Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed.
Speaker 2: It's spooky.
Speaker 1: Hey jooky, I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, Hey, I'm goosted.
Speaker 4: Hiro dressed.
Speaker 1: Hey boo, it's me it Roz. Oh, it's my favorite
Speaker 1: time of the month. Time for a listener phone Call Extravaganza.
Speaker 1: Well today we've got some great stories for you, and
Speaker 1: we've got a pretty long clip on Patreon this week.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stories here. We got Audrey telling
Speaker 1: a story about a spirit that had been attached to
Speaker 1: her as a child. I've also got a story that
Speaker 1: is on the Patreon this week from Katie who worked
Speaker 1: at a haunted theater, and Stephanie has a story about
Speaker 1: a ghost in a pool which should be off limits
Speaker 1: for ghosts, but very fascinating story. So go check that
Speaker 1: out on my second tier patroonpatron dot com slash Roz
Speaker 1: jez Velez. Also, there's a link in the description of
Speaker 1: this episode. Okay, here we go, the twenty sixth Listener
Speaker 1: Phone Call Extravaganza on with the show Oh my God.
Speaker 1: I am joined by Audrey, who is in Los Angeles. Hi, Ajie,
Speaker 1: how are you Hi?
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 1: I am great, and I'm so excited to talk to
Speaker 1: you because you live in one of the most interesting
Speaker 1: parts of Los Angeles. You live in Benedict Canyon, which
Speaker 1: I want to say has come up on this podcast.
Speaker 1: You know when it's probably come up on this podcast
Speaker 1: is early on Ooh, you'd have to go back into
Speaker 1: the archives when I had on David Ohm who yes
Speaker 1: on Celo Drive, you know, right next to where the
Speaker 1: unfortunate Manson murder, Sharon Tate murder occurred, and we probably
Speaker 1: talked about Benedict Kenye. It's something that I talk about
Speaker 1: often with people because it's known for being cursed. Have
Speaker 1: you heard about this?
Speaker 2: I wish I knew this before I bought the house.
Speaker 5: I didn't purtune you together.
Speaker 2: I knew things happened. I knew the Tate murders, but
Speaker 2: I didn't know where that was in Los Angeles until
Speaker 2: I did research and I could actually walk to David
Speaker 2: Omen's house.
Speaker 5: It's not that far.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, you know, if you believe, and occurs,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, it's just something that people say
Speaker 1: and they have said for a long time, just because
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of unfortunate events that have taken
Speaker 1: place there. And when we talked to David, he was
Speaker 1: talking about the science y aspect of it, having to
Speaker 1: do with the electromagnetic waves, and right.
Speaker 2: You, I've heard different stories that I honestly don't understand.
Speaker 2: I think I've heard like it's on a landline, which
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is, or like some Native
Speaker 2: American curse on the canyon.
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure, right, yeah, but there's just there
Speaker 1: has been I mean, anyone listening to this, if you
Speaker 1: want to look it up, there's been like a lot
Speaker 1: of murders and you know, like a lot of kind
Speaker 1: of high end like movie star deaths and mysterious kind
Speaker 1: of a lot of that has happened since, like I mean,
Speaker 1: it's long, I don't know, a long time. So uh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a mysterious place to say the least.
Speaker 1: But now, what is your experience living there?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 2: So I found this house like fifteen years ago when
Speaker 2: I got lost and I pulled over and I happened
Speaker 2: to pull over in front of this house. So fast
Speaker 2: forward a few more years it was for sale and but.
Speaker 1: What do you mean you're lost trying to find something?
Speaker 1: And then you're like, ooh.
Speaker 2: I was visiting her friend's house and she lives around
Speaker 2: here where she used to live around here. And it
Speaker 2: was back in the day when you didn't have your
Speaker 2: smartphone and you had to print out the directions at
Speaker 2: home and then follow them in the car.
Speaker 1: Oh, map quest, map quest.
Speaker 5: It was map quest days. So I got lost up
Speaker 5: here and I didn't know where to go. I was overwhelmed.
Speaker 2: I couldn't have I didn't have any cell service, so
Speaker 2: I pulled over and I just happened to pull over
Speaker 2: in front of what my house is now. And it
Speaker 2: was just like I was so attracted to this house,
Speaker 2: and like a creep, I would come visit the house
Speaker 2: for years. I would drive by it because it just
Speaker 2: I was so attracted to it for some reason. It's
Speaker 2: not the nicest looking house either. It's like a weird
Speaker 2: cottage surrounded by like these nicer homes. But if I
Speaker 2: really came for sale, I put an offer on it,
Speaker 2: even though I couldn't afford it, and they somehow accepted it.
Speaker 5: I moved in and.
Speaker 2: Then later learned that the woman who lived here before
Speaker 2: me was also named Audrey, and she died in the house.
Speaker 2: So I don't know how is that anything to do
Speaker 2: with how I got the house? But I had a
Speaker 2: weird attraction to it for years, and somehow I got
Speaker 2: it when I lived here.
Speaker 1: So is Audrey hanging around.
Speaker 5: Or what I think?
Speaker 2: So it was pretty peaceful for like the first couple
Speaker 2: of months, and then I did renovations with the house,
Speaker 2: which now I know, when you do renovations on a house,
Speaker 2: it can't upset any spirits that live here. So I
Speaker 2: started to feel like someone was watching me. I would
Speaker 2: smell perfume like in a construction zone. I would smell
Speaker 2: cigarettes at night when I was alone in here and
Speaker 2: things would be moved around. I would ask the construction
Speaker 2: guys like, oh, we don't go in this room. So
Speaker 2: I kept he and seeing things that I could not explain,
Speaker 2: and it was like an unwelcoming feeling.
Speaker 5: For a while.
Speaker 2: And then I contacted a psychic and so so she
Speaker 2: told me, oh, someone's in here.
Speaker 5: She used to live here.
Speaker 2: She's upset that you're here. She thinks you're ruining her house.
Speaker 2: So she suggested that I talk to her, like, talk
Speaker 2: to her like she was in the room, and tell
Speaker 2: her my intentions. I'm not here to ruin her house.
Speaker 2: She can stays she wants, but I bring her no harm.
Speaker 2: So after that, to this day, I still feel her,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't feel so scary anymore. But so that's
Speaker 2: on her. But I think the scariest thing that's happened,
Speaker 2: and this is what I think Benedet Canning has to
Speaker 2: do with it. So I was starting to feel like
Speaker 2: there was a male energy. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: had anyone.
Speaker 6: Tell you that.
Speaker 2: Some how you can tell if it's a female or
Speaker 2: if it's a male energy around. So one night I
Speaker 2: woke up in the middle night and there was a
Speaker 2: man sitting at the corner of my bed. What yeah,
Speaker 2: And he was very angry. He was in an army jacket.
Speaker 2: My dogs were terrified, and he was just sitting there
Speaker 2: stared at me. So by the time I go to
Speaker 2: turn on the light, he's gone. Two days later, I
Speaker 2: see him again. Well, I'm getting ready for bed, like
Speaker 2: in the back in the in the mirror in back
Speaker 2: of me.
Speaker 1: Oh that is some horror movie shit right there.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, I can't stay here anymore. I
Speaker 2: can't stay here tonight. But no one was picking up
Speaker 2: their phone. I don't know where to go. That night,
Speaker 2: it was ready late, so I went to sleep. Middle
Speaker 2: of the night, my dogs were barking like crazy. They
Speaker 2: were barking at something in the dining room, and so
Speaker 2: I went to go checked and they were like in
Speaker 2: a trance. They were barking at nothing and they would
Speaker 2: not be quiet. And usually when I tell him to
Speaker 2: stop barking, they stopped barking. They didn't stop barking. So
Speaker 2: I went down to pick them up, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, it felt like someone pushed me as back
Speaker 2: as hard as they could, and then I hit my
Speaker 2: head on my dining table, split my head open, and
Speaker 2: it felt like yeah, and it felt like there was
Speaker 2: someone in the dining room with me when I hit
Speaker 2: my head, So I believe it was that guy who
Speaker 2: I saw the last the previous night.
