Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another episode of Snake's Territory, part
Speaker 1: of the Foul Territory Network. Be sure to like this video,
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Speaker 1: Friedman alongside Jack Summers and Jack. Tonight's win for the
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks was maybe not quite as emphatic as what we've
Speaker 1: seen the past couple of days.
Speaker 2: But it is a win. Nonetheless.
Speaker 1: They win a big game over the Washington Nationals by
Speaker 1: a final score of three to two. Jack Eduardo Rodriguez
Speaker 1: was excellent when it mattered most, Gabrielle Moreno had another
Speaker 1: great game, and the Diamondbacks just keep on rolling.
Speaker 3: Tory Lavello said that this was going to be a
Speaker 3: really gritty road trip, and you know, certainly it was
Speaker 3: a very gritty win tonight. It was not an easy
Speaker 3: win to capture the geaked by they got it, and
Speaker 3: you know, this is really a necessary win for them,
Speaker 3: not only for the standings and all of that, but
Speaker 3: also for keeping the momentum going, putting the pressure on
Speaker 3: Mike Hazen, which we'll talk about a little bit, to
Speaker 3: be more aggressive at the trade deadline. So all the
Speaker 3: way around, you know, just an important win. Also, they
Speaker 3: got a tough pitching matchup tomorrow, so you know they
Speaker 3: got to try to win this series for sure, and
Speaker 3: you know, put the put the Nationals in the rearview mirror.
Speaker 1: I guess I'll start with Eduardo Rodriguez and kind of
Speaker 1: breaking this one down. Just typically Rod start right, I mean,
Speaker 1: six innings, two runs, and what really stood out most,
Speaker 1: as is often the case, is his ability to just
Speaker 1: bear down and make pitches when he really needs to.
Speaker 1: Right off the bat in the bottom of the first inning,
Speaker 1: James Wood hits a single under Shaparro former Diamondback or
Speaker 1: former Diamondbacks farm hand make hits a one out double,
Speaker 1: so you've got second and third, one out.
Speaker 2: CJ.
Speaker 1: Abrams then strikes out on one of the biggest pitches
Speaker 1: that e Rod made the entire game. It was a
Speaker 1: change up down below the zone and an Abrams whift.
Speaker 1: He got Dylan Cruz to fly out to end the
Speaker 1: threat there. And then in the bottom of the sixth,
Speaker 1: a very unfortunate situation on the defensive side of the
Speaker 1: ball to tell Marte and Corbyn Carroll miscommunicate on a
Speaker 1: lazy pop fly it's set up a first and second
Speaker 1: nobody out situation. Jacob Young lays down a bunt, moves
Speaker 1: those guys up to second and third, and you know,
Speaker 1: at that point it's a two to two game. You
Speaker 1: kind of figure like, all right, here's where the Nationals
Speaker 1: pull out ahead. But once again, Eduardo Rodriguez dials up
Speaker 1: a strikeout when he needs it. He gets Harry Ford
Speaker 1: to strike out there. He did walk Luis Garcia after
Speaker 1: that with first base open, but then he gets the
Speaker 1: seam Nuniaz to ground down to end the threat. I
Speaker 1: texted you earlier, Jack that I think Eduardo Rodriguez's twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six season with runners in scoring position, I think
Speaker 1: it needs to be studied by scientists because this is
Speaker 1: outrageous what we are seeing. He entered today with a
Speaker 1: one forty one opponent batting average with runners in scoring position,
Speaker 1: and that only got lower after this game.
Speaker 3: We often get so caught up in regression to the
Speaker 3: mean and what's expected verus what's not, and we know
Speaker 3: that eventually things do tend to even out. But the
Speaker 3: other aspect of this is sometimes athletes are just in
Speaker 3: the zone. They don't stay in the zone forever. And
Speaker 3: I think that's a very different way to describe what
Speaker 3: we see sometimes as opposed to the regression. To the mean.
Speaker 3: We've all played some sports, We've all watched sports, and
Speaker 3: you see players perform in certain situations where they are
Speaker 3: locked in, they are dialed in. And in this case,
Speaker 3: like for example, you know at Rodriguez executing a tough
Speaker 3: change up, you know to get a damis striking out,
Speaker 3: as Gabrin Marino is just talking about on the on
Speaker 3: the on the post game. That ability to do that,
Speaker 3: to lock in, to focus, to make the pitch, or
Speaker 3: to you know, have the grade at bat. It's it's
Speaker 3: so difficult to quantify and it's something that we can't
Speaker 3: really grasp. But it's like kind of trying to grab
Speaker 3: water with your hands sometimes, but it's real. It happens.
Speaker 3: And Rodriguez has been in the zone when he needs
Speaker 3: to be almost the entire season. It's fun to watch.
Speaker 1: He generated just so much soft contact in this game
Speaker 1: as well. I mean you look at the big picture numbers,
Speaker 1: there only three of twenty balls put in play by
Speaker 1: Nationals hitters were hard hit. His average exit VELO against
Speaker 1: was seventy seven point two miles per hour. He got
Speaker 1: a decent amount of chase out of his zone thirty
Speaker 1: five percent chase rate through first pitch strike seventy percent
Speaker 1: of the time. So you know, I guess maybe the
Speaker 1: gripe jack is that e Rod getting off the mound
Speaker 1: to field grounders from time to time.
Speaker 2: Not not always the best.
Speaker 1: If we're nitpicking here, but hey, it's a small price
Speaker 1: to pray, price to pay. He is now nine and
Speaker 1: three with a two point six four era. I guess
Speaker 1: you can give him a little grace on that front.
Speaker 3: Coming back from the All Star break prior you know,
Speaker 3: whether you prior to euro Adds last start. Tory Lavello
Speaker 3: was talking about you getting off the mound quickly during
Speaker 3: the All Star Game for a play, and he said
Speaker 3: there was a coach's text thread where they were all
Speaker 3: kind of joking back and forth like, oh, he can
Speaker 3: do it the see get off the round there, but
Speaker 3: today not so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not always, not always a great look. But Irod
Speaker 1: did make the big pitches when he needed to. He
Speaker 1: has carried the Diamondbacks this season. They had to pick
Speaker 1: him up in his last outing that of course was
Speaker 1: not a good one, but he bounces right back against
Speaker 1: one of the best offenses in all of baseball, arguably
Speaker 1: the best offense in all of baseball in the Washington Nationals.
Speaker 1: On the offensive side, there wasn't much to speak of
Speaker 1: for the Diamondbacks in this one. But boy, I'm sure
Speaker 1: you had a big smile on your face.
Speaker 2: Jack.
