1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet and welcome to the Nodunks Podcast, presented 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: by Fan Duel. It's Friday, July tenth, twenty twenty six. 3 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm j Skis here in the Classic Factory and alongside me. 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: As always tass Mellus podcast listeners, this is for you. 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: Next to him, it's my top Shott Booy, trick Herby 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: AO and Overyonder making the magic happen. Super producer jd Hella. 7 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: There he is here. We are Hello to everybody on YouTube. 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: Hit the like button, subscribe podcast listeners, five star ratings 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: and reviews. On today's drop, We've got Kawhi Trade chaos 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: to unpack. Oh boy, we'll get into that. We got 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: the up down report and we're talking movie sequels a 12 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: when we get to Rapid Fire as we wrap up 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: the week with Rapid Fire fun. But first we're gonna 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: start with Vegas Summer League. Because the top two players 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: in the twenty six NBA draft squared off on Day 16 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: one of Vegas Summer League. Number one pick aj Debonsa 17 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: led all players twenty seven points seven boards in twenty 18 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: six minutes to power the Wizards to the ninety two 19 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: eighty eight win. Why did I tell you the score 20 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: of a Summer League game. Nobody cares who wins or loses. 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: Paying number two pick Darren Peterson finished with twenty four. 22 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: But I do want your thoughts on this battle of 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: the top two seats. 24 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: Hey, it went down to the wire. It doesn't, No, 25 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: of course it does not. But there was a battle 26 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: between the two of them with minute twenty two seconds 27 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: left when Debonsa pulled Peterson's arm and Peterson kind of 28 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: got mad. That's true, But then Debonsa big enough to 29 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: go to the bench and not play the rest of 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 2: the game in a Summer League game. He literally got 31 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: pulled in the player. Yeah, he had a cramp. 32 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was rubbing his legs and his leg hurt. 33 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh that was I don't think it was by choice. 34 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: No, that's why he fouled Peterson so he could go 35 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: to the bench and rub. 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: That's why they called it one. Yeah, yeah, he said 37 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: he was cool with it. I will say, though, I'm 38 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: totally fine with my pre draft prediction saying that Peterson 39 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: should have gone one even though he played poorly. Still 40 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: sticking with that because yeah, Debounsa still scored. But I 41 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: will say his strength, his speed looked really really good 42 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: going by Orlando Robinson. Yeah, he's going by a super 43 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: slow guy plenty of times getting to the rim, that 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: beautiful don. But he's not as smooth as my Peterson. 45 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: He was two of thirteen thirteen. 46 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing that on a Trey Kirby 47 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: kra today as smooth as Yeah. 48 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: And I say that because he was two of thirteen. 49 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: Outside the paint, Debonsa just he's not as smooth going 50 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: through his shots. Well, I thought, Utah, Yeah, they're giving 51 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: Peterson the ball to start every possession, which was really weird. 52 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 2: The Wizard's playing great defense to get out on him 53 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 2: to pressure him. Watkins was really good, but he's not 54 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 2: the point guard. He was playing without a point guard. Essentially, 55 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: he was the whole guy, the whole team, and he 56 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: just did not overall play as well. He had eight 57 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: turnovers because he was playing the point guard. But then 58 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: he started to get it going. So in this game, yeah, 59 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: de Bonsa looked better and it was just it was 60 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: just odd to see the way they played Peterson like 61 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: he was kind of bringing up, bringing forward what he 62 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: did in the Utah Summer League and being the guy 63 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: and the only guy, and he's not going to do 64 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: that when he gets to actual play that either way, 65 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: A fun one that went down to the way I. 66 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: Mean, both guys not shy, no by any stretch of 67 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: the imagination. DEBONSA seven of eighteen shots that he hit, 68 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: missed all five of his threes, got to the line 69 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: a ton, and we got this new just one free 70 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: throw thing too to count for two. Finished with two 71 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: assists and two steals. Peterson six of eighteen for the game, 72 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: missed five to seven from deep, eight turnovers. Like you said, 73 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 1: I also think he had nine personal fouls summer league maybee. Yes, yeah, 74 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: a lot of stuffs. What do you think, TK, What 75 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: was your reaction watching this game or the highlights? They're 76 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: both going to be very good, yeah, I think. 77 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: And look, when you're comparing their performances last night, the 78 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: Jazz are so far ahead of the Wizards from like 79 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: a rebuild standpoint that their summer league team is worse. Meanwhile, 80 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: you've got Trey Johnson and Will Riley playing really well 81 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: for the Wizard, so AJ didn't have to do it all. 82 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: But man, this guy looks like he is going to 83 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 3: be a scorer instantly in the league. He looks so fluid. 84 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 3: It looked like he was getting downhill anytime he wanted to. 85 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 3: You say, two for thirteen away from the rim. That 86 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 3: means he went five for five at the rim, and 87 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: he was getting to the rim. He was drawing files. 88 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: He's already got the grifting gene activated. In his very 89 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: first NBA experience, he took a lot of midies, He 90 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: took a lot of free throws. I did think it 91 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 3: was pretty interesting to see how often he was initiating 92 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: the offense for the Wizards, because they did just give 93 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: Trey a Young two hundred million dollars. So he's going 94 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 3: to be handling the ball a ton, and it looks 95 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 3: like Debonsa is definitely capable of it. But I really 96 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: liked what I saw from him. He looks like a man, 97 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 3: and I would say Darren Peterson looks like a man 98 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: as well. He's got great size as a guard. He 99 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: from watching this one game, you know, he looks more 100 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: like a two to me than a one. He was 101 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: creating space, he was just bricking away. His two three 102 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: point makes were both kind of lucky, like one was 103 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 3: a grenade I think at the end of the first half, 104 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: and the last one was like a thirty seven footer 105 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: they just chucked up at the buzzer. So he didn't 106 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: play very great, But like I said, he's got hardly 107 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: any team around him, especially compared to a Wizard's team 108 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 3: that's sending, you know, a bunch of first rounders out there. 109 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 3: So I thought fun to see both of these guys 110 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 3: going at each other, and pretty funny that de Banza 111 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: had to leave the game for a cramp when that 112 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 3: was the problem with Darren Peterson all year at Kansas. 113 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: These guys need to drink more water. At one point 114 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: late in the second quarter too, it was a fun 115 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: moment in this game. Peterson got switched on to Debantsa 116 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: and the crowd started to like cheer and that hype 117 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: build in the in the building, the Thomas and Max 118 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: Center there, and they sort of went at it one 119 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: on one. I think de Buonca sort of drove and 120 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: he spun back. He gote a look, he created some separation, 121 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: but he missed that shot. But I always love when 122 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: that happens when they're you know that the swelling in 123 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: the crowd as they get excited for these two guys. 124 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: And this is the fourth time over the last what 125 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: two and a half years that these two guys had 126 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: matched up or their teams had matched up and played 127 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: against each other. In every outing, Peterson had the better 128 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: game to Debonsa until this one. I think we could 129 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: say that he definitely had the better one last. 130 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was motivated from the get go. While 131 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 2: it felt like Debansa, it just was a little excuse me, 132 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: Peterson was a little slow fixed his hair after will 133 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: Riley beat him on a fast break in a minute 134 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: into this game. He wasn't locked in after coming from 135 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: the Utah Summer League, if that has anything to do 136 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 2: with it. He played multiple games while de Bonsa hadn't 137 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: played a game in four months. As he said post 138 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: post game in his interview, I haven't played in a 139 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: long time. 140 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: Man, March tenth. I got bounced in the first round. 141 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: That was very funny. Yeah, he looks good. 142 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: Rest versus Rust in summer crap. 143 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, the rust worked out. He looked awesome. 144 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: He was playing a lot through contact, and I thought 145 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: that was part of the problem for Peterson is that 146 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: the Wizards came out and said, you got Jamir Walkins 147 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 3: on you, and Jamiyir Walkin is going to value up 148 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: and down the court as much as he can, forcing 149 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: Peterson to play through physicality as well. And it's just 150 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: going to be something that both of these guys have 151 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: to learn. And I thought Debonza was a little better 152 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 3: about it last night. 153 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: He was was huge. He's huge. 154 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: He's a huge I mean a guy that can handle 155 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: the ball like that. 156 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I really he also needs to he needs 157 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: to get better with his handle, and he will. Why 158 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't he because he likes to do He's a big 159 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: chicken wing guy. When he's like dribbling, he likes to 160 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: put out the other arm, maybe because he lacks a 161 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: little confidence in his dribble being that size. But he'll 162 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: get better. Yeah, both these guys are They look like 163 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: they're going to be star players in this league. A 164 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: bunch of Wizards sitting courtside. Yeah to Trey Young, Mayor, 165 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, DeAndre Ayton, he's on the Wizards. Alexar bub Carrington, 166 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: Keishan George to watch the number one pick and some 167 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: of these other guys, Will Riley playing in this game 168 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: and so on. 169 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, more teams are getting there more and more over 170 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: the last few years, Like the Pelicans are practicing tires. Yeah, 171 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: so that's that's cool. 172 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: Okay. Any other thoughts on those two top two picks 173 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: going at it? 174 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: Not about the top two picks, but I think that 175 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: had to be an encouraging night for the Wizards. I 176 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: think they had all of their roster players show up 177 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 3: for the game last night. So, you know, Anthony Davis 178 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 3: is a question mark. Will he be on the team? 179 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: He was there. Did he look thrilled to be there? 180 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: I don't know if you would say that, but he 181 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: was there. That's good. And then I thought Trey Johnson 182 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: and Will Riley were the two best players on the court. Yeah, 183 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: which is what you want from the guys who were 184 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: in year two. They were dominating out there. Twenty six 185 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: for Trey Johnson, a bunch of tough shots. Will Riley 186 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 3: had eighteen basically took over late to win the game 187 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 3: for the Wizards. So a great night for Washington. 188 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. You want if you're the Washington Wizards or you're 189 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: a fan of the Wizards, you want debonsa Trey Johnson 190 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: Will Riley to play, you know, two more games and 191 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: look like they belong and look especially in the guys 192 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: who are playing in their second year. And then you 193 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: shut it down early, you give other guys opportunity, you 194 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: don't risk injury and all that, and that's probably where 195 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: they're headed here, and that always happens at Summer League, 196 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: especially guys second third year guys. You're like, okay, you 197 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: are much much better. That makes sense, right, So goodwin. 198 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: They get it done in the end. I want to 199 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: ask you, guys, other players to watch here in Summer League. 