1 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,159 Speaker 1: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and 2 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: Kenny Florian. 3 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: I love him. 4 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him. 5 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 4: Let's hear that, bothronight, big job there, crank there fun 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 4: out There are a couple of absolutely self involved. 7 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: You are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian. 8 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 5: Hope the twenty four hour wait was not too inconvenient. 9 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 5: Thank y'all for checking back in, albeit on a Tuesday. 10 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 5: It is the twenty fifth of February. The year is 11 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 5: twenty twenty five. Happy birthday to my sister Tracy. It 12 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 5: is episode five nine Oh the anticin Floran Podcast starring 13 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 5: former three time UFC title challenger Kenny Florian. Still in 14 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 5: this sort of mustache slash beard phase, and we're here 15 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 5: for it. We're fucking here for It's. 16 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 6: A it's a blend. It's a blend. 17 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 7: I'm not sure how long I'll keep it. It's getting 18 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 7: less creepy over time, so yeah, we'll see. 19 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 5: I know you don't take fashion or image advice from me, 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 5: but I do think that the mustache is a good 21 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 5: look for you, right. I think if you scale back 22 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 5: the beard a little bit and just lean into the mustache. 23 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 5: I don't think the UFC necessarily knew what was going 24 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 5: on during the global pandemic when their lead play by 25 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 5: play god decided to wear a mustache on television, looking 26 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 5: like a serial killer for thirty six months. But here 27 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 5: we are, so yeah, we're here on a Tuesday. We 28 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 5: had some conflicts on a Monday. So it's good to 29 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 5: see a lot of mixed martial arts news. Right When 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 5: we think about a future in which this show could 31 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 5: be five days a week, five. 32 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 8: Mornings a week, like an MMA morning show. 33 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 5: It's because so much news breaks all the time, so 34 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 5: much so that we had an impromptu episod soon on 35 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 5: the Anticonploring podcast YouTube channel last week to sort of 36 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 5: get through all the UFC three fourteen and three fifteen 37 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 5: stuff in ili A Topoitia and everything else. 38 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 8: It's just the sport that keeps on giving. 39 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 6: Exactly, and sometimes it happens all at once, like it 40 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 6: did last week. 41 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 7: Man, Just so much news, so much to break down, man, 42 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 7: and uh, I'm happy to deal with you. 43 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 5: Dana White, And the UFC certainly has the ability in 44 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 5: the middle of the night to mess with a lot 45 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 5: of people who do this for a living if they 46 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 5: so desire, right, right, a journalist goes to bed and 47 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 5: all of this news breaks, And certainly there are people 48 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 5: at sites like MMA Junkie that worked through the night 49 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 5: to be able to cover such news. But when we 50 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 5: launched MMA live on ESPN dot com in two thousand 51 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 5: and seven and later migrated to ESPN two, we talked 52 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 5: about being five days a week, and we felt then 53 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 5: that the sport kind of necessitated it. So here we 54 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 5: are once or twice a week, as live as we 55 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 5: can be. But thanks everybody joining us on the DraftKings 56 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 5: YouTube channel live today and everybody else after the fact. 57 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 5: Antaconplorent podcast is presented by DraftKings. Draft Kings, the crown 58 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 5: is yours. So before we get into everything that happened 59 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 5: inside the octagon, there are some reports and it seems 60 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 5: as though the visual of Dan Hooker's hand is such 61 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 5: that these reports are accurate, and I'm sorry that I 62 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 5: don't have the proper credit here off the top of 63 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 5: the show. Perhaps my producer can chase that. But looks 64 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 5: as though Dan Hooker, you know, can't hunt what he 65 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 5: can't kill, and he will not be in hunting mode 66 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 5: coming up here. March eighth, at UFC three thirteen against 67 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 5: Justin Gage. He looks like a hand injury potentially another 68 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 5: break for Hooker. You know, he's had broken arms, he's 69 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 5: had all sorts of injuries, and it looks like he's out. 70 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 6: I'm disappointed. This is why we can't have nice things. Yeah, 71 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 6: I mean, listen, these guys are made for each other. 72 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 6: We talked about this before, and you know. 73 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 7: This was a fight that I think a lot of 74 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 7: fans were looking forward to, just based on the fact 75 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 7: that both these guys fight the same way and you know, 76 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 7: lead with their heart and their toughness, and this was 77 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 7: one of those that was kind of destined to be 78 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 7: a classic. And I don't think a whole lot of 79 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 7: people expected it to go to the score cards either. 80 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 6: So it's unfortunate, man. I think on another level, I'm 81 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 6: also kind of confused. 82 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 7: Is how you know pro m A fighters hurt their 83 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 7: hand to that extent where they can't continue. 84 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 6: You know, it's like, are we not wrapping our hands? 85 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 7: Are we not using the proper gloves and throwing way 86 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 7: too hard for the kind of equipment that we have. 87 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 6: And of course. 88 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 7: Freak things happen, and we don't have exact knowledge of 89 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 7: what the injury is is it a sprain? Is it 90 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 7: a break? Is it a break type of deal? But 91 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 7: either way, it's unfortunate. I feel bad for Hooker who 92 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 7: obviously was looking forward to this huge opportunity against a 93 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 7: huge star in just engauging. 94 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 5: I just want to follow up on that for a second, 95 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 5: because a lot of fighters will say the best place 96 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 5: to break your hand is in the octagon, and we 97 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 5: see it happen a lot in competition. So yeah, I mean, 98 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 5: you hate to sort of speculate as to what exactly 99 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 5: happened when this happened, but uh, you know, Dan Hooker's 100 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 5: been at this for a long time and it's really 101 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 5: disappointing for him because this was a major showcase of 102 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 5: five round comine event, just underneath Alex Padata and Maga 103 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 5: met Ankliab. Now there are myriad options for Justin Gaichee, 104 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 5: and he is that guy in many respects like Brendan Allen, 105 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 5: whom we will get to later in the program. Post 106 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 5: it on Instagram after losing to Anthony Fluffy Hernandez, I'm 107 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 5: not the guy that I thought I was. Justin Gaichie 108 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 5: has probably a few fights left in his career now. 109 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 8: If he beats Dan Hooker. 110 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 5: You can argue Justin Gaigie is back on a championship trajectory, right, 111 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 5: But Kenny, there's so many options right, there are gonna 112 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 5: be so many. I would think high profile willing parties 113 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 5: to take on Justin Gaigie on March eighth. Now, I 114 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 5: don't know if Arman Surgian is one of them, but yeah, 115 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 5: that fight makes a shit ton of sense. 116 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 6: Right. 117 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 5: Certainly, Ilia Topulia wouldn't appear to be a guy who's 118 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 5: gonna make his second UFC lightweight appearance and begin this 119 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 5: sort of lightweight run in two weeks on short notice 120 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 5: against Justin Geichie. But this sport has taught us stranger 121 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 5: things have happened. Other names have been bandied about. Rafaelhaziva 122 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 5: is trying to put himself in line for a rematch. 123 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 5: Hanato Moykano believes that he can get himself ready. Do 124 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 5: you feel like they can preserve this fight? And do 125 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 5: you feel like Justin Gaigee in terms of the upside 126 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,119 Speaker 5: would sort of be appetized. 127 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 8: By end of the options presented there? 128 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 7: Gosh, you know, obviously some of this falls on the 129 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 7: UFC and getting that right opponent, But I think most 130 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 7: of it at this stage, with this kind of time 131 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 7: factor involved, is going to is gonna come down to 132 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 7: justin Gaigie's appetite for the matchup. You know, does it 133 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 7: make sense for him at this stage of his career. 134 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 7: You know, does he still hope to get back to 135 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 7: that title contention status or is he just interested in 136 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 7: fun interesting fight. So I think that, you know, because 137 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 7: of the depth of the UFC's lightweight roster, and you 138 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 7: know how many great names and great fighters there are, 139 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 7: there's a ton of options that they have there. Obviously, 140 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 7: there's a ton of ways they can go with this. 141 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 7: I think Arman Serukian would yeah fight. I think that's 142 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 7: the one that stands out for me, especially given the 143 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 7: circumstances of his last fight. 144 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 5: So here's the thing. You know, who's ready? Diego Lopez 145 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 5: is ready? And here in lies a part of the problem, 146 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 5: because if you are chasing the UFC World Championship at 147 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 5: forty five or fifty five, and you're an elite guy, 148 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 5: you kind of gotta be ready if you're not injured, Kenny, right, Like, 149 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 5: I know a lot of these guys have had injuries 150 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 5: and they have to sort of do certain things when 151 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 5: it comes to the recovery and everything else to get 152 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 5: their bodies ready. But you can be sure if Diego Lopez, 153 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 5: who has a shot at the undisputed featherweight championship, you know, 154 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 5: was offered eight hundred k or a million bucks to 155 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 5: come up and save the day and fight Justin Geichie, 156 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 5: He's ready. Is Arman Sarkian ready? And if Justin Gaichi 157 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 5: wants to fight Islami Kashev, here's an opportunity. Beat Arman Sargian, 158 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 5: who is the number one contender, and then you wrap 159 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 5: up a shot at the title, then your next and 160 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 5: fans would have a huge appetite for Islami Kashev versus 161 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 5: Justin Gaichie. So I think for a lot of these lightweights, right, 162 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 5: I understand why Gechi wouldn't have an appetite to fight 163 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 5: Hinato Moi Kano or a rematch against Rafael Fhazibe at 164 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 5: this point, and I think you would fall in line 165 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 5: with my sentiment there, Kenny, right, But like Arman sarwugi On, 166 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 5: shouldn't he shouldn't he fight Justin Gaetchee on March eighth? 167 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 5: With all due respect, if you're chasing the world Championship, right, like, 168 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 5: we should be ready to go. 169 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 6: Well, I think it's a great opportunity for him, and again, 170 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 6: assuming he's healthy, absolutely he should step up to the plate. 171 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 7: And I'm not saying it was his fault with the 172 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 7: whole injury thing like that, but it is unfortunate for 173 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 7: the UFC's business when a fight goes down, especially one 174 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 7: that was as big as that one between Islam and 175 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 7: armand so here he has an opportunity to kind of 176 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 7: put himself back into the good graces of the UFC, 177 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 7: to kind of come back in there on a business level, 178 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 7: and then for himself, you'd beat just engageing that is 179 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 7: a very big deal. That would be a huge feather 180 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 7: in his cap. So now it just comes down to 181 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 7: what you are alluding to is are they ready? Are 182 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 7: they prepared mentally, physically, spiritually at this stage of the 183 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 7: game as a professional to be able to go win 184 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 7: there on. 185 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 6: Short notice like this. Well, I we'll see how it 186 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 6: all plays out. 187 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 5: Dan Hooker I think posting on his socials the video 188 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 5: with the swam in hand and sort of talking about 189 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 5: the fight in the past ten So we'll see what happens. 190 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 5: And at Anti Florian pot if you want to let 191 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 5: us know who you would like to see Justin Kachie 192 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 5: fight if he stays on the card at UFC three thirteen. 193 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 5: All right, lot to get to Let's get into the 194 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 5: UFC Fight Night Sahuto versus song Recap Headlines is brought 195 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 5: to you by Quervo. 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And I have to tell you, 197 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 5: Quervo is my tequila of choice in twenty twenty five. 198 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 5: In twenty twenty two, maybe it wasn't right, but there's 199 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 5: a reason it wins all these taste tests. 200 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 8: It's absolutely crazy, right. 201 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 5: I remember we did one of these and some dude 202 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 5: mentioned another tequila and he said it was so bad 203 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 5: he'll be able to tell what it is right away. 204 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 5: And sure enough he's like, oh, yeah, there it is, 205 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 5: you know, absolutely terrible. 206 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 8: He's like, you drink that piss. I was like, no, 207 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 8: maybe in twenty twenty one. 208 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 6: I did, though. 209 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 8: All right, let's get into headlines. UFC Fight Night Song. 210 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 5: You Dong over Henry Sahudo by technical decision, it goes 211 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 5: to the scorecards after fifteen minut Henry Sudo was unable 212 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 5: to see out of I believe that left eye Kenny, 213 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 5: and a lot too unpack. 214 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 8: You know, you're the fighter. I'll let you unpack it. 215 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 6: Oh gosh, Well unfortunate. 216 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 7: However, this was a fight that to me seemed like 217 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 7: was consistently with your dong in the driver's seat. I 218 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 7: think that he was in control of his fight. He 219 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 7: was looking very very good. Unfortunately for Henry, he wasn't 220 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 7: able to be a double threat here. I think that 221 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 7: Henry was looking for takedowns. To me, it was kind 222 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 7: of surprising that he was kind of stopping his motion 223 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 7: on some of those takedowns, which allowed your dog to 224 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 7: really kind of, you know, thwart a lot of those 225 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 7: takedown attempts. So Henry was kind of stopping on those takedowns. 226 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 7: He was grabbing the leg and then not really creating 227 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 7: any emotion with them. However, here's a good sign for Henry, 228 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 7: the fact that he was motivated. This was to me, 229 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 7: the guy you know with the eye of the tiger, 230 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 7: you know, Rusa Hudo seemed like he was ready for 231 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 7: a scrap. He did not cower at any point during 232 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 7: that fight. Even when he was taking a lot of damage, 233 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 7: he was firing back with huge shots you. Dong deserves 234 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 7: a lot of credit for eating a lot of those shots. 235 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 7: So it was a really good fight and competitive fight. 236 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 7: But to me, Sonya Dong was in the driver's seat 237 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 7: the whole time prior to that. 238 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 5: I guess, sorry, guys, somehow my mic was muted there, 239 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 5: Ken Flow, Jason Herzog is as good as any referee 240 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 5: in the business. Right there might be referees as good. 241 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 5: I don't believe consistently there is anybody better. But much 242 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 5: as being made of the fact that he did not 243 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 5: take a point, there were fowls prior. And there are 244 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 5: a lot of people talking about ipokes and what penalties 245 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 5: should happen and to make it more dissuasive for fighters, 246 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 5: Jim Miller, Michael Bisping, Chiming in. So, what do you 247 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 5: make of the fact that the playing field was not 248 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 5: leveled so to speak? By Jason Herzog one of the 249 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 5: best in the business, And maybe what can be done 250 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 5: to really try to penalize fighters in your mind for 251 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 5: ipokes moving forward? 252 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I kind of purposely buried the lead. 253 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 7: I wanted to talk about the fight itself, but no, 254 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 7: I know this, Yeah, no, and this is the biggest 255 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 7: part of this fight, right, So I think that it's 256 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 7: hard because you can't predict exactly how bad these ipokes are. 257 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 7: The only information you can get is from the fighter 258 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 7: and whether they can see or not, or whether it's 259 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 7: going to come back or not. Sometimes you can't see 260 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 7: for the first ten seconds and then you're good after that. 261 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 7: Sometimes it's a minute, two minutes, five minutes, whatever it is. 262 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 7: And you know, for the referee Jason Herzog in this example, 263 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 7: he doesn't know all of that stuff, and you know, 264 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 7: you need a doctor to come in. 265 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 6: You need the fighter to kind of give you the 266 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 6: right information. 