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Speaker 1: This is Mick Shot, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones,
Speaker 1: Savannah Humoller, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 2: On a windswept Thursday here in Frisco, Texas, it's time
Speaker 2: for another edition of mix Shots inside the SNC podcast studio.
Speaker 2: And thank goodness we're indoors because you can hear that
Speaker 2: Win whistling down the plane outside.
Speaker 3: Windy in here too. Always what's going on this cold.
Speaker 2: Let's fight through it.
Speaker 4: You hit the view, but fight through it. Here we go.
Speaker 2: We got football players on a football field, and from
Speaker 2: the sound of it, it's gonna be a real live
Speaker 2: football practice out there where they got pads on. There's
Speaker 2: gonna be some hitting going on.
Speaker 3: Ever, sing Bill, I think they're gonna take it inside, buddy, exactly.
Speaker 3: They got they got dummy flowing across the field there
Speaker 3: out there. They got practiced dummies rolling around out there.
Speaker 5: So Brian Schotteimer, he just did the press conference. He said,
Speaker 5: today's practice. Since they're in pats, he said it will
Speaker 5: be up tempo, juicy, energetic, there will be running and
Speaker 5: there will be hitting.
Speaker 6: You go, he said, juicy. Yeah, that sounds really.
Speaker 5: Really even there. The wind, I expect nothing less.
Speaker 7: That's exactly added that if we're going to start outside
Speaker 7: and see where it goes, I got a feeling it's
Speaker 7: going right inside once they get the team.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 4: So they're saying that wind goes up to forty miles an.
Speaker 6: Hour, Well, I believe we won't have that on Sunday night.
Speaker 7: That's what he also wau. Then we have a nice
Speaker 7: dome to play, Yes, so there's no sense going out
Speaker 7: there and rooting an offensive practice.
Speaker 4: So this is the first.
Speaker 2: Practice since probably since the.
Speaker 4: Last time they played Philadelphia.
Speaker 7: Now, who was before Carolina?
Speaker 4: Was before Thanksgiving and then the week before that.
Speaker 7: I can't get rid of Giants, Giants. They might have
Speaker 7: got one in on the Giants, maybe because he.
Speaker 2: Knew they didn't need one for Carolina.
Speaker 7: Had to let up for Carolina. No, because it then
Speaker 7: I had a short week, right, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, been a while, virtually a month, yeah.
Speaker 7: Probably, And he's only got two more left after today.
Speaker 4: They only get a certain number each year.
Speaker 7: And you can't save them all to the end either
Speaker 7: or at least that's the way it used to be,
Speaker 7: Like you couldn't save four for the last four weeks
Speaker 7: there was a cutoff date where he had to use
Speaker 7: up all due to the collective.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I've never watched US. I'm watching US right now.
Speaker 4: What are you watching?
Speaker 6: I'm watching us?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Did you realize we were streamed?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 3: I was trying to find some stats and this keeps
Speaker 3: popping up. I can't get rid of it, so.
Speaker 6: I'm like looking at it.
Speaker 2: You just realized that they actually have video of us.
Speaker 7: He can't see we can see you.
Speaker 6: Gone.
Speaker 3: She sits there and I gotta be over your shoulders
Speaker 3: looking at I have to edge up in the back
Speaker 3: all the time now because people are looking in the
Speaker 3: back of my head.
Speaker 2: But we did have a Brian Schottenheimer press conference today.
Speaker 2: We had a Dan Quinn one yesterday, and of course
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy had the emergency app in deck to me
Speaker 2: that was successful yesterday afternoon. And understand, he returned home
Speaker 2: this morning and it's working from the house to day.
Speaker 2: Expected to return to the Star tomorrow.
Speaker 7: I expected him to be here today me too. I
Speaker 7: think I thought he'd be up in a window somewhere
Speaker 7: sitting watch.
Speaker 2: YEA from Afar. I wouldn't be surprised if they said, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was mid to late afternoon. I guess before he
Speaker 2: had the surgery yesterday, and I think they probably said,
Speaker 2: you know, what's he going to do if you're release
Speaker 2: him from the hospital tonight, what.
Speaker 4: Do you think?
Speaker 7: Probably right, he was going to head to the Star.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so if he's going to get he's going to
Speaker 6: get a good business.
Speaker 3: You know, I come to work and the next thing
Speaker 3: you know, I'm in the hospital. That's not That's not
Speaker 3: the way he wants.
Speaker 7: To So everybody checked their appendix today. We all don't
Speaker 7: have one. So you have something in common with Schottenneimer and.
Speaker 2: Shot Nimer told the story in this press conference which
Speaker 2: he also we take the Mike McCarthy show. It features
Speaker 2: Brian Schottenneimer this week. Now we didn't get into we
Speaker 2: didn't talk about his appendix on the show, but prior
Speaker 2: to the show, he told the story that he did
Speaker 2: with at the press conference, which was at age fourteen,
Speaker 2: he was doubled over in pain after a Cleveland Brown's
Speaker 2: playoff loss. So maybe the Ernest Byner I don't know
Speaker 2: if that was.
Speaker 6: It was he was the fumble.
Speaker 7: It was the fumble game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was it?
Speaker 3: And uh, why do you always make name name games
Speaker 3: after people's mistakes?
Speaker 7: Game we got the Everson Walls was a game.
Speaker 6: Everybody knows what you're talking about. Damn at Smith Games Smith.
Speaker 2: Okay, right, but he was doubled over in pain, and
Speaker 2: his parents thought when they came home, they thought he
Speaker 2: was just you know, reacting to the loss.
Speaker 6: Go on, tell me that's fourteen years old.
