Speaker 1: And now welcome to part two of a most illustrious
Speaker 1: episode of the Victory Light Podcast starring The Kid Marrow,
Speaker 1: The Human Do Rag.
Speaker 2: Flap, Liz Bell, Ortiz La Ma.
Speaker 1: Tatana, Randie Omaye, The Rap, Gody app God, the Acoholics
Speaker 1: Makes Tape coming soon, and guest starring none other than
Speaker 1: Cheen and Thompson.
Speaker 2: So jumping around.
Speaker 3: We was talking about kids before and Father's Day and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, being things, doing things for your kids, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, or children in general, not just
Speaker 3: your kids, kids in general.
Speaker 2: You got the book Unfunny Bunny, let's go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's listen.
Speaker 2: You can go on to the incident right now and
Speaker 2: pre order it.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: You can use a computer like my kid does to
Speaker 3: write me lettuce, or you can use it to write
Speaker 3: pre order Unfunny Bunnies right now.
Speaker 4: Two different ways to use a computer.
Speaker 2: Funny buddy mind sweeper. Also that that's a good one.
Speaker 2: This is the Washman compensation, right, They're like, what are
Speaker 2: y'all talking about?
Speaker 4: Yes, funny buddy man, I'm excited. It's my second book,
Speaker 4: which is what went and honor to be able to
Speaker 4: say that, but you know, and it was the easiest
Speaker 4: funniest thing in the world. You know, Like we had
Speaker 4: an idea probably based on like kind of you know,
Speaker 4: personal experience or whatever, like putting yourself out there telling jokes,
Speaker 4: and when they don't land, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: they can make you, you know, start to question things
Speaker 4: or whatever, and like it's good to have friends to
Speaker 4: encourage you. Like that's kind of the story or whatever
Speaker 4: stuff like that. But I love bad jokes, dad jokes
Speaker 4: all that. Like nothing funnier than a joke that doesn't
Speaker 4: work number one, or like a just a in general,
Speaker 4: like one of those roll your eye jokes. I love
Speaker 4: that ship, you know what I'm saying, because it comes
Speaker 4: from such a genuine place. And usually those people that
Speaker 4: tell those jokes are some of the best people in
Speaker 4: the world, you know, the guy's neighborhood that's picking up
Speaker 4: everybody's kids from soccer or whatever and dropping them out,
Speaker 4: making sure everybody's straight, barbecuing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: There are always those kind of people. So like I love,
Speaker 4: you know, a good bad joke, there's.
Speaker 2: Something I love it a little bit too, like let
Speaker 2: let it let man.
Speaker 4: Because they genuinely enjoy them. Ships. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 5: My youngest son has told me the same joke like
Speaker 5: twelve times. He thinks it's incredible.
Speaker 4: He's like that, what do you call a fly without wings?
Speaker 2: And then he goes a walk.
Speaker 4: He'm like, oh my god, that's so excited. Why would
Speaker 4: you want to strip that?
Speaker 2: Joey?
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, of course your daughter's help help with
Speaker 4: with anything in this book. Inspiration was, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: I looking at them go to school, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like I'm always like reliving school through their
Speaker 4: eyes kind of thing, and just like I like, right
Speaker 4: now I'm waiting to go pick 'em up, you know,
Speaker 4: from school, And I'm always just like, so this is
Speaker 4: what everybody used to do when we were in school,
Speaker 4: Like everybody would just be out living life and then
Speaker 4: like checking the time and come back kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just it's just.
Speaker 4: Wild to see the other perspective. So when we were
Speaker 4: writing classroom scenes and like what it's like to be
Speaker 4: bullied or made fun of or anything, I'm like always
Speaker 4: I have them on my mind, you know, because like
Speaker 4: they're experiencing that like in real time right now, which
Speaker 4: is it's wild to see, cause like no kid is
Speaker 4: immune to like the occasional being made fun of or
Speaker 4: right embarrassing moment or even a moment that just didn't
Speaker 4: go as plans. So what do you do in those
Speaker 4: scenarios kind of things? So any kind of book that
Speaker 4: encourages kids to just continue or like anything like that,
Speaker 4: if it, if that's what this book does for kids,
Speaker 4: like that's gonna be the ultimate. You know what I'm
Speaker 4: saying a.
Speaker 3: Funny because as as a comedian, Yeah, I was about
Speaker 3: to say, I was like, would you be crushed if
Speaker 3: they were not funny? Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like I'm funny as hell, bro, Like I've been doing
Speaker 3: this so I'm fourteen, bro.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm I'm not even really a joke teller.