267 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 7: Now, when Henry went back to the corner after that, 268 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 7: he said he could not see. At that point, the 269 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 7: fight was over. Like, there's nothing you could do. Now, 270 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 7: what could Jason do prior to that? You know, if 271 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 7: you're seeing a guy and Henry kind of had his 272 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 7: hand opened as well, he kind of fights like that. 273 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 7: You know, there either needs to be something straight away 274 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 7: from the ref in knowing these fighters going backstage when 275 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 7: he meets with these guys before the fight and saying, hey, 276 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 7: you guys have a tendency of keeping your hands open. 277 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 7: If I see one eye gouge or if I see 278 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 7: one eyepoke or whatever it is, I'm taking a point away, 279 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 7: So just be aware that you know something like that. 280 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 7: So this is a tough one, man, because I do 281 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 7: think there's a little bit of a gray. 282 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 6: Area in there. 283 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 7: And traditionally you kind of have to allow for a foul, 284 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 7: right and it not being intentional or unintentional, but the 285 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 7: fact that this was unintentional and had an impact on 286 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 7: the fight. Gosh, when it's that bad and that egregious, 287 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 7: then maybe you have to take a point away. 288 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 5: Jim Miller posted a video on social media that was 289 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 5: repurposed by Verdict MMA, I believe, and he was wearing 290 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 5: a UFC glove. He's been in that octagon I think 291 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 5: more than anybody, right, Maybe not in terms of for 292 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 5: all a cruage of time and hours, right, but it's 293 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 5: not the gloves. There have to be preventive measures taken, 294 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 5: right to give our referees and our judges and our 295 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 5: fighters as many tools as possible, right, So yeah, I 296 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 5: mean we got to take more preventative measures in terms 297 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 5: of making the penalties more severe. I'd encourage everybody to 298 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 5: check out Jim Miller's video. I do believe a little 299 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 5: bit too much is being made of you know, Herzog 300 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 5: in this situation. I understand some talking head suggesting that 301 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 5: maybe this was indefensible by Jason. I just think that 302 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 5: the referees need more tools, right to be able to 303 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 5: have the conviction to change the landscape of the fight 304 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 5: by taking points away, right, you know, Like I think 305 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 5: it's sort of like parenting. 306 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 8: Right, It's like what about raising your voice? Like do 307 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 8: you raise your voice? 308 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 2: Right? 309 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 5: Like I'm not a yeller, right, but you know when 310 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 5: I cuss like that definitely like centers my kids, you know, 311 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 5: And that would be a parenting tool if you don't like. 312 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 6: To raise your voice. 313 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 8: I don't know what you do, Ken, But the first warning. 314 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 5: Every time I see Mark Ratner, he's like first warnings 315 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 5: in the back, first warnings in the back, you know. 316 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 5: So you can imagine that he thought that a point 317 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 5: should have been taken. I don't know, it's disappointing he 318 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 5: got to take so hudo and his word can flow, right, 319 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 5: I mean. 320 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 7: No, for sure, And I think that for referees, I 321 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 7: think they would be lying to you if they said that, 322 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 7: if they had the option of not being noticeable at all, 323 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 7: as opposed to having an impact on the fight itself. 324 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 6: They would always choose to be invisible. 325 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 7: Throughout that fight, and no referee wants to have some 326 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 7: kind of decision out there that impacts this fight on 327 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 7: that level by taking a point away or de queuing 328 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 7: a fighter or whatever it is. So I think there's 329 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 7: that initial hesitation and lean towards that bias to begin with. 330 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 7: And maybe you disagree with me, but I think that 331 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 7: alone is kind of an impediment to like where we're 332 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 7: trying to go with the sporting think. 333 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 8: Couldn't agree with you more. 334 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 5: And it's a disappointing result because song you don't does 335 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 5: not get sort of spun forward with a win. And 336 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 5: even though both fighters have an appetite for a rematch, 337 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 5: before I asked Ken Flow, who did see some merit 338 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 5: in despite certainly his thoughts on a rematch, I want 339 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 5: to get to some sound from Dana White. Here's what 340 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 5: Dana said at the post fight press conference. 341 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 6: Thinking that that they should run that one back, not 342 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 6: even a little bit why. I just don't want to 343 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 6: see it again, do you know? I thought it was 344 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 6: a good fight leading up, and you want to see 345 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 6: it again, We should probably do it in a couple 346 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 6: of months, not even a little bit. It's funny though, 347 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 6: that's funny. There's that Boston humor, right, Yeah. 348 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I'm good too, Kenny. I mean, was 349 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 8: a fine fight. 350 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 6: I'm fine though, I don't need to see Listen, it 351 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 6: was a good fight, but I have degree with Danny. 352 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 6: I don't need to see it again. 353 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 7: Why And this is the problem when fights, uh and 354 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 7: in this manner is that doesn't hold back one. It 355 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 7: kind of prevents two fighters from advancing in this regard. 356 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 7: So yeah, you know, I think it's tough to see Henry, 357 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 7: you know, maybe have to end his career on this note. 358 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 7: If that's where he's gonna go, or if he's gonna 359 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 7: come back, then he gets another opportunity to kind of 360 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 7: redeem himself and get a win. Okay, great, Yeah, but 361 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 7: I don't know, we can't just have a rematch every 362 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 7: time there's some kind of controversial issue. 363 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 6: And also for me, Songya Dong was in complete control. 364 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 6: I think he was winning the. 365 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 7: Rounds and it seemed like it was actually going to 366 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 7: get worse for Henry. 367 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 6: Unfortunately. 368 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 5: I poker right, right, and I know there are a 369 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 5: lot of people out there sitting on Sonya Dong tickets 370 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 5: Maddie Betts in rounds four and five. That was very 371 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 5: disappointed that that fight did not continue. You got to 372 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 5: give to Huto the benefit of the doubt to be sure. Now, 373 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 5: I have had private communication with fighters who have been 374 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 5: on the wrong side of some very severe eyepokes. I 375 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 5: remember Daniel Cormier with an eye patch on, just writhing 376 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 5: in pain. The next day Blao Muhammad right moaning, right 377 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 5: as if he's giving birth. I mean, that's a natural 378 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 5: reaction to a nasty, nasty epoke that in my opinion, right, 379 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 5: just one talking head with a stupid fucking opinion. That 380 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 5: one was more severe than this one. But Henry can't see, 381 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 5: and he's not going to jeopardize fighting high level mixed 382 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 5: martial arts fight against a knockout artist right over ten minutes, 383 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 5: you know, if he can't see out of that eye, 384 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 5: so you can't sort of knock Henry in all of this, 385 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 5: even if you don't want to see a remarch. 386 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 6: So absolutely agree with you. Henry made the right decision here. 387 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 7: This sport is too nasty, Sonya Dong, is too dangerous 388 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 7: for you to go out there with one working eye. 389 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 7: You just can't he made the right choice, you know, 390 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 7: for his own health and safety. 391 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 6: All right, Well, Joe. 392 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 5: Rogan, if you're listening, text Dana about severe penalties for 393 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 5: ipokes and we'll see if we can affect change Kenny. 394 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 5: Worst ipoke you you've ever been on the wrong end of, 395 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 5: do you recall? 396 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 7: I've been pretty damn lucky. I think the worst was 397 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 7: just getting my nose was always in the way. I think, 398 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 7: I think blood in the eye, what was the worst? 399 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 6: You know? 400 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 7: So that was like someone just put a red sheet 401 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 7: over my eye. I remember when I fought Diego Sanchez, 402 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 7: I had that. When I fought Sean Shirk, his own 403 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 7: blood was just blinding me in the eye and I 404 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 7: could not anytime I went to Smudget it just kind 405 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 7: of made it worse and was just there. 406 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 6: So but I've never. 407 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 7: Actually taken an ee poke that is affecting my thankfully. 408 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 6: But though those could be nasty, man. 409 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 5: Well, in your era, I don't know that people were 410 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 5: leading with their fingernails as much as they are at 411 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 5: day in age, but I could be wrong. All right, 412 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 5: let's get to the co made event. If we could 413 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 5: ray Longo coming up here in eight minutes, we will 414 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 5: also get you picks and a preview for UFC Fight 415 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 5: Night Cop versus Almabayev, which beckons this Saturday night, I 416 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 5: got to call the apex this weekend, ken fo, we. 417 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 6: Got to go night all right. 418 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 5: So the good news if you're Anthony Fluffy Hernandez on 419 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 5: this extended winning streak and wondering when a title fight 420 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 5: is going to materialize, that the UFC now has champions 421 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 5: and DRINKISDUP plus and Ballah Muhammad and Rob Dwallas Willie 422 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 5: that are gonna put their titles on the line regularly, 423 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 5: and Diego Lopez, I think would also qualify if he 424 00:19:59,600 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 5: can get that. 425 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 6: So what do you make of Fluffy? 426 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 8: Man? I love this guy. 427 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 5: Unanimous decision winner, the winning ways continue, he gets past 428 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 5: Brendan Allen, and uh, you know, Anthony Hernandez remains right 429 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 5: on the cusp. You gotta think it's either a main 430 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 5: of ant or a pay per view eliminator for him 431 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 5: coming up next. 432 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 7: One of the things that's most difficult for me in 433 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 7: picking fights or you know, breaking down fights sometimes is 434 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 7: what a like, what kind of situation the fighter is 435 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 7: going to show up in, Like, you know, what's his 436 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 7: motivation what's his passion? 437 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 6: What is he going to fight? Like Anthony Hernandez, I 438 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 6: don't need to ask any questions. 439 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 7: I know exactly what he's going to do out there. 440 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 7: I know exactly how he's going to show up. I 441 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 7: know exactly that. You know the consistency of how he 442 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 7: shows up. It's easy to predict. 443 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 6: And because of that, he is such a tough out 444 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 6: for anybody in that division. His style, he is. 445 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 7: Relentless, He's right on top of you, He's going to 446 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 7: come back, he's going to outposition you. 447 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 6: He's never going to quit. 448 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 7: And I think it was those things that Brendan Allen 449 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 7: just kind of he just wasn't up to part show 450 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 7: some great execution of skill. And I think he performed really, 451 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 7: really well. But when it comes down to being that dog, 452 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 7: it's gonna be really hard to outdog someone like Hernandez. 453 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 5: Beautifully laid out as usual. I sort of feel like 454 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 5: with everything Anthony Hernandez was dealing with with that this 455 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 5: might be harder than any fight that he ever has 456 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 5: to be in. He was on antibiotics right that he 457 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 5: was just absolutely brutal. I think he was the last 458 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 5: guy to weigh in, right, but he just is cut 459 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 5: from that cloth as you just outlined. So as you 460 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 5: look at this fight and as you spin it forward, right, 461 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 5: it's going to be one more elite guy, I would 462 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 5: think for Anthony Fluffy Hernandez. You know, can he get 463 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 5: that fight with like a Kyle Bohaalio next? Will it 464 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 5: be like an Israel Lota Sonia. How do you handicap 465 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 5: Fluffy against like Drinkis Duplessi and the other elites in 466 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 5: this division, Because at this point in time, all the 467 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 5: man needs, as far as I'm concerned, is an opportunity. 468 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 5: And when you combine the skills with the dog on 469 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 5: any given Saturday night, he's got a shot. 470 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 471 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 7: Well, listen, I think that he is one of the 472 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 7: best grapplers, no question in that division. Styles make fights, 473 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 7: as they say, and I think that the fight that 474 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 7: probably would be most difficult for him, perhaps is the 475 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 7: case for everybody in that division is Hobza Chimaya, just 476 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 7: because they have a very similar style, and I think 477 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 7: Hobbza just has that much better takedown game and grounded pound. 478 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 7: But Hernandez is right there, man, and definitely kind of 479 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 7: emulates more of that Dagistani kind of Russian caucus you 480 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 7: know style, and yeah, it's it's it's a style that 481 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 7: very few people can execute because they don't have the 482 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 7: conditioning to do it. 483 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 6: But I think he could definitely be a top five guy. 484 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 7: I mean, if I'm Sean Strickland or Amovov, I'm saying 485 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 7: no to someone like Anthony Hernandez, Like, yeah, I don't 486 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 7: think you want to face a guy like that who 487 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 7: is just a menace when it comes to ground five 488 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 7: in clinch fighting. 489 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 5: I think maybe you do a main event Anthony Hernandez 490 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 5: Robert Whittaker as Cody beautifully lays out the rankings for 491 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 5: us there. I think that fight maybe makes some sense. 492 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 5: Ken Floiny appetite for Fluffy versus the Reaper or No. 493 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 7: That would be a great fight. I think that would 494 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 7: be a great fight. I'm not sure Robert Whittaker, Well, 495 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 7: maybe he wants to redeem himself because he fought someone 496 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 7: similar in hams at Chimaya. 497 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean that that would be huge. 498 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 7: You beat someone like Robert Whittaker, then again, you're that 499 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 7: much closer to a title shot. 500 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 6: Probably after that one, maybe you get the next shot. 501 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 7: So that division is very deep, but that's one will 502 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 7: that will fast track you to that belt. 503 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 6: I think I think we. 504 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 5: Got like Vittori and d'lidze coming up in a rematch 505 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 5: main event, if I'm not mistaken Kyle Bohalio. As we mentioned, 506 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 5: I just really feel like when you look at these 507 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 5: divisions and they're champions right with Ala Chandre Pantosia and 508 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 5: Marab and potentially young Diego Lopez not the bulk wouldn't 509 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 5: win the belt potentially turn it around three months later. 510 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 5: But you have a lot of champions that are two 511 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 5: and a half to three times a year type guys 512 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 5: like I was with Morob ten days ago. That dude 513 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 5: wants to fight blal can't even exist in his own 514 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 5: skin if he doesn't have a fight on the books. 515 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 5: And if you're Anthony Fluffy Hernandez Draekys Duplessi's probably gonna 516 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 5: defend the title against Hamza Chimi have International Fight Week 517 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 5: at the latest, because that's the type of guy he 518 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 5: is too. So I think that's the good news for 519 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 5: Hernandez as you sit here with this extended winning street 520 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 5: thinking like, how am I going to get the next 521 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 5: big fight? Congrats to him on power and through the 522 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 5: illness and everything else. Really good guy. Anthony fucking Hernandez. Dude, 523 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 5: how about Rob font Man. You know, I don't know 524 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 5: if it's like career resurgence. I mean, certainly it's a 525 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 5: little bit of a two point zero thing under Farasaabby 526 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 5: and training in Montreal and injecting new life into his career, 527 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 5: but accepting this fight against Sean Matsumoto in which he's 528 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 5: a betting underdog instead of being a two and a 529 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,239 Speaker 5: half to one favorite against Domina Cruz. Performing like that, 530 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 5: Wilburn's Finest Baby had to feel good to be a 531 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 5: Bostonian watching Rob Fott do that this weekend. 