WEBVTT - #646 Packers Unscripted: Making the difference 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:10.840 Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:14.120 Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by the 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:16.600 one and only Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.959 from our studios at lambeau Field West. Is just a 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:24.720 couple of days away now, Saturday night, NFL NFC Divisional 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:30.040 Playoff football between the Packers and the forty Niners. And 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.440 before we get into our keys to victory and whatnot 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:37.199 for this game, there's a specific individual here for the 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.400 Packers who's who's worth talking about. And we've gotten the 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:44.839 reaction from UM coaches, teammates and whatnot on on this 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:49.360 player making UM I guess a somewhat surprise appearance on 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:53.760 the UM first team All Pro list that was announced 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:57.160 late last week. And of course I'm talking about inside 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:00.720 linebacker Devandre Campbell. You were the one who said it 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:02.400 on this show and we were talking about the Pro 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:04.759 Bowl and how he didn't get not only didn't get 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.120 Pro Bowl, which wasn't necessarily a surprise, but he wasn't 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:09.960 even an alternati for the Pro Bowl, wasn't on any 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.840 kind of a Pro Bowl recognition list at all. And 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.919 you said, let's just wait until the All Pro votes 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:19.360 come out. Well, I thought he had a pretty good chance, 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.600 maybe to get second team All Pro, First team All Pro. 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.280 Surprised me. I would have to say, let's keep this 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.280 on dev Andre Campbell. Let's start on devonre Campbell. I 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.319 do have some thoughts on the Pro Bowl, though, once 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.520 we get past this. The thing that the reason I 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:35.320 said that is because one of the reasons I really 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:37.720 liked the All Pro team is because they they judge 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.440 guys based on the position which they play. When you 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:43.480 look at strictly inside linebackers, middle linebackers in the National 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.479 Football League, I think Campbell the way he performed this season, 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:50.560 when you look at the statistics, the analytics, all that stuff, 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:55.040 he was among the best of his position. And I realistically, 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.360 if you want to go past the numbers, past anything, 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:00.320 just look at how this defense plays with him on 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.200 the field. Look at the difference in terms of their 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:05.120 production not only against the run, but also what they've 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:08.840 done against tight ends this season, against running backs leaking 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:13.680 out of the backfield, Campbell has been exceptional. And to 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:15.680 see when we didn't get to see it, but to 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:18.880 hear what that moment was like on Friday when when 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:23.200 Matt Flour brings everybody together and announces to the team, Okay, 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.079 we have two pretty obvious first team selections and everybody 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.320 knows what's going on there, and then he mentions, but 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.120 there's a third and it was it was interesting, and 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:32.960 you were the one that asked it. But listening to 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:36.200 Aaron Rodgers kind of like recall his thoughts, They're like, well, 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.720 it could have been Resul Douglas, it could have been 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:43.519 this player, it could have been Devandre and and to 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:45.519 hear we haven't at this point which we're taping, is 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:48.720 we haven't talked to Campbell yet, but to hear what 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:52.320 that moment was, like how enthusiastic the team was when 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.120 it was announced that Campbell was a first team All 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:55.919 Pro and then Campbell to give that speech and he 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.160 said it a number of times this year, but the 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.880 fact that the Packers made him feel value, made him 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:03.320 feel like he was a part of something, and the 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:06.440 biggest thing of all allowed him to become the player 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:09.519 he felt he was capable of being. That is where 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:13.320 this sixth NFL season for Devandra Campbell, I think you 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:15.600 can tell that this is the one for him. That 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.360 was the galvanizing year, not just because of the success, 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:20.760 but because he was finally put in a position with 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:24.200 this defense to be the man. Yeah. And it's interesting 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:29.760 because any anytime, anytime there's a new addition to the team, 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:32.080 there are always questions about, Okay, is that is this 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:34.160 player going to fit the locker room? Is this player 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.920 going to fit the culture? And then there are also 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:40.400 players who who can come along and and who can 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.040 elevate the locker room and they can elevate the culture. 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.200 Devandre Campbell is one of these guys. Not only not 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.800 only does he fit the culture, did he fit it 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.960 right from the beginning, but he also elevated it with 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.960 his play to have the career year that he's had 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.240 stepping into a brand new system. Didn't really have an 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:01.600 offseason program because, as we've mentioned, he signs in the 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.400 middle of June, basically like a week or so before 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:08.520 everybody's being dismissed for the long break before training camp. 