Speaker 4: I just enjoy you know, life, and like, yeah, if
Speaker 4: a happy moment comes out, I like laughing with people
Speaker 4: kind of thing. Yes, But like I'm not just out
Speaker 4: to like pursue like the formula of writing a joke
Speaker 4: kind of shit, you know what I mean. I'm always
Speaker 4: just quoting some funny shit that I saw kind of
Speaker 4: thing or whatever, like we used to quote Coming to
Speaker 4: America or you know whatever, you know, struck us funny
Speaker 4: As kids so like, I wouldn't be mad if my
Speaker 4: kids didn't have that necessarily because it's like not a
Speaker 4: specific gene for me. We just all like giggling, and
Speaker 4: I see that in them. They like to giggle and
Speaker 4: they're silly. So like I'm happy for that, okay.
Speaker 3: Because I'm like, yo, because my kids be like so
Speaker 3: my oldest son, he's he's just starting.
Speaker 2: To get funny. Yeah, and I'm like, oh, oh.
Speaker 6: This is oh the geneus active, Like Yo, what's happening.
Speaker 2: It's happening, like Yo, sit again what you say? And
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, this ship, this was funny. Bro, I
Speaker 2: understood this reference, Like.
Speaker 4: Know that's real comedic things, that that's a comedic brand.
Speaker 4: Like I'm an actor who happens to do a lot
Speaker 4: of funny shit, Like I've always been the comedic relief
Speaker 4: and comic relief and things. But you know, I grew
Speaker 4: up doing man serious plays. Like in high school, we
Speaker 4: wrote our own plays and they were about like South
Speaker 4: Africa and apart tid and like teen age and like
Speaker 4: all this other like super yeah in high school, bro,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I grew up like
Speaker 4: doing Nickelodeon and stuff like that. And then my hometown
Speaker 4: at the same time was real just College Park, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It's like real like issues going on,
Speaker 4: like teenagers. It's not Nickelodeon in Orlando, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So like that dynamic, I don't know. I've
Speaker 4: always just had like myself to kind of like deal
Speaker 4: with these like am I gonna be an actor? Am
Speaker 4: I gonna be a comedian kind of thing, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, And then the common denominators like well,
Speaker 4: I'm just me at the end of the day always,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, So I like, yeah, I
Speaker 4: don't necessarily do stand up like that, so like I
Speaker 4: don't overly consider myself to be a comedian, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like, I'm just which gives me, I think,
Speaker 4: the calm to just be like chill, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I can we can go there, we can
Speaker 4: get funny. We can like if we pounce on something
Speaker 4: that's making us die laughing, we'll you know, dissect that
Speaker 4: thing for an hour, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 4: just continue that. And then at the same time, if
Speaker 4: you know, a serious moment arizes, then I can be
Speaker 4: intelligent enough to have a conversation that's intelligent or whatever,
Speaker 4: and that's smart or whatever, and further along conversations and
Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff. So I like being versatile
Speaker 4: like that, Like a lot of stand ups are hyper
Speaker 4: focused on stand up, you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 4: cause you just not yeah, or like being the guy
Speaker 4: that like has to like out of everybody, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, and if they're not getting that energy
Speaker 4: that they check out kind of shit, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. I never wanted to be that person.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie I would.
Speaker 5: There are very few things I wouldn't do. To read
Speaker 5: the Keenan Thompson Mandela biopic from high School.
Speaker 2: Because that's.
Speaker 4: And these were like shows that I didn't even really
Speaker 4: get a chance to perform like that. It was just
Speaker 4: like a lot of rehearsal time. Then I would have
Speaker 4: to leave and go shoot some shit or whatever and
Speaker 4: they would perform when I was gone. So like the
Speaker 4: one play we wrote was called Sweto Soweto A Township
Speaker 4: is Calling, which is like about a like a township
Speaker 4: and like the kids living there kind of based off
Speaker 4: of Saraphina. If y'all ever saw Bopa and like all
Speaker 4: these other like South like heavy heavy, heavy stories. And
Speaker 4: these are sixteen seventeen year old kids like the musicals,
Speaker 4: by the way, saying they wrote.
Speaker 7: Stop all the musical musical Nickelodeon tanks with rocks like
Speaker 7: motion wow, moments like getting shot, like they all get
Speaker 7: they all get killed at the end, like going up
Speaker 7: against the army type illes is bro that then I
Speaker 7: would run and go do fucking Pierre.
Speaker 4: Super you know what I mean. So it's nice to
Speaker 4: be able to do both and be aware. But like
Speaker 4: man if I was just a dramatic actor, that would
Speaker 4: be like a heavy existence, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Just like hyper focusing on heavy heavy topics.
Speaker 5: See now we got to write the we gotta write
Speaker 5: the Hotel Rwanda musical bro Yo, the US we gotta do.
Speaker 2: I listen the blood.
Speaker 4: Diamonds, Blood diamond The illest part about blood diamonds him
Speaker 4: holding that sit in his toes, you know that s Yeah,
Speaker 4: standing there all day you like.
Speaker 5: Your mind haunts are singing like look at me, what
Speaker 5: is I have to go to.
Speaker 4: The rest room? Please out my toe.
Speaker 3: We haven't seen oh Man twenty two seasons on this
Speaker 3: No man, you're the longest running castle.