532 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 7: And it's great to see a guy who was willing 533 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 7: to change his approach and to go outside of maybe 534 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 7: his comfort level and space and seek out other people 535 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 7: that can maybe take him to where he wants to 536 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,959 Speaker 7: go and get some feedback from someone that maybe doesn't 537 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 7: know him so well. 538 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 8: And I know it helped me a tremendous amount. 539 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 6: And when you're talking about Farasa Hobby, I think one 540 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 6: of his best assets as a coach is his ability 541 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 6: to look at what you have and then modify and improve. 542 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 6: I think that's what makes him so special. 543 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 7: But Faras is an extremely intelligent guy who's been around 544 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 7: this sport for a long time and has obviously aided 545 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 7: Rob font. 546 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 6: In his efforts. 547 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 7: But Rob just looks much cleaner and much smarter as 548 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 7: a fighter. And I love to see it because now 549 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 7: it gives him the ability to add that much more 550 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 7: longevity to his career. 551 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 5: So Farasa Hobby cornered you against Joe Aldo in twenty eleven, 552 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 5: and now fourteen years later, he's going to corner his 553 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 5: younger brother aim and against Jose Aldo. That's got to 554 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 5: be pretty special for all you guys, you. 555 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 6: Know, absolutely. 556 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 7: And one other little tidbit, aman Za Hobby was at 557 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 7: my house in Massachusett's helping me prepare for Josie Aldo. 558 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 7: He was one of my main training partners at the 559 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 7: time as well, you know, probably in his what early 560 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 7: to mid twenties at the time, helping me out. 561 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 6: So it's really cool. 562 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 7: I've been I saw that news today, I wanted to 563 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 7: give him a call immediately be like, how funny is it? 564 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 6: That's amazing? 565 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, congrats to Amen and for us, and we 566 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 5: look forward to that fight with Jose Aldo. I believe 567 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 5: in Montreal at UFC three fifteen and sort of just 568 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 5: putting a bow on the middlewights. We got Michelle Padata 569 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 5: versus a boost Maga Metta. I'm telling you a boost 570 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 5: Maga metav is the dark horse in that division. That's 571 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 5: April twenty sixth. VI Torri Delidzay a headliner March fifteenth. 572 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 5: Joe Pifer, you could beat Joe Pifer. He's taken on 573 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 5: Kelvin Gasolon March twenty ninth. So that's some good connective 574 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 5: tissue in the middleweight division. Congrats to Rob font on 575 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 5: the bonus and the split decision. When we will be 576 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 5: getting to Ray Longo here shortly. But how about Lord 577 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 5: Jean Silva, he of the fighting nerds fame getting it 578 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 5: done against Melsiic Bogdasarian by Tko. Here comes the Lord, 579 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 5: good Lord, Like, there's so many calls when John Silva 580 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 5: knocks a dude out and the big fights are gonna 581 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 5: be coming for this guy, Ken Flow, what did you 582 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 5: make of one of your favorite guys on the roster 583 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 5: right now? 584 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 8: Lord Jean Silva. 585 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 3: Congratulations, min Yeah, listen, it was amazing this guy. 586 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 7: I mean, it's when you see a guy with this 587 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 7: kind of skill and this comfort level in the UFC, 588 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 7: and it's not like he's got ten fights. 589 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 6: In the UFC at this stage. He hasn't been around 590 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 6: that long. But he fights like such a veteran. He's 591 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 6: such a cool customer, and his athletic traits as well 592 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 6: makes the special. His ability to see the game and slow. 593 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 7: Things down for himself and pick you apart bit by bit. 594 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 7: He's an absolute technician, but he's a killer as well. 595 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 7: Sometimes you see guys that are technicians, but they don't 596 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 7: throw a whole lot of volume, or maybe don't throw 597 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 7: a whole lot of variety, and maybe they're not versatile. 598 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 6: That is not the case with Jean Silva. This guy 599 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 6: is special. 600 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 7: John his ability to land shots at the right time, 601 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 7: it reminds me of Connor McGregor and his prime Just 602 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 7: how he can find your chin and the artistry that 603 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 7: he shows in getting there. He's not just winging punches 604 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 7: with his eyes looking down at the canvas. He knows 605 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 7: exactly what he's doing and it's just beautiful to watch. 606 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 7: This guy is someone to watch and he may very 607 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 7: well be a champion in this sport in the near future. 608 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 7: I think it's the ceiling thinks that high man. 609 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Sean Lord Silva won the weekend. I 610 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 5: was wondering if I should change my name to I mean, 611 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 5: I'm not Lord, right, but Jean instead of John. 612 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 8: I could be Jean. I actually might. 613 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 5: When I say my name for the first time on 614 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 5: television this weekend, say alongside Domina Cruz, I'm Jean, an 615 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 5: two man booth by the way, for the first time 616 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 5: in three or four years this weekend? 617 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 6: Nice? Who you got? 618 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: Who's with you? 619 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 8: Domina Cruz? 620 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 621 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 6: Dom Yeah? Nice? 622 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 5: First uh, first time being on the sticks for Cruisy 623 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 5: as a retired UFC athlete. 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A few other things I would 656 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 5: like to get into if I could, and we will 657 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 5: certainly get Ray Longo's thoughts. We'll let him program direct 658 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 5: his segment because he'll probably be offended if I don't 659 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 5: ask him. 660 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 6: Oh you have Ray all right? 661 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 5: Well, at least now he heard that I wasn't maybe 662 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 5: saying super nice things before he came on. 663 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 6: Let's get to the uh, the Ray Long go minute. 664 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: He is now time for the Ray Longo minute. 665 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 3: Now, I'm gonna push a hole in this cocking up. 666 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: That's what I watch the Ray Long Minute the John 667 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: Annik and Kenny Florian Podcast. 668 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 8: Wow, well one of your minute men is like harassing me. 669 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 2: So good good ah, that means you should be harassed. 670 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 5: Well, you know, I sit here, I'm almost like intimidated 671 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 5: to ask you about like Ilia toputia instead of like 672 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 5: song you dong and Henry sohudo, because sometimes you get 673 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 5: upset with me, you know, if I don't you know, 674 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 5: if my questions are run on, or if I don't 675 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 5: ask the right questions. So we figured we would sort 676 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 5: of let you lead today, you know, unless you wanted 677 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 5: to go pull Nakuda and then I'd have to entha. 678 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: Come on, you got to give it up the pool. 679 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 5: We will, but that's not the first one. 680 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 2: What do you want to talk about? 681 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 6: All right? 682 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 5: So I would like to talk about Ilia Toporia if 683 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 5: I could, because as Kenny and I have increasingly wrapped 684 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 5: our head around his decision to move up to lightweight, 685 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 5: seemingly with finality. I think in a lot of respects, 686 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 5: it makes sense. Right when you weigh the danger of 687 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 5: the Diego Lopez fight potentially or the upside of an 688 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 5: Alexander Volkanowski rematch. You beat the guy by knockout all 689 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 5: the big fights that potentially await him at fifty five, 690 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 5: we understand why he is making this move, and making 691 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 5: this move right now, even if a championship opportunity is 692 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 5: not guaranteed. So I just want to get your thoughts 693 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 5: on Topoitia moving up to fifty five without a title 694 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 5: shot being guaranteed. 695 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: Uh, well, listen, I think with Tapori it's just a 696 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: matter of fact he can't make the weight anymore, and 697 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 2: he feels comfortable at fifty five. Know he's not ducking 698 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 2: any but he's not. You know, I don't think. 699 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 8: I don't I don't think that's what it is. 700 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: And it's well, I'll what was that. 701 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 8: Can you put that phone on vibrate do you mind? 702 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? I have it on side. Oh all right, I 703 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: mean Morob told me that months ago. He said, Illy 704 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 2: is not making the weight anymore. I mean that's what 705 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 2: he told me, Soorry, I gotta go by his word. 706 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 2: And yeah, I think that's the end of the story. 707 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: I think people are going to start to read into 708 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 2: it and come up with whatever narrative they want. But 709 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: you know, it's like al Jo. Al Jo did not 710 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 2: want to make that thirty five man, he just didn't 711 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 2: want to do it anymore. 712 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 5: So at least you're providing some like legitimate like background, right, 713 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 5: which actually is valuable, right, Morob's comments. 714 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 6: About the week because months ago of us that. 715 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 8: See Ilia though, right, who's five to six? 716 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 5: Right, I can make twenty five and I'm five to 717 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 5: nine with a seventy two inch wingspan, right, Like I 718 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 5: maybe don't have like a huge lower half. But I 719 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 5: just it's hard for me to wrap my head around 720 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 5: the fact that these are stare death in the face 721 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 5: type weight cuts. Ken Flow did it twice, and Kenny's 722 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 5: built in some respects like a major league baseball catcher. 723 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 8: He's an absolute beast. Down, you know, like, so. 724 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 5: I don't I can't buy that in totality with respect. 725 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 2: Way first off, maybe his second base when he's not 726 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 2: built like a. 727 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 6: Right now, my head looks like. 728 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 8: Kenny Hot you. 729 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 2: Know, yeah, I don't know. 730 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 8: What do you have for us on that? 731 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 6: I'll say. I'll say this, I think it's most likely 732 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 6: more if there. 733 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 7: I would say this if he had another one or 734 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 7: two guys like Max Holloway and Volkanovski at one hundred 735 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 7: and forty five. 736 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 6: I think he's staying at one hundred and forty five pounds. 737 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 7: I think that he feels that he has nothing to 738 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 7: gain by staying at one forty five. He already beat 739 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 7: the two most difficult and most accomplished names into sports. 740 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 7: So now it's like, what else do I have to do? 741 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 7: Money is a great motivator, and if there's more money 742 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 7: fights for him down there, then I think he would stay. 743 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 7: I don't think there's gonna be more money against Diego Lopez, 744 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 7: and I think there's just as much risk perhaps as 745 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 7: a Volkanovski and a Max Holloway. So he says, wait 746 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 7: a sec if I go up to one fifty five 747 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 7: and lose against an og or one of the greatest 748 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 7: in that division. I lose nothing, and I can always 749 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 7: go back to one forty five, but I want to 750 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 7: get another couple fights, and I want to be a 751 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 7: belt holder at one fifty five and then I'm out. 752 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 7: And I think it's just he's trying to find the 753 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 7: fastest track to being an absolute legend in this sport. 754 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 6: That's what I think. 755 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 2: And Kenny not only beat him, he beat the crap 756 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 2: at him. He beat the crab out. 757 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 7: Your performance is going to be better than a second 758 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 7: round knocking against Halloway. No one has ever knocked out Holloway. 759 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: Yes, and this I have no idea of. But I 760 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 2: think the guy's financially well off. You know, he doesn't 761 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 2: live in America where everything is money, money, money, money, money. 762 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 2: You know, he got to get more money, more money, 763 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 2: more money. You know, we got to I got tag, 764 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So why put his body 765 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: through that? Maybe he's looking at the long game, you 766 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 2: know what I mean. But you think making weight, whether 767 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 2: you could do it or not, you think it's good 768 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 2: for you. You ever see these guys, I don't give a 769 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 2: fuck if a guy could make one fifteen, sure, I'm 770 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 2: sure he could starve himself. 771 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 6: I'll tell you about it. 772 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 2: Kevin James said he fasted for forty days. You know, 773 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 2: everybody could do what they want. If you want longevity, 774 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 2: you have to do it the right way. So you'd 775 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: have to really ask him. But that's my take on it. 776 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 2: I think, you know, I don't think he's Yeah, I 777 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 2: don't think he's motivated by the dollar like everybody else's. 778 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,479 Speaker 2: And I think he's got look at him, it looks 779 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 2: like a movie star. He's got a great family. I 780 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 2: mean that's the way it appears through. Everybody's got you know, 781 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 2: trouble behind the scenes, I guess. But you know, he 782 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 2: looks right now to me like he's having a great time. 783 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 2: And why do that if you don't need to. I mean, 784 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 2: there's more to life than just making weight, man, you 785 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like you got to put it 786 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: in perspective. You know how many guys you know paid 787 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 2: the price or have diabetes or whatever disease is going 788 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 2: to come from what they did to their bodies for 789 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 2: ten years, you know, so you gotta be caught too. 790 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 5: And certainly he believes in himself to such an extent 791 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 5: that he is not at all intimidated by facing the 792 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 5: likes of Dustin Poier or Charles Olivera or Islam Kasha 793 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 5: no Ray. 794 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 8: I think you put it all really well. 795 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 5: And Jerry Seinfeld said recently that in the nineteen seventies, 796 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 5: nobody cared how much money you made. 797 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 8: It was almost like who's got the coolest job? You know, 798 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 8: like it really wasn't. 799 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 5: And You're so right in our country, red like, it 800 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 5: is all about money, money, money, And I do think 801 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 5: Ilio Topoitia likes red Wine, likes to party, wants to life. 802 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 8: I agree with that, and I'm glad you led with that. 803 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 5: I just was sort of trying to make the point, 804 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 5: maybe in a roundabout way, that even if Ilio to 805 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 5: Toporitia would be the betting favorite against Diego Lopez and 806 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 5: maybe the betting underdog against Charles Olivera, there are similarities 807 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 5: for him in fighting Diego Lopez and Charles Olivera, Right, 808 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,439 Speaker 5: their advantages maybe at forty five, advantages at fifty five 809 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 5: that wouldn't be there in the opposite weight class, and 810 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 5: there's risk in both of those fights. So I'm just 811 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 5: taking that as one fight, Right, he loses to Diego Lopez, 812 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 5: then what do you do? Right, Like, so he can 813 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 5: move up to fifty five, get Charles Dustin or Islam, 814 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 5: lose to any of them and not really lose too much. 815 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 5: And if it's competitive, you know, I don't know. 816 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 6: I just think that. 817 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 8: At first. 818 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 5: I was like, man, you know, I'd like to see 819 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 5: him fight mob sar If Lawyev and Illly is like, John, 820 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 5: can we talk for a second, bro? 821 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, first of if you got to ask him, 822 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 2: but I don't think he's afraid to fight anybody. That 823 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 2: guy's a gangster that he could say. 824 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 8: No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm not afraid who. 825 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 2: All these people who had the money in the seventies, 826 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 2: all right? 