1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by the 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: one and only Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: from our studios at lambeau Field West. Is just a 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: couple of days away now, Saturday night, NFL NFC Divisional 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: Playoff football between the Packers and the forty Niners. And 7 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: before we get into our keys to victory and whatnot 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: for this game, there's a specific individual here for the 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: Packers who's who's worth talking about. And we've gotten the 10 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: reaction from UM coaches, teammates and whatnot on on this 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: player making UM I guess a somewhat surprise appearance on 12 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: the UM first team All Pro list that was announced 13 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: late last week. And of course I'm talking about inside 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: linebacker Devandre Campbell. You were the one who said it 15 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: on this show and we were talking about the Pro 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: Bowl and how he didn't get not only didn't get 17 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, which wasn't necessarily a surprise, but he wasn't 18 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: even an alternati for the Pro Bowl, wasn't on any 19 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: kind of a Pro Bowl recognition list at all. And 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,919 Speaker 1: you said, let's just wait until the All Pro votes 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: come out. Well, I thought he had a pretty good chance, 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: maybe to get second team All Pro, First team All Pro. 23 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: Surprised me. I would have to say, let's keep this 24 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: on dev Andre Campbell. Let's start on devonre Campbell. I 25 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: do have some thoughts on the Pro Bowl, though, once 26 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: we get past this. The thing that the reason I 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: said that is because one of the reasons I really 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: liked the All Pro team is because they they judge 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: guys based on the position which they play. When you 30 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: look at strictly inside linebackers, middle linebackers in the National 31 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: Football League, I think Campbell the way he performed this season, 32 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: when you look at the statistics, the analytics, all that stuff, 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: he was among the best of his position. And I realistically, 34 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: if you want to go past the numbers, past anything, 35 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: just look at how this defense plays with him on 36 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: the field. Look at the difference in terms of their 37 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: production not only against the run, but also what they've 38 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: done against tight ends this season, against running backs leaking 39 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: out of the backfield, Campbell has been exceptional. And to 40 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: see when we didn't get to see it, but to 41 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: hear what that moment was like on Friday when when 42 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: Matt Flour brings everybody together and announces to the team, Okay, 43 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: we have two pretty obvious first team selections and everybody 44 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: knows what's going on there, and then he mentions, but 45 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: there's a third and it was it was interesting, and 46 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: you were the one that asked it. But listening to 47 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers kind of like recall his thoughts, They're like, well, 48 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: it could have been Resul Douglas, it could have been 49 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: this player, it could have been Devandre and and to 50 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: hear we haven't at this point which we're taping, is 51 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: we haven't talked to Campbell yet, but to hear what 52 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: that moment was, like how enthusiastic the team was when 53 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: it was announced that Campbell was a first team All 54 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: Pro and then Campbell to give that speech and he 55 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: said it a number of times this year, but the 56 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: fact that the Packers made him feel value, made him 57 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: feel like he was a part of something, and the 58 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: biggest thing of all allowed him to become the player 59 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: he felt he was capable of being. That is where 60 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: this sixth NFL season for Devandra Campbell, I think you 61 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: can tell that this is the one for him. That 62 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: was the galvanizing year, not just because of the success, 63 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: but because he was finally put in a position with 64 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: this defense to be the man. Yeah. And it's interesting 65 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: because any anytime, anytime there's a new addition to the team, 66 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: there are always questions about, Okay, is that is this 67 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: player going to fit the locker room? Is this player 68 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: going to fit the culture? And then there are also 69 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: players who who can come along and and who can 70 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: elevate the locker room and they can elevate the culture. 71 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: Devandre Campbell is one of these guys. Not only not 72 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: only does he fit the culture, did he fit it 73 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: right from the beginning, but he also elevated it with 74 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: his play to have the career year that he's had 75 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: stepping into a brand new system. Didn't really have an 76 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: offseason program because, as we've mentioned, he signs in the 77 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: middle of June, basically like a week or so before 78 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: everybody's being dismissed for the long break before training camp. 79 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: And when I look at you know, we get asked 80 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: these questions all the time. Okay, so what's gonna what's 81 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: different about the Packers this year? You know, last two 82 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: years the Packers have had a first round by they've 83 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: had home games in the playoffs, etcetera, etcetera. And when 