Speaker 7: Yeah, wow, that doesn't usually happen.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so that's crazy.
Speaker 7: So he said his dad has to come home from
Speaker 7: a loss like that and then head right to the
Speaker 7: hospital to deal with doctors and nurses.
Speaker 6: Come on, man, the Browns lost. Do I have to
Speaker 6: be here?
Speaker 4: Well, he had time on his hand. The season was over.
Speaker 4: Yeah you all right?
Speaker 2: So what else did you get out of the Brian
Speaker 2: Schottenheimer press conference today.
Speaker 7: Well, it sounded like that he is one hundred percent
Speaker 7: optimistic or sure that MacArthur will be ready for the
Speaker 7: game on Sunday. He said everything that they've done so
Speaker 7: far is full steam ahead. They haven't been missing anything.
Speaker 7: He said, Mike's been involved still with everything from afire,
Speaker 7: they'll zoom probably today and yeah, he said that. You
Speaker 7: know the interesting thing though, is is he okay to
Speaker 7: stand on the sideline for three hours? I mean, you
Speaker 7: can call plays from the coaches box, by the way,
Speaker 7: and you're not close to the action either in case
Speaker 7: somebody runs into you and they don't have big doms
Speaker 7: standing there to protect him.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: So, but other than yeah, that's right, because he's still
Speaker 3: is susceptible to injure.
Speaker 6: I mean on the sidelines, they do. I forgot about that.
Speaker 7: I mean, even though it's a scope, they do go
Speaker 7: into your right and so.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he did turn sixty earlier this month, right
Speaker 2: last month, and uh, you know at the age of sixty,
Speaker 2: it's harder to stand for three.
Speaker 6: Hours anytime, surgery or not, even if you.
Speaker 2: Haven't had surgery.
Speaker 5: Right, he'll probably be there, but it's you never know
Speaker 5: how people's recoveries are going to go. So, I mean
Speaker 5: he could be zooming in and he might be still
Speaker 5: in a little bit of pain or you know, hunched
Speaker 5: over on the sideline on Sunday.
Speaker 7: So, and it takes a little while to recover from
Speaker 7: the anesthesia too. It doesn't just you wake up and
Speaker 7: it's like, okay, but it's still kind of a little cloudy.
Speaker 7: And I thought the funny thing was and they asked
Speaker 7: him what kind of spirits he had. Did you talk
Speaker 7: to him and he goes, oh yeah, he goes, and
Speaker 7: you can't have a conversation with Mike two things will
Speaker 7: come up. Football in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6: That's where it's from, right, Yeah.
Speaker 7: So uh so, yeah, it's saying it seems like, okay,
Speaker 7: go you know, gotta as uh as Savannah pointed out,
Speaker 7: padded practice, Let's go, uh get going. The tempo should
Speaker 7: be good, spirit should be good.
Speaker 3: Last question just on that, is it considered major surgery.
Speaker 6: To Arthur?
Speaker 2: I assume and we haven't heard any details. I assume
Speaker 2: it was Arthur's copic surgery.
Speaker 7: Okay, but it's still it's not major to you, right,
Speaker 7: But the person that's getting the scope, it's major. Right.
Speaker 7: Anytime they put you out.
Speaker 3: That, they talked about guys that you know, like with
Speaker 3: the kidney donation stuff, they said, some guys went to
Speaker 3: work the next day after donating, and that's that's crazy.
Speaker 7: Not the person that got it. No, do you guys?
Speaker 6: You have the person that that gave it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they said. I was like, it's no way
Speaker 3: I could have done that. But guys have gone and
Speaker 3: now they only sat down to the desk.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: Still, you know, that's tough man, some people. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: wasn't a football player either. He was just a guy
Speaker 3: that went right back to what and that's crazy. So
Speaker 3: that's why. And I saw what happened plus sales. You know,
Speaker 3: I don't know how he felt. I don't recall, you know,
Speaker 3: how he talked on the sidelines or anything. But he
Speaker 3: seemed to be fine, said you that morning.
Speaker 7: Game that night Percell.
Speaker 6: Yes, his happen his appendecty. Yeah, back in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 7: You know, on the in the hard part is and
Speaker 7: I don't know if Mike's had surgeries before. You know,
Speaker 7: the first time they start explaining to you the anesthesia,
Speaker 7: it's like, ooh, this is serious.
Speaker 6: You're going under this, like, hey, you may not come
Speaker 6: back and you.
Speaker 7: Got no do sit that up to you right, It's
Speaker 7: like flying an airplayer, you know somebody.
Speaker 6: Like count down from ten okay ten nine?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just hoping your way up countdown for no
Speaker 3: reason at all.
Speaker 7: And I you know you probably went through and it's
Speaker 7: very sobering to me to think, you know, these guys
Speaker 7: go have surgeries all the time to six and we
Speaker 7: act like no big deal, right, but when it's to you, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was looking at Burrows on the sidelines and I
Speaker 3: was just thinking, like, you know, just another surgery the
Speaker 3: person has to go through, you know, because he had
Speaker 3: his arm and the slingk when when I was watching
Speaker 3: the game, and that's exactly what came my mind.
Speaker 6: Say you know this guy had to have surgery.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you said, I think about the surgery that
Speaker 3: you had, Like hmm, yeah, it's it's it's the old
Speaker 3: that's sobering, very sobering.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 5: So while we're on surgeries, can we move to injuries? Yes?
Speaker 7: Okay, great informosts.
Speaker 5: Do we want to do Philly's injury report from.
Speaker 7: Yesterday because the Cowboys wasn't much great?