827 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 5: So I was sorry, Yeah, I just wanted to get 828 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 5: some to puritious stuff out there because I think it 829 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 5: is particularly newsworthy. 830 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so no good. 831 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 5: So al Joe is training extensively with Alexan Volkanovsky his 832 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 5: volk gets ready for the multiple times mentioned Diego Lopez 833 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 5: That is UFC three fourteen Raymond Volkanovski versus Lopez right 834 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 5: now Vulcan minus one fifty five the betting favorite. Any 835 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 5: thoughts on that and al Jo being the right hand 836 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 5: man of the pole. 837 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 2: I'll tell you Cody sent me some last night. I 838 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 2: was totally unaware of the chirp and that was going 839 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 2: back and forth. But uh, I don't know. I like Diego, 840 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 2: man give him the title shot. I don't know, but 841 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 2: I think al Jo. You got to remember, al Jo 842 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 2: is a very cerebral, kind of practical guy. I think 843 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 2: he's saying, you know, Moza beat him, so if it's 844 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 2: a meritocracy, you know, he should get the fight. I 845 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 2: don't think he meant anything other than that, by by 846 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: what I read, but it turned into it like a 847 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 2: big deal. I hope those guys can work it out. 848 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 2: I think he's lined up a street fight with Jason House. Now. 849 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell's going on, but it's 850 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 2: actually it's kind of entertaining. But uh no, I think 851 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 2: Diego's been on a raw, a rip or a whatever. Hell, 852 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 2: he's been on a roll, and yeah, I got no 853 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 2: problem with that, you know, I think it's a good fight. 854 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 5: Cody just texted me and Kenny Dan Hooker speaking about 855 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,280 Speaker 5: his hand injury. 856 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 6: Sparring last night. 857 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 5: Just caught one of the boys on the top of 858 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 5: the dome with my knuckle I obviously still would fight. 859 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 8: Yeah. 860 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 5: See that's the thing, right, like, if Hooker could pass 861 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 5: the medical guy leads the league in willingness to fight 862 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 5: with broken bones, right, yeah, so, but it's just, yeah, 863 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 5: you just don't want to make it so that you're 864 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 5: all having this nasty multiple time, you know, screws and 865 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 5: everything else. 866 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 8: Right, But he would fight. But there's your update, ken Flow. 867 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's interesting, I assume. 868 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 7: And it had to have been with you know, with 869 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 7: an MMA glove or something without without a whole lot 870 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 7: of padding or without a rep for that to happen. 871 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 7: You still even though you're hitting the top of the head, 872 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 7: I would I would think you got to be throwing 873 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 7: pretty hard without a rep on to knuckle there, right, yeah, right, Ray. 874 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 2: I've seen guys in a boxing glove with raps on 875 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 2: still do it. If they hit it the right way 876 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 2: and they're throwing hard. They gotta throw hard, though. Yeah, 877 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 2: it's got to know. I think I did that. What 878 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 2: I quin the years ago. They had to sit down 879 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 2: on the right hand and he went in and spa. 880 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 2: He just hit the same thing, hit the guy at 881 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,399 Speaker 2: the top. He broke his hand. So but he threw hard. 882 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 2: I mean it was that was hard sparring. It wasn't. 883 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 2: I don't that's not gonna technically happen in like flow sparring, 884 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 2: right or like kind of play sparring. But I think 885 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 2: when you're throwing hard those you hit it the right 886 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,479 Speaker 2: way and the guy's got it, you know, a hard head. 887 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 2: It's always a problem. 888 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 5: All right, very quickly, because we have a lot of 889 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 5: topics we want to get to with the wildly popular 890 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 5: Raymond Peter Longo, we asked our viewers and listeners as 891 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 5: to who they think is going to win this fight 892 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 5: between Volkanovsky and Diego Lopez, and it kind of dovetails 893 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 5: with the betting line sixty two percent of people like Volkanovski. 894 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 8: Do you guys have any early leaner thoughts? I know 895 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 8: your guy out just training with Vulk. 896 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 5: I know you said you like Diego Lopez, ree, but uh, 897 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 5: any early lean as to who you think emerges out 898 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 5: of that one? 899 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 2: Uh? I think that's gonna be a really good fight. 900 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 2: I mean, folks, kind of you know, he hasn't been 901 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 2: on a winning streak and any other guy has. I 902 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 2: think the other guy's got the momentum. Volks seems like 903 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 2: just a you know, he's definitely a great dude, and 904 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 2: he's uh yeah, I don't know that's gonna be. That's 905 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 2: a tougher fight than I think people think, only because 906 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 2: of the way, you know, Volks getting up there now 907 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 2: and you know, I don't know where his head's at, 908 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,439 Speaker 2: but uh put it. I will say this, like again, 909 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 2: I always say this only just to prove a point. 910 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 2: But if it was five years ago, I think Volkanowski 911 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 2: would win the fight, Kenny, when both when Volk was Vulk, 912 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 2: that would that would have been a tough fight for Diego. 913 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 2: Who knows. Everybody gets old, everybody's got issues going on. 914 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,280 Speaker 2: But volkan out, I could still fight this kid. Seems 915 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 2: like he's on a roll. I'm dying. I'd like to 916 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 2: see it. I want to see the fight, Kenny. 917 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 5: The only thing I'll say is in terms of the preparation, 918 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,399 Speaker 5: both guys will go to the end of the earth 919 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 5: to do everything in their power to be ready for 920 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 5: April twelfth. Your thoughts on the Featherway title fight real quick, 921 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 5: if you would, I. 922 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 6: Definitely believe that. 923 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 7: I think a lot of it comes down to what 924 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 7: kind of Volkanofski we're going to see, you know, is 925 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 7: this a Volkanovski in decline? It's possible. He's some pretty 926 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 7: damn good fighters. You know, there's no shame in losing 927 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 7: Islamahashe and Ilio Tuporia. However, what kind of effect did 928 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,760 Speaker 7: those fights have on him, his durability, his chin, et cetera, 929 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 7: because Diego Lopez is going to look for that chin 930 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 7: and will most likely land at some point. He's tall, 931 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,240 Speaker 7: he's lanky, he's big for the division. He's no slouch 932 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 7: on the ground. He's a finisher as well. He's a crude, 933 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 7: a lot of experience. Now it's some big fights in 934 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 7: the UFC, so it's really tough at this at this 935 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 7: point without doing tape study, I might be leaning towards 936 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 7: Diego Lopez at this at this point, but I don't know. 937 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, this this is a close one. 938 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give you some I mean, like, Volk can 939 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 2: definitely still find me. And I talked to Al Joe 940 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 2: and al Joe has been training with him, and he 941 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 2: said the first time they spot he tried to imitate 942 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 2: like Diego Lopez, and after, like me, he's like, fuck 943 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 2: this man. You know, I think he got he got smashed. 944 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 2: A couple of times he's like, I'm going back to 945 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 2: the way. I like the spot and you know, you 946 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 2: see that I used to put guys in the gym. 947 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 2: Can you go Southport? And it lasts for like a 948 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 2: minute like I'm not get what am I getting killed? Like? 949 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 2: You know, So it was funny when he said that 950 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 2: to me. But so Volks definitely training hard. He's still 951 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 2: he's doing the right thing. Let's see, man. You know, 952 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 2: we've seen a lot of weird stuff in this sport. 953 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 2: But uh, I love both guys. That made the best 954 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 2: man win and I want to see the fight I'm 955 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 2: excited for. 956 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 7: And I like the time away for Volkanowski. I like 957 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 7: the fact that he's he's taken some time to. 958 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 2: Well let me John, let me say one thing. I 959 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,879 Speaker 2: think what happens though, is like he was a company man. 960 00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 2: I think you see it even without a Sonia, they 961 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 2: would very technically highly skilled guys. But you know you 962 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 2: could take you know, once you hit that point where 963 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 2: you just overdo it time you have to take time off. 964 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 2: But it seems like it might not be enough. It 965 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 2: just might not be enough. I think you see it 966 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 2: with Israel. Guy's a great fighter, but he's struggling, And 967 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 2: I think that's struggling because he fought, you know, every 968 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 2: couple of months or whatever he was doing at the time. 969 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 2: I think he just got burnt out and that that 970 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 2: could be physically and mentally, and some of that stuff 971 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 2: is hard to come back from. 972 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 5: Appreciate everybody being with us live today on YouTube for 973 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 5: the Anticiploring podcast. 974 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 8: This is the Ray Longo minute right in the heart 975 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 8: of the show as usual. 976 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 5: As we update the story on UFC three thirteen, our 977 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 5: producer Code Blue says, Justin Gatsche has have ten minutes 978 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 5: ago on Snapchat said he is waiting for a new opponent, and. 979 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 8: Arman saur Kian is one name that we. 980 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 5: Talked about Ray off the top of the show, and 981 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 5: I feel like we as fans were told when he 982 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 5: was unable to make the walk against Islama Kashevin didn't 983 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 5: weigh in that he might just need a couple of 984 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,240 Speaker 5: weeks and then be ready to go. If you're chasing 985 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 5: a world championship, right, shouldn't armand Sarakian accept this fight 986 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 5: if offered on March eighth? 987 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 2: Right? 988 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 5: I mean, you think Sean Brady is prepared optimally for 989 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 5: Leon Edwards on March twenty second. These guys on the 990 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 5: cusp of a world title. I don't want them to 991 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 5: beat me up when they see me. But like, if 992 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 5: you're chasing a world championship and you're on the cusp, 993 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 5: if that's really what you're about, you got to take 994 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 5: your opportunity. I mean, blah muhammada Billy walk going into 995 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 5: Gilbert Burns fight, Like, what are we doing? 996 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, if that's your goal. Like again to Seroukian, obviously 997 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 2: is a guy with money, and when you're not desperate, 998 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,879 Speaker 2: you're not going to do anything kind of desperate, I guess. 999 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 2: I mean that's the way I'm looking at He Definitely 1000 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 2: he's not doing himself any favors by not taking a fight. 1001 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,359 Speaker 2: If you're asking me one million percent, he should take 1002 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 2: that fight, He one hundred percent should take the fight, 1003 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 2: especially based on what happened last time. I think he's 1004 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 2: got to go back in there and prove himself. But 1005 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 2: you know, you got to remember, even as a promoter, 1006 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 2: who do you want? You want a guy that's desperate 1007 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 2: for money or you want a guy that's now I'm 1008 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 2: just gonna do what I'm gonna do. I'm not motivated. 1009 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 6: At of guys. Yes, yeah, today, I know you. 1010 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. I'm just saying from me being 1011 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 2: around and watching the way different people interact. You know, 1012 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 2: some guys aren't gonna budget. It doesn't like five hundred 1013 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 2: grand might be good to one guy and another guy 1014 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 2: might go, what like five hundred grand? You want me 1015 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 2: to kill myself A five? It's all you know, Perception 1016 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,240 Speaker 2: is reality. It's all perspective, Kenny. 1017 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,760 Speaker 5: We have a lot of UFC champions that are chasing 1018 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 5: all time greatness. When you hear a la Chandre Pantosia, 1019 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,879 Speaker 5: he talks of Demetrius Johnson, blab Muhammad as people laugh 1020 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,760 Speaker 5: in his face, has put this unbelievable historic winning street together, 1021 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 5: invokes the name George Saint Pierre Morob Dwallash Willie Right, 1022 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,799 Speaker 5: I don't know, man. I think as a promoter, Ray 1023 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 5: and Kenny, it's like you want to know that the 1024 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 5: guys who you're belting in there want to turn that 1025 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 5: thing around and prove themselves against Shotcott rock Monov are 1026 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 5: the next best guy who's available. And I think, and 1027 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 5: again some of this is just speculation, you know, but 1028 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 5: like is armansaer Khan if given this opportunity, right like, 1029 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 5: and to be about that and be constantly in competition. 1030 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 5: I hope so because skill for skill is as good 1031 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 5: as any lightweight in. 1032 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 6: The world, you know. 1033 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, And I'll add this, I think from from a 1034 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 7: fighter's perspective also, I think talk about perception ray the 1035 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 7: idea that you are optimally trained for an event also 1036 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 7: means something. And for some guys if they feel like, ah, 1037 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 7: you know, I always do a six week camp. This 1038 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,319 Speaker 7: is a championship fight. When I don't do a six 1039 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 7: week camp, I can't do a hard five rounds. I 1040 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 7: got to say no to this, so, you know, like 1041 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 7: some people are very particular about that. And I definitely 1042 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,320 Speaker 7: think there's an economic concern here as well that I 1043 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 7: think that's huge. But for some guys also the mental 1044 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,360 Speaker 7: aspect of going if I don't feel like I am 1045 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 7: one prepared, I'm not going to go in there. So 1046 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 7: and it depends on what stage they are in their career, 1047 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 7: you know, if they're trying to be a better wrestler, 1048 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 7: a better striker, you know, prove their conditioning and they 1049 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 7: only have. 1050 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:19,320 Speaker 6: Three weeks to do it. 1051 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 2: I tell you, Kenny, one million percent the on like 1052 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 2: if I didn't torture Sarah. He he why he wouldn't 1053 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 2: feel good even Wideman. When Wideman started getting injured, we 1054 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 2: got done with one training session. Like his wife goes, 1055 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 2: how come you don't have him doing the uh, you know, 1056 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 2: like the I used to make him do, like the 1057 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 2: bungee cords to some type. But what he can't do it. 1058 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 2: The guy was over in the corner crying, I go, 1059 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 2: what do you want me to do? He's he's injured. 1060 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 2: But these guys need to be pushed. But Kenny, you're 1061 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 2: one million percent on that. My point only is like 1062 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 2: all the guys were bringing up to poor yeas Zeruki, 1063 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 2: and it's just a common denominator. They seem to be 1064 00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,040 Speaker 2: well off. They're not desperate, that's all. That's all I 1065 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,320 Speaker 2: was saying, Like, you gotta give me a guy who's 1066 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 2: not like that, and then we can take it to 1067 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 2: a different level. 1068 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,879 Speaker 5: Oh well, let's talk about Justin Gaichi, who seemingly says 1069 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,720 Speaker 5: he's waiting for an opponent, And historically Justin and Trevor 1070 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 5: Whitman would be calculated about this and have been right. 1071 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 8: So I don't know if he would accept a fight. 1072 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:19,839 Speaker 6: Right. 1073 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,440 Speaker 8: Let's take Hanato Moykano. 1074 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 5: Right, he just lost about as unspectacularly as you could 1075 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 5: to Islami Kashev. With respect to Hinato money Moi Kano. 1076 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 5: I don't see Kenny and Ray much upside to that 1077 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 5: fight for Justin Gaigie, So I would imagine if that's 1078 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 5: the name being presented with respect, he's not accepting that fight, right, 1079 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 5: armansaur Kian is a very difficult fight. 1080 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 6: But how about Justin Geichie? Right? 