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Speaker 1: How are we doing? I'm John this three and now podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully everyone is having a good day. It's currently pouring

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Speaker 1: free agency because it's I don't want to say it's over,

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Speaker 1: And I guess I'm just gonna ask a question. Is

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Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, I like you get excited.

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Speaker 1: It is fun to watch these transactions. It is been

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Speaker 1: I enjoy watching guys star, big names, get traded, guys

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Speaker 1: Not into this, but after you give it a couple days,

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Speaker 1: And then at my wedding, my brother was going to

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Speaker 1: give a speech, and I was expecting him to just

434
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Speaker 1: you know, talk a little shit, say a couple of zingers,

435
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 1: and just get a couple of laughs. Turns out I'm

436
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: watching him at like the cocktail hour after we get

437
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: done taking pictures. He's like pacing, like is Jeff okay?

438
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, he's really nervous. I'm like nervous

439
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: for what They're like the speech. I'm like, the speech,

440
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: just say a couple of lines of me doing dumb

441
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: stuff and say you love me and move on. And

442
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: then we eat dinner and I have to go, like

443
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: I have to go to the bathroom. So I leave

444
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom, and speeches are probably in

445
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: like ten minutes, and I come back in and I

446
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: look and I see one piece of like steak, and

447
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: no one else has any food on their table and

448
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 1: there's just one piece of steak. I'm like, has everyone eaten?

449
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 1: Has a food come out?

450
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: Ye?

451
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: Because I'd already eaten probably ten minutes before. They're like, yeah,

452
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 1: everyone's eating. They've already taken the food away. I'm like,

453
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: whose steak is that? They're like, that's Jeff's your brother.

454
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: It's like he can't eat.

455
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 2: I'm like why.

456
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's terrified. And then he gives you know,

457
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: like a probably a twenty second speech, and I just realized, like,

458
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: and even he told me, some people are just very

459
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable doing that, and I think we take for granted,

460
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: like someone like myself, who I just it's not only

461
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: not saying that I don't get anxiety about certain things

462
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: in life, like I don't love, you know, looking at

463
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 1: my portfolio the last couple of weeks, that gets my

464
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: ticker moving. But I just thought that it's not even

465
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: a thing. And I actually thought he, you know, he'd

466
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 1: be good. And it turns out and I almost had him,

467
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: you know, run the part of the wedding. What's it

468
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: called the uh not the or I can't even think

469
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 1: of the word, you know, like the actors, like the priest,

470
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: and he clearly wanted no part of it. Now, looking back,

471
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad I had guy do it. And uh, last,

472
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 1: but not least, I also wanted to get married after

473
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: you hit a certain age. I was like, I'm gonna

474
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: get married at the I'm just gonna get married at

475
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: the courthouse, Like I don't need a wedding, you know,

476
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: I'm thirty five, thirty six, thirty seven years old. Whenever

477
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: I get married, I'm gonna get married at the courthouse,

478
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 1: easy in and out. And I was a huge believer

479
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: in that, and I was adamant, like that's what I'm

480
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: gonna do. If we had whatever money we'd put toward

481
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: the wedding, like put it towards something else, put in

482
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: the stock market, put it by a second home. I

483
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: don't know, it was to do something else with it.

484
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: And then Maria was Adam like I having a wedding.

485
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: And I remember years ago I was at some function

486
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: and I was talking to this guy whose wife was

487
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: a wedding planner in him just telling me because I

488
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: remember telling him this, He's like, I think it would

489
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: be a mistake. It'd be something you remember, whether it's

490
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: big or small, but like you should have a wedding

491
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: with your family and at least your closest friends. And

492
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: I remember when we went into the courthouse to get

493
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: the uh you got to get the paper to like

494
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: get signed to be officially married, and thinking I'm really

495
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: glad that I didn't just do this. Luckily, in my life,

496
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: I've haven't gotten trouble. Like I started thinking, like, when's

497
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: the last time I've been to the courthouse beside like

498
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: a field trip when I was like twelve, I don't

499
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: think I've ever been to the courthouse. So my thought

500
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: of the courthouse is more much more based on like

501
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: television or something you would see on television, and then

502
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: you go in You're like, this would have been an

503
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 1: awful decision. And looking back on getting married last week

504
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: and we didn't have a big wedding. It was like

505
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: sixty people and a lot of you know, family, really

506
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: really close friends, and I was kind of it like

507
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: it was it was really small, and I'm really glad

508
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: that we did that. And I was I wouldn't say

509
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: talked in because I was into it pretty early, like

510
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: I was cool with it, but like I changed my

511
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 1: tune pretty hard, Like it was a hard pivot because

512
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 1: I swear like I was sett in stone I'm getting

513
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: married at the courthouse.