Speaker 1: In the top of the second inning because the Diamondbacks
Speaker 1: with runners first the second and nobody out, Adrian Delcasto
Speaker 1: lays down a sack bunt, something that you've been talking about,
Speaker 1: like the d Backs need to start doing that more,
Speaker 1: especially with some of these hitters who are not performing well.
Speaker 1: So Adrian delkas stil lays down a flawless sack bunt,
Speaker 1: moves the runners up to second and third with one out,
Speaker 1: and then Tim Twa follows that up with another. This
Speaker 1: want to push bunt up the first baseline. Couldn't laid
Speaker 1: it down any better than he did. It was a
Speaker 1: thing of beauty and it scored Max Kepler from the
Speaker 1: third base Tyler Locklear moved up to third. They had
Speaker 1: no hope of getting Tim Tawa at first base either.
Speaker 1: It goes for an infield single and that not only
Speaker 1: scored a run but led to another Dbax run.
Speaker 2: In the inning to tell.
Speaker 1: Marte followed this up with a fielder's choice ground out
Speaker 1: to drive in another run. Both of those runs, of course,
Speaker 1: enormous for the Diamondbacks and what was ultimately a one
Speaker 1: run game.
Speaker 3: I was very happy to see them expand the player
Speaker 3: pool with which they're willing to use the bunt. For me, obviously,
Speaker 3: you don't want to just be giving away out willy
Speaker 3: nilly in every situation. You can't be too rote about it.
Speaker 3: But there are certain situations, in certain contexts, against certain
Speaker 3: teams where you really do need to be able to
Speaker 3: dive into that part of the strategy, regardless of where
Speaker 3: you are in the lineup. And so what I've been
Speaker 3: advocating for is just expanding the player pool with which
Speaker 3: they're willing to utilize the bunt, and especially obviously down
Speaker 3: to the bottom half of the order, they're really you know,
Speaker 3: there's maybe like two or three guys in this lineup
Speaker 3: that I can say, all right, you don't need to
Speaker 3: bunt with those guys and everybody else, everybody else on
Speaker 3: this team. I would want them to have that ability.
Speaker 3: So we joke about the bunt club that they have
Speaker 3: that works out with the Jeff Banister before games, and
Speaker 3: I'd like to see that player pool that works with
Speaker 3: him on bunting continue to expand. So great stuff today
Speaker 3: from del Castillo in that situation. Look, I'm everybody knows
Speaker 3: I'm an analyst. I'm a saber guy, and you know
Speaker 3: orthodox sabermetrics is never sacrificed bunt. But I'm not that orthodox.
Speaker 3: I'm very flexible when it comes to kind of trying
Speaker 3: to balance the the two aspects of this game. You've
Speaker 3: got to be able to play situational baseball. I just
Speaker 3: look at the really good teams like the Brewers and
Speaker 3: the Rays and how they were able to execute that
Speaker 3: up and down the lineup when they need to. And
Speaker 3: that's what I want to see more from the Diamondbacks
Speaker 3: like we did tonight.
Speaker 1: D BACS pr sent out an interesting note about that inning.
Speaker 1: They said the d Bacs second inning was the first
Speaker 1: time they had a sac bun, a bun hit and
Speaker 1: two plus runs in an inning since July twenty seven
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty two against the San Francisco Giants. It's
Speaker 1: the sixteenth time in franchise history that the Diamondbacks have
Speaker 1: managed to d back, so kind of a little random there,
Speaker 1: but you know, not surprising to hear that twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two was the last time the Dbacs did this. I mean,
Speaker 1: especially in twenty twenty two and going into twenty three
Speaker 1: a little bit, this team had a lot more of
Speaker 1: a small ball identity than they've had in the past
Speaker 1: few years. That second inning in this game was sort
Speaker 1: of a callback to the Diamondbacks small ball days from
Speaker 1: a few years back. The player that we really wanted
Speaker 1: to spend some time highlighting from this game, though, that
Speaker 1: we still haven't gotten to is Gabrielle Moreno. He had
Speaker 1: two hits in this one. I guess technically those hits
Speaker 1: didn't wind up factoring in to the runs that they scored,
Speaker 1: but he did come through in the top of the
Speaker 1: seventh with a big sacrifice fly bases loaded one out.
Speaker 1: At times, it's felt like a difficult situation for the
Speaker 1: d Backs to execute, and he manages to drive a
Speaker 1: middle end sweeper. I guess it was actually a little
Speaker 1: off the corner inside two left field gets it plenty
Speaker 1: up in the air enough in order to score run.
Speaker 1: That run ultimately proved to be the difference in this game,
Speaker 1: and Gabrielle Moreno just deserves his flowers in general here, Jack,
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at his numbers going back to
Speaker 1: May thirteenth, This is entering today, So it doesn't facts
Speaker 1: are in his two hits from this game. But these
Speaker 1: are crazy numbers over a span of more than two months.
Speaker 1: A three forty seven batting average, four to thirty nine
Speaker 1: on base four ninety two slugs, six home runs, twenty
Speaker 1: seven RBI. Now it would be twenty eight after this game.
Speaker 1: Thirty two walks, only twenty eight strikeouts. I mean, these
Speaker 1: are insane numbers, Jack. And this isn't the version of
Speaker 1: Gabby Moreno that is only playing, you know, three four
Speaker 1: games a week. This is a version of Gabby Moreno
Speaker 1: where he is playing literally every game, either at catcher
Speaker 1: or at DH.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and it's an all around game. The
Speaker 3: hitting numbers are amazing, and of course the two to
Speaker 3: four to night probably runs that number that you just
Speaker 3: put up there on the screen up to or over
Speaker 3: three fifty. And you know, you think where he was
Speaker 3: before that. It's just amazing how consistent he's been, the
Speaker 3: quality of the at bats. You know, this is more
Speaker 3: than just a guy on a hot streak. This is
Speaker 3: a guy that has really figured out who he is
Speaker 3: as a hitter and what he has to do to
Speaker 3: be successful, and he's just executing on it night after night.
Speaker 3: You know, he made two terrific plays on pop ups.
Speaker 3: He called a fantastic game tonight. Whether we're looking at
Speaker 3: you know, batting numbers, w RC plush, you know, Fangrass War,
Speaker 3: Baseball Reference War, or the average of the two Baseball
Speaker 3: Reference War, I don't think it includes framing, whereas Fangrass
Speaker 3: War does. So Fangrass always favors him a little bit.
Speaker 3: But you know, Gabriel Marinos, without question, at this point
Speaker 3: in time, the best catcher in the National League, and
Speaker 3: he was before the All Star break. It was very
Speaker 3: much a snub that he was not an All Star.
