Speaker 1: had a bad injury in my career. So it was
Speaker 1: the first time I ever doubted my body, which is
Speaker 1: really hard. Like having any fear or doubt in your body,
Speaker 1: I think is a huge weakness as an athlete, and
Speaker 1: for me, I would picture things going wrong instead of
Speaker 1: like having confidence in my ability of my sport. I
Speaker 1: made it all the way back to World Championships, made
Speaker 1: it to Olympic trials, and just I was living off
Speaker 1: of courtizone injections, and it just yeah, I wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: make it.
Speaker 2: So I don't know about you, But you take toward
Speaker 2: all or anything like that before games, No, yeah, like
Speaker 2: not not quarter zone, but you're taking all these anti
Speaker 2: in phlegmatories that are trying to mask whatever pain you
Speaker 2: have so you can go out there for the purge.
Speaker 1: Which makes it so much worse afterwards, what's up which
Speaker 1: makes it so much worse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're so sore, Oh, because.
Speaker 1: Your body way past what it should like be doing.
Speaker 2: So what what made you think this is the time
Speaker 2: I should retire? Or did you did you it was
Speaker 2: a week before Olympic trials, did you know before that
Speaker 2: week that you were going to ultimately retire or did
Speaker 2: it kind of hit you like it was coming up
Speaker 2: and you're like, I can't do this or I should.
Speaker 1: Have Or I was kind of on the fence for
Speaker 1: for quite a while, probably at least six months leading
Speaker 1: up to the trials. My body was just falling apart.
Speaker 1: And then I feel like my mind wasn't as strong,
Speaker 1: just because I was kind of losing the passion and
Speaker 1: I had frustration with my body and the sport. So
Speaker 1: it was just it was a mix of things. But
Speaker 1: a week before Olympic Trials, I remember watching so we
Speaker 1: have two different trials. We have the United States Championships
Speaker 1: and then a week later as the trials. So I
Speaker 1: competed at Championships and I saw all the other girls
Speaker 1: coming up who had never competed at the Olympics before,
Speaker 1: and they had so much passion and energy and just
Speaker 1: like everything that I had in two thousand and eight
Speaker 1: and I remember thinking to myself, like, I'm dreading making
Speaker 1: the team, which I don't think is a good sign
Speaker 1: that you should be representing your country and the biggest
Speaker 1: event in the world.
Speaker 2: So I just kind of you say dreading meaning doubting
Speaker 2: if you make the team, or you're dreading like you
Speaker 2: almost didn't want to make No.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to make the team really only because
Speaker 1: my body was falling apart, and because my body was
Speaker 1: falling apart, my mind was falling apart.
Speaker 2: I just want and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: In the sense of like with gymnastics, we flip on
Speaker 1: a four inch beam that's four foot off the ground, right,
Speaker 1: So if you get upon a beam and you're getting
Speaker 1: ready to do a standing you know, three sixty three sixty,
Speaker 1: and you start doubting your ability, you get hurt. That's
Speaker 1: like when huge injuries happen in our sport. And I
Speaker 1: started doubting myself and I started these like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I would picture everything that could go wrong instead of
Speaker 1: what could go right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that when that happened, and that's.
Speaker 1: Very, very scary for our sport, and I just knew
Speaker 1: that if I made the team, I was probably going
Speaker 1: to break at the Olympics and I just wasn't for
Speaker 1: me anymore.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy. I never doubt myself when I'm about
Speaker 2: to do three sixties on a game, I've never doubt.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I'm about to murder this shit. Dude,
Speaker 2: that's crazy. Yeah, did you did you ever doubt your
Speaker 2: decision after it happened? Like regret thinking, Okay, you went
Speaker 2: through all when did you tear you knee? What year
Speaker 2: was it?
Speaker 1: The year after the Olympics and nine?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you're going because it's only every four years,
Speaker 2: You're leading up to twenty twelve, and then you decide
Speaker 2: to retire, and then you retired the Olympics. Go on,
Speaker 2: did you ever watch the Olympics or after? Where You're
Speaker 2: ever getting that? I should have just done it because
Speaker 2: who knows, like you never get those opportunities.
Speaker 1: I actually went to twenty twelve and I had to commentate,
Speaker 1: So that's where I met guy East.
Speaker 3: That's right. She wouldn't have met me if she was competing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if she was, she wouldn't have met you, right.
Speaker 1: Because I couldn't have gone to the scling whatever. I'm
Speaker 1: glad I met you. I knew it was the right
Speaker 1: decision for me. I never doubted that, Like I never
Speaker 1: regret the decision I made. I'm very clear in my
Speaker 1: heart that it was the right decision for me. But
Speaker 1: I had so many people around me, sponsors, agents, parents,
Speaker 1: even where their regret of it was almost it put
Speaker 1: pressure on me, and it kind of made me doubt
Speaker 1: my decision.
Speaker 2: And theirs support for life. Yeah, I mean, everybody loved you,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And I'm not saying that,
Speaker 2: but you're like, yeah, everybody loved me, but you feel
Speaker 2: like everybody's so supportive of you, and you don't want
Speaker 2: to let people around you down.
Speaker 1: Well, and inter and I have talked about this. Had
Speaker 1: I competed and made it the two does twelve games,
Speaker 1: I mean financially, I would have been set up for
Speaker 1: a long long time.
Speaker 2: By competing in twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very I was very well set up.
Speaker 2: What's a number seven?
Speaker 3: Don't do it?
Speaker 2: Don't do it? Does that? Does that? Does Does something
Speaker 2: go wrong if you bring that number up? No? Like us,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you're You're used to people knowing
Speaker 2: what you can make by googling you all the time.
Speaker 2: So I'm never I never feel bad about asking people
Speaker 2: how much how much could give? That's interesting because people
Speaker 2: can come at you and just know, like everyone just
Speaker 2: knows either even if they bring it up or not.
Speaker 1: That is interesting.