1081 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 5: Is he still desperate chasing the world title? I mean 1082 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 5: his bank roll is outstanding, right, So. 1083 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, Gaichie's a fucking Manhattan though. I think I don't 1084 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,800 Speaker 2: think he's gonna turn down any fight. I think he 1085 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 2: goes in there to fight. He loves the competition. I 1086 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 2: think mentally he's a different cat because he came he 1087 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:04,319 Speaker 2: came from a totally different background. So I think he's Yeah, 1088 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 2: you know, these are guys that seem like they were 1089 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 2: brought up kind of financially well off, you know what 1090 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 2: I mean. So Gaigie, we've seen him, I mean, and 1091 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's anything calcul I remember Trevor saying, 1092 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 2: like when he first came in before one fight goes 1093 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 2: that's just gonna throw like he's likely there might not 1094 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 2: even be a game plan, you know. I mean that's 1095 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 2: that's I might be paraphrasing, or that's the way I interpreted, 1096 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 2: and that's who he is. That's that Geechee's crazy. I mean, 1097 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 2: he's a company guy. I don't think he's going to 1098 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:34,359 Speaker 2: turn down any fight. 1099 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,720 Speaker 8: I know that he has said recently. 1100 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 5: Justin Gachie has that Islami Kashev is sort of the 1101 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,840 Speaker 5: dream fight for him, and certainly that's the Beltholder. I 1102 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 5: just think it's very interesting at the highest levels of 1103 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 5: the game, right in terms of fights like this and 1104 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:54,320 Speaker 5: how relatively ready an athlete is, right, Armansauer Coount is 1105 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 5: certainly not as desperate as say Bala Mohammad or Morob 1106 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 5: Dualish Willie, who really aren't even fighting for money. They're 1107 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,800 Speaker 5: fighting for mixed martial arts legacy. 1108 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 2: Couldn't care, tru You've seen it. 1109 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:06,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's not. 1110 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 2: He goesdn't care. I told you that guy. I'll go 1111 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 2: back to construction tomorrow. I don't think he'll give his ship. 1112 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:11,359 Speaker 8: Dude. 1113 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 5: I honestly got like teary eyed seeing him get that 1114 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 5: ovation in Sydney. It was it was unbelievable, right, It 1115 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 5: was deafening for Diego Lopez. It was honestly like, I 1116 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 5: need to see an ear doctor. After Morob came out, 1117 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 5: it was unbelievable to just see him get showered with 1118 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 5: that love and see how that fell for him. 1119 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 2: Really, and John, I tell you what I love about 1120 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 2: it most is when al Joe was the champ, he 1121 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 2: kind of was in the backgrounds. But as soon as 1122 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 2: al Joe vake, you know, when he lost and moved up, 1123 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 2: he was on fire man. You could see this guy. 1124 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 2: So I just think about that type of character. He 1125 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 2: could have did this six years ago, but I think 1126 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 2: in respect, out of respect for al Jo, he laid back. 1127 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 2: And I love the way it worked out. I think 1128 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,360 Speaker 2: it just worked out fantastic. I'm happy for him and 1129 00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 2: he's not. He's his trajectory. I think it's still skyrocketing, 1130 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So pow it to him, 1131 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 2: And I'm glad you got the witness that because yeah, 1132 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 2: you know, he's a really cool dude. 1133 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 5: Hey, did you guys see that little spark plug my 1134 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 5: favorite fighter Ricky Simon this weekend? 1135 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 6: Huh oh man spoiled spoiled. My decision repping the Pacific Northwest. 1136 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,320 Speaker 5: I always think of me Rob and Ricky Simon and 1137 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,799 Speaker 5: if that fight would ever come around again. 1138 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 8: You never know, you never know. Everybody's sleeping on fucking 1139 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:26,840 Speaker 8: Ricky Simone. 1140 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 2: I'll tell you two unbelievable knockouts. Hook cross, that's it. 1141 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,320 Speaker 2: Nothing's fancy, Kenny, No fancy folk work, you know, not 1142 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 2: right down the middle man hold, how good is oh Silva? Man, 1143 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 2: he's got to have bricks in his hands like box. 1144 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 2: He's used to getting hit. He got right Latin like fact. 1145 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 6: Sorry, it is a very good striker. We're talking about 1146 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 6: a world class striker. Yeah, John Silva's just clowning him 1147 00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,319 Speaker 6: like he's I mean, unbelievable. Even the finish at the end, 1148 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 6: it was like a triple elbow to the ribs and 1149 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,320 Speaker 6: then pinted downward elbow to the head. And he did it. 1150 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,800 Speaker 6: It looked like he did it in like a second. 1151 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 6: It was so fast and malicious it was it was Kenny, 1152 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 6: I get again. 1153 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,320 Speaker 2: I love I love what you're saying. I mean, the 1154 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,840 Speaker 2: other guy goes down and he kind of looks like 1155 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 2: the ref like, what the are you fucking kidding me? 1156 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 2: He looked, and then that guy went from this is 1157 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 2: what I love about him. He went from total relaxation. 1158 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 2: So he got off like ten blows in a second, 1159 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 2: like oh really, Oh you want the fight to go on? 1160 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 2: Let me just play. And I think he had mercy 1161 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 2: when he went to the body. I think he hit 1162 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 2: him two or three times in the head and he goes, dude, 1163 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 2: I could land another seventh. But I think that was 1164 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:53,799 Speaker 2: a merciful, beautiful display of violence. I just he's he's 1165 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 2: he's starting to he's sup that guy with that he 1166 00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,320 Speaker 2: got knocked off his feet. 1167 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 5: You know what should I say the next time he 1168 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 5: knocks somebody out? Good Lord, Praise the Lord. A lot 1169 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 5: of different ways in which you could go. We got 1170 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,360 Speaker 5: a few more minutes here with Ray long ago, and 1171 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 5: then we'll get to Petrie and the main event Challenge 1172 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,839 Speaker 5: Flyweight main event coming up this weekend. And speaking of which, 1173 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 5: the best flywaight prospect outside the UFC Poomyakuda getting it 1174 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 5: done last weekend by unanimous decision and then gets down 1175 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 5: on his knees and begs for a spot in the UFC. Raymond, 1176 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:32,080 Speaker 5: congratulations on a big win. Your thoughts on uh, Poomy 1177 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 5: getting ever closer to that UFC doorstep. 1178 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 2: I mean, look at his high lady put up. I 1179 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 2: think he showed a little bit of everything I thought 1180 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:44,320 Speaker 2: Gilda Burns called a great fight. I don't know what 1181 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 2: to say. He's a great kid, super talented, Like he said, 1182 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 2: this is all he's got, And I don't know what 1183 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 2: the fuck the quagmire is. If that's the right, that's 1184 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,800 Speaker 2: a good one. What I mean like this is that 1185 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. I put it this way. I leave 1186 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 2: this sport tomorrow, I'm gonna go fucking code red, code 1187 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,839 Speaker 2: fucking red. I just don't want to do it now, 1188 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 2: But I don't. I really never saw this in my life. 1189 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 2: As long as I've been around a long time. With 1190 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 2: this shit, I don't think I've ever witnessed anything like this. 1191 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 2: What do you want the kid to do? Like, I'm 1192 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 2: not sure what's going on. I really don't. Nothing is 1193 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 2: makes sense to me. 1194 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you and I largely are aligned looking 1195 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 5: for answers, but uh, you know, I touch my top 1196 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,280 Speaker 5: lip to my bottom lip. But yeah, it just doesn't 1197 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,839 Speaker 5: make a whole lot of sense. But his moment will come, 1198 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,120 Speaker 5: His moment will come. Thank you, all right, ray, before 1199 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 5: we let you go, would you rather No, I'm. 1200 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 2: Just kidding Jesus, Mary and Joseph. 1201 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 5: Tom Aspinall versus John Jones. There is a betting line 1202 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 5: on Draftking Sportsbook right now. Care to predict who is 1203 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:54,800 Speaker 5: the betting favorite? 1204 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 2: I would think I'm gonna say Aspen All a slight favorite. 1205 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:06,080 Speaker 5: Aspenall minus one forty two, John Jones plus one twenty Yeah, 1206 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 5: so wow, Drake probably put a mill on John Jones already. 1207 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,400 Speaker 6: You don't see that too often John Jones as an underdog. 1208 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 5: Huh yeah, all right, Ray, Well, hope we didn't screw 1209 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 5: up your week too much with the Tuesday curve ball. 1210 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 5: What do you got going on the rest of the 1211 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 5: day at twelve thirty pm Eastern right now on a Tuesday. 1212 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm gonna eat and I go down. I 1213 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:28,040 Speaker 2: got the next monster out of the Jim Levan Sparring 1214 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,080 Speaker 2: at one thirty, so I'm very excited to get down 1215 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 2: there and keep this guy's going. He's fighting March twenty 1216 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 2: second along with Dylan Montello, and I think Austin Hallick's 1217 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 2: making his pro debut on the same night in a 1218 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 2: different state. But uh, big big things coming. I really 1219 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 2: love where the Jim's going the guy's crushed it over 1220 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,440 Speaker 2: the weekend. I think we went five and one. But 1221 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 2: shout out to everybody. You know we got another kid 1222 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 2: one eighty five ConA Cullin. It might be a mass murderer. 1223 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 2: He got back from the fight. Kenny. I actually opened 1224 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 2: his trunk and checked the dead hook is I mean 1225 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 2: this guy, this guy is starting to funk. He's actually 1226 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 2: starting to scam me. But shout out to oh b 1227 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna forget everybody's name, but Freddie v Edwin. Uh 1228 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 2: who's the other? Oh my god, I'm blanking on his name. 1229 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 1: Uh. 1230 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:21,920 Speaker 2: Where a great fight he had against a kid? I 1231 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 2: don't know. Every everybody did great. Everybody did great. 1232 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 6: Just don't get arrested. 1233 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 2: We need you over here. Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna 1234 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,080 Speaker 2: meet everybody soon. I know this exciting. 1235 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,240 Speaker 6: I'm not opening any trunks. I'll tell you that, right. 1236 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 2: Aft, I'll stay away from anything, you know, stay away 1237 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 2: from that guy. Yeah. 1238 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 8: Well, we wish levon. 1239 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,440 Speaker 2: To Von. Who do we got the Cody? Who's the 1240 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 2: other guys? 1241 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 6: I thought Cody terrible radio? 1242 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,840 Speaker 5: Right, Like, if we give you any opportunity to shout 1243 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 5: out all these tremendous local athletes. 1244 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 2: But not gonna what the fuck man, I'm forgetting. 1245 00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, do you know Levon's surname? 1246 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 6: You know his last name. 1247 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 8: He's the next big thing, haven't forgid? Yeah, I'll hold 1248 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 8: I'll hold you got any whole music for me? 1249 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 2: Ship hold on a second. 1250 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 8: Petrie sitting in the background. 1251 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ryan Lopez started out the night. What a big 1252 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 2: victory for him? Ryan, really good guy. I think I 1253 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 2: still forgot somebody I don't know. 1254 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 6: Uh, a lot of fighters. 1255 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 2: I'm getting old. I mean we're like twelve and two 1256 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 2: in the last month. I mean it's it's really ron Kabba. 1257 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:33,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, Poppa Live. 1258 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 5: That's a power name, levonkabliv Well, I wish you all 1259 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 5: the best with him today. 1260 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 6: Have a great many evening. 1261 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 8: I know the gym has a ton of momentum. Steve 1262 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 8: Lee just running that train. 1263 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 2: Bro knocking it out of the park. 1264 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean your Instagram, it's all fire, except when 1265 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 8: they're like, who do you like this weekend? 1266 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,560 Speaker 2: I'm not that I put an end today. Yeah. I 1267 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 2: like everybody all right, but I want everybody to get along, John, 1268 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 2: can't we just all get along? 1269 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:04,439 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1270 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 8: Well, next week I'm out. It's you and Ken flow. 1271 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 2: Wow yep. 1272 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 6: So we'll see how you guys do without me. Okay, right, hey, 1273 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 6: love you, but. 1274 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 2: I'm actually looking forward to I can wait. 1275 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 6: Where are you going? Oh, he's heard about personal don't 1276 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 6: worry about worry. 1277 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 8: My brother. We'll talk to me a. 1278 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 2: Little closer than that. I'll talk there. 1279 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 5: He is very long a minute every week here on 1280 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,960 Speaker 5: the Annakin Florent podcast. Always a fun time with Ray 1281 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 5: and I have one thing in my notes and we 1282 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 5: can go three while with Brian Petrie here if you 1283 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 5: want to hunger games. 1284 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 8: Right, what's up? Epte? 1285 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 3: What's going on? 1286 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:45,920 Speaker 6: Boys? 1287 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 8: Nice poets on shirt? 1288 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 6: Right? 1289 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 2: Right? 1290 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,600 Speaker 5: Hunger for Mixed martial arts greatness. Aaron Blanchfield is the 1291 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,880 Speaker 5: name that I always come back to. And there's another 1292 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 5: name that we're actually going to feature on the Pronunciation 1293 01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,919 Speaker 5: of the week. The factors into this conversation. But yeah, 1294 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 5: you know there are certain athletes Joaquin Buckley, right, yeah, 1295 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,640 Speaker 5: I mean he definitely cares about the cheddar. 1296 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 8: But that man is of clear intention and a singular mind. 1297 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 5: In twenty twenty five, trying to become the undisputed UFC 1298 01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 5: welsweight champion, and I think you gotta be ready to 1299 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,000 Speaker 5: go if you're on Mon Sour Yiad and hopefully he's 1300 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 5: fighting justin Gegee on Marching. 1301 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more, couldn't agree more? Boys, I've heard you 1302 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 3: talking about it backstage. I mean, if you want to 1303 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 3: be the guy, you gotta be the fucking guy. You 1304 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 3: gotta step up sometimes. And I love guys I do. 1305 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 3: And let's see what happens. It's interesting to see. I'll 1306 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,800 Speaker 3: be curious to who Phil like Gaige's gonna be a 1307 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 3: little picky, but maybe I'm wrong. We'll see. It'll be interesting. 1308 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,439 Speaker 5: If Diego Lopez didn't have an undisputed title fight coming 1309 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 5: up April twelfth, you can be sure his name would 1310 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 5: already be in the hat to factually. 1311 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,400 Speaker 3: Volkanosky too. I think he'd probably be like, ah, fucker, 1312 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 3: y'all do Gategee too? 1313 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, that guy always down for I think for Vulk, 1314 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 5: maybe the preparation time might be a little bit challenging. 1315 01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll see what happens, all right. 1316 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 5: I do want to get to this pronunciation of the 1317 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 5: week if I could, because among the announcements for UFC 1318 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 5: three point fifteen, you like our new little stinger, They're 1319 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 5: the greatest producer in radio. Okay, So it's UFC three 1320 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:17,920 Speaker 5: fifteen Muhammad versus Della Maddelena. But Valentino Chevchenko is defending 1321 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 5: her title against a French woman and number one contender 1322 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,480 Speaker 5: that night, and her first name is Manon, and there 1323 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,280 Speaker 5: are some folks on social media that really don't like 1324 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 5: the way I pronounce her name. 1325 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,280 Speaker 8: So, Brian, we're not even going to have you say 1326 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 8: that good. 1327 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,440 Speaker 5: We're just going to present this file to the masses 1328 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,960 Speaker 5: and then Kenny and Brian on the back end are 1329 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 5: going to tell me how they think I should pronounce 1330 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,680 Speaker 5: it on the air. But really I'm just trying to 1331 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,440 Speaker 5: mimic what Manol says. So without further delay, let's get 1332 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 5: to the pronunciation of the week. 1333 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:48,600 Speaker 3: That's Cada. 1334 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:56,280 Speaker 9: My name is Manon Zubist Fjor. My name is Manon Zubistfjo. 1335 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:04,520 Speaker 6: It's not fire Rot Cody. 1336 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,080 Speaker 8: Hit that file once more if you would. 1337 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 9: My name is Manon Zubist Fjor. My name is Manon 1338 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:13,120 Speaker 9: Zubist Fiore. 1339 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:19,960 Speaker 5: Manol the Beast, And I'm here, fure yeah, right right here, 1340 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:24,040 Speaker 5: that's what I'm hearing. So I don't hear fyorro right now, 1341 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 5: maybe she cuts it short and maybe I would actually 1342 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,960 Speaker 5: open up a conversation. I actually confirmed with Dracus in 1343 01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,960 Speaker 5: Australia that it wasn't Dracus or Dracus because my eye 1344 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 5: doctor is South African. He's like, you gotta get everybody 1345 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 5: saying Dracus and I was like, all right, you're right. 