WEBVTT - Eduardo Rodriguez, Gabriel Moreno Lead D-backs to Gritty Win Over Nationals

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to another episode of Snake's Territory, part

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<v Speaker 1>Friedman alongside Jack Summers and Jack. Tonight's win for the

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<v Speaker 1>Diamondbacks was maybe not quite as emphatic as what we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen the past couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is a win. Nonetheless.

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<v Speaker 1>They win a big game over the Washington Nationals by

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<v Speaker 1>a final score of three to two. Jack Eduardo Rodriguez

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<v Speaker 1>was excellent when it mattered most, Gabrielle Moreno had another

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<v Speaker 1>great game, and the Diamondbacks just keep on rolling.

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<v Speaker 3>Tory Lavello said that this was going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>really gritty road trip, and you know, certainly it was

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<v Speaker 3>a very gritty win tonight. It was not an easy

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<v Speaker 3>win to capture the geaked by they got it, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, this is really a necessary win for them,

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<v Speaker 3>not only for the standings and all of that, but

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<v Speaker 3>also for keeping the momentum going, putting the pressure on

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Hazen, which we'll talk about a little bit, to

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<v Speaker 3>be more aggressive at the trade deadline. So all the

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<v Speaker 3>way around, you know, just an important win. Also, they

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<v Speaker 3>got a tough pitching matchup tomorrow, so you know they

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<v Speaker 3>got to try to win this series for sure, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, put the put the Nationals in the rearview mirror.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'll start with Eduardo Rodriguez and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>breaking this one down. Just typically Rod start right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>six innings, two runs, and what really stood out most,

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<v Speaker 1>as is often the case, is his ability to just

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<v Speaker 1>bear down and make pitches when he really needs to.

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<v Speaker 1>Right off the bat in the bottom of the first inning,

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<v Speaker 1>James Wood hits a single under Shaparro former Diamondback or

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<v Speaker 1>former Diamondbacks farm hand make hits a one out double,

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<v Speaker 1>so you've got second and third, one out.

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<v Speaker 2>CJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Abrams then strikes out on one of the biggest pitches

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<v Speaker 1>that e Rod made the entire game. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>change up down below the zone and an Abrams whift.

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<v Speaker 1>He got Dylan Cruz to fly out to end the

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<v Speaker 1>threat there. And then in the bottom of the sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>a very unfortunate situation on the defensive side of the

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<v Speaker 1>ball to tell Marte and Corbyn Carroll miscommunicate on a

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<v Speaker 1>lazy pop fly it's set up a first and second

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<v Speaker 1>nobody out situation. Jacob Young lays down a bunt, moves

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<v Speaker 1>those guys up to second and third, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at that point it's a two to two game. You

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<v Speaker 1>kind of figure like, all right, here's where the Nationals

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<v Speaker 1>pull out ahead. But once again, Eduardo Rodriguez dials up

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<v Speaker 1>a strikeout when he needs it. He gets Harry Ford

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<v Speaker 1>to strike out there. He did walk Luis Garcia after

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<v Speaker 1>that with first base open, but then he gets the

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<v Speaker 1>seam Nuniaz to ground down to end the threat. I

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<v Speaker 1>texted you earlier, Jack that I think Eduardo Rodriguez's twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six season with runners in scoring position, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it needs to be studied by scientists because this is

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<v Speaker 1>outrageous what we are seeing. He entered today with a

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<v Speaker 1>one forty one opponent batting average with runners in scoring position,

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<v Speaker 1>and that only got lower after this game.

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<v Speaker 3>We often get so caught up in regression to the

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<v Speaker 3>mean and what's expected verus what's not, and we know

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<v Speaker 3>that eventually things do tend to even out. But the

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<v Speaker 3>other aspect of this is sometimes athletes are just in

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<v Speaker 3>the zone. They don't stay in the zone forever. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a very different way to describe what

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<v Speaker 3>we see sometimes as opposed to the regression. To the mean.

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<v Speaker 3>We've all played some sports, We've all watched sports, and

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<v Speaker 3>you see players perform in certain situations where they are

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<v Speaker 3>locked in, they are dialed in. And in this case,

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<v Speaker 3>like for example, you know at Rodriguez executing a tough

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<v Speaker 3>change up, you know to get a damis striking out,

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<v Speaker 3>as Gabrin Marino is just talking about on the on

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<v Speaker 3>the on the post game. That ability to do that,

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<v Speaker 3>to lock in, to focus, to make the pitch, or

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<v Speaker 3>to you know, have the grade at bat. It's it's

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<v Speaker 3>so difficult to quantify and it's something that we can't

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<v Speaker 3>really grasp. But it's like kind of trying to grab

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<v Speaker 3>water with your hands sometimes, but it's real. It happens.

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<v Speaker 3>And Rodriguez has been in the zone when he needs

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<v Speaker 3>to be almost the entire season. It's fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>He generated just so much soft contact in this game

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I mean you look at the big picture numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>there only three of twenty balls put in play by

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<v Speaker 1>Nationals hitters were hard hit. His average exit VELO against

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<v Speaker 1>was seventy seven point two miles per hour. He got

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<v Speaker 1>a decent amount of chase out of his zone thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent chase rate through first pitch strike seventy percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the time. So you know, I guess maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>gripe jack is that e Rod getting off the mound

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<v Speaker 1>to field grounders from time to time.

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<v Speaker 2>Not not always the best.

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<v Speaker 1>If we're nitpicking here, but hey, it's a small price

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<v Speaker 1>to pray, price to pay. He is now nine and

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<v Speaker 1>three with a two point six four era. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you can give him a little grace on that front.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming back from the All Star break prior you know,

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<v Speaker 3>whether you prior to euro Adds last start. Tory Lavello

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<v Speaker 3>was talking about you getting off the mound quickly during

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<v Speaker 3>the All Star Game for a play, and he said

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<v Speaker 3>there was a coach's text thread where they were all

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<v Speaker 3>kind of joking back and forth like, oh, he can

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<v Speaker 3>do it the see get off the round there, but

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<v Speaker 3>today not so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not always, not always a great look. But Irod

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<v Speaker 1>did make the big pitches when he needed to. He

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<v Speaker 1>has carried the Diamondbacks this season. They had to pick

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<v Speaker 1>him up in his last outing that of course was

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<v Speaker 1>not a good one, but he bounces right back against

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best offenses in all of baseball, arguably

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<v Speaker 1>the best offense in all of baseball in the Washington Nationals.

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<v Speaker 1>On the offensive side, there wasn't much to speak of

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<v Speaker 1>for the Diamondbacks in this one. But boy, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you had a big smile on your face.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>In the top of the second inning because the Diamondbacks

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<v Speaker 1>with runners first the second and nobody out, Adrian Delcasto

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<v Speaker 1>lays down a sack bunt, something that you've been talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>like the d Backs need to start doing that more,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with some of these hitters who are not performing well.