514
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 2: Then you go to the courthouse and you're like people are.

515
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: Getting dragged in here for Dewey's and you know, getting

516
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: in trouble and you got this going on here. It's

517
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: like you got metal detectors here. It's like, yeah, I

518
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: don't know if that's the greatest vibe. So any recommendation

519
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: to young people that ever have that in their mind,

520
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: even if you just get get married with you know,

521
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: your parents, her parents and like some brothers and scissors

522
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: or something, I would recommend doing something where you can

523
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: look back and at least have your family to just

524
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: enjoy a nice dinner or something, because it is it

525
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: is a pretty cool night. The officiant. The officiant is

526
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: the name I was looking for. Okay, let's do a

527
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: little mailbag at John middlecoff firing those dms. I need

528
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: more questions because a lot of them got lost in

529
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: the shuffle because of I talked about this yesterday, but

530
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: I got so many dms about the wedding that it's

531
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: just made my inbox insane. So if you asked a

532
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: question and I haven't even come close to answering it

533
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: over the last week, like, either re ask it or

534
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, throw another comments and it'll kind of come

535
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: back up near the top. So I would recommend that

536
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: if you want to get questions, because it's the off

537
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: season and obviously I'm gonna need you guys. You guys

538
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: are part of the team. Here a question for the bag.

539
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: What do you make of the Chargers off season. I

540
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: know we will be primarily building through the draft, re

541
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: signing our studs, Mac and hopefully Slater. Well, you guys,

542
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: resign Mac maybe you meant that and look to avoid

543
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: overpaying free agents. But looking at our cap space, we

544
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: have as much as any team in the league and

545
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: didn't make any many signings. I wasn't looking at overpaying

546
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: any stars, but thought we could build up our depth

547
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: and retain starters like Puna Ford and JK.

548
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: Dobbins.

549
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: Wanted your take on Harbaugh's second off season as he

550
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: builds the team in his image. Many are critical of

551
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: our off season, but I've see this.

552
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: Is we talked about this earlier.

553
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: You have to pay such a premium to get any

554
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: of these players. So let's say you're the Chargers and

555
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: you got some space. I don't have your cap space

556
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: in front of me, but more than enough space to

557
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: sign a couple sweet guys. It's like, Okay, you're just

558
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: gonna sign like Josh Sweat, the dude who went to

559
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: the Cardinals for like ninety million and a ton of guaranteed.

560
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: Are you gonna sign Milton Williams for twenty five twenty six?

561
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: Like I.

562
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: You're already a playoff team. Signing a big contract like

563
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: that limit your flexibility. An underrated part about cap space

564
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: is you can roll it over.

565
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: So if you're a good team.

566
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: And you don't feel comfortable overpaying, because that's what you

567
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,479
Speaker 1: have to do, the last week, you overpay, which if

568
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: the guy solid for you, okay, but like you're looking

569
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: for now difference makers. So when you give Khalil Mack

570
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars again, it's been a long week, a

571
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: little fuzzy, but I remember seeing the Chargers resign Khalil

572
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: Mack eighteen million dollars.

573
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: You feel really good about that, even if it's a

574
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: little overpay. You go, he's our type guy. Jim likes him.

575
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: He fits our culture.

576
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: When you signed these outside guys, you know, it's kind

577
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: of risky. So I got no problem not playing in

578
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: the deep end. This notion too, that they were gonna

579
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: sign like they're not gonna give t Higgs one hundred

580
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: million dollars, they were never gonna trade for DK Metcalf, Like,

581
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: that's not how Harbaugh does business.

582
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: I think I have full faith.

583
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: It's gonna be pretty good. I did question a little

584
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: bit Naji Harris, who actually I think the last couple

585
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: of years has looked the best of his NFL career.

586
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: They gave him ten million dollars.

587
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: Again, I'm not Mike Florio here breaking down the contract,

588
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: so I just kind of take it on face value

589
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: till I read otherwise. But he's making decent money. Jim Harbaugh.