Speaker 2: They're just like if they think anything, like you know,
Speaker 2: they it's not that everybody and whoever listens. That's with
Speaker 2: me all the time. It's not like I sit there
Speaker 2: and think like, oh, they expect me to pay for stuff,
Speaker 2: But there's you know, if something comes if something comes down,
Speaker 2: people know how much you make and think this doesn't
Speaker 2: this doesn't this wouldn't bother. Well even if we made
Speaker 2: him do this, it's like it's not going to affect them,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? So me asking that, I
Speaker 2: just I literally have to know. I have zero shame.
Speaker 2: I have zero shame. What's the number?
Speaker 1: It's such a like it's such a hypothetical question. Just
Speaker 1: because you have X amount of sponsors that are going
Speaker 1: to pay, you know, what's a minimum number at least
Speaker 1: in the millions?
Speaker 2: Seven?
Speaker 1: Oh, I have no idea for I really don't know
Speaker 1: what she's saying.
Speaker 3: Is this. Imagine she goes to the second Olympics and
Speaker 3: wins all the gold medals. So it's like commoentation jobs,
Speaker 3: you get like set up. It's not only what you
Speaker 3: make from the sponsors that year, it's everything that comes after.
Speaker 2: Too, and the gym this team at that time, if
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, but it's like it that was the team
Speaker 2: that everybody wanted to follow, was the gymnast team, right,
Speaker 2: because you guys came after the track and steel and stuff, right,
Speaker 2: and then it was like, hey, you know, you guys
Speaker 2: are on serial Bond, you guys are everything. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: guys were like untouchable.
Speaker 1: So it would have been it would have been financially amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1: But a week before those contracts took place, like I had,
Speaker 1: I had signed them, but they go into effect during
Speaker 1: Olympic trials, so all your prize money starts coming in
Speaker 1: with your medals, and if you make the team, I
Speaker 1: had to call every single one of those sponsors and
Speaker 1: say I'm not going anymore.
Speaker 2: And you had to, or you would have had.
Speaker 1: To I had to, oh man. And so that's when
Speaker 1: like the your agents come into play and your parents
Speaker 1: come into play and they're like, are you out of
Speaker 1: your mind?
Speaker 2: So you knew what you could be, what you.
Speaker 1: Were walking away from, absolutely.
Speaker 2: And it still didn't. It still didn't even affect you, didn't.
Speaker 1: I was. I was so ready to be done that
Speaker 1: it was the greatest decision I've ever made. But it
Speaker 1: was the hardest decision for everyone around me.
Speaker 2: It's interesting too, because people are so driven, like by money,
Speaker 2: and I was. I was talking to my girlfriend Charro
Speaker 2: whenever we got our first Regal Realty Regal Realty Group sponsor,
Speaker 2: whenever we got our first sponsor, my excitement for our
Speaker 2: first sponsor on a little check was trumped any excitement
Speaker 2: I was having by texting about going and trying out
Speaker 2: for teams, because I've been telling teams no things, Like
Speaker 2: We've had probably six opportunities to go and try out
Speaker 2: for teams and we've just kind of said no thanks,
Speaker 2: save my body a little bit, like I don't need
Speaker 2: to go through another training camp like six years in,
Speaker 2: Like I have a resume. You guys, you know the NFL,
Speaker 2: they know if you're they can call around and get references,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So we're just kind of
Speaker 2: saying no thanks. And I'm telling charl I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: hoping this gets prolonged so I can sit down and
Speaker 2: have conversations and build the podcast compared to going and
Speaker 2: making you know, a minimum for me, I think it's
Speaker 2: like eight or nine hundred or something like that, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And it's like that little check
Speaker 2: I got from Regal Realty hyped me up so much.
Speaker 2: I remember texting to Taylor and we were just we
Speaker 2: were on FaceTime, just on Cloud nine, like, yo, we're
Speaker 2: doing it, We're doing it. Just something small, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. So that's interesting to hear your perspective
Speaker 2: on knowing you're walking away from millions of dollars and
Speaker 2: arguably one of the better Olympic teams in the history,
Speaker 2: but it might not.
Speaker 1: Have been had I been on that team.
Speaker 2: You never know, that's true. I mean, I take a
Speaker 2: gold medal over Andrew. I'm just kidding, bro, I'm just
Speaker 2: kidd been.
Speaker 3: This is this is what's amazing.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 3: We walk into a mall or definitely a gymnastics gym
Speaker 3: and little girls, I kid you, not just tears when
Speaker 3: they see.
Speaker 1: Her, they with you.
Speaker 3: Well no, no, but it's because like.
Speaker 2: I mean, you've built a brand. Let's not let's not bullshit.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking like, okay, uh, well have andreel On, Like
Speaker 2: I knew who you were you text me and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: did you get my number from trust or somebody from
Speaker 2: Hop Pop. Yeah. I'm like, oh, I'm sure one of
Speaker 2: the boys get my numbers. So they felt good about
Speaker 2: giving them the number, Like, yeah, of course I want
Speaker 2: to sit down with you.
Speaker 3: But you know what I've known my brand is Sean
Speaker 3: Johnson's husband. That is what it is.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm first thinking I didn't know Charlo had told me, Uh, Charo.
Speaker 2: I was sitting with Charo and she was like, Andrew
Speaker 2: East that's Sean Johnson, eese husband and good and I'm
Speaker 2: like who. I'm like, Who's I'm like, I said, who
Speaker 2: Shawn Johnson. So we'll humble her a little bit. And
Speaker 2: she's like, remember it said Olympia we were I was
Speaker 2: telling you about when they when you know, when he
Speaker 2: got it on the Redskins. I was like, oh for
Speaker 2: real and then you kind of searched it up. I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh damn, like she was legit, legit, and uh, I'm
Speaker 2: like you know now we're here, But that's crazy then,
Speaker 2: how how how do you how do you go from
Speaker 2: so what happened after after the Olympics, after all that stuff,
Speaker 2: how do you guys begin to kind of meet or
Speaker 2: what happens in between you and you meeting him? Or
Speaker 2: did that happen? Kind of quick? What yeard you guys meet?
