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Speaker 1: There he is into the World Series, right, Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do World Series first. We've covered that story

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Speaker 1: a lot, and we'll definitely get Kip's perspective there. Before

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Speaker 1: we charge Kip, we're gonna talk more. I guess we

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Speaker 1: talk about Boba Schett and how you try and welcome

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Speaker 1: pitching pairing to start the series for the Dodgers. You

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Speaker 1: know what, let's just charge and then we'll put Kip

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Speaker 1: we know that the Dodgers are rolling out the same

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Speaker 1: n I'll see because you know that worked out pretty

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Speaker 1: well for them to Kip. So it's Blake's Snell in

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Speaker 1: game one and it's Yamamoto in game two. First off,

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on what they're rolling out from a starting

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope Toronto welcomes Bo Bashad back better than

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Speaker 2: you guys welcome me back. Just throwing me right into

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Speaker 2: the fire, just right into the deep end, immediately, hold on.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, before we get into the pitching.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask you the question then, because because I said,

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Speaker 4: I don't even know if you can welcome Bo back,

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Speaker 3: How hard is that transition before we even dig into

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Speaker 2: Uh, that would be an uncomfortable transition for anybody to

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Speaker 2: I do welcome him back, maybe a little bit more

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Speaker 2: I mean, what do we mean by welcoming back? Like

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Speaker 2: he's one of the better players. He's in You're already

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Speaker 2: probably the underdog in this series, and he's an X

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Speaker 2: So I think you're going for it if you welcome

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Speaker 1: Think the key here that we've been discussing is George Springer.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the comments to what we bring up

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Speaker 2: Yes, But at the same time, like think about I'm

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Speaker 5: You'll have enough. It's a World Series.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have enough adrenaline and enough doctors on hand,

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Speaker 3: Know, it's just it's just, you know, Kip.

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Speaker 4: In twenty sixteen, when Kyle Schwarber came back for the

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Speaker 4: Actual game reps at shortstop. He's not getting game rep

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Speaker 2: I think if you if you, if you don't start him,

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Speaker 2: If these are your first at bats back, good luck.

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Speaker 5: It's just I.

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Speaker 2: If you're not getting anything maybe from I KF or

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you got to read you have to you're

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Speaker 2: Kid, Yeah, and I, but I also don't want to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess fair, And I.

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Speaker 1: Know Barger can play third man. He's played really well infield.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that I would want to mess with that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the fly ball percentage is, but

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Speaker 1: other notes from the series. Mike Petriello putting out some statistics.

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Speaker 1: that's historical information to point out how good the Dodgers

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there are more facing the Dodgers pitching either, right,

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Speaker 4: Show, Hey, Glass now they don't give up damage a lot,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the thing also is, Kip, you need a

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Speaker 1: They're not going to do that every single start. Y'amamoto

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Speaker 1: Tennessee head coach Tony Vaytello is now going to be

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Speaker 4: I don't know care if you're gonna have talk on this.

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Speaker 3: There's none of that. You get what you get in college.

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Speaker 3: You get to pick the players. Man.

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Speaker 4: You get to say I'm recruiting you, and I'm recruiting you,

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Speaker 1: And it's short term too. In college, I mean in

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to play out. It's going to

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Speaker 2: Murph is a players manager. He is someone who gets

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Speaker 5: Thoughts on this right back to you.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's who we don't know. The most fascinating thing

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Speaker 2: Little bit to me, And I don't want to discredit

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Speaker 4: Well, you go for making all the decisions to making

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Speaker 2: But it'll still be a players guy that that enjoys

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Speaker 2: it and looks like he's had success wherever he's gone

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Speaker 2: So when you can check that box, front office sees

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Speaker 5: The hiring makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that can only take you so far being

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Speaker 4: That's to me is you have to have that Joe

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Speaker 2: to the college game. But I do like someone with

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Speaker 2: managerial experience over maybe say a former player to start

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Speaker 2: right away.