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:12.240 And when I look at you know, we get asked 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.840 these questions all the time. Okay, so what's gonna what's 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.760 different about the Packers this year? You know, last two 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:19.840 years the Packers have had a first round by they've 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:24.440 had home games in the playoffs, etcetera, etcetera. And when 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:28.400 I look at what's going on with these with these Packers, 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.120 if you were to if you were to ask me, 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.040 what is the biggest difference between this team and the 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:36.320 previous two teams that have tried to make these runs 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:40.520 to the super Bowl, The biggest difference is Devandre Campbell. Because, yes, 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:42.839 a couple of years ago, A. J. Dillon wasn't here. 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:46.440 He's he's a new player. Russeuell Douglas is is a 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.200 new player this year. You've had other you know, guys 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.760 step in, step up on the offensive line, all of that, 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.440 and I'm not discounting that. But if you were to 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:59.640 ask me the single biggest difference in personnel between this 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.520 pack Ers team and the ones from the previous two 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.320 years that have tried to make this run, Campbell is 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.359 the biggest difference. He changed the way this defense looks, 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:12.200 He changed the way it plays. And uh and I 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.680 took my cap to him because he in a very 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.040 short amount of time he was able to get due 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:20.400 recognition for it, and it made a believer out of me. 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.719 In the middle linebacker position of the inside linebacker position. 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:27.200 You got to see, you know, Nick Barnett in his prime. 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:29.479 You got to see, you know, a J Hawk earlier 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:32.599 in his career. Certainly, Blake Martinez had some good moments 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.760 and and Clay Matthews was exceptional after they moved him 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:39.520 to that inside linebacker position. But Campbell playing at a 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.880 first team All Pro level this year showed you how 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:46.400 dynamic that position can be and just overall what the 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:48.960 domino effect is on the rest of the unit when 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.240 you get elite play from that position. That's stat that 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:55.800 I believe was Mike Reiner was the one. Uh, Mike Reener, 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.720 I'm sorry, Mike if MS pronounced your name. From Pro 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:02.000 Football Focus, that's STAD pumped out about how Campbell was 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.920 the only linebacker in the National Football League with at 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.359 least eighty solo tackles that had fewer than double digit 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.560 miss tackles and he only had four. Four was one 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.200 of the most illuminating things about this season, because while 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.680 you and I aren't sitting there counting miss tackles every game, 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:19.760 as soon as I said that, I was like, you know, 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:21.280 throughout the course of the year, I didn't see a 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:23.880 whole lot of miss tackles from Devondre Campbell, especially in 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.960 open space, like when he's in the open field man, 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.000 it was like a magnet to the football. He got 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.000 that guy to the ground, or at least held him 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:32.600 up long enough for the rest of the guys to come. 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.960 There's no whiffing in his game, and that's not easy 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.040 to do. That's a moving target that you're trying to 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.280 put an arrow through, and Campbell has done a really 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.400 good job of it. In addition, he's long, he's lengthy, 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:45.680 and and you can just tell how much this meant 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.840 to him into this team. The Green Bay Packers are 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:49.040 going to try to get on a run here. They're 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:50.920 gonna try to beat the San Francisco forty Niners. They're 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:52.720 gonna try to win this thing at home in the 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:54.760 NFC Championship Game, and they're gonna attempt to try to 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:58.600 win a Super Bowl. If those three things are gonna happen, 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.440 Devandre Campbell, Russell Douglas, some of these guys that you 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.320 and I were not talking about on June one are 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:10.239 going to be the reason it occurs. I've been again 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:12.200 as I said, it made a believer out of me. 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.080 This guy has made a believer out of me. And 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.640 what the importances of the inside linebacker position in the 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:20.280 National Football League in two thousand. Also, just can I 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:23.160 make the point about the Pro Bowl really quick? Congratulations 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.880 also to Devandre Campbell. Hopefully he's in Green Bay. I 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.120 don't know where he's playing next year. You'll be a 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.880 free agent after the season, but congratulations the two thousand 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:35.200 twenty three Pro Bowl selection already coming his way. You 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:39.640 can see it happening. The most antiquated of antiquated systems 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:43.480 in the National Football League Pro Bowl voting outside linebackers 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:46.560 having to play inside linebacker because they can't differentiate a 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.920 defensive end from an edge rusher. H Rogers called it. 