Speaker 2: So what year? Okay? So shortly after I went.
Speaker 1: Straight from the London Olympics where I was commentating for
Speaker 1: the Today Show, I went straight to Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2: I know it's nice, flex solid.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean it.
Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars. Okay, I heard of.
Speaker 1: It, and it was during that well, when I was
Speaker 1: on the show that him and his brother Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: Yo, there's there's grinning going on right now.
Speaker 3: She booty called me pretty much? Is what happened?
Speaker 2: Okay, there we go. I want to hear the story
Speaker 2: from answer now because she's great, like she's holding something back.
Speaker 3: So I slid in her DMS like I formed the boy,
Speaker 3: formed the Twitter just so I could get tweeter right
Speaker 3: and then.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait wait, I don't formed the Twitter just to tweeter.
Speaker 3: I was not Yes, I was not a social media guy.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I got a number via d MS.
Speaker 1: So we started talking calling, which I'm trying to gave
Speaker 1: you my number.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but it makes I'm pretty who who'd
Speaker 2: you d M her account, you gave him your number.
Speaker 2: It was somebody running I.
Speaker 1: Was running my own account. I gave my number.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
Speaker 3: So then she like ghosts me for like a month,
Speaker 3: and on my birthday, she.
Speaker 2: Says on Dancing with the Stars, bro, what you just
Speaker 2: You probably got that, you probably got a little you
Speaker 2: probably got a little egg profile. Pick Like, who in
Speaker 2: the fuck me for my number? Anyway?
Speaker 3: She said. She sends me a text on my birthday
Speaker 3: like a midnight says, I want to fly out to
Speaker 3: l A.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was at.
Speaker 2: Midnight, at midnight, I want to fly out to l A.
Speaker 2: I'll cop it off for you. I'll handle your expenses,
Speaker 2: so kid you not.
Speaker 3: Next day, I jump on a plane class and I'm
Speaker 3: out there.
Speaker 1: Your mom cannot listen to this.
Speaker 2: Oh she's a listener.
Speaker 1: So I was. I was coming out of a very
Speaker 1: very bad relationship and is very bad. Sure, and I
Speaker 1: was very drunk, and I don't mean it like a
Speaker 1: bad way, but I was like I should text this guy.
Speaker 1: And I was like, you want to fly to l A.
Speaker 1: I fall asleep, wake up sober, and I get a
Speaker 1: text saying I'm on my way.
Speaker 2: Only wait, wait, stops up. Were you guys texting in
Speaker 2: between the d M number and the fly la? She
Speaker 2: just texted you on a whomen That's what I'm saying, man,
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. You dropped your lugging running of course,
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, what kind of guy would do this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, psyclepath in l A and she she's not responding.
Speaker 2: Duh, got this whole thing? Do you think you're just hey,
Speaker 2: I'm here.
Speaker 3: So it worked out. My brother had a bike race
Speaker 3: out there that same weekend, so that was like that
Speaker 3: was gonna be planned A or B.
Speaker 1: And then so I finally like he texted me enough
Speaker 1: to day. I got out of Dancing with the Starry
Speaker 1: rehearsal on TV show and I met Andrew and his
Speaker 1: brother along with one of my friends that I was
Speaker 1: looking with my girlfriend at the time. We met for dinner.
Speaker 1: We had dinner. I was not very impressed. I was
Speaker 1: just like, this.
Speaker 2: Guy's with Andrew, you were impressed? Oh my god. And
Speaker 2: somebody helped my guy right now so that he was
Speaker 2: not impressed. Andrew, why went you impressed? Was he nervous?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I was slightly just freaked
Speaker 1: out because he gets a random text message from a
Speaker 1: random chick two am flying here, and he does it.
Speaker 2: And you were saying that since you were drunk, now
Speaker 2: that you've came to your senses, now that's why you're
Speaker 2: like freaked out because.
Speaker 1: You're all in it. Yeah, so it gets better. So
Speaker 1: after dinner and this is.
Speaker 2: All circling around dancing with the stars.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, So after dinner, me and my girlfriend were
Speaker 1: trying to be like nice. We're like, oh, can we
Speaker 1: like drop you guys off at your hotel?
Speaker 3: She's about to blast me.
Speaker 2: I feel like she already has been. But it gets better.
Speaker 1: And his brother go, oh, we don't have a place
Speaker 1: to stay. We're just gonna sleep in our car tonight.
Speaker 3: And I was like, what is that true?
Speaker 2: Or he's just that's part of your game. I am
Speaker 2: homeless tonight.
Speaker 1: I took I took it as part of his game.
Speaker 1: I was like, what is this guy doing? So then
Speaker 1: I'm the really big idiot and I'm trying to be
Speaker 1: nice and I was like, well, you can stay in
Speaker 1: like our guest bedroom if you want, and he isn't
Speaker 1: like an idiot, is like yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3: This is going.
Speaker 2: Man, this is bad dude, put the camera on him.
Speaker 2: Put the camera on him.
Speaker 3: Dude, I was gonna get murdered. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, continue, We'll let her finish and then we'll
Speaker 2: go back and we'll let we'll let you, we'll let
Speaker 2: you talk a little bit.
Speaker 1: And then he comes back to our apartment with his
Speaker 1: brother and me and Mike.
Speaker 2: But you knew his brother.
Speaker 1: Barely, but yes, we had had like an hour. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so we get back to my apartment. My girlfriend,
Speaker 1: I go straight upstairs to my room and we locked
Speaker 1: ourselves in and we like pushed the doors and are
Speaker 1: like the chairs in front of the doors because I
Speaker 1: literally thought we're gonna get murdered or something. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: that was it. He did not I would have taken at
Speaker 1: a different level.
Speaker 2: No, okay, so then she didn't hanger. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't want to go farther now. I want to hear
Speaker 2: any of your parts of some of the games she
Speaker 2: might some of the holes she might be missing. Is
Speaker 2: that all accurate? So here's the thing, and reflecting on
Speaker 2: your game, like what would you have done differently, what
Speaker 2: would you have done differently, or what did you feel
Speaker 2: like you were doing wrong to make her so creeped out.