Speaker 3: I realized he missed some time early and the play
Speaker 3: appearances might not have been there. You do have the
Speaker 3: factor of having to get you know, a player from
Speaker 3: every team on there, and Major League Baseball is limited
Speaker 3: into how they can fill in the gaps. But Gavin
Speaker 3: Marino deserved to be an All Star this year, and
Speaker 3: you know, he's clearly the best catcher in the National
Speaker 3: League at this time.
Speaker 1: Full stop, You and I were texting back and forth
Speaker 1: about him last night, thinking like, could Gaby Moreno win
Speaker 1: the Silver Slugger in the National League.
Speaker 2: It feels like he should.
Speaker 1: But there's also this guy named Hunter Goodman who's going
Speaker 1: to hit like seventy five home runs. Partially because he
Speaker 1: plays in course field. That's a big part of it.
Speaker 1: But Hunter Goodman has had a good offensive season overall,
Speaker 1: so maybe it's an uphill battle to win the Silver Slugger.
Speaker 1: I think Gabby is very much in the gold Glove conversation,
Speaker 1: you know, Luis Torenz looking at some of the numbers.
Speaker 1: I think Torenz maybe has the slightly better defense metrics
Speaker 1: as of right now, but there's no question as far
Speaker 1: as the full package is concerned. Gabriel Moreno is the
Speaker 1: best catcher in the National League right now, and he
Speaker 1: just deserves a ton of credit for being kind of
Speaker 1: the one hitter in this lineup that you can count
Speaker 1: on on a day in, day out basis like catell
Speaker 1: and Corbin and Perdomo, those guys have all had pretty
Speaker 1: big ups and downs over the course of the year.
Speaker 1: Moreno didn't start that well. I mean his ops if
Speaker 1: you go back to May thirteenth, His ops on that
Speaker 1: day was five ninety three, which is sort of crazy
Speaker 1: to think about, But ever since then, he's been one
Speaker 1: of the best players in baseball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's kind of you know, he's only got
Speaker 3: two more years after this of team control. They've never
Speaker 3: been able to work out an extension with him, and
Speaker 3: you know that's it's going to be a sad day
Speaker 3: when he's no longer a diamondback. But if they don't
Speaker 3: pull off an extension here pretty soon, almost immediately, maybe
Speaker 3: even before this season is over, then it's likely that
Speaker 3: they won't be able to. So you know, let's just
Speaker 3: get as much out of him as we can and
Speaker 3: enjoy it. While last folks Gapria Moreno's All Star caliber catcher,
Speaker 3: he's already been a Gold Glove winner. He deserves more
Speaker 3: accolades than he's getting. And we devoted a very full
Speaker 3: segment here on him because we really haven't given him
Speaker 3: enough love. Maybe we've been taking him for granted, just
Speaker 3: like everybody else that will I'm sure many of you
Speaker 3: have not been.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I will just throw in there that Derek Hall
Speaker 1: was asked yesterday, I think, on Arizona Sports ninety eighty
Speaker 1: seven about the possibility of a Gabby extension. He kind
Speaker 1: of gave the answer you'd expect, like, you know, we've
Speaker 1: had conversations about this in the past, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: we will in the future because of you know, how
Speaker 1: big of a part of this team Gabby is. So
Speaker 1: he certainly didn't close the door on it. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's likely, but given what he's meant to
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks the past couple of months, they definitely feel
Speaker 1: like Gabby Moreno is a player you'd love to see
Speaker 1: stick in a Diamondbacks uniform.
Speaker 2: Long term, we.
Speaker 1: Have a whole lot more to get to in this episode.
Speaker 1: We got a super chat that will touch on We
Speaker 1: also have the standings to look at. Of course, things
Speaker 1: looking pretty promising there for the Diamondbacks today.
Speaker 2: And then Mike.
Speaker 1: Hazen also had a visit with the Dbacks radio booth
Speaker 1: from this game, so we have some comments from Hazen
Speaker 1: about the trade deadline that we're going to dive into
Speaker 1: as well. So don't go anywhere, We'll be back right
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Speaker 2: We are back here on Snake's territory.
Speaker 1: Really appreciate all of you being here with us live
Speaker 1: in the chat. We see all of your comments coming
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Speaker 1: We did get a super chat from the argyra speedis
Speaker 1: over on over here from our YouTube chat and they say,
Speaker 1: thank you guys for being such an incredible show, such
Speaker 1: a great resource. Well, we very much appreciate that. Just curious,
Speaker 1: do we have any update on Mana? Haven't had an
Speaker 1: update recently. I feel like it's been a while since
Speaker 1: we've heard anything there, Jack, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: have any anything to report on that front.
Speaker 3: Well, actually, he had a season ending shoulder surgery in June,
Speaker 3: so Christian Mena will not be pitching for the Diamondbacks
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: That's right, Yes, we do have an update there, so yeah,
Speaker 1: unfortunately he will not be a factor for this team
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, and I mean entering the season,
Speaker 1: he definitely looked like he was a significant part of
Speaker 1: their starting pitching depth, so a bummer to see that.
Speaker 1: Hopefully he's able to get back here before too long.
Speaker 1: We did want to shout out our good friend Azy
Speaker 1: Nailgal five to zero from Azy Snake Pit, all of
Speaker 1: our friends over there. She points out that our run
Speaker 1: differential is plus two now and this is a great point.
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks have been floundering with a negative run differential here
Speaker 1: for a while. They got that number up to plus
Speaker 1: one yesterday with their win over Saint Louis and now
Speaker 1: plus two with their one run win over the Washington
Speaker 1: Nationals here in this one, and that brings us to
Speaker 1: the standings Jack. Things are looking pretty good here for
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks, at least compared to what they've looked like
Speaker 1: for the last month or so. The Diamondbacks at fifty
Speaker 1: five and forty nine, they are in that third wild
Speaker 1: card spot. They now have a two game cushion on
Speaker 1: the Saint Louis Cardinals and the Pittsburgh Pirates. Both of
Speaker 1: those teams are tied currently, and then you've got the
Speaker 1: Miami Marlins two and a half back, the Nationals now
Speaker 1: three games back after this game, and then the San
Speaker 1: Diego Padres at four and a half games back. The
Speaker 1: other thing that stands out, of course, is the d
Speaker 1: Backs are just one game behind the Philadelphia Phillies. The
Speaker 1: Phillies lost the New York Yankees earlier tonight, and hey,
Speaker 1: I mean the d Backs are only three and a
Speaker 1: half behind the.
Speaker 2: Cubs as well. For the top overall wild card spot.