200 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: Either went out it last night and played, or you're 201 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: looking forward to for the rest of the Summer League. 202 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: You can get a started te kt. 203 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: We got a good matchup in Kings versus Clippers last night, 204 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 3: Darius Acuff versus Keaton Woggler and a Cuff completely outplayed 205 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: Woggler in this one. Nineteen points on a whopping six 206 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: of twenty field goal attempts for Darius. Acuff also added 207 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 3: seven assists. He looked like he knows how to play instantly, 208 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: and it looked like a learning experience for Keaton Woggler, 209 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 3: who went for seven points on just one of seven 210 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 3: field goals and one assist. To me, he was really 211 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: struggling to get any separation. He's not a super athlete. 212 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: He is a field player. He's not even a guy 213 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: that has like crazy handles or an amazing amount of skill. 214 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: But he's a right play machine, and that can look bad. 215 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 3: I think sometimes in summer League where it's like, okay, 216 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 3: I can't get open, fine, I'll just go over, I'll 217 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: go somewhere else. That's probably the right play, but it's 218 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: not exciting to watch it at all, or like, Okay, 219 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: a double team's coming to me, I'll pass it and 220 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: everybody else is playing offense. That means you did nothing 221 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: on the possession, even it's the right thing to do. 222 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: So he's gonna have a big I think he's gonna 223 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: have a big, growing pains kind of season this year. 224 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: He was an unheralded recruit, came out of nowhere to 225 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 3: be a top five pick, and like I said, profile wise, 226 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 3: he doesn't necessarily look like a dominant type out there. 227 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 3: He's gonna have to figure out how his feel and 228 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 3: the way he plays the game translates to the NBA. 229 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: Whereas a guy like Acuf just goes out and he's like, 230 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 3: I'm quick. There's not guys out here that can really 231 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 3: guard me. He didn't shoot well, but he got twenty 232 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 3: shots up. That's impressive. We get up that many field 233 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: goal attempts compared to seven her Woggler. 234 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: I'll say the Sixers have a guy who's ready to 235 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: play in LeBaron Phylon. That guy handles, shoots, and talks trash. 236 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: That's some real league. So he gets ready to shoot, 237 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 2: he's ready to pass. It's an interesting dynamic there with 238 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: edgecumb In Maxi and now Jalen Brown for this guy 239 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 2: who can come off the bench and handle and be 240 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: an offense for a lot of it. He can literally 241 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: he can score, m pass and do everything out there. 242 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: So I liked watching him just as a first game again, 243 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: talking trash, that was fun. 244 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: He has the ball on a string. His handle is 245 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: very very tight. Eighteen point seven assists in the Sixers victory. 246 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: He started on fire too. I think he had eleven 247 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: very early and he was hitting a bunch of threes. 248 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: Cooled off, finished four to ten from distance. But yeah, 249 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: look like they have a player could be one of 250 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: these guys that looks like a steal at least very early. 251 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: Here from the draft what he slipped at twenty two so. 252 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: Where he went it was low. 253 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he's a funny double zero guy. Though maybe 254 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: it's the Summer League jerseys. The double zero looks weird 255 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: to me. 256 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: It looks weird on guards period. 257 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, just so strange. 258 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 3: But he's got the head band, he had a well, 259 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,599 Speaker 3: he had a headband for like half the game and 260 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: he took it off. He had a T shirt. I 261 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 3: was like, new Jordan Clarkson just dropped. 262 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe h We got the Bulls playing the Grizzlies 263 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: today in Vegas. I think this is a fun game 264 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: to watch. Cam Boozer going up against Caleb Wilson. Talk 265 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: about a guy in Caleb Wilson who hasn't played in 266 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: a long time because he had the hand injury at 267 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: the end of the regular season in college there, so 268 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be his first organized game 269 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: in five months. They've had good matchups him, Boozer and 270 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: Wilson going back to North Carolina and Duke, so that'd 271 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: be a good one that I'm excited for a couple 272 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: other guys. Another great game for Yaxel Lendenborg. I mean, 273 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: he just fills up the box score. He's older, so 274 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: he should be good out there. But twenty one points, 275 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: ten boards, six assists in twenty eight minutes. He scored 276 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: the final nine points for the Warriors. He looks immediately 277 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: like a rotation guy in the NBA. Especially, Why wouldn't 278 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: this guy be able to play on the Warriors. It's 279 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: currently constructed so good, yeah, exactly, and he looks it 280 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: he's got a complete game. Yeah, very good. And then 281 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: my only other name too. I mean, there's tons of 282 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: names to watch, but Lakers guard Cameron Carr looked really 283 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: good in the California Classic, like this other sort of 284 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: minor summer league showcase. A lot of athleticism, good shooting. 285 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: You know, he was a first round pick, so we'll 286 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: see how it translates here in Vegas. Any other names. 287 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 3: Marez Johnson probably played Lendeborg last night twenty seven eight, three, 288 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 3: three and two blocks for Marez Johnson, he just looks 289 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 3: like he's going to be an elite garbage man going forward. 290 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 3: Knows how to play and knows what his role is 291 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 3: going to be for a MAVs team that will ultimately 292 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: be built around Cooper Flag and what he brings to 293 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 3: the team. And if you can fill around that, be 294 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: a defensive player, finish inside, you could stick on the 295 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: Mavericks for a long time. I think in task you 296 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 3: had to be happy. Kobe Buffkin thirty points on eight 297 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: of sixteen shooting. 298 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: He's the leading scorer. 299 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 3: I think he's not even twenty three years oldly yet. 300 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: And not even signed to a contract. Who wants him? 301 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: He's on the Pelicans summer League roster. 302 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: Right yeah, but he does not have a guaranteed deal. 303 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: They've got fourteen guaranteed deals plus a two way player, 304 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: so he's available. He splashed two four or four point 305 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 2: opportunities in the first quarter. I mean, that guy can score. 306 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: He had twenty one in the first half, thirty overall. 307 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: He can score. Somebody's got to pick this guy up. 308 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: I don't know who it's going to be. I doubt 309 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: it's going to be the Pelicans. But see him go 310 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: against Joan Baron Jay on the other side. He tried 311 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 2: to dunk on Baron Jay, which was awesome. Baron Jay 312 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: blocked him. Baron Jay is going to play. I could 313 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: definitely be swayed watching one Summer League game for sure, 314 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: as I was last year in his first Summer League 315 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: game as a kid when he's eighteen, he had six 316 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: blocks right off the bat. But this year, now that 317 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: they've traded nas Reed away, for the Minnesota Timberwls. This 318 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: guy's going to play, as simple as that. He's nineteen, 319 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: but I think he is far better at making decisions 320 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: on defense. He's better at just knowing where he's going 321 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: to be. So it's about the defensive end, and he 322 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: looks better he's going to play. We know that another 323 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: guy's playing backup center, cal Mary Boyles. I know he's 324 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: going into second year and he did incredibly well in 325 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: that playoff run for the Toronto Raptors. But they're trying 326 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: to make him more of a player. They're putting a 327 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: lot on his shoulders to not only be a backup center, 328 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: but to be a ball handler. As our man Grange reported, 329 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: that's what he's doing out there, to be a pick 330 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: and roll ball handler as a backup center. And he's 331 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: going to jump. They've already said, you're jumping from twenty 332 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: two minutes per game last year to thirty this year. 333 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: And I could I buy that because they need a 334 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: backup center. He is that guy and he'll finish games. 335 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: And I made that joke a couple of weeks ago 336 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: that maybe that Orlando Robinson, that old guy could be useful. 337 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: He's just way too slow as we saw in that 338 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: game with debatsa destroying him just going by him. So 339 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: they don't need a third string point guard. They are center. 340 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: I should say they've got Colin Murray Boyles. We'll see him. 341 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: I want to watch him as a as a guy 342 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: who's developed a little bit. 343 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: We also learned that the NBA told jazzguard Kiante George 344 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: that he will not be able to coach during any 345 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: of these summer league games. According to the Desert News, 346 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: George is not the first active NBA player who has 347 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: wanted to join the coaching ranks, like in a voluntary rule, 348 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: but the league wanted to keep the rules consistent across 349 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: the board, so they they shot this down. From what 350 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: I could tell, the league office did tell the Jazz 351 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: five or six days ago that he could join them 352 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: as a coach for like one game, and then they 353 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: reviewed the situation and you know, I guess relied on 354 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: precedent and they're like, uh no, you can't, to which 355 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people are like, what the hell, come on? 356 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: We had Richard Jefferson as an NBA official in a 357 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: summer league game. Once George can't be over there calling 358 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: up a player two but any thoughts on this? 359 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess the league is going back 360 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: on their word a lot right now. 361 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, they are. 362 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: It fits in with the recent news. But they should 363 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: have just given Keyante Georgia polo and sent him out 364 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: there to coach, and then had the league say no, 365 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: you can't do that. 366 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, just don't ask. Don't ask. 367 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you don't got to ask for permission, ask 368 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: for forgiveness. If they say, hey, that guy can't coach, 369 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: just go out there, okay. God. 370 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 371 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: They like to bend rules, and in this instance, this 372 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: guy who's already a part of their coaching staff. If 373 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: you read that Desert News article, he's already been out 374 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: there calling plays and practices. So number one, why isn't 375 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: he playing? Has he heard? Why isn't he part of 376 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: those practices and running the teams? I guess because he's 377 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: not part of the summer League team. But he should 378 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: have been a point guard out there with Darren Peterson 379 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 2: because they didn't have a point guard. That looked very stupid. Yeah, 380 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: this whole thing is weird. 381 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: But he's Yeah, but he's around, Like you said, he's 382 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: been around these. 383 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: Young apparently as a coach. 384 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, which is why give him an opportunity here? 385 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: Imagine he was like, imagine they gave him this chance, 386 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: and he's like, oh my god, I'm so good at this. 387 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: I'm leaving the NBA. I'm going right into the coach. 388 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: I want a story. We give a movie out of that. 389 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: But no, the NBA says, no, I can't do that. 390 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: Then we allow you to do it, and everybody's gonna 391 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: want to do it, so good. 392 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 3: Cool, that'd be awesome. Yeah, Summer league guys, nobody, how 393 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 3: dare we have our current players teaching our younger players 394 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 3: how to play basketball? Yeah? A bummer. Yes, I mean 395 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 3: it's not like I was going to be like, oh Man, County, 396 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: George's turn it on. 397 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: But you're a little intriguement. Yeah, sure, I. 398 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 3: Don't know who coached the Jazz summ League team. 399 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: Like right right, Yeah, it definitely wasn't well. 400 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: Assistance usually Yeah, yeah. 401 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought I knew for a second. 