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Speaker 1: And I think that's really the question. You know, the

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Speaker 1: lines are top ten and offense they move the football.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Giants their second and third cornerbacks, Fabian Moreau,

432
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Speaker 1: you know Darnay Holmes. Can they hang with a better

433
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Speaker 1: group of wide receivers now who the lines are gonna

434
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Speaker 1: have outside of Entema Sat and Brown will see the

435
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Speaker 1: Giants had the second best red zone defense in the

436
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Speaker 1: league of lines had the fifth best red zone offense.

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Speaker 1: So can the Giants keep this up as they start

438
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Speaker 1: playing some better offenses? So I think that's kind of

439
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Speaker 1: what you're looking at here. You know, can the Giants

440
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Speaker 1: get pass rush against what's one of the better offensive

441
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Speaker 1: lines in football that Detroit has, and can they hang

442
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Speaker 1: with the Lions? You know, passing and rushing and cactus

443
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Speaker 1: The Giants have had issues in their past and run

444
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Speaker 1: defense in different games this year, depending on what game

445
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Speaker 1: you're talking about. So that I think is kind of

446
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Speaker 1: what the concern is here. How the Giants defense hangs

447
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Speaker 1: against a frankly an opponent that that that's much better

448
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,919
Speaker 1: than some of the opponents, especially through the air, that

449
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Speaker 1: they've seen this year. Well, John, it should you know,

450
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Speaker 1: fun when Detroit Lions kind of check some boxes off

451
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Speaker 1: for Dan Campbell getting that first road win, getting back

452
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Speaker 1: to back wins. They're playing much better football, and obviously

453
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Speaker 1: the Giants of seven two, seven and two are very

454
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Speaker 1: much in the playoff picture in the NFC. So big

455
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Speaker 1: one in New York on Sunday, John, thanks for joining

456
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Speaker 1: me so much. I appreciated great stuff. And I'll make

457
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Speaker 1: sure I stop by and say hello in New York

458
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Speaker 1: on Sunday. Yeah. Absolutely, I don't think either one of

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Speaker 1: us still we'd have the Fox A team doing the

460
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Speaker 1: game for Giants and Lions in week eleven. But here

461
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Speaker 1: we are. I can't wait to see on Sunday. Time.

462
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Speaker 1: Should be fun. I like it. Good stuff, John, Welcome

463
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Speaker 1: back to the twenty in the Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft,

464
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Speaker 1: and I am joined by Isaiah Bugs tackle for the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. Glad to be you know. And we have

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Speaker 1: to start with this, Isaiah, because you and Aidan Hutchinson

467
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Speaker 1: have this little thing going in the locker room. Now

468
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Speaker 1: there's there is a pool table in the locker room,

469
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Speaker 1: and there's this white board that has messages. But the

470
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Speaker 1: only thing that I see it on the big corner

471
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Speaker 1: of that whiteboard is Isaiah Bucks three Atan Hutchinson too.

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Speaker 1: Now that's that's the pool count right now. That's the

473
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Speaker 1: pool count man. We're kind of going back and forth

474
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Speaker 1: with the pool game man, and he wins one, our

475
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Speaker 1: wins one. But today I kind of got him, as

476
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Speaker 1: you see, so when I go back in the locker room,

477
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be on me about getting this rebatch. So

478
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 1: trying to make it forward too. You know how fun

479
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Speaker 1: it is it and how much is that needed to

480
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Speaker 1: you guys got you know, ping pong table in there

481
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Speaker 1: and I know some video games in there just that

482
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Speaker 1: time after practice. Now, obviously you guys come to work,

483
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Speaker 1: you get your work done, but you got to have

484
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Speaker 1: time to decompress a little bit too. And does that

485
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Speaker 1: bring you guys together, isn't man? That's that's that's something

486
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Speaker 1: that's needed. That's a team bun thing, you know. You know,

487
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: every time we come in the doors, it shouldn't always

488
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Speaker 1: be about work, work, work, work work. Sometimes when we

489
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Speaker 1: get those breaks, that's the time for us to get

490
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Speaker 1: together as teammates and play pool, you know, play the

491
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Speaker 1: game and you know, ping poe and stuff like that,

492
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Speaker 1: so we can have our me time. But it's still

493
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Speaker 1: about business. When we go to work, it's about that,

494
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Speaker 1: but it's it's it's a good time for us to

495
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Speaker 1: have a little lead way and enjoy each other's company.

496
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about last week. Big win for you guys,

497
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Speaker 1: first one of the Dan Campbell era on the road,

498
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Speaker 1: but two in the road for you guys, and starting

499
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Speaker 1: to build these things. To get two, you gotta get one,

500
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: to get three, you gotta get two, right, you gotta

501
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Speaker 1: start stacking these things together. Just how big of a

502
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Speaker 1: win was that for you guys on the road? Man?