Speaker 1: So things are looking pretty good Jack, from a standing
Speaker 1: standpoint right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's exciting. I mean, this is not exactly what
Speaker 3: we were expecting. I mean, you know, this kind of
Speaker 3: stretch where they win so many games in such a
Speaker 3: short period of time was not exactly what everyone was expecting. Certainly,
Speaker 3: the way they were playing more than you know, just
Speaker 3: before the Dodgers sweep is not something that anyone could
Speaker 3: have predicted. But that's why they play the games, right.
Speaker 3: You can't predict baseball. Now, their playoff odds are skyrocketing,
Speaker 3: I mean, not only what you see in the standings.
Speaker 3: They're up to forty seven percent now with fangrafts, like
Speaker 3: you said, and so I just think that they're in
Speaker 3: the driver's seat now for what they want to do.
Speaker 3: I feel like the biggest threat to them is still
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Pirates. I've kind of felt that way for
Speaker 3: a while. I think that they have a pretty good offense,
Speaker 3: and I think that their offense is pretty sustainable. Well,
Speaker 3: the expected metrics put them in the top five of baseball,
Speaker 3: so you know, even though that they probably outperformed those
Speaker 3: expected a bit, the fact is is they have a
Speaker 3: good offense, they have a good pitching staff. They're in
Speaker 3: the top half of the league, maybe twelfth to thirteenth,
Speaker 3: and certainly there's potential for that pitching staff to be
Speaker 3: a lot better. The biggest thing probably going to hold
Speaker 3: the Pirates back as their ownership. Recently there was a
Speaker 3: report that they would like to add but they can't
Speaker 3: add payroll. Well, I don't know how you're going to
Speaker 3: do that because the only one they're paying any money
Speaker 3: to is Marcelo Zuna, and nobody's going to take his contract.
Speaker 3: So I don't know how the Pirates are going to
Speaker 3: add to their team, and they probably could use some
Speaker 3: bullpen help. It's probably the weakness of their team, but
Speaker 3: that's the biggest threat to the Dbacks in my view.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair. I mean, just throwing up
Speaker 1: the standings one more time. I mean, the Marlins definitely
Speaker 1: felt like a good team. I mean, we've talked in
Speaker 1: the past about if you look at some of the
Speaker 1: underlying stuff with the way they've performed this year, they
Speaker 1: actually grade out of been quite a bit better than
Speaker 1: their record, and yet here they are having lost nine
Speaker 1: games in a row, and then the Padres.
Speaker 2: Things look scary there. A few days ago, it felt like.
Speaker 1: Machado and Fernando Tatis and Jackson Merrill were all starting
Speaker 1: to hit. And then they lost back to back games
Speaker 1: against the Atlanta Braves, and now they're actually playing the
Speaker 1: Miami Marlins. So we'll see what what that series looks
Speaker 1: like the next couple of days. And I think all
Speaker 1: of this leads us to a place where, you know,
Speaker 1: is this Diamondbacks team flawed? Like, yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: think I feel pretty comfortable saying that. I think this
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks team is, you know, given the offensive struggles they've
Speaker 1: had this season, the fact that this starting rotation is
Speaker 1: kind of a patchwork job at this point. Bullpen has
Speaker 1: been great and has made up for some of that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's It's not a great Diamondbacks roster on paper.
Speaker 1: I'd be lying if I said I thought that. But
Speaker 1: you look at some of these other teams that they're
Speaker 1: competing with, and it's like, well, they don't necessarily have
Speaker 1: to be great. They just have to be better than
Speaker 1: the Marlins and the Pirates and the Cardinals and the
Speaker 1: Nationals and the Padres. And the more we see of
Speaker 1: those teams, the more it's like yeah, they actually might be.
Speaker 1: And at this point, when we think about the buy
Speaker 1: verse cell conversation, Jack, I don't really know if there's
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's much of a conversation to
Speaker 1: have in terms of buy verse Cell. I think it's
Speaker 1: more of just like what does buying look like at
Speaker 1: this point?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, as we you know, in a few minutes,
Speaker 3: when we go and dive into the specifics of Mike,
Speaker 3: what Mike's had to say, you know, we'll just go
Speaker 3: right to the horse's mouth on that. I think it's
Speaker 3: fairly clear what his intentions are. But if you're talking
Speaker 3: about the roster in general, the one thing that's really
Speaker 3: been standing out to me is how many rookies the
Speaker 3: team has deployed this year. It's quite alive. It's not
Speaker 3: the most in baseball actually, but as of a couple
Speaker 3: of days ago, they had utilized fourteen players between position
Speaker 3: players and pitchers that were still had rookie eligibility not
Speaker 3: necessarily made their major league debut. If it's somebody that
Speaker 3: played last year but still had eligibility for rookie status
Speaker 3: this year is included in that. And so that's a
Speaker 3: pretty good number to have, right like, you know, because
Speaker 3: these guys keep coming back to the majors and being
Speaker 3: a little bit better than they were the first time around.
Speaker 3: They're improving. The other point that I thought was really cool,
Speaker 3: I was looking at playoff and World Series winners and
Speaker 3: the World Series winner that utilized and this is going
Speaker 3: to shock everybody, they utilized the most players with rookie
Speaker 3: eligibility was the two thousand and one Arizona Diamondbacks. They
Speaker 3: had seventeen. Okay, so how about that. Yeah, the Arizona
Speaker 3: Diamondbacks utilized seventeen players in two thousand and one that
Speaker 3: had rookie eligibility. So I guess the point here is
Speaker 3: it's not that the rookie are you know, one, two
Speaker 3: and three in the Rookie of the Year balloting. It's
Speaker 3: that everyone's got a contribution to make and you just
Speaker 3: need to have, you know, take turns having positive moments
Speaker 3: and playing heads up baseball and playing good defense, take
Speaker 3: turns having your big hits. And that's what we're seeing.
Speaker 3: I mean, they're getting contributions on kind of a rotational
Speaker 3: basis from their young players and that's been great to see.
Speaker 3: And I think that that's really helping to fill some
Speaker 3: of the gaps that the roster has had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of these guys, and the dbacs are,
Speaker 1: for better or worse, having to count on quite a
Speaker 1: few of them right now. And as they get a
Speaker 1: little bit healthier, hopefully in the second half of the season,
Speaker 1: and maybe as they make some trades, maybe you're able
Speaker 1: to kind of lessen the load on some of those
Speaker 1: guys and you know, let them come into their own
Speaker 1: and the big leagues in a little bit.
Speaker 2: More of a natural way.