84 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: I look at what's going on with these with these Packers, 85 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: if you were to if you were to ask me, 86 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: what is the biggest difference between this team and the 87 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: previous two teams that have tried to make these runs 88 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, The biggest difference is Devandre Campbell. Because, yes, 89 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, A. J. Dillon wasn't here. 90 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: He's he's a new player. Russeuell Douglas is is a 91 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: new player this year. You've had other you know, guys 92 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: step in, step up on the offensive line, all of that, 93 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: and I'm not discounting that. But if you were to 94 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: ask me the single biggest difference in personnel between this 95 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: pack Ers team and the ones from the previous two 96 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: years that have tried to make this run, Campbell is 97 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: the biggest difference. He changed the way this defense looks, 98 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: He changed the way it plays. And uh and I 99 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: took my cap to him because he in a very 100 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: short amount of time he was able to get due 101 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: recognition for it, and it made a believer out of me. 102 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: In the middle linebacker position of the inside linebacker position. 103 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: You got to see, you know, Nick Barnett in his prime. 104 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: You got to see, you know, a J Hawk earlier 105 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: in his career. Certainly, Blake Martinez had some good moments 106 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: and and Clay Matthews was exceptional after they moved him 107 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: to that inside linebacker position. But Campbell playing at a 108 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: first team All Pro level this year showed you how 109 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: dynamic that position can be and just overall what the 110 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: domino effect is on the rest of the unit when 111 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: you get elite play from that position. That's stat that 112 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: I believe was Mike Reiner was the one. Uh, Mike Reener, 113 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Mike if MS pronounced your name. From Pro 114 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: Football Focus, that's STAD pumped out about how Campbell was 115 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: the only linebacker in the National Football League with at 116 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: least eighty solo tackles that had fewer than double digit 117 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: miss tackles and he only had four. Four was one 118 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: of the most illuminating things about this season, because while 119 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: you and I aren't sitting there counting miss tackles every game, 120 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: as soon as I said that, I was like, you know, 121 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: throughout the course of the year, I didn't see a 122 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: whole lot of miss tackles from Devondre Campbell, especially in 123 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: open space, like when he's in the open field man, 124 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: it was like a magnet to the football. He got 125 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: that guy to the ground, or at least held him 126 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: up long enough for the rest of the guys to come. 127 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: There's no whiffing in his game, and that's not easy 128 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: to do. That's a moving target that you're trying to 129 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: put an arrow through, and Campbell has done a really 130 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: good job of it. In addition, he's long, he's lengthy, 131 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: and and you can just tell how much this meant 132 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: to him into this team. The Green Bay Packers are 133 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: going to try to get on a run here. They're 134 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: gonna try to beat the San Francisco forty Niners. They're 135 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: gonna try to win this thing at home in the 136 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: NFC Championship Game, and they're gonna attempt to try to 137 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. If those three things are gonna happen, 138 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: Devandre Campbell, Russell Douglas, some of these guys that you 139 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: and I were not talking about on June one are 140 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 1: going to be the reason it occurs. I've been again 141 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: as I said, it made a believer out of me. 142 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: This guy has made a believer out of me. And 143 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: what the importances of the inside linebacker position in the 144 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: National Football League in two thousand. Also, just can I 145 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: make the point about the Pro Bowl really quick? Congratulations 146 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: also to Devandre Campbell. Hopefully he's in Green Bay. I 147 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: don't know where he's playing next year. You'll be a 148 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: free agent after the season, but congratulations the two thousand 149 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: twenty three Pro Bowl selection already coming his way. You 150 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: can see it happening. The most antiquated of antiquated systems 151 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: in the National Football League Pro Bowl voting outside linebackers 152 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: having to play inside linebacker because they can't differentiate a 153 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: defensive end from an edge rusher. H Rogers called it. 154 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: Rogers called it the bok tr treatment, right because David 155 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: Baktr got All Pro recognition before he ever got a 156 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Same thing happened with Corey Lindsley. He gets 157 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: first team All Pro last year, and then this year 158 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: with the Chargers in his new free agent contract, he 159 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: makes his first Pro Bowl. And as you said, you 160 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: can pretty much right in in ink. You don't even 161 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: need to put it in pencil in ink of Andrea 162 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: Campbell will be a Pro Bowler next season. Because the 163 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: All Pro recognition came first. A lot of things happened 164 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: with the hubb ark Ish thing. I know there's a 165 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: lot of questions about the voting process. I told you 166 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: I wrote about it. I think I said on the show, 167 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: the AP voters take that responsibility series they do and 168 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: for them to actually acknowledge that. The other thing they've 169 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: gotten right to they right tackle is the first team 170 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: All Pro right tackle, they do a third receiver now 171 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: instead of trying to do a fullback or reflex position. 