590
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: When I lived in the Bay Area, Naji Harris was

591
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: the biggest star in the Bay Area. He went to

592
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: Antioch High School and he was being recruited by Alabama. Well,

593
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh was trying to sign him as well, and

594
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: used to recruit the hell out of him at Michigan.

595
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: So like that one of those that Jim's liked since

596
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: he was in high school, and now he finally got him.

597
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: Guys in the wedding.

598
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: Funny enough, my dad was also in Nashville this past weekend.

599
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: I have a question for the mailbag. Why do you

600
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: think it's a bad idea for the Browns to extend

601
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. I don't believe that they are that far

602
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: away from contending. They won eleven games and made the

603
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: playoffs in twenty three with a heavily injured roster. I

604
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: think all they need is competent quarterback play and they'll

605
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: be right back in the playoffs. Well, I didn't like,

606
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: trust me, I would want Miles Garrett on my team,

607
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: and I didn't just come up with the idea like

608
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: let's trade him. He came out and said trade me.

609
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: If Miles Garrett had said like I want to be

610
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: a Brown, I would have done exactly what they did. Pam, like,

611
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: you're in the business up keeping. Well, once he goes,

612
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: I want out, and you go, we got this Deshaun

613
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: Watson disaster.

614
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: We got the number two overall. Pick.

615
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: I just thought it would have been a time to

616
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: kind of blow it up and not even blow it up,

617
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: like you said, you still got good players. You just

618
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: kind of get a bunch of first round pack. It's

619
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: like a transitional period. And they obviously throw a bunch

620
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: of money at him, which I respect, Like they they

621
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: kind of went old school. He's like, I want to trade,

622
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: and I don't think he was just bullshitting, Like I

623
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: think he was pretty adamant. He was going on the shows.

624
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: He was doing it, and they're like, we're gonna offer

625
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: you so much money. Good luck saying no. And I'll

626
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: say this about Jimmy HASLM. They pay, they pay a

627
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: lot of cash. And this is what I said about

628
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: like if Shador had gone into that interview, like you'd

629
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: want like you get really really rich with that team,

630
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: like really rich. I mean he pays more than any

631
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: team in the league. When will NFL gms wake up?

632
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback is the only position in pro sports, and

633
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: really the only job in the economy where they pay

634
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: mediocre person the same as the best person in their field.

635
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: An average quarterback should not be paid what Mahomes makes

636
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: because quote, he's the next up. That's what the market is.

637
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: No, it isn't. They're over paying.

638
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: I've never understood that, And I understand the revenue sharing

639
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: the way the business partnership works, because that's well, the

640
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: NFL owns, you know, the owners own the teams. They're

641
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: still in a partnership with the players, and you got

642
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: to pay like that. There is a fifty to fifty

643
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: or forty eight fifty two or whatever the exact percentage.

644
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: There's a there's a revenue split. It's essentially fifty to fifty.

645
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: And you got to pay the players.

646
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: So I think they look at it, we got to

647
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: pay somebody. But to me, if you want to win

648
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 1: and you're giving a quarterback who you know is probably

649
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: not a top ten quarterback one hundred and fifty two

650
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars, I just think you're an idiot. And

651
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: it's like, well, just what else am I going to do?

652
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's got to be figured out other options.

653
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: See what else is out there? Play out the contract.

654
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: That that's always my symbol. Play out the contract. It's

655
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: like brock Party wants to undred million dollars, which if

656
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: his agent called and said that, I wouldn't blame him.

657
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: That's what Trevor Lawrence Gott if I was the Niners,

658
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: would be like, here's one hundred and twenty five. Like, well,

659
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: that's not what the market is. Well, then fine, we'll

660
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: play out next year. You play again on next year

661
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: on one point five million dollars. We'll give you one

662
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five million dollars guaranteed right now. I

663
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: know you want two hundred, but we'll give you one

664
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: twenty five. Or we can play next year for one

665
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: point five million dollars. You want to do that, because

666
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: if you do, that's like that what we'll do. I

667
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: think some of these teams have lost the logic of

668
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: having some of this leverage, and I think a lot

669
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: of times people don't want to deal with the holdouts

670
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: and stuff, which I get.

671
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: But it's insane.

672
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: Like if Josh Allen makes two hundred and fifty million dollars,

673
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: what's to a fifty million dollar guarantee is Josh Allen

674
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: five times better than to a Tonga Bai looa. I'm

675
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: not trying to hate on Tua.

676
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 2: I respect the guy. He's proven he's.