Speaker 3: So when I when there's an opportunity in front of me,
Speaker 3: I'm going to take.
Speaker 2: It without even knowing what your game plan is.
Speaker 3: So that goes for the flight, that goes for I
Speaker 3: would rather have a bed to sleep in than the car.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Did she pay for your plight? No?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, okay, no my dad did.
Speaker 2: But shut out dad. So is there anything she missed?
Speaker 2: Anything you want to add?
Speaker 3: We had a good time that night. I was not
Speaker 3: getting off I'm going to murder you tonight vibes.
Speaker 2: No, but so you didn't just immediately run in your
Speaker 2: room like you guys. Probably hung out and it got
Speaker 2: better or did you become.
Speaker 3: An I fell in love? That was the night I
Speaker 3: fell in love.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you need to be saying I
Speaker 2: don't know if you need to be saying that this
Speaker 2: is amazing.
Speaker 1: They were all like this other random stuff. It was
Speaker 1: your twenty first birthday and you're like, I've never had
Speaker 1: a drink before in my life, and I want to
Speaker 1: get drunk.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I never said I never said
Speaker 3: I want to get drunk. And I said when she
Speaker 3: started dripping off me.
Speaker 2: Know, she's a little savage over there.
Speaker 3: So she didn't talk to me for nine months after that.
Speaker 2: No, so you guys part of ways. And then there
Speaker 2: was ghost It was nothing for nine.
Speaker 1: Months, not from me but from him.
Speaker 3: I was texting, damn, and she was leaving you on read.
Speaker 3: So I would be like, what is it like if
Speaker 3: you text somebody? How many texts are you going without them?
Speaker 1: Going to dig yourself up before you just fold.
Speaker 3: Up in close shot.
Speaker 2: So when I was texting with charro Chari would kind
Speaker 2: of try and big timmy a little bit, and if
Speaker 2: she wouldn't respond to me, I wouldn't text her back
Speaker 2: or send any repeat text or nothing repeat no, repeat text.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. And then when she would, uh,
Speaker 2: if she would text me eventually responding to the same
Speaker 2: the ship I was talking about two days ago, I
Speaker 2: would just not respond to her for like two days
Speaker 2: and then try and you know, big time it up.
Speaker 3: And you know I would text her like six times
Speaker 3: repeat text six.
Speaker 2: Times in those nine months. No, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: six times a day.
Speaker 3: No, everybody calmed down, everybody just chill out. It would
Speaker 3: be like.
Speaker 1: Six times of the course of probably like a month.
Speaker 3: I'm sweating my heart, I know.
Speaker 2: He's like, and then, yeah, you got the ring. I
Speaker 2: mean your game works somehow, and we're gonna get so
Speaker 2: we're gonna get into that. So everybody sitting here like, damn,
Speaker 2: did he like corner her in the marriage or what? Like,
Speaker 2: it's I'm sure it's gonna get better.
Speaker 3: I am rethinking everything right now.
Speaker 1: Text me six times a month.
Speaker 2: But theyn i'd be like, like, what we're the text though,
Speaker 2: any repeat texts.
Speaker 3: Like Hey, what's your favorite candy?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Holy ship, dude, real, I believe it.
Speaker 3: That's why he said.
Speaker 2: It's all like innocently and like you're like, hey, what's
Speaker 2: your favorite candy?
Speaker 3: Loves this right now? He don't love this right now.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, JOK, saw you though, Holy shit. I'm saying, hey,
Speaker 2: what's up, what's going on? What have you been up to?
Speaker 2: And then like he might text again and like, yeah,
Speaker 2: great chat, I can't wait to hear about it. But
Speaker 2: it's like, hey, what's going on, hopeball's well? And then
Speaker 2: the next chat, what's your favorite candy? Oh my gosh, anyways,
Speaker 2: how did this get better? For the love of.
Speaker 1: God, he would like just continue texting, and I would
Speaker 1: finally send something back, probably like once a month. I
Speaker 1: would send something back. And then nine months later you
Speaker 1: called me, which was the first time.
Speaker 2: He'd like, so you weren't responding, and then he's like,
Speaker 2: no again, I'm calling.
Speaker 3: I composed the most elegant you did.
Speaker 1: It was this. It was the now. It was the cheesiest,
Speaker 1: most like, hey, what is.
Speaker 2: It called something vers reality that you thinkality?
Speaker 1: He said something. After nine months He's like, if football
Speaker 1: has taught me anything, it's how to persevere.
Speaker 2: Yes, and then like I respect that a little bit.
Speaker 1: It was like a book and he's like, I remember.
Speaker 1: It ended with would you accompany me to the CMA Fest?
Speaker 2: Well, now you're trying to throw You're trying to throw
Speaker 2: your way around a little bit.
Speaker 1: You didn't even have tickets? Well he didn't have tickets,
Speaker 1: and I said yes.
Speaker 3: I said, I got VIP tickets to CI Fest. You
Speaker 3: want to come? She said yes, And I was like,
Speaker 3: I gotta give tickets.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. And were you responding to them at
Speaker 2: all of until this point?
Speaker 3: No, no, oh my god.
Speaker 1: So I booked a fight to Nashville.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to.
Speaker 2: Write a book. You need to write a book. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of hope strategy. He just text until hey,
Speaker 2: you want to go to this VIP I got I
Speaker 2: got box seats, and then they say yeah, and then
Speaker 2: he's got to find away.
Speaker 1: Well, the moustas impressed thing is you found a way
Speaker 1: and we sat in a box at the CMA Fest.
Speaker 3: It's right, Brad Paisley.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who hooked you up?
Speaker 3: Dude? It was a friend of a friend of a teammate.
Speaker 3: He was like, I'll give you these tickets, but I
Speaker 3: have to meet Sean. So like I was texting this
Speaker 3: dude like trying to run the logistics, like where we're
Speaker 3: going to meet up? I've never met this guy. And
Speaker 3: then I'm trying not to be weird. I was like, hey, Sean,
Speaker 3: we're going to meet my friend. I never met this guy.