503
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Speaker 1: That was real big And honestly, I didn't believe that

504
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Speaker 1: people understood what Dan was saying when we was this close,

505
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Speaker 1: and now you guys starting to see what he was

506
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Speaker 1: talking about. You know, we kind of bid ourselves in

507
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Speaker 1: a b by making mistakes that cost us. If you're

508
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Speaker 1: gonna look at those games, we wasn't in the right

509
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Speaker 1: position to make this play, within the right position to

510
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Speaker 1: make that play, and we had to learn how to

511
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Speaker 1: find our identity and come together as a group and

512
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Speaker 1: start executing game plans. That's what he was meaning by

513
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Speaker 1: we was that close and now and things starting to

514
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Speaker 1: gael together for us, so now we're actually having fun

515
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Speaker 1: with it. We're winning, and you know, that was a

516
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Speaker 1: big win for us to be on the road and

517
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Speaker 1: that was that was a long time the truck Lions

518
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Speaker 1: won in a long time on the road, I heard.

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Speaker 1: And you know, that was a great feeling for me

520
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Speaker 1: and also for the team and the coaches. Man, that

521
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: was a good, great feeling. And don't shoot yourself in

522
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Speaker 1: the foot either right turnovers, you guys, there was a

523
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Speaker 1: clean game. And you saw when when Chicago was the

524
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Speaker 1: one to make the mistakes, you guys had two penalties,

525
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Speaker 1: no turn on right. So when you like to your point,

526
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Speaker 1: when you don't shoot yourself in the foot right and

527
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Speaker 1: and make some of those mistakes, you guys are right

528
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Speaker 1: there talent wise to be able to win football games

529
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Speaker 1: right now. We had a clean game and that's what

530
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Speaker 1: that's what the coaches want us to do. When we

531
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Speaker 1: have a clean game and we execute the game plans,

532
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Speaker 1: we win. How much of a headache was it trying

533
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Speaker 1: to tackle Justin Fields? Hey, man? Much respect to him, man,

534
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,719
Speaker 1: he's a great ball player. You know, he's very rare

535
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Speaker 1: respected what he can do with his legs. Man, and

536
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 1: you've seen him in that game. I had a couple

537
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Speaker 1: of miss sacks on him. Other guys had miss sacks

538
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Speaker 1: on him, but he's a great player. You know, he's

539
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Speaker 1: doing a great job over that much respect to him,

540
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Speaker 1: But what you didn't miss was that huge interception. I

541
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Speaker 1: don't know if if fans remember this, is that it

542
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: was your pressure there. You know, Aiden did a nice

543
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: job kind of feeling what was happening behind him with

544
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Speaker 1: the tight end slipping that allowed him to that force,

545
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Speaker 1: you know, justin maybe hold it a little bit, and

546
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: then you were right there beating down on him. So

547
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Speaker 1: between your rush, Aiden kind of identifying and make him hold,

548
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Speaker 1: and then obviously Jeff making the play. I mean, that's

549
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Speaker 1: what it's supposed to look like. Man, that's that's that's

550
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,239
Speaker 1: what that's what it's all about. And start from the

551
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: front end to the back end. And you know, when

552
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: I seen that opportunity to get on him, I winning

553
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: got him, but I didn't. I didn't want to be

554
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Speaker 1: too much that I miss him like I did once,

555
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Speaker 1: So I just stayed in front of him like the

556
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Speaker 1: coaches pre Style week that week, Stay in front of them,

557
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Speaker 1: occupy them, and don't let him get by you. And

558
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: that's what I did. And it created a turnover, and

559
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: it created us for seven points for the defense, which

560
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: caused us to help win that game, and huge moment

561
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Speaker 1: right now. You've got obviously another test this week and

562
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Speaker 1: Daniel John and it's a bit but Daniel Jones too,

563
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Speaker 1: And we were kind of chatting on the way up here,

564
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Speaker 1: But does it help at all that that you just

565
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Speaker 1: faced a running quarterback now? And Daniel Jones isn't the

566
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Speaker 1: athlete that that Justin is. Obviously they're a little bit player.

567
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Speaker 1: But he's rushed for one hundred yards you know, in

568
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Speaker 1: a game um this year, and you know he can

569
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Speaker 1: make plays with his legs. Is that help that that's

570
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: almost fresh in your mind? And they made the game

571
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: plans a little bit similar. Oh yes, but it's it's

572
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: start up front by knocking that run out. Man, they're

573
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: gonna feed twenty six to ball thirty and thirty five

574
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: times a game. That's that's that's they macho. That's what

575
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: they want to do. They want to run and pound

576
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 1: of football. And we gotta be solid up front, you know,

577
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: we gotta have we gotta have varsity play up front

578
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: from the big guys and control the run game. And

579
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Speaker 1: also Daniel Jones he can get it done with his

580
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: feet too. Man. We gotta make these quarterbacks beat us

581
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: in there. That's that's what it is. Sick when he

582
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: looks like a guy and Dan mentioned this today, it's

583
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Speaker 1: two yards one yard minus three four four twenty seven

584
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Speaker 1: sixty four. Is it just every single player, you gotta

585
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: be conscious of it. And you can't take a playoff

586
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,239
Speaker 1: or the guy like that man, like they said, and

587
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: like we said in meeting the day, they don't mind

588
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: pun the ball. They don't mind pun the ball. But

589
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: between those first and sick of downs, they're gonna run

590
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: that ball. When they run it, they don't have to

591
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: get a whole bunch of yards right then they're gonna

592
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: keep punching at and punching at it. Like they said,

593
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: game or two yards, game or four or five then

594
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: you go fifteen twenty. That's that's how they operate. You know,

595
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: they like to stay on schedule with their offense, but

596
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: we gotta knock that out. We gotta be on schedule

597
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: with our defense by stopping to run so they can

598
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 1: beat us in there. That's what we want to do.