Speaker 1: Okay, is he back right now? Because I heard that
Speaker 1: dog yelpin.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know he's not back.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not sure he might be because they
Speaker 2: bark at random things.
Speaker 1: So whatever happened to him.
Speaker 2: After that, I had a I guess a medium or
Speaker 2: spiritual healer come. She cleared the space, and then my
Speaker 2: overly religious mom came and like showered that she washed
Speaker 2: the table with holy water, she sprinkled it everywhere, prayed,
Speaker 2: and then I think he's gone. But I still hear
Speaker 2: and see things, but I think it's the previous owner,
Speaker 2: the other Audrey. I don't think that guy's here anymore.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, who is the guy?
Speaker 2: I was told by a psydkick that he was like
Speaker 2: an angry Vietnam Vet, and he, I guess passed away
Speaker 2: from drugs. I don't know if he lived here. I
Speaker 2: don't know his connection to the house. I tried to
Speaker 2: do research. I couldn't find anything about him, but apparently
Speaker 2: he was very angry and he didn't want me here.
Speaker 2: I don't know what his connection to the house is though.
Speaker 1: Strange God, I wonder if the other Audrey had to
Speaker 1: deal with him.
Speaker 5: I don't know, you know.
Speaker 2: I asked my neighbor, my current Neighbritain. They lived next
Speaker 2: to her for a few years. They said she was
Speaker 2: very sweet, but she was very odd. Like she would
Speaker 2: she would have the house lights on twenty four hours
Speaker 2: of a day, and she would always keep her curtains
Speaker 2: open some no matter what TIMEY passed by her house,
Speaker 2: you could see right in her house four I am.
Speaker 2: All the lights were on, so maybe she was scared
Speaker 2: too that maybe she's maybe she saw things or I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, she's probably haunting you because she's like, that's that
Speaker 1: lady that used to.
Speaker 2: Creep from my house.
Speaker 6: My house.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she used to watch weed like the cree She's
Speaker 5: getting me back for all those years I fought her.
Speaker 1: I think the most spectacular part of this story is
Speaker 1: that you live in LA and you talk to your neighbors.
Speaker 1: Oh right, I don't know any of my names.
Speaker 2: I tried to avoid them, but I was very curious
Speaker 2: about this woman. So I had to ask someone.
Speaker 1: So, what how often would you say things you know
Speaker 1: happen nowadays there that you sense Audrey.
Speaker 2: Pretty often? I'd probably say a couple of times in
Speaker 2: a month.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So.
Speaker 2: I think she was a smoker, and we're very strong
Speaker 2: perfume because I feel like she's around. It's like a
Speaker 2: big whiff of cigarette smoking perfume passes by and it
Speaker 2: gets very cold in here, and then like things start
Speaker 2: to not malfunction new like new appliance will malfunction when
Speaker 2: I feel like she's around, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: the work again.
Speaker 1: That's perfume. And cigarettes like go hand in hand because
Speaker 1: I think I'm a former smoker and I feel like
Speaker 1: when you're smoker, you're like, Oh, if I just spray
Speaker 1: a bunch of perfume, no one will ever, I'll never
Speaker 1: suspects a thing. Oh well, this is interesting. Have you
Speaker 1: thought about doing I don't know, another seance or having
Speaker 1: someone else come in or is it pretty peaceful? Would
Speaker 1: you say, for the most.
Speaker 5: Part, is pretty peaceful.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of nervous to push it because that guy
Speaker 2: who I think pushed me into the table came after
Speaker 2: I had a psychic come in, so I don't know
Speaker 2: if it upset the energy in here or maybe me
Speaker 2: searching for something brought something up, don't I don't know
Speaker 2: if I just leave it how it is because I
Speaker 2: feel okay for the most part.
Speaker 1: Was this the psychic that picked up on him?
Speaker 2: Yes, but I was after like he came and visited
Speaker 2: me in bed and then, uh what, I think he
Speaker 2: pushed me, but I'm not sure I was.
Speaker 1: You've never seen the woman.
Speaker 2: I've heard her, like a woman's voice.
Speaker 1: What did she say?
Speaker 5: I'll always hear.
Speaker 2: Like like, I'm like, is that my mother?
Speaker 5: Is my mother?
Speaker 7: Here?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 2: But no, one's ever here. So I just think, oh
Speaker 2: my god, am I going crazy? But it's always like
Speaker 2: a whispering voice, like a older woman, and I hear.
Speaker 1: Is she talking about you or her?
Speaker 5: I don't know. I hope it's that woman. I hope
Speaker 5: it's not like something else that I have to deal with,
Speaker 5: but I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've seen her, but I have heard
Speaker 2: her and I've smelled her.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, well this is god. Hey do
Speaker 1: you want to hear a ghost voice?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 5: Okay, absolutely, it's that for EV.
Speaker 1: Or ev pase. Okay, so you know how this works?
Speaker 1: What do YouTube? I find EV be electronic voice phenomenal,
Speaker 1: and you know this is this is what people believe
Speaker 1: as a ghost speaking. And I'm gonna play it for
Speaker 1: you and we're gonna guess what this ghost is saying. Now,
Speaker 1: this one, I will say, there's a little bit of
Speaker 1: Usually I don't choose them like this, but I found
Speaker 1: this one kind of interesting. But there was there's I
Speaker 1: try to get them pretty clean, you know, like just
Speaker 1: when it's kind of quiet and then a ghost talks.
Speaker 1: But I mean you kind of get what you get
Speaker 1: when you're recording ghosts and In this one, there's people.
Speaker 1: They are kind of talking and you can hear the
Speaker 1: ghost like cut in for a second, so you'll have
Speaker 1: to like really really tune into it. But it's a
Speaker 1: ghost kind of yelling something in the background. Of course
Speaker 1: it's a quick little clip. But here, I'll play it
Speaker 1: and then we'll talk about it. All right, what's this
Speaker 1: ghost saying?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: It's the one in the background that's like no, na.
Speaker 2: Wait, so there's a there's a woman and then there's
Speaker 2: a ghost in the background.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, So I play it again. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like there's like a beat, like someone says something and
Speaker 1: then it's like no, nah, and then they say something again.
Speaker 1: But but we're listening for that. Na Okay, here it is.
Speaker 1: You hear what I'm talking about?
Speaker 5: Are they saying no?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 4: Or mom?
Speaker 5: I don't know?
Speaker 1: Okay, am I played again?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 5: Wait now here get lost? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I hear two syllables. I think get lost. Ooh that's good, get.
Speaker 5: Lost, get lost away? Oh.
Speaker 1: I didn't even say where this came from. This is
Speaker 1: from NJ dot com New Jersey dot com, I believe
Speaker 1: NJ dot com And it's at a place called the
Speaker 1: Emmlin Psychic Estate in Cape May, New Jersey. Okay, so
Speaker 1: here's some options. Do they think it says, hey, it's mine?
Speaker 1: Is it B bring back Vine? Do you remember Vine
Speaker 1: a simple time before? TikTok? Maybe it's a ghost of
Speaker 1: a Vine star.
Speaker 5: Maybe is it C I'm fine or.
Speaker 1: D Chris Pine? Okay, let's play it again. What do
Speaker 1: you hear?
Speaker 2: I keep hearing get left, but I'm gonna go I'm fine.
Speaker 1: They believe it's it's mine. I don't know what they're
Speaker 1: referring to, but let's hear it again now that we
Speaker 1: know that, well, I could hear it. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It could be a lot of things. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just like too loud syllables, but that's what they say.
Speaker 2: Can I ask a question? Whenever you look up EVPs online,
Speaker 2: do you ever get spooped out being at home after?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, especially because so many of them are
Speaker 1: just no offense to anyone that's out there looking for it,
Speaker 1: but like not great, like I I'll be. I'll spend
Speaker 1: literally sometimes hours trying to find two EVPs that are
Speaker 1: like decent, and I'll find I listen to so many
Speaker 1: that are just bad. There are a lot of times
Speaker 1: people edit them. I think they're trying to make it
Speaker 1: sound better, but it just like makes it sound robotic
Speaker 1: and weird. There's just a lot of different ways that
Speaker 1: it can sound bad. So then after hearing a bunch
Speaker 1: of those, then when I find like the one, that's
Speaker 1: when I get real creeped out where I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: oh damn, I think that was like a real like
Speaker 1: that that actually sounded like something creepy, right.