Speaker 5: So some notable ones for Philly's practice yesterday. Fletcher Cox,
Speaker 5: he was limited in practice age, Dallas Goddart with a
Speaker 5: forearm and injury had.
Speaker 7: Full so he had been reserved and so they're somewhat
Speaker 7: surprised how quickly he's coming.
Speaker 2: They Yes, we talked about it yesterday and it was
Speaker 2: Marquise Bell tackling and the stiff arm.
Speaker 5: Zach Cunningham the linebacker hamstring injury. He was limited in
Speaker 5: their practice yesterday and it was reported it was just
Speaker 5: a walk through. But still I think the notable one
Speaker 5: is Dallas.
Speaker 2: Cunning last week's game and they released the last Christian
Speaker 2: Ellis and uh and so Shack Leonard get an opportunity
Speaker 2: right off the bat.
Speaker 7: They didn't mess around.
Speaker 6: And see if he's ready, might as well.
Speaker 7: See that's why in hockey they never revealed the injury
Speaker 7: right upper and lower body.
Speaker 6: That's all they say.
Speaker 7: That's all they say. That's it. But in football it's like, okay,
Speaker 7: he's got a hand, Well we'll find out about that
Speaker 7: hand in the pile.
Speaker 6: So that's it.
Speaker 3: On in I love it how Savannah saved us from
Speaker 3: going down rabbit holes.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're welcome back to football.
Speaker 6: That was pretty good.
Speaker 5: There's a few other guys. Jack Stole tight end, he
Speaker 5: was limited, Grant Calter he was full in practice. And
Speaker 5: then we had Julio Jones wide receiver, did not participate in.
Speaker 2: Played yes, and he played ten snaps last week and
Speaker 2: then he did because yeah he's had a few catches.
Speaker 5: Darius Lay he was on an IR rest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a veteran rest.
Speaker 2: And the Cowboys and IR is not injury related rest.
Speaker 7: And the Cowboys basically were good except for having put
Speaker 7: McEwan on IR to make room for Peyton Hendershot, who
Speaker 7: I think they listed full, didn't they They.
Speaker 5: Did list is full for Peyton Hunter shot yesterday. Now,
Speaker 5: the one that I was surprised by yesterday was Rico
Speaker 5: Doubtele He was limited. So I chatted with him in
Speaker 5: the locker room yesterday a little bit and he told
Speaker 5: me he was limited and well, he said he was
Speaker 5: dealing with a little bit of the ankle injury still,
Speaker 5: so he just said that he didn't do too much yesterday.
Speaker 5: I don't know what their expectations are for today for
Speaker 5: him though.
Speaker 7: So he's been limited. I think for the this is
Speaker 7: like three games in a row and he's played. So Everson,
Speaker 7: they're just trying to get him to the game.
Speaker 2: What, Everson, what percentage of the roster do you think
Speaker 2: is limited in some way at this point this season?
Speaker 6: It's just a question.
Speaker 4: It's just a question.
Speaker 2: You make that injury reported if you miss some time
Speaker 2: in practice.
Speaker 6: Basically, that's when the coach asked you all. You hurt
Speaker 6: or you injured. That's when you got to make a decision.
Speaker 2: There's so many injuries quote unquote injuries that that players
Speaker 2: are dealing with that never make an injury report.
Speaker 7: Fracture ankle, just go ass hockey players. I would think
Speaker 7: after the first week of the season. There's always something
Speaker 7: that hurts. You just got to play through it.
Speaker 3: It's like playing basket. It's like playing football on the
Speaker 3: basketball court. Nice, yeah, because they don't there's nothing soft
Speaker 3: to land on. Everything is hard.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 7: When we were playing adult hockey, whatever equipment they gave me,
Speaker 7: I put it on.
Speaker 2: So they get ready to save us.
Speaker 4: So I'll save I'll save us from the.
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Speaker 2: All right, we continue on mixed shots, and I wish
Speaker 2: we would have gone down that hockey rabbit. We got
Speaker 2: a great story from Mickey there about his charity challenge
Speaker 2: on ice days with the ticket hockey against a women's
Speaker 2: hockey team that he doesn't.
Speaker 3: You're not They hit him in his char charity.
Speaker 7: I was I was actually thinking that was pretty good
Speaker 7: idea on their part. They knew where the soft part was.
Speaker 5: She didn't get a penalty.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what happened to hooking?
Speaker 2: You know? Okay, Mickey, you've got a full legal pad.
Speaker 7: And I thought, uh. I enjoyed Schottenheimer's answer on when
Speaker 7: he was asked about c d uh and he and
Speaker 7: Dak hooking up on the deep ball, and I thought,
Speaker 7: Everson can jump on and jump in on this because
Speaker 7: I've heard him say this before. He said, Number one,
Speaker 7: it starts with the release. We talk about jumping out
Speaker 7: of your shoes, meaning you got to get off the
Speaker 7: lighter comage, right, And that's what you don't want as
Speaker 7: a cornerback, right.
Speaker 3: Well, most cornerbacks, depending on the defense, they'll give you
Speaker 3: a particular side, but then they'll just make it rough
Speaker 3: on you to get off.
Speaker 7: You see what I'm saying, Like, direct you the way they.
Speaker 3: The way they want you to go, chased on what
Speaker 3: the defense is. And I would less of the evils
Speaker 3: with the flex was always give up the outside short route,
Speaker 3: nothing inside. So most of the time we were shaving
Speaker 3: the inside shoulder and making sure that whatever they did,
Speaker 3: you do not get inside.
Speaker 6: That was our number one thing.
Speaker 3: The first drill that Gene Stalins put us through was
Speaker 3: backpedaling on the wide receiver inside shoulder that first drill,
Speaker 3: and he cursed me out on that first drill.