1346 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:40,800 Speaker 6: Oh. 1347 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,760 Speaker 5: When I sit down with Mana, I'm gonna say there's 1348 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 5: a segment of the fan base that doesn't like hearing. 1349 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:46,840 Speaker 6: Me say fure. 1350 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 5: So is it fyorro or I don't know what they 1351 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 5: want to hear, but you heard it there from Manal first, 1352 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 5: it's Manal fure all right, Fellas Petri. By the way, 1353 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,960 Speaker 5: you put your whole stack on Anthony Fluffy Hernandez last week? 1354 01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 6: Is that what happened? I did not, I did? 1355 01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 2: I did? 1356 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:06,640 Speaker 3: Oh, Kenny, Yeah, But I am as cold as they 1357 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 3: can be. And apparently I'm mister McGoo. I fall through 1358 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 3: my deck, I bang my nose on my fucking garage 1359 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,880 Speaker 3: store because it was halfway up, and I'm chasing kids. 1360 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,560 Speaker 3: I'm mister magoo. Now I just hurt myself every freaking day. 1361 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:25,640 Speaker 8: Unbelievable to show man, my notes were really poor here. 1362 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,120 Speaker 5: I actually attributed that one thousand dollars bet to BP 1363 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 5: and not to Ken Flow, so it was ken Flow 1364 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,840 Speaker 5: put his entire stack on Anthony Fluffy Hernandez. 1365 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:36,480 Speaker 8: Never in doubt. 1366 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 5: All right, smart guy, Main event challenge, UFC Fight Night 1367 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 5: Cop versus Almabaya. We won't go too long on the premiums. 1368 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,520 Speaker 5: But when you have a ranking, we talk about you. 1369 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:44,919 Speaker 6: Sure. 1370 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,040 Speaker 5: Charles Johnson has that. He's number twelve in the world. 1371 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:51,520 Speaker 5: He's the underdog here at flyweight taking on Ramazan Timirov, 1372 01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,040 Speaker 5: who was minus one thirty. Charles Johnson plus one ten, 1373 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 5: so Timirov is eighteen and three. He wanted UFC debut 1374 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 5: by stoppage against CJ. Ban He got it last October. 1375 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,480 Speaker 5: He's won ten in a row. Brian, you think he 1376 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 5: take CJ's ranking this weekend or what? 1377 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 3: It's interesting? He throws hammers, right, he dropped for CJ 1378 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 3: Forgarl like three times before he put him out. This 1379 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 3: guy throws. You know he's got that Ova in his name, 1380 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,640 Speaker 3: so you think, oh, this is gonna wrestle fuck me, no, no, no, no, 1381 01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 3: This dude throws. And when I like this is interesting 1382 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,280 Speaker 3: because Charles Johnson's very slick He's very smooth, a lot 1383 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:24,880 Speaker 3: of volume, a lot of head movement, a lot of 1384 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,920 Speaker 3: different movements. He also can wrestle, he can mix it 1385 01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 3: up a little bit. I'm really curious. This is gonna 1386 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:30,880 Speaker 3: be a live betting spot for me. The line is 1387 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,640 Speaker 3: bouncing up and down. Got Charles Johnson at plus one ten. 1388 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 3: You can find him on the spots, you know, basically 1389 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 3: even money. I like CJ here for this fact that 1390 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,320 Speaker 3: I want to see what this dude who's throwing hammers 1391 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 3: does in second and third round. Right, you can put 1392 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,680 Speaker 3: anybody on the first round. What happens in the second round, 1393 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,200 Speaker 3: third round. We know Charles Johnson's got the gas, he's 1394 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 3: got the motor, he's got the speed in the volume. 1395 01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,439 Speaker 3: He's only been out start twice in his UFC career, 1396 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 3: but by barely. The guy puts it on you and 1397 01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,680 Speaker 3: again he's developing power a little bit. He knocked out 1398 01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,000 Speaker 3: Josh Man, which is very nice. And I feel like, 1399 01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,280 Speaker 3: if you're loading up and Charles Johnson slips one of 1400 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 3: your shots, you get caught. Uh, it'd be interesting. But 1401 01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:08,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna hold my breath on to off to round one. 1402 01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:10,960 Speaker 3: Round one is what I'm gonna see, and then that's 1403 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:11,920 Speaker 3: where my money's gonna go. 1404 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 8: Cathlow Charles Johnson, the Pride of Saint Louis. 1405 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,520 Speaker 5: He's got two nicknames on his fighter bio, the Pride 1406 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,760 Speaker 5: of Saint Louis, Charles Energy Johnson. Four straight wins, Kenny, 1407 01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,360 Speaker 5: all of them in twenty twenty four. Of your thoughts 1408 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:23,080 Speaker 5: on him this weekend. 1409 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:23,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, has some. 1410 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,920 Speaker 7: Serious momentum right now. And you know, his length as 1411 01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,080 Speaker 7: well is a problem that division. But he is a 1412 01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 7: clean striker man. But I think he does most of 1413 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,840 Speaker 7: his best work. I think when he's leading the dance, 1414 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 7: when he's moving forward, when he's backing you up, you're 1415 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 7: in trouble. You cannot let someone that long and strong 1416 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 7: to back you up. He's not like a one punch 1417 01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:48,560 Speaker 7: knockout kind of guy, but his volume, his trickery is 1418 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,840 Speaker 7: something to deal with. But I think this guy is 1419 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,480 Speaker 7: it t Mirov? Timirov? 1420 01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 6: Is that what it is? 1421 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:53,520 Speaker 8: Tov? 1422 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:54,440 Speaker 6: Yes, Sir Jimirov. 1423 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 7: He's got some serious power and all it takes is 1424 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,360 Speaker 7: won for this kid. Extremely powerful and he's very aggressive, 1425 01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,919 Speaker 7: and I have a hard time believing that he's gonna 1426 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 7: allow Charles Johnson to move forward for too long in 1427 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,240 Speaker 7: this fight. Now, Brian made a great point. It's like, okay, well, 1428 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:11,560 Speaker 7: what does he have past one round? 1429 01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 2: I do not know. 1430 01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:16,000 Speaker 7: I think really the smart play is probably just playing 1431 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:19,280 Speaker 7: the underdog here, but I'm not that smart. I'm gonna 1432 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 7: go with team Mirov here. I think he might be 1433 01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,960 Speaker 7: the real deal. He got a little wild, which is 1434 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,280 Speaker 7: a little concerning against someone like you know, who's technical 1435 01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,200 Speaker 7: like Charles Johnson, but when he lands his shots, man, 1436 01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,400 Speaker 7: he has absolutely like killer instinct, goes to the body. 1437 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,680 Speaker 6: Really well, give me tea Mirov. 1438 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 5: How about the thorough handicap By the way, from our 1439 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,440 Speaker 5: guys here on DraftKings Network early in the week. That 1440 01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:41,840 Speaker 5: is an early preliminary matchup at flyweight. Now we get 1441 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,800 Speaker 5: to the featured prelim at featherweight Chepe machine Gun Madaskal 1442 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 5: minus four to twenty five taken on Hikardo'hamosh who comes 1443 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:54,080 Speaker 5: back plus three thirty. So Brian real quick Chepe four 1444 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,440 Speaker 5: and O on the UFC wins over Trevor Peak, Jack Jenkins, 1445 01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 5: Morgan Charier, and Damon Jackson. 1446 01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:00,560 Speaker 8: Now draws a third teen fight. 1447 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,600 Speaker 5: UFC veteran Homos's pretty respectable eight and five in the 1448 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:07,120 Speaker 5: Big Show dating to that twenty seventeen UFC debut. But 1449 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,440 Speaker 5: Chepe north of four to one right now on DraftKings 1450 01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,960 Speaker 5: Sports Book. Bride talk to me, and I'm not scared 1451 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:13,360 Speaker 5: of the four to one John. 1452 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,320 Speaker 3: I know I got this big thing on my nose, 1453 01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,479 Speaker 3: but goddamn it, I know what I'm talking about when 1454 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,200 Speaker 3: it comes to fighting. Chepe's a beast I have placed 1455 01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:24,439 Speaker 3: in order. I ordered two fighter shirts recently. Again, I 1456 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,240 Speaker 3: gotta be careful not to be the over MMA guy 1457 01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,960 Speaker 3: wearing all this shit. But I had to order a 1458 01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 3: shirt of Joan Silva, which is badass. And then I 1459 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:37,519 Speaker 3: found one of Chepi Madiscow off his website or excuse me, 1460 01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,760 Speaker 3: a link from his Instagram. I gotta support the machine gun. 1461 01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:45,920 Speaker 3: This dude motor is unbelievable. His pre fights in the 1462 01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 3: UFC is stacked right. He took everyone on like everyone 1463 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 3: wants an easy path. I'm gonna have a pad victory 1464 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:53,679 Speaker 3: to get to the UFC. It took him a little 1465 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,479 Speaker 3: bit longer because he fought them dogs and now he's 1466 01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:00,200 Speaker 3: fighting the dogs in the UFC and Hakada homos out 1467 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,760 Speaker 3: of homos. This guy has a bit of a dog 1468 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,000 Speaker 3: in him, but he also sometimes it's a little puppy. 1469 01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,719 Speaker 3: Sometimes he quits. Sometimes there it's like, what, what's gonna 1470 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,800 Speaker 3: show up? Cheape's gonna break him right, takedowns, clinch work. 1471 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:16,080 Speaker 3: He's stronger, he's more powerful. I think Homos is gonna 1472 01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 3: throw some spinning shit. I think he'll have one or 1473 01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,479 Speaker 3: two tricks off his back and then it's smash city 1474 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:21,719 Speaker 3: for Chepi Madisca. 1475 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:22,400 Speaker 6: I like him. 1476 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,439 Speaker 3: I like the machine on big here. Maybe hopefully this 1477 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 3: shirt comes in by Saturday, so I'll be reponant while 1478 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,160 Speaker 3: I'll be stacking my my cash olas because I need it, 1479 01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:30,880 Speaker 3: need some wins. 1480 01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:34,439 Speaker 6: Give me Chepe, let me see that machine shirt next week. 1481 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,040 Speaker 3: Oh you got it, I'll wear it. 1482 01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, canceler Chepe Modiscal minus four twenty five Hikardo Homos 1483 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:40,759 Speaker 5: plus three thirty. 1484 01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,559 Speaker 7: Your thoughts don't love this fight for Hikardo Homos, who 1485 01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,160 Speaker 7: has a lot of skill and he's a very dangerous guy. 1486 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:50,400 Speaker 7: But I think Chipe, like Brian said, brings that motor, 1487 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,639 Speaker 7: brings that conditioning brings that durability as well. So even 1488 01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,880 Speaker 7: if he does eat a couple shots here and there, 1489 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,720 Speaker 7: he's got a chint from hell. Uh and then after 1490 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 7: round one, man, it's probab gonna be all mighty skall. 1491 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,240 Speaker 7: And he also has a style that could potentially break 1492 01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,720 Speaker 7: homos where he just kind of gives up. So I'm 1493 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:11,120 Speaker 7: with you, Brian Midus Caall. I like him a lot here. 1494 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,040 Speaker 7: I don't love the number you know for me, but 1495 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:15,680 Speaker 7: mightas call takes this. 1496 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,599 Speaker 5: All right, Now we get to the six fight main 1497 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,040 Speaker 5: card UFC Fight Night Cop versus Alma Bayev live on 1498 01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,200 Speaker 5: ESPN Plus from the APEX main card opener at welterweight 1499 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:27,479 Speaker 5: left handed God. 1500 01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a two oh nine tattoo. 1501 01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:35,360 Speaker 5: Yeh, Danny Barlow minus three oh five Sam Patterson plus 1502 01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,680 Speaker 5: two forty five Briy. Patterson's UFC debut could not have 1503 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,800 Speaker 5: gone worse, but he responded last year in kind two 1504 01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,800 Speaker 5: straight first round submission wins. Now, though big step up 1505 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:49,519 Speaker 5: in competition against Memphis, Tennessee's Danny left handed God Barlow. 1506 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,800 Speaker 6: Bri lead us off if you would what. 1507 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:59,720 Speaker 3: Left handed God baby Memphis mate, Memphis mate, Listen. I 1508 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,760 Speaker 3: love Danny Barlow. Everyone knows that about me. Debut on 1509 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,479 Speaker 3: the Contentent series. Obviously, there's there's so much to work 1510 01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:09,360 Speaker 3: with here, right, Broker's arm against Quinlan, doesn't let it heal, 1511 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,680 Speaker 3: and then comes back and fights against Nikolai Venetekoff the 1512 01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,320 Speaker 3: dude who pushed off Savanna for this week and I 1513 01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,680 Speaker 3: can't pronounce the name. In a very close fight, right, 1514 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,880 Speaker 3: but this dude's he's like, yeah, I need to fight. 1515 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,840 Speaker 3: You know, his fucking forums broken. Hopefully he's healthy. And 1516 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,000 Speaker 3: Sam Patterson, this is a guy that John Gooden the 1517 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,960 Speaker 3: UFC zone. John Gooden sees in the gym, loves him, 1518 01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,880 Speaker 3: has you know, some ability. Obviously, he's coming off two 1519 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,840 Speaker 3: submission wins. He jumped up to one seventy, which I 1520 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:35,640 Speaker 3: like once fifty five might have been a stretch for him, 1521 01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,639 Speaker 3: but he really hasn't fought against a guy as big 1522 01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,000 Speaker 3: as Barlow. Barlow's just as big as him. I think 1523 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,040 Speaker 3: maybe said Sam Patterson might have a little bit of 1524 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,760 Speaker 3: an advantage, but this is still dude coming from fifty five, 1525 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,080 Speaker 3: little like nast here. I think he's gonna struggle to 1526 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,599 Speaker 3: try to get Barlow down. I see Barlow piecing him 1527 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,639 Speaker 3: up that left hand. To God, Baby's gonna find a spot. 1528 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,519 Speaker 3: I'm a little worried because I don't want to overload 1529 01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,400 Speaker 3: on Barlow and get the Google eys like I do. 1530 01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,720 Speaker 3: I could see itill Paul Craig situation follows him to 1531 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,320 Speaker 3: the mat gets caught in something right because Sam Patterson's 1532 01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,600 Speaker 3: very tricky, very long, has some good chokes. Barlow's got 1533 01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,240 Speaker 3: to be smart here, but he's putting out really good 1534 01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:15,519 Speaker 3: content this week on all his social media platforms. I 1535 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:16,439 Speaker 3: can't get enough of the guy. 1536 01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 5: Give me Barlow and Instagram and social media can be 1537 01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,439 Speaker 5: a very valuable resource when it comes to seeing where 1538 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,800 Speaker 5: athletes are. Danny Barlow is eight no, but he did 1539 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,800 Speaker 5: missweight for his last fight. BP sort of outline some 1540 01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,439 Speaker 5: of the injuries in the past. The expectations are high 1541 01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:33,680 Speaker 5: for Danny Barlow. We have championed his cause here. I 1542 01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,599 Speaker 5: know I'm calling the fight Canning. I think Sam Patterson 1543 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,160 Speaker 5: might be live a little bit. I think he is 1544 01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,040 Speaker 5: going to go submission hunting this week and we'll see 1545 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:40,519 Speaker 5: if you can find one. What do you make of 1546 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,799 Speaker 5: this one good main card opener at one seventy Well, John. 1547 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,360 Speaker 6: That's exactly why Patterson is a threat. 1548 01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 7: You're talking about a matchup on the ground between a 1549 01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,800 Speaker 7: Brazilian jutsu black belt and Patterson versus a blue belt 1550 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:54,000 Speaker 7: and Danny Barlow. Now that doesn't always equate to the 1551 01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:57,280 Speaker 7: exact result you think you're gonna get, because for me, 1552 01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,599 Speaker 7: this fight comes down to two things. It comes down 1553 01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,760 Speaker 7: to this and it comes down to wrestling. If Danny 1554 01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:04,400 Speaker 7: Barlow can keep this on the feet, I think this 1555 01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,880 Speaker 7: fight is clearly his. If Sam Patterson's able to get 1556 01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,840 Speaker 7: Barlow down to the ground, maybe just once, he could 1557 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,280 Speaker 7: finish this fight. He's really good with his positioning, he's 1558 01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,760 Speaker 7: good with his subs, especially that rare naked show, and 1559 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,960 Speaker 7: that's where he could take advantage. So Barlow's gonna have 1560 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,240 Speaker 7: to be very disciplined here and he's gonna have to 1561 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:20,799 Speaker 7: be on point with his takedown defense. 1562 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:22,960 Speaker 6: If he's able to do that, I think he'll be 1563 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,720 Speaker 6: just fine. I think where you can make up for 1564 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:30,000 Speaker 6: that potential wrestling disadvantage is with the strength and Brian 1565 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,120 Speaker 6: talking about the size of Barlow, I think he can 1566 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:33,040 Speaker 6: make that up with that. 1567 01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:37,000 Speaker 7: Danny's a slick operator man. Yes, he's athletic. Everyone loves 1568 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,320 Speaker 7: talking about that and that is absolutely true. But he 1569 01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,240 Speaker 7: knows how to put strikes together. He's an intelligent fighter 1570 01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,320 Speaker 7: on the feet. He knows what to throw and when 1571 01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,600 Speaker 7: I like Danny Barlow here don't love the number, but 1572 01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:49,400 Speaker 7: I like Barlow. 