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Speaker 1: One chilly morning in February nineteen twenty five, eleven year

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Speaker 1: her cousin. Suddenly, it's the devil's money. Eleanora stared at

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Speaker 1: possession before. Don't do it, he said, but Eleanora ignored him.

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Speaker 1: then bent down again. And picked it up. The cousin

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Speaker 1: strode off her head as Eleanora rubbed the coin against

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Speaker 1: More of Eleanora's cousins greeted her on her arrival at

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Speaker 1: Eleonora's blind, one hundred and five year old grandmother was

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Speaker 1: for the devil, had never seen her grandmother so animated before.

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Speaker 1: of him. You're listening to Unexplained and I'm Richard McLean Smith.

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Speaker 1: It began the very next day, as Eleanora and her

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Speaker 1: an invisible, malignant force. Over the following days, it was

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Speaker 1: So intrigued were the group by Eleonora's story, they offered

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Speaker 1: seen enough, Grunivald published a short statement confirming that, in

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Speaker 1: He promised to publish a full report in due course. However,

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Speaker 1: Vasilko SERETCHKEI. In addition to being a wealthy and influential aristocrat,

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Speaker 1: Countess Vasilko Seretchke was also a parapsychologist who'd long admired

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Speaker 1: She is incessantly playing with toys more suitable to a

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Speaker 1: Seretchki recorded more than three thousand separate incidents that she

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Speaker 1: At other times, mysterious rapping noises were heard on the

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Speaker 1: His gaze occasionally shifted down to his notebook as he

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Speaker 1: There was nobody in the house besides him, Eleonora and

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Speaker 1: symbol of foreboding, misfortune and death. In folklore, ghostly black

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Speaker 1: patterns in the psychic phenomena. There was one consistent thing.

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Speaker 1: Whenever these events happened, Eleonora was always either in the

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Speaker 1: their findings, they soon found some other correlations. The phenomena

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Speaker 1: often happened shortly before meal times, when Eleonora was hungry.

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Speaker 1: They also seemed to be stronger whenever she was in

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Speaker 1: more than anything, the Countess was fascinated by the possibility

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Speaker 1: that the key to this bizarre situation lay within Eleonora's mind.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps she wasn't being possessed by an external paranormal force

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Speaker 1: The Countess began to suspect that the psychokinetic events were

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