402 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 3: But did you guys see the guy on the Clippers 403 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: Nick Apple Juice Martinelli jumps on his free throws. 404 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: I saw this in doors. Burke was very shocked. Yes, 405 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: slow mo, well this guy, I mean, legit jumps, get 406 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: apple juice. It's a tiny jumper at the free throw. 407 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 3: That was pretty crazy. 408 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: We had Aggie. We had a weggie yesterday too. Final 409 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: three point exactly, very long. Okay, let's get into the 410 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: big news from yesterday. The Clippers Raptors trade centered around 411 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard will not be completed until the NBA investigation 412 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: into whether the Clippers circumvented the salary cap is completed. 413 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: A bunch of statements were released from both sides. The 414 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: Raptors said in their statement Thursday that though they are 415 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: eager to add Kawhi to their roster, they will quote 416 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: wait until the league's investigation is complete before finalizing the deal. Uh, 417 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: where do you want to start with this? There's sort 418 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: of is oddly a lot to unpack with this. Where 419 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: does your mind go instantly? 420 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: Why is this announcement happening nine days after the trade happened. 421 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 2: It's either because the NBA is thinking, Okay, we'll say 422 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 2: this right here, right now, and it just shows we 423 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: are trying to investigate the Clippers. Do you see We're 424 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: trying something here, although I think it would just result 425 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: in them not doing a thing. It's either that or 426 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: it took them this long to figure it out because 427 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: they're just doing the investigation now, and maybe the punch 428 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: and maybe the punishment is actually going to be something. 429 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: But I definitely lean to the former and they're just 430 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 2: saying something just to say something. But I don't know 431 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 2: why it's nine days later to go from Adam Silver 432 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: a month ago saying, oh, we're almost at the end 433 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: of this investigation and seemingly it's going to end up 434 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: happening at the beginning of June to this now after 435 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 2: nine days. It doesn't make sense. I think it's just 436 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 2: the NBA just deciding, oh, we'll put out this memo 437 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: just a kind of show that we're doing some sort 438 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 2: of investigation as to if the Clippers did anything at all. Okay, 439 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: just weird. I know, it's weird. 440 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: The whole thing is absolutely weird, downright embarrassing for Silver 441 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: in the league that it's even gotten to this point. 442 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: Of course, this is what ten eleven months now, I mean, 443 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: after Pablo broke the news. It's officially the second season 444 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: that we're talking about. Yes, yeah, so depending on the 445 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: outcome of the league's investigation, this is a real thing 446 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: at all. Kawhi's contract could potentially be voided or altered 447 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: in some way. So had the Raptors finalized the acquisition 448 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: of Kawhi before the situation was settled, they would have 449 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: been taking on the risk of losing him like again, suspensions, whatever. 450 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: So the League was basically saying to the Raptors here yesterday, hey, 451 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: before you sign, did you read the fine print on 452 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: all this, because it's a bit of a buyer's beware here. 453 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: We have decided now, the reporting says, and I believe this, 454 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: when they were talking about this trade back in late June, 455 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: I assume they went to the League office prior to 456 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: agreeing in principle to the trade, like, hey, are we 457 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: cool to do this? Like, you know, I know this 458 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: investigation is going on, but if us the Raptors want 459 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: to trade for Kawhi, and they were like yeah, and 460 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: then they've switched it up here at the last second. 461 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: It sounds like and so the Raptors, I think wisely, 462 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: are saying, okay, well, we can't sign on the dotted line. 463 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 1: If you're saying, suddenly we in taking on Kawhi if 464 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: he is to be suspended, then then we're getting screwed again. 465 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: Sure, right, But according to some reporting, Michael Granger's reporting, 466 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: if that contract is voided, then the trade is entirely canceled. 467 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 2: They get Ingram Dick and the picks back, and Kawhi 468 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: Leonards a free agent, so they technically could sign it. 469 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 4: Well. 470 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: So that's interesting because you could say, when they were 471 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: telling the Raptors again, like if you do this, you 472 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: take on responsibility for whatever. Yeah, the investigation falls on Kawha's. 473 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 2: So I write, I read that, and I say, why 474 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: can't the Clippers assume every single penalization? Why not? I 475 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: mean the four things that the Clipper the Raptors could 476 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 2: get hit with now it's a seven point five million 477 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 2: dollars fine, the forfeiture of draft picks, suspension of team personnel, 478 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: and potentially voiding a player contract. Those are the things 479 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: that are in the CBA if you circumvent the salary cap. 480 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, but but I interpret that as like, why 481 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: can't a lot of those would be still? Well, I 482 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: think they would be. I think they would be dinged 483 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: responsible from a lot of those things you said, possibly 484 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: the fine, draft picks all that. But if Kawhi is 485 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: on the trount Raptors, if this is an official trade, 486 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: and the investigation shows, Oh Kawhi and his representatives were 487 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: also played a huge part in this. Uncle Dennis, you 488 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: shady man, were suspending you fifty games? Whatever it is. Well, 489 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: then of course that hurts the Tronto Raptors. I'm not 490 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: saying it's right. That's why they're not agreeing to it. 491 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: That's how I look at it. 492 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 3: That's what Michael Grange said. He said, this is basically 493 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: a worst case scenario. We can't have this go through 494 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 3: and then have Kawhi get suspended. Yeah, if you want 495 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 3: to punish Kawhi Leonard, make him play eighty two games, 496 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 3: that's true. So what changed though? Because reporting literally does 497 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: say the NBA informed the Raptors before they agreed to 498 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 3: the trade that the investigation could cause issues with any 499 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 3: deal involving Leonard. That's been in three different places. Wind 500 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 3: Orders reported it, Michael Grange reported it, and The Athletic 501 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 3: has reported it. They're all saying the Raptors knew going in, 502 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 3: and then the trade call actually happens and they're like, 503 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 3: wait a second, don't we don't want to be suspended. 504 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: So I don't know, that's just very strange to me. 505 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 3: Why didn't they why why what the Raptors were told 506 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 3: prior to the trade is different than when they actually 507 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: got on the trade call. I guess it is a 508 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 3: little similar. Remember at the trade deadline there were question 509 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 3: marks about can Terry Rozier's deal be put into a 510 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 3: trade by the Heat, and the League was like, we 511 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: can't tell you until you try and do it. Yeah, 512 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 3: so maybe that's what it is. There's like, we can 513 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 3: give you some advice, but until you make that final 514 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 3: trade call, we won't tell you the actual story. 515 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: And the Heat got screwed and then he got screwed. 516 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 3: And so yeah, I mean, I'm with you. I think 517 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 3: this is super embarrassing for the League to still be 518 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: talking about the Kawhi Leonard scandal a year later. It 519 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 3: better be done by next week. There's a Board of 520 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 3: Governor's meeting next week and it needs to be finished 521 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 3: by then. 522 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, according to Grange, he said, yeah, it could be 523 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: resolved by the Board of Governors meeting there in Las Vegas. 524 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 2: They'll decide yeah, yeah, the Clippers don't need to be 525 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: penalized for anything or whatever. They will sitting around that 526 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: table because it feels like it's just to me, they're 527 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: just putting out something to say something, because how could 528 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: they have not known? How could they not know what 529 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 2: the lake? What are the Clippers are going to get 530 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 2: hit with here? How could they not know? They've been 531 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 2: investigating for. 532 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: Ten still investigating tests. 533 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 2: I know, Adams a change here. 534 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: This is ridiculous. 535 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: Adam Silver, was that that NBA day as saying, Hey, 536 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 2: we know it's almost over. We got to get this done. 537 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 2: That was a month ago. This is weird. 538 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: I Yeah. The fascinating part, though, to me now becomes 539 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: and you've said before and I do agree with you ultimately, 540 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: like you don't think Kawhi is ultimately going to get punished. 541 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: But but this this hold up and the raptor is saying, okay, 542 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: we're not going to agree to the trade because you're 543 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: saying we would take on the risk, makes me wonder, like, suddenly, 544 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: is there more information that we don't know yet you 545 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: know in the public that maybe he will Yeah, that 546 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: maybe it's a possibility. 547 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: And maybe they found that out over the last nine 548 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: days when they decided to actually discuss it with the company. 549 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: What's the name of the company that's actually doing the investigation, Oh, if. 550 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: You want the law firm, Yeah, wacked ol lipped in 551 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: Rosen and Cats the real winners of all this, aren't they? 552 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: Billible hours? 553 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, maybe Rosen and Cats decided, hey, we're gonna 554 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: investigate this last week and they actually found something out 555 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 2: because this is this is so strange. 556 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 3: I mean, deadlines encourage you to work. Yes, oh, somebody 557 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 3: typed this up. 558 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: Well, I mean Silver at the start of the finals 559 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: was like, quote, we can't be investigating forever. And I 560 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: guess walked a Lipton Rosen and Cats that hold my beer, baby, 561 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: we absolutely can't. 562 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: And he said he said, quote, the inquiry was far along, 563 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: but now you just realize something. A month after that, 564 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: well what changed? Yeah, exactly. 565 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: A trade involving the main piece here. Yeah, does complicate things, 566 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: which is what we said and everybody said when that 567 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: trade news broke, like we were pumped Qui's coming back Toronto, 568 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: but it was like, hold on, what's going on here? 569 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: He is still I mean him, the team they're under investigation, 570 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: are they not? It's not settled. 571 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe let's trace said it's just a deadline, 572 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: and they started to your things out, you know, in 573 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: collaboration with what Uncle Dennis did to both the Raptors 574 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: and the Lakers asking for both ownership in what's ownership 575 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: in different companies right in the in the the sponsorships. 576 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: I mean just asking for things he's not legally allowed 577 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: to ask through. 578 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 2: With the remember problem they said investigating. 579 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: I think the Raptors said no, and then they told 580 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: the league like he's asking for things he's not legally 581 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: allowed to be asking for it. Right, That's that's you 582 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: know obviously what published reporting shows too and others. 583 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, absolutely, Yeah, as. 584 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: Zilla wrote in his newsletter today, quote the Clippers, I 585 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: mean a possibility here the Clippers will no longer bear 586 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: the penalty of losing Kawai for a period of time. 587 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: If that's where the verdict comes down, that is pretty insane. 