677
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: Like a solid player. But Josh is in a different universe.

678
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: Lamar is in a different universe. So it's like, well,

679
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: we got to pay him what eighty percent?

680
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 2: What?

681
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: Like you said, the sales guy who brings in ten

682
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: million dollars does not make the same as the sales

683
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: guy that's bringing in four hundred thousand dollars. That guy

684
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: makes way more money. Shouldn't quarterbacks be compensated on that

685
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: as well? Like this guy's way better by every single metric.

686
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: But it's just I don't know, it's just not the

687
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: way it works. Welcome back, Mason Rudolph. I guess could

688
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: you explain to me what the Steelers are doing? Two

689
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: high drama wide receivers and a backup quarterback. Well, I

690
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: just think the Rogers thing feels inevitable. And however he's

691
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: approaching this, he's not in a huge rush. So I

692
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: would imagine Aaron Rodgers starting quarterback, Rudolph's your backup, and

693
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: maybe you trade up for like Shador that that would

694
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: be my educated guess. As we sit here Thursday, March thirteen,

695
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: in a league obsessed with numbers, metrics, and analytics, how

696
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: does the observations about a player, quote unquote losing a

697
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: step stand up. I understand when a player time to

698
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: the combine when they're twenty one or so. Surely will

699
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: lose a step when they're thirty three. I see from

700
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: time to time, and rarely where they are able to

701
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 1: track the speed of a player using the chip. Still

702
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: there really is no continuing commentary on player speed from

703
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: year to year. I'm guessing there is no time forty

704
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: during the season. So other than a subjective evaluation by

705
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: a commenter based only on a player getting a year

706
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: or two older, say twenty eight to thirty, the commenting

707
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: that he has lost a step is something to be

708
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: taken with a grain of salt. Totally agree. I mean,

709
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: they're not when he's lost a step. They're not like

710
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: quantifying it with a numeric value, Like if one time

711
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: the guy was a nine, now he's a seven and

712
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: a half.

713
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: This isn't you know Madden, where his's.

714
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,479
Speaker 1: His speed rating, his energy in a game has.

715
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: Gone down by half.

716
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: But I think coaches when you're evaluating a player, you know,

717
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: like Andy Reid can watch a guy and go, this

718
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: guy's not as good as he was three years ago

719
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: on my own team or on a team I compete against,

720
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: because I have a base of knowledge of watching him.

721
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: If he's on your own team for several years, let's

722
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: just pick. I don't know, I'm trying to think. I'm

723
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: trying to think of a good example. It have to

724
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: be an older player. Let's use Kyle ust Check. Let's

725
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 1: say the forty nine ers think he's lost a step,

726
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: and Ustcheck thinks he has not lost a step. Well,

727
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: Kyle for nine years.

728
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 2: Or eight I guess eight. I keep saying nine is

729
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: eight years.

730
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: Has evaluated every snap of Kyle ust Check's career, so

731
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: he can watch him and he can base it on

732
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: and he can just pull up film see what he

733
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: looked like in twenty twenty or twenty one. Again, that's

734
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: a bat it it's kind of a niche player as

735
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: a fullback, but like tackles guards. I remember when I

736
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: was with the Eagles and we signed Ronnie Brown. I

737
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: remember the first snap or first couple snaps of like

738
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: OTAs it looked like he was running in concrete, Like,

739
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: why does this guy look so slow? And turns out

740
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: his lagser is shot. That's the other thing with football,

741
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's such a you know, running back at

742
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: wide receiver, at corner, at linebacker. Foot speed is a

743
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: pretty big deal. Like you can get away with a

744
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: little bit of guard or center or even defensive tackle

745
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: as long as you still have a little burst. But

746
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: like if you're a running back and you lose a step,

747
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: like that's a problem. Huge Ohio State fan, do you

748
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: think Ryan Day would ever make a good NFL coach?

749
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: He has a good track record putting quarterbacks in the

750
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: first round and is a good offensive play caller. He

751
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: does have flaws, but notably tightening up in big games occasionally.

752
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: But isn't the NFL always looking for offensive gurus and

753
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: quarterback development coaches? Well, I got to remove my bias

754
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: as a well known Ohio State hater. He doesn't call

755
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: the plays though, and he hasn't called the plays. When's

756
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: the last time Ryan Day called the plays? It feels

757
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: like it's been a couple of years.

758
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: Could be wrong.