Speaker 2: The fiftieth aniversary just happened recently.
Speaker 3: As for Dominican people at this table, are you aware
Speaker 3: of someoneo he Gan?
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, we did the Savage sketch. Marcello brought it back,
Speaker 4: played the host and all.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
Speaker 3: So being part of uh an institution like that, do
Speaker 3: you think that sn is gonna beat out some of that?
Speaker 3: He got this my question because some of them did
Speaker 3: fifty three years.
Speaker 4: Did they Yeah, they got us, They got them, Yeah,
Speaker 4: they got them. Got because dude is still there, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. There was so much like mystery
Speaker 4: about like is he going to retire? He's he gonna
Speaker 4: do this? And he was like, I'm just not going
Speaker 4: to answer, And then once he did answer, he was like,
Speaker 4: no question. I'm like coming back, what are you talking about?
Speaker 4: So when he's like in no question mode, I feel
Speaker 4: like he gonna be there till, you know, forever. And
Speaker 4: he's a wealthy man, so like he stays in good shape,
Speaker 4: stays eating well, you know what I mean, Like I'm
Speaker 4: sure he's doctored up, so like he's like he doesn't
Speaker 4: look like he's three years within the cognitive failure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so like it's gonna go for a while.
Speaker 4: He hit the lip that torch can easily get passed
Speaker 4: to a Tino or Colin or myself or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it'll keep rolling. He hit the i'm, i'm.
Speaker 2: It's being a stand up.
Speaker 3: You say, you don't, you don't put yourself in any
Speaker 3: type of box, but you did have a Las Vegas residency.
Speaker 4: Here, these are showcases, OK.
Speaker 3: So it's a different So it's a different show every
Speaker 3: time out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And there was other comics that were just giving
Speaker 4: platform to other comics, so like I would host maybe
Speaker 4: the beginning of the run, and then they would run
Speaker 4: it for weeks and weeks and weeks and now wouldn't
Speaker 4: necessarily be there. So it's more so just using my
Speaker 4: voice as a give back or you know, a spring board.
Speaker 4: But yeah, we've been doing that for years. When my
Speaker 4: partner Sharia, and she's prolific at finding talent, she's been
Speaker 4: in the game for forever. Her mentor was Mary Lindsey
Speaker 4: who discovered Steve Harvey and like pretty much anybody out
Speaker 4: of Chicago basically or out of the Midwest kind of thing.
Speaker 4: And that's what she does. That's one of her passions,
Speaker 4: you know, and just they still rolling to this day.
Speaker 4: You know, I had to pull back because of this
Speaker 4: very situation where people think that these are my shows,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, because they see my name
Speaker 4: in my face, you know what I mean. They don't
Speaker 4: read the whole it's Keenan Presents. They don't even read
Speaker 4: the presents. Party wasn't even presenting it better be himself.
Speaker 4: A lot of people I would hear that kind of
Speaker 4: feedback regardless of if they enjoyed the shows. What they
Speaker 4: usually do, you know what I mean, Like she picks
Speaker 4: you know, great lineups, and like it's like, yes, they
Speaker 4: might be green, but like there's usually some really funny
Speaker 4: people along the way, and like at the end of
Speaker 4: the show, people like they always enjoyed themselves, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Look, they saw at the same time,
Speaker 4: like I don't do stand up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It was always one of those things that's like it's
Speaker 4: kind of wrecking my day, the fact that I gotta
Speaker 4: go out there, and like even if I gotta do
Speaker 4: three minutes, you know what I mean, It's just on
Speaker 4: my mind all day long, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 4: until it's done, and then I'm like what was I
Speaker 4: even tripping about? But like I can't flip the coin
Speaker 4: back and be like all right, I'm gonna start the
Speaker 4: day without that stuff on my mind. It's just every
Speaker 4: time I've had to do a stand up thing, like
Speaker 4: that's what's on my mind. More so probably because I
Speaker 4: don't practice it that often. It's not so second nature.
Speaker 4: So I just like it's like a nervous production cause
Speaker 4: I don't get that from like SML at all, Like like.
Speaker 3: That's to me, that's crazy because this is like, yo,
Speaker 3: that's live TV.
Speaker 4: And that's just like a cake walk in my opinion,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But like that's because I
Speaker 4: do it right. I have been doing it for so
Speaker 4: long al right, and.
Speaker 5: Wasn't wasn't all that also in front of a live
Speaker 5: audience and keenan Kell was also in front of it,
Speaker 5: like you liter like you you certified for real?
Speaker 2: Like so yeah that's my lane, Yeah stand up.