599
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: So what's the key for you guys up front, especially

600
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: this week. We gotta dominate, stay in our gaps, get

601
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: our blocks, execute the game plans, be in the right

602
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: gaps who we need to be and just overall execution, Yeah,

603
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: and get all blocks. I say, you're coming from an

604
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: organization in Pittsburgh that that you know, won a lot

605
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: of games obviously, and what does it mean for this

606
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: young defense that the last two weeks it's been you

607
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: guys on the field at the end of game in

608
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: crucial moments that have helped win this game. Is it

609
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: almost one of those things where where confidence breed success

610
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: And you can almost see that in some of the

611
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: young guys now most definitely, man Like, when you look

612
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: into some of these players eyes here, they all in

613
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: to it, they and they want to win. And when

614
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: you get around a group of guys that want to win, man,

615
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: the outcome is amazing. You know. Man, When I was

616
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: in the Steelers, we had a lot of guys that

617
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: wanted to win, but it was more so of more

618
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 1: so sometime it was individual play and stuff like that.

619
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Speaker 1: But here in Detroit, everybody's a team. You know, everybody's

620
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: helping each other. Everybody wants to win. Like It's yeah,

621
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: you have individual statistics and all that stuff, but here

622
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: it's a family here when we own the field, all

623
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: to feel. Everybody want to wins, and that's where it

624
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: comes down to those to those to those crunch moments

625
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: at the end of the game. We've been in this

626
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: situation before, so that's why we know how to execute

627
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: it and win it. It just seems here, you guys

628
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: needed that, like you needed that more. You've been so

629
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: close in so many games earlier in this season. But

630
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Speaker 1: to get over the edge and then validate it and

631
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: do it again the next week that it wasn't Hey,

632
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: this just happened one time. Right, this can be us,

633
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: This can be our DNA. Right, we can make these

634
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: plays and we can dominate and at the end of

635
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: the game. I feel confident in guys we got on

636
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: this team, man, that we can get it done. That's

637
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: what That's what coach Campbell was saying. We was disclose. Yeah,

638
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: you know, and now we're starting to put it together.

639
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: We got the guys in the room to get the

640
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: job done. As you gotta see two in a row,

641
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: we can get it done, you know, just execution. I

642
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you about aiding a little bit outside

643
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Speaker 1: of the pool table. We know you're you got him

644
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: covered there. He's got a little he's got a little

645
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: improving to do to go to catch up with me

646
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: on the food table then, But on the football field,

647
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: how is how have you seen him progress and grow

648
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: over the last eleven weeks? To me, I look at

649
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: the play that he made against Green Baby interception, the

650
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: play that we talked about. Really, it almost seems maybe

651
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: like the game's slowing down a little bit for him.

652
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: He's recognizing seeing things in front of him. But I'm

653
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: just curious from your perspective, a guy that lines up

654
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: next to him, sometimes side by side to him, where

655
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: have you seen that progression with him? Man agans He's

656
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: coming alone. He's a great player. And it's kind of

657
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: hard sometimes when you're a first round draft pick, because

658
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: you know, you got all eyes on you, like you

659
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: got a job to prove to people. Yeah, and you

660
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: know when sometimes when you start off slow, that's when

661
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: you start losing interest in other people and stuff like that,

662
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: and sometimes it gets you. But they didn't get to aiding.

663
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: You know, he kept going. He kept going, and you

664
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: can see his player has been amazing. Man. He's been

665
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: rising in the chars and every category every game for

666
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: him to be a rookie and making noise like that.

667
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: He's a great player, man, and I love watching him,

668
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: I love playing beside him. Well, you're also playing some

669
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: pretty darn good football right now, and you're gonna whiz

670
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: pass your your you know, your tackle totals and all

671
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Just getting an opportunity here. I mean,

672
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: you had your football journey is obviously went to community college,

673
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: weren't heavily recruited, and then played so well that the

674
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: Alabama's yellow shoes all that came coming. And you obviously

675
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: went to Alabama, had a great, you know, great career there,

676
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: started in Pittsburgh, signed here. But just how proud of

677
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: you of of of kind of where you've come as

678
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: a football player too, because it looks like you're playing

679
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: some of your best ball. Man. I had to. I

680
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: had to finally realize my worth in me and you know,

681
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: growing up and getting it getting the football and stuff

682
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: like that. It was harder for me. I came from

683
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: wrestling Louisiana wrestling high school. It really not a heavy

684
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: recruit at time, so I had to figure out a

685
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: way to get it done. So DUCO was my only option.

686
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: I went to Missipia Golf Coast and I had great

687
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: coaches over there, Steve Davis, Irving Moore, Big Mole, and

688
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: all those coach Huff and all those guys that Mississippi

689
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: Golf Coast. Man, they they made myself kind of believe

690
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: that I can get it done, man. And I went

691
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: in their head down, went to work at junior college. Man,

692
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: those who've been a junior college, no, it's it's a grime. Man.

