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Speaker 1: Welcome inn. It is the Thursday edition. Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton show. A lot of different breaking news, many different fronts.

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Speaker 1: We're going to try to keep you updated on everything.

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Speaker 1: Let me hit you right off the top. Columbia University

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Speaker 1: major protests as the library was taken over last night,

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Speaker 1: lots of people arrested. It seems like there might finally

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Speaker 1: be some consequences for these crazy looney bin college protesters.

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Speaker 1: We will discuss that story with you just now. I

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Speaker 1: believe he is still speaking in the White House, Trump

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Speaker 1: announcing a major trade deal with England that has sent

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Speaker 1: stocks soaring yet again. You've noticed probably that as the

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Speaker 1: stock market has been increasing, suddenly there is no reference

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Speaker 1: to the stock market. I believe I'm correct in this

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Speaker 1: on CNN and on MSNBC. Stock Mart get SMP five

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Speaker 1: hundred up one point three percent.

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Speaker 2: Now this morning.

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Speaker 1: And to kind of put that in context, all of

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Speaker 1: the collapse in stock prices that happened in April has

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Speaker 1: been eradicated. If you bought near the low, you are

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Speaker 1: approaching a twenty percent increase in your value.

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Speaker 2: If you just held on like we told all of

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Speaker 2: you to do.

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Speaker 1: Channeling Warren Buffett don't overreact, don't let MSNBC and CNN

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Speaker 1: drive you bonkers. You are essentially, as I am speaking

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Speaker 1: to you right now, stocks are at the exact same

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Speaker 1: valuation they were right before Trump was elected president, exact

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Speaker 1: same price as they were on November fourth. So we

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Speaker 1: have effectively basically got stocks right where they were when

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Speaker 1: Trump was elected. All of that matters because Trump is

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Speaker 1: right now speaking. He said, hey, you know what, if

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Speaker 1: we could actually get the Fed to cut interest rates,

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Speaker 1: we would have even faster growth coming forward. But I

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Speaker 1: think the attack on Trump for stock prices is going

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Speaker 1: to go the way of the attack on Trump for

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Speaker 1: kil maar a brao Garcia. That is, it's going to

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Speaker 1: vanish and they're going to pretend they never said it

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Speaker 1: ever in the past, which is a good sign. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you know, kill Mark Abrego Garcia. They're running out of

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Speaker 1: room on that one. He's not a human trafficker, He's

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Speaker 1: a homo sapien entrepreneur.

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Speaker 2: Even yeah, it's very funny.

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Speaker 1: Even Buck they've stopped referring to him as a Maryland

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Speaker 1: dad and they're now calling him an El Salvadoran. Even

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Speaker 1: the legacy media is like, well, maybe this guy wasn't

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Speaker 1: just a Maryland dad, he was in fact a human trafficker,

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Speaker 1: according to multiple reports. Now they used to have the ability,

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Speaker 1: and I mean they had it, really, they had it

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Speaker 1: until this last election. At some level. I think it's

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Speaker 1: truly gone now. Clay were they could force feed a

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Speaker 1: narrative and make Trump and his team play defense no

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Speaker 1: matter how crazy, no matter how wrong, how big the lie.

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Speaker 1: They just can't really do that anymore. The opposition that

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Speaker 1: the counter punch from Trump, from this White House, from

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Speaker 1: the media, from this show, from other big shows out

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Speaker 1: there that are doing great work, the CounterPunch is too

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Speaker 1: much for them now. So they again it's not just

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Speaker 1: they have no messaging as a party. Their ability to

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Speaker 1: force feed messaging is not what it used to be

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Speaker 1: by a long shot. Okay, Biden on the View will

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Speaker 1: have some cuts for that. We're gonna play cuts for

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Speaker 1: Trump in the White House talking about the new deal

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Speaker 1: with Great Britain. But I am told there is also

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Speaker 1: white smoke, meaning we now have a new pope. We

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Speaker 1: do not yet. I'm scrolling through social media to try

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Speaker 1: to catch up with the absolute latest. We do not

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Speaker 1: yet have a name. Is that correct team? The name

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Speaker 1: would imagine in short order we will have a name

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Speaker 1: not we have any any knowledge to share with you

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Speaker 1: of the new popes. Okay, a bunch of different things

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Speaker 1: out there, let's start with this. I mentioned the stock

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Speaker 1: everyone is preparing for the new pope. But we'll get

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Speaker 1: you that. In the meantime, Trump with the Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: This is a very special day because it's victory day

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Speaker 3: World War two May eighth, and just by happenstance, we

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Speaker 3: have the Prime Minister on the phone and we were

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Speaker 3: the same day that we had a great victory, the

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Speaker 3: part of it, and so was the UK, and it's just,

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Speaker 3: I guess, I don't know what you call it. It's

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Speaker 3: just incredible that that day is the same day that

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Speaker 3: we signed a tremendous trade deal for both countries.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that we should mention as well eightieth anniversary of

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Speaker 1: victory in Europe day, one of the greatest days in

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Speaker 1: the history of Western civilization. Frankfully Thankfully cut four is

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Speaker 1: the British ambassador to the US, praising Trump for getting

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Speaker 1: this new trade deal done.

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Speaker 2: Listen to that.

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Speaker 4: You've done what you said you would do. You said

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Speaker 4: to the Prime Minister when he came and we visited

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Speaker 4: in the Oval, that you would do a good trade

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Speaker 4: deal with the United Kingdom, that you would do it

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Speaker 2: You know, you've been true to your words.

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Speaker 4: So thank you very much indeed for that.