Speaker 7: You didn't get it done.
Speaker 6: I did it right, ran another out.
Speaker 3: We're not facting on that coach with facts on out roundes,
Speaker 3: not out and up. This guy was on his own.
Speaker 3: But I think I think Gene did that to me
Speaker 3: just to write. You know, somebody's got to make an example.
Speaker 7: So what he was pointing, and then what he was
Speaker 7: pointing out is that the CD does a good job
Speaker 7: of holding the red line. So they've got that red
Speaker 7: line out there, and they don't want you guessing the
Speaker 7: receiver inside the red line because then you don't give
Speaker 7: quarterback anywhere to throw them all.
Speaker 3: The shelder exactly over the outside shoulder, that's exactly right
Speaker 3: and away from the safety.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 3: You want to make sure and keep it away from
Speaker 3: the safety if you can. Even if you have it
Speaker 3: too deep, if he gets off, well, you can still
Speaker 3: hit it in the hole.
Speaker 7: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: You can still hit it in the little hole right there,
Speaker 3: So you can still do it even if there is
Speaker 3: a cover too, and he can still make it.
Speaker 6: In that little slot.
Speaker 7: Well, that leads me into little research I did last
Speaker 7: night on ce d Lamb ninety catches for eleven and
Speaker 7: eighty two yards so far, and I'm going he's still
Speaker 7: got five games to play crazy a lot, So I
Speaker 7: factored it out over seventeen games. Now he's on pace
Speaker 7: for one hundred and twenty seven catches. Now, I don't
Speaker 7: know that he'll continue on that pace, but Michael Irvin's
Speaker 7: single season franchise record is one hundred and eleven that
Speaker 7: he's set in nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 6: That's going down.
Speaker 7: Witton had one hundred and ten in twenty twelve and
Speaker 7: then CD last year. I don't even know if we
Speaker 7: realized this. He's third now with one oh seven. But
Speaker 7: he's on pace for one hundred and twenty seven.
Speaker 2: And we did it last month, a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2: We did the math from that point last year to
Speaker 2: that point this year, and he was right around on
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five, hundred and thirty catches over that
Speaker 2: his last seventeen games basically, yeah, and so now we're
Speaker 2: looking at it in a real season.
Speaker 4: Seventeen games, he's on that pace.
Speaker 2: One hundred and twenty seven recepts.
Speaker 7: And then the pace for single season yards receiving. So
Speaker 7: he's got eleven eighty two. Right now he's on pace
Speaker 7: for one thousand, six hundred and seventy four. Michael Irvin's
Speaker 7: record single season nineteen ninety five was both written receptions
Speaker 7: and yards. Michael had one thousand, six hundred and three yards.
Speaker 7: And the funny thing, well not funny, sixteen games, sixteen games,
Speaker 7: and the amazing thing is the top three receiving yards
Speaker 7: in Cowboy history. It's all Michael Irvin. He had nineteen
Speaker 7: ninety one fifteen twenty three, and that would have been
Speaker 7: his first full season after tearing his ACL. He came
Speaker 7: back in ninety but he missed the first half of
Speaker 7: the season before he got back. And then in nineteen
Speaker 7: ninety two he had one thousand, three hundred and ninety
Speaker 7: six yards. So no other receivers, including the two that
Speaker 7: are in the Hall.
Speaker 3: Of Fame and come close to what Michael Hey, let's
Speaker 3: know you balk loud enough.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, somebody's going to throw you the ball.
Speaker 2: Fit well, And it's also different. It was it was
Speaker 2: a game compared to the seventies and early.
Speaker 7: Actually even the eighties too, right with Drew and Tony Hill.
Speaker 5: He'll break it. There's I mean, it's definitely going down.
Speaker 5: It's CD. He he knows what he's doing out there.
Speaker 7: So and I thought it was interesting. Somebody finally asked
Speaker 7: about Shottenheimer about the deep ball, But I like the
Speaker 7: jumping out of your shoes at the store.
Speaker 3: Well, if you see how he does it, there's that
Speaker 3: that hesitation. You know, he almost when he does a
Speaker 3: little hop right before he makes his move, he's trying
Speaker 3: to see exactly what that dB is gonna gonna fame.
Speaker 6: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: If he if he hops, then he makes the dB
Speaker 3: commit first. Yeah, And that the dB commits first, then
Speaker 3: he can pick.
Speaker 6: Away to go.
Speaker 3: Now he can know where to go the way I
Speaker 3: see him doing his release.
Speaker 6: Now go back to Hall Knox.
Speaker 3: And when Amari Cooper was showing him how to get
Speaker 3: off the line.
Speaker 7: Of scrimmage, did you you remember that, Yes.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what he's doing right now. Amari said, pick
Speaker 3: a shoulder. Because the CD's thing was he kept going
Speaker 3: straight after at.
Speaker 7: The dB and then making his life trying to him,
Speaker 7: well go or into him.
Speaker 6: He gave him.
Speaker 3: He gave too much of himself. Uh huh, you gave
Speaker 3: him your entire body, See, Omari told him. You pick
Speaker 3: a shoulder, and when you pick that shoulder, that's when
Speaker 3: you start working the working the defensive back. And that's
Speaker 3: exactly what he's doing. He was open last week, but
Speaker 3: Dak had already thrown the ball on the fade. He
Speaker 3: was wide open, and what he did was he attacked
Speaker 3: the DB's outside shoulder and the dB didn't react and
Speaker 3: he kept moving.
Speaker 6: So if the dB reacts, he might come back inside.
Speaker 6: You see.