588 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: That goes to what you were saying, TK, like the 589 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: season is over where Kawhi was a Clipper. Yeah, so 590 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: if he is suspended again twenty thirty forty fifty, Like, 591 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: if it happens, and it's probably still a long shot 592 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: because I think you'd have the union getting involved in 593 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: all that. But that's crazy that the Raptors would be 594 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: the team getting penalized from the Kawhi side of things. Now, 595 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: could that influence Silver's decision on other penalties directly hitting 596 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: the Clippers maybe, like you know, the loss of draft 597 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: picks and cap related things. 598 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 2: That so fun. This is so fun to talk about 599 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 2: the gossip because it could just be Kawhi Leonard's contract 600 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 2: being voided and not necessarily it could. Yeah, and then 601 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 2: he's a free agent and then the Toronto Raptors literally 602 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: could sign him, you know, to the veteran minimum. Highly unlikely, 603 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: It's highly unlikely. But the slide them all something under 604 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: the table there you go. Yeah, the non taxpayer mle 605 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: mid level exception. 606 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: But this holds up other business maneuvers for both teams, 607 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: and you know, sorry Clippers, but I'm really focused on 608 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: the Raptors here, like obviously brandon Ingram and graded Dicker 609 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: also in limbo now here and potential moves and stuff 610 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: like that with a trade of this magnitude just like 611 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,719 Speaker 1: on pause, like it like this has to be decided 612 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: next week at this port a Goner meeting. 613 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: It has to. Yeah, that's what makes me think it's 614 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: just them trying to put a little bit of a 615 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 2: light on the NBA, trying to indicate we did something here. 616 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of another spotlight and it's late 617 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: in the season, or they haven't done anything the following season, 618 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: they've done nothing. Oh yeah, of course, I know. They're 619 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: just making it. 620 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: Evidence from both the Clippers and Raptors is not doing something. 621 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,239 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. But it's just well, I know, 622 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 2: but they're just trying to indicate that we did something. 623 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 2: There's headlines about them being part of an investigation. We 624 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: know the white collar law firm's name. You know, something happened, 625 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: you know. Otherwise it's not even a story. It hasn't 626 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 2: been a story. Otherwise it would just be something that 627 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 2: happens in August or whenever it's going to happen. This 628 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 2: is actually something. There's no explanation for why it is 629 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: taking so long. 630 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 3: Whindhorse sat on the podcast today that it feels like 631 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 3: the league is getting their ducks in a row because 632 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 3: they're going up against Steve Balmer, the richest owner in 633 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 3: the league, one of the richest people on Earth. YEP, 634 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 3: that guy's going to have all of the resources to 635 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 3: fight whatever comes back the Clippers way, so they have 636 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 3: to nail it. Like the only thing that would be 637 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 3: worse than the way they've handled it is if they 638 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: announced what happened in the investigation and the Clippers like 639 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 3: counter sue and then win that like ooh, you blew 640 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 3: it NBA after wasting a year. So they have to 641 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 3: nail it at the very first time, and it could 642 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 3: work out for the Raptors, Like it wouldn't be surprising 643 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: if both teams in both of their statements they both 644 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 3: say they want the trade to go through. Yes, the 645 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 3: Raptors are like, we're eager to get Kawhi Leonard. We 646 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 3: expect a swift revolution resolution. It should be done soon. 647 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: We still want Kawhi. Maybe they just have to tinker 648 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: with the draft compensation going back to the Clippers, and 649 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 3: then it ends up the Raptors get Kawhi. They're still 650 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 3: gonna have to pay him whatever his extension is, but 651 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 3: they're get him for less first round picks. Yeah, that'd 652 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 3: be great for the Raptors. Like, wouldn't you do that 653 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 3: even if they said, Kawhi Leonard is going to be 654 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 3: suspended thirty games next season, but we're growing in one 655 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 3: last first round pick? Would you do it? Heartbeat easily? 656 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: Anyway? This workd out better? 657 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: Yes, League mandated load managing for Kawhi Leonard. 658 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, the Clippers are going to have to give 659 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: up that first round pick, is what it feels like 660 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: at this point. 661 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, yeah, yeah. 662 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: Does it go back to the Raptors is the question? 663 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: Or is it just a completely voided pick, you know, 664 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: the Clippers. I should go back to the Raptors, I 665 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: would think, but who knows. Sorry, we'll hopefully have this, 666 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: or it's not even part of the deal. It's some 667 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: other pick that they own. I mean, we don't know 668 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: what this right. 669 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: That may not have anything to do It doesn't necessarily 670 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: have anything to do with the Raptors. And that's why 671 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: the Raptors, I said, I assume stepped in and said 672 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: we want nothing to do with it. So it doesn't 673 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 2: involve us. It's all about the Clippers and what they 674 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 2: did with Kauhi. This has nothing to do with the trade. 675 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 3: Ye. 676 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: But again that's why it's not being called through the league, 677 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: because the League is telling the Raptors okay, yeah, but hey, 678 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: before you agree to this, if the investigation finds Kawhi 679 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: guilty in any of this and he's penalized, then that's 680 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: on you because you'll have acquired him. So they're like, well, 681 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: we better wait. Then again, I think a week ago 682 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: they weren't told that, or they were under the assumption. 683 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: Either the raptors just assumed it was going to be 684 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: fine and Kawhi wouldn't be penalized. And again, maybe that'll 685 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: be the case, or they were given misinformation, or at 686 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: least the NBA changed their mind and the lawyers changed 687 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: their mind, and everyone was like, uh, you know what, 688 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: you better tell them, you better say this to them 689 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: at least, And then they said, okay, we'll wait. 690 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: What a mess. 691 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: It's insane that it's taken this long. That's yeah. I 692 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: mean I remember us debating whether it would be decided 693 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: before the All Star break, which was in LA. I 694 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: remember us having these conversations with that. Well, probably not. 695 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: They'd love to have that in the into a dome 696 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: still and yeah, yeah, sort of put that on the 697 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: back burner. Okay, it'll get done after that, you know, 698 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: maybe march orsome. Here we are still. 699 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: Has there ever been a more interesting Board of Governor's 700 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: meeting in the history of the NBA for fans? I 701 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: don't think so. 702 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: Maybe like walkouts and stuff. 703 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Stern versus the PA. Sure, but this is great. 704 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: This is fun. This is one fun. This is one 705 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 2: that happens in one of those hotels where they usually happen, 706 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 2: some particular hotels win. 707 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: I can't remember where they stay. 708 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: I've walked by it before, but this time there's gonna 709 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: be some press. Like I've walked by it, there's been 710 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 2: no one there. Now there's gonna be some stuff. Okay, yeah, 711 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 2: exciting stuff. 712 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: We're not there, all right, Let's take a break and 713 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: then we'll get into some sillier topics in the updown report. 714 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 2: Spain Belgium today or no, I got that one wrong. No, No, 715 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 2: I've got Spain to win now, but I kind of 716 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: want Spain. I kind of want Belgium to win after 717 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 2: they beat What am I saying? 718 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: What are you saying? 719 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 3: Spain and Belgium? 720 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they played three. Yeah, I got it. I 721 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: got it conflated because I thought Spain won yesterday. That 722 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 2: was France. I get my Spains in France mixed up. 723 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: I've got Spain to win, but I kind of want 724 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: Belgium after they beat the USA, you know what I mean? 725 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: But then we get Norway, England early, Holland's all up 726 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 2: in my algorithm these days. 727 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: Looks like a green onion. 728 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 2: The videos have you seen that? No, I have not 729 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 2: seen it. 730 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: You take a green because of his hair, there's a 731 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: lot of. 732 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 2: There's there's a video of him eating and then he 733 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 2: sees himself in the mirror, which is right beside him, 734 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: and he jumps. I mean, he's a likable guy, even 735 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 2: if you hate him, even if you think it's weird 736 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: that he walks around with those very expensive briefcases and 737 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: bags and stuck in bags. Yeah, I think he's a 738 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 2: likable guy. I like my algorithm. That's all I gotta say. 739 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 2: And now FanDuel is giving you a reason to root 740 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 2: for every single goal. Introducing every goal pays bet on 741 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 2: a match and get bonus bets for every goal scored 742 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 2: in that match. That's right. More goals means more bonus 743 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: bets than All you have to do is turn on 744 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 2: your token. Let there be goals on FanDuel. 745 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 3: JD. 746 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: Your guy looked pretty good yesterday. I don't know if 747 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: you watched your French team play Buppy. 748 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 5: I did not watch his single sick same Unfortunately, why 749 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 5: I had my alta pickleball practice because there comes first 750 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 5: my physical health. 751 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: Was that a three pm Eastern time. Yes, yeah, that's 752 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 2: maybe four. 753 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so they're all over the place. 754 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 3: Got shut down on p K though he did. Yeah, 755 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 3: that was surprising, it was. 756 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: That was a bad PK for him. Yeah, I could save, 757 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 1: but he didn't have a lot of juice on that one. 758 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 3: Not a lot of juice. I hate the stutter steps. 759 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 3: I kiss stupid. They like banded a different stutter and 760 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 3: now you have to stutter one step before you do it, 761 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 3: and every guy does it. 762 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 2: I know you have to do it one step. 763 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 3: You can't. You can't like get to the ball stutter 764 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 3: and then kick. You have to stutter step kick. 765 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. Broadcasters, hey it every time it happens, 766 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 2: broadcast like, this isn't part of the game sort of thing. 767 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks stupid, Just. 768 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 2: Go kick it. 769 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: He made up for it with his goal in the 770 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: actual That was a sick all right, let's get into 771 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 1: the updown report. According to Brian Windhorse, the Wizards promised 772 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: Trey Young they would sign him to a near max 773 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 1: contract after acquiring him at the trade deadline, but they 774 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 1: needed or wanted him to sit out games to secure 775 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: the top pick. Trey Young ended up playing five games 776 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: for Washington, all of them losses, by the way, after 777 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: he made his way to washing So you know, this 778 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: made some news yesterday. Up or down TK on the 779 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: Wizards promising Trey Young a max contract in exchange for 780 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,919 Speaker 1: sitting out the rest of last year. 781 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 3: What does mean to you that you're. 782 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: Okay, that you're okay with this and down you'd be like, 783 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 1: this is pretty shady. 784 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 3: Okay, Then I think it's shady. Okay, I do think 785 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 3: it's shady. We hear a lot about these wink Wink deals, 786 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 3: and the trade has made it feels like the extension 787 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 3: is already lined up. That's normal stuff the brandon ing room. 788 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 3: We've seen it with Pascal Siakama. Happens all the time. 789 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 3: I couldn't totally tell if a Windhorse was reporting or speculating. 