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<v Speaker 1>So Adrian delkas stil lays down a flawless sack bunt,

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<v Speaker 1>moves the runners up to second and third with one out,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Tim Twa follows that up with another. This

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<v Speaker 1>want to push bunt up the first baseline. Couldn't laid

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<v Speaker 1>it down any better than he did. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>thing of beauty and it scored Max Kepler from the

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<v Speaker 1>third base Tyler Locklear moved up to third. They had

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<v Speaker 1>no hope of getting Tim Tawa at first base either.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes for an infield single and that not only

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<v Speaker 1>scored a run but led to another Dbax run.

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<v Speaker 2>In the inning to tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Marte followed this up with a fielder's choice ground out

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<v Speaker 1>to drive in another run. Both of those runs, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>enormous for the Diamondbacks and what was ultimately a one

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<v Speaker 1>run game.

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<v Speaker 3>I was very happy to see them expand the player

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<v Speaker 3>pool with which they're willing to use the bunt. For me, obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't want to just be giving away out willy

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<v Speaker 3>nilly in every situation. You can't be too rote about it.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are certain situations, in certain contexts, against certain

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<v Speaker 3>teams where you really do need to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>dive into that part of the strategy, regardless of where

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<v Speaker 3>you are in the lineup. And so what I've been

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<v Speaker 3>advocating for is just expanding the player pool with which

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<v Speaker 3>they're willing to utilize the bunt, and especially obviously down

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<v Speaker 3>to the bottom half of the order, they're really you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's maybe like two or three guys in this lineup

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<v Speaker 3>that I can say, all right, you don't need to

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<v Speaker 3>bunt with those guys and everybody else, everybody else on

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<v Speaker 3>this team. I would want them to have that ability.

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<v Speaker 3>So we joke about the bunt club that they have

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<v Speaker 3>that works out with the Jeff Banister before games, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like to see that player pool that works with

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<v Speaker 3>him on bunting continue to expand. So great stuff today

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<v Speaker 3>from del Castillo in that situation. Look, I'm everybody knows

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<v Speaker 3>I'm an analyst. I'm a saber guy, and you know

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<v Speaker 3>orthodox sabermetrics is never sacrificed bunt. But I'm not that orthodox.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very flexible when it comes to kind of trying

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<v Speaker 3>to balance the the two aspects of this game. You've

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<v Speaker 3>got to be able to play situational baseball. I just

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<v Speaker 3>look at the really good teams like the Brewers and

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<v Speaker 3>the Rays and how they were able to execute that

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<v Speaker 3>up and down the lineup when they need to. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I want to see more from the Diamondbacks

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<v Speaker 3>like we did tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>D BACS pr sent out an interesting note about that inning.

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<v Speaker 1>They said the d Bacs second inning was the first

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<v Speaker 1>time they had a sac bun, a bun hit and

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<v Speaker 1>two plus runs in an inning since July twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty twenty two against the San Francisco Giants. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the sixteenth time in franchise history that the Diamondbacks have

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<v Speaker 1>managed to d back, so kind of a little random there,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, not surprising to hear that twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two was the last time the Dbacs did this. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in twenty twenty two and going into twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, this team had a lot more of

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<v Speaker 1>a small ball identity than they've had in the past

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<v Speaker 1>few years. That second inning in this game was sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a callback to the Diamondbacks small ball days from

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<v Speaker 1>a few years back. The player that we really wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to spend some time highlighting from this game, though, that

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<v Speaker 1>we still haven't gotten to is Gabrielle Moreno. He had

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<v Speaker 1>two hits in this one. I guess technically those hits

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<v Speaker 1>didn't wind up factoring in to the runs that they scored,

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<v Speaker 1>but he did come through in the top of the

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<v Speaker 1>seventh with a big sacrifice fly bases loaded one out.

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<v Speaker 1>At times, it's felt like a difficult situation for the

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<v Speaker 1>d Backs to execute, and he manages to drive a

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<v Speaker 1>middle end sweeper. I guess it was actually a little

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<v Speaker 1>off the corner inside two left field gets it plenty

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<v Speaker 1>up in the air enough in order to score run.

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<v Speaker 1>That run ultimately proved to be the difference in this game,

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<v Speaker 1>and Gabrielle Moreno just deserves his flowers in general here, Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you look at his numbers going back to

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<v Speaker 1>May thirteenth, This is entering today, So it doesn't facts

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<v Speaker 1>are in his two hits from this game. But these

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<v Speaker 1>are crazy numbers over a span of more than two months.

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<v Speaker 1>A three forty seven batting average, four to thirty nine

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<v Speaker 1>on base four ninety two slugs, six home runs, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven RBI. Now it would be twenty eight after this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty two walks, only twenty eight strikeouts. I mean, these

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<v Speaker 1>are insane numbers, Jack. And this isn't the version of

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<v Speaker 1>Gabby Moreno that is only playing, you know, three four

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<v Speaker 1>games a week. This is a version of Gabby Moreno

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<v Speaker 1>where he is playing literally every game, either at catcher

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<v Speaker 1>or at DH.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, and it's an all around game. The

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<v Speaker 3>hitting numbers are amazing, and of course the two to

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<v Speaker 3>four to night probably runs that number that you just

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<v Speaker 3>put up there on the screen up to or over

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<v Speaker 3>three fifty. And you know, you think where he was

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<v Speaker 3>before that. It's just amazing how consistent he's been, the

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<v Speaker 3>quality of the at bats. You know, this is more

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<v Speaker 3>than just a guy on a hot streak. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a guy that has really figured out who he is

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<v Speaker 3>as a hitter and what he has to do to

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<v Speaker 3>be successful, and he's just executing on it night after night.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he made two terrific plays on pop ups.

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<v Speaker 3>He called a fantastic game tonight. Whether we're looking at

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<v Speaker 3>you know, batting numbers, w RC plush, you know, Fangrass War,

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<v Speaker 3>Baseball Reference War, or the average of the two Baseball

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<v Speaker 3>Reference War, I don't think it includes framing, whereas Fangrass

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<v Speaker 3>War does. So Fangrass always favors him a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, Gabriel Marinos, without question, at this point

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<v Speaker 3>in time, the best catcher in the National League, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was before the All Star break. It was very

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<v Speaker 3>much a snub that he was not an All Star.

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<v Speaker 3>I realized he missed some time early and the play

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<v Speaker 3>appearances might not have been there. You do have the

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<v Speaker 3>factor of having to get you know, a player from

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<v Speaker 3>every team on there, and Major League Baseball is limited

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<v Speaker 3>into how they can fill in the gaps. But Gavin

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<v Speaker 3>Marino deserved to be an All Star this year, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he's clearly the best catcher in the National

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<v Speaker 3>League at this time.