Speaker 3: So it just depends on what the defensive back does
Speaker 3: and what the defense is. If he knows he's man
Speaker 3: the man with no help, then CD can at least
Speaker 3: any way he wants. No one's going to give the
Speaker 3: dB help, right. He has to do is get on
Speaker 3: top of him and get the leverage.
Speaker 2: And think about CD. He's done this ever since he
Speaker 2: was in well, yeah, probably.
Speaker 4: In youth football pop in Houston, that's right. I mean,
Speaker 4: I was just.
Speaker 2: Looking back when he was in high school. He had
Speaker 2: his senior year in high school, he had ninety eight
Speaker 2: catches for two thousand and thirty two yards and thirty
Speaker 2: three touchdown. Ninety eight catches, so it would have been
Speaker 2: if they lost in the state semi finals, so they
Speaker 2: were probably a fourteen or fifteen game series Houston. Now
Speaker 2: he's originally from New Orleans, but they moved to Houston,
Speaker 2: and it's Foster High School, Richmond, Texas in the Houston
Speaker 2: area moved.
Speaker 7: When Attrina, Yeah, it was him, the linebacker from Oklahoma Murray, Yes,
Speaker 7: and I think it was Delpit.
Speaker 4: Okay, Grant Delpit safety at LSU.
Speaker 7: All those grounds moved together and they were all I've
Speaker 7: read this because I was looking at Murray. They were
Speaker 7: all on the same like Pop Warner team in Houston. Wow, undefeated,
Speaker 7: no one could beat him.
Speaker 2: So then carry it forward into college for CD Okay,
Speaker 2: he had Baker Mayfield throwing to him his first year,
Speaker 2: forty six catches at only eight hundred and seven yards.
Speaker 2: It was only a school freshman record seven touchdowns. Then
Speaker 2: he had Kyler Murray throwing to him his second year
Speaker 2: and he had sixty five catches eleven and fifty eight
Speaker 2: yards and eleven touchdowns. And then he had Jalen Hurts
Speaker 2: throwing to him his third year and it was sixty
Speaker 2: two catches, thirteen and twenty seven yards, fourteen touchdown. He'd
Speaker 2: been doing this forever, so none of this should come
Speaker 2: as a surprise.
Speaker 7: Right, and I'm sure for him he was always thinking, well,
Speaker 7: everybody's like, can you do more? And he goes, oh, yeah,
Speaker 7: I can do.
Speaker 2: More well, and hey, how about along those lines, I
Speaker 2: mentioned Schottenheimer filled in for McCarthy on the Coaches Show
Speaker 2: today and so we were talking about CD. I just
Speaker 2: asked him, how fun is it putting the game plan
Speaker 2: together each week for CD, LAMB and.
Speaker 6: Just for C. Well, that's what's basically.
Speaker 2: Right, and so shot Enneimer brought it up himself, said, Okay,
Speaker 2: everybody knows that he came to us earlier in the season,
Speaker 2: and you know he wanted the ball. And the beautiful
Speaker 2: thing about CD is that you go out on that
Speaker 2: practice field and yeah, he wants the ball and he
Speaker 2: does something about getting the ball in his The intention
Speaker 2: with which he goes about everything that he does is remarkable.
Speaker 3: And even with what he does, even with how he
Speaker 3: came out and what we expected from him, that just
Speaker 3: lets you know how tough this game is because he
Speaker 3: still had to make some serious adjustments. Was it last
Speaker 3: year you know he was you know, really wasn't as
Speaker 3: aggressive as he wanted them to be early in the season,
Speaker 3: and then the second half of the season he showed
Speaker 3: us the cen that we see now and even with
Speaker 3: that changing offensive coordinator, and he feels like he's getting
Speaker 3: shafted and he's like, nah, I want to continue what
Speaker 3: I was doing the second half of last year.
Speaker 6: I'm sure that's what was on his mind.
Speaker 7: And I thought Schottenheimer they was talking about the passing game,
Speaker 7: and they asked him something about the last Philadelphia game,
Speaker 7: the game that Dak had, and Schottenheuer basically said, well,
Speaker 7: first open receiver gets the ball, he goes. It's not
Speaker 7: planned out that that's going there. Right, first open receiver
Speaker 7: gets the ball, And that's when he talked about watch
Speaker 7: Dak's feet because ideally, he said, you want the quarterback
Speaker 7: to hit his back foot and he can see the
Speaker 7: first guy and he can see the second guy, and
Speaker 7: if it's not open, then he said, watch his feet
Speaker 7: because he's probably going to extend the play. And then
Speaker 7: it's who scrambled drill right who can get open? But
Speaker 7: you're not sitting there one, two, three, four right first
Speaker 7: two and then after that, let's go.
Speaker 3: Chris Collinsworth pointed that out in one of the early games,
Speaker 3: about his footwork and almost spoke of it the same
Speaker 3: way you did, and it was illustrated on one of
Speaker 3: the Monday night football games, Sunday Night Football games.
Speaker 7: Uh so we're becoming offensive experts here and we get that,
Speaker 7: we get we get Everson to qualify what we're thinking
Speaker 7: or correct us one of the two.
Speaker 3: I tell you what I'm qualifying right now. You were
Speaker 3: talking about these dbs. Al Harris needs to get some love.
Speaker 7: Did you hear Did you hear Quinn yesterday?
Speaker 6: No? I did not.
Speaker 7: Oh he went on and on about Al Harris.
Speaker 3: Excellent, excellent, because I did an interview this morning with
Speaker 3: Sir Roy with Mike and he brought up Al's name
Speaker 3: and I was I was remissing, like, man, I should
Speaker 3: have brought up his name, and I never have brought
Speaker 3: up his name even on this podcast, about what a
Speaker 3: great job he's doing our interception totals.