1573 01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,000 Speaker 6: I just love listening to you guys. 1574 01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,320 Speaker 5: Handicap here on the main event Challenge next main card 1575 01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:57,560 Speaker 5: matchup at featherweight William Gomes Modust two eighteen taken on 1576 01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 5: hider A Meal, who is plus one eight. Gomas coming 1577 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,080 Speaker 5: off a split win over Joanerson Brito that pushed him 1578 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,840 Speaker 5: to four and oh and the UFC don't look now, 1579 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,679 Speaker 5: but now he faces the undefeated hurricane hider A Meal. 1580 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:13,599 Speaker 5: He trains Brian Uder Gilbert Melendezel Nino Training Center, San Francisco, California, USA. 1581 01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:15,800 Speaker 5: What are he making the forty five ors here? BP 1582 01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,080 Speaker 5: Gomas or Meal for you? 1583 01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:20,760 Speaker 3: I mean Goms is a sneaky four and oh right, 1584 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,160 Speaker 3: and he has a win over Joonison Brittough who that 1585 01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,800 Speaker 3: he tamed that buzz saw. Right, and I know this 1586 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:27,400 Speaker 3: is but this is a when you can go either way, 1587 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,320 Speaker 3: but people always fight at Gomas's pace. He has a 1588 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:35,600 Speaker 3: very slow, methodical pace, very technical, really good kicks and 1589 01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,559 Speaker 3: unbelievable take dun offence. A mill is a hurricane, He's 1590 01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,120 Speaker 3: a buzzsaw. He comes at you, right. I don't think 1591 01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:43,720 Speaker 3: he has the biggest power in the world, even though 1592 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,320 Speaker 3: he's got two knockouts in the UFC. The guy puts 1593 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,840 Speaker 3: a pressure on you and doesn't take a step backwards. 1594 01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:50,160 Speaker 6: That's how he's gonna. 1595 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,519 Speaker 3: Win this fight. I'm tired of picking off favorite tea. 1596 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,040 Speaker 3: I'm tired of giving y'all chalk. 1597 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 6: Guy, that's not me. 1598 01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:57,360 Speaker 3: I'm taking the dog in a mill here, you know. 1599 01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:01,000 Speaker 3: I think he's got a great camp with mal Melendez there, 1600 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:04,080 Speaker 3: Gil Melendez, those guys all fight similar to This guy's 1601 01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,400 Speaker 3: kind of a step above that. He's a new generation. 1602 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,200 Speaker 3: He's good at everything. Card you on point, great chin, 1603 01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:11,599 Speaker 3: and I think he has to take this fight to Gomas. 1604 01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,840 Speaker 3: He cannot let the slow pace a thirty forty two 1605 01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,360 Speaker 3: striking vest because they'll lose. A mill is gonna go 1606 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,040 Speaker 3: out there and gonna go crazy plus one eighty. 1607 01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:19,679 Speaker 6: I like the number. 1608 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,400 Speaker 8: Dog me nicely done. Can't flow Gomas or a meal 1609 01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:24,000 Speaker 8: for you kid? 1610 01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:26,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, A Meil definitely is a hurricane out there. I 1611 01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,960 Speaker 7: think that Gomes, though, has proved time and time again 1612 01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,479 Speaker 7: that he has the discipline, he has the game plan, 1613 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,000 Speaker 7: he has the skills to get it done, and against 1614 01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:36,600 Speaker 7: a guy with not a whole lot of fights in 1615 01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:40,120 Speaker 7: the UFC. While it's a promising career, I think for 1616 01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,280 Speaker 7: hyder A Mill, I think that Gomes is just going 1617 01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,639 Speaker 7: to be a little bit too technical and a little 1618 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:49,960 Speaker 7: bit too disciplined for him where he'll kind of outdecision him. So, uh, 1619 01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:51,920 Speaker 7: gim me Gomes, Neil. 1620 01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:55,480 Speaker 8: Young, you are like her Hurricane? 1621 01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:56,040 Speaker 2: No? 1622 01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:56,840 Speaker 6: All right? 1623 01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:01,679 Speaker 5: At heavyweight UFC JPW has arrived or Portugal's Mario Pinto 1624 01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,880 Speaker 5: a whopping modest three to eighty betting favorite here against 1625 01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,720 Speaker 5: Austin Lane. There's got to be a good nickname when 1626 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:13,160 Speaker 5: your last name is Lane usse lanoy Ah, that's not 1627 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:17,320 Speaker 5: very nice. H Austin Stay and Jo Lane can be 1628 01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,960 Speaker 5: had at plus three hundred. No, there's got to be 1629 01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,360 Speaker 5: like Austin BlackBerry Lane is nothing. I mean, it's a 1630 01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,400 Speaker 5: fucking street name. It could work with almost anything. You know, 1631 01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:28,400 Speaker 5: Austin Strawberry Lane. So Austin Lane could be had at 1632 01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,240 Speaker 5: plus three hundred, folks, if you're interested on DraftKings sports book. 1633 01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,080 Speaker 5: Pinto though nine to oho. He had a knockout on 1634 01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,599 Speaker 5: the Contender series probably last October. Trains out of fite 1635 01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,120 Speaker 5: Zone in London, England. What do you have for us 1636 01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:39,080 Speaker 5: on the Heavyweights Bride. 1637 01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know Austin Lane, this guy, you know, 1638 01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:43,840 Speaker 3: he's been knocked back down, He's got up knock back, 1639 01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:44,439 Speaker 3: time's got up. 1640 01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:44,640 Speaker 6: He went. 1641 01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,559 Speaker 3: He went against the Spain last time out and got 1642 01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,599 Speaker 3: out struck. But Lane is some takedowns in a very 1643 01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,680 Speaker 3: lacklusser performance, athletic played in the NFL. We all know 1644 01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,080 Speaker 3: his backstory. I just don't know what kind of fighter 1645 01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,479 Speaker 3: he is or wants to be. Does he want to 1646 01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:57,920 Speaker 3: be a striker, don't want to be a grappler. I 1647 01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,960 Speaker 3: think he's caught in the middle, and I think Pinto 1648 01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:04,519 Speaker 3: big long, tall guy with some really good striking, really 1649 01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,280 Speaker 3: long range weapons to keep you on the end of 1650 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,439 Speaker 3: your punches. I think he's gonna find Lane's chin, which 1651 01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,880 Speaker 3: has been proven that heavyweight hasn't been the best. I 1652 01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:13,840 Speaker 3: like Pinto by knockout here. I mean it's a high 1653 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:15,760 Speaker 3: number for a debut fighter. I get that a lot 1654 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:17,880 Speaker 3: of these lines are going to be kind of spread out. 1655 01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,400 Speaker 3: I understand that Vegas is sharp nowadays, But yeah, I 1656 01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,640 Speaker 3: like Pinto here probably my first round knockout as well 1657 01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,720 Speaker 3: as how I'll play it. Maybe curb that number a 1658 01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,400 Speaker 3: little bit. Of minus three eighty, maybe we'll get him 1659 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:28,559 Speaker 3: close to plus money. 1660 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:34,080 Speaker 5: Austin Mulberry Lane, Kenny, that's the nursery, Rhyn. The Muffin 1661 01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:37,920 Speaker 5: man lives on fucking Marlbury Lane. Austin Marlberry Lane. He's 1662 01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:41,040 Speaker 5: thirty seven, coming off his first UFC win against Now. 1663 01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:45,360 Speaker 5: I think former UFC fighter Robellus to Spain. Oddsmakers not 1664 01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,920 Speaker 5: expectant that we'll get much out of Austin Lane this weekend. 1665 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:48,760 Speaker 8: Kenny, what do you think? 1666 01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:51,840 Speaker 7: Mario Pinto is a very talented guy. From the fights 1667 01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,120 Speaker 7: that I saw, he is definitely good on the feet. 1668 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:59,880 Speaker 7: He's technical, seems very very composed as well, smart fighter, 1669 01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:02,840 Speaker 7: knows how to nullify things on the ground as well. 1670 01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,360 Speaker 7: Saw a couple of fights where the guy was trying 1671 01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,000 Speaker 7: to just bum rush him from the get go, and 1672 01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:10,160 Speaker 7: I think that's Austin Lane's best bet is to just, 1673 01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:12,400 Speaker 7: you know, throw a flurry of punches from the get 1674 01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:14,280 Speaker 7: go and see if he can make it a chaotic 1675 01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:18,439 Speaker 7: and sloppy fight, because Mario pintall likes a nice, slow paced, 1676 01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,000 Speaker 7: technical fight. In my opinion from what I've seen, so 1677 01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,679 Speaker 7: I think Pinto's the more technical guy. I don't see 1678 01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,880 Speaker 7: him kind of caving to the pressure. If Austin Lane 1679 01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,760 Speaker 7: does bring that, always have to worry about someone who 1680 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,320 Speaker 7: has that kind of physicality like Austin Lane. 1681 01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,920 Speaker 6: But I think Pinto's kind of a big favorite for 1682 01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,320 Speaker 6: a reason, even though it's a debut. Give me Mario 1683 01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:37,760 Speaker 6: Pinto all right? 1684 01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:41,479 Speaker 5: Feature about now at lightweight boys Esteban Ribevic's Mottest two 1685 01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,080 Speaker 5: fifty eight taken on nash Rat Hack Parass, who is 1686 01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:46,599 Speaker 5: plus two ten. So Ribevic's back on the proven ground 1687 01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,880 Speaker 5: Bry after that unbelievable plight of the year with Daniel 1688 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,240 Speaker 5: Selcouber that was at Spear last September. I do think 1689 01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,360 Speaker 5: that fight ends up in the USC Hall of Fame 1690 01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,800 Speaker 5: one day, I really do. Part of that will will 1691 01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:01,160 Speaker 5: be determined as to how these two athletes, do you know, 1692 01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,160 Speaker 5: in their respective UFC careers, you know, But I think 1693 01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,439 Speaker 5: if either one of them Ribavix or zel Huber realizes success, 1694 01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:08,840 Speaker 5: that fight ends up in the Hall of Fame. But 1695 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,560 Speaker 5: more importantly, Bri Now for Revievics spinting at Ford, he 1696 01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,360 Speaker 5: faces Hack Peressed, another guy really on the cusp of 1697 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:15,439 Speaker 5: the lightweight top fifteen. 1698 01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:16,439 Speaker 6: Who do you think prevails here? 1699 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:21,400 Speaker 3: Love this fight. Sabon Riba bicks El Gringle. Yeah, he's 1700 01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,920 Speaker 3: sneakingly becoming one of the guys I really want to 1701 01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,840 Speaker 3: watch every time he's on. It's musty t TV for me. 1702 01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:28,880 Speaker 3: I love the card placement. I love the fight because 1703 01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,880 Speaker 3: Habrass is at thirteen YEFC fights, He's only land three takedowns. 1704 01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,000 Speaker 3: This dude ain't This dude ain't going for takedowns. He's 1705 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,519 Speaker 3: a volume guy. He likes to strike. Tricky little South 1706 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,800 Speaker 3: Paul and not the biggest power in the world, which 1707 01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,080 Speaker 3: is I think what you're gonna need against Riba Bits 1708 01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,639 Speaker 3: who's got a fucking chin. Boys, this dude can take 1709 01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,280 Speaker 3: some shots. He can deliver shots. Not the most technical 1710 01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,760 Speaker 3: guy in the world when he throws strikes, but he 1711 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:51,880 Speaker 3: lands a head kick, a body kick, you feel it. 1712 01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:55,240 Speaker 3: He lands hands, He feels zell Huber very I mean, listen, 1713 01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:58,120 Speaker 3: that dude went out there at Notcea and that was 1714 01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:01,280 Speaker 3: the fight of his life in front of the people, 1715 01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,200 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, the Mexican people, the Mexican 1716 01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:07,120 Speaker 3: fans and the event that was and zel Hubert did 1717 01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,400 Speaker 3: everything in his power to stay in that fight. He 1718 01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,479 Speaker 3: got knocked around by Rubbits, who I think has just 1719 01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:15,080 Speaker 3: that extra gear power and even when he's tired, he's thrown. 1720 01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,519 Speaker 3: I like Rubbis. Here, the numbers a little high for me. 1721 01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,479 Speaker 3: This isn't something I'm gonna throw in a parlay or whatever. 1722 01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,519 Speaker 3: This is probably something I'm gonna feel out comes Saturday. 1723 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,200 Speaker 3: See if we can cut that line a little bit. 1724 01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:26,880 Speaker 3: But after that performance at NOTESI I can understand why he's, 1725 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:28,800 Speaker 3: you know, got the big number. He's the hot hand 1726 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,479 Speaker 3: right now. Give me rub Vicks, probably by decision. I 1727 01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,640 Speaker 3: like the over if anything, because Aspratz has got a 1728 01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,960 Speaker 3: chin on him. But yeah, give me a gringo. 1729 01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,360 Speaker 5: Kenny Hack Press nine and four of the UFC has 1730 01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,679 Speaker 5: not fought since a controversial split decision went over Jared Gordon. 1731 01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,160 Speaker 5: That was last June in Saudi Arabia. Last man to 1732 01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:47,760 Speaker 5: beat him was King Green all the way back in 1733 01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,519 Speaker 5: twenty twenty two. Ribevis on the other side of the 1734 01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,880 Speaker 5: slightly younger man is twenty eight. He's won three in 1735 01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,000 Speaker 5: a row. He actually started training when he was twelve 1736 01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,640 Speaker 5: after his father passed away. Tremendous story. Who do you 1737 01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:01,360 Speaker 5: think of or just here in the among the one 1738 01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:02,759 Speaker 5: to fifty five vers kent flow. 1739 01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,280 Speaker 7: Well, hot Press will will entertain a brawl at times, 1740 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,200 Speaker 7: and I think that would be a very poor decision 1741 01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:11,280 Speaker 7: against someone like Ribovis, who who proved him more than 1742 01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,640 Speaker 7: proved himself in that last fight against zel Huber. And 1743 01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,080 Speaker 7: I have a hard time believing that of zell Huber, 1744 01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,760 Speaker 7: with all the strikes that he landed and as big 1745 01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,760 Speaker 7: as he is, if he couldn't finish Ribovis, I have 1746 01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,280 Speaker 7: a hard time believing that hot Parass is gonna be 1747 01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:25,040 Speaker 7: able to do that. 1748 01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:28,120 Speaker 6: So I'm on the side of Riboviks here. I think 1749 01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,280 Speaker 6: Hock Parross is a fun fighter to watch. 1750 01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,000 Speaker 7: I think this will be a very entertaining fight, but 1751 01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:35,760 Speaker 7: uh give me Ribovics all right. 1752 01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:39,200 Speaker 5: Somewhat surprising comin events slot here for this middleweight match 1753 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:42,200 Speaker 5: up the Cuban Missile Crisis. Julian Marquez Monus won fifty 1754 01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:47,760 Speaker 5: five cody brundage plus one thirty brundage winless spanning his 1755 01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:51,080 Speaker 5: last two brye submission, lost to bow nicol UFC three hundred. 1756 01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:54,080 Speaker 5: Then the no contest from the illegal elbow sustained against 1757 01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,080 Speaker 5: Abdul bra zach Al Hassen. On the other side, Marquez 1758 01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,280 Speaker 5: must see TV when he fights, but he hasn't won 1759 01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,479 Speaker 5: a fight since Sam Alvi four years ago. In twenty 1760 01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,840 Speaker 5: twenty one, he replaces Ryan Loder here this weekend. Any 1761 01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,320 Speaker 5: FEELVP on the comin Event. 1762 01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,040 Speaker 3: You know, I'm a nice guy. I try to beat 1763 01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:11,400 Speaker 3: you know, I'm team UFC. 1764 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,040 Speaker 8: I don't know what this is doing comin event. 1765 01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:15,800 Speaker 10: You know what I mean. 1766 01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:16,800 Speaker 6: I don't know what this is. 1767 01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,680 Speaker 3: I'm no disrespect to the fighters. But Julian Marquez has 1768 01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:21,439 Speaker 3: he's nine to five, hasn't want to fight since twenty 1769 01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,920 Speaker 3: twenty one, hasn't want to fight since he completely blew 1770 01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:26,479 Speaker 3: it with Miley Cyrus. By the way, if people remember 1771 01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,679 Speaker 3: those days. He does have a win over a current 1772 01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,439 Speaker 3: UFC fighter on the rosters on a three fight losing 1773 01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,720 Speaker 3: Street getting finished in all three, and then he got 1774 01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:37,840 Speaker 3: Brundage who isn't working progress, but sometimes he doesn't show up. 1775 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,800 Speaker 3: It's really weird. He's so frustrating the bed on. But 1776 01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,240 Speaker 3: he's training with Dustin Jacobe. He's got some power. He 1777 01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,599 Speaker 3: knocked out Treshan Gore. There's something there and I think Marquez, unfortunately, 1778 01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,640 Speaker 3: his chin might be gone. I think this might be 1779 01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,719 Speaker 3: his last hurrah in the UFC, and I like Brandage 1780 01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:53,960 Speaker 3: as a dog money here. I'll surprised this his dog money. 1781 01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,519 Speaker 3: I thought we'd get an even pick him because even 1782 01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,840 Speaker 3: even after the fact that that uh Julian Marquez is 1783 01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,240 Speaker 3: a little bit shot born, his wrestling's are all that 1784 01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,280 Speaker 3: great and Brenda does have some good wrestling when he 1785 01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:07,519 Speaker 3: wants to use it offensively. Decent striking or excuse me, 1786 01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,840 Speaker 3: decent submissions comes from a great camp training with the 1787 01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,240 Speaker 3: right people. Let's just see if he shows up. Give 1788 01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,280 Speaker 3: me the dog Brandage. I'm not running to the window, Johnny, Yeah, 1789 01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:17,680 Speaker 3: but gimme Brundage. 1790 01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:20,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, Kenny. Any fighter can get cut off a loss, right. 1791 01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:21,200 Speaker 5: There are a lot of things that go into which 1792 01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:23,840 Speaker 5: Arsenio rosenstrike I believe was just let go one and 1793 01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,960 Speaker 5: one over his last two. But not every day you 1794 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,519 Speaker 5: have a coll main event in which potentially both guys 1795 01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:31,680 Speaker 5: could lose their jobs with an l any thoughts for 1796 01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:33,960 Speaker 5: us on Marquez and Brundage can flow. 1797 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,400 Speaker 7: I think Marcus is really tough. You know, he's fallen 1798 01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:41,000 Speaker 7: on some bad luck. I think this is another tough 1799 01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,320 Speaker 7: fight for him. Cody Brundage, I. 1800 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,600 Speaker 6: Think he's got better skills than Julian Marquez overall, but 1801 01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:51,280 Speaker 6: how he shows up isn't always consistent, and there's there's 1802 01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:55,080 Speaker 6: Sometimes you see these inspired performances from Brundage and other 1803 01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:58,120 Speaker 6: times they're kind of listless. And I don't know, he 1804 01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:01,040 Speaker 6: needs this one just like Marquez needs it. And I 1805 01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,120 Speaker 6: think for Brundage, I like him in this underdog spot. 1806 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:06,840 Speaker 7: I especially like the fact that he could switch things 1807 01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:08,479 Speaker 7: up and maybe put Marquez on his back. 1808 01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,040 Speaker 6: So give me Brundage, all right. 