Speaker 4: Like I'm at the very beginning, I might as well be,
Speaker 4: you know, going to open mic nights every single time
Speaker 4: I get up there, even though I've done hours, like
Speaker 4: I've done an hour at colleges for years. But it's
Speaker 4: more so like just me telling my story as opposed
Speaker 4: to like joke formations or anything like that. Like I'm
Speaker 4: not John Mulaney, you know what I'm saying, Like I'm
Speaker 4: I'm Keenanes and yeah, yeah, and that's it's cool, especially
Speaker 4: if like I used to do a Q and A,
Speaker 4: which I thought was exciting, but then I started noticing
Speaker 4: more fuckers be leaving. It feels unprepared, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. You show for you, but anytime, like I've
Speaker 4: done it all the way out, then that's that's a show,
Speaker 4: you know what i mean. It feels like you know, official,
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, I would. I would. I've always respected
Speaker 4: stand up, you know what I mean. I loved it
Speaker 4: because I grew up watching Bill Cosby himself was the
Speaker 4: first one, and then Eddie and then you know, going
Speaker 4: back and looking at Richard and Ship like that, and
Speaker 4: then thinking about Carlage and carry Anybody's time on State,
Speaker 4: Damon Wentz, whoever, like hit the stage and was doing
Speaker 4: it and then they launched them into their career. I've
Speaker 4: always had the Upmo Martin Dave Chappelle, like super respect
Speaker 4: for all of it. I just have never had the
Speaker 4: time to like live that life to build up into
Speaker 4: like a real stand up comic, so I don't necessarily
Speaker 4: consider myself that, you know. Actor.
Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, I'm sorry on you. That was
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 2: Broke time Karate's kit got there. The fly was just
Speaker 2: like the fly was like, oh shy keenan Domson, y'all,
Speaker 2: what's u.
Speaker 4: A man?
Speaker 2: That's my gun right there? You don't get it?
Speaker 4: You do?
Speaker 2: Like the that was the moment that that was? That
Speaker 2: was you waiting like that, go on to crack that flies?
Speaker 4: Wake up?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? Live?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: I was left wrong? You ever?
Speaker 4: You ever?
Speaker 5: These these are the experiences that like that, like like
Speaker 5: keep us you know what I'm saying like that, like that,
Speaker 5: like we relate to each other about like like falling asleep.
Speaker 5: You ever turned your grandma's TV off and she she.
Speaker 4: Waiting right up? Yeah? She wake up?
Speaker 2: Cut just watching.
Speaker 4: It's our noise machine. Noise machines came out. It would like,
Speaker 4: because that's how I sleep. I wake up and the
Speaker 4: TV has turned itself off, and like depending on how
Speaker 4: much I'm waking up, like I could be up for
Speaker 4: a while now that I notice that there's silence. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: and I'm like I gotta get up and like pick
Speaker 4: something else, like then I'm gonna really be up type shit,
Speaker 4: come on, Like I get it. Man.
Speaker 2: I had NBA TV on a loop and I'm good.
Speaker 4: I don't even hear a word.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for hours, Charles just talking about rebounds.
Speaker 4: You just woken up to like loud ass movies like that,
Speaker 4: seeing the heat when everybody's just gunning at the end,
Speaker 4: and just being like, oh man, it's the middle of
Speaker 4: the night, Like this shit is loud, and I didn't
Speaker 4: hear none of it. I just happened to like roll
Speaker 4: over and hear the fact that it was happening. I
Speaker 4: was like, wow, that's that's crazy, like that you just
Speaker 4: can't hear in your sleep.
Speaker 2: But this crazy it ain't working.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what the scare, the biggest jump scare
Speaker 5: when I was sleeping putting on the movie of course,
Speaker 5: Manchurian Candidate, When.
Speaker 6: Tel hit the table, when Thatel hit the table.
Speaker 5: Yeah, away, it's just me and danzelen room. I don't
Speaker 5: know why, sleepy brain. I'm like, he's in here.
Speaker 2: I'm listening. I'm listening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it reminds you of falling asleep in church. Asleep
Speaker 4: he be in church? Yeah, pitch what was that? Because
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, we we in the House of God
Speaker 4: and you you causing harm to me. It's warm, it's
Speaker 4: early younger singing. Yeah, I don't understand what y'all talk about.
Speaker 4: When they started breaking down the Bible and really reading
Speaker 4: it as a child, I'm like, like, what are these words?
Speaker 2: Like Grandma, I'm I don't know what's going on this.
Speaker 4: Man, You're supposed to be learning like picture stuff, man, wine,
Speaker 4: and I can't. I'm breaking down. Yeah, man, who what.
Speaker 2: Do you'll want me to drink? Blood?
Speaker 4: What is this?
Speaker 2: They need?
Speaker 5: They need a kids menu with crayons?
Speaker 4: The church? The church, like right, this is how you
Speaker 4: get Sunday school should be like from the joint. You
Speaker 4: shouldn't have to go to like adult church until you're
Speaker 4: an adult because it's too hard man preaching. I fell
Speaker 4: asleep one time. My mom made me stand up in
Speaker 4: the middle of church for the rest of the service,
Speaker 4: standing up like everybody else, sitting down like everybody knew
Speaker 4: I was on punishment, standing up while the preachers talking,
Speaker 4: and preachers just kept going Jesus, they knew, they knew
Speaker 4: you shouldn't have been sleeping Jesus something like she ain't
Speaker 4: even have to do you.