172 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: The I tip my cap to the Associated Press. They 173 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: have adjusted to the times. I would really like to 174 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: see the Pro Bowl voting do that as well. Yeah. Absolutely, 175 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: And the the for the All Pro voting, there there 176 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: were three linebackers, essentially three interior linebackers who were selected 177 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: and uh and Campbell Hamble was able to get that 178 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: that third spot in the voting. So that's why he 179 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: became a first teamer other than Aaron Rodgers. Telling that 180 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: great story on Tuesday about the reveal by Matt Lafleur 181 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: of the All Pro selections for the team and how 182 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: the team reacted. The other thing that I took out 183 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: of um his session with the media, and I wrote 184 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: about this on the website the other day. There's a 185 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: there's a there's a mindset here with this team that 186 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: that that's permeating a little bit. You know, back in 187 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: t nineteen it was Matt Lafleur's first season, Packers kind 188 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: of came out of nowhere in some respects to go 189 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: thirteen and three right after back to back seasons of 190 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: not making the playoffs. And there's we heard all the 191 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: cliches about oh, you know, everything's gonna be more intense, 192 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: you gotta step up your game, you know, blah blah blah. 193 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: We didn't hear We didn't hear that from Aaron Rodgers 194 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: this year, and I think there, you know, it's it's 195 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: not about you know, oh, find another level of intensity, 196 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: turn it up a notch. That's not what this is about. 197 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: This team. This Packers team has you know, has been 198 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: there and done that in terms of gotten into the playoffs, 199 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: had some success in the playoffs. No, they haven't had 200 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: all the success that they want to have, but they 201 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: believe in who they are, they believe in their process, 202 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: and they're not going to suddenly try to just go 203 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: outside themselves too, you know, to play the hero. The 204 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: sense that I get is this team, this team, this 205 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: locker room is very much staying within itself, and they're 206 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: going to be very very business like in a lot 207 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: of ways when when they take the field on Saturday 208 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: night against the forty nine ers. This is this is 209 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: all business for these guys because because they've been here before, 210 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: they've won this game before, and they will focus on 211 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: winning this game. But they have they feel they have 212 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: so much more out in front of them, and and 213 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: running around and throwing her arms and doing all the 214 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: raw raw stuff and all that. That's that's not the 215 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: personality of the squad. It's a rate story in terms 216 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: of this matchup. And you have the San Francisco forty 217 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: Niners who were so close to winning a Super Bowl championship, 218 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: got to the promised Land and just tripped a couple 219 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: of bricks before the finish line. You have the Green 220 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: Bay Packers, who have been to back to back NFC 221 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: Championship games two thousand. Didn't go so hot last year. 222 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: It was right there for them. They got the turnovers late, 223 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: they just couldn't finish it. They're trying to finally cross 224 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: that precipice to be able to get back to a 225 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: Super Bowl for the first time in eleven years. You 226 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: can't draw it up any better. My first thing I 227 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: think I wrote an insider inbox this week was this 228 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: game sells itself. Our photo, our video department. Do a 229 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: fantastic job with the trailer. We'll have all the popping circumstances. 230 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: You could sell this with a flyer and a guy 231 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: standing down at the corner just telling me the tickets 232 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: are on sale. That's how big this matchup is. And 233 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: there's a Shanahan La floor angle. There's all these different 234 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: story lines that go with it, but ultimately you have 235 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: two of the league's best teams. I know it's been 236 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: tough for the forty Niners. They've had injuries, they've had setbacks, 237 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: but they've found their way back to this point in 238 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. Mike, what I've been telling fans 239 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: all week long, it's time to be confident. I understand 240 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: there's some nervous energy there. I understand the Packers have 241 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: had some playoff runs here. They haven't ended the way 242 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: you wanted. You didn't get that hat on your head 243 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: that you were hoping to get at the end of 244 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: the season. But they're the first seat and they've played 245 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: really well in the divisional round. At home here these 246 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: last few seasons, be confident and and if you can 247 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: take any solace from the fact that, well the fordni 248 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: is really hot, Are they really tough matchup? Of course 249 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: they are. Why wouldn't they be. But remember the Packers 250 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: have been the team other than Week one, have been 251 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: arguably the most consistent team in the National Football League. 