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:53.000 Rogers called it the bok tr treatment, right because David 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.680 Baktr got All Pro recognition before he ever got a 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.720 Pro Bowl. Same thing happened with Corey Lindsley. He gets 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:01.800 first team All Pro last year, and then this year 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.600 with the Chargers in his new free agent contract, he 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:08.000 makes his first Pro Bowl. And as you said, you 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.440 can pretty much right in in ink. You don't even 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.360 need to put it in pencil in ink of Andrea 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.960 Campbell will be a Pro Bowler next season. Because the 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:19.440 All Pro recognition came first. A lot of things happened 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.280 with the hubb ark Ish thing. I know there's a 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.760 lot of questions about the voting process. I told you 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:25.600 I wrote about it. I think I said on the show, 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.920 the AP voters take that responsibility series they do and 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.200 for them to actually acknowledge that. The other thing they've 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:34.920 gotten right to they right tackle is the first team 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:38.440 All Pro right tackle, they do a third receiver now 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:40.880 instead of trying to do a fullback or reflex position. 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:44.240 The I tip my cap to the Associated Press. They 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.760 have adjusted to the times. I would really like to 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.319 see the Pro Bowl voting do that as well. Yeah. Absolutely, 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.800 And the the for the All Pro voting, there there 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:58.079 were three linebackers, essentially three interior linebackers who were selected 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:02.120 and uh and Campbell Hamble was able to get that 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.679 that third spot in the voting. So that's why he 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:09.160 became a first teamer other than Aaron Rodgers. Telling that 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:14.160 great story on Tuesday about the reveal by Matt Lafleur 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.600 of the All Pro selections for the team and how 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.600 the team reacted. The other thing that I took out 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:23.880 of um his session with the media, and I wrote 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:27.280 about this on the website the other day. There's a 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:31.400 there's a there's a mindset here with this team that 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:34.240 that that's permeating a little bit. You know, back in 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:38.480 t nineteen it was Matt Lafleur's first season, Packers kind 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.480 of came out of nowhere in some respects to go 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.160 thirteen and three right after back to back seasons of 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:48.880 not making the playoffs. And there's we heard all the 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.440 cliches about oh, you know, everything's gonna be more intense, 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:54.040 you gotta step up your game, you know, blah blah blah. 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.640 We didn't hear We didn't hear that from Aaron Rodgers 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.440 this year, and I think there, you know, it's it's 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.000 not about you know, oh, find another level of intensity, 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.760 turn it up a notch. That's not what this is about. 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:09.679 This team. This Packers team has you know, has been 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.280 there and done that in terms of gotten into the playoffs, 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.400 had some success in the playoffs. No, they haven't had 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.160 all the success that they want to have, but they 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.679 believe in who they are, they believe in their process, 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:22.640 and they're not going to suddenly try to just go 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:26.640 outside themselves too, you know, to play the hero. The 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.600 sense that I get is this team, this team, this 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:34.840 locker room is very much staying within itself, and they're 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.280 going to be very very business like in a lot 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:39.840 of ways when when they take the field on Saturday 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.040 night against the forty nine ers. This is this is 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:45.360 all business for these guys because because they've been here before, 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:49.240 they've won this game before, and they will focus on 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.360 winning this game. But they have they feel they have 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.400 so much more out in front of them, and and 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:55.760 running around and throwing her arms and doing all the 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.080 raw raw stuff and all that. That's that's not the 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:01.680 personality of the squad. It's a rate story in terms 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.560 of this matchup. And you have the San Francisco forty 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:09.319 Niners who were so close to winning a Super Bowl championship, 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.400 got to the promised Land and just tripped a couple 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:14.520 of bricks before the finish line. You have the Green 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.840 Bay Packers, who have been to back to back NFC 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:21.680 Championship games two thousand. Didn't go so hot last year. 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.120 It was right there for them. They got the turnovers late, 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:27.560 they just couldn't finish it. They're trying to finally cross 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.160 that precipice to be able to get back to a 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.360 Super Bowl for the first time in eleven years. You 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.440 can't draw it up any better. My first thing I 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.120 think I wrote an insider inbox this week was this 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:40.160 game sells itself. Our photo, our video department. Do a 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:44.400 fantastic job with the trailer. We'll have all the popping circumstances. 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.040 You could sell this with a flyer and a guy 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.400 standing down at the corner just telling me the tickets 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.520 are on sale. That's how big this matchup is. And 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.360 there's a Shanahan La floor angle. There's all these different 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.760 story lines that go with it, but ultimately you have 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.560 two of the league's best teams. I know it's been 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.920 tough for the forty Niners. They've had injuries, they've had setbacks, 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.720 but they've found their way back to this point in 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.680 the Green Bay Packers. Mike, what I've been telling fans 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:14.080 all week long, it's time to be confident. I understand 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:16.440 there's some nervous energy there. I understand the Packers have 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:18.319 had some playoff runs here. They haven't ended the way 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.360 you wanted. You didn't get that hat on your head 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.400 that you were hoping to get at the end of 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:26.520 the season. But they're the first seat and they've played 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.199 really well in the divisional round. At home here these 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:33.040 last few seasons, be confident and and if you can 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.200 take any solace from the fact that, well the fordni 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.400 is really hot, Are they really tough matchup? Of course 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:41.360 they are. Why wouldn't they be. But remember the Packers 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:44.000 have been the team other than Week one, have been 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.520 arguably the most consistent team in the National Football League. 