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Speaker 4: My two cents, The biggest thing is who's he gonna hire.

440
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Speaker 4: Who's he gonna hire as a coach. That's a huge thing.

441
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Speaker 4: I've got to have veteran coaches, right He's guys, have

442
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Speaker 4: a veteran bench coach, veteran pitching coaches, Guys that have

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Speaker 4: been around.

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Speaker 3: Because if he just goes out and says, oh, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Just gonna bring my Tennessee staff over here, and they're like, hey,

446
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Speaker 4: spring training starts next week.

447
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Speaker 3: What's the plan.

448
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Speaker 4: Oh, well, just scrimmage every day like they do in college.

449
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Speaker 4: Like that's not how it works exactly, you know, like

450
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Speaker 4: that's where it's gonna be. How do I run a bullpen?

451
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Speaker 4: You know, in the big leagues you have twenty six guys.

452
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Speaker 4: In college you have well, it used to be like

453
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Speaker 4: forty guys. Now it's not a thirty six inning. Yeah,

454
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Speaker 4: so many more options. You know, guys only pitch once

455
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Speaker 4: a week. Who do I set up here and there?

456
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Speaker 4: I'm not I don't have to recruit guy. I don't

457
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Speaker 4: know it's gonna It's fascinating to me. This is a

458
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Speaker 4: fascinating hire, good or bad, however it works out.

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Speaker 1: Here's the one thing where I disagree with people that say,

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Speaker 1: why would he lead there? I mean, he's a coach

461
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Speaker 1: slash manager. Just because he's doing this successfully at Tennessee

462
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Speaker 1: for years doesn't mean that he doesn't have goals of

463
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Speaker 1: being a big league manager and winning a World Series.

464
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Speaker 1: How many kids grow up and say I want to

465
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Speaker 1: win a World Series versus how many kids grow up

466
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Speaker 1: and say I want to win a college World Series.

467
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Speaker 1: You always start with World Series. So I don't want

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Speaker 1: to discount that part, Kip. I mean, is he taking

469
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Speaker 1: a pay cut? Maybe probably right according to the report,

470
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Speaker 1: but he might have gotten more than three years, so

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Speaker 1: there's still some security there. And he spent eight seasons

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Speaker 1: already at Tennessee. He's won there, like you kind of

473
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Speaker 1: accomplished it all. You have to deal with more of

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Speaker 1: the nil crap now, which a lot of college coaches

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Speaker 1: that have a lot of power get pissed about. So

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Speaker 1: it makes sense to me. You get to be under

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Speaker 1: Buster Posey, who is a very different front office exec

478
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Speaker 1: from most of the others. And he played and he

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Speaker 1: has a lot of respect for the college game. He

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Speaker 1: loved his time at FSU. So to me, it all

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Speaker 1: adds up. It makes sense. And here's the cherry on

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Speaker 1: top for me, Ki Tony Vytello is going to be

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Speaker 1: known forever as the guy that did this, and if

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Speaker 1: he does this successfully, he will pave the way for

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Speaker 1: others to do this and will be a pioneer. That's cool.

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Speaker 1: That's a legacy building moment.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't question at all why he's doing it.

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Speaker 2: I completely understand his side. I comp it is such

489
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Speaker 2: a big jump, and like you said, the personal goals

490
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Speaker 2: and aspirations and you want to be a World Series

491
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Speaker 2: manager and you want to be a major league manager.

492
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Speaker 2: The guy's taking a pay cut to do it. That

493
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Speaker 2: is absolutely The goal is to get to the big

494
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Speaker 2: leagues in any aspect of the sport. So no, I

495
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Speaker 2: don't question why Vitel's doing it. And there will be

496
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Speaker 2: the entire rest of the league will be watching how

497
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Speaker 2: this plays out to see if it can work or not,

498
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Speaker 2: and then that'll open up the floodgates to more college

499
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Speaker 2: coaches maybe doing it down the road if this works out.