790 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 3: I feel like it was a little bit of both. 791 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 3: But this is a little different when you're literally like, yeah, 792 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 3: sit out because we're protecting our draft pick here. It 793 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 3: felt like everybody knew that. But having the promise of 794 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 3: getting two hundred million dollars at the end is kind 795 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 3: of weird. That's just that just was a little weird 796 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 3: ski to me. 797 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he also in his whether it was quoting 798 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 2: what the Wizard said. Brian Windhors never used the word max, 799 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 2: not even close. He didn't use that word max. He 800 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 2: did say, we will give you an extension. That's what 801 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 2: he implied that the Wizard said, we will give you 802 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 2: an extension. 803 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: Trade already knew he was going to get paid. Quote 804 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: from Windhorse Peace, Yeah, yeah, what does that mean? 805 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 2: That could mean one hundred million over three years. I 806 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 2: mean that's I saw this aggregate. The misquote. I'm down 807 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 2: on that Reddit user Shay fan Club who put this 808 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 2: up and it started to get a lot of steam 809 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 2: from there. It's a misquote. Don't like it. He didn't 810 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 2: use the word max. And so when we actually heard 811 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 2: about the Trey Young trade, we said, how many games 812 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: is he going to play? I think that over under 813 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 2: Skizu throughout there was twenty for games. But I took Yeah, 814 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 2: you know, I was naive for sure. I thought Trey 815 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 2: was going to try and prove that he was worth 816 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 2: somewhere close to the MAX, because I don't think he 817 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 2: should have gotten anywhere close to the max. He got 818 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 2: the max, which is a crazy amount of money. So 819 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 2: down in a lot of whole different ways. This is 820 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 2: this is this is weird. He just said we're going 821 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 2: to take They just said we're going to take care 822 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 2: of you and pay you, I thought at that time, 823 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 2: because he was traded for CJ. McCollum and Corey Kispert 824 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 2: and that's it. No draft picks that he wouldn't get 825 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 2: anywhere close to four years over two hundred. 826 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: Two hundred and twelve million, seven point five percent trade 827 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: kicker too. I mean, it's a massive gamble obviously on 828 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: the health of Trey youngah in that contract. 829 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 2: And the length yet the length of it for sure, but. 830 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, do I believe this happened one hundred percent? Yeah, Like, 831 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna make this deal. And hey, by the way, Trey, 832 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: I know you're a little banged up as it is. 833 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: You don't need to play a lot here. You don't 834 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: because we'd like to get the number one pick. That'd 835 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: be great to get the batsa beside you and everything else. 836 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: So you take it easy. We're going to pay you. 837 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 838 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: Maybe they didn't get into the actual specifics, but uh, 839 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: this is what happened here. That's what they did. He 840 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: got paid a lot more than we thought for sure, 841 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: and play five games. Now, the funny part is again, 842 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: he played in five games. They did not win these games. 843 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 1: He was on limited minutes. From what I remember too, 844 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: he was not playing thirty thirty five minutes. He was 845 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: playing like twenty minutes, like under I think in some 846 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: of those games. So it's not like he played and 847 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 1: they're like, oh crap, we're winning games. So Trey Young 848 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: out here. It wouldn't have mattered. 849 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 2: Probably, That's what. 850 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: I'm getting at. So it's I don't know. 851 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 3: This does feel like if they could prove it, the 852 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 3: Wizard should get a fine for this. This feels like 853 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 3: a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars fine to me. Sure, 854 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 3: for all of the drama we went through last season 855 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 3: and the changing of the lottery rules with regards to tanking, 856 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 3: for a team to literally be like, we'll give you 857 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 3: two hundred million dollars if you don't play so we 858 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 3: can get the number one draft pick. That's bad. That's 859 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 3: worth a fine. I think we should watch a year 860 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 3: long investigation. 861 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: Oh wow, I was thinking imagine this. You know Windhorse 862 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: said this last year during all the tanking talk. I'm like, 863 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: oh boy, there would this would this would get a 864 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: lot of headlines back then. I mean hell, we had 865 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: Yiannis basically doing this where the Bucks were saying, now, 866 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: I know they're thinking of trading them, but they're like, 867 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: don't come and play honest, and he's like, screw that. 868 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: I want to play. I want the league to investigate 869 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: why I can't play, why my own team is saying that. 870 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. 871 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: I don't really remember that now, but that was a thing. 872 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 2: It's a funny thing with Tree Young because good player, 873 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 2: but playing could mean more losses as well. 874 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: They lost all five. 875 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 2: Of and he had a bad record when he played 876 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 2: with the Atlanta Hawks this year. 877 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. 878 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 2: Right, So that's the funny bright and it never you're 879 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 2: never guaranteed to get the first pick, even if you 880 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 2: lose in the game. Yeah. And now we're under a 881 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 2: month away from when Anthony Davis could get an extension. 882 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: It's August sixth his extension possibility. And you can speculate 883 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 2: and say, hey, they gave Trey this big contract because 884 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 2: they want to give Anthony Davis a contract. And they said, Okay, 885 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 2: we give you a big contract that will entice the 886 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 2: the Anthony Davis people that maybe you should sign here too. 887 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 2: If that's the rate they're going This is such an 888 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 2: odd team, right with how old they're getting. How old 889 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 2: are you? 890 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 1: But they have so much young talent. 891 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're on this two paths. It's intriguing. Anyway, about 892 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 2: four years, man, that's a long time anyway. 893 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,720 Speaker 1: Next one here, Jonathan Kaminga has emerged as the Lakers' 894 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,760 Speaker 1: top target to put the finishing touches on the revamped roster. 895 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: Mutual interest in getting a deal done. Apparently, according to 896 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 1: Brad Turner of the La Times, the Lakers want to 897 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: sign kaming to a two year, twenty million dollar contract. 898 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: Might have to be a sign in trade though with 899 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: the Hawks. Are you up er down pass on the 900 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: Lakers trying to acquire Jonathan Kaminga. 901 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 2: I'm done. I think they need another type of player. 902 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 2: They need some sort of perimeter defense and some size. 903 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 2: And we don't know what Jonathan Kmenica's future is going 904 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 2: to be here in the NBA. He played pretty well 905 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 2: to end his season with the Atlanta Hawks, that's for sure. 906 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 2: But if we're talking about the sign and trade, which 907 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 2: is going to be for way more money than the 908 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 2: Lakers can just give him under the cap because they 909 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 2: don't have a lot of room at all, it would 910 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 2: be for a lot more money, and you're really going 911 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 2: to look at a team that can just outscore teams. No, 912 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 2: jj Reddick did an incredible job last year getting this 913 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 2: team to play defense and buy in. But telling Jonathan 914 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 2: Comiera Cord in the New York Post, the report was 915 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 2: that he was told that he'd be a starting player. 916 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 2: You're you're getting into risky ground. I think there's just 917 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 2: better opportunities. Go try something cheaper like Matis stibles available. Oh, 918 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 2: Chaia Baji's available. Just a different type of guy now 919 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 2: with him. If you're talking about Kaminga along with Mammu 920 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 2: and Grimes, you're small, You're not an incredible perimeter defensive team. 921 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:28,280 Speaker 2: I would say move on. Although you know potential with Kaminga, 922 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 2: of course, every single time that's the conversation, that's the 923 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 2: word you throw with Kaminga. But I think it's it's 924 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 2: risky Trey. 925 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: The reporting says Kaminga wants to be a Laker. The 926 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: Lakers want Kaminga, as I said. A source told the 927 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 1: Post that the Hawks are willing to execute a sign 928 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: and trade with the Lakers around the framework of Kaminga 929 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: going to LA and the Hawks receiving Jared Vanderbilt and 930 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,399 Speaker 1: the Lakers twenty thirty two first round pick swamp, which 931 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: I think is basically like the only draft capital. Yes, 932 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 1: they would even have to dangle in a sign and 933 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: trade with Atlanta. What are your thoughts up or down? 934 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 3: I'm like sideways because I do think I think that 935 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 3: the Lakers need a big wing and they need athleticism. 936 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 3: Those are two things that certainly Kaminga brings for sure, 937 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 3: But what they really need from that big wing is 938 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 3: shooting and defense, which are not Cominga's strong points. But 939 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 3: you mentioned the other options like Thibel and Abagi are 940 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 3: on my list, but so are Zaier Williams and Bruce Brown. 941 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 3: Kaminga might be a better player than all four of 942 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 3: those guys. He's certainly more talented, yeah, than all four 943 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 3: of those guys. I think the cost is kind of low, 944 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 3: Like the Lakers are in for a penny, so they 945 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,919 Speaker 3: should be in for a pound. They spent so much 946 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 3: on Walker Kessler, on Austin Reeves, on signing all of 947 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 3: their guys, throwing in a twenty thirty two swap, that's 948 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 3: kind of nothing compared to what they've already done. So 949 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 3: it's like, you know, playing poker. You're you're paying up 950 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 3: for your flush draw through four cards, you gotta pay 951 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 3: to see the fifth. So maybe they should do it. 952 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 3: There's just not a perfect fit out there for the 953 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 3: Lakers right now, because surely if Kaminga makes his way there, 954 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 3: JJ Reddick will be like, he just needs to be 955 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 3: our Shawn Marion. Yeah, and guess what, Sean Marion is 956 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,839 Speaker 3: the perfect fit for this Lakers team. I'm talking prime 957 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 3: Sean Marion. 958 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. 959 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 3: Sure, he guards up, he guards down, he rebounds, he 960 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 3: runs the court, he makes threes. Would have been the 961 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,240 Speaker 3: perfect guy. But he played like ten years ago. Yeah, yeah, 962 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 3: so he's more like a warrior actually. 963 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 2: Fair enough. Anyway, in theory, trying to Thinkamega could dream 964 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 2: about being sewn Marion. Well, it happened, ever, I mean 965 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 2: JJ wreck again. He did a really good job of 966 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 2: getting stuff out of guys, So maybe it could happen. 967 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: I don't have it in the rundown here because it 968 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: happened right before we got into the Classic Factory. But 969 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: Jake Fisher, the People's Insider from the Steinlein, was talking 970 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 1: about the Atlanta Hawks possibly be interested being interested still 971 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,280 Speaker 1: in Peyton Watson in a sign and trade with Denver 972 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: that they have their eyes maybe on him still, which 973 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 1: I think would be a great addition to the Atlanta Hawks, 974 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: and a player like that it could really slot in nicely. 975 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: I assume Receschet would be a guy going out and 976 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 1: then draft capital, which you know they have some of 977 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: something to watch. I like that move, I tweeted, I 978 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: think Tim Bontemps should advice advice on that. I like 979 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: the concept. I don't think it'll happen, but apparently they're 980 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: still in the running, are still interested at the very least. 981 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,919 Speaker 2: The Nuggets, I assume want to keep Payton watch. 