759
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: Obviously didn't call him this year in their national championship year.

760
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: Maybe call Did he call him? Two years ago. Did

761
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: he take it away from what's his name?

762
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: The who's your wide receiver coach that makes a bunch

763
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: of money, that's not the offensive coordinator.

764
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: Uh, Listen.

765
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: People I know that know him personally, that worked with

766
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: him in the NFL with the Niners and the Eagles

767
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: like him a lot.

768
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: He's very well thought of.

769
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: I I just sometimes everyone's hanging the left.

770
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: I gotta hang it right.

771
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: I've never had a negative interaction with a guy. People

772
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: like him, you know, clearly pretty impressive guy that's not

773
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: an easy job, handled it pretty well. We nitpick him

774
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: some of this big game losses. I do think it's

775
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: hard to be a tough guy because Michigan is just

776
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: out tough to him when you're just not as tough

777
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: as certain opponents. So when you lean into that, like

778
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get in the ring and go blow

779
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: for blow with Mike Tyson or a Vander Holyfield, You're

780
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: gonna have to fight them differently. And maybe he learned

781
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: that and it kind of made him pivot once he

782
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: hit the playoffs, and then he just kind of I mean,

783
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: it's one of the great playoff runs in recent memory.

784
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: Blew out Tennessee, blew out Oregon who they play then Texas?

785
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: Why don't I don't even remember that game against Texas.

786
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say blew him out, but it was in

787
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: control of that game and obviously notre name was up big.

788
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: He's good, There's no disputing it. He's good.

789
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: Congrats on the nuptials. Totally agree in the silicon rings

790
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: rubber silicon same thing. My question is this, The draft

791
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: by most sources is loaded at defensive line. Is there

792
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: a edge rusher you like that would be the difference

793
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 1: maker available at the end of the first to pair

794
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: with Aiden Hutchinson, who helped the Lions' biggest weakness. I

795
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: got to dive a little deeper into the draft. I'd

796
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: be lying if I like, have a great feel for

797
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: late first early second round players. You know the guys

798
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 1: I focused on is I would say the defensive tackle

799
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: from Michigan, the obviously Abdul Carter from Penn State. I

800
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: do think the guy from Stewart from Texas A and

801
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: M that tested like a freak, but only as four

802
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: and a half career sacks. I would just base on

803
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: his testing and just the way he looks. There's no

804
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: chance he would be there, Like ideally, guys like that should.

805
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: Be in the twenties.

806
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, wasn't a very productive player, tested

807
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: like a freak. But I also think you need to

808
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: be careful of those, like when the Packers took the

809
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: dude from Iowa who tested like a freak but never started,

810
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: and then it's like he's a bust. Yeah, I mean,

811
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: I think you could go detackle or defensive end. You

812
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: just need to get someone who can and a trade

813
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: with Hutchinson because if you get another high end pass

814
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: rusher with that guy, holy shit. So I don't think

815
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: it necessarily has to be you said defensive line, Yeah,

816
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: tackle or end. I think there's just a lot of them.

817
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of people think, like,

818
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: of the top thirty players, probably like eleven or twelve

819
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. So if you just do the math, there

820
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: are gonna be some wide receivers, running backs, and offensive linemen,

821
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: and clearly a couple quarterbacks.

822
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 2: They're gonna come off the board.

823
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: So there is gonna be, you know, some high end

824
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: defensive lineman at the end of the first round, which

825
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: can be pretty rare. And then if you do draft

826
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: a defensive lineman. You just need him, and you need

827
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: the corner you took last year from Bama. If those

828
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: guys over the next couple of years can be kind

829
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: of cornerstone players with Aiden. All of a sudden, your

830
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 1: defense with Jack Campbell, Aiden Hutchinson, Terry On, Arnold Branch,

831
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: who's like the safety nickel from Bama, who's sweet, who's

832
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: really good? All of a sudden, your defense looks a

833
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: little like your offense. Like you guys are good at

834
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: every position, or got impact guys at every position every time?

835
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: This year, I can't help but reminisce and marvel at

836
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: the fact that Jason Peters was a tight end in

837
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: college and not only became one of the best offensive

838
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: tackles of all time, but was undrafted. I was curious,

839
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: since you were a former scout, did you or do

840
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: you know if scouts always have their eye on potential

841
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: prospects like that, not necessarily tight end or offensive tackle

842
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: every time, but an athletic offensive guard that could can

843
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: be a fullback. I think in every draft there are

844
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: guys who you know can do position flexibility. When I

845
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: first got out of scouting and started doing radio, the

846
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: forty nine ers drafted Bruce Miller, who was a defensive

847
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: lineman I think at South Florida or Central Florida, and

848
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: they turned into full back and he was a good fullback.