Speaker 2: Like that's crazy.
Speaker 4: Everybody looking around at everybody, all the moms and.
Speaker 3: Ye then that mother crazy ship is that Mother's Day
Speaker 3: He came home with the portrait of his mom with
Speaker 3: horns exactly history piece.
Speaker 4: That's what happens, man, crazy.
Speaker 3: You know, long career, bro, everybody is thirsty for nostalgia. Like,
Speaker 3: talk to me about what you've seen in the industry
Speaker 3: as far as like what's changed, what's stayed the same?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Because like I'm not I haven't been in there as
Speaker 3: long as you, and I've seen like things that I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I damn. Like when I came in, it was like, Yo,
Speaker 3: write a good show, get two hundred episodes, get into syndication.
Speaker 2: And chilli, and now that model is completely fried of lictory, like.
Speaker 4: Of lictory, like like like people used to retire off
Speaker 4: of one show, Like you get one show that runs
Speaker 4: in this syndication, that's it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like you ain't really heard from like besides, like Norman Lear,
Speaker 4: there wasn't after that era, there wasn't a whole bunch
Speaker 4: of people that were just like no, I did Friends,
Speaker 4: Fresh Prints, this, that, and the other deck Those are
Speaker 4: all my shows, you know what I'm saying, Like because
Speaker 4: you just don't have to and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: what's really important in life comes to play because most
Speaker 4: of those people are starting to be middle aged sopranos.
Speaker 4: Dude only did kind of that in like a little
Speaker 4: bit of Boardwalk, but like in and out of Boardwalk,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like focus on as a pranos.
Speaker 4: That was a run that was a gone good yea,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, So any like long version
Speaker 4: of that, like it's usually like a one and done
Speaker 4: kind of thing. The dynamics of like getting money has
Speaker 4: been the biggest change I think. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Shit used to be so abundant and now it's so
Speaker 4: tight in certain places, you know, other places is just
Speaker 4: like oh yeah, pump all the money into you know
Speaker 4: whatever type shit. But then if you want to do
Speaker 4: like a if you wanted to do the Goonies today,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, And which is like one
Speaker 4: of the most epic eighties joints there is it probably
Speaker 4: wouldn't happen because you like, okay, explain it to me,
Speaker 4: like how many locations and who's in it and blah
Speaker 4: blah blah. There just a bunch of no names. Like
Speaker 4: it's a difference and.
Speaker 2: A partnership.
Speaker 4: Yeah, risk taking on storytellers is real tight, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But then you have you know, people
Speaker 4: that are making like four million dollars a month on
Speaker 4: only fans. Like there's money out there, it's just how
Speaker 4: it's being used. Basically, it's the biggest difference, I think. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And then yeah, like you have a four hundred million
Speaker 4: dollar movie that they consider a flop because they made
Speaker 4: three hundred right saying, So it's like a hundred million
Speaker 4: dollar loss at the end of the day, no matter
Speaker 4: how much it costs or whatever, and how much it made,
Speaker 4: Like it still made three hundred million, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But they calling it an actual flot like
Speaker 4: the usage of that word and like wordage, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, It's a lot more like sinister. It
Speaker 4: feels like these days, you know what I'm saying, a
Speaker 4: lot of people are just constantly waiting to take down
Speaker 4: giants or anybody that's on a pedestal or whatever kind
Speaker 4: of shit. I mean. At the same time, why would
Speaker 4: you spend four hundred million dollar? Who on? What? What
Speaker 4: are you spending four hundred on? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: I saw the movie, so I'm like, where exactly did
Speaker 4: where did it go? I means some people just don't
Speaker 4: have the numbers. These are the numbers. The numbers are
Speaker 4: in certain people's hands, and they're not willing to share
Speaker 4: it on all sorts of basises. Yeah, and it's even yeah,
Speaker 4: it's tougher, like even when they have the black voices categories.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, It's like, alright, well all
Speaker 4: these projects look like they're under budget. Yeah, what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: so like, how are we supposed to be gaining any
Speaker 4: sort of traction as far as like what's considered to
Speaker 4: be dope or cool? At the end of the day,
Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, yes, you let out a bunch of
Speaker 4: stories and like there's a bunch of projects that were
Speaker 4: shot mm, but like what was the real budget and
Speaker 4: who really did it and who was the pedigree on
Speaker 4: these things? You know what I'm saying, Like Tyler Perry,
Speaker 4: like I feel like his shit is just now getting tight,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. In the beginning, it was like,
Speaker 4: you know, of like now it's like all his productions
Speaker 4: are like super thorough, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 4: it looks, you know, like you can put a Tyler
Speaker 4: Perry movie next to any other movie and you can't
Speaker 4: tell it. He doesn't say Tyler Perry presents. Yeah, And
Speaker 4: like that's the level of you know, equality that we
Speaker 4: are striving for kind of thing. But equality means financi
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, more so than anything, because
Speaker 4: it has to look a certain way, and then you
Speaker 4: have to be able to hire certain people that are
Speaker 4: good at what they do. That's why they are expensive.