Speaker 2: I Usually I cannot listen to them in the house.
Speaker 5: I get freaked down.
Speaker 2: I can't be here.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean because you also have someone whispering
Speaker 1: your name.
Speaker 5: Are someone's around?
Speaker 1: Well, Audrey, I guess that's about it for this time.
Speaker 1: But keep me updated on your your friend, your roommate.
Speaker 5: My roommate, Audrey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, it was so great talking to you.
Speaker 1: You too, Keep in touch. I've been ghosted too. I
Speaker 1: am joined by Rob in Indiana. Hello, Rob? How are you?
Speaker 6: I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 1: I am great? I I am especially curious to talk
Speaker 1: to you after what I was reading what you sent me.
Speaker 1: You have encountered the black Eyed children, I believe so.
Speaker 1: And we're not talking about Fergie and will I am.
Speaker 1: We are talking about the Black Eyed Children, which we've
Speaker 1: talked about on the show a little bit. I know
Speaker 1: that the Black Eyed Children are a paranormal podcast favorite.
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of people talk about them. I
Speaker 1: haven't heard from very many people that have encountered them.
Speaker 1: I think one time on the show, Bonnie McKee, the
Speaker 1: singer songwriter, when she was on, she had an experience
Speaker 1: that I kind of speculated like, maybe that was a
Speaker 1: black Eyed Children scenario.
Speaker 6: Remember that episode?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but now I want to hear about your experience. Okay,
Speaker 1: So what happened?
Speaker 8: So I didn't really realize what it was until after
Speaker 8: I heard a podcast about black Eyed Children because I
Speaker 8: had never heard of them, so when it happened, I
Speaker 8: didn't really put it together. But essentially what happened was
Speaker 8: I had just moved into my new apartment in Indianapolis.
Speaker 8: I was there for about a week and I was
Speaker 8: just sitting there and I heard a knock on my door,
Speaker 8: and so I went to it. And I was in
Speaker 8: not the greatest part of Indianapolis, so I didn't just
Speaker 8: open it right up, but I looked at my people
Speaker 8: and there were two individuals, young people. They were turned
Speaker 8: kind of to the side facing each other. They wanted
Speaker 8: to sell me magazines, which I thought was strange, and
Speaker 8: they had a really strange way of speaking. It was
Speaker 8: very kind of monotone and very rehearsed performative in a
Speaker 8: weird way.
Speaker 6: And at first I was like, Okay, it's just some kids.
Speaker 8: But then they started trying to get into the apartment,
Speaker 8: which really bothered me, and they would say weird things.
Speaker 1: Had you opened the door at this point.
Speaker 8: No, I was still looking at my people talking to them.
Speaker 8: I did not want to open the door because I
Speaker 8: was getting a very strange feeling from what was happening.
Speaker 1: Whow So what were they What were they saying?
Speaker 8: Well, first they wanted to sell me magazines, and then
Speaker 8: they just said it, kept asking if they could come in.
Speaker 8: And the part where it really kind of made me
Speaker 8: think something was odd was one of them said, can
Speaker 8: we come in for a nice cool glass of water?
Speaker 8: Like that was literally what they said, and I thought,
Speaker 8: we lot, it's not something people would say.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 8: It really kind of freaked me out, and so I
Speaker 8: stopped responding and they kept knocking on the door.
Speaker 1: I feel like if you put adjectives in front of
Speaker 1: something like that you're an alien.
Speaker 6: Or something very weird, and say can I.
Speaker 1: Have some water? You don't say nice cool?
Speaker 8: Yeah, And it was very that much came. It was like,
Speaker 8: can we come in for some nice cool water?
Speaker 1: No? No, no.
Speaker 8: And I'm a teacher. I've talked to teenagers many, many times.
Speaker 8: Teenagers don't talk like that. It's just not something that
Speaker 8: is usual. So well, I kept trying to get a
Speaker 8: good look at them. They were definitely young people, and
Speaker 8: they were turned to the.
Speaker 6: Side of me.
Speaker 8: I couldn't really see their faces, but when one of
Speaker 8: them turned, I couldn't really see what was going on
Speaker 8: in their eyes. I'm not going to say it was
Speaker 8: black necessarily, but I definitely couldn't see clear definition in
Speaker 8: their eyes because they wouldn't.
Speaker 6: Face the door.
Speaker 8: So after a while they went away, eventually after I
Speaker 8: very kind of defiantly told them to leave, and then
Speaker 8: a couple I think it was a year or so later,
Speaker 8: I listened to a podcast and somebody started talking about
Speaker 8: black eyed children and I thought, oh my god, that
Speaker 8: sounds eerily similar to what happened at my apartment, just
Speaker 8: the way they spoke and their persistence in wanting to
Speaker 8: come inside for kind of no reason. It really bothered
Speaker 8: me after it happened.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So basically the story. As far as I know,
Speaker 1: it's been a couple It's been maybe a year or
Speaker 1: so since the last time I got into black eyed children.
Speaker 1: But it's like, they knock on your door, they really
Speaker 1: want to get inside. They have black eyes, they usually
Speaker 1: have some kind of they give people a feeling of dread,
Speaker 1: and they seem to be just like children, their teens
Speaker 1: or whatever. And I'm always unsure about what happens if
Speaker 1: you let them in. Me too, you don't want to
Speaker 1: find out.
Speaker 6: Apparently they did not find out Whoa.
Speaker 1: They were kind of magazines they were selling.
Speaker 8: When they weren't holding anything, which is also it gave
Speaker 8: me a little bit of pause. They didn't have anything
Speaker 8: with them, like to write things down, and I was like, well,
Speaker 8: how are you going to remember who you're selling?
Speaker 6: Magazine? It was just very strange.
Speaker 1: When was this.
Speaker 6: This would have been twenty ten.
Speaker 1: Okay, so magazines were still kind of a thing at
Speaker 1: though they were still.
Speaker 8: Because I worked for the Canadian phone Book at the time,
Speaker 8: so Prince was still fairly alive on its way out,
Speaker 8: but no WHOA.
Speaker 1: So then never again. You never saw them again.
Speaker 8: Setting, Yeah, it was very unsettling, and I didn't put
Speaker 8: it together until after I heard somebody talk about it,
Speaker 8: because I never heard of these children before, but it
Speaker 8: was it was They definitely gave off.
Speaker 6: A really odd vibe.
Speaker 8: That was you could you know, sometimes when you meet
Speaker 8: people or something happens, you're like, I definitely shouldn't engage
Speaker 8: with that.
Speaker 6: That's the vibe they were giving off to me.
Speaker 1: So whoa, Yeah, I mean that's interesting that you didn't
Speaker 1: open the door. I mean good, but you must have
Speaker 1: really felt I'm kind of vibe.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they were not giving off a friendly type of energy,
Speaker 8: and it was just strange the way they spoke and
Speaker 8: their cadence and it's kind of hard to describe the
Speaker 8: way they spoke, but it had no like motion behind
Speaker 8: it in a way, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 6: They just really wanted to get inside the apartment.
Speaker 1: That is so creepy. I think anytime somebody knocks on
Speaker 1: my door. It recently happened, which it doesn't happen often,
Speaker 1: and it happened at nighttime, somebody knocked on my door
Speaker 1: and it was terrifying. But yeah, to add all of
Speaker 1: that ooh, I'm counting it. That is a black eyed
Speaker 1: children's story. I'm counting it.
Speaker 8: And even if, like you said, it wasn't necessarily them,
Speaker 8: it was still creepy.
Speaker 1: But I just the nice cold water of it, that's that's. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's like you know, of course, no one knows,
Speaker 1: but people theorize that it's they could be aliens, they
Speaker 1: could be you know, it could be a lot of
Speaker 1: different things.