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Speaker 1: Let's take you through the arena club slab pack experience.

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Speaker 1: This is part two because Todd Father last week pulled

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Speaker 1: a card that he didn't love, yet he sold it

503
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Speaker 1: back for actually more than what the slab pack cost.

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Speaker 1: This time pulls a card that he likes.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and this is the best part of it. Ronnie

506
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Speaker 7: Mauricio and Me's stand out, you know, rookie sensation. He's

507
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Speaker 7: been absolutely phenomenal. I like the itch of seeing what

508
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Speaker 7: you're gonna get, you know, I like prospects I don't

509
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Speaker 7: love them, but seeing this kind of card is actually

510
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Speaker 7: absolutely beautiful thing. I know a couple people around town

511
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Speaker 7: that would absolutely love that card. So there's gonna be

512
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Speaker 7: a lot of conversations going on here for Arena Club.

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Speaker 1: And what you do is you have it in your

514
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Speaker 1: digital showroom. If you want to hand it out locally,

515
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Speaker 1: then cool. You ask Arena Club to send it to

516
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Speaker 1: you and they do, or you can sell it back

517
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Speaker 1: like you see there instant offer for one hundred and

518
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Speaker 1: ninety three bucks. But he's keeping it, And you can

519
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Speaker 1: do what Todd father does by going to Arena club

520
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Speaker 1: dot com slash foul and getting twenty percent off your

521
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Speaker 1: first card purchase or your first slab pack purchase. What

522
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Speaker 1: do you think is going to be the toughest thing

523
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Speaker 1: for him at the jump? Like Lancelyn's on this show

524
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Speaker 1: sometimes and I heard him the other day on the

525
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Speaker 1: radio say that the speech in spring training for him

526
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Speaker 1: actually matters more than most because it's different and you

527
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Speaker 1: just want to hear what he has to say and

528
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Speaker 1: just the way that he's perceived right from the jump

529
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Speaker 1: in spring training, like, hey, let's give this guy a chance.

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Speaker 1: He has had a lot of success. Do you think

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Speaker 1: that you know something in spring training really matters, Like

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Speaker 1: what's the moment where it's going to be like, Okay,

533
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Speaker 1: he's got these guys.

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Speaker 5: I think he's going to be good at that.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be more comes down to

536
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Speaker 2: what AJ was saying, more about running a bullpen, running

537
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Speaker 2: an organization, almost a big league team for the first time,

538
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Speaker 2: rather than a college team. I think the differences of those,

539
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Speaker 2: I think is what it's going to come down to.

540
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Speaker 2: I think he'll get the room behind him and with

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Speaker 2: a good speech, and he'll have the respect of the

542
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Speaker 2: guys by it before the season starts. But it'll be

543
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Speaker 2: interested to see maybe in that first month, let's say

544
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Speaker 2: April comes around, and you see maybe make a couple

545
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Speaker 2: wrong moves or put in the wrong guys, or start

546
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Speaker 2: different players that aren't supposed to be starting. It's like

547
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Speaker 2: that's when you'll start to question it. But going into it,

548
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Speaker 2: I think he'll be He'll be fine with getting the

549
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Speaker 2: team behind him.

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Speaker 4: I just I think it starts now. The minute he's hired.

551
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Speaker 4: He's gonna start having to reach out to guys. I

552
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Speaker 4: feel like he's gonna start reaching out to Logan Web

553
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Speaker 4: and Raffie Devers and Williadomas and getting getting them on

554
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Speaker 4: his side. You know, I mentioned Robin Ventura before. One

555
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Speaker 4: of the things I think where Robin messed up is

556
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Speaker 4: my I was there his first year. He didn't call

557
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Speaker 4: anybody in the offseason because he's like, oh, I didn't

558
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Speaker 4: want to see act people like I was playing favorites

559
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Speaker 4: or anything. I'm like, dude, you should have reached out

560
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Speaker 4: to me and Canerko and some of the veteran guys

561
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Speaker 4: that had been around for a while to like see

562
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Speaker 4: what we're thinking and what we like and this and that.