Speaker 1: We have a whole lot more to get to on
Speaker 1: the trade deadline front. Mentioned it earlier, Mike Hazen made
Speaker 1: some comments about what the dbacs are going to do.
Speaker 1: So we're going to go ahead and take our last break.
Speaker 1: Drop that in here real quick. And on the other side,
Speaker 1: we're going to dive a little bit more into this
Speaker 1: trade deadline conversation.
Speaker 2: So don't go anywhere.
Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this.
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Speaker 1: Well, before we jump back in here to some trade
Speaker 1: deadline chatter, we do want to highlight a couple of
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Speaker 1: We very much appreciate the positive vibes and the super
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Speaker 1: who says every team should have a duo represent them
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Speaker 1: give me two realistic trade targets. All right, Well, you
Speaker 1: and I have been kind of working on this behind
Speaker 1: the scenes. Here recently, Jack, So we have we have
Speaker 1: a list that is much longer than two So I
Speaker 1: don't know who we who we want to pick here, Jack,
Speaker 1: I guess Nathaniel low is the name we've mentioned a
Speaker 1: bunch of times already.
Speaker 3: No, we're going to your Don Alvarez and Turik school now,
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. There we go, There we go, dreamings free.
Speaker 3: We have talked about Nathaniel low before here on the show.
Speaker 3: And you know, he's under two million dollars this year
Speaker 3: in payroll. The Cincinnati Reds are definitely sellers. He's not
Speaker 3: a high impact guy, but he's solidly above average almost
Speaker 3: every year, as he is this year. He could be
Speaker 3: a left handed DH, and you're you know, we have
Speaker 3: the unfortunate situation to contemplate that eventually. You know, they're
Speaker 3: going to be without Max Kepler if they go to
Speaker 3: the postseason, so they're going to need another left handed bat.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't use low in the outfield, but you know,
Speaker 3: do you want to go into the postseason with Adrian
Speaker 3: del Castillo as your lefty DH or would you rather
Speaker 3: have a little bit more professional, long term, established guy
Speaker 3: that's above average in Nathaniel Lowe I'd probably like to
Speaker 3: see that happen. And he's you know, his price tag
Speaker 3: maybe a little bit high for what he brings on
Speaker 3: a rental deal, because there just aren't that many out there.
Speaker 3: There's not enough guys out there to do this. But
Speaker 3: I think that he's definitely a realistic option.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. I would totally agree with that.
Speaker 1: I guess to throw another name out there, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go actually a name that we were texting
Speaker 1: about earlier, Shane Bieber of the Toronto Blue Jays. Of course,
Speaker 1: we saw a lot of Shane Bieber during the Blue
Speaker 1: Jays playoff run a season ago. Certainly he has postseason experience.
Speaker 1: Formerly one of the best pitchers in all of baseball.
Speaker 1: Not quite that guy anymore, but he's looked really good lately.
Speaker 1: You pointed out to me his most recent outing was
Speaker 1: seven innings of one run ball that against the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay Rays. Before that, it was six scoreless innings against
Speaker 1: the Chicago White Sox. So, you know, he's only made
Speaker 1: six starts this year, four to seven, zero eer a.
Speaker 1: But he's the type of picture that you really like
Speaker 1: if he can get hot, and he is a rental
Speaker 1: and I think the Blue Jays are gonna to sell
Speaker 1: question mark.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean you never know with the American League,
Speaker 3: like any team over there goes on a four game
Speaker 3: winning streak is right back in it. Yeah, so it's
Speaker 3: a little tough, you know. And then that's just a
Speaker 3: key factor to to think about. I think at this
Speaker 3: point is probably a pretty good segue into Mike's comments
Speaker 3: on the radio broadcast. By the way, if you listen
Speaker 3: to Dback's TV, if you stream, you know that that
Speaker 3: does have the option to listen to multiple broadcasts. You
Speaker 3: can listen to the television or the radio broadcast. Happen
Speaker 3: to be listening to Mike Ferrin and Josh Colementer tonight,
Speaker 3: and they had Mike Hazen on for an inning and
Speaker 3: a half, almost two full innings I think it was,
Speaker 3: And he had some really interesting comments to make and
Speaker 3: you want to roll.
Speaker 2: Through, so yeah, go for it, get us started.
Speaker 3: What do you got? All right? So I made notes
Speaker 3: of what he was talking about, and I think the
Speaker 3: first thing to point out, like a lot of people
Speaker 3: are saying, you know, you got to make a trade now,
Speaker 3: why not getting get it moving now? Even he talked
Speaker 3: he joked about her Aldo Pidomo, you know, pushing him
Speaker 3: to make moves now, go get pitching now. But you
Speaker 3: have to have, as Mike point out, you have to
Speaker 3: have a willing participant. And he had a whole discussion like,
Speaker 3: you know, where he wants to make a trade or
Speaker 3: you know, Amiel saw Day saying, well you can't. You
Speaker 3: got to wait until other teams are ready. It's still
Speaker 3: a little early in the process. And Mike said, but yeah,
Speaker 3: but we got J. D. Martinez early, so they they
Speaker 3: have the same thoughts and experiences and emotions that we
Speaker 3: all do when it comes to timing on the trade deadline.
Speaker 3: Everybody would love to see something happen earlier, but it's
Speaker 3: not easy to do. If it was, it would happen.
Speaker 3: You need a willing participant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that runs counter to what a
Speaker 1: lot of people are maybe thinking right now, like don't
Speaker 1: they just try to jump the market a little bit
Speaker 1: and make something happen. But yeah, it's not necessarily that easy.
Speaker 1: I also thought it was funny Hazen talked about a
Speaker 1: conversation he had with Heraldo Perdomo today and how Heraldo
Speaker 1: Perdomo is also pushing him to get pitching now. The
Speaker 1: Perdomo apparently was really trying to make a case for that,
Speaker 1: and Hazen acknowledged like he sees where Perdomo's coming from.
Speaker 1: The Diamondbacks are playing some really important games right now
Speaker 1: against teams that they are in direct competition with, right
Speaker 1: the Nationals, and then you've got the Pittsburgh Pirates coming
Speaker 1: up as well. Hazen also noted that the schedule in
Speaker 1: August is difficult and so yeah, in a way, you
Speaker 1: want pitching as soon as you can possibly get it,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's not necessarily that easy. Hazen also talked
Speaker 1: about how he doesn't know who the buyers and sellers are,
Speaker 1: and I think we're still at the point around the
Speaker 1: league right now where you can pinpoint about six teams
Speaker 1: that you feel are our seller pretty confidently, and the
Speaker 1: rest is just a total wild card right now. And
Speaker 1: I think it's set up a situation where jumping the
Speaker 1: market for at least anyone noteworthy just isn't really going
Speaker 1: to be possible, or if you do, you're going to
Speaker 1: be paying a hefty, hefty price in order to make
Speaker 1: it happen.