Speaker 6: I saw an interesting thing.
Speaker 8: People theorize that it's like children who have committed violent
Speaker 8: acts turning into black eyed children.
Speaker 6: I thought, oh gosh, oh, I hope that's not the case.
Speaker 1: They have to sell magazines for eternity.
Speaker 6: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially nowadays, that would be a real tough task.
Speaker 6: That would be a real hard thing to accomplish.
Speaker 1: A fear. Well, tell me some more stuff.
Speaker 6: The only that apartment was really weird.
Speaker 8: I never saw anything there, but you know how apartments
Speaker 8: can be with people's energy all around, if you believe
Speaker 8: in energy. But the other thing that I have that
Speaker 8: I saw any concrete visuals was so in Indiana from
Speaker 8: where I'm from, there's an urban legend called Moody Road,
Speaker 8: which you know, lots of places have these urban legends,
Speaker 8: but this one was you got to this road where
Speaker 8: supposedly a man killed some people who did something to
Speaker 8: his daughter, and he's searching for the other member, you know,
Speaker 8: as stories go. But you go out there, you park,
Speaker 8: you flash your lights three times, and then you turn your.
Speaker 6: Car off and you wait for this light to appear.
Speaker 6: So we go out there. It's in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 8: It's just a cornfield in front of you. If you
Speaker 8: got there in the daytime, it's nothing out there. So
Speaker 8: we went out there and it was me and just
Speaker 8: a few friends. We were in our teens, and we
Speaker 8: flicked our lights three times, and sure enough, out of nowhere,
Speaker 8: this orb light comes across the field and it just
Speaker 8: kind of travels back and forth, back and forth, and
Speaker 8: up and down. It gets a little bit closer the
Speaker 8: longer you sit there and wait. But nobody knows what
Speaker 8: it is. It's unexplained if you look it up. There's
Speaker 8: been researchers that come out to the area and they
Speaker 8: can't find out or figure out what it is. It's
Speaker 8: a very strange phenomenon, and it's another kind of unsettling
Speaker 8: thing because you don't really know what it is. It
Speaker 8: could be paranormal, it could be natural. Nobody knows. So
Speaker 8: I've been out there a couple times. They have since
Speaker 8: taken down the sign and stuff because of people going
Speaker 8: out there too much and disturbing people that actually.
Speaker 6: Live on the road because it's like a gravel road.
Speaker 1: So I always want to hear from the people that
Speaker 1: live in these areas, you know, like this is always
Speaker 1: It's always a thing with these urban legend kind of places.
Speaker 1: There's always neighbors that complain or whatever, but like, what
Speaker 1: is your life like?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 8: And it's interesting because I went out there three or
Speaker 8: four times during my youth, and the first time I
Speaker 8: went out there, there was nobody out there.
Speaker 6: The second time went out there, there was a house there.
Speaker 8: The third time they had put out a big flood
Speaker 8: light security light to kind of wash everything out so
Speaker 8: you couldn't see.
Speaker 6: The fourth time they had taken the sign down and.
Speaker 8: There were police that would wait on the road so
Speaker 8: that if people came down they would tell them to leave.
Speaker 6: After the police told us to leave.
Speaker 8: One year, we never went back because we figured these
Speaker 8: people do not want people out here.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're like it's our ghost, yes a way,
Speaker 1: what town is this.
Speaker 8: In so it's the closest town is a town called
Speaker 8: rinse Leer, but it's just out in the middle of
Speaker 8: no whe where, and it's called Moody Road because the
Speaker 8: guy that lived on it is supposedly is searching for
Speaker 8: the murderers of his daughter. He never found the third one,
Speaker 8: so that's apparently what he's searching for is the legend
Speaker 8: that I always heard. There's variations upon it, but it's
Speaker 8: essentially boils down to that.
Speaker 1: So well, corn fields alone are terrifying. I did not
Speaker 1: grow up in corn country. And when I was driving
Speaker 1: through the country last year and I ended up in
Speaker 1: Nebraska and my GPS was really not doing I was
Speaker 1: trying to find a Mexican restaurant and I ended up
Speaker 1: finding it, but it was it had broccoli, and it
Speaker 1: was a whole it's a whole other story, but either way,
Speaker 1: I was trying to find this Mexican restaurant and I
Speaker 1: ended up in a cornfield, and I was terrified.
Speaker 8: They are terrifying. I grew up around them. You never
Speaker 8: know what's in there.
Speaker 1: Makes me think of signs, the movie signs See Little Alien.
Speaker 8: Leg Yeah, I've had many people pop out of cornfields
Speaker 8: thinking it's funny to scare you. It's not funny, it's
Speaker 8: just scary.
Speaker 6: You are not wrong to fear a cornfield. I feel
Speaker 6: like you're justified.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I feel malandated. Well, Rob, you gave us
Speaker 1: our first ever black eyed children's story on this pod,
Speaker 1: and you'll go down in history for that. And I'm
Speaker 1: honored because this was great.
Speaker 6: Well, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 6: I bring them into existence again.
Speaker 2: For me.
Speaker 1: Else, don't answer your door exactly.
Speaker 6: I just say, do not answer your door to strangers.
Speaker 6: Always good advice.
Speaker 4: There's a ghost in my house.
Speaker 1: I'm joined by Katie and Central California. Hi Katie, how
Speaker 1: are you?
Speaker 5: I'm good? Thanks for that. How about you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing great.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's come to my attention that ghosts love you and
Speaker 1: I'm excited to hear all about it. Where where should
Speaker 1: we start?
Speaker 5: I think I can start with the mission in uh
Speaker 5: in my town. I'm in a mission town. It's kind
Speaker 5: of like centralized around around one of those uh those
Speaker 5: California missions. So so yeah, I can I can just
Speaker 5: launch right in. I guess yeah, yeah, yeah, so I
Speaker 5: guess it's because it starts off I was in fourth grade.
Speaker 5: And we did a field trip here. I hadn't lived
Speaker 5: here yet, and and we went to not necessarily the
Speaker 5: mission proper, but there's like a little courtyard and I'm
Speaker 5: right across from it. There's there's an old house where
Speaker 5: where people used to live in the eighteen hundreds, and
Speaker 5: we were in that part of the tour, and near
Speaker 5: the end of a house there's like this little girl's room,
Speaker 5: like they had everything set up like someone's living there
Speaker 5: in the eighteen hundreds. So it's like there's like a
Speaker 5: little crib and like toys on the floor and stuff,
Speaker 5: so fun and creepy. And so I'm there and I
Speaker 5: just like I get super unsettled. And I heard like
Speaker 5: like this like music box music, and I was like,
Speaker 5: it's weird that they would put that as like ambiance,
Speaker 5: Like they're trying to make this creepy. So, like, you know,
Speaker 5: my mom was a chaperone, and I was kind of
Speaker 5: telling her like no, I want to leave, like I
Speaker 5: don't like it here, and she's like okay. So then
Speaker 5: when when we got out, and she's like, what didn't
Speaker 5: you like about it? Because like my mom is also
Speaker 5: really my mom's actually probably more sensitive than I am.
Speaker 5: She's super like in tune. And so she like, what
Speaker 5: what was it that that kind of sets you off
Speaker 5: that you didn't like? And I said, I didn't like
Speaker 5: the music box music they're playing, and she said there
Speaker 5: was no music, and so then I like, I asked around,
Speaker 5: I asked my friends and everything. They're like, no, no music.
Speaker 5: That was all apparently in my head, and so I
Speaker 5: kind of wrote it off. I mean, like as much
Speaker 5: as like, I still was like, Okay, I'm never going
Speaker 5: back there again, but then I end up going back
Speaker 5: when I'm about I think it was like somewhere between
Speaker 5: fifteen and nineteen, I was, I was a teenager and
Speaker 5: and I I did a show across the so across
Speaker 5: the courtyard from that in the in the mission itself
Speaker 5: in the church, and and I was waiting to go
Speaker 5: on with UH with a girl who was who was
Speaker 5: also in the show with me, and and she's she
Speaker 5: goes like, oh man, it's so weird that they're like
Speaker 5: they changed up the music didn't bay for the show.