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Speaker 1: So that is the resolution we're going to have. We

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Speaker 1: told you this was going to happen. You can criticize Trump,

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Speaker 1: but did anybody really think that he was not going

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Speaker 1: to allow the stock market to flourish? I mean, this

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Speaker 1: ludicrous out there. I would suspect buck. And we have

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Speaker 1: told people this would be likely happening. We will see

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Speaker 1: in short order rapid rollouts of a variety of different

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Speaker 1: major new trade agreements that will ultimately lead to the

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Speaker 1: US and China being on an island squaring each other

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Speaker 1: I think that's going to be decided. I predicted by August.

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Speaker 1: So the markets are increasingly becoming it seems to me

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Speaker 1: cognizant of that fact. And we hope you held onto

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Speaker 1: your stocks. Then if you bought any down down in

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Speaker 1: the gully, you are, you're walking really strong today. Well,

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Speaker 1: do we have to start getting you to do at

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Speaker 1: Wall Street, which is a movie that holds up, by

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Speaker 1: the way, fantastic. Yes, Clay, you gave everyone very good advice.

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Speaker 1: The advice is bet on America, and Trump knows what

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Speaker 1: he's doing. If we were to summarize this right, I

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Speaker 1: have have shown that everyone need there's no need for panic.

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Speaker 1: Anything like that was absurd. But it also shows you

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Speaker 1: that a lot of the people who are supposed to

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Speaker 1: the market have no idea what the heck they're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Yees, oh my gosh, you know all the hedge fund

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, trust me, the hedge funds have to chase

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Speaker 1: they're not just going to take the money out of

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that all is to the good.

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Speaker 1: And we still don't have the name of the pope,

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Speaker 1: the new Pope, which is exciting for all of us

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Speaker 1: who are Catholic. I've got to figure out, Clay, how

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Speaker 1: to get my son baptist? Are your kids baptized? I

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Speaker 2: Boy bapt Well, you get sprinkled right in the Catholic faith.

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Speaker 1: I mean, don't you get sprinkled? Is that like a

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Speaker 1: water over the head. No. No, baptism, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: Baptism is like old school, like you have to be dunk.

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Speaker 1: You know, you don't got babies. You don't dunk babies. No,

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Speaker 1: you sprinkled, you sprinkled the babies. Oh yeah, the Baptists

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Speaker 1: back in the day. I got Yeah, I got fully immersed.

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Speaker 1: Oh of course.

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Speaker 2: Baby Clay. They don't. They don't like throw it in

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Speaker 2: the river and see what happens. Yeah we know.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm saying, but there is no full immersion

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Speaker 1: putting me on on the there's so many listening who

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Speaker 1: No, Look, in the Baptist church there is a water

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Speaker 1: like a pool behind the choir and during the actual ceremony. Now,

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Speaker 1: Were you Were you ever in the choir? No, I'm

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Speaker 1: told you got out because of your flute playing. Right

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Speaker 1: Like you got a flute playing.

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Speaker 2: I told you this.

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Speaker 1: So I'm tone deaf. I'm not allowed other than my

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Speaker 1: also tell you, guys, as we're sitting here looking at

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Speaker 1: more of these coming and it's all right, and the

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Speaker 1: thing is clear. There's momentum to this because you get

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Speaker 1: Trump has made this clear all along. You come forward,

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Speaker 1: you want to make a deal, now, that's great. You

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Speaker 1: want to be a pain in the butt like China,

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Speaker 1: We've also got some phenomenal guests today. We have a

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Speaker 1: Again, I've already been excommunicated from the Faith for talking

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Speaker 1: Ron Johnson, Senator from Wisconsin, lots to dive into with him.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate him as always hopping on the show with us,

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Speaker 1: and let's start right here off the top. Senator, a

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Speaker 2: What do you like? What do you not like about

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Speaker 5: Cool? Guys, Well, I hate to be the skunk in

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Speaker 5: Twenty nineteen, we spend four point four trillion dollars this year,

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Speaker 5: We'll spend a little over seven trillion. That's a fifty

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Speaker 5: So what the House is working on right now is

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Speaker 5: During World War two, spending increased five hundred seventy eight percent, okay,

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Speaker 5: ten times that amount, But within seven years the started

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Speaker 5: the federal government's doing. So again, we have to return

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Speaker 5: It seem like President Trump was on board of that.

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Speaker 5: But also have a process to achieve and maintain it.

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Speaker 5: I've always been in favor of a multi step process.

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Speaker 5: Provide the border funding, the defense funding. By the way,

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Speaker 5: a pretty good thing to do. But again, we're involved

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Speaker 1: All right, Senator Johnson, appreciate you being with us and

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Speaker 1: that detailed assessment of what is in the big beautiful bill.

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Speaker 1: How much of the cuts I mean, I'm trying to

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Speaker 5: What's what's happening here, Well, let me tell you what

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Speaker 5: So they've shown how to do it. The problem is

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Speaker 5: So again, Unfortunately, we have big spenders in our party.

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Speaker 5: And listen, I ran in twenty ten because we were

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Speaker 5: And again, what we're talking about is adding another twenty

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Speaker 5: It actually increase the deaficit.

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Speaker 2: But where are the spending cuts? Kind of you. You

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Speaker 5: What a scam, you know, what, what a chump the

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Speaker 5: But again you go line by line through twenty four

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Speaker 5: Take a look at a couple of things like medicaid.