Speaker 3: Right, I mean that's part of the dance here, sure,
Speaker 3: Like if you're willing to empty out the top five
Speaker 3: of your prospect list, you could probably make, you know,
Speaker 3: and peel off a player or two off you major
Speaker 3: league roster that you know, you feel like is a
Speaker 3: risk but worth it, sure. I mean it's never impossible
Speaker 3: to make a deal, but you would just have to
Speaker 3: overwhelm the other team so heftily with something that would
Speaker 3: be frankly a gross overpay and would not be you know, responsible.
Speaker 3: A couple other points that he made, it sounded the
Speaker 3: way he was talking like his goal right now has
Speaker 3: shifted a little bit from getting the middle of the
Speaker 3: order bat to more pitching. I mean, that's certainly with
Speaker 3: all the injuries. He talked a lot about how the
Speaker 3: injury situation has kind of put a lot of their
Speaker 3: plans and flux, you know, best laid plans. They drew
Speaker 3: up a plan, this is what they were expecting to do,
Speaker 3: and then some of the setbacks with players originally scheduled
Speaker 3: to return from injury like Corbyn Burns and aj Puck
Speaker 3: and lordus Guriel, and then on top of that the
Speaker 3: new injuries to Ryan Nelson, Michael Soroka, and Zach Gallon.
Speaker 3: All of that's really kind of thrown a monkey wrench
Speaker 3: into what their planning was, and they're kind of readjusting
Speaker 3: all this on the fly and trying to figure out
Speaker 3: the best moves to make. I think the other thing
Speaker 3: that the other part of the discussion, which is really
Speaker 3: quite relevant, is you know, they don't have much in
Speaker 3: the way of expiring contracts to move. I mean, you
Speaker 3: could say Zach Gallon or lordus Guriel Junior, but nobody's
Speaker 3: going to take them. And they're both on the injured list,
Speaker 3: they're both having terrible seasons, and they're both being paid
Speaker 3: a lot of money, so there is no trade value there.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you did move them either of them
Speaker 3: before the trade deadline, you're basically just looking hoping that
Speaker 3: you can save one or two million dollars on salary
Speaker 3: for each of them. And that's about it, which is
Speaker 3: not something to completely disregard. The dbacks are a little
Speaker 3: bit closer to the luxury tax threshold than they've ever been.
Speaker 3: They probably only have twelve to maximum seventeen million dollars
Speaker 3: before they go over that threshold. And then the last
Speaker 3: thing I'll say is that, you know, Mike talked about
Speaker 3: the possibility of maybe doing challenge trades where you trade
Speaker 3: one prospect for the other, kind of like the Zach
Speaker 3: Gallon Jazz Chisholm trade, where you know, you trade a
Speaker 3: hitter for a pitcher, a pitcher for a hitter. That's
Speaker 3: what they call a challenge trade. The other is, you know,
Speaker 3: focusing on getting controllable players, which is something that is
Speaker 3: always in his playbook. And a controllable player can be
Speaker 3: somebody that's helping you now and helping you down the road.
Speaker 3: And then finally what he said was if just dead
Speaker 3: buying i e. Rentals, Okay, so if you're just going
Speaker 3: after a rental, then that's a discussion that they need
Speaker 3: to have with ownership, you know, because certainly that's going
Speaker 3: to be a money issue as well. And he ended
Speaker 3: it by saying, if they keep playing like they are,
Speaker 3: then the guys down there deserve it. So, you know,
Speaker 3: if they if the guys down there keep winning games
Speaker 3: like this, then they did the team and the coaches
Speaker 3: and Tory deserve it. For Mike to go out and get,
Speaker 3: you know, is whatever he can the best that he can.
Speaker 1: And that's where Trek Scoogle enters the conversation. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, right, one thing I will add on the
Speaker 1: luxury tax conversation. I think it's worth noting that the
Speaker 1: penalty if the Diamondbacks were to go into that range
Speaker 1: is not actually all that significant. You just pay, my understanding,
Speaker 1: at least I believe you just paid twenty percent on
Speaker 1: the overage. So if you go five million dollars over
Speaker 1: the luxury tax, you would pay one million dollars extra
Speaker 1: as a fee for that. Which it's like, if you're
Speaker 1: already going five million over, is it really that big
Speaker 1: of a deal from a Ken Kendrick standpoint to be
Speaker 1: at six million?
Speaker 2: The d Backs wouldn't.
Speaker 1: There would be no like draft pick ramifications for that
Speaker 1: or anything. So I just want to throw that out there.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the Dbacks are going to do that.
Speaker 1: I still think it's totally possible that Ken Kendrick is
Speaker 1: is maybe going to treat that as sort of a
Speaker 1: max like where we're just not comfortable going in that range.
Speaker 1: But it's not as if like going into that range
Speaker 1: would have like dangerous ramifications for the franchise or anything.
Speaker 1: It would be quite literally just a little bit more
Speaker 1: money than what.
Speaker 2: You're already what you're already paying, not.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. There's other ramifications that could come up, actually,
Speaker 3: you know, and you could factor in. You have to
Speaker 3: factor in other things like revenue sharing and what you're
Speaker 3: you you receive, right, because they're interesting there they receive
Speaker 3: revenue sharing. But if you go over the luxury text
Speaker 3: and you're not getting that revenue sharing.
Speaker 1: I guess that's that's a good point. I'm I mean,
Speaker 1: you still wouldn't think right that being like a few
Speaker 1: million below it versus a few million above it is
Speaker 1: suddenly going to cost you, like, you know, fifty million
Speaker 1: dollars or something like that in revenue sharing. But that
Speaker 1: is a that is a ripple there that I hadn't
Speaker 1: I hadn't considered.
Speaker 3: And also I think also like in cases where you're
Speaker 3: dealing with the qualifying offer, what what the penalties are
Speaker 3: also factors in if your luxury taxpayer or not. So
Speaker 3: I don't know all those details exactly, but it's not
Speaker 3: just the specific the penalties alone that are the consideration there,
Speaker 3: I guess it.
Speaker 1: To get that exactly right, Yeah, yeah, no, that's a
Speaker 1: that's a good call. I guess all that to say,
Speaker 1: like how how much the dbacs push the chips in
Speaker 1: is once again going to depend a lot on what
Speaker 1: Ken Kendrick is willing to do. We already know the
Speaker 1: d Backs are running a franchise record payroll at this point,
Speaker 1: right So it's not as if the d Backs are
Speaker 1: one of these teams that's not been willing to spend money.