Speaker 5: And I thought, like, I'm trying to listen, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 5: maybe the violin's a little off or something. I don't know.
Speaker 5: And I said, well, well, what do you hear? And
Speaker 5: she said, like, it's like a music box. Ah yeah,
Speaker 5: and it was it. So I asked her later, like
Speaker 5: I tried to figure out how old she was, and
Speaker 5: she was basically the same age that I was when
Speaker 5: I heard the music box in uh in the house
Speaker 5: across the way. I think it was like eleven. It
Speaker 5: was fourth grade basically, and and so then so then
Speaker 5: you know, like thoroughly creeped out by that space. And
Speaker 5: uh So then later on a few years later, I'm
Speaker 5: working taking tickets for that same show in the box office,
Speaker 5: and the place that they put the box office it's
Speaker 5: facing that house. So we're counting my and stuff. It's
Speaker 5: like it's late, it's like ten pm, and and my
Speaker 5: friend kind of like taps me on the shoulder. She's like,
Speaker 5: do you see a face in that window? And so
Speaker 5: I look and again, like it all lines up. It's
Speaker 5: all that same room. Basically, I look in the window
Speaker 5: and I see a lit like yeah, like looking out
Speaker 5: and like we're we're at this point, like we're like, okay,
Speaker 5: let's not let's not engage, Like we go back to
Speaker 5: the money. We look again, that little girl still looking out,
Speaker 5: and then just it's just finally like gosh, ten minutes
Speaker 5: after I didn't like something like that, then it's finally gone.
Speaker 5: But there's no way that there could have been a
Speaker 5: little girl in that house, Like it's completely locked, all
Speaker 5: the lights are off, like it's ten pm. We would
Speaker 5: have seen somebody go in there, Like, there's no way
Speaker 5: that there was anybody in that house. It's a museum there.
Speaker 5: So so yeah, that's yeah. So that's the little like
Speaker 5: saga of the little Girl. I also found out like
Speaker 5: oh god. And then in the middle of that, I
Speaker 5: was taking kids on a field trip there and they
Speaker 5: wanted to go into that house, and so I was like, Okay, fine,
Speaker 5: we're going to go in. And uh and when I
Speaker 5: go in, going down the hallway that leads to that room,
Speaker 5: I started to feel like basically what you feel like
Speaker 5: when you get a fever, like really shaky and weak
Speaker 5: and like almost like I was going to throw up,
Speaker 5: really hot, and I was like I can't do this,
Speaker 5: like I and yeah, so I had to give give
Speaker 5: it over to the other teachers, to the other counselors
Speaker 5: to kind of like, Okay, you guys have to take this.
Speaker 5: I have to I have to leave this house. And
Speaker 5: when I go out, then I find out that my
Speaker 5: friend who was also working with me, it's already out there,
Speaker 5: and she said I couldn't go in there. I felt
Speaker 5: like I was going to throw up, and we both
Speaker 5: felt better after like five minutes of just sitting outside.
Speaker 5: But yeah, but one of the things is that house
Speaker 5: was apparently a lot of people died of smallpox in
Speaker 5: that house. So I found that out or I yeah,
Speaker 5: I found that out a little bit after the symptoms,
Speaker 5: and so now I'm kind of like, oh, okay, like
Speaker 5: message loud and clear. People are sick here. So yeah, do.
Speaker 1: People talk about seeing a little girl or the music box?
Speaker 1: Like have you heard that from other people?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've heard so many things about that house. About
Speaker 5: the attic apparently, like there's things in the attic that
Speaker 5: will get like torn up. In the actual room there,
Speaker 5: they will try to set out toys in a certain like,
Speaker 5: you know, like the way that the docents want it
Speaker 5: to be, and they will be scattered around the room
Speaker 5: like almost like someone has been playing with them and
Speaker 5: just talking to other people. Like some people like see
Speaker 5: faces in the windows, and yeah, it's it's a it's
Speaker 5: not the first time.
Speaker 1: Apparently you're like when places, historical places like that do
Speaker 1: their interior decorating or whatever to try to to try
Speaker 1: to recreate the old time periods. I wonder how that
Speaker 1: affects these ghosts, you know, Like I wonder if the
Speaker 1: ghosts are like, ah, this is not how my room looked,
Speaker 1: or if they're like into it, or I don't know,
Speaker 1: I wonder. I'm sure it could affect it in a
Speaker 1: lot of different ways.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great point. Yeah, oh my gosh. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Like when she was looking out at us, it was
Speaker 5: like it's also like we've done something a little different.
Speaker 5: So that's a that's a really interesting because us building
Speaker 5: the little ticket booth outside of there that was new.
Speaker 5: When I wonder if she was kind of like looking
Speaker 5: out like m m, this isn't this isn't the way
Speaker 5: that things have been for two hundred years.
Speaker 1: Right, like this is my front yard, Like get out
Speaker 1: of here. M my gosh. Uh what is this mission called?
Speaker 5: Uh it's a San Juan Batista.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna have to visit there. Sometimes this sounds interesting.
Speaker 5: It's it's fun, it's spooky and like, yeah, I've seen
Speaker 5: like I've seen a. I mean, like I don't know
Speaker 5: Catholic clergy very well, but like I've seen up in
Speaker 5: the choir pulpit, I've seen a priest run back and
Speaker 5: forth and then like, have somebody take me over to
Speaker 5: the stairs to there to show that nobody could be
Speaker 5: up there. I have been jogging past there and I
Speaker 5: have like solid person looking at me kind of like
Speaker 5: disapprovingly in like black robes. And then like I passed
Speaker 5: the oh god, yes, like like like again like Catholic
Speaker 5: to clergy, like like a priest or something. And then
Speaker 5: like as I passed the the the like column, like
Speaker 5: I was gonna kind of give him a look like okay, yeah, sorry,
Speaker 5: what can I do, and like he was gone. It
Speaker 5: wasn't a real person, so.
Speaker 1: Oh god, okay, a running priest A priest should never
Speaker 1: be running.
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, he was sitting.
Speaker 9: I was.
Speaker 5: I was jogging.
Speaker 1: Oh I thought you said you saw one running back
Speaker 1: and forth or something.
Speaker 5: Oh the one that was running back and forth. The yeah,
Speaker 5: there was was kind of like walking back and forth
Speaker 5: on the These are two different. I don't know, maybe
Speaker 5: it's the same priest just he changed outfits or something.
Speaker 5: But there's one that was up I don't know, I
Speaker 5: uh yeah, but like there's one like in Red that
Speaker 5: was like walking or running like it looked fast, like
Speaker 5: it was like I earned like my my head and
Speaker 5: he was kind of like gone, but like up up
Speaker 5: the stairs basically, and then like the other one was
Speaker 5: just like sitting there while I was taking a jog
Speaker 5: in the courtyard.
Speaker 1: Like so yeah, wow, have have any of these ghost
Speaker 1: hunting shows ever been there?
Speaker 5: You know, I've heard that. I mean, like it's kind
Speaker 5: of I haven't heard anything like or seen anything necessarily
Speaker 5: on TV, but I heard a rumor that that the
Speaker 5: uh oh god, now I'm forgetting the name of it,
Speaker 5: like Zach Begans and his his like yes, that they
Speaker 5: checked it out on their way to uh to Santa
Speaker 5: Cruz and like, I guess just decided not to film.
Speaker 5: But but yeah.
Speaker 1: That's all a perfect place for something like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I'm surprised, and like Virtigo was shot here,
Speaker 5: like it's a it's a spooky, fun place.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's a lot of Alfred Hitchcock, uh you know,
Speaker 1: central northern California filming location stuff. I love that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: tell me more, tell me more.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, I the other uh kind of chunk that
Speaker 5: I have is I my stepdad used to he lived
Speaker 5: on this like corner. It was like a super old house.