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Speaker 5: You know, everything else is saying, can't touch that, can't

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Speaker 5: I gotta believe it now. If it's not there, you know,

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Speaker 5: I'll roll over and say, Okay, that's as good as

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Speaker 5: we can do. But we have to go line by

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Speaker 5: line to thousands of lines of budge sharing process. We

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Speaker 5: have to do the work.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Senator on Johnson and Wisconsin. I agree

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Speaker 1: with everything you said, and a lot of the people

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Speaker 1: listening to us right now agree with everything you said. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And one of the criticisms we get, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you hear it too, is if Democrats want to spend

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Speaker 1: eight trillion dollars and Republicans are willing to spend seven

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Speaker 1: trillion dollars, let's just say, what are we really voting

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Speaker 1: on here? How much difference? This is the argument right

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Speaker 1: the swamp, How much difference is really being made if

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Speaker 1: we're just talking about gradations of how much debt we're

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Speaker 1: going to undertake.

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Speaker 5: Well, again, what we're looking at right now in the

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Speaker 5: bill is a one point six percent reduction over ten years,

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Speaker 5: take eighty nine point three trillion down to little under

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Speaker 5: eighty eight trillion dollars. Again, it's it's not even a

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Speaker 5: rounding air. I mean, that's how insignificant it really is.

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Speaker 5: And so basically we're talking about is we're basically codifying

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Speaker 5: all of the Biden spending, all the Biden COVID spending.

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Speaker 5: I really don't think people that voted for President Trump

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Speaker 5: thought he would continue to spend at Biden's levels. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'll keep going back to the numbers because they are

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Speaker 5: just jaw dropping four point four to seven trillion dollars

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Speaker 5: fifty percent increase, And all we can do is drop

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Speaker 5: it by one and a half percent. It's just it's pathetic.

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Speaker 5: It's pathetic.

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Speaker 1: What happens if we don't if we don't do the work,

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Speaker 1: as you've been saying, what happens if we just say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, no one has the will. American people

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Speaker 1: aren't paying close enough attention. Let's just keep on rolling

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Speaker 1: this train down the road. What do you see in

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Speaker 1: the future.

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Speaker 5: Well, again, what I've been trying to convince the president

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Speaker 5: of and leadership is let's go back to the multiple

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Speaker 5: step approach. Get the border funding, get defense funding. Pocket

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Speaker 5: about eight hundred and fifty billion dollars of savings. I

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Speaker 5: think the House has found at least that pocket that

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Speaker 5: then just extend current tax law, take that out the table.

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Speaker 5: That put us in pretty good shape. That returns an

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Speaker 5: awful lot of certainty to the economy. But you know,

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Speaker 5: bottom line, guys, I mean, if we're not willing to

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Speaker 5: reduce spending to a reasonable pre pandemic level and we

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Speaker 5: still have deficits of one point seven one point eight

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Speaker 5: two trillion dollars some point in time, I guess we're

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Speaker 5: gonna have to pay for those and maybe have to

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Speaker 5: let tax race increase. I think that's a terrible idea.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to do it. I don't need anything

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Speaker 5: in return. I wouldn't bargain anything. It'd be a one

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Speaker 5: sentence bill, just extend current tax law. Because because if

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Speaker 5: we would have been smart enough back in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 5: if we would have had Chairman Crapo who said, hey, guys,

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Speaker 5: let's use current policy. There's no score there. This can

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Speaker 5: all be permanent, it doesn't have to automatically expire. But

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Speaker 5: we weren't smart. That was a blunder. It was a

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Speaker 5: huge blunder. So if we could have done it back then,

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Speaker 5: we would have. So I don't I don't want to score.

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Speaker 5: I just want to stand current tax law as awful

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Speaker 5: as it is. Get that done, and then we could

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Speaker 5: take the time to go line by line. We could

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Speaker 5: also be much more thoughtful in terms of the tax system.

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Speaker 5: I would love to simplify and rationalize our tax system

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Speaker 5: while we are providing the type of relief to working

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Speaker 5: men and women the President Trump campaigned on I'd love

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Speaker 5: to do that. We won't get that done in two weeks.

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Speaker 5: We won't get that done by July fourth. We'll end

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Speaker 5: up with a really ugly bill. That actually increased the

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Speaker 5: depthsit and we blow our one opportunity. This is a

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Speaker 5: once in a lifetime opportunity to reset federal spending that

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Speaker 5: has been exploded by Democrats. You know, the initial pandemic

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Speaker 5: spending does biparison, but we never should. We should have

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Speaker 5: returned to pre pandemic spending back in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty two. We haven't done it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on making this case. I agree

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Speaker 1: with everything Senator Ron Johnson just said. If people agree

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Speaker 1: with you, what would you ask them to do that

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Speaker 1: are listening to us right now?

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Speaker 5: Call their house members, call their senators, call the White House,

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Speaker 5: tell them we again, spending is a problem. I've got

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Speaker 5: a great video on my x page that everybody's saying,

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Speaker 5: we don't have around no problem, we have a spending problem.

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Speaker 5: From the president on down. Send that to him. Take

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Speaker 5: a look at that video. It runs about a minute thirty.

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Speaker 5: That's what we told our supporters. We don't have around

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Speaker 5: a new problem. We have a spending problem. The final

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Speaker 5: question is sort of willing to fix it right now?

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Speaker 5: It doesn't look like we are.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on making the case. We will

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Speaker 1: share that and in the meantime, best of luck as

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Speaker 1: we move through this process every day. That's center Ron Johnson.