849
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: You know, the Chargers have a defensive lineman that plays fullback,

850
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: so like that position is somewhat possible. We'd also, and

851
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: I know buddies that still do, look at college basketball

852
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: kind of that tight end position. Could the guy be

853
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: a defensive lineman, could the guy be an offensive tackle,

854
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 1: or could the guy be a tight end? But those

855
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: I do think those situations are kind of outliers. You know,

856
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: I don't know about Jason Peter's college experience. He went

857
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 1: to Arkansas, but he clearly I mean, by the time

858
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: I was around Jason Peters, he weighed three hundred and

859
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 1: forty pounds, so obviously he didn't weigh that in college.

860
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: But even if he weigh two hundred and seventy pounds

861
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: in college, there used to be tight ends that weigh

862
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixt two hundred seventy, two hundred eighty pounds.

863
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: What was the dude, if you're my age or older,

864
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: you know Tony Gonzales in Kansas City, they had a

865
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: second tight end. His last name was Done. He was

866
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: basically like a third tackle because Tony wasn't that big

867
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: of a blocker, so you kind of had to have

868
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 1: your second tight end be a blocking tight end. And

869
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: I think that, yeah, I mean I I think when

870
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: you look at a player, sometimes there's a wide receiver

871
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: in college, and I'm sure there's a guy like this

872
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: every year or two where you go, you know, he's

873
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: kind of big and he's not fast enough to play outside.

874
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: Couldn't he just be like a hybrid slot?

875
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 2: Could he get big enough to play tight end?

876
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: And it happens sometimes and every once in a while,

877
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: what was the guy's turope pryor became a wide receiver.

878
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: You know what's funny is we do it in college

879
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: all the time. Like a guy comes out of high school.

880
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: He's like I'm playing quarterback and I play safety. That

881
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, by like year two, he's playing

882
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: running back, or he's playing wide receiver or he's playing corner.

883
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: It's like, you just do whatever you have to do

884
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: to start for Alabama or Texas or whatever. But when

885
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: you come to the pros, no one ever wants changed positions.

886
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: It's like, what if you change positions, you become a

887
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: ten year pro, and you make millions of dollars for

888
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: the bag. I know you're not a big fan of them,

889
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: but I have a hypothetical for you. If the Chiefs

890
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: don't trade up to jump the Saints in twenty seventeen,

891
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: do you think Mahomes has similar success in New Orleans

892
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: Peyton at head coach Dennis Allen, a defensive coordinator, and

893
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: guys like Joe Brady, Dan Campbell and Aaron Glenn on staff.

894
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: I've I'm not anti hypotheticals. I just think sometimes, you know,

895
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: the draft one, which I'm guilty and a sucker for,

896
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: is kind of a waste of energy. I do think

897
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: this one is a pretty cool pivot point in the

898
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: NFL because that moment, let's face it, led Sean Payton

899
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: to quitting and now being on the Broncos because Sean

900
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: Payton has Patrick Mahomes. Maybe they don't have three super Bowls,

901
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 1: probably got one or two. I mean, it's fucking Patrick

902
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Sean Payton, like Andy Reid is offensive genius

903
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: and that team was good, So I think it's fair

904
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: to assume that he would still be there. But you

905
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: have those moments sometimes where it's like, what if instead

906
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 1: of Baker Mayfield it won overall Josh Allen had gone

907
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: to the Browns because we remember that draft was or

908
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: gone to the Jets at number three because it was

909
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: Baker may Field, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen, and

910
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: then Lamar Jackson. I don't think I'm mixing drafts there,

911
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: but think about that, like where you go matters, and

912
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: I think the example you use because clearly the Saints

913
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: liked him, they were pretty good and it was a

914
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: pretty awesome place for a quarterback to play. So my

915
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: guess is it would have worked at the level of

916
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: the Chiefs.

917
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that's.

918
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: I think that's unfair to say that will work that well.

919
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: Would they have been a double digit win team every

920
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: single year, been in the playoffs and had high seeds?