Speaker 5: There's super old houses here. He lived on a corner
Speaker 5: and there was like a ring of trees and then
Speaker 5: like this super duper old house and like we all
Speaker 5: used to like hang out there, like there was like
Speaker 5: just a bunch of people who would like kind of
Speaker 5: come in and out. And so one day I'm going
Speaker 5: to the bathroom and the door is locked, and uh.
Speaker 5: And I as I'm going to the bathroom, I hear
Speaker 5: like or I see and hear this jiggling of the
Speaker 5: of the the doorknob, and then I hear these two
Speaker 5: women like kind of like whispering like oh like and
Speaker 5: something that was kind of like oh, like there's someone
Speaker 5: in there or something like that. And I was thinking yeah,
Speaker 5: and like for a second, like I'm thinking like, oh,
Speaker 5: like people come in and out of here. Maybe it's
Speaker 5: like my stepdad's friends are here or something. And so
Speaker 5: like I finish, like I go out of Then the
Speaker 5: bathroom leads straight to the kitchen and there's nobody in there.
Speaker 5: The door like the front door. It's like the front
Speaker 5: door is closed. It's a super loud door, like I
Speaker 5: would have heard it. I would have heard people walking again.
Speaker 5: Old house, you hear like floorboards, like there was absolutely
Speaker 5: nobody there. Yeah, and like in that kitchen, like basically
Speaker 5: every not every woman, but like a lot of like
Speaker 5: women who were in there would say that they like
Speaker 5: hear something or that something happens to them. Not a
Speaker 5: lot of like male identifying folks like so uh so yeah,
Speaker 5: Like I like I would have crazy dreams in that house.
Speaker 5: And then uh at one point when I was in
Speaker 5: the kitchen, like after like having dreams and like all
Speaker 5: this crazy like hearing knocks on the window, I was
Speaker 5: I was like I was awake because I was sitting
Speaker 5: at the kitchen, but like I hear in my head
Speaker 5: like do you want to see what she looks like?
Speaker 5: And like I'm kind of like, oh, this is this
Speaker 5: is new, Like I've never heard this before. I'm like, yeah, okay, again,
Speaker 5: all this conversation is happening in my head and then
Speaker 5: kind of pieced together, I start to see like like
Speaker 5: a woman her face like and it's like this round
Speaker 5: face and like blonde hair and she's that like either
Speaker 5: like these like really big bags in her eyes or
Speaker 5: like running mascara, or like somebody punched her or something,
Speaker 5: and she just looked so so so sad, and like
Speaker 5: I kind of like felt that sadness and then it
Speaker 5: kind of like became too real. I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: like it's breakfast time, like I don't want to know,
Speaker 5: and so then like it's just like she just kind
Speaker 5: of goes away. But like and that's kind of not
Speaker 5: like the first time that like I've heard, like it's
Speaker 5: it's been in like dreams and stuff like I've heard
Speaker 5: like a lot of like, oh, do you want to
Speaker 5: like do you want to talk to this person? Do
Speaker 5: you do you want to see this person? And like
Speaker 5: a lot of times I'll just kind of be like nah,
Speaker 5: I'm good, but like uh but yeah.
Speaker 1: So well that's stuff that they ask for consent. Usually
Speaker 1: it's just like here's.
Speaker 5: Me, yes, right, I appreciate that a lot. Yeah, So so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that's who was jiggling the door handle.
Speaker 5: I think so because a lot of times it would
Speaker 5: like I talked to my mom and my mom had
Speaker 5: heard like women talking like that's that's that was a
Speaker 5: really frequent thing that people would say, is like just
Speaker 5: like two or three women talking and uh yeah. But
Speaker 5: then there was also like when eventually when I talked
Speaker 5: to my stepdad he was like uh or we were like, Kate,
Speaker 5: is this house haunted. He'd be like, no, it's not haunted,
Speaker 5: like and so then eventually he kind of goes like, well, yeah,
Speaker 5: but I took care of it, and we're like, wait,
Speaker 5: how did you take care of it? Like did you
Speaker 5: like yeah, like what happened? So did you smudge? Like
Speaker 5: what happened? And so apparently he when he first moved
Speaker 5: to that house, like stuff would like fly off the
Speaker 5: shelves and like stuff would like be hurled at him
Speaker 5: and stuff and uh and like he would also wake
Speaker 5: up from like really really bad dreams and stuff. Uh.
Speaker 5: But like and he just like yelled and he's like, hey,
Speaker 5: this is my house now, like get out of here.
Speaker 5: And apparently it completely stopped for him at that point.
Speaker 5: But so I've got two theories, and one is that
Speaker 5: who maybe this woman like was freaked out by him
Speaker 5: and like, you know, I've had some sort of an
Speaker 5: experience with men in the past or something and just
Speaker 5: kind of like so then like just wasn't as threatened
Speaker 5: by female presences or that like that did take care
Speaker 5: of like one entity and like the other one is
Speaker 5: just kind of like still chilling. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she she's like, God, he's no fun. Yeah, stay
Speaker 1: away from him. Yeah, And maybe that's why she's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess what I need to do is ask people
Speaker 1: from now on do you want to see me? Do
Speaker 1: you want to rather than She's like, my first approach
Speaker 1: was just to start throwing shit, and now I've learned
Speaker 1: I'll get yelled at, so now I'm gonna be nice
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 5: That's an excellent point. I had not thought of that.
Speaker 1: I love her, Yeah, yeah, yeah, And like some ghosts
Speaker 1: would be like, oh there's someone in the bathroom, let's
Speaker 1: kick this door down, and this ghost is like someone's
Speaker 1: in there, let's wait.
Speaker 5: Yeah really get you're right. Consent, consent, very very strong
Speaker 5: with those.
Speaker 4: Girl.
Speaker 5: I like her. We also found, or my mom had found,
Speaker 5: like like some things that kind of like I don't know,
Speaker 5: metaphysical type stuff, like like there was there were like
Speaker 5: like black mirrors, which like I've learned later like maybe
Speaker 5: like scrying mirrors, like maybe maybe she was kind of witchy,
Speaker 5: but yeah, or maybe something else was and like they
Speaker 5: just like kind of invited invited some some ghosts to party.
Speaker 5: But I don't know, but yeah, that's all.
Speaker 1: Whoa, well, you have brought the goods. Thank you so much, Katie.
Speaker 1: This is great. Thank you, Hello, Stephanie and Boston. How
Speaker 1: are you?
Speaker 9: I'm great?
Speaker 8: Roth?
Speaker 1: How are you so good? What kind of stories you
Speaker 1: got for me?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 4: I went to college at Mount Holyoke College, which is
Speaker 4: a liberal arts school in western Massachusetts.
Speaker 9: Very old.
Speaker 10: It's an all women's college, and it was like the
Speaker 10: first all women's college, like the first college for women
Speaker 10: in the United States. It was like built in eighteen
Speaker 10: thirty seven, and like, the buildings are very old. It
Speaker 10: has tons of history.
Speaker 7: It's got that like old university look with like the
Speaker 7: brick Gothic buildings and the dorms and the libraries that
Speaker 7: looks like castles and things.
Speaker 9: And according to folklore.
Speaker 4: Now I don't know who tallies this, but people say
Speaker 4: it's the second most haunted college in the United States.
Speaker 4: I don't know who's counting the ghosts, but apparently number
Speaker 4: one is Gettysburg College, which I guess.
Speaker 9: Makes sense because everything's so haunted out there.
Speaker 4: But I don't know Yeah, who's like tally the ghosts
Speaker 4: and the hauntings and like figuring.
Speaker 1: Out that should be the reality show. The reality show.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like there's all these competitions, the voice,
Speaker 1: there's you know, these singing competitions, cooking competitions. I want
Speaker 1: to be on the judging panel where we go to
Speaker 1: places and we determine who is the most haunted place
Speaker 1: and then make a ranking exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it was something that was like it's on
Speaker 4: their website, like they advertise it for folks who are
Speaker 4: like interested.
Speaker 1: Which really, well, that's cool that they're into it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they are.
Speaker 4: But the one thing is, as with most colleges, it
Speaker 4: can be hard to like decipher what's just like urban
Speaker 4: myth or like legend and what's true like history.