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Speaker 1: I agree with everything he said. I think that going

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Speaker 1: back to the baseline pre COVID budget makes a ton

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Speaker 1: of sense. And you and I agree that this thirty

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Speaker 1: seven trillion dollars budget deficit at some point has to

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Speaker 1: be addressed. We're sort of living in a magical world

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Speaker 1: where we pretend that that deficit isn't real. And if

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Speaker 1: you look at what social Security, if you look at

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Speaker 1: what Medicare, Medicaid and interest is eating up on the budget,

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Speaker 1: there's just not that much outside of that arena that

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Speaker 1: can be cut that is going to get us back

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Speaker 1: to a balanced budget. I think it's like eighty six

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Speaker 1: percent of the budget is Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and

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Speaker 1: now interest on the national debt. By the way, interests

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Speaker 1: would be helped a bit if we could get the

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Speaker 1: Fed in action to start cutting interest rates. And Trump

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Speaker 1: interest rate as a country, and back in the COVID days,

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Speaker 7: Sometimes all you can do who is laugh And they

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Speaker 7: do a lot of it with the Sunday Hang.

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Speaker 1: We are on Pope Name Watch. We know there is

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Speaker 1: a pope, a new one has been chosen. The white

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Speaker 1: smoke has come out. We don't know which one. As

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Speaker 1: soon as we know, we will let you know. And

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Speaker 1: Raymond Arroyo of Fox News we talked to yesterday who

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Speaker 1: is an expert in all the papal candidates and is

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Speaker 1: in Vatican City right now. He is going to put

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Speaker 1: down his plate of spaghetti out of meat to balls

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Speaker 1: and call into us and tell us.

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Speaker 2: Exactly what is going on over there.

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Speaker 1: So it's well, not just the Catholics listening, but to

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Speaker 2: The new pope. We are on it.

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Speaker 1: We are watching, and as soon as word breaks about

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Speaker 1: who that white smoke smoke represents. You will have more

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Speaker 1: from us on that, to be sure, Yes, pointing at me.

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Speaker 1: Surging in the gambling markets. Luis Antonio Tagel is now

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Speaker 1: going head to head with Pietro Perolin For those of

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Speaker 1: Pietro Periline big favorite, our boy Pizza Bala is making

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a run now in the third

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Speaker 1: hole batting not quite clean up. But everybody else there's

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Speaker 1: only three people that are really getting any play at

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Speaker 1: all at this point in time, and I am joining.

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Speaker 1: Some of us are sitting and wondering who will be

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Speaker 1: Vickers Christ on Earth. Others are sitting here looking at

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Speaker 1: whether this is going to play out like the NFL draft,

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Speaker 1: And there'll be some people very disappointed, you know, not

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Speaker 1: that one cardinal is not going to get signed to

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Speaker 1: the deal he thought. It's going to be very sad

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Speaker 1: about it. But different approaches to this papal thing. So yes,

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Speaker 1: for sure, So we will supposedly, on average for people

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Speaker 1: out there, it takes about forty minutes after the smoke

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Speaker 1: is to to wind in, So we will see how

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Speaker 1: all that breaks down. The smoke will clear in about

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Speaker 1: forty minutes, so we will let you know. Well, it

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Speaker 1: was forty minutes a while ago. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the timing is now, we'll let you know as soon

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Speaker 1: as we know.

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Speaker 2: We're on it.

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Speaker 1: We're on and I promise it will be something to

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Speaker 1: address here as soon as we can. All right now,

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Speaker 1: in the meantime, oh my, we have Joe Biden who

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Speaker 1: has gone on the View because this is I think now,

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Speaker 1: is there a more central to the Democrat base show

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Speaker 1: on television than the View?

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure there is.

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Speaker 1: Morning Joe covered its solflf in ignominious stupidity in the

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Speaker 1: last and is the audience is tiny. It's amazing is

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Speaker 1: Morning Joe, their audience is a fraction, truly a small

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Speaker 1: fraction the size of the audience that you are all

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Speaker 1: a part of day in and day out on this show.

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Speaker 1: It's Starbucks sponsors Morning Joe, not sponsoring us. Well, we

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Speaker 1: got krack at coffee, but Joe Scarborough, I'm sorry, Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden is on the View and the dollars you've seen

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Speaker 1: this reporting, I'm sure Clay, the dollars have dried up

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Speaker 1: for the Biden family business. Oh my, what a shock.

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Speaker 1: You mean that when he's not just able to be

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Speaker 1: a pass through for bribes, that people don't actually care

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Speaker 1: to pay Hunter Biden huge sums of money to do nothing.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this is a shock to no one.

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Speaker 1: But remember the dishonest media. The same media that told

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Speaker 1: you Biden does not did not have dementia, is the

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Speaker 1: media that told you Hunter Biden went to Yale Law school.

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Speaker 1: Maybe people were just paying him because he's so smart, right,

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Speaker 1: But then there's this Clay. This is cat thirty. Biden

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Speaker 1: was asked would he have beaten Trump?

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're all going to want to hear this one.

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Speaker 8: Listen, you had previously said that you thought that you

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Speaker 8: would have won. Since then, Donald Trump won all the

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Speaker 8: battleground states and made in roads with almost every major demographic,

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Speaker 8: from working class voters to Hispanic men to black men.

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Speaker 8: Knowing what you know now, do you think you would

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Speaker 8: have beaten him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: He still got seven minute a fewer votes, yes, yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 9: a lot of people didn't show up. Number one, number one,

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Speaker 9: number two, they're very close in those those toss up

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Speaker 9: states it was. It wasn't a slam dunk. And so look,

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Speaker 9: I you know, every time I've been on the show,

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Speaker 9: which you've been, I've been fortunate beyond more than once.