Speaker 4: Taji is expensive because she's good at what she does,
Speaker 4: even though he's the one that's constantly paying her in
Speaker 4: elevating her a lot of the time. But you know,
Speaker 4: when she does get an empire or something or you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, or whatever, she destroys it because
Speaker 4: she's fantastic and she deserves to be expensive. Kiki should
Speaker 4: be one of the most expensive people out there, what
Speaker 4: I mean by long word. So it's just you know,
Speaker 4: a little more stringent in certain places. It feels like,
Speaker 4: but they're still ginormous things happening.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Center is a great example. Like people
Speaker 5: consider Center as like a fluke or like, yeah, some type.
Speaker 4: Of you know what I mean, like a like a.
Speaker 5: And it's like, nah, like that's just that's just what
Speaker 5: happens when you let an all tour create.
Speaker 4: Like I feel like Ryan is a student in the
Speaker 4: game behind Spielberg as far as like highest grossing for sure,
Speaker 4: And that's incredible because he's done that in five movies.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Spielberg's got thirty or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's like if if I had the
Speaker 4: same amount of like movie industry money that Sam Jackson
Speaker 4: had made, you know what I'm saying, because like he's
Speaker 4: been in every billion dollar thing that ever has been
Speaker 4: and then I came behind and like happened to be
Speaker 4: in like four or five choice joints that did the
Speaker 4: same amount of numbers. Kind of shit, Like that's what's
Speaker 4: happening with Ryan Cooper. So he deserves that that credit.
Speaker 4: Like these ain't flukes. That man is dope and he
Speaker 4: knows what's appealing to his audiences. And you know all
Speaker 4: that kind of shit in the game.
Speaker 2: Type shit too.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: You can tell he's he enjoys what he does.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 5: I watched I watched his Criterion Closet video and like
Speaker 5: all his choices were bangers, bro like he was this
Speaker 5: mother player.
Speaker 2: It's like he knows bro.
Speaker 5: He knows like like bro one of his choices loving basketball.
Speaker 2: I was like yes, I was like, that's.
Speaker 1: How you know how to write them stand lath Yeah yeah, man,
Speaker 1: that's not like them for real, big shut out.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Uh, we living in a size the world I said
Speaker 3: it before, is there, but you stay working, you stay
Speaker 3: with the job. You know things have gotten tight, but
Speaker 3: Keen and thim said it is still Kenny tops name
Speaker 3: rings bellsho, stay with the job.
Speaker 2: Is there a world work? Yeah, busses on busses on bustings.
Speaker 3: Uh is there a world where you I mean, you've
Speaker 3: done it before, right. Good Burger two was like going
Speaker 3: back to like older material, older projects. Is there ones
Speaker 3: that you would want to do and is there ones
Speaker 3: that you were like, Nah, I'm not going back to that. Well,
Speaker 3: like that ship has sailed.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even be feel comfortable doing that at this age.
Speaker 4: I mean, the only one is the only nah, I guess,
Speaker 4: and like is fat out, but only because it belongs
Speaker 4: so closely to Bill, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 4: like that's the only one where I can see it
Speaker 4: just not happening, you know what I'm saying. So like
Speaker 4: getting your hopes of about it is just like don't
Speaker 4: even waste your time kind of shit, because like that
Speaker 4: is completely his baby, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: without him, like what what's even the point, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So like we got what we got,
Speaker 4: and like it was a good experience, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, because it was before all the chaos, and
Speaker 4: like when people watch it, they feel good. When kids
Speaker 4: watch it to this day, they tell me they feel
Speaker 4: this colorful movie. I get it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It looks like Paw Patrol. I get it. I get it.
Speaker 7: I get it.
Speaker 4: It's a happy ass and we had so much fun
Speaker 4: making it, you know what I mean saying. It's a
Speaker 4: very proud memory for me because we were all close
Speaker 4: and we were all you know, paying honor to and
Speaker 4: all that good ship. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: The cast was wild, Marcus, you're saying like you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like it was, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: It was a phenomenal like a Kyler shout out to Kyla,
Speaker 4: shout out to Donya. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, so the whole cast.