982 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: I think I would hope. So all right, next one, here, 983 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: a new group is pursuing an NBA team in Las Vegas, 984 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Jacks, led by Hall of Famer Jerry 985 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 1: Colangelo and former NBA coach Vinie Del Negro. There's a name, 986 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen it a while, delgro Baby. So they 987 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: claim eight billion in total capital and promise to build 988 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: the most impressive, state of the art basketball arena in 989 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: the world. And here for everybody on YouTube is sort 990 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: of the logo or the the look attached to this 991 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: concept to the Las Vegas Jacks and this possibility of 992 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,919 Speaker 1: an NBA expansion, so up or down on the name, 993 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: and you know the look obviously going with the playing 994 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 1: card Las Vegas Jack's tray. 995 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 3: I hate the look. I can't imagine this is real. 996 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 3: I know, this feels like somebody's slapped this one up 997 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 3: on AI to me. But the name is real. This 998 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 3: is the name that the Colangelo Vinnie del Negro group 999 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 3: is going with. That was a shock to me. I 1000 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 3: didn't know Vinie del Negro had it like that. I 1001 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 3: made like seventeen million in his career, but he's the 1002 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 3: number two guy on the list here. That's crazy to me. 1003 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 3: Maybe he's done awesome after playing. I don't know. If 1004 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 3: you're looking at cards, Jacks is the highest available that's 1005 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 3: out there. Cases gone, King's gone, Queen's They're not going 1006 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 3: to do it. Jacks is all that left. 1007 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: I think Queen's Queen's are not gonna do it. I 1008 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: also was just assigned to a women's professional baseball team. 1009 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 3: Well see now you can't double, now you can't. No, yeah, 1010 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 3: so Jax, I guess it is technically the best available 1011 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 3: card left test. 1012 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 2: But it ain't gonna happen. Noah, think about the broadcasters. 1013 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 2: Jack's off to a great start. You don't want to 1014 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 2: do that. 1015 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:03,879 Speaker 1: It's pretty fun. 1016 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 2: There's better names. 1017 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 3: They gotta get smooth Peterson if the Jacks are gonna 1018 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 3: be off, Okay, better names. 1019 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 2: Even the Sharks is better. If you want the poker 1020 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 2: tie in, Oh, inferno because it's hot, in Vegas, fire 1021 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 2: because it's hot. 1022 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 1: When we did our fun expansion Vault, we went with 1023 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 1: Las Vegas Venom. I think we just went with Las Vegas. 1024 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,839 Speaker 2: Vault is better. I've decided. Yeah, it's a great arena name. 1025 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 2: I mean, it's the Vault. 1026 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 1: For the team. 1027 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 2: The Vault is kind of odd. You know, you want 1028 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 2: a team with no s. I don't know the Vaults. 1029 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 2: That's too weird. Either way, it's happening. The team is happening. 1030 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 2: There another arena. They need another arena, although they're starting, 1031 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 2: according to the press report, in the Team Obile arena, 1032 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,080 Speaker 2: which is already existing and looks like an. 1033 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:05,280 Speaker 3: Totally total a yeah, totally fine arena. But the owner 1034 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 3: of the aces is also has their own bid and 1035 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 3: they're like, we're gonna make the arena better. Yeah, going forward, 1036 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,319 Speaker 3: Whereas the Jacks plan is playing Team Mobile for a year. 1037 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,240 Speaker 3: Raise up to thirteen billion dollars and build our own 1038 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 3: stadium in Las Vegas. So the fact that the other 1039 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 3: group already has a stadium means me think that they're 1040 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 3: probably ahead, But I don't know. I do think that 1041 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 3: this announcement was timed with Summer League launching though. Yeah, 1042 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 3: every guys in Las Vegas, let's talk about Vegas. 1043 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 2: I know Vinnie del Negro is the second name listed, 1044 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 2: but I don't think he has much as much money 1045 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 2: as David Levy. Yeah, he's just he's just thrown in 1046 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 2: their second. Also, Scott Colangelo thrown in there. Also Jay 1047 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 2: Williams former Oh yeah, the former player also thrown in there. 1048 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,240 Speaker 2: They're throwing in a lot of names here. Oh yeah, 1049 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 2: I got them all. I think I listed them all. 1050 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,760 Speaker 3: CEO Jonathan Thomas, I saw was also. 1051 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 1: Part of the Great Thomas from Uh. 1052 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 3: He's actually the one that's going to be in charge 1053 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 3: of building the stadium. Sweet Al? 1054 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 2: Was that Al? 1055 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: And I'm like, hold on, that's married with children. We 1056 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 1: had two owls, two famous als. Yeah, Owl's are on 1057 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 1: top of the world. 1058 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 2: Back then, I didn't recognize the name Jonathan Thomas because 1059 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 2: it's he's a three named guys yeah, Jonathan Taylor. 1060 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,280 Speaker 1: No one's ever called him just Jonathan Thomas. 1061 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 2: But all right, next one here. 1062 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,280 Speaker 1: After officially signing with the Miami Heat on Monday, questions 1063 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: arose about what number Tim Hardaway Junior would wear. We 1064 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 1: talked about it. He's rock number ten several times at 1065 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,359 Speaker 1: previous stops Atlanta, Dallas, Dember, but that number was up 1066 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 1: in the rafters in Miami thanks to his dad, Hall 1067 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:53,240 Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Hardaway Senior. Well, he did get pop's 1068 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,320 Speaker 1: blessings after all to wear number ten. And here's the photo. 1069 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: It's official. I think even Parrelly Joe about it, of 1070 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 1: handing over the number ten Hardaway. There, Hardaway Junior too young, Tim, 1071 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 1: So it's like this went back and forth for weeks, 1072 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,319 Speaker 1: it felt like. But in the NTK, are you up 1073 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 1: or down on Tim Hardaway Junior wearing his father's retired 1074 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 1: number ten? 1075 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is good. I mean Tim Hardaway Junior has 1076 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,479 Speaker 3: won ten in three other places. The times he didn't 1077 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 3: wear it was because it was retired for whoever. I 1078 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 3: like what he said when they were talking about the 1079 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 3: jersey said, I think the first go around was a 1080 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 3: personal decision. The second go around was a family decision. 1081 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave it at that. 1082 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 3: He said, Yeah, the Tim's wear the jerseys and the 1083 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 3: mom wears the pants is what it seems like to me. 1084 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 3: And then pat Riley hooked up Tim Hardaway Junior with 1085 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,360 Speaker 3: Tim Hardaway Senior's old locker, so everybody wanted this to happen. 1086 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:44,799 Speaker 2: There we go. 1087 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Tim Hardaway Senior originally said the concept of 1088 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 1: like that number ten is not coming down from the rafters, 1089 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 1: even it's for my son. In twenty twenty four, I 1090 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 1: think that's where it first started. I think he was 1091 00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 1: talking to Haslo and Mike Miller on what's the name 1092 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: of that podcast start has them? Yeah, is that still 1093 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: an active I don't know. It was called The OG's Show. 1094 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, geez I forgot Yeah. 1095 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, Mike Miller, Oh no, yeah, I would have 1096 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 1: known that. 1097 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 2: I would have got there. 1098 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 1: You know a lot about playing. 1099 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 2: You mentioned pants and who wears the pants. What Tim 1100 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 2: Hardaway should get done is somebody to iron his pants. 1101 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 2: There's a big wrinkle in those pants. I mean, this 1102 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 2: is your uh maybe it's the low camera shot there, 1103 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 2: but it could be better. You know, there's a wrinkle there. 1104 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,359 Speaker 2: Let's work on that. Increase. But he had his best 1105 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 2: season last year wearing number ten. Just let him keep 1106 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 2: wearing it. That was year thirteen. This guy's been in 1107 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 2: the LEA for thirteen years and he's I think he's peaked. 1108 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 2: This is this is I mean not in a bad way, 1109 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 2: but he has peaked in year number thirteen, so I 1110 00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,720 Speaker 2: think this is this is great for him. The Nuggets 1111 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 2: question is interesting. He left the Nuggets. The bench was great. 1112 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 2: Leonna Salchun is also not going back to the Nuggets bench. 1113 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 2: They were really good when Jokic went to the bench 1114 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,399 Speaker 2: last year, which is weird because we all think, oh, 1115 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 2: the non Jokic minutes, they stink. They're only outscored by 1116 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 2: two point nine points per hundred possessions with Jokic off 1117 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 2: the court last season and outscored, that means they're bad. 1118 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,720 Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter with Jokic and Jokic in previous seasons. 1119 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 2: They're getting destroyed. Tim Hardawaves was improved. 1120 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:29,800 Speaker 1: It was great, It was improved. 1121 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,760 Speaker 2: He was that's going to be an interre. You mentioned 1122 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 2: Peyton Watson maybe bouncing around the league. Who was who 1123 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 2: helped out that team? This is an odd season, but 1124 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 2: or odd offseason I should say for the Nuggets. But hey, 1125 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 2: great for Tim. Good for you Tim, Good for Tim. 1126 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 1: Uh, he will be wearing number ten. Looks good, looks good. 1127 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,839 Speaker 1: I like how it looks on the jersey. All right, 1128 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,320 Speaker 1: we'll call it there with the updown report. We're actually 1129 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,280 Speaker 1: going to have a bonus up down question on substack 1130 00:53:59,160 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 1: soon after this. 1131 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be involved in these 1132 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 2: pop tarts because somebody brought it up the other day. 1133 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 2: We started talking about pop tarts. We had somebody email 1134 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,239 Speaker 2: in and say, hey, my fiance says that the strawberry 1135 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 2: pop tarts are better without the frosting. Big discussion here, 1136 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 2: and then Skeet's mentioned he had never had a pop 1137 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,839 Speaker 2: tart never, Well, you're gonna have one now. It's the 1138 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,840 Speaker 2: official snack of US soccer. You're gonna be way fitter 1139 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 2: after having But we got you. We got your regular 1140 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 2: strawberry with frosting, oat course. 1141 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:34,919 Speaker 1: So we'll do a little taste test for the first 1142 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 1: time ever on substack. Linca's in the show notes. Go 1143 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:42,840 Speaker 1: join us over there, bonus up down all right, before 1144 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,760 Speaker 1: we go rapid fire questions, JD, you got the cues, 1145 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 1: we got the answers. 1146 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,440 Speaker 5: Yes, I have the questions, I have the volume, I 1147 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:52,320 Speaker 5: have the music. 1148 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 1149 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 5: Guys, John Elmore, this guy is the oldest player at 1150 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 5: Summer this year, which depressingly means he's thirty years old. Guys, 1151 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 5: he's been bouncing around playing basketball all over the world 1152 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 5: for the last seven years. Each your heart out, Lee Ellis. 1153 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 5: And before that, he played at Marshall from twenty fifteen 1154 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:20,439 Speaker 5: to twenty nineteen and left campus a legend. Guys, what's 1155 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 5: something you could get into at the absolute last second 1156 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,840 Speaker 5: and somehow convince everyone that you still belong skeets. 1157 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,319 Speaker 1: A tour guide? Okay, guide, Yeah, it doesn't matter really 1158 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,799 Speaker 1: for what I think I could fake it. Just read 1159 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,760 Speaker 1: the signs sort of. Yeah, just walk around with confidence, 1160 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 1: talk with confidence. 1161 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 3: Here's a building. 1162 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like people. I can talk out my ass 1163 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: for it for a little bit. Yeah, So I think 1164 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 1: I could just pull it off, he said, step in 1165 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 1: last second. If a tour guide suddenly came down with 1166 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 1: the flu, like we need somebody, It's like people yelling 1167 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 1: he's anybody a doctor here? Does anybody on a tour guy? Here? 1168 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,919 Speaker 1: I put my hand off either gout one they're like, yeah, sure, 1169 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 1: what are we doing? 1170 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:01,479 Speaker 3: Give me a map? 1171 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1172 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,399 Speaker 1: Oh I'm a good map reader. Actually directional I'm very 1173 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,240 Speaker 1: good at is a good skill of mine. 1174 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 2: So tour, what would be the tour guy that you wanted? 1175 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,400 Speaker 1: Like, I see a city tour like you know, on 1176 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 1: a bus. No, I would. I think I'd be better walking. 1177 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm a good walker. 