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Speaker 9: Thanks for having me. Is that we talked. You guys

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Speaker 9: don't focus on as much. And I think it's good

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Speaker 9: pulling numbers, but thankful this way, he's had the worst

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Speaker 9: one hundred days any presidents ever had.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean delusional, but yeah, that's a fact.

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Speaker 2: Delusional. I would just say this though, Clay, I actually

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Speaker 2: I don't know. This is where we we. I'm not

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Speaker 2: trying to re litigate this, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I think that they were dumb to abandon Biden in

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Speaker 1: favor of Kama Like, even with what happened, I really

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Speaker 1: do believe that. I think Trump still would have won,

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Speaker 1: but I think it might have been a little bit tighter.

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Speaker 1: There's also the question of seven.

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Speaker 2: Million more votes. Seven million more votes.

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Speaker 1: Really, well, that's first of all, not even true in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, because Trump got seventy seven million votes

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Speaker 1: and I think Kamala got like seventy five or seventy

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Speaker 1: four point eight or something like that the final numbers.

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Speaker 2: But she got I guess quite a lot less votes.

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Speaker 1: I think even Democrats are having a hard time explaining

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Speaker 1: how Joe bid and got eighty one million votes in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. You notice they don't really talk about rigged

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Speaker 1: elections anymore, or twenty twenty at all.

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Speaker 2: That story just kind of vanished.

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Speaker 1: I think when you look at the Trump era and

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Speaker 1: you compare Biden, let's say, twenty twenty with Obama twenty twelve,

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Speaker 1: with Trump sixteen twenty and twenty four, there's only one

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Speaker 1: election in the twenty first century that you look at

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Speaker 1: the vote totals and you're like, boy, some that's really

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Speaker 1: out of whack here, and it is Biden twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: a president that was never very popular, suddenly, out of nowhere,

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Speaker 1: gets twelve million more votes than the best Barack Obama

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Speaker 1: ever did. The only person I think that believes that

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Speaker 1: that was one hundred percent legitimate maybe Joe Biden, and

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Speaker 1: that's because his brain doesn't work. How how could you

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Speaker 1: if that is something that everybody had so much faith in,

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Speaker 1: How could you abandon the guy who still the guy

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Speaker 1: who got by far the most votes of any president

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Speaker 1: in the history of the country.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? If you look at this from.

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Speaker 1: The Democrat point of view, he is the high water

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Speaker 1: mark more so than Obama by far. Buck It's sixty

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Speaker 1: nine million, I believe, was the most votes that Obama

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Speaker 1: ever got in two thousand and eight. Biden got twelve

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Speaker 1: million more than the best Obama ever did in twenty

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Speaker 1: Even if you control for population growth, you know, the

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Speaker 1: increase in population since then, I don't know, maybe the illegals.

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Speaker 1: Even if you do all that, that is an enormous,

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Speaker 1: an enormous gap between Biden and Obama. And there was

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Speaker 1: an enormous gap between Biden and Kamala. So we are

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Speaker 1: to believe that in the twenty first century, Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: is by far the dementia patient is the most compelling

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Speaker 1: Democrat who has ever run for office by far. That

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Speaker 1: is a hard thing to say out loud and not

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Speaker 1: start to burrow your brow a little bit and go, hmm.

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Speaker 2: Really, that's what we're all supposed to believe.

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Speaker 1: So now we get into you know, Biden and his

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Speaker 1: current position and what he's saying about all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: He's got to do this cleanup because no one cares

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Speaker 1: about Biden when he's not able to sell his office

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Speaker 1: which is what he was doing.

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Speaker 2: He was selling access to his office.

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Speaker 1: And you know Biden when he's trying to explain how

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Speaker 1: could Trump have beaten Kamala, this has cut twenty nine Clay,

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Speaker 1: he goes right to sexism.

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Speaker 10: Democrats were feeling optimistic about the vice president's chances of

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Speaker 10: winning the presidency, but then election night came and it

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Speaker 10: was like twenty sixteen all over again. So why do

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Speaker 10: you think the vice president lost? And were you surprised?

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Speaker 9: I wasn't surprised, not because I didn't think the vice

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Speaker 9: president was quote my person to be president. She is,

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Speaker 9: she's qualified to be president of United States of America. Well,

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Speaker 9: I was surprised. I wasn't surprised because they went the

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Speaker 9: root of the sexishirt of the whole roote. I mean,

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Speaker 9: this is a woman, she's this, she's I mean, really,

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Speaker 9: I've never seen quite as successful and a consistent campaign

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Speaker 9: under cutting the notion that a woman couldn't leave the

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Speaker 9: country and a woman of mixed trace.

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Speaker 1: He's just he's not I mean, he's not of sound mind.

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Speaker 1: And you can tell what he's talking about. This it's

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Speaker 1: just Blatherclay. It makes no what he says makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: Yes, totally and well, by the way, the pope.

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Speaker 1: We got the pope buck and it is already upset.

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Speaker 1: Cardinal Robert Prevost elected Pope Leo the fourteenth. The announcement

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Speaker 1: is now out there. This guy completely off the board

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Speaker 1: in terms of the gambling odds, and we need to

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Speaker 1: do quick research. Let's get get our bud Raymond Arroyo up.

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Speaker 1: This is uh Gurdusky just retweeted this Robert Prevost. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna look him up because I don't remember him even

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Speaker 1: being widely discussed in the in the run up to

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Speaker 1: who was going to potentially be the next pope. So

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Speaker 1: he's coming a little bit off the board. And uh,

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Speaker 1: let's see, I'm just trying to read about Prevos Pope

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Speaker 1: Leo the fourteenth. Interesting, I had not did we even

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Speaker 1: talk about this guy with Raymond yesterday?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: He Raymond did not even meet him, and he came

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Speaker 1: off the board. I mean I'm looking at you know,

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Speaker 1: I've been following it on the gambling odds. This guy.