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<v Speaker 1>Full stop, You and I were texting back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>about him last night, thinking like, could Gaby Moreno win

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<v Speaker 1>the Silver Slugger in the National League.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like he should.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's also this guy named Hunter Goodman who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to hit like seventy five home runs. Partially because he

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<v Speaker 1>plays in course field. That's a big part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But Hunter Goodman has had a good offensive season overall,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe it's an uphill battle to win the Silver Slugger.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Gabby is very much in the gold Glove conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Luis Torenz looking at some of the numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Torenz maybe has the slightly better defense metrics

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<v Speaker 1>as of right now, but there's no question as far

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<v Speaker 1>as the full package is concerned. Gabriel Moreno is the

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<v Speaker 1>best catcher in the National League right now, and he

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<v Speaker 1>just deserves a ton of credit for being kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the one hitter in this lineup that you can count

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<v Speaker 1>on on a day in, day out basis like catell

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<v Speaker 1>and Corbin and Perdomo, those guys have all had pretty

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<v Speaker 1>big ups and downs over the course of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Moreno didn't start that well. I mean his ops if

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<v Speaker 1>you go back to May thirteenth, His ops on that

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<v Speaker 1>day was five ninety three, which is sort of crazy

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<v Speaker 1>to think about, But ever since then, he's been one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best players in baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's kind of you know, he's only got

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<v Speaker 3>two more years after this of team control. They've never

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<v Speaker 3>been able to work out an extension with him, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know that's it's going to be a sad day

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<v Speaker 3>when he's no longer a diamondback. But if they don't

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<v Speaker 3>pull off an extension here pretty soon, almost immediately, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>even before this season is over, then it's likely that

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<v Speaker 3>they won't be able to. So you know, let's just

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<v Speaker 3>get as much out of him as we can and

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy it. While last folks Gapria Moreno's All Star caliber catcher,

0:14:56.560 --> 0:15:00.960
<v Speaker 3>he's already been a Gold Glove winner. He deserves more

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<v Speaker 3>accolades than he's getting. And we devoted a very full

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<v Speaker 3>segment here on him because we really haven't given him

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<v Speaker 3>enough love. Maybe we've been taking him for granted, just

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<v Speaker 3>like everybody else that will I'm sure many of you

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<v Speaker 3>have not been.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I will just throw in there that Derek Hall

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<v Speaker 1>was asked yesterday, I think, on Arizona Sports ninety eighty

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<v Speaker 1>seven about the possibility of a Gabby extension. He kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gave the answer you'd expect, like, you know, we've

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<v Speaker 1>had conversations about this in the past, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>we will in the future because of you know, how

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<v Speaker 1>big of a part of this team Gabby is. So

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<v Speaker 1>he certainly didn't close the door on it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's likely, but given what he's meant to

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<v Speaker 1>the Diamondbacks the past couple of months, they definitely feel

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<v Speaker 1>like Gabby Moreno is a player you'd love to see

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<v Speaker 1>stick in a Diamondbacks uniform.

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<v Speaker 2>Long term, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a whole lot more to get to in this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a super chat that will touch on We

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<v Speaker 1>also have the standings to look at. Of course, things

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<v Speaker 1>looking pretty promising there for the Diamondbacks today.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>Hazen also had a visit with the Dbacks radio booth

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<v Speaker 1>from this game, so we have some comments from Hazen

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<v Speaker 1>about the trade deadline that we're going to dive into

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So don't go anywhere, We'll be back right

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<v Speaker 2>We are back here on Snake's territory.

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<v Speaker 1>Really appreciate all of you being here with us live

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<v Speaker 1>in the chat. We see all of your comments coming

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<v Speaker 1>through We are very thankful that you are here with us.

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<v Speaker 1>We did get a super chat from the argyra speedis

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<v Speaker 1>over on over here from our YouTube chat and they say,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you guys for being such an incredible show, such

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<v Speaker 1>a great resource. Well, we very much appreciate that. Just curious,

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<v Speaker 1>do we have any update on Mana? Haven't had an

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<v Speaker 1>update recently. I feel like it's been a while since

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<v Speaker 1>we've heard anything there, Jack, I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>have any anything to report on that front.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, actually, he had a season ending shoulder surgery in June,

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<v Speaker 3>so Christian Mena will not be pitching for the Diamondbacks

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, Yes, we do have an update there, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately he will not be a factor for this team

0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:20.359
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty six, and I mean entering the season,

0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.199
<v Speaker 1>he definitely looked like he was a significant part of

0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.399
<v Speaker 1>their starting pitching depth, so a bummer to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully he's able to get back here before too long.

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<v Speaker 1>We did want to shout out our good friend Azy

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<v Speaker 1>Nailgal five to zero from Azy Snake Pit, all of

0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:39.760
<v Speaker 1>our friends over there. She points out that our run

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<v Speaker 1>differential is plus two now and this is a great point.

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<v Speaker 1>Diamondbacks have been floundering with a negative run differential here

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. They got that number up to plus

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<v Speaker 1>one yesterday with their win over Saint Louis and now

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<v Speaker 1>plus two with their one run win over the Washington

0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.159
<v Speaker 1>Nationals here in this one, and that brings us to

0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:05.800
<v Speaker 1>the standings Jack. Things are looking pretty good here for

0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:09.959
<v Speaker 1>the Diamondbacks, at least compared to what they've looked like

0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:14.919
<v Speaker 1>for the last month or so. The Diamondbacks at fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five and forty nine, they are in that third wild

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<v Speaker 1>card spot. They now have a two game cushion on

0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.119
<v Speaker 1>the Saint Louis Cardinals and the Pittsburgh Pirates. Both of

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<v Speaker 1>those teams are tied currently, and then you've got the

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<v Speaker 1>Miami Marlins two and a half back, the Nationals now

0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:33.360
<v Speaker 1>three games back after this game, and then the San

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<v Speaker 1>Diego Padres at four and a half games back. The

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<v Speaker 1>other thing that stands out, of course, is the d

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<v Speaker 1>Backs are just one game behind the Philadelphia Phillies. The

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<v Speaker 1>Phillies lost the New York Yankees earlier tonight, and hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the d Backs are only three and a

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<v Speaker 1>half behind the.

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<v Speaker 2>Cubs as well. For the top overall wild card spot.

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<v Speaker 1>So things are looking pretty good Jack, from a standing

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<v Speaker 1>standpoint right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's exciting. I mean, this is not exactly what

0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:05.439
<v Speaker 3>we were expecting. I mean, you know, this kind of

0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.399
<v Speaker 3>stretch where they win so many games in such a

0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:12.679
<v Speaker 3>short period of time was not exactly what everyone was expecting. Certainly,

0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:15.399
<v Speaker 3>the way they were playing more than you know, just

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<v Speaker 3>before the Dodgers sweep is not something that anyone could

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<v Speaker 3>have predicted. But that's why they play the games, right.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't predict baseball. Now, their playoff odds are skyrocketing,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, not only what you see in the standings.