Speaker 6: I used to fuss all the time about us not
Speaker 6: getting picks. It just used to just get on my nerves.
Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden, here this guy comes and.
Speaker 2: We are especially when one guy's got eight, you got
Speaker 2: one with eleven, eight with five?
Speaker 6: Go now and then that's another thing.
Speaker 7: Can he get four?
Speaker 6: He should have had nine?
Speaker 7: I don't because.
Speaker 6: So that may have done it right there.
Speaker 3: That may doom him for you know, he might be
Speaker 3: stuck at the leven with me and Traypon.
Speaker 7: So I was just trying to get the stuff accurate.
Speaker 7: When he was talking about uh, yesterday.
Speaker 2: I'm so we're going to go for accuracy now, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 2: hold up the show.
Speaker 6: Sorry, we got a little parse here.
Speaker 2: We're going to try to for once be accurate.
Speaker 7: When I'm doing a quote. And he and he basically
Speaker 7: was he was asked. He brought up Al Harrison on
Speaker 7: his own and the work he's done with the young
Speaker 7: and think about it with Diggs. Okay, now you've got
Speaker 7: Droan Bland a fifth round. That's not Jordan Lewis making plays.
Speaker 7: And if you think about it, go back a couple
Speaker 7: of years ago, probably the best seasons Anthony Brown had
Speaker 7: two after Al Harris got here. He said, if I
Speaker 7: was playing that position, I'm calling Al Harris and say
Speaker 7: teach me. And he goes in, what better guy to
Speaker 7: teach you? That has been coaching now in the NFL.
Speaker 7: This is his tenth year and has two Pro Bowls
Speaker 7: to all Pro seasons, so he's been through it all.
Speaker 7: He has all you got to do is listen.
Speaker 6: On the championship teams.
Speaker 7: And he went on and on about how much he's
Speaker 7: meant to this defense.
Speaker 3: Well, my daughter thinks he's cute, so he's.
Speaker 7: Fun to talk to. I know that.
Speaker 2: Where do you go to college, Oh, Kingsville, the same
Speaker 2: as Darryl Green. Phil called Daryl Green.
Speaker 4: It was Texas A and I.
Speaker 7: Back then, and he played fifteen years in the league.
Speaker 2: Dang sick and he was a sixth round draft pick
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 7: So you can find cornerbacks on every any corner.
Speaker 6: That's what Gil Brand says.
Speaker 3: Yes, any gas station, Thank you racist, Gil, appreciate your love.
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Speaker 7: It's like it's like ourselves, ourselves would say in the
Speaker 7: middle of the season when somebody says, well it looks
Speaker 7: like you need another running back or whatever, he goes, yeah,
Speaker 7: And you don't just go down to the Texaco and
Speaker 7: get one.
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Speaker 2: shots just to morrow.
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Speaker 7: Apparently the Cowboy fan is out there voting. They've got
Speaker 7: like six guys leading.
Speaker 4: I didn't see the early voting.
Speaker 2: It just came out yesterday.
Speaker 5: So I have a couple of them.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 5: For wide receiver, Cede Lamb is second, right now, Tyreek
Speaker 5: Hill is number one.
Speaker 4: Okay, we'll give him that.
Speaker 7: We can live with that.
Speaker 5: For cornerback number one, Deron Blant, Yeah, you go, shout
Speaker 5: out Al Harris as we were just talking about that.
Speaker 5: Let's see for quarterback, Dak Prescott number three.
Speaker 4: Who's one and two.
Speaker 5: Tua is number one, se Stroud number two, and Brock
Speaker 5: outside linebacker is number one, t J. Watt and number
Speaker 5: two Michael Parsons. So that's that's the.
Speaker 6: Four I have.
Speaker 2: They have.
Speaker 3: They have Dak behind CJ.
Speaker 4: Yeah two, and CJ.
Speaker 5: Brock is number six on that list. So there's ten.
Speaker 5: There's ten players for each category.
Speaker 7: Also, I think I read where Zach Martin was leading
Speaker 7: at guard ah and there was there was six of
Speaker 7: them that were the head of their position, but Zach
Speaker 7: Martin was was listed. Oh An Aubrey, the kicker.
Speaker 4: Who's made how many in a row?
Speaker 6: Now, twenty six in a row, wasn't there.
Speaker 5: I don't have the rest of the.
Speaker 7: It was on what I read this morning.
Speaker 5: It was this is the voting leaders.
Speaker 2: By the way, there was much talk in the preseason
Speaker 2: and off season about the Cowboys kicking situation, and this
Speaker 2: name was brought up quite a bit that why don't
Speaker 2: they go sign this guy? Well he just this guy
Speaker 2: just retired Robbie Gold.
Speaker 7: Oh he did.
Speaker 2: He did retire this morning or yesterday.
Speaker 7: And no one really signed him, did they?
Speaker 4: No, No, he wouldn't picked up.
Speaker 7: But well, one of the reasons we got to be
Speaker 7: able to kick off. We got to kick off, which,
Speaker 7: by the way, I was just wondering about this and
Speaker 7: I finally found the stat. Aubrey has seventy nine kickoffs.
Speaker 7: Seventy six of them are touchbacks. There's so few. When
Speaker 7: I was talking to him, he knew the games that
Speaker 7: there was a return and it was only three of them.
Speaker 7: So think about this, he's got he had thirty nine
Speaker 7: extra points, thirty six for thirty nine, twenty six field goals,
Speaker 7: and seventy nine kickoffs, so he's kicked the ball one
Speaker 7: hundred and forty four times with five games to go.