252 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: Forty Niners have one some close ball games, they've eaten 253 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: some good football teams, but the Packers have been doing 254 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: it longer. And I feel like, especially as they've cut 255 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: back to better health, now this is the time for 256 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: all those things to kind of click in together and 257 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: make that final push. Absolutely, I just I like the 258 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: I like the mindset, the approach of this team. Aaron 259 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: Rodgers said, We're not going to make this any bigger 260 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: than it is. Everybody knows it's big, it's it's it's 261 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs, it's winn or go home and all that. 262 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: But you don't make it any bigger than it is. 263 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: You believe in who you are, you believe in your 264 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: process and uh m, and you believe that playing your 265 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: best football is going to get the job done. Can 266 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: I say one other thing? I'm not saying that Kyle Shanahan, 267 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, and you know their offensive coaches stuff. Don't 268 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: have some tricks up their sleeves yet. But you know, 269 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: so many people are saying, well, how are they going 270 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: to defend Deebo Samuel? How are they can do all 271 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: this stuff? The one benefit to being able to have 272 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: a buy as opposed to playing that wild card game, 273 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: sam fran Heado empty the holster with a lot of 274 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: their play calling. We saw Trent Williams motioning for crying 275 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: out loud. I mean the reverse looks that they did 276 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: with with Samuel. That stuff's on film. I'm not saying 277 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: that the forty Niners can't hit it against you, but 278 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: the Packers have seen how dynamic this guy is gonna be. 279 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: There's gonna be no blind sides here. You have to execute, 280 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: you have to tackle, you have to be on your keys. 281 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: But the Packers, they have a whole bag of tricks 282 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: here that they haven't shown yet. Going to the playoffs, 283 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: maximize those chances. Yeah, absolutely, And I want to get 284 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: to uh those keys to victory here in a minute. 285 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: West But first Serious x M NFL Radio delivers hard 286 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: hitting analysis and up to the minute NFL news that 287 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: true football fanatics need seven three six, and at Cousin Subs, 288 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: we have something for everyone like our Wisconsin Cheese curds, 289 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: mac and Cheese, golden fries, and creamy shakes, all paired 290 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: with your favorite sub or sub in a bowl. Cousin Subs, 291 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: we believe in better. All right, you just mentioned a 292 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: couple of things to me. One thing in particular that 293 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: stands out to me is a key to victory for 294 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: the Packers in this game, and that is to tackle um. 295 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel has the statistics he has because he breaks 296 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: tackles and gets yards after contact. George Kittle has the 297 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: statistics that he has as a pass catcher because he 298 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: takes short throws and they rupture into big games because 299 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: he's hard to bring down. The Packers have to be 300 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: on their pas and cues. With the tackling Deebo Samuel 301 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: and George Kittle and these guys, they are going to 302 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: make their plays the differences. Are they going to be 303 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: able to turn a seven yard play into a seventeen 304 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: or a twenty seven yard play? Is George Kittle going 305 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: to be able to turn a ten yard catch into 306 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: a twenty two or twenty eight yard catch, being able 307 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: to make your tackles Devandre Campbell, as we talked about, 308 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: he doesn't miss him right, But the rest of the 309 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: Packers have to tackle in this game as well as 310 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: Davandre Campbell does, because that's what the forty Niners live 311 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: off of, is the broken tackles in the yards after 312 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: contact to move the chains and to create the big 313 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: plays that get their offense rolling. Cooper Cup Davante Adams 314 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: both unanimous first team All Pro selections. I don't think 315 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: anyone can argue with that. There was a lot of 316 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: controversy in the minds of some people that Samuel got 317 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: the third spot over Justin Jefferson. Both are great players, absolutely, 318 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: but the the X factor with Samuel for me is 319 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: I'm not a lie of sports bureau. I'd like to 320 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: see a stat of how many players in NFL history 321 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: had seventy five catches and averaged over eighteen yards per catch. 322 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that tells you he's not just the possession receiver. 