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Speaker 1: Uh he's a is he from the US? I think

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Speaker 1: I'm learning about him in real time right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's go to Breake. Let's go to get Raymon to

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Speaker 1: tell you everything. We're gonna get Raymond on. He is

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Speaker 1: from the United States Buck. According to what I am

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Speaker 1: seeing on social media, this is would be the first

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Speaker 1: pope ever for from the United States, American. This is

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Speaker 1: American Pope. Robert Francis Prevost has been announced. Nobody saw

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Speaker 1: that coming.

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Speaker 2: He had as from Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Percent chance, Chicago, Chicago with the pope, yeah, out of nowhere.

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Speaker 2: Originally from Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Historic serves as the head of the church's dicastery for bishops.

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Speaker 1: Powerful position means he oversees the selection of new bishops. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's he's We got a Chicago guy. So not not

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Speaker 1: Pope Pizza Bagel, but Pope Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Very exciting. Look at that.

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Speaker 1: Who would have known, sixty nine year old from Chicago

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Speaker 1: seen as a compromise candidate. We have an American pope.

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Speaker 1: So maybe we're making a mayor great again and also

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Speaker 1: the world great again with an American pope. This is amazing.

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Speaker 1: So we will talk about this when we come back.

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Speaker 1: But again, breaking news. Robert Francis Prevost the first ever

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Speaker 1: United States pope. That's a big deal. This is a

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Speaker 1: huge two and sixty six pope. So far, not a

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Speaker 1: single one from America. So we got an American pope. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: this is big. This is bigger news than I was expecting.

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Speaker 2: Today, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: And I think this is great news for American Catholics,

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Speaker 1: the Catholic Church, Christianity, more broadly, Western civilization. We'll get

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Speaker 1: into all of that here coming up momentarily. But Leo

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Speaker 1: the fourteenth with the win on this one, and all right,

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Speaker 1: God bless Okay. Some folks speculate that we may see

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Speaker 1: are some very informed people who can see what's coming

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Speaker 1: And we got a new pope everybody. That's the big

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Speaker 1: news of the day, no question about it. The Catholic

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Speaker 1: Church has a new head, Leo the fourteenth, and now

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Speaker 1: everyone's diving into who is this guy? What do we

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Speaker 1: know about him? And finding a lot of interesting information

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Speaker 1: like the following. So he was supposed to be a

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Speaker 1: or supposedly a close colleague of Pope Francises. He is

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Speaker 1: from Chicago. He served most of his career in Peru.

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Speaker 1: He spoke in Italian and in Spanish. Now the Spanish

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Speaker 1: obviously he had lived in South America for most of

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Speaker 1: the time he was a priest.

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Speaker 2: Apparently didn't say anything.

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Speaker 1: In English, which is a little strange. I think some

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Speaker 1: people might have thought, well, that is your mother tongue

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Speaker 1: and there are Let me see what else am I

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Speaker 1: picking up here, Clay, we're looking at Leo fourteen stuff.

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Speaker 1: He's he was called the social Pope. Leo was rather

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Speaker 1: the previous Leo. Pardon me, the previous Leo was the

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Speaker 1: social Pope. He wrote the Rrum Novarum, which is an

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Speaker 1: encyclical that called for a living wage.

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Speaker 2: So people are.

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Speaker 1: Starting to see some things that are looking like he

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Speaker 1: could be a social justice heavy pope, and that's what

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Speaker 1: we seem to have on our hands right now. I

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Speaker 1: saw the Sean You've probably seen it too, the Sean

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Speaker 1: Davis tweet that's getting a lot of attention. Should we

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Speaker 1: tell everybody about this one?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, you want to hit it with it.

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Speaker 1: There's a bunch of stuff out there from his Twitter account.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the first popes probably ever that's

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Speaker 1: had a Twitter account. He's had an account since twenty eleven,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of it is reposts. A lot of

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Speaker 1: it is not direct quotes, but here's a direct comp

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Speaker 1: and I think I mentioned this in the last hour,

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Speaker 1: but directly he said jd Vance is wrong. Jesus doesn't

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Speaker 1: ask for us to rank our love for others. That

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Speaker 1: was a comment that he made in February of twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five and then LinkedIn article. And then he also

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Speaker 1: back in twenty fifteen, shared something from Cardinal Dolan at

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Speaker 1: the Washington Post. Now, Cardinal Dolan has had a good

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Speaker 1: relationship if I remember buck with Trump, he is New

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Speaker 1: York's Cardinal right, if I'm not mistaken, New York City

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Speaker 1: area cardinal. Why Donald Trump's anti immigrant rhetoric is so problematic?

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Speaker 1: That was something that Cardinal Dolan wrote on July thirty

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Speaker 1: first of twenty fifteen. He shared both of those, and

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Speaker 1: then there are multiple other posts that he has retweeted.

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Speaker 1: One of them says, I joined my vote voice and

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Speaker 1: prayers to those of my brother bishops that we might

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Speaker 1: work hard to end race in our hearts and in society.

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Speaker 1: May God give comfort to the family of hashtag George

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Speaker 1: Floyd in this time of anguish Yes, he also said

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Speaker 1: saying Trump's bad ombre's line fuels racism and nativism, California

867
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: bishops and preemptive blast on DACA repeal.

868
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: You're not gonna like this one.