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<v Speaker 3>They're up to forty seven percent now with fangrafts, like

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<v Speaker 3>you said, and so I just think that they're in

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<v Speaker 3>the driver's seat now for what they want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like the biggest threat to them is still

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<v Speaker 3>the Pittsburgh Pirates. I've kind of felt that way for

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<v Speaker 3>a while. I think that they have a pretty good offense,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think that their offense is pretty sustainable. Well,

0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:54.640
<v Speaker 3>the expected metrics put them in the top five of baseball,

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<v Speaker 3>so you know, even though that they probably outperformed those

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<v Speaker 3>expected a bit, the fact is is they have a

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<v Speaker 3>good offense, they have a good pitching staff. They're in

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<v Speaker 3>the top half of the league, maybe twelfth to thirteenth,

0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:10.080
<v Speaker 3>and certainly there's potential for that pitching staff to be

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<v Speaker 3>a lot better. The biggest thing probably going to hold

0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:16.719
<v Speaker 3>the Pirates back as their ownership. Recently there was a

0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:21.440
<v Speaker 3>report that they would like to add but they can't

0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:23.240
<v Speaker 3>add payroll. Well, I don't know how you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>do that because the only one they're paying any money

0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:29.480
<v Speaker 3>to is Marcelo Zuna, and nobody's going to take his contract.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know how the Pirates are going to

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<v Speaker 3>add to their team, and they probably could use some

0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:38.040
<v Speaker 3>bullpen help. It's probably the weakness of their team, but

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<v Speaker 3>that's the biggest threat to the Dbacks in my view.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's fair. I mean, just throwing up

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<v Speaker 1>the standings one more time. I mean, the Marlins definitely

0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:52.560
<v Speaker 1>felt like a good team. I mean, we've talked in

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<v Speaker 1>the past about if you look at some of the

0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:59.080
<v Speaker 1>underlying stuff with the way they've performed this year, they

0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:01.159
<v Speaker 1>actually grade out of been quite a bit better than

0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:03.800
<v Speaker 1>their record, and yet here they are having lost nine

0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:06.120
<v Speaker 1>games in a row, and then the Padres.

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<v Speaker 2>Things look scary there. A few days ago, it felt like.

0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:13.439
<v Speaker 1>Machado and Fernando Tatis and Jackson Merrill were all starting

0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:15.960
<v Speaker 1>to hit. And then they lost back to back games

0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:19.560
<v Speaker 1>against the Atlanta Braves, and now they're actually playing the

0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Miami Marlins. So we'll see what what that series looks

0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:25.280
<v Speaker 1>like the next couple of days. And I think all

0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:28.919
<v Speaker 1>of this leads us to a place where, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is this Diamondbacks team flawed? Like, yeah, I think I

0:22:35.760 --> 0:22:38.520
<v Speaker 1>think I feel pretty comfortable saying that. I think this

0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Diamondbacks team is, you know, given the offensive struggles they've

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<v Speaker 1>had this season, the fact that this starting rotation is

0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:48.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of a patchwork job at this point. Bullpen has

0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:50.239
<v Speaker 1>been great and has made up for some of that.

0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:54.720
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's It's not a great Diamondbacks roster on paper.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be lying if I said I thought that. But

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<v Speaker 1>you look at some of these other teams that they're

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<v Speaker 1>competing with, and it's like, well, they don't necessarily have

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<v Speaker 1>to be great. They just have to be better than

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<v Speaker 1>the Marlins and the Pirates and the Cardinals and the

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Nationals and the Padres. And the more we see of

0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>those teams, the more it's like yeah, they actually might be.

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<v Speaker 1>And at this point, when we think about the buy

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:20.160
<v Speaker 1>verse cell conversation, Jack, I don't really know if there's

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there's much of a conversation to

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<v Speaker 1>have in terms of buy verse Cell. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>more of just like what does buying look like at

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<v Speaker 1>this point?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, as we you know, in a few minutes,

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<v Speaker 3>when we go and dive into the specifics of Mike,

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<v Speaker 3>what Mike's had to say, you know, we'll just go

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<v Speaker 3>right to the horse's mouth on that. I think it's

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:43.520
<v Speaker 3>fairly clear what his intentions are. But if you're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about the roster in general, the one thing that's really

0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 3>been standing out to me is how many rookies the

0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.199
<v Speaker 3>team has deployed this year. It's quite alive. It's not

0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 3>the most in baseball actually, but as of a couple

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:03.640
<v Speaker 3>of days ago, they had utilized fourteen players between position

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:09.719
<v Speaker 3>players and pitchers that were still had rookie eligibility not

0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 3>necessarily made their major league debut. If it's somebody that

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:16.760
<v Speaker 3>played last year but still had eligibility for rookie status

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:20.280
<v Speaker 3>this year is included in that. And so that's a

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:22.800
<v Speaker 3>pretty good number to have, right like, you know, because

0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:26.000
<v Speaker 3>these guys keep coming back to the majors and being

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit better than they were the first time around.

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<v Speaker 3>They're improving. The other point that I thought was really cool,

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<v Speaker 3>I was looking at playoff and World Series winners and

0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:39.520
<v Speaker 3>the World Series winner that utilized and this is going

0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:43.359
<v Speaker 3>to shock everybody, they utilized the most players with rookie

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:46.920
<v Speaker 3>eligibility was the two thousand and one Arizona Diamondbacks. They

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<v Speaker 3>had seventeen. Okay, so how about that. Yeah, the Arizona

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<v Speaker 3>Diamondbacks utilized seventeen players in two thousand and one that

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<v Speaker 3>had rookie eligibility. So I guess the point here is

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<v Speaker 3>it's not that the rookie are you know, one, two

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<v Speaker 3>and three in the Rookie of the Year balloting. It's

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<v Speaker 3>that everyone's got a contribution to make and you just

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<v Speaker 3>need to have, you know, take turns having positive moments

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<v Speaker 3>and playing heads up baseball and playing good defense, take

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<v Speaker 3>turns having your big hits. And that's what we're seeing.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they're getting contributions on kind of a rotational

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<v Speaker 3>basis from their young players and that's been great to see.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that that's really helping to fill some

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<v Speaker 3>of the gaps that the roster has had.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a great point.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of these guys, and the dbacs are,

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<v Speaker 1>for better or worse, having to count on quite a

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<v Speaker 1>few of them right now. And as they get a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit healthier, hopefully in the second half of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe as they make some trades, maybe you're able

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of lessen the load on some of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys and you know, let them come into their own

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<v Speaker 1>and the big leagues in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>More of a natural way.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a whole lot more to get to on

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<v Speaker 1>the trade deadline front. Mentioned it earlier, Mike Hazen made

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<v Speaker 1>some comments about what the dbacs are going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to go ahead and take our last break.