323 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: He's an explosive receiver. That's that's like James Lofton territory, 324 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: but doing it in a in a much different way 325 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: than James Lofton. Yeah, exactly, And and especially in this 326 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: day and age with passing offenses. Teams are ready for 327 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: this stuff. And the guy didn't matter when he had 328 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: the ball in his hand. It's in an open space, 329 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: He's going to be able to find ways to hurt you. 330 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: The Packers can't let that happen. I don't know what 331 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: the secondary is gonna look like. I don't know how 332 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: they're going to configure if g I R. Alexander's back, 333 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: where he's gonna play. If he's back, who comes out, 334 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: who goes in? What packages are going to come up with? 335 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: All I know is whoever draws that assignment on a 336 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: given play has to lock in like that is the 337 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: most important rep of their season, because, as we've seen 338 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: over and over and over again, especially these last two 339 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: months with the Niners, when Samuel gets going that bowling 340 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: ball doesn't stop and and being able to actually care 341 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: hail him while keeping an eye on Kittle. Brandon Ayuk 342 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: as the guy that nobody is talking about this week 343 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: that really has come on since that Week three matchup 344 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: with Green Bay. They have weapons, Elijah Mitchell in the backfield. 345 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: For me, the biggest key is going to be what 346 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: happens with Jimmy Garoppolo, because I don't see this being 347 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: a game or Jimmy Garoppolo throws the ball twelve times, 348 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to make some throws. They're gonna want 349 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: to run the ball. You see the playoff statistics. They 350 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: run the ball in the postseason with Shanahan, but with 351 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: the shoulder, with the thumb. The Packers could potentially have 352 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: Sadarius Smith back, Whitney Merciless back. Maybe we'll see. Not 353 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: promising anything, but if those guys are there to take 354 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: reps off of Preston Smith, Rashaan Gary, Kenny Clark in 355 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: the middle had a really nice performance earlier this season 356 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: against Alex Mac. I want to see the pressure that 357 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: they can generate. I want to see them stop the run. 358 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: I want to see them be able to have success 359 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: against Garoppolo and win this game in a lot of 360 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: the same ways you won Week three, forcing turnovers, creating 361 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: points and opportunities off those takeaways. Yeah. Absolutely. And before 362 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: before we came in here and turned on the cameras 363 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: to to shoot this episode of unscripted, we went outside 364 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: in the bowl to shoot our final thoughts. Um. Yeah. 365 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: With with the week being a little condensed with the 366 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: Saturday game. There, you know certain things we're doing on 367 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: on different days. There's only two of us. But the 368 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 1: one of the things that I mentioned in that video 369 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: in terms of a key to victory here for the Packers, 370 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: and I've said this with some other games this season 371 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: as well, but it's about it's about withstanding the surge 372 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: from the opponent. And I say that particularly with the 373 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: forty niners because of when you look at their last 374 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: two games, as we talked about earlier in the week, 375 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: they were down seventeen nothing to the Rams, with their 376 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: with their season on the line, and then they surged 377 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: all the way back right and and they were able 378 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: to get that game tied up seventeen seventeen and then 379 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: make it a back and forth contest there down the stretch. 380 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: Last week against the Cowboys, they jumped all over Dallas 381 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: in the beginning. The surge is right out of the gate, 382 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: and it was thirteen and nothing before the Dallas Cowboys 383 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: even caught their breath. Um, that surge is coming at 384 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: some point from the forty enters on Saturday night. I 385 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: don't know if it's going to be right away in 386 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: the first quarter. I don't know if it's going to 387 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: be coming out of halftime, or if it's gonna be 388 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: somewhere in between. But this this forty Niners offense, and 389 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: combined with the pass rush of the defense, they're they're 390 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: gonna have this surge and the Packers are going to 391 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: have to limit the damage. They're going to have to 392 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 1: survive that surge. And it might just be stopping them 393 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: on a given drive to force a field goal, getting 394 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: a key third down stop. Maybe it's maybe it's getting 395 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: a turnover that that suddenly flips the momentum of the game. 396 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: But the Packers are going to have to withstand that surge. 