Speaker 3: To exploit me because he's got my tickets. Anyway, so
Speaker 3: we sat down and we watched a Diamond Rio concert
Speaker 3: right there on the river, got the tickets and pieced out.
Speaker 2: And this is in twenty thirteen though thirteen and June.
Speaker 2: So you went not okay, okay, okay, okay. So you
Speaker 2: went the awkward, little weird flout to La drawing texts
Speaker 2: and it was awkward, and you say you weren't impressed
Speaker 2: to nine months of ghosting, not responding to your texts
Speaker 2: for nine fucking months, to making up a story saying
Speaker 2: you want to go to vip c m A Fest
Speaker 2: and that's what you responded to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love country music and I was like sure,
Speaker 1: and then we had a blast. And then actual story
Speaker 1: was my girlfriends had set me up on three dates.
Speaker 1: This was one of them. The day were they were
Speaker 1: counting this as one. I was supposed to stay in
Speaker 1: Nashville for like a day, fly to Chicago for another date,
Speaker 1: but to La for the thing. I know, but no,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a good it's a good story because
Speaker 1: I stayed for one night and I cancel everything else
Speaker 1: and I stayed here for a week, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is the guy I'm going to marry.
Speaker 2: Oh really boom, just so CMA Fest did it? That's right,
Speaker 2: the CMA Fest date did yes? Yes, And you thought
Speaker 2: in your head, this is the guy I'm going to marry.
Speaker 2: So that that was the night you fell in love. Yes,
Speaker 2: you fell in love way soon. You're like, you're like
Speaker 2: what they write about in stories like don't fucking I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know, you're like trying to mentor your little high
Speaker 2: school is like, listen, my man, don't fall in love
Speaker 2: with her. It's shit doesn't matter right now. That was you.
Speaker 3: I just saw the twinkle in her eye. You know,
Speaker 3: You're like, okay, I.
Speaker 2: Could I could be interested in that saw the twinkle.
Speaker 2: That was when I saw the twinkle. And that was
Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen, that's right. And then what comes after that?
Speaker 1: I moved to Nashville for him, for him.
Speaker 3: Now she's the psycho one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, holy shit, how quickly?
Speaker 3: Three months later?
Speaker 2: Three months later? Oh my god. Yeah, vip he voice
Speaker 2: for everybody out there listening, VIP CMA tickets. CMA Fest
Speaker 2: will be next year. Get the VIP tickets. Figure out
Speaker 2: who you want to love and marry and fucking bribe
Speaker 2: them with tickets. Then they'll be forever.
Speaker 1: Im. The vest is in June. I'm mage in October.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was soon.
Speaker 2: And then we're now to kind of pivot and go
Speaker 2: a different direction. Were you already branding yourself and your
Speaker 2: YouTube channel kind of lifestyle personality? No, what got you
Speaker 2: started in that?
Speaker 1: He started it?
Speaker 2: You were were now? Were you already doing this shit.
Speaker 3: No, I had no idea. So I got picked up
Speaker 3: by the Chiefs in twenty fifteen, so we got engaged
Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen. I was like, Flex the number one
Speaker 3: long snapper coming out of college, Okay, which means.
Speaker 2: Nothing, though, absolutely, that's Flex number fucking one in the world,
Speaker 2: number one in the world.
Speaker 3: Say that because it's a joke, because you can't rank
Speaker 3: long snappers.
Speaker 2: Well you can, you're number one anyway.
Speaker 3: But I thought. I was like, I was like, man,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have this ten year NFL career, We're gonna
Speaker 3: be living a good life. Get cut in camp, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, shoot, sign up to be an Uber driver.
Speaker 3: Didn't have anything.
Speaker 1: I came home today and he literally said he had
Speaker 1: signed up to be an Uber driver. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: we need to work on our identity a little bit.
Speaker 2: And you guys weregether and living together and then you
Speaker 2: signed with the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: So no, I was just graduating college and we didn't
Speaker 3: live together when when I was in.
Speaker 2: College and you just lived here lived okay.
Speaker 3: So then then I get cut and one of her
Speaker 3: friends was like, I just started a YouTube channel. You
Speaker 3: guy should look into it. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: I could start that. Sean has like a lot of
Speaker 3: fans that would love to see you.
Speaker 2: What were you doing at this time?
Speaker 1: Sorry, work, motivational speaking kind of going.
Speaker 2: Around and speaking, because you can fucking do that, No,
Speaker 2: no doubt. I respect that for sure. I would too.
Speaker 2: I'm speaking to Vanding. I speak to vanderbuilding fucking teams
Speaker 2: like that guy. Okay, so she's doing that. And then
Speaker 2: You're like I had nothing to do. So I was like,
Speaker 2: I gotta.
Speaker 3: I'm like sad depressed little because you.
Speaker 2: Realize the NFL is now what the thought it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, oh my god.
Speaker 2: That's a hard truth to kind of go through a
Speaker 2: little bit too.
Speaker 3: And so this is I'm pumped for you because you
Speaker 3: just getting that check from your first sponsor. You realize like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm in control of this and I have I have
Speaker 3: another skill outside of football that I can do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty It fires me up, Like you know,
Speaker 2: you want to like I want to coach, like I
Speaker 2: have interests in other areas. So I'm kind of just
Speaker 2: trying to find trying to find it. And I realized
Speaker 2: I have fun with like, you know, all the relationships
Speaker 2: I have the personality like stuff on social media, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, I should try and figure something out. So
Speaker 2: that's why I finally just pulled the trigger and I did. Like,
Speaker 2: Taylor helped a lot, uh Charro, my friends back home,
Speaker 2: my parents like, and Taylor Like, they were all.
Speaker 3: Like, we're rolling through credits right now.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got I say Taylor. If I say
Speaker 2: Taylor and not other people, it's gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 2: Taylor is the one who helped you. But there's a
Speaker 2: lot of people telling me to do it, and you
Speaker 2: finally just take that leap of faith in doing it.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is that how? So you're bummed driving fucking uber? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Bro, So we put out our first YouTube video December
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen. You go back to look at it. It's trash.