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<v Speaker 1>Drop that in here real quick. And on the other side,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to dive a little bit more into this

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<v Speaker 1>trade deadline conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, before we jump back in here to some trade

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<v Speaker 2>Very much appreciate all of you doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>This one is from at Christopher Adn seven five zero

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<v Speaker 1>here on YouTube says let's keep the good times rolling

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<v Speaker 1>ghost Snakes.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Christopher.

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<v Speaker 1>We very much appreciate the positive vibes and the super

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<v Speaker 1>chat from you. We also have one here from a

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<v Speaker 1>longtime friend of the show, Jordan Brimley seven eight three nine,

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 1>who says every team should have a duo represent them

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<v Speaker 1>like you too. Love you guys and appreciate your perspectives

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<v Speaker 1>and knowledge. We appreciate you back, Jordan, and Jordan says,

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<v Speaker 1>give me two realistic trade targets. All right, Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>and I have been kind of working on this behind

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:39.479
<v Speaker 1>the scenes. Here recently, Jack, So we have we have

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 1>a list that is much longer than two So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who we who we want to pick here, Jack,

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess Nathaniel low is the name we've mentioned a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of times already.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we're going to your Don Alvarez and Turik school now,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just kidding. There we go, There we go, dreamings free.

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<v Speaker 3>We have talked about Nathaniel low before here on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, he's under two million dollars this year

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 3>in payroll. The Cincinnati Reds are definitely sellers. He's not

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 3>a high impact guy, but he's solidly above average almost

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 3>every year, as he is this year. He could be

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<v Speaker 3>a left handed DH, and you're you know, we have

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 3>the unfortunate situation to contemplate that eventually. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be without Max Kepler if they go to

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<v Speaker 3>the postseason, so they're going to need another left handed bat.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't use low in the outfield, but you know,

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 3>do you want to go into the postseason with Adrian

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 3>del Castillo as your lefty DH or would you rather

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 3>have a little bit more professional, long term, established guy

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<v Speaker 3>that's above average in Nathaniel Lowe I'd probably like to

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 3>see that happen. And he's you know, his price tag

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a little bit high for what he brings on

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<v Speaker 3>a rental deal, because there just aren't that many out there.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not enough guys out there to do this. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think that he's definitely a realistic option.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would. I would totally agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess to throw another name out there, I'm gonna

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go actually a name that we were texting

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<v Speaker 1>about earlier, Shane Bieber of the Toronto Blue Jays. Of course,

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 1>we saw a lot of Shane Bieber during the Blue

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Jays playoff run a season ago. Certainly he has postseason experience.

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Formerly one of the best pitchers in all of baseball.

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Not quite that guy anymore, but he's looked really good lately.

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<v Speaker 1>You pointed out to me his most recent outing was

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<v Speaker 1>seven innings of one run ball that against the Tampa

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Bay Rays. Before that, it was six scoreless innings against

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>the Chicago White Sox. So, you know, he's only made

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 1>six starts this year, four to seven, zero eer a.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's the type of picture that you really like

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<v Speaker 1>if he can get hot, and he is a rental

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 1>and I think the Blue Jays are gonna to sell

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>question mark.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean you never know with the American League,

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 3>like any team over there goes on a four game

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 3>winning streak is right back in it. Yeah, so it's

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 3>a little tough, you know. And then that's just a

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 3>key factor to to think about. I think at this

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 3>point is probably a pretty good segue into Mike's comments

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 3>on the radio broadcast. By the way, if you listen

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 3>to Dback's TV, if you stream, you know that that

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 3>does have the option to listen to multiple broadcasts. You

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 3>can listen to the television or the radio broadcast. Happen

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 3>to be listening to Mike Ferrin and Josh Colementer tonight,

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<v Speaker 3>and they had Mike Hazen on for an inning and

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 3>a half, almost two full innings I think it was,

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 3>And he had some really interesting comments to make and

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 3>you want to roll.

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<v Speaker 2>Through, so yeah, go for it, get us started.

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 3>What do you got? All right? So I made notes

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 3>of what he was talking about, and I think the

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 3>first thing to point out, like a lot of people

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 3>are saying, you know, you got to make a trade now,

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 3>why not getting get it moving now? Even he talked

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 3>he joked about her Aldo Pidomo, you know, pushing him

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 3>to make moves now, go get pitching now. But you

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 3>have to have, as Mike point out, you have to

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 3>have a willing participant. And he had a whole discussion like,

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:24.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, where he wants to make a trade or

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, Amiel saw Day saying, well you can't. You

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 3>got to wait until other teams are ready. It's still

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 3>a little early in the process. And Mike said, but yeah,

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 3>but we got J. D. Martinez early, so they they

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 3>have the same thoughts and experiences and emotions that we

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 3>all do when it comes to timing on the trade deadline.

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Everybody would love to see something happen earlier, but it's

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 3>not easy to do. If it was, it would happen.

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 3>You need a willing participant.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that that runs counter to what a

0:32:56.680 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are maybe thinking right now, like don't

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 1>they just try to jump the market a little bit

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 1>and make something happen. But yeah, it's not necessarily that easy.

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I also thought it was funny Hazen talked about a

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 1>conversation he had with Heraldo Perdomo today and how Heraldo

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Perdomo is also pushing him to get pitching now. The

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>Perdomo apparently was really trying to make a case for that,

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 1>and Hazen acknowledged like he sees where Perdomo's coming from.

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>The Diamondbacks are playing some really important games right now

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 1>against teams that they are in direct competition with, right

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>the Nationals, and then you've got the Pittsburgh Pirates coming

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>up as well. Hazen also noted that the schedule in

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 1>August is difficult and so yeah, in a way, you

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:46.239
<v Speaker 1>want pitching as soon as you can possibly get it,

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it's not necessarily that easy. Hazen also talked

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 1>about how he doesn't know who the buyers and sellers are,

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 1>and I think we're still at the point around the

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>league right now where you can pinpoint about six teams

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 1>that you feel are our seller pretty confidently, and the

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 1>rest is just a total wild card right now. And

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it's set up a situation where jumping the

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>market for at least anyone noteworthy just isn't really going

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 1>to be possible, or if you do, you're going to

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:15.920
<v Speaker 1>be paying a hefty, hefty price in order to make

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 1>it happen.

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 3>Right, I mean that's part of the dance here, sure,

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:21.800
<v Speaker 3>Like if you're willing to empty out the top five

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 3>of your prospect list, you could probably make, you know,

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 3>and peel off a player or two off you major

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 3>league roster that you know, you feel like is a

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:33.439
<v Speaker 3>risk but worth it, sure. I mean it's never impossible

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 3>to make a deal, but you would just have to

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 3>overwhelm the other team so heftily with something that would

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 3>be frankly a gross overpay and would not be you know, responsible.