693
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: You don't have all the nice facilities. You don't have

694
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: all the nice jerseys, locker room and all this stuff.

695
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: And junior college it's a real life, get it out

696
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 1: of mud situation. And you know, when I went in

697
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: and I went to work this when the Alabama's came

698
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: the LSU, and I had every offer from from every

699
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: school all over. Man, I knew that I was putting

700
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: in the work in the time to make it there,

701
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: you know, and Nick Saban gave me a chance. I

702
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: went over there and went to work, and you know,

703
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: and I got drafted by the stealer, you know. And

704
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: I went in and went to work there, and everything

705
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: didn't work out there. So a new senior was best

706
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: for me and Dan and Ag and the trot Lyon's family,

707
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: whacom me in over here, man, and it's been awesome

708
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: for me. I could be myself and I'm playing great

709
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: ball because I know I'm capable of doing that, and

710
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: they put me in a situation to be successful. Man,

711
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: Like I just do what the coaches saying. I follow

712
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: the game playing. And like AG said, man, if you

713
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: follow the game playing, all the good stuff going to

714
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,479
Speaker 1: come to you. And that's basically what's been happening with me.

715
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: Just been doing my job. I'm not trying to be

716
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: a hero. I'm not trying to be that man guy.

717
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm just doing my job that they asked me to do,

718
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: and everything kind of following in my hands. That way

719
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: it is following you and falling in your hands. And

720
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: that's a good story for all the young players out

721
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: there who maybe don't see themselves on the stars and

722
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: all that other stuff that you just put your head down,

723
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: go to work, and the NFL will find you. Yeah,

724
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna find It's gonna happen, man, no matter what

725
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: school you at, junior college, D one, D two, D three,

726
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: They're gonna find you. Man, They're gonna find you. All right,

727
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving's coming up. Is there a Thanksgiving must for you?

728
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: Something you have to have something that's on the Bugs

729
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: family table there that that I'm gonna favorite. I'm gonna

730
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: tell you right now, we gotta have some chitless, some

731
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: chilling hitless. We gotta have. We gotta have some chipless

732
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving. It's a must. I like it. I like it. Well,

733
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: you're playing some really good football right now. This defense

734
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 1: is starting to play really good, you know, especially at

735
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: the end of games. They're taking advantage of those scenarios.

736
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: Let's make it three in a row. Yeah, it would

737
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 1: be big for us to do three in a row,

738
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: and I think we can get it done. Just execute

739
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,719
Speaker 1: the game plan and just buy answer what these coaches

740
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: got for us this week, and we're gonna win it.

741
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: I believe. I believe we're gonna win. Thanks appreciate. Welcome

742
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: back to the twenty in the Huddle podcast. It is

743
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: now time for key matchups presented by that MGM and

744
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: my guest this week needs no introduction at all. He

745
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: is a Pro Bowl player and Detroit Lions legend and

746
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: the color commentator for the Lions Radio Network. You got

747
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: your hand in a little bit of everything. Yeah, it

748
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: sounds like the Big Fellow's important. I like that he

749
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: is Lomas Brown, and I love the fact that he

750
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: is joining me for key matchups this week. I had

751
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: t J Langon a couple of weeks ago when we

752
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: were playing Green green Bay, and I thought, hey, what

753
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: perfect you know, guy who played for Green Bay, guy

754
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: who played for Detroit, has played for the New York Giants.

755
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: He's played obviously for the for the Detroit Lions, so

756
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: you know a little bit about both organizations and long

757
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: we just go through five key matchups every week, and

758
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: let's start with the big one in my opinion, and

759
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 1: it's sae Quon Barkley versus Alex Anzeloni. And really it's

760
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: gonna take more than Alex Anzeloni. But you know, he's

761
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: the one with the green dot. He's the one that

762
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: I think has been playing really really well the last

763
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: few weeks in terms of you know, um, you know,

764
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: trying to contain um that that run game. And when

765
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,479
Speaker 1: you look at Barkley man two hundred and tw seven

766
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: touches this year, he leads the league in rushing. He's

767
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: on Pacelain for four hundred and twenty nine touches. I mean,

768
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: they are running that young man and he's playing pretty well. Yeah,

769
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: and they have to t t I think they have

770
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 1: to utilize him in both the run and the past

771
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: game because to me, he is the cog. He is

772
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: the cog that makes that engine work over there. And

773
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: to me, if you could get him the thing about

774
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: sae Quon that just so impressive is that, yeah, he

775
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: can run the ball between the tackles, but we all

776
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: know just how explosive he is. If we could get

777
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: get him out in space, He's a guy that needs

778
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: to be out in space. I'll lie the little fellow

779
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: that I blocked for not as good as that little

780
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: fellow that I blocked for. But that's the thing we

781
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: tried to do. We tried to get the one on

782
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: one matchups with him to him on the linebacker, either

783
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: in the run game or in the past game. And

784
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: then what you wanted to try to do is just

785
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: manufacture plays where you could get him out in space,