1178 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 4: One would be able to keep. 1179 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,880 Speaker 1: I'd be gone. People would be on like the second, 1180 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,960 Speaker 1: you know, attraction would be already be done. 1181 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 3: That's a fast tour. 1182 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly is there like do you know of like 1183 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,439 Speaker 5: is there I mean Stratford, Ontario? I guess you could 1184 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,760 Speaker 5: probably give a tour of like, but is there somewhere 1185 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 5: that you can actually actually have facts? 1186 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 4: And oh? 1187 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 1: I guess I would have the best chance of Well, 1188 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:53,439 Speaker 1: but like, I mean you put me in Vegas. There's 1189 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,719 Speaker 1: enough things that I could tell you about, enough personal story. 1190 00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 3: That a little flavor tour, you know, photos in there? Yeah, exactly. 1191 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 3: That's pen and Teller. Are they a magic show or 1192 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 3: our comedy show? They don't know. 1193 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 1: We got kicked out of a Penn and Teller show. 1194 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,360 Speaker 1: He was heckling them. You're not supposed to do that 1195 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 1: at a magic show. Uh yeah, no, I feel confident, 1196 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I'm thinking I'm not Yeah, just 1197 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 1: to pull it off for one day? Sure, Because also 1198 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 1: people like you gotta remember they got no fucking idea. 1199 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1200 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 1: Their reason they're on the tour is they have no clue. 1201 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 1: So I can just make things up and they're like, wow, 1202 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: that's amazing. 1203 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,760 Speaker 2: What happens if the mic sucks? Because that happens with 1204 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 2: tour Sometimes they get a mic and you just don't 1205 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 2: want to listen to them? 1206 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 1: Would do it? Mic Liss? 1207 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 2: Good for you. 1208 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 1: I can project, and you know I can command. I 1209 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 1: think ten to twelve people, whatever the group is. Yeah, yeah, 1210 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 1: so yeah gather around good one. 1211 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, can I swear on this tour? 1212 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 1: Do any of these little fuckers come out all jiz 1213 00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 1: all over the place? 1214 00:57:59,440 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1215 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 5: After tassy, what's something you can still get into at 1216 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,440 Speaker 5: the last possible. 1217 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 4: Second and convince people who still belong. 1218 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 2: Here's a weird answer. I could be a Spanish speaking 1219 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 2: sports interviewer. Wow, wow, ye Espanol. Me favorita idioma s Espanol. 1220 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 2: Because this was inspired by one of our fans said, hey, 1221 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 2: you look like the Mexican JJ Redick and so I 1222 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,479 Speaker 2: could easily fit in to you know those Uh, there's 1223 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 2: Instagram videos of guys who go around speaking to Spanish people. 1224 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 2: English not their first language, so they've got an accent. 1225 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 2: They read a sports team. He goes, what does the 1226 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 2: sports team say, essentially, and they would say merely woke 1227 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 2: books and then the split spring comes up of several 1228 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 2: books and everybody laughs. He said books, not box. 1229 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 1: So that's they're hilarious. Love your algorithm. 1230 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 2: They are funny. Every single sports team. He won't put 1231 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,960 Speaker 2: it up unless somebody says something that's easy to throw 1232 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 2: up in a split screen that looks dumb. I'm trying 1233 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 2: to think of another one. I guess. I guess I 1234 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 2: don't love it enough. I haven't seen it a long time. 1235 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 3: Do you in your algorithm? Do you have the guy 1236 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 3: who is constantly rolling burritos and also at the same 1237 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 3: time teaching you different like idioms in Spanish don't say no, 1238 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 3: say this, this, this, this, this. I love that, and 1239 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:38,560 Speaker 3: he's got nice roles. 1240 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 1: No, yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. 1241 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 3: That one's served up to me quite a bit. 1242 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 2: So it has nothing to do what he's saying, has 1243 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 2: nothing to do with it. 1244 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 3: Don't say I'm doing okay, say yeah, I'm chilling. 1245 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 1: Like slang yeah yeah, slang exactly. 1246 00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 2: No, it's only Greek in my my my idio algorithm. 1247 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 2: But I think I guess they have that for every language, essentially, 1248 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 2: like what you should say. 1249 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 3: Frequent guys folding up an that's how everyone a hot 1250 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 3: dog and a bunch sliding on down. 1251 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 1: Don't say cool, say wicked. 1252 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 3: I'll starting that as tray. 1253 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 4: What's something you can get into in the last possible say. 1254 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 3: If a J Hawk's ever sick, I could fill in, 1255 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 3: no problem. If you're here watch. 1256 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,280 Speaker 1: For the podcast listener trade just not in the way, 1257 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 1: just like a J Hawk style and he's on the back. Yes, spot, 1258 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,760 Speaker 1: I think you were actually reacting a lot more than 1259 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,280 Speaker 1: he barely moves his head. 1260 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 2: Man all right. 1261 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,920 Speaker 5: Next one we learned this week Washington Wizard's rookie I 1262 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 5: had the pride of Kitchener. He can't say Kitchener's finest. 1263 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,959 Speaker 5: I guess because they now have one of those. Will 1264 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 5: Riley had a little pandemic side hustle cutting hair twenty 1265 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 5: dollars cuts five bucks. If you just want to line 1266 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 5: up guys, what's a tiny cottage industry. You could start 1267 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 5: today if you absolutely had two skeets. 1268 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 1: A fairly new development, a little side hustle I could do. 1269 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 1: I think I'd be good at pest control. 1270 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1271 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:30,120 Speaker 1: I've been dealing with some outdoor ants, not indoor. Keep 1272 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 1: them out, yeah, but a little too much around the porch. 1273 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 1: I really get invested in tracking them. I like to 1274 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:39,959 Speaker 1: see what they're doing. 1275 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 4: Where are they going? 1276 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, home exactly basically, I mean, yeah, where's your 1277 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 1: hill at that? I want to know where home is 1278 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 1: so we can take it out. So, you know, I 1279 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,320 Speaker 1: think I've learned a lot over the last a couple 1280 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 1: of weeks, and I've taken down taken down metropolitans. Also, yeah, 1281 01:01:59,040 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 1: have me over it all. 1282 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 5: Yeah wow, Yeah, you're pretty good at like just like 1283 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,040 Speaker 5: single handedly taking out bugs as well. 1284 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, right, if you fly, just have me over 1285 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 1: and now I'll get it. But I've yeah, I've now 1286 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 1: gotten into ants. Yeah. 1287 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 3: I saw uh an infomercial last night for something called 1288 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 3: the bug assault gun. It's like bug dash a dash 1289 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 3: S a l T. Because it's a gun that you 1290 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,480 Speaker 3: pumped full assault and shoot it at the crap and 1291 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,360 Speaker 3: it's like interesting, the power of the salt rifle kills 1292 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,600 Speaker 3: the bugs. That was crazy to me, but I was like, 1293 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 3: I would order that. 1294 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm just using a lot of traps that you know, 1295 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,000 Speaker 1: these dumb workers are going to take back to the 1296 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,040 Speaker 1: to the Queen, to the to the hive and kill everybody. 1297 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 1: And every time I drop one down, I'm like, holy crap, 1298 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,959 Speaker 1: have no idea, you stupid it. Like they're pumped right there, 1299 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 1: come flock into this stuff, and they must be like 1300 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 1: shuck put baby, like this stuff must taste awesome. They're 1301 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 1: rushing back who get it back there first? Little do 1302 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 1: they know it's gonna take out the whole entire population. 1303 01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:15,360 Speaker 2: Man, do you do the underground houses, homes, metropolitans because apparently, yeah, 1304 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,400 Speaker 2: they can get deep deep in there. Yeah, because we've 1305 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 2: had a bunch of we've had the issue. Bugs are 1306 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,640 Speaker 2: coming out from anywhere, but there's no visible Ah yeah 1307 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 2: yeah mountain. 1308 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,439 Speaker 1: I think they're under the porch and stuff like that. 1309 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 1: Like I'm not I'm not ripping up boards to go 1310 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 1: get them. Because this stuff works. It's incredible. It's like 1311 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,960 Speaker 1: give it a day and then you're like that trail 1312 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 1: of ants that you saw, they're gone. 1313 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:38,120 Speaker 2: Man. 1314 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 1: Wow, I'm like Santos, I'm like my fingers, take it out, civilizations. 1315 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:47,000 Speaker 4: It's cold. 1316 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 1: I know it's cold, man, but I don't want You're 1317 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,960 Speaker 1: getting too close, guys, Yeah, too close to the house. 1318 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:53,400 Speaker 4: Encroaching. You're encroaching. 1319 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 1: Now you out in the yard, you do you. I 1320 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 1: got no problem with it. I don't go searching for you. 1321 01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 1: But you're just getting closer to my fortune. 1322 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,880 Speaker 4: A tiny cottage industry you can start today if you have. 1323 01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 2: Actually will Will Riley doing his haircuts, that's also part 1324 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 2: of my algorithm. Like young people doing haircuts. Interesting, Yeah, 1325 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 2: people are doing. 1326 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,160 Speaker 3: It transformative, is it? Well? I mean you see something 1327 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,919 Speaker 3: that come in with a big old mob head of hair. 1328 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:22,320 Speaker 3: They got a sweet fade. 1329 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 2: You're like, wow, cool cool. 1330 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:25,400 Speaker 3: I've been algorithm by. 1331 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:25,720 Speaker 2: That as well. 1332 01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,760 Speaker 1: Our buddy, our buddy Ken did this for a lot 1333 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:30,680 Speaker 1: in high school. Yeah, I got my haircut. I can 1334 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 1: for years in his little, uh little side bathroom there. 1335 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,080 Speaker 1: He was making some money by the end of it, 1336 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,360 Speaker 1: big clientele, not stop people coming in. 1337 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 2: That was incredible, going to start his own algorithm. He 1338 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 2: also is eating seven thousand calories a day. I read 1339 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 2: that separately. Has nothing to do with haircuts. But he's 1340 01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,440 Speaker 2: trying to trying to bulke up seven thousand calories. That's 1341 01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:51,760 Speaker 2: a lot. 1342 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:56,640 Speaker 3: That's skinny, sky skinny. Yeah, to put it on. 1343 01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,200 Speaker 1: I thought he did look a little bigger last night. 1344 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, So what's your industry? Cuts? 1345 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:07,080 Speaker 2: Garden edging, like framing it, you know with those either 1346 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:08,920 Speaker 2: a plastic or metal framing. 1347 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 1: You've been doing something. 1348 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty easy you either either just can go 1349 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 2: jammer don't need anything like. 1350 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:17,960 Speaker 1: No, you don't hammer soft hammer. 1351 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 3: It's a Jammer hammer. 1352 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,520 Speaker 2: Gammer hammer. It's a great business name. 1353 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:23,960 Speaker 1: You're allowed to do that. 1354 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 2: And there's no way, no way you're allowed to do that. 1355 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,800 Speaker 2: You're gonna get You're incorrect, You're incorrect, JD. You think 1356 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,760 Speaker 2: that we can't have what was your first rule? No, 1357 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,920 Speaker 2: absolutely not allowed clothes lines. I guess that's questionable. 1358 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 1: That one's more of a you could argue as dumb 1359 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,680 Speaker 1: as it is. People be like that's an iore, Yeah. 1360 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 4: Of course. 1361 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:48,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1362 01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,920 Speaker 2: But this man I'm putting up, I'm putting up so 1363 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 2: much weird stuff I've got. I've got a huge what 1364 01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,880 Speaker 2: I call a baseball net behind my my house. It's 1365 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 2: not really a baseball net, just like it's like a 1366 01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:01,600 Speaker 2: soccer net. 1367 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, fifteen. 1368 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,840 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's an icehore to some people. I going 1369 01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,080 Speaker 2: to start putting up a playground for my kids. A 1370 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 2: boy that it is risky doing it. No, I don't. 1371 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,360 Speaker 2: I don't want one of those. I don't want to playground. 1372 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,320 Speaker 5: I want you to do it just to yeah, just 1373 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:20,800 Speaker 5: to see. 1374 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's been some problems. 1375 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 4: There has been some problems in my neighborhood. 