563
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Speaker 4: He's like, well, I wanted to go into spring training

564
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Speaker 4: with a clean slate, Like no, like go into it

565
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Speaker 4: and say, hey, listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna call Raffie Devers.

566
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna call Logan web I'm gonna call Willia Damas.

567
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna call Matt Chapman, I'm gonna call Patrick Bailey.

568
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna call these guys that I know I'm gonna

569
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Speaker 4: be counting on and get and get their feelings and

570
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Speaker 4: what they what they need from me as a manager,

571
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Speaker 4: and then go from there.

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Speaker 1: You know, the first thing I'm doing if I'm him

573
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Speaker 1: once I sign, after I get acclimated with the team

574
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Speaker 1: and the organization, flying to the dr and having lunch

575
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Speaker 1: with Ruffia.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, get to know those guys.

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Speaker 1: Hey, dude, you're a big guy. I saw what they

578
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Speaker 1: did to you in Boston. Not my vibe. I'm a

579
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Speaker 1: player's guy. I know what this means. Even though I

580
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Speaker 1: didn't play, I think they did it wrong. And play

581
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Speaker 1: to what.

582
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Speaker 3: He wants, right, That's what I'm saying.

583
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Speaker 1: How hard is that team will fly you there and

584
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Speaker 1: take them out to lunch.

585
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Speaker 2: That'll go a long way with your relationship with your team.

586
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Speaker 2: Doing just even a phone call like that.

587
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Speaker 1: Absolutely Okay, cool, Well, it'll be exciting, fun storyline to

588
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Speaker 1: watch this giant fessturassing. The Giants have become relevant. They

589
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Speaker 1: were even this year they were five hundred, but they

590
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Speaker 1: are more relevant now. They were kind of stuck in

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Speaker 1: the mud in my mind for several years after that

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one season. It's like, eh, and I think

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Speaker 1: Buster Posey has made this Is.

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Speaker 3: This gonna be more of a Bruce Bochie higher or

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Speaker 3: a Gabe caplor.

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Speaker 1: Hire you'll find out, or a little bit in between,

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Speaker 1: but attendance was up big in San Francisco. I give

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Speaker 1: credit to Buster Posey for bringing in stars that people

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Speaker 1: actually want to watch and they can buy some jerseys.

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Speaker 1: Hey render to everyone. The Playmaker's Classic is happening on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: February eighteenth, twenty twenty six. Four hundred plus packed the

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Speaker 1: event last year, including one hundred current Big leaguer's, former pros,

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Speaker 1: and future stars. This is an opportunity to be close

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Speaker 1: to those players and also, as Will Benson brought up

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Speaker 1: the other day and he'll be there, you get to

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Speaker 1: talk to players about whatever's going on in your world,

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Speaker 1: including any charity initiatives that you have. So I think

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Speaker 1: it's a really cool opportunity to, you know, be around

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Speaker 1: people that want to do good things for the community,

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Speaker 1: and this event is a really cool way to pull

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Speaker 1: that off. Kip, you know Arizona quite well. It's also

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Speaker 1: a good time down there in downtown.

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Speaker 5: Some good golf, perfect golf weather around that time too.

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Speaker 1: M h. Spring training obviously, so you can go to

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Speaker 1: camps right around. It's like right before when games start

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Speaker 1: and players are it's like the perfect time. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: get good access there because the players aren't even playing games.

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Speaker 1: Yet they kind of do their thing and then they're

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Speaker 1: excited to be there, so they'll go. You know, they'll

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Speaker 1: be like the roped off areas and they'll spend time there,

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Speaker 1: especially appreciating that people are there before the game starts. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: if you want to check all of that out, go

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Speaker 1: for it. Playmakers Classic. We'll talk more about it as

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Speaker 1: we move along here in the off season, and we'll

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Speaker 1: bring on other players that will be in attendance. Playmakers Classic,

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Speaker 1: More Information Players Trust dot Org. Let's move on here

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Speaker 1: while we have a minute. What did I see here?