Speaker 9: So obviously there's tons of history.
Speaker 4: And the college did burn down in the nineteenth century
Speaker 4: and get rebuilt, so like lots of crazy energy. I
Speaker 4: don't know if anyone died, I don't remember, but you know,
Speaker 4: it's just got that vibe.
Speaker 1: So my first the thing is if you've been around
Speaker 1: that long, someone's died.
Speaker 4: There no way that Yeah, and there was even a
Speaker 4: dorm room that they like closed off they called it
Speaker 4: the ghost Room, and it was like in the top
Speaker 4: floor of one of the dorms, and people had all
Speaker 4: these urban legends about it, like oh, a girl kills
Speaker 4: herself in there, and then a lightning struck a tree
Speaker 4: and it was cursed the room or something, and now
Speaker 4: no one can stay in it, and I can't ever
Speaker 4: get that confirmed. Like I remember looking into it because
Speaker 4: in college I was really into this stuff and I
Speaker 4: like wanted like facts to like back it up, and
Speaker 4: I couldn't find that out. But they did close that
Speaker 4: dorm off and then they would open it for Halloween
Speaker 4: for you to go and take pictures if you wanted to.
Speaker 1: So that the story is I don't.
Speaker 9: Know, right, I mean, like I don't know.
Speaker 4: I shouldn't like go back and like go into the
Speaker 4: archives and do that like horror movie scene where you
Speaker 4: do all the research. But in terms of what happened
Speaker 4: to me my freshman year, I was in this dorm
Speaker 4: called Pearsons, which was, according to legend, helped on the
Speaker 4: site of an old cemetery.
Speaker 9: I think it actually was, but.
Speaker 4: I think that they relocated the cemetery, but like everyone was.
Speaker 9: Like, what they didn't move the bodies.
Speaker 3: Right or something, but you know, so I don't know,
Speaker 3: but that one was and there was an it was
Speaker 3: an old building, like nineteenth century like brick building, and
Speaker 3: there was another like very old little house next to
Speaker 3: it that they were currently using for.
Speaker 4: Like some of the uh it was like some offices
Speaker 4: like nearby.
Speaker 9: That was another really old house right next to it.
Speaker 9: So this one the first thing happened.
Speaker 4: To actually my my friend, but it's sort of similar
Speaker 4: to what happened to me.
Speaker 9: So they're.
Speaker 4: She has like the first week of school, so she's
Speaker 4: like just getting to know her roommate. They're like not
Speaker 4: like super close yet. They're like I'm packing and they're
Speaker 4: like getting into their rooms and stuff. And they both
Speaker 4: take naps at like the same time during the day
Speaker 4: and like literally the same time they're napping across from
Speaker 4: each other in the room. And I just talked to
Speaker 4: my friend last night to get these details correct.
Speaker 9: Okay.
Speaker 4: So she wakes up like after having an extremely creepy
Speaker 4: dream in which the main thing she can remember is
Speaker 4: somebody was walking and holding a baby and like dropped
Speaker 4: the baby and then the baby died. It's like very scary,
Speaker 4: and she was like freaked out by that. So she
Speaker 4: woke up like very suddenly, and at the exact same time,
Speaker 4: her roommate also woke up, and her roommate's like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, I just had the weirdest dream that somebody
Speaker 4: killed a baby and.
Speaker 9: It really freaked me out. I don't even have dreams
Speaker 9: during my nap. And my friend was like, uh, I
Speaker 9: also had a dream where a.
Speaker 4: Baby died, and they like they were like what, So
Speaker 4: they went through their like details and they weren't the
Speaker 4: exact same dream, but they were both dreams in which
Speaker 4: a baby died.
Speaker 1: I'm so fascinated by these kinds of stories. I've heard
Speaker 1: these before where dreams kind of sync up.
Speaker 9: I know. Okay, So then.
Speaker 4: About a week later they're researching, like we're all researching
Speaker 4: all the ghost stories.
Speaker 9: Around and apparently the old house.
Speaker 4: Here's the legend about the old house that's next to
Speaker 4: Pearson's it was called Saint Clair's Annex, is that.
Speaker 9: There was back in.
Speaker 4: The nineteenth century, like a couple there, man and a
Speaker 4: woman in a baby, and the one night, like the
Speaker 4: guy like goes crazy and kills the baby and then
Speaker 4: kills his wife and then like kills himself.
Speaker 9: Oh my god, and that's.
Speaker 4: The legend, and I we tried to figure it out
Speaker 4: if it was historical, but like it was very weird
Speaker 4: because their room was literally right next to that building
Speaker 4: and like looking over it, like they had the closest
Speaker 4: room to that building, So that was weird.
Speaker 1: Well, it could also be one of these things when
Speaker 1: you have all these stories. I mean, we're recently talking
Speaker 1: about this idea of an Aggregor on this podcast, where
Speaker 1: you know it's like after years and years and years
Speaker 1: of people telling these stories, sometimes people believe that it
Speaker 1: can kind of like manifest and come it.
Speaker 9: Can come true.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like it makes the ghost, which I totally believe.
Speaker 9: It's wild, like the things that like everyone believing.
Speaker 4: Something can make happen, but I don't, so I don't
Speaker 4: know if it's like true.
Speaker 9: But like people used to say, you could hear a.
Speaker 4: Baby crying around like that dorm. But then this one
Speaker 4: was one that happened to me in that dorm where
Speaker 4: I was just sitting in my dorm room and my
Speaker 4: roommate was sitting across from me, and we're like stundying
Speaker 4: on our beds and just.
Speaker 9: Like very very clearly and vividly.
Speaker 4: In the middle of our room not like outside our room,
Speaker 4: not above our room down or like outside anything outside
Speaker 4: the window. No, like in the middle of our room,
Speaker 4: like by my head. I hear a sigh, I hear
Speaker 4: someone go and I immediately turned and at the same
Speaker 4: time my roommate turns. It's like, did you hear that?
Speaker 4: And I'm like yeah, and she's like that wasn't you.
Speaker 4: I'm like no, She's like that was like from the
Speaker 4: middle of the room. I'm like yeah, She's like, uh okay.
Speaker 4: And I didn't even I did not get along with
Speaker 4: my roommate, like we didn't talk really. So the fact
Speaker 4: that she was like what the hell at the exact
Speaker 4: same time and we were just like, oh my god.
Speaker 4: And that was just so bizarre because it was like, spatially,
Speaker 4: there's no way that that sound came from outside of
Speaker 4: the room. So that's.
Speaker 1: Whoa.
Speaker 9: And then I had one weird ouiji board story.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's hear it.
Speaker 4: Okay, so this one is like the start of a
Speaker 4: horror movie. And I don't know why I was so dumb,
Speaker 4: but whatever. So we had we used to like be
Speaker 4: able to like sneak into the academic buildings off hours,
Speaker 4: and so since they were like these cool like castle buildings.
Speaker 4: We used to like throw parties in them. So we
Speaker 4: there's this one in the science building. There's this classroom
Speaker 4: that we call the Tower Room, and it's like at
Speaker 4: the very top of like an old Gothic tower. It's
Speaker 4: like Rapunzel's Tower situation. Yeah, absolutely terrifying. I don't know
Speaker 4: what is wrong with us. I was like way less
Speaker 4: scared of this stuff when I was in college than
Speaker 4: I am now.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 9: But so we thought, oh my god, this would be
Speaker 9: the perfect place to throw my friend's birthday party. So
Speaker 9: we all like decide, yeah, we're.
Speaker 4: Going to use our academic fronts to go in there
Speaker 4: after hours and like set up a birthday.
Speaker 9: Party for my friend.
Speaker 5: And so.
Speaker 7: While we're up there, like it's Saturday during the day
Speaker 7: and we're like going up there.
Speaker 4: Like set up, and we go up there and I
Speaker 4: don't none of us have any classes up here.
Speaker 9: We go up there and it's.
Speaker 4: There's a fireplace and on the mantle of the fireplace
Speaker 4: is a Ouiji board just waiting what why, And it's
Speaker 4: just like propped up on the fireplace and we're just.
