1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of You 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Will Drink My Trends and nothing more that one courtesy 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: trend Shop. Welcome to the trend Shop. 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: Uh. 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined in our second seed by 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: very funny comedian, actor, writer improviser whose podcast is rebrand 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: who's got a very funny special call Spiritually Filthy. He 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: just lip tricked into the zoom. It's mort Burn. Hello. Hi, Hi, Hello, 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: it's me Morty. Hello. How are you? I did a 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: kick Flip Backsmith to podcast Kick Flip Backsmith. Of course 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: we were, of course referencing. Uh. Actually we don't even 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: need to tell people. They all know about the fuck Shop. 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,959 Speaker 1: I think they got the reference to to like Two 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: Left Crew life, it was the shop. Yeah, I was. 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: I was unfamiliar before you came into the zo, before 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: you lip tricked into the zoom and started playing the 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: funk Shop. Rap certainly has come a long way. 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: Yes, young man who was very into hip hop in 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: the early nineties, is. 20 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: That well, that'd be late eighties right whatever. I don't 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: know whatever Two Left Crew came out. 22 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 2: It it's an interesting time where, you know, and God 23 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: bless to Left Crew. I'm not trying to hate God blessed, 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: but you know, it was very surprising to be that filthy. 25 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: It's not like that anymore, you know. Yeah, they were 26 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: just a lot of tracktion off us, just as filthy 27 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: as they wanted to be. You know, That's what I've 28 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: always said, even more so, honestly, even more than they 29 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: wanted to be. They didn't their hands, their hand was 30 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: being forced. Yeah, they didn't care, didn't desire to be 31 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: banned in the USA. But all right, more thrilled to 32 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: have you here. We're going to get into some of 33 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: the stories that are trending on this Tuesday afternoon. We're 34 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: going to take a look at a brief history of 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: Democrats not abolishing ice because that's something that a lot 36 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: of people are looking for them to do. Following the 37 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: killing of Renee Good, Democrats in the House and Senate 38 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: have bravely stepped forward to maybe kind of sort of 39 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: think about possibly withholding support for DHS funding bills. 40 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: You know, I like to call I mean, have you 41 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: seen them? I like to call them ice cream? 42 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: Uh huh. Also, they are murdering citizens. Yeah, they're murdering 43 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: Gestapo pieces of shit. 44 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: I also, I am I am afraid to them as 45 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: the racist Stepdad brigade from here on out, because that's 46 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: the they're always. 47 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: So worried about, like people being employable and employed, and 48 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: they're going around and having the most unemployable people in 49 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: the world murder people with jobs and kidnap people with 50 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: jobs and take them out of the country. It's interesting. 51 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: I almost feel like there's a double standard. There is 52 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: almost it's almost like there's a standard there applying to 53 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: this that they're not saying. 54 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 2: Yes, if I didn't know better, I would feel that 55 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: same way. And my question is, how are we gonna 56 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: get where are the middle managers for subways? 57 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: Sand which shop's gonna come from? You know, now that 58 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: ICE took all their jobs, we're all the guys being 59 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: uh dicks at oil change places. Yeah, who abusing abusing people? 60 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: Now they have guns and they're abusing people on the 61 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: streets of Minneapolis and many other US cities. Chuck Schumer 62 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: and Hakim Jeffries won't even say if they would restrict 63 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: ICE's funding if the Democrats take back the House in 64 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: mid in the midterms. 65 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: Psychotic. 66 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, it really, it's truly unbelievable. Like you know, 67 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: people wonder why there is frustration with the mainstream Democratic Party, 68 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: and I from the left, but I feel like it 69 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: gets treated as if it's this like, well, these leftist 70 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: elites are frustrated with the mainstream Democratic Party, and it's like, no, 71 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: it's fucking everyone. Look at the last election, like everybody 72 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: is off this shit, yep. And it's just it's the 73 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: information streams, like are you guys also not having are 74 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: you not having these murders piped into your phone? Right? 75 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: Because we all are so we see the like unconscionable failure. 76 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like they want it to be 77 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: a complicated issue. They just don't have the courage of 78 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: their convictions. And I do think the rot at the 79 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: heart of the mainstream Democratic Party is a big reason 80 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: why we are where we are today, is their inability 81 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: to win elections or govern because they don't have the 82 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: courage of their convictions. They have the courage to say 83 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: some shit before in an election and then come into 84 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: office and throw up their hands because they can't actually 85 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: legislate on behalf of the American people instead of corporations. 