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Speaker 1: A little note on Bolpi, the most talked about ady

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Speaker 1: ops plus of all time. Chris Kershner with the tweet,

630
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Speaker 1: spoke with an orthopedic surgeon about a surgery. Big takeaways

631
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Speaker 1: that would happen immediately after the quarter zone injections probably

632
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Speaker 1: indicates how much his shoulder affected his season. That that also

633
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Speaker 1: means excuses are now over. I disagree. Which has been

634
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Speaker 1: the same player for three years. It is the same

635
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Speaker 1: player for three years, Kip. He's also now going to

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Speaker 1: be coming off shoulder surgery, which is actually always almost

637
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Speaker 1: always an issue for players often coming off shoulder surgery

638
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Speaker 1: as a bat is usually an issue, And where the

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Speaker 1: hell were the Yankees on this not realizing that his

640
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Speaker 1: shoulders messed up and it was causing a problem. Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. This whole story is trash to me,

642
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Speaker 1: and if I'm a Yankee fan, yeah, I want to

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Speaker 1: move on.

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Speaker 5: Do I think it affected him?

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Speaker 2: Yes, But I think if you're good enough to play,

646
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Speaker 2: that means you're good enough to hit BP, hitting the cage,

647
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Speaker 2: work on your craft, and you find what works for

648
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Speaker 2: you that day. So I think this struggle was more

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Speaker 2: than just a soldier shoulder surgery explanation.

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Speaker 5: So, like you said, it's been going on for a while.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Kip eighty one, eighty six and eighty three. That's

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Speaker 4: his ops plus his first three years in the big leagues.

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Speaker 2: He just yeah, I mean we saw how good he

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Speaker 2: can be when he plays well. Obviously, anybody it's a

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Speaker 2: no brainer comment, But I just yeah, No, it's there's

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Speaker 2: enough stats now behind it where something's off or something.

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Speaker 4: Or he's an eighty or ops plus guy the.

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Speaker 1: Guy, Hey, we have a tweet on World Series ticket pricing.

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Speaker 1: Joe Pompliano does a lot of sports bids. He's been

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Speaker 1: on this show. He said, World Series tickets are currently

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Speaker 1: more expensive in Toronto than in LA. Current get in

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00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: prices Game one eight to seventy five, Game two nine

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Speaker 1: sixty three. Get in prices doesn't necessarily tell you the

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Speaker 1: whole story, of course, but if you want to just

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Speaker 1: get into the building, this is what it looks like.

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Speaker 1: Game three seven eighty eight, Game four seven fifty, Game

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Speaker 1: five seven eighty seven. Those are the three in LA.

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Speaker 1: Then back to Toronto, You're you're looking at close to

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Speaker 1: a grand just to get into the building for what

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming is standing room only.

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Speaker 3: I know a guy that can get us in.

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Speaker 4: Kevin Pilar, Kevin Polar walk in Superman poss that's right.

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Speaker 1: Say I have five of my foul territory.

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Speaker 3: Fronts, I have five of my Justice leaguers. Let us in.

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Speaker 1: Random, But I heard the previous Superman that just came

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Speaker 1: out like gets he gets like beat up the whole time.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's Superman. How can anybody beat up?

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Speaker 1: So I haven't seen Polar should take over. I'll send

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Speaker 1: you something that was really funny on it. Anyway, this

681
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Speaker 1: makes sense, right, Toronto hasn't seen this. I mean you

682
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Speaker 1: played for a team that hadn't experienced this, so you

683
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Speaker 1: can speak to what this is like. The Blue Jays

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Speaker 1: haven't won since ninety three. The Guardians have never won,

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Speaker 1: slash Indians or not since what.