869
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: Buck reposted this from sister Helen Praijean pray Gene. She's

870
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: the Louisiana if I remember correctly, right activist, I stand

871
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: with the dreamers and all people who are working toward

872
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: an immigration system that is fair, just and moral. Hashtag

873
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: defend DOCA. Hashtag DOCA. And this is recent as Trump

874
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 1: and Bucheley use oval fed's illicit deportation of a US resident.

875
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: DC Cardinal asked, do you not see the suffering? Is

876
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: your conscience not disturbed? How can you stay quiet? And

877
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: then also he reposted Chris Murphy, Senator from Connecticut to

878
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: my colleagues, your cowardice to act cannot be whitewashed by

879
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers. None of this ends until we do

880
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: something to stop it. I think that was potential violence.

881
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: Probably yes, in Connecticut, in the shooting that happened at

882
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: the elementary school. No, that was Andy whet I think

883
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: that's a Sandy hook tweet all those Andy Hope does

884
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: not know anything about guns. But that's a whole other conversation. Okay,

885
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: so those are all things that are being shared that

886
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: he has shared on his social media account.

887
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 2: On the flip.

888
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: Side, Yeah, on the flip side, buck Catholics. On the

889
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: flip side, he has voted typically in Republican primaries throughout

890
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 1: his voting history. But those social media account comments, again,

891
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: some of them are retweets, but suggestive that he may

892
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: be actually that he may be actually in some way

893
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: a a social justice warrior, as priests and now popes go.

894
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: So that is the background. Positive story is that for

895
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 1: the first time in the history of the Catholic Church

896
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: there is an American born pope from Chicago, went to Villanova,

897
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: majored in math there, and has lived all over the country.

898
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: But his most recent tweet was criticism of Trump and Buqueley.

899
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 1: So my thought is, on some level, all right, Southern

900
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: Baptist man, go for it. I'm fired up over here,

901
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: go for it. No, my thought on some level is

902
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: that this could be seen by the Cardinals as some

903
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: form of rebuke of Trump, and they picked an American

904
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: Catholic as a result.

905
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: Now, what's your announcements?

906
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 3: All that?

907
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think that is that they're

908
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: as focused in on that, you know, we do a

909
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: political first show here. I don't think that they're picking

910
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: the pope based upon who's going to be president or

911
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: who is president in one country of the of the

912
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: hundreds of countries around the world for the next few years.

913
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: So I look, this is a problem for a lot

914
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: of us who are on the right and who are Catholics.

915
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: And I do not hold myself out of somebody who

916
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: is particularly active or knowledgeable about the church these days,

917
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: although I did grow up very much enmeshed in I

918
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: mean we used to have clay. We used to have

919
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: church before our first soccer game or our first basketball

920
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: game of the season. I don't mean on a Sunday,

921
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: I mean like it was Monday morning, like first day

922
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: of this season.

923
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 2: Time to go to church.

924
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: And we used to go to church all the time

925
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: when I was in school, and we had chapel every

926
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: morning for ten years at my Catholic school growing up.

927
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, I've.

928
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: Spent a lot of time in these places and hearing this.

929
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: The challenge you have is I mean, the George Floyd

930
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: thing is is pretty remarkable. I just could say, you know,

931
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: there's just a poll that came out yesterday that most

932
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: people realize that the whole BLM thing just made everything work.

933
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: What I've been saying for years, what you've been saying

934
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: for years. Yeah, everything worse and did not make anything better,

935
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: nothing correct, no improvement from any of that, all of that.

936
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: But this is about a racial reckoning and racial justice. No,

937
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: actually it's not. It was race riots and it was

938
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: horrible and hurt the country. So anyway, the results now

939
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 1: are are are in on that, I mean the polling

940
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 1: results at least. The challenges you have here are one.

941
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: Let's just take this issue of the rebukes of and

942
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: can I You've got a lot of very active Catholics,

943
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: like some you could call in and do the whole

944
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: call in Latin. Okay, light us up here eight hundred

945
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: two A two two eight A two. Some of you

946
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: will have much more passionate feelings about this specific choice.

947
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: Uh and and are going to wann away And Clay

948
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: already said if you happen to know this pope from

949
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: when he was in Chicago, that would be very interesting.

950
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: Maybe one of you had him as a roommate at Villanova. Hey,

951
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: who knows, I mean, what do this? Don't me if

952
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: they're already to do some case stands you never know,

953
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: but I am I'm curious to hear from all of

954
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: you about this or we really are going to line up,

955
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: rack and stack a bunch of calls on how you

956
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: feel about this. But Clay, you know, for example, to

957
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: call out JD. Van s or to call out Bouquetley. Really,

958
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: that's that's where the worst human rights stuff is going on.

959
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: This is just left wing and doctrination. I mean, I

960
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: know that now he's you know, he's going to be

961
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: consecrated as the pope and it's a big deal, But

962
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: he was just a priest before this, and he was

963
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: a priest that clearly held some very left wing views,

964
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, not talking about about the the assault on

965
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: Christians in the Muslim world, or the suppression of Christianity

966
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: and just general authoritarianism in China and not talking of Ay.

967
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: There are so many areas, so many things you could

968
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: go into here, or so many leaders you could call out.

969
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 1: What about all these European leaders who are effectively for euthanasia?

970
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: Abortion all well, depends on which European country. Abortion usually

971
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 1: about six and six of the months of a pregnancy.