786
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: get him out in the open so he can make

787
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: those special moves and do some of the things that

788
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: he's known for doing. So the Lions will They're gonna

789
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: have to wear his wall, though it's gonna have to

790
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: be wears se Quon each and every play because they

791
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: line him up. Brian Dabo does a great job and

792
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,479
Speaker 1: lining them up in different positions, the backfield slot. I've

793
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 1: even seen them go out wide, So it's a lot

794
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: of different things that he could do with them. In

795
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: the course, they want to get the ball in his

796
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: hands and see what they could do after he gets

797
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, it's a good point by you going

798
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: because they and they also get him the ball when

799
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: they're in those spots. I mean sometimes the lines guys

800
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: up wide and it's a decoy maybe to believe the deep,

801
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: but they try to get him the ball in all

802
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: those different spots too. And tackling is going to be

803
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: so important this week with him because you know, you

804
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: mentioned the little guy that you used to block for,

805
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: and that was probably the frustrating thing for for defenses.

806
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: You do so well, you'd contain him, you'd contain him,

807
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: and then he would just find a way one run

808
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: for seventy five yards that that changed the whole outcome

809
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: of the game. And I think se Quon is a

810
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: similar player where you can bottle him up, but you've

811
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: got to be really good because it just takes one

812
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: with him, you exactly right t t and the thing

813
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: that I've been impressed with with the Lions defense over

814
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: the last maybe like two weeks, is I'm noticing that

815
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: these guys are really trying to funnel everything back to

816
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: the middle. So they're really taking a lot of pride

817
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: they on trying to keep contained, not letting those guys

818
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: get outside and forcing that back where your help is,

819
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: because that's where your help is going to be at.

820
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: That's where you're gonna get guys to be able to

821
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: gang tackle or say Kawan Barkley. And just like you said,

822
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: the most important thing to me, first guy have an

823
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: opportunity to make that tackle. He got to make that tackle.

824
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: TT has to because it just creates so many other

825
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: problems when you don't when the first guy doesn't make

826
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: that Last week, you're right, well, let's let's flip over

827
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: to a different part, different aspect of their offense. And

828
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, second match up to me is Daniel Jones

829
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: their quarterback. First, Aaron Glenn, you know, and you mentioned

830
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: it the last couple of weeks, they've played much better

831
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 1: football defense basically. Now, I know last week you looked

832
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: at the yardage and stuff like that, but that's they've

833
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: done that against everybody and they've been consistent with it.

834
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: And look, you made the plays to win the game

835
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: at the end. And I think Aaron Glen has done

836
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: a good job the last couple weeks of putting those

837
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: guys in good situations at the end of games to

838
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: make plays. But it's a little bit different Beasts this

839
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: week because this isn't a dynamic passing attack for New

840
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: York at all. I mean, you know what you have

841
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: to do. You've got to put nine in the box.

842
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: You've got to dare them to beat you throwing the football. Now,

843
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: they look they lead the league in play action passes,

844
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: but it's it's really a short passing game. They don't

845
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: go vertical a lot. Just what's the key to that

846
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: matchup in stopping their passing game is as simple as

847
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: you know, being good on first and second down, putting

848
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: them in some bad situations where they have to try

849
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: to do something that they're uncomfortable with it. I think so.

850
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: I think Daniel Jones is a guy. I think he

851
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: gonna give you an opportunity. Tt I think we played

852
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: a couple of quarterbacks. I thought Geno Smith was a

853
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: guy that give you an opportunity, you have to take

854
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: advantage of it. I know him forgetting one other quarterback,

855
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, a quarterback that would give you the opportunity,

856
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: you just have to take advantage of it. And I

857
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: kind of put Daniel Jones kind of in that same group.

858
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna give you some opportunities. To me, you can

859
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: see Brian day Ball kind of like you're saying, shortening

860
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: up everything because he doesn't want to put too much

861
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: on this play. He don't want this quarterback thinking. He

862
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: wants his quarterback to react or come out and be

863
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: kind of be on rhythm with everything. So to me,

864
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: and we already h tt we already know what we're

865
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: gonna get. The things that's been killing our defense, right

866
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: the mobile quarterback, but even just the quarterback that's Jeff

867
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: rolls out. He don't have to roll out the run.

868
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: He can roll out, and for some problems, it's been

869
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 1: giving us a lot of problems this year, covering either

870
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: the flat guy that they saying out or that intermediate

871
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: guy that comes out. So I think you're gonna see

872
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: a lot of that with Daniel Jones rolling either way,

873
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: trying to get out of the pocket, trying to get

874
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: them comfortable. But to me. To me, he doesn't get

875
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: his eyes down feel as much as some of those

876
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 1: good quarterbacks. So when you get him out of the pocket,

877
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: I think he looks the run. Yeah, and that and

878
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: to me, that can be advantage for the Lions, because again,

879
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: you know a guy that's not gonna break out like

880
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: a Aaron Rodgers breakout looking down field, so he could

881
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: get the ball down field. He's gonna break out and

882
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna try to get the first down to get

883
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: as much yard as as he can. So I think

884
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: that might make it a little easier on the defense.