921
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: I think that's fair to assume. Lifelong Dolphins fan, last

922
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: time we won a playoff game, I was in diapers.

923
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: What do you think of the Zach Wilson signing. I

924
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: think it's an absolute joke given Tua's injury history. Do

925
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: you think the Dolphins intentionally signed bad backups so that

926
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: Tua does not feel threatened. Also, would you say the

927
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: Dolphins are the softest.

928
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: Team in the league.

929
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: It seems like anytime they are met with a little

930
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: bit of adversity or cold weather, the team collapses.

931
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

932
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: I mean I will say this is Sean Payton liked him,

933
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: but didn't like him enough to make him the backup quarterback.

934
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: So I think when you look like Mac Jones was

935
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback last year, right, So you go, Kyle

936
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: Shanahany signed Mack Jones, You're the backup, and I'm paying

937
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: you five million dollars. But you look at Justin Fields

938
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: like he gets benched and then the Jets give him

939
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars. Pretty bold in this situation, you're taking

940
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: another team's third string quarterback to turn him into the backup.

941
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: So Sean Payton could have chose because I knew another

942
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: team that had planned on signing Jared Stidham, and Sean

943
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: Payton clearly didn't want to lose him because he resigned him.

944
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: But if you like Zach Wilson as much, he would

945
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: have been like, okay, take him. I'll just keep Zack

946
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: Wilson for five or six million. Now, maybe there's a

947
00:49:55,560 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: dynamic of Stidham's older. Yeah, I don't know. Is Zach

948
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: Wilson good based on what we know right now? You

949
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: would say no. I do think it felt like he

950
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: matured and people liked him a lot more in Denver

951
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: than what had happened with the Jets. But like, what

952
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: were your other options? Sound like Daniel Jones Gardner Minshew Like,

953
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: once you're paying your quarterback as much as you guys are,

954
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: your backup's probably gonna be kind of random. Look who

955
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson's backups are. Mahomes backup was

956
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: Henny and then Carson wentz Okay cup more. You said

957
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: multiple times last season last season was the worst the

958
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 1: Broncos and Chargers will be for the foreseeable future. I

959
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: agree with you until free agency. I'm a diehard Bronco fan,

960
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: But just as a football fan and a fan of

961
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: Herbert and Harbaugh, are the Chargers actually better after free agency?

962
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: Notable moves are retaining mac Jalen Rager, signing Naji Harris,

963
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: Dante Jackson, in reuniting with Mike Williams. Honestly, I must

964
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: have missed that. I didn't even see that one Mike

965
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: Williams on the Chargers again. They lost Bosa, I mean

966
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: they cut him. They lost Gus Edwards, Josh Palmer, and

967
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: likely JK.

968
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 2: Dobbins.

969
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: Everyone in our division closed the gap on the Chiefs

970
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: except the Chargers. We got U Funka in green Law

971
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: and Ingram who chose us over the Chargers and retained

972
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: DJ Jones. Raiders kind of sort upgraded at quarterback now

973
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: they did. Yeah, I mean, I think part of Harbaugh

974
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: is the guys they drafted last year.

975
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: They expect him to be better, so they go. We

976
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: expect Joel to be an All Pro.

977
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: We expect Lad McConkey to be a top ten wide receiver,

978
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: top fifteen wide receiver. We expect the linebacker we drafted

979
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: from Michigan to be much.

980
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: More like That's how he looks at it.

981
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: He looks at it from a college perspective, like I'm

982
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: developing these young I expect Herbert to be better.

983
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 2: I'm better than my competition, So I think we.

984
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: You can't just assume, based on free agency, teams are

985
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: better or worse. I mean, most of my college years

986
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: in the two thousands, Dan Snyder won free agency every

987
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: single year, bought all the players every single free agency

988
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: and it never worked out. So this is part of

989
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 1: buying players in free agency. It's fun and it's huge headlines.

990
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: We don't have anything else going on. It doesn't guarantee

991
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: you crap, It really doesn't Listen. I've said I love

992
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: Hufunga in green Law, I mean I love Drey Greenlaw.

993
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: Drey Greenlaw is a bad ass.

994
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: He tore his achilles, he tried to come back, and

995
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: his hamstring and other injury started happening. Like, I hope

996
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: he's okay, but there is no guarantee that, like his

997
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: lower extremities are all gonna you know, match up. Love

998
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: Hufunga tours ACL then he fucked up his shoulder and

999
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: his and he missed a bunch of games last year.