397 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: These playoff games, you know how they go west, the 398 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: momentum shifts are huge, and both teams are going to 399 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: have the momentum at different times in the game, and 400 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: when the other team has it, you have to limit 401 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: it as best you can and and try to turn 402 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: it back your way as as soon as possible. And 403 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: I think that applies on Saturday night. The point I 404 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: made all week is San Francisco one in Dallas. Because 405 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: of that opening surge. People can make their little memes 406 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: of McCarthy. That's fine, he's a big boy, he can 407 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: take it. But the fact of the matter is it 408 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: was what the forty Niners did in that first quarter 409 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: that enabled them to be able to outlast the Cowboys 410 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: in the second half. And at the end, Dallas did 411 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: a lot of things right, but ultimately we're too far 412 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: in the hole by the time their offense started clicking late. 413 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: San Francisco is going to look to do that again 414 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: here because you're at an opposing venue, You're gonna want 415 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: to take that crowd out of it early. But what 416 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: I like about Green Bay is I think that this 417 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: defense is much more disciplined than what's Dallas is, and 418 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: that's a credit to Dallas. By the way, Dallas's defense 419 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: might have been the worst of the National Football League 420 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: last year, it was certainly in the running. They added 421 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: some parts. Michael Parsons is going to be a monster 422 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: in this league for years to come. That Dallas defense 423 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: made a huge jump from but they still were young 424 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: and undisciplined. This unit. And when I say on discipline, 425 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about just missing gaps. I'm talking about 426 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: tackling an offensive lineman too the ground in the scenario 427 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: in which you gotta get a staff the penalty and 428 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: smart packers are the least penalized team in the National 429 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: Football League this year. You want to be able to 430 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: continue to play with that veteran head, you know, that mindset, 431 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: and be keeping your head on your shoulders. Uh. That's 432 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: where I think Green Bay can do this thing differently. 433 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: And honestly, Mike, you and I were out there in 434 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: the Bowl. It is cold, and while it will be 435 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: a little bit warmer on Saturday night, they have the 436 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: blowers going right now. They're doing everything they can to 437 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: keep this thing, you know, thought out and temperate. But 438 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: the ground in Green Bay, Wisconsin is still the ground 439 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: in Green Bay, Wisconsin. This is not a T and 440 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: T stadium. The game will be slower than it was 441 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: in Dallas. I think that also lends itself to Green 442 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: Bay's favor. Yeah. Well, and you mentioned it earlier in 443 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: the show too, about how these teams and I actually 444 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: looked it up earlier in this week. Earlier this week, 445 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: both of these teams, not just in Week three when 446 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: they played each other and it came down to the 447 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: last couple of seconds obviously with the Mason Crosby kick. 448 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: Both of these teams throughout the course of the year 449 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: have played numerous down to the wire down to the 450 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: last possession of type of games. Both teams had nine 451 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: of their seventeen games in the regular season decided by 452 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: one score, nine out of seventeen both of them, which 453 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: means eight others aside from when when they played one another. 454 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: Both of the both of these teams, both these teams 455 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: are battle tested in that respect in terms of playing 456 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: sixty minute games, and you just know that this one, 457 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: this one is going to come down to the last 458 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: couple of possessions in the last five or six minutes 459 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: of the fourth quarter, and it's going to be who 460 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: is who is going to be executing at the proper level, 461 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: Because it's not somebody, in my opinion, with either these teams, 462 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: It's not somebody who's going to blink. It's not somebody 463 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: who's going to make a crucial mistake at that moment. 464 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: It's going to be one team execute eating at the 465 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: ultimate high level to pull out a close game down 466 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: the stretch with which both of these teams have been 467 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: tested to do um throughout the course of the season. 468 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: You know who the forty Niners kind of remind me 469 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: of a little bit. I think it's the two thousand 470 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: one Chicago Bears. Actually two thousand one green Bay Packers 471 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: against the Chicago Bears. I think that was the year 472 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: with Dick Gerond and maybe I'll get this wrong with 473 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: Jim Miller. Where the Bears weren't they like thirteen or 474 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: three or something like that. But I think the Packers 475 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: ended up beating them twice, and the Bears has gone 476 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: thirteen and three, but they lost twice to Green Bay. 477 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: That's what the forty Niners kind of remind me of 478 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: because they were the ones that lost, you know, these 479 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: games early on, but still ended up beating the Rams twice. 480 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: During the regular the Rams were the division champ and 481 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: the actually West, but the Niners beat them both times. 