885
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: But he's still a threat with his legs. He could

886
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: still get out with his legs. And is here a

887
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: benefit then having come off a game where you just

888
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: faced a great Justin Field, So that's fresh on your mind, right,

889
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: that was the game path last week. And so now

890
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: obviously Daniel Jones is as dynamic as Justin feels. But

891
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: to your point, he'll still do it. He's very willing

892
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: and so I guess that's fresh off maybe some of

893
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: the same concepts. Defensively, Absolutely, you just watched so again,

894
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: those guys were in the locker room watching what they

895
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: did wrong against Justin Fields. You know, so they're learning

896
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: what they need to do better on say, like a

897
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: guy like a Justin Fields. Well, you know, you're not

898
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: dealing with that type of speed or that type of

899
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: ask aadlasism with a Daniel Jones. He's still capable. I mean,

900
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: he had over one hundred yards rushing in the game

901
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: earlier this year, so he's still capable hurting you on

902
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: the ground. But it's just not that dynamic big play

903
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: that I think can get out the gate like a

904
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: Justin Fields can. All right, let's talk about Detroit offensively. Yeah,

905
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 1: obviously there's gonna be a lot of talk this week

906
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: about Cavon Thibodeaux the number five pick and Aidan Hutchinson

907
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: the number two pick. But you know, let's also talk

908
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: about some Oregon on organ crime. Danna Sewell Cavon Thibodeaux

909
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: match up quite a bit here. Let's start with that

910
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: one first. Um, you know, Tipoda obviously had the mcl injury,

911
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, and it's kind of slow to come back.

912
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: But you know, one sack, three quarterback hits long, seven

913
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: total pressures. I don't think that's the impact that UM

914
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: New York was hoping for. I think, you know, he

915
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: still looks like he's wearing that knee brace. Might not

916
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: be the same kind of cat, but um, that's gonna

917
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: be a huge matchup for for Penny, right, because that's

918
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: a little different of a guy's a speed guy. It's

919
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 1: a speed guy. But I just think Pinney Sue should

920
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: have the vantage over that because one of course, being

921
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: in the league a little longer than Thibodeaux has man

922
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: But again for Milialie with him, I'm quite sure those

923
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 1: guys went up against each other. Maybe not a lot,

924
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: but I'm quite sure they went up against each other

925
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: in practice as Oregon. So at Oregon. So you you

926
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: just put that in your your data file back here

927
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: in the back of the brains, t Man, you have

928
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: to drum it up sometimes, Okay, what the what the

929
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: move does this guy like to do? And I'm quite

930
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: sure I know Piney Sue, he's gonna go back. He's

931
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: probably gonna think back to some of the battles. What

932
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: Tibodeau likes to do when he get why, what does

933
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: he like to do when he lines up tight over me?

934
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: What does he like to do? So it'll be a

935
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 1: lot of things that I think I helped Piney Seul

936
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: against Tibodeaux, and then the other thing too with him

937
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: t T What I'm finding it's a little bit with

938
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson when those guys they got to develop a

939
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: second move and that's something that's gonna come along. But

940
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: you could just see once the tackle gets his hands

941
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: on those guys, then they don't really know what to do.

942
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: Aiden and him, they just seem to swell and you know,

943
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: try to get off that way when you need to

944
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: come up with either arms swim or slapping move. You

945
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: have to come up with a second move when these

946
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: offensive linement get their hands on you. And like I say,

947
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: they're young, they're really you know, they're young guys. This

948
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: is something that they're gonna learn, they're gonna get better at,

949
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: and it's gonna make them a better player. But right

950
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: now I get Piney Seul. I give him an advantage,

951
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, So I would love to see Tibodeau line

952
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: up over him because I think we have the advantage

953
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: and also I do think telor Decker have the advantage

954
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: over him too. So back to your playing days, what

955
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: was the more difficult guy to to block? Was it

956
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 1: the speed guy on the outside? Was those JJ Watt

957
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: kind of man, because I had the Richard Dance, I

958
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: had the Chris Doleman's, you know, even Lawrence Teller. You know,

959
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: those are the three best that I ever faced. And

960
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,479
Speaker 1: those guys can either run around you, they can run

961
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: through through utt, or they're going you know, they can

962
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: come up underneath you. And that's the hard thing when

963
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: you face guys that can do all three. A speed guy,

964
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit on his inside number. I'm gonna force

965
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: him to run the hump every time. There's no way

966
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leather speed guy beat me inside. I'm gonna

967
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: just make him run around the corner. Tell my quarterback, hey,

968
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: just step up in the pocket and deliver your path.

969
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: Now is that made? Is that taskmate a little bit

970
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: more difficult this week because of Let's talk about our

971
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: next matchup a little bit. Let's talk about after Lawrence.

972
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: We'll see if it's Frank right now. Right he left

973
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: Chicago in a boot. It looks like that's gonna be

974
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: something that we're gonna have to monitor this week. Um,

975
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: you know, I know Evan Brown's doing a good job

976
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: when he stepped in there, but boy, this is this

977
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: dexter Lawrence. He's he's different kind of gas. That's a

978
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: different I mean, you're talking about a true kind of

979
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: zero tech rights. That's where he's lining up. Five quarterback sacks,

980
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: seventeen quarterback hits. That's correctal numbers if you think about it.