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:48.560 Forty Niners have one some close ball games, they've eaten 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:50.839 some good football teams, but the Packers have been doing 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.160 it longer. And I feel like, especially as they've cut 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:56.600 back to better health, now this is the time for 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:58.679 all those things to kind of click in together and 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:02.080 make that final push. Absolutely, I just I like the 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.320 I like the mindset, the approach of this team. Aaron 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.320 Rodgers said, We're not going to make this any bigger 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.200 than it is. Everybody knows it's big, it's it's it's 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.120 the playoffs, it's winn or go home and all that. 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.000 But you don't make it any bigger than it is. 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:14.960 You believe in who you are, you believe in your 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:19.120 process and uh m, and you believe that playing your 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.520 best football is going to get the job done. Can 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:23.880 I say one other thing? I'm not saying that Kyle Shanahan, 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.040 you know, and you know their offensive coaches stuff. Don't 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.160 have some tricks up their sleeves yet. But you know, 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:30.440 so many people are saying, well, how are they going 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.320 to defend Deebo Samuel? How are they can do all 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.400 this stuff? The one benefit to being able to have 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.360 a buy as opposed to playing that wild card game, 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:40.920 sam fran Heado empty the holster with a lot of 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:44.000 their play calling. We saw Trent Williams motioning for crying 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:47.240 out loud. I mean the reverse looks that they did 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.880 with with Samuel. That stuff's on film. I'm not saying 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.319 that the forty Niners can't hit it against you, but 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.280 the Packers have seen how dynamic this guy is gonna be. 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.600 There's gonna be no blind sides here. You have to execute, 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:01.360 you have to tackle, you have to be on your keys. 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.760 But the Packers, they have a whole bag of tricks 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:06.720 here that they haven't shown yet. Going to the playoffs, 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.560 maximize those chances. Yeah, absolutely, And I want to get 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.160 to uh those keys to victory here in a minute. 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.400 West But first Serious x M NFL Radio delivers hard 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.360 hitting analysis and up to the minute NFL news that 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:23.440 true football fanatics need seven three six, and at Cousin Subs, 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.200 we have something for everyone like our Wisconsin Cheese curds, 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.440 mac and Cheese, golden fries, and creamy shakes, all paired 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:32.840 with your favorite sub or sub in a bowl. Cousin Subs, 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.720 we believe in better. All right, you just mentioned a 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.320 couple of things to me. One thing in particular that 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.200 stands out to me is a key to victory for 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:45.280 the Packers in this game, and that is to tackle um. 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:50.120 Deebo Samuel has the statistics he has because he breaks 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:54.040 tackles and gets yards after contact. George Kittle has the 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:57.320 statistics that he has as a pass catcher because he 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:00.680 takes short throws and they rupture into big games because 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.480 he's hard to bring down. The Packers have to be 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.640 on their pas and cues. With the tackling Deebo Samuel 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:08.560 and George Kittle and these guys, they are going to 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.840 make their plays the differences. Are they going to be 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.880 able to turn a seven yard play into a seventeen 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.760 or a twenty seven yard play? Is George Kittle going 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:19.960 to be able to turn a ten yard catch into 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:23.600 a twenty two or twenty eight yard catch, being able 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:26.000 to make your tackles Devandre Campbell, as we talked about, 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.320 he doesn't miss him right, But the rest of the 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.560 Packers have to tackle in this game as well as 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:33.880 Davandre Campbell does, because that's what the forty Niners live 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.760 off of, is the broken tackles in the yards after 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.720 contact to move the chains and to create the big 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:43.760 plays that get their offense rolling. Cooper Cup Davante Adams 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.840 both unanimous first team All Pro selections. I don't think 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.200 anyone can argue with that. There was a lot of 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.280 controversy in the minds of some people that Samuel got 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:57.280 the third spot over Justin Jefferson. Both are great players, absolutely, 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.640 but the the X factor with Samuel for me is 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.760 I'm not a lie of sports bureau. I'd like to 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.200 see a stat of how many players in NFL history 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:08.280 had seventy five catches and averaged over eighteen yards per catch. 