Speaker 3: We had no idea what we're do.
Speaker 1: Don't go back and look at it.
Speaker 2: I'm going to because I think that's the best kind
Speaker 2: of shit. It's freaking full circle looking back where you
Speaker 2: came from.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had no idea.
Speaker 1: Where.
Speaker 2: Who was the YouTuber that got you to look into
Speaker 2: Mallory Irvin? She has stud She's great, dude, check her out.
Speaker 2: She is a Kentucky girl like Miss America. She's been
Speaker 2: an amazing race, has like this wild personality.
Speaker 3: She's great. Check her out all right, she has her
Speaker 3: own podcast too. Anyway, So we started making videos and
Speaker 3: then it took us about a year to really like
Speaker 3: start gaining momentum on that, and then it became like
Speaker 3: a legit thing. And now that's that is like our
Speaker 3: that's what we spend most of our time doing in football,
Speaker 3: and her speaking are like side gigs at this point.
Speaker 2: Love that isn't that awesome?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And so so with YouTube, was it mainly was it
Speaker 2: always both of you? Was there more of a focus
Speaker 2: on her at first because she was she's you know
Speaker 2: Sean Johnson.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Look I don't know a lot about marketing,
Speaker 3: but I do know that there was a lot more
Speaker 3: people searching for her than there was. No question, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it is mostly her.
Speaker 2: And then for you was it You always knew you
Speaker 2: were just going to kind of document your whole run
Speaker 2: on everything.
Speaker 3: So we started vlogging. We did like this collab with
Speaker 3: this family who like filmed twenty minutes other day every
Speaker 3: single day, and that was like two months into us
Speaker 3: doing YouTube, and so I saw, like I didn't know
Speaker 3: that daily vlogging was a thing. I didn't watch much
Speaker 3: of YouTube before then, and so I was like, I
Speaker 3: saw what they were doing. I was like, well, maybe
Speaker 3: it'd be cool if I documented behind the scenes of
Speaker 3: me trying to make an NFL team, and like, cause
Speaker 3: I'm doing workouts like every week, every other week.
Speaker 2: Fucking crazy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And I was and as a little kid
Speaker 3: coming out out of middle school, high school, like you
Speaker 3: just think of the NFL. You think Peyton Manning, these
Speaker 3: guys that are locked into one team for for ten years,
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, you don't see you don't see guys
Speaker 3: like me. So I was like, this would be interesting
Speaker 3: to document. Plus I want to show it to my
Speaker 3: kids to show them that I'm a boss. And I
Speaker 3: was like, trying out for NFL tas you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I feel even if I never actually like
Speaker 3: played in the game. So I started doing that and
Speaker 3: then it's like, now turned into this whole thing.
Speaker 2: So is there more in between that's turned into this
Speaker 2: whole thing? So what was your guys' process about kind
Speaker 2: of growing the YouTube because we're new to it too,
Speaker 2: so fucking any tips.
Speaker 1: Collapse?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was very anti social media when he started YouTube.
Speaker 2: Right when you guys started, were you very nervous about
Speaker 2: people being in your lives like that? And then also
Speaker 2: commenting all the time?
Speaker 1: She already had it, so I had it, But I
Speaker 1: had come from the sports entertainment world where like you
Speaker 1: signed with Coca Cola, and Coca Cola says, you can't
Speaker 1: say this, you can't wear this. You can't. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's very strict, and with YouTube, it's not strict
Speaker 1: at all. You just show your actual life. And I
Speaker 1: had never done that before, and I felt like I
Speaker 1: was like moving into a world that was my own
Speaker 1: that the world had never seen before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I hated that, right and and yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean you say like used to it because we're in
Speaker 2: a spotlight, but it's in a spotlight of our comfort
Speaker 2: zone playing a sport for like when we were dropping
Speaker 2: our first ones. I'm sure you guys probably have the
Speaker 2: same feeling, like when it's your own thing and you're
Speaker 2: you drop it and then you're just kind of refreshing,
Speaker 2: like seeing like you're seeing people comment on things that
Speaker 2: you're not a pure professional in, which I think is
Speaker 2: also at the same time, what makes it what it
Speaker 2: is because it's like raw, it's you're getting, it's shit's organic,
Speaker 2: like people are kind of along the journey with you.
Speaker 2: But no, it's crazy sport.
Speaker 1: If someone critiques you, you like you know in your heart,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh you're wrong, Like I know my ability,
Speaker 1: my talent, right, But if someone like critiques your real life,
Speaker 1: you're kind of like, oh am I doing this?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So it's just it's more vulnerable and weird. But
Speaker 1: we've kind of figured it out a little bit.
Speaker 2: And how long has the YouTube channel been going on
Speaker 2: since twenty fifteen?
Speaker 3: About three years? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, was the YouTube channel called the East Fam
Speaker 2: The East Fam and you have your own as well.
Speaker 3: Too, right, yeah, that's where I put my podcasts.
Speaker 2: So East Fam, And then what's your podcast?
Speaker 3: My podcast is called Redirected, but my YouTube channel is
Speaker 3: just Andrew East.
Speaker 2: Talk a little bit about your podcast before you ask
Speaker 2: me a question.
Speaker 3: So, like I mentioned, I thought I was going to
Speaker 3: come out of college, come out of Indy and play
Speaker 3: ten years in the NFL, signed with the Chiefs, get cut,
Speaker 3: and now I have to find something completely different to do.
Speaker 3: And I had no idea what that was going to be.
Speaker 3: And I realized, like when I was coming up with
Speaker 3: the concept for my show, that everybody kind of has
Speaker 3: these interesting pivots in life where they're forced with the
Speaker 3: decision to like do what they want to do and
Speaker 3: pursue like like you with this podcast, or like kind
Speaker 3: of just go with the flow of how life's taking them.