981
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: But I think that might be better. That's what And

982
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: they move them around right over there. And that's a

983
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: good point. Is that that that that's rare, that's that's

984
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: unusual though. I think the only person that I've known

985
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: that could bring that type of pressure from the inside

986
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: that we played against was Reggie White. But think about it,

987
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: he was an end. They used to move him inside,

988
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: So if he wasn't, just some of those New York

989
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: has taking him and say, rate over the center, let's

990
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 1: do it. Now, you've got to make a decision. And

991
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: and it's preventing quarterbacks from stepping up, allowing those guys

992
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: like Tibodeau on the edge to be a little bit

993
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: absolute effective. But just the worst pressure for a quarterback,

994
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: right is that pressure? Right? Because you heard what I say,

995
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: I want to try to do as a tackle, Well,

996
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: if my quarterback can't step up in the middle, guess

997
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: what he's gonna start trying to get out to the outside.

998
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna make my job harder. And like you're saying

999
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: with Dexter, man, it's just the brute power of this guy. Man.

1000
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: I don't seeing him take some guys and just march

1001
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: them back to the quarterback. And it's just his size

1002
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: and how he uses his leverage in that middle and

1003
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: it's hard to block him. And then the other thing,

1004
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: I think that's helping him a lot to t t

1005
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: You got Leonard Williams in there too, So Leonard is

1006
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: a great you know, and I think they play him

1007
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 1: more the three and everything. But Leonard's a space either too.

1008
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: So if if you got a Dexter driving you back,

1009
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: then again you still have somebody and Leonard Williams who's

1010
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: there to kind of recover or who can recover and

1011
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: once he drives you back, So you're right, Frank, it's

1012
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 1: gonna be big on Frank. And you know, I've seen

1013
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: when Frank kind of hurt his foot in the game

1014
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: or kind of hurt itself in the game and everything,

1015
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: and you know, Frank had a challenge over him. So

1016
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: I think you have to be totally healthy to fight

1017
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: to fight a guy like that. If not, I think,

1018
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: then what's gonna be key is for our run game

1019
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: to go to the five and the six holes. I

1020
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: mean the run towards our tackles. They're more so trying

1021
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: to run towards the middle of the offense. Of the offense.

1022
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: When you have a guy like that, Reggie Weight, like

1023
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: you played against, how much easier is it to play

1024
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: games in the middle off him and play off that penetration?

1025
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: And how much more difficult for the interior guys. And

1026
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: I know you played on the outside, you were mostly

1027
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: focused on on one guy all the time. But for

1028
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: those interior guys when they play those games, when you

1029
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: get that penetration from the nose, how much more difficult

1030
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: is it to kind of get yourself over here to

1031
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: play that stunt? You know, it just just make everything

1032
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: more difficult, so for your offensive. So tt So, when

1033
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: I was at the University of Florida, they put me

1034
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: inside and the guard position t t that last that

1035
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: maybe three days, and I told them, oh my goodness,

1036
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: put me back at time, because man, everything happens so fast,

1037
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 1: and you got to have your head on the swivel

1038
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: because you don't know which direction it's coming from. When

1039
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: you play on the inside. Of course, me at tackle position,

1040
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: I got this guy right here. I know, I'm I

1041
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: got that outside guy. But inside and like I say,

1042
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: tt happens fast. You could get a linebacker walk up

1043
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: in the a guy that might change the way you

1044
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: have to block. So to your point what you're saying,

1045
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: it's when they run those games and they run them inside,

1046
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: you have to be focused in as an offensive linement

1047
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: and you have to be able to move those games

1048
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: and switch those games quickly, or they will. They'll get penetration,

1049
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: they'll knock off this guy and now to create a

1050
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: natural gash for the other defensive lineman to come in.

1051
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be important for the old line and

1052
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,959
Speaker 1: those three interior guys. Keep your shoulders square the whole time.

1053
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: You can't turn your shoulders when you're in the inside

1054
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: because it's hard to recover right everything you do. You

1055
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: got to make sure your your shoulders are square to

1056
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmings so you can react, reade, and react.

1057
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: Tough matchup this week for Frank right now, Jordan Jackson,

1058
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: Evan Brown and potentially Dan Skipper if if if if

1059
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: Frank ANKO, So that'll be one. I kind of keep

1060
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: my eye on sir, especially for the game. How much

1061
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: that impacts them. Well, let's finish with this. I'm on

1062
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: Ross Saint Brown coming back to his old ways again

1063
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: with ten questions. Boy, he looked like he felt good

1064
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 1: last week and he's gonna face Darnels Darning Holmes. Um

1065
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 1: there there there Nickel cornerback most of the time. Likely,

1066
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: But what did you like about I'm on Rod last week?

1067
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 1: So I always say this by them, he always seem

1068
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: to be in the right place at the right time.

1069
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you to me, he can pick a zone.

1070
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: You can't run a zone against him because he is

1071
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: so well, so good at sitting down, finding the sauce

1072
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: spot in that zone and sitting down and making himself

1073
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: big for Jared to get the ball to him. And

1074
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: it's so impressive because you normally don't see young guys

1075
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: be able to read the zone and sit down in

1076
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 1: the zone. TT A lot of times they'll keep running.