86 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: So it's very frustrating. Everybody's corporately owned everybody's corporately owned, 87 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: not everybody. Well, we'll talk tomorrow about Zorn's first week 88 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: in office, which was pretty exciting. But yeah, this is 89 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: a winning issue. According to Reason polls, a opping forty 90 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: two percent of Americans now support abolishing ice all together, 91 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: which used to be a fringe position. I'm shocked at 92 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: that low. But maybe that's my leftist, elite bubble that 93 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: I exist in. But I looked at that video and uh, 94 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: I thought that was bad. Maybe maybe these people shouldn't 95 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: Maybe this shouldn't exist. What what have we? What have 96 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: we gotten from ice? What's the thing that we're like? Yeah, 97 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: you'd want to, you know, abolish them all together, but 98 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. We then we would not have what? 99 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: Well again, yeah, anythink do do? Fifty eight percent of 100 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: Americans think that's where ice come, like the substance ice 101 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: comes from? About ice cubes? Yeah, I honestly I would 102 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: take I would live like a European and not have 103 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: ice cubes in my drinks if it meant abolishing. 104 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: And I tell you I love ice water, talk about 105 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: it a lot. Yeah, so refreshing. 106 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: I give it up. They're ruining the brand. 107 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: If we could get rid of these failed pe teachers 108 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: who were recently fired for inappropriate conduct. 109 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: It's also not that radical an idea, considering that ICE 110 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: is younger than most of the kids from Stranger Things. 111 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: ICE was created in two thousand and two, which is 112 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: basically the same age as all the kids on Stranger Things. 113 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: But she was looking into the history of the Democratic 114 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: Party's relationship with ICE. They helped create and fund it. 115 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: ICE's budget balloon from three point three billion dollars to 116 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: six point one billion dollars under Bush and Obama, the 117 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: state of mission of ICE at first was to prioritize 118 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: anti terrorism, immigration and border enforcement, customs regulation, cyber security, 119 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: and disaster prevention and management. And then it just became 120 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: a pretense for, you know, pressing working class immigrants. Yes, yes, 121 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: And after Obama was elected, instead of honoring promises for 122 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: more moderate immigration enforcement, he opted to launch an aggressive 123 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: crackdown that relied significantly on programs started by Bush. And 124 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: while some Democrats didn't like it, they were kept in 125 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: line by Chuck Schumer, my guy, who asked his fellow 126 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: Democrats to help the administration vilify the immigrants being targeted 127 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: by not using the term undocumented anymore. Instead what don't 128 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: we call them illegals? Let me just say there's a 129 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: whole group of people who are illegals. But twenty thirteen, 130 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: his budget for RICE was an eighty seven percent jump 131 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: from where it was in the last full year two 132 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: thousand and five. 133 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to get these guys golden zip ties 134 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: and escalades. 135 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: That's right. Let's just keep creating more of these situations. 136 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: Yep. 137 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: And that way they'll feel really good when they roll 138 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: past the homeless encampments in Los Angeles. Right, Yeah, let's 139 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: just start arresting people. Eighteen. When there were widespread calls 140 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: to abolish ICE during Trump's first term, only a quarter 141 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: of Democrats supported eliminating the agency. The GOP forced a 142 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: House vote to publicly professed their continued support of ICE, 143 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: and eighteen Democrats voted yes and one hundred and thirty 144 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: three simply voted present instead of saying yes or no, 145 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: which you gotta love it. During the twenty twenty Democratic primaries, 146 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: Washington Post questionnaire found that only two candidates said that 147 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: ICE should be abolished. Joe Biden was in the unclear 148 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: no response, I could sell up his entire presidency. Could 149 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: you unclear no response and then once he was elected, 150 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: continued to pour billions into ICE and significantly expanded the 151 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: detention system. Kamala Harris twenty eighteen, she compared ICE to 152 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: the k This is a great Kamala harrisism. Twenty eighteen, 153 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: she compared ICE to the KKK, but still didn't think 154 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: we should abolish it. Huh, let's try and reform the KKK. 155 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: Not a super great winnable message. And then during her 156 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: presidential campaign, she took the non winning strategy of promising 157 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: to deliver more immigration enforcement agents than Trump. There was 158 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: this ad that I still remember, Kamala Harris supports increasing 159 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,599 Speaker 1: the number of border patrol agents. Donald Trump blocked increasing 160 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: the number of border patrol agents. So she tried to 161 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: out Trump Trump, which is such a very unpopular president. Yeah, 162 