Speaker 3: But Yo, the funny thing that you said that reminded
Speaker 3: me of some that Victor said is like a lot
Speaker 3: of people that be like, yo, I like movies. I'm
Speaker 3: a movie I'm I'm a I'm a centophile. And it's
Speaker 3: just like, yo, bro, you just like bright colors, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Because if you just put this
Speaker 3: movie in black and white, right, it's not spectacular.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 4: You just like, whoa, Yeah, that's that's trash that they're
Speaker 4: playing around it. Yeah yeah yeah man. But the rest
Speaker 4: of them, I'm yeah, any of it. Like I understand
Speaker 4: like the arguments of like you know, Hollywood doesn't have
Speaker 4: any original stories or whatever kind of shit. It's like
Speaker 4: that's not really the case. It is just like it's
Speaker 4: harder to find them, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 4: because you'll look at them and be like how many
Speaker 4: times you look at you like your cable guide or
Speaker 4: even like any streamer that you're on you see titles,
Speaker 4: you don't recognize, you don't hyper focus on them, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So if it's something that everybody's
Speaker 4: talking about, like a centers or whatever, then you could
Speaker 4: like dive into it, but you just scroll past and
Speaker 4: like what the fuck is? You know what is and
Speaker 4: you just what is this? What is this?
Speaker 2: What is this? What is this?
Speaker 4: You're never gonna like, yeah, just engage it necessary and
Speaker 4: a lot of things are just sitting up there that
Speaker 4: nobody's seen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a it's a It lends itself to like
Speaker 5: decision fatigue too, like when you have when you have
Speaker 5: too many options, you end up.
Speaker 4: Choosing nothing oblict ob lictory.
Speaker 5: Like we're gonna have the numbers all right, listen now, now,
Speaker 5: keenan listen a streaming service you log in every single day,
Speaker 5: there are exactly two options.
Speaker 4: You pick one. You'll watch that. That's it. That's it,
Speaker 4: that's it. We got to answer any time. But this
Speaker 4: is it? This is this is it? Right here?
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 4: That's actually kind of genius.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Bill, there's a yeah, yeah, because one of my.
Speaker 4: Version is of that. I guess like drive ins will
Speaker 4: do that when they start showing nostalgia movies or whatever,
Speaker 4: and they be like, if these are the times that
Speaker 4: this is happening twice a week, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: And it's like if you don't catch it, then you
Speaker 4: just won't be watching a league of their own this week. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm glad we came because I love this movie.
Speaker 5: And if if it rains, no ja wanna man, I
Speaker 5: don't get ja wanna man, It's not gonna happen, you know.
Speaker 4: So between that and I guess the war on the
Speaker 4: movie theaters, it's kind of like the bigger difference, like
Speaker 4: the same thing in the music business, this is the
Speaker 4: war on streaming, you know what I mean, Like just
Speaker 4: digitization of what we do type shit is the biggest change.
Speaker 5: But how do you how do you feel being involved
Speaker 5: in SNL, which is like an institution in and of
Speaker 5: itself that sort of stands apart from the ever changing
Speaker 5: landscape of television.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very lucky, because like I've grown up with you know,
Speaker 4: actor friends, and like, you know, I have a lot
Speaker 4: of different cats that are like out here navigating in
Speaker 4: different ways, you know what I mean, And I'm always
Speaker 4: intrigued by how they figure it out. I mean it's
Speaker 4: a community. They all like are talking to each other,
Speaker 4: so everybody knows like all right, Vine is hot now,
Speaker 4: or you know this is hot now? Yes, hot now,
Speaker 4: but you have to go do something to it, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So a lot of motherfuckers is
Speaker 4: got a lot of like you know, self kind of
Speaker 4: you know, motivation kind of ship, which I admire a lot.
Speaker 4: Like I've been in a bubble for twenty two years,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying of not really having to
Speaker 4: over focus on trends necessarily to stay relevant, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like I'm in your house every weekend,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying when like people asking because because.
Speaker 5: One of those it's interesting for you. It's like, oh
Speaker 5: and kid, but you are you aren't the.
Speaker 2: Most Radio via Liz Bellerties.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta you gotta hit one of the say
Speaker 5: the radio BII.
Speaker 2: Again, Radio Vie.
Speaker 3: That's the ship I want to dude, not Red in
Speaker 3: my life, bro, I want him every time I walk
Speaker 3: into a restaurant.
Speaker 4: The House and Rest in Peace down Parto Man was
Speaker 4: one of the great absolute legend because Don was in
Speaker 4: there when it was radio and then he used to
Speaker 4: be one of the voices on television, on the radio
Speaker 4: basically like the original like broadcasting of sound basically, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like he was there in that building.
Speaker 2: He was there when you had to sound like that. Yes,
Speaker 2: what I mean, this was a radio boy, and.
Speaker 4: I think it might have became his person because like
Speaker 4: even all Stags was like how you're feeling Keenom. I'm like,
Speaker 4: hey man, you really talk like that. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: he was always that.
Speaker 5: He's like one of my favorites, all right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: he's like bizarro e forty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's normal. Normal.
Speaker 2: We got Katy Chops shout out to the.
Speaker 4: Shout out all that good forty water music short, oh man, drain.