482 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: See I know history a little bit. But the reason 483 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: I say that is San Francisco totally belongs to be here. 484 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 1: But you know I have my question is I don't 485 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: know how many games in a row they're going to 486 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: be able to win. And that's why I felt going 487 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: into the playoffs, why you want to have the buyers 488 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: because some of these teams are really talented. I don't 489 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: know if they can win three or four in a row. 490 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: San Francisco may be able to do that. We're gonna 491 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: find out. But Green Bay. You want to create the 492 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: shortest path to victory as possible. The Packers have done that. 493 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: They're gonna get this game at Lambou Field unlike last year. Yes, 494 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: the temperature will be colder. They're gonna have the crowd 495 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: into it again. It's not gonna be a bunch of 496 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, nine thousand people, including my father, banging a 497 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: sign against the bleacher. It's going to be real people, 498 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,239 Speaker 1: real energy, and I think that's gonna bring the best 499 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: out of this Packers team. I can't wait for it. 500 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna be an amazing football game. That is it's 501 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: gonna be. It's gonna be dynamite, no question about it. 502 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: Quickly before we go, just your thoughts on how these 503 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: other games are going to unfold. The other one, obviously, 504 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: in the NFC Los Angeles Rams are at the Tampa 505 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. The winner there will face the winner of 506 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: forty Niners and Packers in the NFC Championship Game. And 507 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: on the a f C side, Cincinnati at Tennessee, Buffalo 508 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: at Kansas City. Any quick thoughts on how those games 509 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: are going to unfold. My quick thought, I've never said this, 510 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: We've done. We've done unscripted for six years now. Can 511 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: you believe that? Go back into two thousand sixteen. Look 512 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: how young we look. My thing is, I've never said 513 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: this on the show. I legitimately hope the Packers win 514 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: on Saturday. And there's a reason for that too, beyond 515 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: all he worked for the team. But the reason I 516 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,479 Speaker 1: say that is I really want to care about these 517 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: Sunday games because it's a great slate of football. I 518 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: was really disappointed by Super Wildcard weekend. I think everybody 519 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: was the one game, the one game that ended up 520 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: mattering the most to the Packers fortunes. Obviously San Francisco 521 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: and Dallas was by far the best game of the weekend. 522 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: As we predicted. We just didn't know that all the 523 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: rest of them were. I should say four of the 524 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: other five we're going to be absolute snoozers. But the 525 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: reason why is because this is the weekend. Man, I 526 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: said this to you three times this week. Here's the fourth. 527 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: This is the first round of the playoffs. To me, 528 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: these are the eight best teams in the National Football League. 529 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: I actually really believe that. I don't think anybody snuck 530 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: through here for to have of Rams playing the Buccaneers. 531 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: I want to see that game. I know it's a rematch. 532 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: I want to see it again. I think the Bills 533 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: in Kansas City. Those teams are going to continue to 534 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: play each other this year, next year, the year after. 535 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: You look at you look at the ages of Patrick 536 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: Mahomes and Josh Allen. They played for the a f 537 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: C Championship last year. They're playing in the a f 538 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: C Divisional Round this year. They these two quarterbacks might 539 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: go against each other a dozen, fourteen times in the playoffs. 540 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: Before this is all said, it's gonna be the Batman 541 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: and the Joker Man. We're destined to do this forever. 542 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: And in Cincinnati or Tennessee. Man, one of those teams 543 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: is going to the f C Championship Game cincin Eddie, 544 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,959 Speaker 1: an a f C Championship game Tennessee, after everything they 545 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: went through this year, going to an a Tennessee, Tennessee, 546 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: getting Derrick Henry back. Now for the playoffs, we talked 547 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: about some of these guys the Packers might get back, 548 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: Tennessee potentially getting Derrick Henry back, and Cincinnati being at 549 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: this stage, at this stage for the first time in 550 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: thirty one years, you were just getting out of diapers 551 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: thirty one years ago. West, Yeah, yeah, I really was. 552 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: That actually is true. But this is that That's why 553 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: I want to care about those games on Sunday. And 554 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now this thing doesn't work on 555 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: for Green Bay. I ain't watching football on Sunday. So 556 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean to be able to see how this uh, 557 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: this whole hand. You know, it's the beautiful mry Aaron 558 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: Rodgers always talks about and we are days away from 559 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: finally figuring out some of these answers. Yeah, absolutely, well 560 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: it should be. It's it's usually the best weekend of 561 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: NFL football of of the entire season, and I think 562 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,239 Speaker 1: that's going it's going to play out that way this 563 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: time around. With that, we'll call it a wrap on 564 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: this edition of Packers on Script and be sure to 565 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: follow all of our coverage of the team and everything 566 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: with Saturday night's game. We'll have it for you on 567 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: Packers dot com. For West, I'm Mike. Thanks for tuning in, everybody. 568 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time.