Speaker 7: Which is a lot. And I was at I said,
Speaker 7: I did it very delicately. I just want to come out.
Speaker 7: You got a tired leg.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: I didn't say that. I said, but you have to
Speaker 7: be careful. You've kicked a lot. Not to mention however
Speaker 7: many games he played in the USFL. I think it
Speaker 7: was ten regular season and maybe two playoffs, and he says, well,
Speaker 7: I don't practice kickoffs anymore during the week, And it
Speaker 7: sounded like Fossil was suggesting they cut back on just
Speaker 7: how much he practices because they have to. They got
Speaker 7: to keep an eye on it. Right's going a lot
Speaker 7: of points, right, Well that's what happened. So you got
Speaker 7: to kick extra points and you got to kick off, right.
Speaker 7: So anyway, we brought him up.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I've got the complete list on the Pro Bow.
Speaker 2: Brandon Aubrey is number one amongst kickers in the.
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl voting.
Speaker 6: Tell the stuff.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 2: And by the way, Tyring is third amongst tackles, behind
Speaker 2: Trent Williams and Lane Johnson and guards. You mentioned Zach
Speaker 2: Martin and I just lost the list. Why would't they
Speaker 2: put the tackles next to the guards? I mean, what
Speaker 2: kind of list, is a guard is number one, Tyler
Speaker 2: Smith is number four. That's what I wanted to find out.
Speaker 2: Tyler is number four.
Speaker 7: And this is just fan voting at this fan voting,
Speaker 7: So technically.
Speaker 2: Zach Martin and Tyler Smith, both in the top four,
Speaker 2: would both be to starting guards on the Pro Bowl team.
Speaker 7: And think about it.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys, that's fine where they put center on this list.
Speaker 2: Probably Kelsey's number one and Beyondish's number six on the list.
Speaker 7: Well, he was high enough last year to be altered
Speaker 7: as a replacement alternate.
Speaker 3: So you think you get a lot more replacements because
Speaker 3: it's in Orlando.
Speaker 2: And the fact that they don't play anymore, do.
Speaker 7: They, it's gonna be like it's gonna be fewer.
Speaker 2: Replacement there's fewer replacements. Yeah, and so there won't be
Speaker 2: as many people making the Pro Bowl team now that
Speaker 2: they don't play a game.
Speaker 7: And it's less expensive to bring your family with you.
Speaker 7: It's that instead of going to Hawaii, right, you would.
Speaker 6: Hope they don't play in that game. Let's just be
Speaker 6: honest with you.
Speaker 7: Well, but they can get the recognition, right.
Speaker 6: We don't want them to play in the game.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, we understand. Chris let's move on. We got it,
Speaker 7: we got it. Playing in the game is that doesn't
Speaker 7: mean anything, especially when it comes to if people have bonuses.
Speaker 2: Right, you know why Chris was saying that, right, Yes, Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't because we want to play in a game
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. It's called this Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: Nice, good job.
Speaker 7: Well you know what? That was the answer I got
Speaker 7: from DeMarcus Lawrence yesterday when he got done with his
Speaker 7: Man of the Year nomination. Each team nominates one guy.
Speaker 7: I said something to him. I said, we were talking
Speaker 7: about playing the run, I said, And that stuff usually
Speaker 7: never stands out. I said, but it should for the
Speaker 7: Pro Bowl voting. And he goes, yeah, he goes, you know,
Speaker 7: I don't worry about that. I've been to it, he goes.
Speaker 7: He goes, the only Bowl I'm worrying about is the
Speaker 7: Super bowling out. But we talked about playing the run,
Speaker 7: and he basically pointed out, well, he goes, I play
Speaker 7: real football.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 7: He's so just a few words, right, but you got
Speaker 7: to play the run. And he and he talked about
Speaker 7: how it's improved his game by them moving him around
Speaker 7: in different spots, so now they can't focus on well,
Speaker 7: this is all you know I got or no, he said,
Speaker 7: he can focus on different things. Because if you're playing
Speaker 7: always left defensive end, your toolbox is how do I
Speaker 7: win here? But when they put you in the middle
Speaker 7: or the other side, you got to change things up.
Speaker 4: Why didn't teams think of this before?
Speaker 2: They didn't really do it, did they? But Parcels was
Speaker 2: set in his three four defense. You line up and
Speaker 2: it's a certain body type and so forth.
Speaker 7: Charles Haley never moved flex y you know flex Yeah,
Speaker 7: Toota was always right next to him. Charles was on
Speaker 7: the left and Tony Tolbert was on the right.
Speaker 2: They never because football has changed so much in the
Speaker 2: short passing game. And I mean that's the that's why
Speaker 2: Markus Bell can play linebacker.
Speaker 3: Well, it seems like everyone seemed they seemed to be
Speaker 3: so impressed with someone they can play left hand right side.
Speaker 3: And we talked about it last year. I didn't think
Speaker 3: it was a big deal. You know, one tackle versus
Speaker 3: the other offensive tackle. Right, that's that was a big
Speaker 3: deal for us last year having time in play both sides,
Speaker 3: and it was a little bit difficult for him.
Speaker 2: So but I'm talking like defensively you just line up
Speaker 2: their defensive guys where they can come from all any
Speaker 2: you don't know where they're gonna come from.
Speaker 3: But for some reason they don't think that they can
Speaker 3: play both sides. Yeah, I don't know why that is.
Speaker 3: I mean even with cornerbacks that was a kind of taboo.
Speaker 3: Then guys started doing it and you know, next thing,
Speaker 3: you knows, what's the big deal. I just never thought
Speaker 3: that it should make a difference.