Speaker 9: Like, I don't know why.
Speaker 4: Our first thought wasn't like run screaming and cancel the party.
Speaker 4: Our first thought was, oh my god, look at this.
Speaker 4: We're going to do this later tonight. We're in the party.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's perfect, I know, right.
Speaker 9: It was like it was waiting for us. So we
Speaker 9: set up the party. We go back up there at like.
Speaker 4: The time, we're having fun, we're drinking, we're having.
Speaker 9: A good time. This was also freshman year.
Speaker 4: And then we decide to use the Wiji board later
Speaker 4: on after all this, I like remember doing research online
Speaker 4: and like finding out all the things we did wrong,
Speaker 4: like you're not supposed to like be drunk and you're
Speaker 4: not supposed to like.
Speaker 9: Like we did. We broke so many rules.
Speaker 5: But you know what.
Speaker 1: Whatskes for a good story though?
Speaker 9: It does? It does.
Speaker 4: So we all gather around the Wiji board and we
Speaker 4: start asking questions and it starts like responding very clearly
Speaker 4: right away, and like I had my thing on it,
Speaker 4: and I know there's that thing where it's like, oh yeah, people,
Speaker 4: you subconsciously move it, which totally could have been what's happening,
Speaker 4: but like I also kind of believe that if you're
Speaker 4: subconsciously moving it, like maybe you're also like talking to
Speaker 4: someone still like I don't know, because this thing was
Speaker 4: like flying across the board, like it felt like it
Speaker 4: was dragging us, and we were getting really freaked out
Speaker 4: and like just like double checking, Okay, no one's.
Speaker 9: Moving it, No one's moving it.
Speaker 4: And this thing felt like it was like literally pulling us.
Speaker 4: So we're asking questions and we're getting some very clear answers.
Speaker 9: There's like two ghosts there, man and a woman.
Speaker 4: They died in like they gave us the year of
Speaker 4: like the eighteen sixties, which would add up for a time,
Speaker 4: and we asked them like, oh, were you students here?
Speaker 4: Did you work here? Were you passing through? They said
Speaker 4: they were passing through at then we asked are you happy?
Speaker 4: And it like went quickly to like no, which freaked
Speaker 4: out my super chill friend from northern California who likes
Speaker 4: so much that she immediately got up and was like,
Speaker 4: all right, I'm out if you're like they're not happy.
Speaker 9: I don't want to see what's going to happen.
Speaker 4: Next, and just like ran outside and like started taking
Speaker 4: the smoke or something.
Speaker 9: So we're just.
Speaker 1: We're like this this nice couple didn't like a bunch
Speaker 1: of college freshman girls wasted in their home. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 9: I mean, like obviously they weren't happy, but whatever. You know,
Speaker 9: we were like, oh, they're unhappy.
Speaker 4: But so we're But then my sister was like, all right,
Speaker 4: we got to test this and see if it's legit.
Speaker 4: Like we got to ask questions that no one would
Speaker 4: know the answer to. So she's asking how many we
Speaker 4: had like apples in the room for some reason, I
Speaker 4: don't know why.
Speaker 9: So I think we were like snacks or something.
Speaker 4: So she was like, how many apples are there in
Speaker 4: the room, and like nobody counted them beforehand, and it
Speaker 4: went right to like eight, and we got up and
Speaker 4: counted and there were eight apples in the room, and
Speaker 4: so we were like, Okay, that's weird, but also totally
Speaker 4: possible that like somebody like.
Speaker 9: Knew there were eight apples in the room and moved
Speaker 9: it or something.
Speaker 4: So then we had a bunch of mugs and like
Speaker 4: cups in the room. So she's like, how many cups
Speaker 4: are there in the room, and it went to like fifteen,
Speaker 4: and so she's like all right, and so we go
Speaker 4: around and we count fourteen cups.
Speaker 9: She's like, that's weird.
Speaker 4: But then she's like, wait a second, and she noticedes
Speaker 4: a cabinet in the room that none of us had
Speaker 4: noticed before, and she goes up and opens it and
Speaker 4: there's one cup in there and none of us knew
Speaker 4: we're there.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's pretty good.
Speaker 4: This is pretty good, I know, right, I know, and
Speaker 4: like none of us and she was like at this point,
Speaker 4: we all get really freaked out. So we're like all right, goodbye,
Speaker 4: and then we leave and we're like that's really.
Speaker 9: Afterward, Like some of us were kind of freaked out.
Speaker 4: I remember like going online and being like, oh, we
Speaker 4: like didn't like do this, we didn't do a blessing,
Speaker 4: we didn't do this.
Speaker 9: Okay, I hope everything is cool.
Speaker 4: But then the next year it's Halloween and we're like
Speaker 4: drunk again after a Halloween party and we're like, let's
Speaker 4: go to the tower and do a seance because we're dumb.
Speaker 9: So we go back and were going there and we
Speaker 9: don't there's.
Speaker 4: No ouiji board there, but we all like hold our
Speaker 4: hands around the table and we're like to the two
Speaker 4: spirits who were here before, like we'd like do our
Speaker 4: version of a seance like and we're like, come to
Speaker 4: us now, give us a sign, and I have.
Speaker 9: Like, this is pre everyone having iPhones. This is like
Speaker 9: two thousand and eight.
Speaker 4: So I'm using a digital camera and I'm like taking
Speaker 4: pictures the whole time because like I'm.
Speaker 9: Like, you need to catch them, you know, on my camera.
Speaker 4: And so we're like, if you are here, appeer by
Speaker 4: the fireplace, and I take a picture of the fireplace.
Speaker 4: If you're here, appeer by my friend Susan's head, and
Speaker 4: I take a picture of my friend Susan, And like
Speaker 4: we go on and on and then like nothing really happens,
Speaker 4: but we get kind of a weird feeling.
Speaker 9: We're like, this is stupid. We need to go.
Speaker 4: But afterward, when I checked the photos, every single photo,
Speaker 4: there are two orbs exactly where we asked them to
Speaker 4: appear by the fireplace, two orbs by my friend's head.
Speaker 9: Two orbs. And we're like, all right, that is really weird.
Speaker 9: So that's the last we ever went into the tower room.
Speaker 9: But I did talk to I.
Speaker 4: Did talk to another student who graduated way after me,
Speaker 4: and I told her this story and she was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: that roop's like totally locked off, like they don't let
Speaker 4: anyone up there anymore. And She's like, it's not a
Speaker 4: classroom anymore. It's not like anything. There's like bolts on
Speaker 4: the door.
Speaker 9: Well, I don't know, like if that has I just.
Speaker 4: Want to know why, because I don't know if it
Speaker 4: has anything to do with spooky stuff or what. But
Speaker 4: like that was just an interesting way for that story
Speaker 4: to like have an interesting conclusion. So I'm dying to
Speaker 4: go back and like to do more research, and like
Speaker 4: I have a friend who's like really into ghost hunting
Speaker 4: and he's got like all the equipment and stuff, so
Speaker 4: like sometime we want to go back and like do
Speaker 4: a real ghost hunt there.
Speaker 1: But you should. I mean, bolts on the door. That's
Speaker 1: never a good thing.
Speaker 5: I know, like that is.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It was a perfectly functioning like classroom back when I
Speaker 4: went there, and it wasn't that long.
Speaker 1: It's probably like in Beetle Jew it's like a couple,
Speaker 1: like it seems like it would be kind of fun
Speaker 1: to be a ghost with somebody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, I don't know why they weren't happy,
Speaker 4: and it was just because we were being done.
Speaker 9: We wouldn't leave them alone, So I kind of don't
Speaker 9: blame them.
Speaker 1: Well, they're probably happy now yeah.
Speaker 9: Hopefully now the door's locked.
Speaker 4: I also never found out who put that Ouiji board
Speaker 4: up there, why, or any of that.
Speaker 9: It was very strange.
Speaker 1: Mystery. Well, I hope you get in there and ghost
Speaker 1: hunt one of these days. You have to let me
Speaker 1: know what happens.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll have to let you know, like I need
Speaker 9: to make that happen.
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