972
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: It depends on where you are, you know, all all

973
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: of the gender ideologies stuff, the destruction of the family,

974
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: the destruction of marital relationships, or rampant pornography, and I

975
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: mean just all that stuff that is supported by a

976
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: lot of leaders in the Western world. And you're calling

977
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: out Boukeley. What about what about saying thanks Boukeley for

978
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: taking the murder rate from one of the worst in

979
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: the world to one of the lowest in the world

980
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: and saving thousands and thousands of lives and hundreds of

981
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 1: thousands of people's lives in the sense that they didn't

982
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: just lose a family member or lose the guy that

983
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: was employing them in the business or whatever, because they

984
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: weren't murdered by some cartelmaniacs.

985
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: This is what you have. A tough time.

986
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: I had a very tough time with the last Pope,

987
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: and I just chose not to speak to my very

988
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: I have some very devout Catholic family members and I

989
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: cannot talk to them.

990
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: I couldn't talk to.

991
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: Them about the last Pope, really, because I had nothing

992
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 1: good to say about a lot of the statements climate

993
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: change stuff. It's a little bit like when a pope

994
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: talks about guns. There's just a lot of a lot

995
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: of ignorance and a bit of hubris, just saying you know,

996
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: if you don't know, you don't know.

997
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: I don't care what your role is.

998
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: So, like I said, I will put this out there,

999
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: but I hope that this Pope is fantastic on a

1000
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: whole range of other issues, and maybe there's an opening

1001
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: here for some great things to happen. I am hopeful,

1002
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: as one should be, that this Pope will be great.

1003
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: I would point out that when he shared two different

1004
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: posts about Trump and also about JD. Vance, there was

1005
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: well knowledge that Pope Francis was not well. And if

1006
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: you were playing the politics game and you were an American,

1007
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: I bet it does not hurt to not be pro

1008
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: Trump if you are trying to ascend to become pope.

1009
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 2: Look, so this is like this is a so Now.

1010
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: I had a grandparent who was very Catholic, as in

1011
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: I went to church not just every Sunday, but like

1012
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: random times during the week for her whole life. And

1013
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 1: but was also really into what what I would call

1014
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: the left wing. There's really there's really Catholic mark, there's

1015
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: a Catholic Marxist wing of the church. There's a she

1016
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: even subscribed to something called the Catholic Worker, which is

1017
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: effectively Catholic Communists, which I you know, Communism is always

1018
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: radically in practice, radically anti Catholic, anti God, and horrifically destructive.

1019
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: And I would even argue demonic, but unfortunately, you know,

1020
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: the devil. The devil is the father of lies and

1021
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 1: often presents himself, so to speak, as something quite appealing.

1022
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 1: And I think for a lot of Catholics, the well,

1023
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: we are all supposed to just give all we have

1024
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: and go follow Jesus, and that means we should have

1025
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 1: open borders and nobody should be wealthy.

1026
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

1027
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 1: I mean, the Vatican's got a lot of fancy artwork

1028
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: like this stuff starts to get really tough for people

1029
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: in the real world application. Again, there's a difference between

1030
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: the doctrine of the Church and what the Pope says

1031
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: as his opinion on things. And yeah, I on the

1032
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: doctrine stuff aligned on the pope's opinion stuff, I often

1033
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: find myself not aligned. And I wonder how many of

1034
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: you have the same have the same feelings. But on

1035
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: the good side of things, he's American, so we got

1036
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: that going for us. He's voted in a lot of

1037
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: Republican primaries and he's voted Republican. Well, I give him

1038
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: credit for this, and that's actually a very important reminder.

1039
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: I don't understand how you can be a practicing and believing,

1040
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: a practicing, believing Catholic and vote for the Democrat Party.

1041
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: And one of my problems would be that this pope,

1042
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: for example, calls out jade events. I mean, based on

1043
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: the church's own doctrine, I mean, Joe Biden, people that

1044
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: advocate for abortion for all nine months of a pregnancy

1045
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: and their public role should be excommunicated from the church.

1046
00:56:58,400 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: But they don't do that or even just have a

1047
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: called out. They won't do that, and that I think

1048
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: is a huge problem, a huge problem for a lot

1049
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: of us who say, okay, so you'll call out jd

1050
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: Vance or something on some I don't even know what

1051
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: it was, on like being open borders, which there's really

1052
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: also I mean, I think that some priests don't really

1053
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: understand this. To be honest with you, I studied with

1054
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: a lot of Jesuits. We're very smart on some things

1055
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: and truly ignorant on others. And you know they're not

1056
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: people that have had to pay a lot of bills.

1057
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: Just put it that way, they effectively live in communes.

1058
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: I mean they are in essence, the Society of Jesus

1059
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: is the closest thing to a functioning, an actual functioning

1060
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: communist system, at least the theoretical practice of it, that

1061
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: you'll find anywhere. And that's a joke that a Jesuit

1062
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: actually told me. So they don't understand things like if

1063
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: you have an open border in this country, all of

1064
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: the public welfare and you know, programs to help the

1065
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: poor in this country effectively go under because you're saying

1066
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: that all of these people have a claim to the

1067
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: program that we have that are meant to help people.

1068
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you don't pay into those

1069
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: programs the form of taxes, you go to prison because

1070
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: men with guns come and arrest you in the name

1071
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: of the state. It's not as simple as just like

1072
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of food, we're gonna feed everybody.

1073
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: I'd also point out he's from Peru now, and so

1074
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: I look at it politically. A lot of these guys

1075
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: are not going to be trying to draw attention to themselves.

1076
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: They're going to try to stay in whatever is considered

1077
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: to be the main stream. That's fine, and then ultimately

1078
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: the buck stops with you, no pun intended, when you

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