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 3>A couple other points that he made, it sounded the

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 3>way he was talking like his goal right now has

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 3>shifted a little bit from getting the middle of the

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 3>order bat to more pitching. I mean, that's certainly with

0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 3>all the injuries. He talked a lot about how the

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 3>injury situation has kind of put a lot of their

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 3>plans and flux, you know, best laid plans. They drew

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 3>up a plan, this is what they were expecting to do,

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 3>and then some of the setbacks with players originally scheduled

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 3>to return from injury like Corbyn Burns and aj Puck

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 3>and lordus Guriel, and then on top of that the

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 3>new injuries to Ryan Nelson, Michael Soroka, and Zach Gallon.

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 3>All of that's really kind of thrown a monkey wrench

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 3>into what their planning was, and they're kind of readjusting

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 3>all this on the fly and trying to figure out

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:34.359
<v Speaker 3>the best moves to make. I think the other thing

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 3>that the other part of the discussion, which is really

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 3>quite relevant, is you know, they don't have much in

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 3>the way of expiring contracts to move. I mean, you

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 3>could say Zach Gallon or lordus Guriel Junior, but nobody's

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 3>going to take them. And they're both on the injured list,

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:51.359
<v Speaker 3>they're both having terrible seasons, and they're both being paid

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:53.879
<v Speaker 3>a lot of money, so there is no trade value there.

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:56.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you did move them either of them

0:35:56.920 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 3>before the trade deadline, you're basically just looking hoping that

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 3>you can save one or two million dollars on salary

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 3>for each of them. And that's about it, which is

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 3>not something to completely disregard. The dbacks are a little

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 3>bit closer to the luxury tax threshold than they've ever been.

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 3>They probably only have twelve to maximum seventeen million dollars

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:21.359
<v Speaker 3>before they go over that threshold. And then the last

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 3>thing I'll say is that, you know, Mike talked about

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 3>the possibility of maybe doing challenge trades where you trade

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 3>one prospect for the other, kind of like the Zach

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 3>Gallon Jazz Chisholm trade, where you know, you trade a

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 3>hitter for a pitcher, a pitcher for a hitter. That's

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:38.839
<v Speaker 3>what they call a challenge trade. The other is, you know,

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 3>focusing on getting controllable players, which is something that is

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:45.279
<v Speaker 3>always in his playbook. And a controllable player can be

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:48.320
<v Speaker 3>somebody that's helping you now and helping you down the road.

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 3>And then finally what he said was if just dead

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:55.919
<v Speaker 3>buying i e. Rentals, Okay, so if you're just going

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 3>after a rental, then that's a discussion that they need

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 3>to have with ownership, you know, because certainly that's going

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:05.319
<v Speaker 3>to be a money issue as well. And he ended

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 3>it by saying, if they keep playing like they are,

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 3>then the guys down there deserve it. So, you know,

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 3>if they if the guys down there keep winning games

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 3>like this, then they did the team and the coaches

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 3>and Tory deserve it. For Mike to go out and get,

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:22.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, is whatever he can the best that he can.

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 1>And that's where Trek Scoogle enters the conversation. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 1>of course, right, one thing I will add on the

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 1>luxury tax conversation. I think it's worth noting that the

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>penalty if the Diamondbacks were to go into that range

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:46.799
<v Speaker 1>is not actually all that significant. You just pay, my understanding,

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 1>at least I believe you just paid twenty percent on

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 1>the overage. So if you go five million dollars over

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the luxury tax, you would pay one million dollars extra

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:00.879
<v Speaker 1>as a fee for that. Which it's like, if you're

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:03.439
<v Speaker 1>already going five million over, is it really that big

0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 1>of a deal from a Ken Kendrick standpoint to be

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:07.240
<v Speaker 1>at six million?

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 2>The d Backs wouldn't.

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 1>There would be no like draft pick ramifications for that

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:14.239
<v Speaker 1>or anything. So I just want to throw that out there.

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:16.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying the Dbacks are going to do that.

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 1>I still think it's totally possible that Ken Kendrick is

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 1>is maybe going to treat that as sort of a

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 1>max like where we're just not comfortable going in that range.

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:29.800
<v Speaker 1>But it's not as if like going into that range

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 1>would have like dangerous ramifications for the franchise or anything.

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.919
<v Speaker 1>It would be quite literally just a little bit more

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 1>money than what.

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 2>You're already what you're already paying, not.

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent. There's other ramifications that could come up, actually,

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, and you could factor in. You have to

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 3>factor in other things like revenue sharing and what you're

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 3>you you receive, right, because they're interesting there they receive

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 3>revenue sharing. But if you go over the luxury text

0:38:58.000 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 3>and you're not getting that revenue sharing.

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's that's a good point. I'm I mean,

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 1>you still wouldn't think right that being like a few

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 1>million below it versus a few million above it is

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:10.720
<v Speaker 1>suddenly going to cost you, like, you know, fifty million

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:13.440
<v Speaker 1>dollars or something like that in revenue sharing. But that

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:16.000
<v Speaker 1>is a that is a ripple there that I hadn't

0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't considered.

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 3>And also I think also like in cases where you're

0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:28.880
<v Speaker 3>dealing with the qualifying offer, what what the penalties are

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 3>also factors in if your luxury taxpayer or not. So

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't know all those details exactly, but it's not

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 3>just the specific the penalties alone that are the consideration there,

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 3>I guess it.

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:45.719
<v Speaker 1>To get that exactly right, Yeah, yeah, no, that's a

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:49.240
<v Speaker 1>that's a good call. I guess all that to say,

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:53.400
<v Speaker 1>like how how much the dbacs push the chips in

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:56.799
<v Speaker 1>is once again going to depend a lot on what

0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:00.120
<v Speaker 1>Ken Kendrick is willing to do. We already know the

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:04.400
<v Speaker 1>d Backs are running a franchise record payroll at this point,

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 1>right So it's not as if the d Backs are

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 1>one of these teams that's not been willing to spend money.

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 2>They absolutely have.

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:13.879
<v Speaker 1>And we've seen Ken be quite aggressive over the past

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>few years when he's felt the d Backs had a chance.

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:20.400
<v Speaker 1>And so maybe with this twenty twenty six roster and

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 1>them being back in the playoff picture as of right now,

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe that does cause Ken to be more aggressive and

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:31.319
<v Speaker 1>to green light Yeah, not just like try to get

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:35.240
<v Speaker 1>some good, controllable pictures or whatnot, but yeah, let's swing.

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Big on a player.

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Maybe not Trek Scuoble because the prospect capital would be enormous.

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think the d Bacs have what the Tigers

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 1>would want. But you know, maybe that does green light

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the d Backs going out there and getting a rental

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 1>who makes a decent amount of money the rest of

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the season.