Speaker 2: They absolutely have.
Speaker 1: And we've seen Ken be quite aggressive over the past
Speaker 1: few years when he's felt the d Backs had a chance.
Speaker 1: And so maybe with this twenty twenty six roster and
Speaker 1: them being back in the playoff picture as of right now,
Speaker 1: maybe that does cause Ken to be more aggressive and
Speaker 1: to green light Yeah, not just like try to get
Speaker 1: some good, controllable pictures or whatnot, but yeah, let's swing.
Speaker 2: Big on a player.
Speaker 1: Maybe not Trek Scuoble because the prospect capital would be enormous.
Speaker 1: I don't think the d Bacs have what the Tigers
Speaker 1: would want. But you know, maybe that does green light
Speaker 1: the d Backs going out there and getting a rental
Speaker 1: who makes a decent amount of money the rest of
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, I mean Ken has always been
Speaker 3: as aggressive as he possibly can win in a position
Speaker 3: to do so, he said, you know, franchise payroll records
Speaker 3: three years in a row. Now, you know, maybe he's
Speaker 3: hearing footsteps, but I think everybody in the organization's hearing footsteps.
Speaker 3: They all know that the fan base is restless and
Speaker 3: you know, a little tired of not making the playoffs
Speaker 3: more than once every five six years. So, you know,
Speaker 3: I think getting back to the postseason this year and
Speaker 3: being good enough to do some damage when you get there,
Speaker 3: you know, is gonna definitely take some reinforcement. You never know,
Speaker 3: of course, like you know, are you going to get
Speaker 3: a J. D. Martinez situation or are you going to
Speaker 3: get a situation where you're bringing a guy and he
Speaker 3: doesn't do anything. That happens all the time, you know,
Speaker 3: where teams swing big at the trade deadline and it
Speaker 3: just doesn't work out. The players they bring in don't
Speaker 3: have the seasons that they would hope for. I mean,
Speaker 3: quite frankly, last year the Texas Rangers probably didn't get
Speaker 3: what they were looking for at of Merrill.
Speaker 1: Kelly, Yeah, yeah, that is very true. Let's see, looking
Speaker 1: at the chat here, I am the Larry just said.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's an accident. The team is playing
Speaker 1: well now that Lordis and Gallon are on the IL
Speaker 1: and Peven was the fate edition by subtraction has been
Speaker 1: massive for the team. Yeah, I guess, I guess. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's definitely a correlation there. I guess it's hard to
Speaker 1: say if it's a causation, but I mean maybe it is.
Speaker 1: I think we could say pretty clearly that like Tyler,
Speaker 1: Locklear has given the Diamondbacks a whole lot out of
Speaker 1: first base than Peven Smith had been able to do.
Speaker 3: Well. I did some work, and you know, I measured
Speaker 3: who was hurting the team the most, right, compared to
Speaker 3: what you were expecting to get and compared to what
Speaker 3: you were getting, and the players that were hurting the
Speaker 3: team the most were Lordis and Peven on offense, and
Speaker 3: clearly Zach on the mound. Yeah, you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: and I'm actually look at this with a great deal
Speaker 3: of trepidation because I think Lordis is pretty close to
Speaker 3: coming back, and I think they've got a good thing going,
Speaker 3: and if all of a sudden they toss him back
Speaker 3: into the you know, middle, middle bottom part of the
Speaker 3: order and we get more of just you know, him
Speaker 3: flailing the balls that he should not be swinging at
Speaker 3: and failing to hit the ball with any authority because
Speaker 3: he doesn't have his legs under him, Like, then, how
Speaker 3: much more of that do we need to watch before
Speaker 3: they make a decision? And I know they're in a
Speaker 3: tough spot. Look, Lortis is a good teammate. He's been
Speaker 3: a good diamondback. He's played through a lot of aches
Speaker 3: and pains and injuries. There's been a lot of times
Speaker 3: I saw Lordus Gurriel Junior hobbling around the locker room
Speaker 3: with you know, ice packs all over his legs and
Speaker 3: arms and all up and down his body. You know,
Speaker 3: he's a good guy, and he's a good teammate, and
Speaker 3: he's really tried very hard to be the best player
Speaker 3: and best diamondback he can. So, you know, I don't
Speaker 3: want anything I'm saying that, you know, fuel hatred toward
Speaker 3: the guy. But the fact is is that that knee
Speaker 3: injury and then subsequent hamstring and leg injuries have taken
Speaker 3: the bottom out of him. He's literally had his legs
Speaker 3: cut out from under him, and he's no longer able
Speaker 3: to drive the ball. And I don't see him suddenly
Speaker 3: getting that back this season.
Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier we talked about how Mike Hazen seems
Speaker 1: to be pivoting a little bit, chasing after pitching a
Speaker 1: little bit more than the thump in the middle of
Speaker 1: the lineup. It seemed like that was the main focus.
Speaker 1: I'm curious what you think of that. Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think we'd be lying if we said we didn't
Speaker 1: think the Diamondbacks still kind of needs some thump in
Speaker 1: the middle of the lineup. They still kind of need,
Speaker 1: you know, that Nathaniel Low type player that we were
Speaker 1: talking about earlier. And I guess it feels like kind
Speaker 1: of a both and if anything, like the DBAC still
Speaker 1: should have that as a priority, even though the pitching
Speaker 1: side is maybe more in need than we thought it
Speaker 1: was going to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean, obviously he's probably still going
Speaker 3: to be looking for opportunity upgrade no matter where it
Speaker 3: comes from, and that the opportunity comes up to get
Speaker 3: a good hitter at a fair price, he's going to
Speaker 3: do it. I'm not saying that he's giving up on
Speaker 3: the idea of adding to the lineup. I don't think
Speaker 3: that's what he was saying. But clearly, with all the
Speaker 3: injuries that they've had, they have to bolster this pitching staff.
Speaker 3: You know, there was a report that came out today
Speaker 3: Tory actually talking about first on Serious XM, about how
Speaker 3: Corburn Burns could be back before the end of August
Speaker 3: and early September the latest. And then you know, he
Speaker 3: walked it back when he went on the Arizona Sports
Speaker 3: ninety eight point seven with Dave Burns at two thirty
Speaker 3: and he kind of made that sound more like, well,
Speaker 3: you know, Burns is hopeful and pushing it to get
Speaker 3: back by early September, and you know Tory is hopeful
Speaker 3: for that, but it's still going to be up to
Speaker 3: the medical staff. And you know, I mean again, I'm
Speaker 3: not counting on anything from Corbyn Burns the rest of
Speaker 3: this If they get it, it's an absolute extra bonus.