Speaker 4: That's what we need more of, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: like just shouting each other out. You know, like I
Speaker 4: understand like there's a new hip hop beef happening and
Speaker 4: like every West coast is going in, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. It's like it's good back and forth and
Speaker 4: it's like all right, as long as y'all keep it like,
Speaker 4: you know, keep it hip hop, inspiring to each other
Speaker 4: to write better and all that thing. It's not just
Speaker 4: you know, dissing for distance sake. Ben great, but at
Speaker 4: the same time we all know, like feelings get stepped
Speaker 4: on and you know, things escalated whatever. So it's just
Speaker 4: it's hard to navigate, you know what i mean, because
Speaker 4: like these kids are living in such a turmoil tumultuous
Speaker 4: world as it is kind of ship like and break
Speaker 4: the community that's right in front of you. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, You're going to need each other probably
Speaker 4: pretty soon, very soon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, we do a segment on this show where
Speaker 3: we ask our stem guest to give us a conspiracy
Speaker 3: theory that they really believe wholeheartedly.
Speaker 2: It's called the tim fold fitted segment. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. You put the tim four.
Speaker 3: Fitted on to take your head from the five g's
Speaker 3: five raised.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Dolly your third eye. It
Speaker 2: is supremely uncomfortable.
Speaker 6: By the way, it's like blood timon. But like you know,
Speaker 6: blue timing on YouTube.
Speaker 3: So a conspiracy theory that you believe or that you
Speaker 3: find interesting enough to say, you know what, there might
Speaker 3: be something behind that.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of them, Like I read these,
Speaker 4: you know theories, a lot of different theories on a
Speaker 4: lot of different things. One of my the most intriguing,
Speaker 4: I'm when people chime in on I hear the comments
Speaker 4: already he's a fucking idiot, blah blah blah, you shouldn't mean.
Speaker 4: But I was reading about the O J case and
Speaker 4: then there's one cop wrote this book about OJ's oldest
Speaker 4: son being the actual person that when it was just
Speaker 4: like cause I read through it pretty intriguering, and I've
Speaker 4: always been enamored by the stalemate of it all. It's like, yo,
Speaker 4: if y'all got him Colt Turkey, you got him cold chucker.
Speaker 4: What's the problem? You know what I'm saying, Yeah, but
Speaker 4: you know it just yeah, number one a jeury acquitted
Speaker 4: and then number two you know he was just never
Speaker 4: like something about the retrial, like once you've been acquitted
Speaker 4: or something, you can't try it again, ye know. So
Speaker 4: like that's why I said theory, you know. Yeah, So
Speaker 4: I'm like, but listening to that that, I'm like, that's
Speaker 4: pretty There was a lot of facts in there, like
Speaker 4: it's hat like maybe shit or whatever from his knife,
Speaker 4: like m maybe issue knife having like a little skull
Speaker 4: crush is what they call it. You know, I don't
Speaker 4: want to get too like graphic or whatever, but like
Speaker 4: those kind of wounds had shown up on victims and
Speaker 4: like hmm, just that like how it all went down
Speaker 4: to where if he didn't do it, how would he
Speaker 4: even be like finger pointed as a witness seeing him
Speaker 4: there like all these like breakdowns, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, as a parent listening to this version
Speaker 4: of the story, like if my son came home and
Speaker 4: admitted to me these things, would I go to that
Speaker 4: scene and see and like explain the timing of it,
Speaker 4: and shit like there was little like a lot of
Speaker 4: little detail where I was just like, wow, that's kind
Speaker 4: of crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I thought he was gonna go with the
Speaker 3: other OJU conspiracy theory, which is Chloy Kardashian.
Speaker 2: Is his daughter.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that one has its own sub conspiracy
Speaker 4: where it was like some makeup dudes. So I was
Speaker 4: just like, all right, I'll let that personal business and
Speaker 4: I wish them one, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 4: like blah blah blah. Chloe is that she's a sweet girl,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. She seems to be like
Speaker 4: the nice one ship a lot of the time, Kim
Speaker 4: people are dying you know, damn, damn.
Speaker 2: I gave it to Chloe damn wash Like she.
Speaker 4: Seemed to be the one that's like really trying to
Speaker 4: like fit in and be in, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like so like, yeah, I let that one go, but
Speaker 4: that old that ship was wild, bro, Like I was like,
Speaker 4: that's interesting. See now you got me jump out of YouTube. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the two rabbit holes.
Speaker 2: As I get home.
Speaker 4: As soon as I got home, I read up on it.
Speaker 4: I mean, I could be sounding like an idiot because
Speaker 4: somebody be like, well, DNA evidence came back and it
Speaker 4: was like you would never unless literally nobody, nobody could
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, because DNA will tell you down
Speaker 4: to the micro one millions up and it's gotta be
Speaker 4: And I'm like all right. And then I also heard
Speaker 4: like if anyone's DNA was within those parameters, it would
Speaker 4: be your first born child.
Speaker 2: That's how every law and er s FORU ends. Yeah
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And this is how victory
Speaker 2: like is.
Speaker 4: Lictory like like.
Speaker 5: Like m mm hmmm mmmmmmm
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, a lictory like like like like