1000
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: Part of the reason the Niners are letting him go

1001
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: is like they got this other kid named Mustafa who

1002
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: hits just like Ufunga.

1003
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: Who I even.

1004
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: Saw that Sam Browner on his podcast when he had

1005
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: debo on was like, might've been the hardest I got.

1006
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: Hit all year.

1007
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: So again, like I would rather have those guys on

1008
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: my team than not. But they've missed a lot of games,

1009
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: and I just think sometimes these guys.

1010
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 2: No player. Like the Chargers didn't.

1011
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: Want Joey Bosa anymore. It's not like they lost Joey Bosa.

1012
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: They cut him. They did not want him on the

1013
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: team anymore. They want Khalil Mack back, they don't want him.

1014
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to like defend. I just think sometimes

1015
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: in free agency you can basically keep any player you

1016
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: really want to keep. Right, the Chargers would never let

1017
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: Slater go, Hardball would not let Derwin James go. But like, yeah,

1018
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: I could do without this guy. So if you are

1019
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: a player available during free agency, there's a reason behind it.

1020
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: I could have kept you. Well, we didn't have the space. Well,

1021
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: I'll cut other guys.

1022
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 2: I'll make I'll figure it out.

1023
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: This is a puzzle and I control the pieces. Okay,

1024
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: last question. I feel like some people are sleeping on

1025
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: the Packers. There is an opportunity for improvement, but they're

1026
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 1: essentially bringing back the same roster and added to free

1027
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: agents who are huge upgrades. We know that Jordan Love

1028
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: played hurt all year. The receivers in No Line played

1029
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: well below, played well below expectations, and they gave the

1030
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: Eagles a tough game. How do you feel about the

1031
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 1: state of the Packers. I say this all the time.

1032
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: I said this when people start dming me, should we

1033
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: fire on la floor?

1034
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 2: Like, guys, you're gonna be okay.

1035
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: I would like my chances now more even than six

1036
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: months ago. That a lot of question marks with JJ

1037
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: McCarthy and the Vikings. We can say whatever we want

1038
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: about Sam Donald. Last year he played really well and

1039
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: there is absolutely no guara. If JJ McCarthy has Sam

1040
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: Donald's season, Vikings fans will be doing fucking cart wheels

1041
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: down the hallway. So you went one in five in

1042
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: the division, how often are you going.

1043
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 2: To be a playoff team?

1044
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: Which I would bet on the Backers be a playoff

1045
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: team next year and go one and five in the division.

1046
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: So if you go three and three in the division,

1047
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: you're probably more likely to be a twelve or thirteen

1048
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: win team. Now is Jordan Love was last year just

1049
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: a banged up year? Was last year more what he's

1050
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: gonna be, That's what he's We got a small sample size.

1051
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: With him, right.

1052
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: We have eight games, eight good games his first year,

1053
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: which is fair. He'd never started last year, was injured,

1054
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: would have some moments and then have some bad moments,

1055
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 1: a lot of unknown still with him. I still would

1056
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: bet on it, just because we've seen the good. We've

1057
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: seen him play high end, We've seen him play well

1058
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: in a playoff game, but receivers are a little bit

1059
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: of a question mark. What's his name got multiple concussions, Watson

1060
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: towards ACL. You gotta feel good about Jacobs. You gotta

1061
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: feel good about your tight end. Like you said, you

1062
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: needed a guard, so you overpay banks. Coaches good, your

1063
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: GM's good. I'd you're gonna be okay, Packer fans, and

1064
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: I get it. You just you've kind of been in

1065
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: the same spot now for a while. Uh, You're gonna

1066
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: be fine. It wouldn't shot like you might be able

1067
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: to compete to win the division next year. Right now,

1068
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: if I was handicapping the NFC North, because all the

1069
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 1: Lions guys at least going in this it will be healthy,

1070
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: I'd go Lions, which agains new coordinators, no lock, but

1071
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: I'd give them the benefit of out Lions. Then I

1072
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: think it's a coin flip between you and the Vikings,

1073
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: because like JJ McCarthy, I don't know. I'd probably give

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Speaker 1: you the benefit of the doubt right now until JJ

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Speaker 1: pruves me otherwise, and the bears are gonna be improved,

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Speaker 1: So that vision is good, it really is. But the

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Speaker 1: likelihood of Europe going one and five and that thing again,

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Speaker 1: that would be low the volume