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: And so that the only people, the only side that 163 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: had enthusiasm was Trump's side, because she was just trying 164 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: to do some weird geometric triangulation bullshit that just like 165 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: doesn't have anything to do with how politics actually happens. Yep, 166 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: let's pull everyone even more to the right. Yeah. And 167 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: then it extended into twenty twenty five, when only thirty 168 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: four Democrats in the House and Senate signed a letter 169 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: demanding answers about the arrest of Tuff's university doctoral student 170 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: messa Os Turk in Massachusetts and other international students. They 171 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: were just like, ah, guys, this is a little spicy 172 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: for us. We gotta gotta keep it quiet over here. 173 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: No bigger threat to our nation than PhD students. Yeah, 174 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Dad defiant? Who's like this? Famous lib on Twitter 175 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: posted I'm old enough to remember when President Obama deported 176 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: so many people they called him deporter in chief. But 177 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: he did it without his agents shooting US citizen mothers 178 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: in the faith three times. Seems to be arguing ice 179 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: is good, but only under Democrats like Obama, since they 180 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: weren't shooting white citizens in the street. And that's especially 181 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: fucked up because the practice of stepping in front of 182 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: vehicles in order to justify shootings was a tactic frequently 183 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: used by federal border agents during the Obama reign. That's 184 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: from a report by the Nation. Border Patrol agents have 185 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: intentional and unnecessarily stepped in front of moving cars to 186 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: justify using deadly force against vehicle occupants. Border patrol demonstrates 187 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: a lack of diligence and investigating incidents in which US 188 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: agents fire their weapons. So what we're seeing now was 189 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: what was happening to, you know, poor brown people and 190 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: immigrants under the Obama administration and under Democrats. I do 191 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: think that there's more pressure now in that we are 192 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: in a position where there's a lot of energy to 193 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: use this not only to push back against the Trump administration, 194 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: but get these old fuckers from the establishment Democrats out 195 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: of here. It's just they are wildly unpopular, They're wildly 196 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: out of touch with the people who would actually help 197 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: us get this Trump administration out of office. But they 198 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: just have the exact wrong instincts every time. Like me 199 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: playing flag football, I was very bad at flag football. 200 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: I played innermural flag football with my friends, and every 201 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: time that I would try to run with the ball, 202 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: I would just fall over immediately. Immediately. I would be 203 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: like my body would get moving too fast and I 204 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: would just my legs were just like quit on me. 205 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: It was pretty funny. I'd been hit with a stun gun. 206 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh geez, somebody face first. 207 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: And you know the difference then was that we weren't 208 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 2: all having it. We weren't able to watch these unconscionable 209 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: catastrophes while we were eating our overnight oats at nine am. 210 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's it's a different This 211 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: always happens. 212 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 2: Right, Oh yeah, the Vietnam War was all about. Once 213 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 2: media peripherates, once people have access to more photography and video, 214 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: they actually see what's actually happening, becomes harder to hot. 215 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: It's definitely worse. I'm not saying like this is not worse. 216 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: This is not an escalation. We are in an era 217 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: of just mask off fascism in the United States. There's 218 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: no denying that this is worse than it's ever been. 219 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: But just that the party that we're all kind of 220 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: turning to to ask for help to stop this, to 221 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: push back, is maybe the power structure within that party 222 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: are not the people who are going to help us 223 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: move past this. 224 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 2: And then, you know, the police have always been the 225 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: ones who had, you know, attacking marginalized people in the 226 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: shadows usually, right, you know, But then yeah, and then 227 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: but then now billions and billions to send even less qualified, even. 228 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: More you know whatever. Anyway, Yeah, all right, let's take 229 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: a quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back, 230 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: and this isn't necessarily a news story, but this is 231 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: something that I just found out about and so it's 232 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: trending in my brain. It's about Disney and the Star 233 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: Wars franchise, which has been kind of languishing since the 234 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: Rise of Skywalker kind of closed out the Skywalker saga 235 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: in a way that everyone was pretty universally like that 236 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: that sucked, except for my nine year old son, who's 237 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: like that one might be the best one, which is 238 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: who it's made for, by the way, Yes, exactly, but 239 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: people will be like it's it's a kid's movie. Get 240 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: over yourselves. But we've talked before about like Star Wars 241 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: heading into I'd say like the jj Abrams trilogy was 242 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: up there with like Beyonce Elvis, you know, Taylor Swift 243 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: more recently as like the most likely inheritors of the 244 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: role religion used to play and giving people like communities 245 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: and stories and identities to define themselves around, like people 246 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: were fucking with Star Wars heavy. And also the reason 247 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: there was like such massive backlash anytime anything happened that 248 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: they were like, that's not that's against the rules. 