Speaker 7: Because there was always a big deal about what was
Speaker 7: he going to follow some wide receiver And it's like, well,
Speaker 7: we don't follow, we play sides.
Speaker 2: I know that, right, But this is just like, for instance,
Speaker 2: the hybrid linebackers where Marque's Bell at two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifteen two hundred and twenty pounds can play linebacker every
Speaker 2: snap on defense.
Speaker 6: Basically.
Speaker 3: Now that that is that's different. Yeah, that is something
Speaker 3: that's different from even that from.
Speaker 6: Five years ago. I remember it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of my favorite guys in the draft, who's
Speaker 2: a kid from Florida State, Telvin Smith, who I mean
Speaker 2: I just love watching his tape from Florida State, which
Speaker 2: was twenty fourteen whatever. He wound up being a fifth
Speaker 2: round draft pick, but he played at Jacksonville and played well.
Speaker 2: I think he may have made the Pro Bowl one
Speaker 2: year and had some off the field stuff, but he
Speaker 2: was two hundred and fifteen pounds basically, and so he
Speaker 2: was you could not draft him even in the third
Speaker 2: round because he's just too small to play inside linebacker
Speaker 2: in this league.
Speaker 6: Whatever.
Speaker 2: But he's made for this this brand of football.
Speaker 7: Never too small anymore, right, Cavante Turpin, by the way,
Speaker 7: I read into rocket Ishmael before the press conference, right,
Speaker 7: and we started talking about returns and how special teams
Speaker 7: seems to specially returns has been two hours later, Yeah, yeah, right,
Speaker 7: that's the way you talked. I had to stop Rockets
Speaker 7: because Schottenheimer came in and I go, I gotta go.
Speaker 6: He's probably still talking.
Speaker 7: He was, he was, He said, oh, I was on
Speaker 7: to Turpin a long time ago. He said my son
Speaker 7: played with him at TCU, and he said, I knew
Speaker 7: this kid had something special. And so we started talking
Speaker 7: about kickoff returns and punt returns and I had looked
Speaker 7: up kickoff returns, right, and so they had it NFC.
Speaker 7: But usually it says NFC, NFL. Well it only said NFC,
Speaker 7: and there was only like a couple guys on there
Speaker 7: right a f C. There were no punt returners listed.
Speaker 7: I don't know if they didn't have any or there
Speaker 7: wasn't enough to qualify. And then you know, we were
Speaker 7: talking about it and his ability to return punts, kickoffs.
Speaker 7: We don't get kickoffs anymore but punts, and he said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 7: I know, because they think he had I think he
Speaker 7: has eleven and twelve games punt returns. I think that's
Speaker 7: what I saw. And yeah, and Rocket goes, oh when
Speaker 7: I saw this guy, he goes, he's got He said,
Speaker 7: he's got this unique ability not only the speed, but
Speaker 7: to read where the blocks are.
Speaker 3: That's what he's got. Yeah, that's what he's got. And
Speaker 3: he's not just out there running fast.
Speaker 7: My favorite guy, right, And so yeah, the.
Speaker 6: Return, Rocket, he knows exactly what its like.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because he was talking about how much they were
Speaker 7: worked on returns before. Uh he said, especially at Notre Dame.
Speaker 7: But now it's like, okay, you might get a you know,
Speaker 7: here's what's going to happen Sunday night. The ninety thousand
Speaker 7: people are going to be standing waving their towels for
Speaker 7: the opening kickoff, right, and then it's going to be
Speaker 7: a touchback. It's like just taking a balloon and pop it, right,
Speaker 7: But that's kind of what they're doing to, you know,
Speaker 7: make sure guys are safe.
Speaker 6: Yeah, damn it.
Speaker 2: And by the way, the Pro Bowl voting for return specialist,
Speaker 2: Cavante Turpin is number four on the list, behind who
Speaker 2: Rashi Shaheed of the Saints is number one, Keishaan Nixon
Speaker 2: of the Packers is number two, and Braxton Barrios of
Speaker 2: the Dolphins is number three.
Speaker 7: I bet you the first two guys have returns for
Speaker 7: touchdown probably yep. That always helps out needs.
Speaker 2: Turpin needs to take one to the house that doesn't
Speaker 2: get called back, right.
Speaker 3: That's the point.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, that's right.
Speaker 4: Well, he won.
Speaker 2: He got on the He was a Pro Bowler last
Speaker 2: year based on two returns for touchdowns in the preseason.
Speaker 6: Basically it was.
Speaker 2: I mean, he had a good average, but he didn't
Speaker 2: take one to the house in the regular season.
Speaker 7: So he's got eleven punt returns, seventeen fair catches, seventy
Speaker 7: three yards so six ' six a return, and then
Speaker 7: on he's only had six kickoff returns. He's averaging thirty
Speaker 7: one point seven thanks to those sixty three Yarders.
Speaker 2: Sunday night would be a perfect time for her to
Speaker 2: take one back to the house, just like Kelvin Martin
Speaker 2: did against the Philadelphia nineteen ninety one when the Cowboys
Speaker 2: won the division in Philadelphia on a cold, wintry day
Speaker 2: in December.
Speaker 7: We had a good, uh good discussion on Philadelphia last
Speaker 7: night on crosstalk uh Nate Newton, and the special guest
Speaker 7: was Jim Jeff oh yeah, and Jeff Coke. Jeff Coat.
Speaker 7: I've never seen Jeff Coat like this before. He grew
Speaker 7: up in Jersey. Yes, I always hated Philadelphia and going
Speaker 7: what and he goes Yeah. I always hated him, and
Speaker 7: then I hated him worse when we had to play him.
Speaker 7: It was pretty funny.
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