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:12.000 I mean, that tells you he's not just the possession receiver. 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.840 He's an explosive receiver. That's that's like James Lofton territory, 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.080 but doing it in a in a much different way 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:21.280 than James Lofton. Yeah, exactly, And and especially in this 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:23.560 day and age with passing offenses. Teams are ready for 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.560 this stuff. And the guy didn't matter when he had 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:27.120 the ball in his hand. It's in an open space, 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:28.920 He's going to be able to find ways to hurt you. 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.280 The Packers can't let that happen. I don't know what 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.640 the secondary is gonna look like. I don't know how 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:35.880 they're going to configure if g I R. Alexander's back, 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.640 where he's gonna play. If he's back, who comes out, 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:40.760 who goes in? What packages are going to come up with? 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.480 All I know is whoever draws that assignment on a 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:47.280 given play has to lock in like that is the 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.400 most important rep of their season, because, as we've seen 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:52.840 over and over and over again, especially these last two 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:56.680 months with the Niners, when Samuel gets going that bowling 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.880 ball doesn't stop and and being able to actually care 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.640 hail him while keeping an eye on Kittle. Brandon Ayuk 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:04.920 as the guy that nobody is talking about this week 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.280 that really has come on since that Week three matchup 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:12.480 with Green Bay. They have weapons, Elijah Mitchell in the backfield. 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:15.399 For me, the biggest key is going to be what 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:18.440 happens with Jimmy Garoppolo, because I don't see this being 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:20.919 a game or Jimmy Garoppolo throws the ball twelve times, 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.119 he's gonna have to make some throws. They're gonna want 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.040 to run the ball. You see the playoff statistics. They 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.880 run the ball in the postseason with Shanahan, but with 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:31.480 the shoulder, with the thumb. The Packers could potentially have 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.879 Sadarius Smith back, Whitney Merciless back. Maybe we'll see. Not 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:39.200 promising anything, but if those guys are there to take 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:43.280 reps off of Preston Smith, Rashaan Gary, Kenny Clark in 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.879 the middle had a really nice performance earlier this season 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.680 against Alex Mac. I want to see the pressure that 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:50.640 they can generate. I want to see them stop the run. 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:52.240 I want to see them be able to have success 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.600 against Garoppolo and win this game in a lot of 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:58.119 the same ways you won Week three, forcing turnovers, creating 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:01.680 points and opportunities off those takeaways. Yeah. Absolutely. And before 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.240 before we came in here and turned on the cameras 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:07.000 to to shoot this episode of unscripted, we went outside 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:11.240 in the bowl to shoot our final thoughts. Um. Yeah. 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:13.720 With with the week being a little condensed with the 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.439 Saturday game. There, you know certain things we're doing on 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:20.879 on different days. There's only two of us. But the 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.479 one of the things that I mentioned in that video 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:26.199 in terms of a key to victory here for the Packers, 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.520 and I've said this with some other games this season 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:32.600 as well, but it's about it's about withstanding the surge 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.199 from the opponent. And I say that particularly with the 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:38.520 forty niners because of when you look at their last 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:41.720 two games, as we talked about earlier in the week, 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.640 they were down seventeen nothing to the Rams, with their 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:48.040 with their season on the line, and then they surged 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.120 all the way back right and and they were able 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.640 to get that game tied up seventeen seventeen and then 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.240 make it a back and forth contest there down the stretch. 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.800 Last week against the Cowboys, they jumped all over Dallas 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.080 in the beginning. The surge is right out of the gate, 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.280 and it was thirteen and nothing before the Dallas Cowboys 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:08.520 even caught their breath. Um, that surge is coming at 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.639 some point from the forty enters on Saturday night. I 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.520 don't know if it's going to be right away in 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:14.000 the first quarter. I don't know if it's going to 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.439 be coming out of halftime, or if it's gonna be 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:21.240 somewhere in between. But this this forty Niners offense, and 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:23.760 combined with the pass rush of the defense, they're they're 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.480 gonna have this surge and the Packers are going to 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.320 have to limit the damage. They're going to have to 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:32.479 survive that surge. And it might just be stopping them 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:34.679 on a given drive to force a field goal, getting 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:37.840 a key third down stop. Maybe it's maybe it's getting 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:42.280 a turnover that that suddenly flips the momentum of the game. 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:45.280 But the Packers are going to have to withstand that surge. 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:47.359 These playoff games, you know how they go west, the 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.639 momentum shifts are huge, and both teams are going to 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:53.840 have the momentum at different times in the game, and 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:56.240 when the other team has it, you have to limit 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:58.520