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:55.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, you know, I mean Ken has always been

0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:58.400
<v Speaker 3>as aggressive as he possibly can win in a position

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:01.760
<v Speaker 3>to do so, he said, you know, franchise payroll records

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 3>three years in a row. Now, you know, maybe he's

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:10.319
<v Speaker 3>hearing footsteps, but I think everybody in the organization's hearing footsteps.

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 3>They all know that the fan base is restless and

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:17.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, a little tired of not making the playoffs

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 3>more than once every five six years. So, you know,

0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:22.839
<v Speaker 3>I think getting back to the postseason this year and

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 3>being good enough to do some damage when you get there,

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, is gonna definitely take some reinforcement. You never know,

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 3>of course, like you know, are you going to get

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 3>a J. D. Martinez situation or are you going to

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 3>get a situation where you're bringing a guy and he

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:39.960
<v Speaker 3>doesn't do anything. That happens all the time, you know,

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 3>where teams swing big at the trade deadline and it

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 3>just doesn't work out. The players they bring in don't

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 3>have the seasons that they would hope for. I mean,

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 3>quite frankly, last year the Texas Rangers probably didn't get

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 3>what they were looking for at of Merrill.

0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Kelly, Yeah, yeah, that is very true. Let's see, looking

0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 1>at the chat here, I am the Larry just said.

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's an accident. The team is playing

0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 1>well now that Lordis and Gallon are on the IL

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 1>and Peven was the fate edition by subtraction has been

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 1>massive for the team. Yeah, I guess, I guess. I mean,

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:19.440
<v Speaker 1>there's definitely a correlation there. I guess it's hard to

0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 1>say if it's a causation, but I mean maybe it is.

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I think we could say pretty clearly that like Tyler,

0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Locklear has given the Diamondbacks a whole lot out of

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 1>first base than Peven Smith had been able to do.

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:37.240
<v Speaker 3>Well. I did some work, and you know, I measured

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:43.200
<v Speaker 3>who was hurting the team the most, right, compared to

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:46.040
<v Speaker 3>what you were expecting to get and compared to what

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 3>you were getting, and the players that were hurting the

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:53.279
<v Speaker 3>team the most were Lordis and Peven on offense, and

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 3>clearly Zach on the mound. Yeah, you know, I mean,

0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 3>and I'm actually look at this with a great deal

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:03.440
<v Speaker 3>of trepidation because I think Lordis is pretty close to

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 3>coming back, and I think they've got a good thing going,

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 3>and if all of a sudden they toss him back

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 3>into the you know, middle, middle bottom part of the

0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 3>order and we get more of just you know, him

0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 3>flailing the balls that he should not be swinging at

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 3>and failing to hit the ball with any authority because

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't have his legs under him, Like, then, how

0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 3>much more of that do we need to watch before

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:27.360
<v Speaker 3>they make a decision? And I know they're in a

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:30.560
<v Speaker 3>tough spot. Look, Lortis is a good teammate. He's been

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 3>a good diamondback. He's played through a lot of aches

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:36.360
<v Speaker 3>and pains and injuries. There's been a lot of times

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 3>I saw Lordus Gurriel Junior hobbling around the locker room

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 3>with you know, ice packs all over his legs and

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:48.319
<v Speaker 3>arms and all up and down his body. You know,

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 3>he's a good guy, and he's a good teammate, and

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.320
<v Speaker 3>he's really tried very hard to be the best player

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 3>and best diamondback he can. So, you know, I don't

0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:59.479
<v Speaker 3>want anything I'm saying that, you know, fuel hatred toward

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 3>the guy. But the fact is is that that knee

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 3>injury and then subsequent hamstring and leg injuries have taken

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:09.640
<v Speaker 3>the bottom out of him. He's literally had his legs

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:11.959
<v Speaker 3>cut out from under him, and he's no longer able

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 3>to drive the ball. And I don't see him suddenly

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 3>getting that back this season.

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:22.280
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned earlier we talked about how Mike Hazen seems

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:25.799
<v Speaker 1>to be pivoting a little bit, chasing after pitching a

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:28.840
<v Speaker 1>little bit more than the thump in the middle of

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 1>the lineup. It seemed like that was the main focus.

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious what you think of that. Like, I mean,

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I think we'd be lying if we said we didn't

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:39.920
<v Speaker 1>think the Diamondbacks still kind of needs some thump in

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the lineup. They still kind of need,

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:44.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, that Nathaniel Low type player that we were

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 1>talking about earlier. And I guess it feels like kind

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 1>of a both and if anything, like the DBAC still

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 1>should have that as a priority, even though the pitching

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 1>side is maybe more in need than we thought it

0:44:57.600 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 1>was going to be.

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:01.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I mean, obviously he's probably still going

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:03.920
<v Speaker 3>to be looking for opportunity upgrade no matter where it

0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:06.399
<v Speaker 3>comes from, and that the opportunity comes up to get

0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 3>a good hitter at a fair price, he's going to

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:12.960
<v Speaker 3>do it. I'm not saying that he's giving up on

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 3>the idea of adding to the lineup. I don't think

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:19.400
<v Speaker 3>that's what he was saying. But clearly, with all the

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 3>injuries that they've had, they have to bolster this pitching staff.

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:26.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, there was a report that came out today

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:30.919
<v Speaker 3>Tory actually talking about first on Serious XM, about how

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Corburn Burns could be back before the end of August

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:36.840
<v Speaker 3>and early September the latest. And then you know, he

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 3>walked it back when he went on the Arizona Sports

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:42.280
<v Speaker 3>ninety eight point seven with Dave Burns at two thirty

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 3>and he kind of made that sound more like, well,

0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:48.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, Burns is hopeful and pushing it to get

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:51.400
<v Speaker 3>back by early September, and you know Tory is hopeful

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 3>for that, but it's still going to be up to

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 3>the medical staff. And you know, I mean again, I'm

0:45:57.200 --> 0:45:59.719
<v Speaker 3>not counting on anything from Corbyn Burns the rest of

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:03.720
<v Speaker 3>this If they get it, it's an absolute extra bonus.

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:07.239
<v Speaker 3>Mike Hasn has to operate the same way. I'm not

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:09.640
<v Speaker 3>counting on getting anything good out of Zach Gallon the

0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:13.040
<v Speaker 3>rest of the season. He might, but you know, I'm

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:15.400
<v Speaker 3>not counting on it. Mike Hasn has to operate the

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:19.160
<v Speaker 3>same way. I'm not counting on getting anything good out

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 3>of Ryan Nelson the rest of this season. They might

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:25.320
<v Speaker 3>maybe they bring him back as a reliever. Mike Hasn

0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 3>has to operate the same way.