1077
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. In the quarterback either want

1078
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: them to sit down or they wanted them to continue

1079
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: to run. It just seems like, well, ma, Ross Saint Brown,

1080
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: him and Jared on the same page, especially when it

1081
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: comes to zone defenses. How he's able to find the

1082
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: sauce spot. I like Tom Kennedy too. I think Tom

1083
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: does a good job of doing that too, But finding

1084
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: the sauce spots in those defense and I think that's

1085
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: gonna be important, especially when the Giants aren't running any

1086
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: man defense. I think it's just gonna be important for

1087
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: them to be able to find no sauce spots because

1088
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: I do think they're gonna provide some pressure your own Jared,

1089
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: and I need Jared to be a little bit more comfortable.

1090
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if you felt the way I felt

1091
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: t T, but I just thought early in the Chicago game,

1092
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: I just thought he wasn't comfortable early in that game

1093
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: for some reason. I don't know why. But hopefully we'll

1094
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: be able to get him comfortable early in this game

1095
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: because I do think the Giants are gonna bring a

1096
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: lot of pressure, like you're saying, from the outside, but

1097
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: also from the inside too. And Holmes has been pretty

1098
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: good this year, no touchdowns, a looted. I think opposed

1099
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: quarterbacks have an eighty one point seven passer rating against him,

1100
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: so he's been pretty good, and that's a good matchup.

1101
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: But to your point two and Holmes, is that security blanket, Yeah, Jared,

1102
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: isn't he? Yes? When you talked about when you when

1103
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: you when you aren't you know, comfortable when you're still

1104
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: trying to feel the game out, which I agree early

1105
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: in that game was Jared, you go to the guy

1106
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: that you feel most comfortable with, your security blanket guy,

1107
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: and he's closest receiver to you in the slide. He's

1108
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: got all that room in the middle to work and

1109
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 1: and look, Saint Prom's been great now after ten catches

1110
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: last week, top ten in the NFL all time in

1111
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: terms of the most catches in a player's first twenty

1112
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: five games. I think he was at one hundred and

1113
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: thirty nine. Wow, I mean he's you know, we have

1114
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: asked some good receipt some great receivers, comprom absolute Yeah. Wow,

1115
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: that's an impressive, impressive style. I mean some pretty big

1116
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: names on that list too, and so good on St.

1117
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: Saint Brown. But I think that's gonna be a key one.

1118
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: Could he have just as much success as he did

1119
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: last week? And you know what else I love lo

1120
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: him is the way they got him to football right,

1121
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: going back to lining him up in the backfield doing

1122
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: some of the jet sweep stuff. I mean that's important, right, absolutely,

1123
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: t T. And I say that on our radio broadcast.

1124
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: I just love what Ben Johnson does with him because,

1125
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: like you say, you never know where he's going to

1126
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: be at, and that's so much pressure that you're putting

1127
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: on the defense trying to identify where he is, if

1128
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: he's going in motion, who goes in motion with him,

1129
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: when he's in the backfield lined up, who's responsible We're

1130
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: gonna put the linebacker on him just in case he

1131
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: goes out on the path. It's just so many things

1132
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: that he does to kind of put your defense in

1133
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: the predicament or make your defense make decisions. And I

1134
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: and like I said, he never complains. And the most

1135
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: important thing to me now for Jared is to have

1136
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: a guy like him, because you know, with t J.

1137
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: Hockinson being gone, a guy, right you're tight end normally

1138
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: works the middle of the field, works down the hashmar

1139
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: Now with Amar Ross Saint Brown, I see they do

1140
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: that with him. They worked the middle of the field,

1141
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: they worked the hashes with him, and of course they

1142
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: worked the sidelines with him. So you're right, t T.

1143
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: I think right now. Even out of Josh Reynolds, we

1144
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: know they've been heard and trendity and all those guys.

1145
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: I think a Mara Ross Saint Brown, I think he

1146
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: is the guy for Jared Golf. Great stuff long oh yeah, yeah, man, man, hey,

1147
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: that's how we do it here. We chop it up

1148
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: like that. I love it. Man. That was great stuff

1149
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: and so obviously big matchup this week. You know, lines

1150
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: are trying to get three in a row. You know,

1151
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: I think legitimate, legitimate, legitimize themselves a little bit too.

1152
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: You know. You know, you win three in a row,

1153
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: you win two on the row. But this is a

1154
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: team very much in the playoff picture and playing some

1155
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: pretty good football. So you know, I think you get

1156
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: this one. You say, okay, I think Dan Campbell and

1157
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: these guys are certainly headed in the right attraction. I

1158
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: think I think that anyways, but I think that maybe

1159
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 1: lets the country know there you go. Okay, And obviously

1160
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,919
Speaker 1: New York is trying to get to eight and two,

1161
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: stay close to Philadelphia and continue to be in the

1162
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: playoff picture. So look, it'll be a great one in

1163
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: New York on Sunday. We'll see if the Lions get

1164
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: three in a row. Loan good stuff you