249 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like changing the Bible on people. They cannot 250 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: handle it. Yeah, why the New Testament is so unpopular, 251 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 3: but they seem to be. They've fallen off in a 252 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 3: pretty in a pretty major way because so that they 253 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: were acquired by Disney back in I think two thousand 254 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: and six, maybe twenty eleven, but you know, Disney has 255 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 3: a tendency to take a fictional world over hit like 256 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: a really high high with like in terms of box office, 257 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: and then about nine to ten years in it's just like, wait, 258 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 3: what happened? Like things start falling off, Like Pixar was 259 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: rolling when Disney acquired them in two thousand and six, 260 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 3: and you know for many years after that, like while 261 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 3: the came out in two thousand and eight, I think, 262 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: and then they just like start like everyone's like, oh, 263 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: this unless it's a sequel to one of those movie 264 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: that was made before that. Like they haven't been able 265 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 3: to launch a new hit movie at Pixar. It's just 266 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: like you have the stuff that was made in the 267 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: immediate aftermath of the Disney acquisition or more likely before it, 268 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 3: and then everything else kind of flops. And it's kind 269 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 3: of the same pattern with Marvel when they acquired that, 270 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: Like they had a really good run for a little while, 271 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: but then at a certain point it just falls off 272 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 3: and then Star Wars Star Wars a little tougher because 273 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 3: your mileage may vary on the prequels. It's not like 274 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: they were just one batting a thousand heading into the 275 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: Disney acquisition. But after the Rise of Skywalker, the franchise 276 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: has sort of just been like streaming and kids stuff essentially. 277 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 3: And it was good, Yeah, and Or is supposed to 278 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 3: be really good. I didn't watch it because it's fucking 279 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 3: fifteen hours of watching stuff and it is. 280 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: It's like sophisticated, well acted like you could. The morality 281 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: of it is on point. Yeah. Good. Yeah. But so 282 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: they're about to take a big swing with the Mandalorian 283 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: movie that I think that, Like there's a cool shot 284 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: of like one of those at Walkers falling off a mountain, 285 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: which looks cool as fuck, Like, granted, why did they 286 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: take those up there? But don't don't worry about it. 287 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: Why did they exist at all in the first place? 288 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: With Your Yeah, with Your Walk that's going to be 289 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: the first movie that they've released in the Star Wars 290 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: franchise in a while, and apparently the the reason for 291 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: that is behind the scenes, they've been saying no to 292 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: just like tons of projects that seem like they could 293 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: have been cool, I guess, And I just want to 294 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: talk about one that I just found out about, which 295 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: was There's apparently Adam Driver and Steven Siderberg had developed 296 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: a movie that like kept the Kylo Ren story going 297 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: and like explained it somehow, and he died and like 298 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: the last one spoiler alert, but like they were like, yeah, well, 299 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: people don't really stay dead in this in this movie. 300 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: Remember Boba Fett. We were just like, nah, he crawled 301 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: out of us our lack pit was something that he 302 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: could do. But Adam Driver and Steven Soderberg said it 303 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: was one of the coolest fucking scripts I'd ever been 304 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: a part of. And it just it sounds like the 305 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: pedigrew was there. Lucasfilm was like, this is great, we 306 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: love the idea, totally understood the angle why we were 307 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: doing it. And then it went to Disney's Bob Eiger 308 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: and he was like, nah, I don't I don't think so, 309 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see how Ben Solo is alive, 310 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: which I think they probably because the Ninth one just 311 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: brought the Emperor back from the from the dead. They're 312 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, this guy who was the main bad 313 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: guy in the original trilogy, and like the whole climax 314 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: was him dying. He actually didn't die. That was that 315 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: was just wrong. We're kidding. Just yeah. So I don't 316 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: I don't know why they're doing this other than like 317 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: they want control and also like I just like, why 318 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: not invest in movies the thing that created the franchise. 319 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: They've created the popularity that like has more lasting power 320 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: than streaming stuff, and like people would like go see, 321 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. 