1809 01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,120 Speaker 5: Right back to Ken Flow on the main event, a 1810 01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,639 Speaker 5: flyweight title eliminator between the number six rank contender Menel 1811 01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:21,040 Speaker 5: Cop and number eight as Sue Almabayev. Cop minus two 1812 01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:24,040 Speaker 5: thirty eight. Almabayev is plus one ninety five. A little 1813 01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:27,000 Speaker 5: background for you boys. Cop has won five of his 1814 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,400 Speaker 5: last six, the only loss in that span coming in 1815 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:34,120 Speaker 5: that sort of grudge match against Mohammed Mokayev. Last win 1816 01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:38,320 Speaker 5: for Menel Cop was just outstanding December fourteenth. The stoppage 1817 01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,400 Speaker 5: of Bruno Silva was spectacular, and now he could find 1818 01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,240 Speaker 5: himself Ken Flow at a title fight if he can 1819 01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,160 Speaker 5: finish at Sue Almabayev this weekend. 1820 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:47,519 Speaker 8: Lead us off on the main event, Please good sir. 1821 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,720 Speaker 7: Not too many flyweights that when they're on that night 1822 01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:54,280 Speaker 7: are going to look as good as menel Cop and 1823 01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,360 Speaker 7: are going to be as dangerous as menel Cop. He 1824 01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:58,800 Speaker 7: does certain things that it looks like it's straight out 1825 01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,639 Speaker 7: of the matrix. His head movement, his ability to counter, 1826 01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:05,080 Speaker 7: his ability to make reads, his versatility, the amount of 1827 01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,759 Speaker 7: weapons that he can throw at you, even his defense 1828 01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:09,840 Speaker 7: with his footwork and how he moves away from you. 1829 01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:14,960 Speaker 7: It's just all very pretty to watch. Almabayev is a 1830 01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,800 Speaker 7: very tough matchup for him, though, because not only is 1831 01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:21,400 Speaker 7: he a fast striker and a pressure style of fighter, 1832 01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:23,880 Speaker 7: but he also has the takedown game in his favor 1833 01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:25,840 Speaker 7: as well. So and I think this is a great 1834 01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:30,479 Speaker 7: preparatory fight for Cop if he does want to fight 1835 01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,320 Speaker 7: someone like Pantoja. I'm not saying Almabiev can put it 1836 01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:37,280 Speaker 7: all together like someone like Pantosa or is this He's 1837 01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:40,559 Speaker 7: not even close as far as submissions to Pantoja's submission threat, 1838 01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:45,479 Speaker 7: But it's a style that integrates good striking with good 1839 01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:49,240 Speaker 7: takedown ability. And I think no, now Copp, this is 1840 01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,360 Speaker 7: his time to prove that he is the dude. I 1841 01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,000 Speaker 7: think he is the dude. I think he is that dangerous. 1842 01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:57,320 Speaker 7: I think it would be all the more impressive he's 1843 01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,960 Speaker 7: if he's able to get a late round stop in 1844 01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:04,160 Speaker 7: this one. Uh, gimme Menel Cop. I think he's just 1845 01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,600 Speaker 7: way too dangerous for Alma Baia at this point. You know, 1846 01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:10,920 Speaker 7: Alma Baia hasn't had a ton of fights, so but 1847 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,120 Speaker 7: I do think he has a promising career ahead of him. 1848 01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,479 Speaker 7: But gimme Manel Cup and. 1849 01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,600 Speaker 5: That breakdown got me excited to go wheels up to 1850 01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:21,560 Speaker 5: Vegas here on Thursday. Alma Baia Broh the former M 1851 01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:23,760 Speaker 5: one Global Champion four and zero in the UFC. He's 1852 01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,840 Speaker 5: won seventeen straight overall. That's hard to do in mixed 1853 01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,880 Speaker 5: martial arts. Nine career wins by submission for the native 1854 01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:33,080 Speaker 5: of Kazakhstan certainly the lesser talked about party in this 1855 01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:33,599 Speaker 5: main event. 1856 01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:34,840 Speaker 8: How do you see it play an MVP? 1857 01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you guys got check the takes. I mean, 1858 01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,400 Speaker 3: you know, I've been on COP for a while. Bull 1859 01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,320 Speaker 3: the receieds boys and Anon and Florida listeners, pull the receieds. 1860 01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,040 Speaker 3: I think this dude's gonna fight for the title. I 1861 01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,960 Speaker 3: think this dude's gonna hold the title. Here's my big 1862 01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,720 Speaker 3: big gripe, right is when I watch him is when 1863 01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,960 Speaker 3: he fights grapplers who he's fighting this weekend. He shuts 1864 01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:57,559 Speaker 3: down the Pantosia fight with before Panto's become a champion. 1865 01:26:57,880 --> 01:26:58,400 Speaker 6: Shut down. 1866 01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:01,000 Speaker 3: He's afraid of the takedown Okaya fight. He got out 1867 01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,880 Speaker 3: struck by Mohammed Makaya because he's afraid to take that. 1868 01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:08,040 Speaker 3: Although his hips and his explosion and his takedown defense 1869 01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,760 Speaker 3: is really good. Not on top of that, it's really 1870 01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:12,519 Speaker 3: good to him getting up. You know, he got out 1871 01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:15,840 Speaker 3: from Makaya pretty well, even when Makaiah was grabbing his shorts, right, 1872 01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:18,920 Speaker 3: Like this dude needs to believe in himself way more 1873 01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,519 Speaker 3: than he does. I know he's a confident guy and 1874 01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,360 Speaker 3: uh and he's got powerful days, probably the best power 1875 01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,320 Speaker 3: at one twenty five. And I like him in this 1876 01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:30,120 Speaker 3: spot as well. But I'm a little concerned with Almabia's 1877 01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:33,360 Speaker 3: grappling here. But I can't be a wishy washy bitch. 1878 01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:34,880 Speaker 3: I gotta put my money where my mouth is, so 1879 01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:37,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go mal cop gotta be confident with it 1880 01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:38,920 Speaker 3: because I got to get off this snide here Bob, 1881 01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:42,240 Speaker 3: I am icy cold, but give me mi nel cop Starboard. 1882 01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:43,760 Speaker 3: By the way, has he ever came out to the 1883 01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:45,880 Speaker 3: Starboys song on the Weekend? Because if not, that's a 1884 01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:48,640 Speaker 3: giant miss because that's a rare song and that's a 1885 01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,160 Speaker 3: great nickname. He needs to come after that. 1886 01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:50,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1887 01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:52,559 Speaker 6: I love the Weekend. I love so good. 1888 01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,280 Speaker 5: All right, our final act today and thanks for everybody 1889 01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,280 Speaker 5: going ninety minutes strong here live on YouTube. About a Tuesday, 1890 01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,760 Speaker 5: it is time for Place your Bets presented by John 1891 01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:02,640 Speaker 5: Anna dot com, where you can support the show with 1892 01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:05,639 Speaker 5: our exclusive Anakin Florian podcast and one More Sleep apparel 1893 01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:08,360 Speaker 5: and merchandise. Use code one More Sleep for your discount. 1894 01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,920 Speaker 5: Also available at Kenny Florian dot com and joining us 1895 01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:15,080 Speaker 5: today representing well Which Southeast London. Kevin Scott, longtime listener. 1896 01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,400 Speaker 5: You're the program, Kay Scott. Good to see your brother. 1897 01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:21,240 Speaker 10: How we doing yoh, gentlemen, thank you so much. 1898 01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:21,599 Speaker 6: Man. 1899 01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:26,080 Speaker 11: This is incredible being just listen to the show for 1900 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,720 Speaker 11: so long and I get to sit with you know 1901 01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:35,000 Speaker 11: what I mean? Big gun ah done. You know gems 1902 01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:39,880 Speaker 11: every week man. Then you've got the go Ken flow 1903 01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,760 Speaker 11: right the UFC throat Anak himself. 1904 01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:45,640 Speaker 8: This is incredible. 1905 01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:47,040 Speaker 10: This is incredible. 1906 01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:49,479 Speaker 8: Well, we appreciate you. 1907 01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,800 Speaker 5: So what are your betting habits like and what are 1908 01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:55,439 Speaker 5: your MMA and UFC watching habits like? 1909 01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:01,439 Speaker 10: Oh man, well, betting wise, I'm not very good at 1910 01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:08,600 Speaker 10: ben so I'm more like, I like predicting, you know 1911 01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:08,920 Speaker 10: what I mean. 1912 01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:12,320 Speaker 11: So I'll throw because I used to do my own 1913 01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:16,680 Speaker 11: like MMA podcast chin check and I used to I 1914 01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,240 Speaker 11: used to throw out my predictions phote. 1915 01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,720 Speaker 10: But yeah, I mean, I was just like, I don't 1916 01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:24,519 Speaker 10: know if I'm putting it. 1917 01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:27,320 Speaker 8: Kenny and I. 1918 01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:29,800 Speaker 5: That's a good name, chin Check. I think Kenny and 1919 01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:31,880 Speaker 5: I should have named this like the Club and Sub 1920 01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:36,000 Speaker 5: podcast or something podcast. It's just okay, all right. So 1921 01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:39,439 Speaker 5: this exercise essentially gives you one thousand dollars to spread 1922 01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:42,720 Speaker 5: across this fight card however you want. And before I 1923 01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:44,880 Speaker 5: do that, I just have to ask you in Southeast London, 1924 01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,760 Speaker 5: are you staying up and watching all of these fight 1925 01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,080 Speaker 5: cards live in the middle of the night. 1926 01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:50,640 Speaker 8: Do you watch them the next day? What is your 1927 01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:52,120 Speaker 8: viewing experience like? 1928 01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,960 Speaker 11: Oh man, yeah, I watched a lot of them live, 1929 01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,160 Speaker 11: you know what I mean, Because I'm a bit of 1930 01:29:59,200 --> 01:29:59,840 Speaker 11: a night house. 1931 01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,439 Speaker 6: So yeah, three a m for a main card. 1932 01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:03,439 Speaker 10: That's like whatever. 1933 01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:08,519 Speaker 11: You know, Yeah, sometimes it depends, right because if it's 1934 01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:15,559 Speaker 11: a date night, right, no, I'm gonna I'm gonna watch fights, 1935 01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:18,479 Speaker 11: so you know, then then it's watching the next day. 1936 01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,200 Speaker 10: But yeah, I try and watch as much live as 1937 01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:21,599 Speaker 10: I can. 1938 01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,720 Speaker 6: You know, well, we appreciate your service. At three a m. 1939 01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:28,120 Speaker 5: And everyone in the Great Nation of England and across 1940 01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:31,840 Speaker 5: the United Kingdom. All right, keV so UFC fight Night 1941 01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,160 Speaker 5: Cop versus Alma BIB. We're giving you a thousand bucks. 1942 01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:35,120 Speaker 5: Who do you like this weekend? 1943 01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:36,960 Speaker 2: Man? 1944 01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:41,600 Speaker 10: Like, there are some incredible fights on this card, and 1945 01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:44,240 Speaker 10: like to do the research. 1946 01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:48,720 Speaker 11: Was mad fun because you get to check out a 1947 01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:53,120 Speaker 11: lot of you know, past fights that you, for whatever reason, 1948 01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:55,080 Speaker 11: haven't had a chance to go back to, you know 1949 01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:55,400 Speaker 11: what I mean. 1950 01:30:55,640 --> 01:31:00,960 Speaker 10: So that was that was so much fun. It's tricky 1951 01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:01,360 Speaker 10: as well. 1952 01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:06,360 Speaker 11: There's some tricky fights to pick r because you know, 1953 01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:11,479 Speaker 11: when we got hard Hider a Meal against William Gomis, right, 1954 01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:19,200 Speaker 11: both are very talented. Hyder throws those combinations that relentless 1955 01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:26,439 Speaker 11: pressure coming forward, but then Gomis has that you know, 1956 01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:31,920 Speaker 11: I mean takedown and sub element and it's just like, oh, 1957 01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:36,080 Speaker 11: because you know, I think Brian said, you know, he 1958 01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:41,519 Speaker 11: slows down a fight, slows down a fight, so it's 1959 01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:45,840 Speaker 11: kind of like, will Hyder be able to keep that 1960 01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:49,439 Speaker 11: pressure or will Gomis be able to slow it down 1961 01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:54,599 Speaker 11: and take him down? Because even in Hyder's last fight, 1962 01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:58,439 Speaker 11: he was getting touched and Gomes has a great jab. 1963 01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:03,160 Speaker 10: So I was going back and forth, but I'm dropping 1964 01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:06,360 Speaker 10: a hundred on Gomes. 1965 01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:09,000 Speaker 5: All right, one hundred on Gomes? All right, you got 1966 01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:11,519 Speaker 5: nine hundred dollars left, my man, Let's rifle through some 1967 01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:11,920 Speaker 5: of these. 1968 01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:13,599 Speaker 6: Who else you like? Okay? 1969 01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:17,719 Speaker 11: Danny Barlow, I'm going a hundred because Sam Patterson keeps 1970 01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:18,960 Speaker 11: that chin high. 1971 01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:22,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, so you like Daddy Barlow? Anybody else? 1972 01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:31,160 Speaker 11: Charles Johnson one hundred okay, Chippy Macca, Chippy Mariscal. I'm 1973 01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:37,320 Speaker 11: going too large, too large, Okay, I am going I'm 1974 01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:47,600 Speaker 11: fifty on Mario Pinto. Okay, I'm doing Esteban riebebitch, two hundred. 1975 01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:51,080 Speaker 8: Two hundred on El greenco. 1976 01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:55,439 Speaker 11: Now, this one, it wasn't there, but I kind of 1977 01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:59,680 Speaker 11: feel Luana Carolina yep, I like, you know what I mean, 1978 01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:02,200 Speaker 11: She's been putting a little search together. So I'm going 1979 01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:07,640 Speaker 11: fifty on Carolina okay, and then I mean listening to 1980 01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:13,519 Speaker 11: the breakdowns on the main event. Ah, but I'm doing 1981 01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:20,960 Speaker 11: two hundred on Alabiev Wow, because right, I. 1982 01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:23,160 Speaker 10: Just I think he's hard to hit. 1983 01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:27,120 Speaker 11: He's got an active top game, right, He's really good 1984 01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:31,360 Speaker 11: in the scramble, and I think Cap when Cap is 1985 01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:38,040 Speaker 11: on like that last fight, he is, but sometimes he's 1986 01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:42,960 Speaker 11: taking too many photos, right, So I'm feeling. 1987 01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:47,840 Speaker 10: I'm feeling that could be. 1988 01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:50,120 Speaker 6: That's a nice handicap. 1989 01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:53,280 Speaker 5: So two hundred fifty bucks on the water Caroline, a 1990 01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,719 Speaker 5: hundred bucks on William almost hundred bucks on Danny Borlow, 1991 01:33:55,760 --> 01:34:00,240 Speaker 5: one hundred bucks on excuse me, two hundred on a 1992 01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:03,040 Speaker 5: Moda Skall, one hundred on Charles Johnson, fifty on Mario Pinto, 1993 01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:06,880 Speaker 5: and two hundred on Esteban Ribevis. Ken Flow had a 1994 01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:11,800 Speaker 5: thousand bucks on Anthony Fluffy Hernandez last week. You've been dominating. 1995 01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:14,320 Speaker 5: You'll enjoy when we update the standings, even if it's 1996 01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:16,519 Speaker 5: not until March. Who do you have for us this weekend? 1997 01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:17,840 Speaker 5: Ken Fully, you got one k to spend. 1998 01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,160 Speaker 6: Am I gonna do this again? Am I gonna just 1999 01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:22,479 Speaker 6: take one thousand dollars and put it on one guy? 2000 01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:22,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2001 01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,320 Speaker 6: I am. I'll put it on Ribovis. I'm putting a 2002 01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:26,280 Speaker 6: thousand dollars in Ri. 2003 01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:29,560 Speaker 7: I like this fight, perhaps not as strongly as I 2004 01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,240 Speaker 7: did Anthony Fluffy, Yeah, Hernandez, but I think this is 2005 01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:33,280 Speaker 7: a good matchup for him. 2006 01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:36,040 Speaker 5: And I promise we won't tell Farasa Hobby about that. 2007 01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,679 Speaker 5: All right, Brian Pechri, you will have the final word. 2008 01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:41,200 Speaker 3: Thousand bucks kid, Yeah, listen, I don't think it's a 2009 01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:43,719 Speaker 3: coincidence that I'm now in forty seven hundred. Kenny Florin's 2010 01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:47,400 Speaker 3: got a mustache, Okaykevint painted the board. I'm going a 2011 01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,400 Speaker 3: thousand on Chepe the machine gun. 2012 01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:51,439 Speaker 6: Baby, Listen. 2013 01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,080 Speaker 3: It's only a couple hundred dollars win, but I need it. 2014 01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:56,639 Speaker 3: I need to trim this bucket. I'd put ten thousand 2015 01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:58,080 Speaker 3: dollars in my good John, you want to let me 2016 01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:00,600 Speaker 3: do ten thousand, I'll do ten thousand. We'll give you 2017 01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:01,679 Speaker 3: to a thousand. Boys. 2018 01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:02,559 Speaker 2: I need to win. 2019 01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:05,599 Speaker 8: I need some dubs right just chasing that green stripe. 2020 01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:06,680 Speaker 8: I get it, all right. 2021 01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:09,120 Speaker 5: Kevin Scott, we appreciate you, brother, thank you so much 2022 01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:11,559 Speaker 5: for supporting the program. Great job, and uh we'll see 2023 01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:13,120 Speaker 5: how you do next week. If you're in the black, 2024 01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:14,600 Speaker 5: you go on a stack of people that might be 2025 01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:16,439 Speaker 5: invited back. So we appreciate you. 2026 01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:17,120 Speaker 8: Sir very much. 2027 01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:22,679 Speaker 5: Gentlemen, have a leasure you too, My brother and Brian Petri. 2028 01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:25,400 Speaker 5: You can check him out further on the MMA Takes podcast. 2029 01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:28,600 Speaker 5: Of course, later this week, we got to get on 2030 01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:30,719 Speaker 5: out of here. Thanks to everybody for joining us live. 2031 01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:33,479 Speaker 5: We will be back with a recap next week. I 2032 01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:35,880 Speaker 5: will be live in Las Vegas and then we will 2033 01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:38,600 Speaker 5: spin it forward for UFC three thirteen. Might even have 2034 01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:42,559 Speaker 5: some live Sunday content for you after UFC three thirteen 2035 01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:45,280 Speaker 5: shortly after the pay per view as well. Thank you 2036 01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:47,639 Speaker 5: to our producer Cody Merrow. Thanks to Longo and Petrie 2037 01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:49,800 Speaker 5: and Kevin Scott for Ken Flulm John Aik. We will 2038 01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:52,120 Speaker 5: talk to you in less than a week. Until then, 2039 01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:52,920 Speaker 5: you'll later 2040 01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:03,240 Speaker 6: Based on red ps by