Speaker 3: Mike Hasn has to operate the same way. I'm not
Speaker 3: counting on getting anything good out of Zach Gallon the
Speaker 3: rest of the season. He might, but you know, I'm
Speaker 3: not counting on it. Mike Hasn has to operate the
Speaker 3: same way. I'm not counting on getting anything good out
Speaker 3: of Ryan Nelson the rest of this season. They might
Speaker 3: maybe they bring him back as a reliever. Mike Hasn
Speaker 3: has to operate the same way.
Speaker 1: It is difficult to be in a situation where there is,
Speaker 1: you know, this this degree of players that theoretically could
Speaker 1: come back and impact the team, right. I mean, some
Speaker 1: of these guys aren't that far away. Like Soroka could
Speaker 1: be back here in the next couple of weeks, Jordan
Speaker 1: Lawler could be back in the next couple weeks. Justin
Speaker 1: Martinez in that group as well. I mean that's one
Speaker 1: theoretically very good reliever, a pretty good starting pitcher, and
Speaker 1: an outfielder who really looked great when he was healthy
Speaker 1: in Jordan Lawler. That is a lot of impact you
Speaker 1: could get, not in mid September, but in like the
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. And yet you also have to
Speaker 1: balance those factors that you're saying of like, Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: even with those guys, we have to temper our expectations
Speaker 1: of what they're actually going to give when they return
Speaker 1: to the big lea groster. And I guess that leaves
Speaker 1: me with this thought of, like what is the ideal
Speaker 1: but still somewhat realistic outcome of the trade deadline just
Speaker 1: from a positional standpoint, not getting to names at this point,
Speaker 1: but it seems like landing a starting pitcher would be
Speaker 1: a good thing. Yes, Sorocu's coming back. But you've got
Speaker 1: both Mitch Bratt and Cold Drake in the rotation right now,
Speaker 1: and all of the other starters are pretty far away,
Speaker 1: So getting a starting pitcher seems like, yes, that is
Speaker 1: kind of in the need category at this point, or
Speaker 1: at least something you very much would like to get
Speaker 1: if you can. Adding to the bullpen is just kind
Speaker 1: of always a thing that you probably want to do
Speaker 1: as a contender. So I think we can throw that
Speaker 1: in there pretty safely, something that maybe wouldn't cost them
Speaker 1: that much. And then if they were to get a
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Low type for the offense, I mean, would that
Speaker 1: be kind of a slam dunk trade deadline? And your mind, Jack,
Speaker 1: if the d Backs can acquire three players, just one
Speaker 1: guy that fits in each of those categories.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if they brought in Low or an
Speaker 3: equivalent hitter from the left side, if they brought in
Speaker 3: a starting pitcher that has got a track record of
Speaker 3: being decent or good, you know, obviously redebtmers might be
Speaker 3: the dream here. I don't know if that's achievable, but
Speaker 3: if they're able to bring in a starting pitcher, preferably
Speaker 3: a controllable one, because I think they're going to need
Speaker 3: to think ahead to next year. So if they're looking
Speaker 3: for that controllable player, I think it's going to be
Speaker 3: on the pitching side much more so than on the
Speaker 3: hitting side. I think they're much more likely to go
Speaker 3: more aggressive for a rental. On the hitting side. They
Speaker 3: could be pretty aggressive with the relief pitcher there too.
Speaker 3: But yes, you get one good, really one above average
Speaker 3: hitter and one above average starting pitcher. I mean, sure,
Speaker 3: that's a that's a home run, whether he whether it
Speaker 3: pays off or not. You can't ask for any more,
Speaker 3: regardless of the result, you know. But to do that,
Speaker 3: you know, you just hope that they don't have to
Speaker 3: completely strip mine their their upper half of their their
Speaker 3: prospect ranking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably fair. Carbon Barrows mentions Emerson Hancock's name.
Speaker 1: Of course, anytime we see a Mariner's pitcher thrown out there,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, well, Diamondbacks Mariners, here we go again.
Speaker 1: I don't really know what that would look like, though,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think the Mariners are taking Lordus
Speaker 1: Gurriel Junior for Emerson Hancock. So so we'll see we
Speaker 1: are just what is this ten days away from the
Speaker 1: trade deadline if I'm doing my math right, August third,
Speaker 1: so a week from a week from Monday. And DBAC
Speaker 1: still of course need to go out and keep on winning.
Speaker 1: And they have two more big games against this Washington
Speaker 1: Nationals team before they head on over to Pittsburgh's to
Speaker 1: play the Pittsburgh Pirates. Those games, of course also very
Speaker 1: very important. And yeah, I mean the more that they
Speaker 1: can win these games and continue to play this way,
Speaker 1: the more pressure they're going to put on my Cason
Speaker 1: to go out and be aggressive.
Speaker 3: Nine days, nineteen hours, twenty nine minutes and thirty five seconds.
Speaker 2: There we go. Now we know trade deadline is not
Speaker 2: all that far away.
Speaker 3: I have that pinned up the top of my profile
Speaker 3: on Twitter. It's the countdown clock for the trade deadline.
Speaker 2: I love it. That's great.
Speaker 1: Well, we, of course we'll be talking a whole lot
Speaker 1: more about the trade deadline in the next nine hour
Speaker 1: or nine days, nineteen hours and however many minutes and seconds.
Speaker 1: Jack just said, and we appreciate all of you for
Speaker 1: being here with us. As always, you can find us
Speaker 1: on social media. I am at Jesse and Friedman. Jack
Speaker 1: is at Shu Wizard fifty nine and our show is
Speaker 1: at Snake's Territory on Twitter, and of course you can
Speaker 1: find Jack's written work over at Arizona Diamondbacks on SI.
Speaker 1: A lot of great stuff over there from him, alongside
Speaker 1: Alex Dagostino, our good friend as well Jack. Any final
Speaker 1: thoughts here as we as we say goodbye and head
Speaker 1: into the weekend.
Speaker 3: Just to clarify, for I am Larry So I stream
Speaker 3: via the Dbacks TV and MLB TV app on my
Speaker 3: Apple TV and that has the option to select the
Speaker 3: different broadcast, whether it's the audio from the TV broadcast
Speaker 3: or the audio from the radio. At the same time,
Speaker 3: you can do that on my computer as well. On
Speaker 3: my laptop, I can stream it. So I don't know
Speaker 3: how you're getting it, but if you stream Dbacks TV,
Speaker 3: I'm sure that you can do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. There we go.
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