322 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: I yeah, I hope it would be like, uh, a 323 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 2: dissolution of a marriage marriage story style his stories, but 324 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: it's the Star Wars. Yeah, I think they're probably just 325 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 2: as interested in streaming numbers, you know what I mean. 326 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 2: I don't think it's it's not about the quality or 327 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 2: the legacy they want to pretend like, but it's also 328 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 2: got it. There's just too many Like it's always that 329 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: corporatized too. But he cooks in the kitchen thing. It's 330 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: like invariably anything that's great comes from a couple. 331 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: Of like visionary people, you know what I mean. 332 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 2: Like Soderberg is probably yeah, probably gonna have a really interesting, 333 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: unique take on it. But that's not how those corporations work, No, 334 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 2: it certainly is not. It's like it's pretty well, I 335 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,239 Speaker 2: don't know, I mean, like working on TA I've been 336 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: on some TV shows. Now I'm just here to brag, 337 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 2: but it's like very interesting watching stuff happen from the inside, 338 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: where you're like, oh, they just want to curry favor 339 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: with some random person who like because they had another 340 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 2: TV show that really did really well, So now that 341 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 2: they're just going to put this TV show that's doing 342 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: not going to do well at all in like a 343 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: primetime slot, like all this weird stuff that you kind 344 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: of have no idea what's really happening until you're kind 345 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 2: of in the center of it and you're like, oh, yeah, 346 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: this is just a bunch of like weird people making 347 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: mistakes over and over, right, like try trying to be 348 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 2: political about stuff, Like it's sort of a miracle that 349 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: stuff gets made, right. 350 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it used to be that, like the people in 351 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: the film industry, like even the executives who had like 352 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: bad instincts and sucked probably like all along, they were 353 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 1: there because they thought movies were cool and they like 354 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: wanted to be involved with the making of movies and 355 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: now just like it just seems like it's turned into 356 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: the same corporate process that everybodybody else experiences in every industry, 357 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: where it's just yeah, they're just bringing ideas for cost 358 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: cutting and you know, it's like all marketing and shit 359 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 1: is basically what it's come to. Whereas in the past 360 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: you could get people to invest a bunch of money 361 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: in just giving a big budget to a person who 362 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: had a proven track record and be like, I don't know, 363 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: I think they'll create something cool. 364 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like it's yeah, capitalism is the more 365 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: it sort of evolves, it evolves or devolves where it's 366 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 2: going to continue to kind of strip the artistry and 367 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 2: the soul from projects. 368 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I want to believe that this is a 369 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: low point, but it's probably like, well, we'll be looking 370 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: back in fifteen years being like, man, remember that Grogu 371 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: and the Mandalorian movie. I would win an oscar this year. 372 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: Remember how good those AI YouTube shorts were the day? 373 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: Well, I mean people are always going to create, you 374 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: know what I mean, that's in the human spirit. That's 375 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 2: not going to change. So it's like people are gonna 376 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: probably just like learn how to do more and more 377 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 2: with less, and then the things that, like the big 378 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: budget stuff just and this isn't always true, of course, 379 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: there's always gonna be exceptions to the rule, but they 380 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: do just become fireworks shows. 381 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: You know. 382 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: It's just loud and colorful, which is can be fun, 383 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 2: but if there's not enough of a character arc that's interesting, 384 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: it's just yawn zone. 385 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: That's how I like a fireworks shows. Like, all firework 386 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: shows are yawn zone. After like the first minute, you're 387 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: just like, all right, man, I get it. Yeah, yeah, 388 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: unless Erica Kirk's involved, in which case it's a it's 389 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: a poignant, moving display of mourning. She's my living queen, 390 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: She's my ru Paul. 391 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but it's like, but firework shows are fun 392 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: once a year, and especially if you're nine, But you 393 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: all of your entertainment can't be that shit. It's like 394 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: all your food can't be uh jack in the box. 395 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 2: You know, you gotta have, you gotta have, like like 396 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 2: sometimes vegetables taste great if they're done right. 397 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: You know, they keep telling me that I don't believe 398 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: the more. Yeah, yeah, you look sick. Jackie screens dude, yellow, 399 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: All right, those are some of the things that are 400 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: trending on this Tuesday afternoon. We're back tomorrow with the 401 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: whole last episode of the show. 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