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:31.440
<v Speaker 1>It is difficult to be in a situation where there is,

0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:35.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, this this degree of players that theoretically could

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 1>come back and impact the team, right. I mean, some

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:40.600
<v Speaker 1>of these guys aren't that far away. Like Soroka could

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:42.480
<v Speaker 1>be back here in the next couple of weeks, Jordan

0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Lawler could be back in the next couple weeks. Justin

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Martinez in that group as well. I mean that's one

0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 1>theoretically very good reliever, a pretty good starting pitcher, and

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 1>an outfielder who really looked great when he was healthy

0:46:57.520 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 1>in Jordan Lawler. That is a lot of impact you

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 1>could get, not in mid September, but in like the

0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 1>next couple of weeks. And yet you also have to

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 1>balance those factors that you're saying of like, Okay, maybe

0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 1>even with those guys, we have to temper our expectations

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 1>of what they're actually going to give when they return

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 1>to the big lea groster. And I guess that leaves

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:21.759
<v Speaker 1>me with this thought of, like what is the ideal

0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 1>but still somewhat realistic outcome of the trade deadline just

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:29.200
<v Speaker 1>from a positional standpoint, not getting to names at this point,

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 1>but it seems like landing a starting pitcher would be

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 1>a good thing. Yes, Sorocu's coming back. But you've got

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:38.359
<v Speaker 1>both Mitch Bratt and Cold Drake in the rotation right now,

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and all of the other starters are pretty far away,

0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:45.040
<v Speaker 1>So getting a starting pitcher seems like, yes, that is

0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of in the need category at this point, or

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 1>at least something you very much would like to get

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:52.560
<v Speaker 1>if you can. Adding to the bullpen is just kind

0:47:52.600 --> 0:47:54.520
<v Speaker 1>of always a thing that you probably want to do

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:57.480
<v Speaker 1>as a contender. So I think we can throw that

0:47:57.520 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 1>in there pretty safely, something that maybe wouldn't cost them

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:02.640
<v Speaker 1>that much. And then if they were to get a

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Nathaniel Low type for the offense, I mean, would that

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:08.879
<v Speaker 1>be kind of a slam dunk trade deadline? And your mind, Jack,

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 1>if the d Backs can acquire three players, just one

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 1>guy that fits in each of those categories.

0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, if they brought in Low or an

0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 3>equivalent hitter from the left side, if they brought in

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:26.880
<v Speaker 3>a starting pitcher that has got a track record of

0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:31.120
<v Speaker 3>being decent or good, you know, obviously redebtmers might be

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<v Speaker 3>the dream here. I don't know if that's achievable, but

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<v Speaker 3>if they're able to bring in a starting pitcher, preferably

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<v Speaker 3>a controllable one, because I think they're going to need

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<v Speaker 3>to think ahead to next year. So if they're looking

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<v Speaker 3>for that controllable player, I think it's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>on the pitching side much more so than on the

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<v Speaker 3>hitting side. I think they're much more likely to go

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<v Speaker 3>more aggressive for a rental. On the hitting side. They

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<v Speaker 3>could be pretty aggressive with the relief pitcher there too.

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<v Speaker 3>But yes, you get one good, really one above average

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<v Speaker 3>hitter and one above average starting pitcher. I mean, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a that's a home run, whether he whether it

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<v Speaker 3>pays off or not. You can't ask for any more,

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<v Speaker 3>regardless of the result, you know. But to do that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you just hope that they don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>completely strip mine their their upper half of their their

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<v Speaker 3>prospect ranking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's probably fair. Carbon Barrows mentions Emerson Hancock's name.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, anytime we see a Mariner's pitcher thrown out there,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, well, Diamondbacks Mariners, here we go again.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know what that would look like, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't think the Mariners are taking Lordus

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<v Speaker 1>Gurriel Junior for Emerson Hancock. So so we'll see we

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<v Speaker 1>are just what is this ten days away from the

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<v Speaker 1>trade deadline if I'm doing my math right, August third,

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<v Speaker 1>so a week from a week from Monday. And DBAC

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<v Speaker 1>still of course need to go out and keep on winning.

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<v Speaker 1>And they have two more big games against this Washington

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<v Speaker 1>Nationals team before they head on over to Pittsburgh's to

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<v Speaker 1>play the Pittsburgh Pirates. Those games, of course also very

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<v Speaker 1>very important. And yeah, I mean the more that they

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<v Speaker 1>can win these games and continue to play this way,

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<v Speaker 1>the more pressure they're going to put on my Cason

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<v Speaker 1>to go out and be aggressive.

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<v Speaker 3>Nine days, nineteen hours, twenty nine minutes and thirty five seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go. Now we know trade deadline is not

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<v Speaker 2>all that far away.

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<v Speaker 3>I have that pinned up the top of my profile

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<v Speaker 3>on Twitter. It's the countdown clock for the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. That's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we, of course we'll be talking a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>more about the trade deadline in the next nine hour

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<v Speaker 1>or nine days, nineteen hours and however many minutes and seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack just said, and we appreciate all of you for

0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:04.480
<v Speaker 1>being here with us. As always, you can find us

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<v Speaker 1>on social media. I am at Jesse and Friedman. Jack

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<v Speaker 1>is at Shu Wizard fifty nine and our show is

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<v Speaker 1>at Snake's Territory on Twitter, and of course you can

0:51:14.320 --> 0:51:18.000
<v Speaker 1>find Jack's written work over at Arizona Diamondbacks on SI.

0:51:18.080 --> 0:51:21.080
<v Speaker 1>A lot of great stuff over there from him, alongside

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Dagostino, our good friend as well Jack. Any final

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts here as we as we say goodbye and head

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<v Speaker 1>into the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Just to clarify, for I am Larry So I stream

0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:39.120
<v Speaker 3>via the Dbacks TV and MLB TV app on my

0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 3>Apple TV and that has the option to select the

0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:48.240
<v Speaker 3>different broadcast, whether it's the audio from the TV broadcast

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:50.799
<v Speaker 3>or the audio from the radio. At the same time,

0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:54.160
<v Speaker 3>you can do that on my computer as well. On

0:51:54.239 --> 0:51:56.480
<v Speaker 3>my laptop, I can stream it. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how you're getting it, but if you stream Dbacks TV,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure that you can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you go. There we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Are These are the kind of pro tips that you

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<v Speaker 1>get for watching the Snakes Territory Podcast. Thank you again

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<v Speaker 1>to all of you for being here with us on

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<v Speaker 1>hear from us once again late Sunday night early Monday morning.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have a recorded episode after the conclusion of this

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<v Speaker 1>big Washington national series, so we look forward to seeing

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<v Speaker 1>you all. Then, thank you again for being here with us.

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<v Speaker 1>We really appreciate your time, and we'll be back once

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<v Speaker 1>again on Sunday late night with another edition of Snakes

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<v Speaker 1>Territory