Speaker 3: And so I sit down with people and talk to
Speaker 3: them about the interesting piviot pivots or I call them
Speaker 3: redirections that they've had. So we talked with like, you know,
Speaker 3: Sean Booth, who like was on the reality show and
Speaker 3: changed his life. Talk with Luke Sanders, who was an
Speaker 3: HVAC installer then was like I'm gonna fight in the UFC.
Speaker 3: So he trains for two years and actually ultimately made it.
Speaker 3: And it's like these kind of it's not like an
Speaker 3: inspirational podcast, but it's just hearing people's stories of like
Speaker 3: how did you get to where you are right now?
Speaker 3: Or digital influencers, like there's YouTubers now that like we're
Speaker 3: working hotel front desks and now they have ten million
Speaker 3: subscribers on YouTube. It's like, what a different life this
Speaker 3: was then five years ago?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying by you taking that leap exactly,
Speaker 2: finding that redirection of like going after it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but here's here's a YouTube. So I actually put
Speaker 3: together a little we do like consulting now for Google,
Speaker 3: and I put together a little course because.
Speaker 2: I go ahead.
Speaker 3: They did this survey for like younger millennials and there's
Speaker 3: thirty four percent of them want to be YouTubers when
Speaker 3: they grow up, and then like the second most was
Speaker 3: like thirty percent want to be blogged, so like all
Speaker 3: of them want to be online doing these online careers
Speaker 3: kind of terrifying.
Speaker 2: So I was like, it is weird wondering. It makes
Speaker 2: you think, like where is it going to be in
Speaker 2: twenty thirty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nuts, who knows. Yeah, But I'll put together's course
Speaker 3: because everybody's trying to get into it. And I feel
Speaker 3: like there's two misconceptions that people think wrongly about. One
Speaker 3: is like people don't make sharable content. So like just
Speaker 3: like you guys did with that Jalen Ramsey clip, like
Speaker 3: you got a really solid SoundBite that ultimately barstool Sports
Speaker 3: is able to pick up right right, A lot of
Speaker 3: people just like snap a picture of their food. It's
Speaker 3: like nobody's going to share that to their oh, like,
Speaker 3: look what sean eight for one? Nobody wants to share that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but if we share a picture of her doing a
Speaker 3: handstand pregnant, people are like, it's gonna stir up check
Speaker 3: out this pregnant. Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna like create
Speaker 3: a conversation. And people are like, oh, I can't believe
Speaker 3: she can still do it, or like oh is that
Speaker 3: good for the You know what I'm saying, Like it
Speaker 3: just starts a conversation and makes it sharable. Second thing
Speaker 3: is you got to do collapse. So, like me reaching
Speaker 3: out to you, it's like a bridge between my audience
Speaker 3: and yours. So, like, my audience is not going to
Speaker 3: be interested in your in your podcast and your show
Speaker 3: and content because they know a little bit about my
Speaker 3: football career. And by you being an NFL player, it
Speaker 3: gives him a broader perspective because you have six years.
Speaker 3: I only have three games, right, So like, but also
Speaker 3: by me going on your show, I'm getting your audience.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, right right, right? So strategic
Speaker 3: my part, Oh Yeah, how can you how can you
Speaker 3: share value in that way?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're preaching, I'm preaching. He's spend too much.
Speaker 2: He's spent some wisdom. He is now, no, you're completely right.
Speaker 2: Like we had Brendan shaub On and he was kind
Speaker 2: of he was kind of telling me that whole gig.
Speaker 2: He's like, once it gets you know, once it climbs here,
Speaker 2: like we'll get you out on the West coast. And
Speaker 2: you know, because we have we have all these fucking
Speaker 2: people we would love to talk to. It kind of
Speaker 2: helped inspire us or me and myself one anything wanting
Speaker 2: to do a podcast. It's like the ultimate goal is
Speaker 2: to have those monkers on the bus and you know,
Speaker 2: go full circle with it.
Speaker 1: Does this bus move?
Speaker 2: No, bus doesn't move yet? A bus doesn't move yet.
Speaker 2: We're going to because initially we're thinking, we were thinking
Speaker 2: about getting a studio. We were thinking about like what
Speaker 2: studio could we get in? You know. One of our
Speaker 2: guys was like, hey, there's this bus out back and
Speaker 2: I was like me, I started I started no with
Speaker 2: most things until I find the yes. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: Taylor's gonna love this. Taylor's very like impulsive and immediately
Speaker 2: fell in love with it. And I knew he was
Speaker 2: gonna want it. And this thing it had all the rows,
Speaker 2: all the seats going on and everything. We had to
Speaker 2: gut it. We basically put money in the rent of
Speaker 2: it and put all the sounding stuff you see in
Speaker 2: it and all the gear and uh yeah, and now
Speaker 2: it's like yeah, and now it's like it's taken off
Speaker 2: to where people are like, hey, when when you're gonna
Speaker 2: get that thing running, like you should take it out
Speaker 2: here or there? And so now we want to get
Speaker 2: around yeah potentially. Yeah. It's it's interesting because because Taylor
Speaker 2: is who he is. He signed a five year deal
Speaker 2: with the Titans, like he's a Pro Bowl caliber player.
Speaker 2: He's a stud, right, He's gonna be somebody that's playing
Speaker 2: football for years to come, and uh so his number
Speaker 2: one priority will all will be ball until those until
Speaker 2: his wheels fall off. Right Me, it's a little different me.
Speaker 2: I enjoy this kind of stuff, and I I just
Speaker 2: make sure I'm not trying to jump at too much
Speaker 2: with him in mind, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 2: I know I want to protect him and I want
Speaker 2: to protect kind of the stuff we've made and not
Speaker 2: make it seem like he's not focused on one or
Speaker 2: the other and make him to where it's like to hey,
Speaker 2: I don't want to this isn't fun for him anymore
Speaker 2: because an it's not fun for him, you know, or
Speaker 2: I mean me too, but I'm like super into this stuff.