1376 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, literally h o a calling back saying hey 1377 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,200 Speaker 2: hey hey you you literally as calling back. I mean 1378 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:36,160 Speaker 2: you literally have to undo what you did, undo a 1379 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,160 Speaker 2: deck or something like that. That's crazy. 1380 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, like you did 1381 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,600 Speaker 1: your you redid your deck at one point, Like did 1382 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,840 Speaker 1: you have to got okay and everything? 1383 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:54,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't did I know? Did I No? I 1384 01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 2: don't think I did. I wouldn't do that. I take 1385 01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:56,800 Speaker 2: it back. 1386 01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:57,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't see you doing that. 1387 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:02,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, because the rule, the rule for the the the 1388 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:07,040 Speaker 2: person who had to undo their their deck was that 1389 01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,600 Speaker 2: it was a you know that, there's a term for it. 1390 01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,960 Speaker 2: Essentially it's a water stopper, like it essentially doesn't allow 1391 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,960 Speaker 2: for water to penetrate to. 1392 01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 1: Go through it. 1393 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's insane. There's gaps, and so I 1394 01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,000 Speaker 2: think that's why I said, that's fine, you can put 1395 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,680 Speaker 2: up some some two by fours or whatever. Mine was wood. 1396 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:32,600 Speaker 2: Theirs was more of that the plastic, uh you know 1397 01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 2: those upgraded plastics or upcycled plastic type of stuff that's 1398 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:43,320 Speaker 2: still blowney. They're still there are still gaps. But anyway, 1399 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:50,200 Speaker 2: they didn't take it down. They did full deck. Well, yeah, yeah, 1400 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,120 Speaker 2: you go get it taken up or taken down as well. 1401 01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:55,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you see it? No? 1402 01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,640 Speaker 2: I didn't, Yeah, no, I actually I did. I fluid drone. 1403 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:04,240 Speaker 3: It was to. 1404 01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:06,760 Speaker 1: Measuring the gaps between the board. 1405 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,240 Speaker 3: That's thinking of water. 1406 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,880 Speaker 2: Are you going to drink water? Penetration trey. 1407 01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,320 Speaker 5: What's a tiny cottage industry you could start today if 1408 01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:15,200 Speaker 5: you absolutely had to. 1409 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,599 Speaker 3: Our pool doesn't have a concession stand. But I think 1410 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 3: I could run like a solid case of da shop 1411 01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,599 Speaker 3: out of like one of the back. 1412 01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:24,439 Speaker 1: Rooms teaching slang. 1413 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:24,559 Speaker 2: Wi. 1414 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good idea. Actually, I think case is 1415 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:30,680 Speaker 3: the way to go. Like you see him, you'll see 1416 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,599 Speaker 3: him at like a street festival or whatever. A guy 1417 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,759 Speaker 3: with the blackstone just whipping out case a das non stuff. 1418 01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,080 Speaker 3: It looked good to me. Yeah, yeah, I think I 1419 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:39,479 Speaker 3: could do that. 1420 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:45,960 Speaker 2: You're keeping it simple, keeping it. 1421 01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,519 Speaker 3: Same, same the poolboards talking about maybe putting one in 1422 01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,360 Speaker 3: the next year. So I got a lot of recipe 1423 01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:56,120 Speaker 3: testing to get different Jesus, different cheeses, different proteins, obviously 1424 01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,560 Speaker 3: different tortillas. I mean you're talking about all the components. 1425 01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought it was just a cheese. But if 1426 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:02,560 Speaker 2: you're throwing in protein. 1427 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:04,360 Speaker 3: I mean premium offering. 1428 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,639 Speaker 5: It's a perfect place to shoot your American slang right 1429 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:10,479 Speaker 5: in case it is. 1430 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 3: Jump call it a cannon ball, call it a c ball. 1431 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:19,639 Speaker 1: Cue balls, you can call them cue balls? 1432 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:20,720 Speaker 3: Sure, why not? 1433 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:28,320 Speaker 2: Sound could be implying cocaine though, you know. 1434 01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,320 Speaker 1: That type of c I want was to gi the 1435 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:32,320 Speaker 1: letter C A good point. 1436 01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:36,519 Speaker 5: Billiards too, all right, last one, guys. Tyrese Haliburton jumped 1437 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:40,519 Speaker 5: on Next this week and asked what's you'll favorite movie 1438 01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 5: sequel of all time? 1439 01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,599 Speaker 4: His picks down of the Planet of the Apes and. 1440 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 5: Sister Acts Too Many immediately followed up I'm sorry, go ahead, 1441 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,240 Speaker 5: and he immediately followed it up with forgot the Dark 1442 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,400 Speaker 5: Knight is a sequel? Shaking my head has to be 1443 01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,920 Speaker 5: on the list. Sorry, Tyree. See you said, Sister two 1444 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,719 Speaker 5: that bell cannot be unwrung. So, guys, what's your favorite 1445 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,240 Speaker 5: movie sequel of all time? 1446 01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:07,719 Speaker 4: Skits? 1447 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,639 Speaker 1: I think there are three obvious answers here, much better 1448 01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,439 Speaker 1: than I think the list that Terry Telibert was doing there, 1449 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:18,120 Speaker 1: The Godfather Part two, sure, Terminator two, Yes, and my 1450 01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 1: personal favorite and my answer, Back to the Future Part two. 1451 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:22,120 Speaker 3: Wow. 1452 01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,599 Speaker 1: I love Back to the Future Part two. 1453 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,639 Speaker 5: Me too, but I kind of you need three with 1454 01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,280 Speaker 5: it though, no, or just the middle chat. 1455 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,439 Speaker 1: I don't need three with it. I mean it's a trilogy, 1456 01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 1: so I will watch it and still enjoy it. But 1457 01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:35,400 Speaker 1: I do love Back to the. 1458 01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:36,000 Speaker 4: Future Part two. 1459 01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 1: That's great. It is great time travel story. Yeah, man, 1460 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 1: But those are the to me, the three obvious ones. 1461 01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,640 Speaker 2: There's a lot of other ones too, And if I 1462 01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,679 Speaker 2: had your answer, if I knew your answer, I could 1463 01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,920 Speaker 2: have putten up that I still as soon as you said, 1464 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,639 Speaker 2: I have that photo of you and the Dolorean. This 1465 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:53,320 Speaker 2: is way back. 1466 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,200 Speaker 1: You have a photo of me and a door. 1467 01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like a DeLorean from Toronto. 1468 01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:02,800 Speaker 1: Oh wow, hey send me that pick it probably is. 1469 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,439 Speaker 1: I assume it is. I guess sometimes you see them 1470 01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:12,759 Speaker 1: around late night photos. It's super dark wow anyway from Toronto. 1471 01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I still have it. I I'm a hoarder. Uh, 1472 01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:28,679 Speaker 2: I don't think. I swear. I didn't know. The second 1473 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:33,040 Speaker 2: part of this answer was The Batman Dark Knight. I 1474 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,320 Speaker 2: didn't I didn't even read that, but that was my answer. 1475 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:36,599 Speaker 2: It's The Dark Knight. 1476 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, very good sequel, very good. 1477 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is that is the great one I once 1478 01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,040 Speaker 2: stood out to me. That's my pick. 1479 01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,400 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, a lot of good sequels out there. You 1480 01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,639 Speaker 3: guys have named a bunch of them. Like official answer, 1481 01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:54,360 Speaker 3: I would probably say The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, 1482 01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,080 Speaker 3: but I don't really think of it as a sequel. 1483 01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:57,679 Speaker 3: But it's an awesome movie, and it is a part 1484 01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,599 Speaker 3: of a trilogy. It's the third one. So instead I'll 1485 01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:04,960 Speaker 3: pick National Treasure Book of Secrets, which I just watched 1486 01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,040 Speaker 3: this week. My sister was like, are you gonna watch 1487 01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:08,960 Speaker 3: an American movie for Fourth of July. I was like, yeah, 1488 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 3: of course, Independence Day, so I watched it, but you 1489 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,080 Speaker 3: should also watch National Treasure. I was like, National Treasure 1490 01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,240 Speaker 3: is so dumb, Like the climax of the original National 1491 01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:24,479 Speaker 3: Treasure involves wearing Ben Franklin's five D glasses. It was 1492 01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,479 Speaker 3: so dumb. I'm like, okay, I'll watch Book of Secrets. 1493 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,840 Speaker 3: Book of Secrets was pretty good, really, and it ended 1494 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,000 Speaker 3: on a cliff an hear that it was legitimately like, 1495 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,240 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna find that what's on page forty seven 1496 01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:37,920 Speaker 3: of the Book of Secrets. 1497 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:38,599 Speaker 1: Wow? 1498 01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:39,000 Speaker 5: Wow? 1499 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,439 Speaker 3: So I don't know what they're up to, but I 1500 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,240 Speaker 3: enjoyed it. I couldn't believe I enjoyed Book of Secrets, 1501 01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 3: National Treasure. 1502 01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:50,200 Speaker 1: There's another one coming then if it ended what. 1503 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,320 Speaker 3: They did it, I think they did a series series. Yeah. 1504 01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,320 Speaker 3: I don't know if they addressed page forty seven. But 1505 01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:59,120 Speaker 3: Nick's not back now, And if Benjamin Gates isn't finding 1506 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,519 Speaker 3: the artifle, I'm not in because I wasn't actually really 1507 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,519 Speaker 3: in It's a Book of Secrets, but I had to 1508 01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,439 Speaker 3: do it for my sister, and I was pleasantly surprised. 1509 01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 1: All right, treasure that is Nick ky? 1510 01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:10,760 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1511 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:12,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeahkay, in both, he's in both. 1512 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:13,599 Speaker 3: He's in both. 1513 01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, JD. 1514 01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:16,719 Speaker 1: Do you have an answer to this with a movie? 1515 01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:16,960 Speaker 4: Guys? 1516 01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1517 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,680 Speaker 5: The Wrath of khn is probably my favorite sequel. Other 1518 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:22,720 Speaker 5: than I'm Para strikes back. 1519 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,960 Speaker 4: But Wrath of Cohn is so. 1520 01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:29,439 Speaker 5: Far beyond Star Trek the motion picture, like it's just 1521 01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:33,920 Speaker 5: a completely reinvents the whole thing, you. 1522 01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:34,320 Speaker 4: Know what I mean. 1523 01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 1: So well, in doing a little research, I did see 1524 01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,840 Speaker 1: Superman two was on some people's list. 1525 01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:43,040 Speaker 4: That's crazy. 1526 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I was a little shocked. I bring 1527 01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,720 Speaker 1: that up because coming next week, next Friday, we are 1528 01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:54,880 Speaker 1: going to be pitching our movie franchises for what we 1529 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,200 Speaker 1: might do this summer as part of our film franchise 1530 01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:02,479 Speaker 1: Rewatch and Review. We've done Fast and Furious franchise, We've 1531 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,120 Speaker 1: done Jurassic Park, We're doing a new one. We're each 1532 01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:09,600 Speaker 1: gonna come to the table with a different franchise and 1533 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,720 Speaker 1: uh and pitch it to each other and to you 1534 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:13,160 Speaker 1: because you're gonna be able to vote on it. So 1535 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,679 Speaker 1: Superman is involved, Yes, I said, podcast JD's pitching that one. 1536 01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,120 Speaker 4: So they got gathering. 1537 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:24,200 Speaker 1: They they got way too many, way too many. So 1538 01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:25,880 Speaker 1: that's that's next Friday. I'll be a lot of fun, 1539 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,240 Speaker 1: a little different obviously outside of the NBA content. Otherwise, though, 1540 01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:33,680 Speaker 1: we're back on Monday, I guess gearing up for hopefully 1541 01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:37,240 Speaker 1: the official Kawhi Leonard Trade. It's Tuesday, right, the Board 1542 01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:41,080 Speaker 1: of Governor's meeting. Yeah, I'm sure we'll talk a little 1543 01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,719 Speaker 1: bit more about Summer League, everything else happening in the NBA. 1544 01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,639 Speaker 1: You're off though, for a vacation, a little time with them. 1545 01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll miss a couple of shows next week. 1546 01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:53,519 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, but we will be here Monday. Wednesday 1547 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,320 Speaker 1: is the plan. Friday is the movie franchise pitching podcast. 1548 01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,799 Speaker 1: So we'll love content for you. Hit the like button, subscribe, 1549 01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,479 Speaker 1: five star ratings and reviews until then, Clipper bro, you 1550 01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:03,800 Speaker 1: heard it. 1551 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,400 Speaker 3: Here first, have a great time, turn up. Love you 1552 01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:07,840 Speaker 3: guys awesome. 1553 01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:12,080 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. And remember Jerry Bruckheimer produced National 1554 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,839 Speaker 2: Treasure Book of Secrets, and I just I'm just plugging 1555 01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:21,679 Speaker 2: my series that I'll be pitching. Yeah, it's aim Yeah, 1556 01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 2: love me some Bruckheimer's apparently. 1557 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:26,639 Speaker 1: Brace the day, people,