Speaker 2: But the minute it's not fun for us is when
Speaker 2: it kind of it can kind of fall apart. So
Speaker 2: it's like thinking, Okay, the bus rolling will be an
Speaker 2: awesome idea, but it's unrealistic to think we're literally gonna
Speaker 2: drive it around every week and try to go somewhere.
Speaker 2: It takes up a lot of time, you know, how
Speaker 2: much training goes into being a football player. So we're
Speaker 2: trying to vision board strategies in the offseason where maybe
Speaker 2: it's like ten to twelve guests we want to go after,
Speaker 2: and we take the bus to these few different locations,
Speaker 2: whether it's on the West Coast, whether it's in New York,
Speaker 2: whether it's in you know, North Carolina at Dale Junior
Speaker 2: at Dale Ear and Hart's freaking ranch, and you go
Speaker 2: and basically, you know, you try and set it up,
Speaker 2: but wait outside their freaking facility until they come on
Speaker 2: the damn bus and kind of document that, kind of
Speaker 2: document the travel that goes into it, document the like,
Speaker 2: have a little doc like a mini docuseries or some shit.
Speaker 2: But I just think that would be super cool. And
Speaker 2: then you're kind of you're videoing and producing some of
Speaker 2: the stuff that goes into us chasing our vision of
Speaker 2: getting in front of these people and kind of doing
Speaker 2: something cool with each other.
Speaker 3: So see, so what I did with Sean, you have
Speaker 3: that in YouTube, sitting on some side somebody's ranch until
Speaker 3: they until they get on your bus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true perseverance, man, we have that perseverance. Right,
Speaker 2: What else am I missing boys, Matt, Because I mean,
Speaker 2: at the end, at the end of the day, we
Speaker 2: can do it. We can do a part two. We
Speaker 2: come back and circle around like I'm bummed that It's like,
Speaker 2: I'm not bummed, but I'm bummed that I can't go
Speaker 2: to your studio tomorrow. Two years Like, I looked at
Speaker 2: yours and I was listening to I was listen to
Speaker 2: the Decker stuff and I was like, Yo, this is
Speaker 2: freaking this is this is an awesome podcast. And that's
Speaker 2: called redirection, redirected, redirected, and that's on every platform, Spotify
Speaker 2: with Apple Podcasts.
Speaker 3: That's right. Himalaya, I like him. Malaya is where I
Speaker 3: listen to podcasts. Okay, looking at me like you never
Speaker 3: heard of it?
Speaker 2: I never heard of it. I've heard of Himalayan Sea salt. Good,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. They made a podcast platform,
Speaker 2: but yeah, find it all there. Do you have a
Speaker 2: pot or anything or you just you just do you
Speaker 2: huh and you just make sure he videos it.
Speaker 1: She's not.
Speaker 3: She's still not even like really bought in with the
Speaker 3: video stuff. But we're getting there.
Speaker 2: What who does your guys editing?
Speaker 1: It was until like six months ago we hired a
Speaker 1: full time editor.
Speaker 3: Why are you looking for a job over there?
Speaker 2: I mean my man is always looking. Don't never say no,
Speaker 2: ball you never say no. We will take all conversations.
Speaker 2: I'll be your agent. I'll take a five I'll take
Speaker 2: a five percent.
Speaker 1: I don't think people want to be our editor. Though.
Speaker 1: We push out at least two videos every week.
Speaker 3: It's a lot to on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Usually send in the footage like the night before.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean ship. We we have some close
Speaker 2: calls too. We're just we're just some boys of the busy.
Speaker 2: We're just some boys of the bus trying to make
Speaker 2: some magic. Dude. Yeah, Matt, anything is there anything I'm missing? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Social media is where can we find you guys?
Speaker 1: Sean Johnson on everything that's right?
Speaker 3: And then Andrew D. East. You gotta drop the D,
Speaker 3: Andrew D. East, I can't drop the D.
Speaker 2: Does somebody have I can't drop the D? I got
Speaker 2: the yeah? And what so what happened with the whole
Speaker 2: Sean Johnson? Why isn't it Shawn East? It's because you're
Speaker 2: you're just so iconic.
Speaker 1: This is Oh my gosh, it's gonna sound bad coming
Speaker 1: for myself. It had just kind of become a brand
Speaker 1: when we got married. So like I'm actually Shawn East,
Speaker 1: but the like my brand is pretty much Sean Johnson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like little kids don't come out to me saying like,
Speaker 1: oh hey, Sean East. They East Johnson.
Speaker 2: Well, by the by your guys a story you guys
Speaker 2: told I think it should be. Andrew Johnson got my
Speaker 2: man picking these flights, these last second flights, Like I
Speaker 2: appreciate you guys coming on. We're gonna have to do
Speaker 2: this again because an hour is not enough for an
Speaker 2: hour is not enough for this, your guys a story.
Speaker 2: But you guys also have individual stories, so we might
Speaker 2: need you to probably sit out in the car one
Speaker 2: day while she does one and then we rotate. Hell, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is awesome, and then I'll do yours. Do you
Speaker 2: do uh? Do you do skype stuff? Are you always
Speaker 2: one guy? I would like to mostly we'll figure it out.
Speaker 2: We'll figure it out because it'll be it'll be form.
Speaker 1: But he usually de skiped because all of your interviews
Speaker 1: are from all over.
Speaker 3: Good luck tomorrow, though, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm hype. Dude, who that nation. We'll see if
Speaker 2: it works out. You never you never know, I mean
Speaker 2: you freaking though, dude, you know this business. You never know,
Speaker 2: but uh now this will be cool once it once
Speaker 2: it does.
Speaker 1: Drop more stories for your podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, and we'll do We're gonna I'm telling
Speaker 2: you we're gonna do this again. This was a great time.
Speaker 2: I'm glad freaking Hob gave you the number. Shout out
Speaker 2: Dustin Hopkins and Gabby. I hope you guys are taking
Speaker 2: very nice care of my house, not doing anything wrong too.
Speaker 1: They are. It's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Okay, good, good, good, good good well Thanks again for
Speaker 2: coming on. Yes, go ahead, drop the hook