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Speaker 3: I played for a team that didn't win for eighty

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Speaker 3: eight years.

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Speaker 1: Dude, I forgot about you, you're O.

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Speaker 3: I forgot about me. Sorry, Kip, I mean you're like

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Speaker 3: in the.

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Speaker 1: Favorite Cleveland didn't win. I mean you guys won.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it had been eighty eight years, longer than the

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Speaker 4: Red Sox. But kIPS on that track with the Guardians

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Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 5: Anyways, World Series prices are.

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Speaker 4: What was the year for Cleveland forty seven forty A

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Speaker 4: forty seven, Kip.

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Speaker 5: Eight forty eight, forty eight.

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Speaker 1: Forty eight, I was way off last title in forty

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Speaker 1: eight seventy seven seasons.

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Speaker 4: They're chasing down them Bear up there, they're chasing down

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Speaker 4: them Covey Bears.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Maybe if they change back to the Cleveland Spiders they

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Speaker 3: would win.

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Speaker 5: I actually did like the Cleveland Spiders.

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Speaker 3: Should they still should have gone for the Steamers. I'm

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Speaker 3: just saying.

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Speaker 1: Guardians business train. There's last on my list.

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Speaker 5: What I don't like off topic, guys.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, but in the breaks in the commercial breaks. We're

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Speaker 1: allowed to do this.

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Speaker 3: This is a commercial. We just we just fuck around

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Speaker 3: the Cleveland Steamers.

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Speaker 4: Because of the boats in the in the in the

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Speaker 4: train that runs through there.

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Speaker 3: It should have been.

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Speaker 1: for yourself how money it is in the weeds. Let's

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Speaker 1: bring this up from you know, sorry, right from the jump, here.

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Speaker 1: I know for the production team mind scenes, if you

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Speaker 1: can bring up that tweet from you know, I'm curious

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Speaker 1: to get the player perspective here and to push it forward.

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Speaker 1: So he wrote about how the Mariners had twenty five

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Speaker 1: instances where a reliever was seeing a hitter for the

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Speaker 1: third time in a series, including when Bizardo saw George

742
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Speaker 1: Springer for the third time in the ALCS. He said,

743
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers have had one. Now, I think there's important

744
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: context here. The Dodgers don't have to use their relievers

745
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Speaker 1: as much in the playoffs because their starters goes.

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Speaker 3: And they've won every series very easily.

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Speaker 1: There's that, But regardless, I do want to get your take,

748
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Speaker 1: like you're seeing the same reliever over and over again.

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Speaker 1: How much of a factor is that? And clearly there

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Speaker 1: are front offices that should be game planning. Hey, this

751
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: hitter has seen this picture this many times. Eventually it's

752
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: going to click. So let's try to avoid that, right, Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: no matter who it.

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Speaker 3: Is, I mean, you should do this in the in

755
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 3: the regular season. Kid Kip knows this.

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Speaker 4: When you played teams nineteen times, you get the same

757
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: lefty ten times in a year and you're like, Okay,

758
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Speaker 4: I bet you I'm.

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Speaker 3: Gonna figure out how to get some kind of hit

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Speaker 3: off this guy. Do something off this guy.

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Speaker 1: You know, I used to call Mets spring training games

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Speaker 1: for U S and Y, and I remember multiple times

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Speaker 1: we thought that there was going to be one starter

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Speaker 1: and then they were like, nope, Mets are playing the

765
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: Phillies today. They're having him pitch in the B game

766
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Speaker 1: or in the back or whatever because they just don't

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Speaker 1: want him to see them and what he looks like

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Speaker 1: in spring training coming up.

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Speaker 2: So it's all it's all just more information for the hitter.

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Speaker 2: Think about like a long at bat. He's getting more

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Speaker 2: and more information every pitch. Now, just multiply that when

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Speaker 2: he has more and more at bats versus the guy

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Speaker 2: then and if he's like ag said, if he's tried

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Speaker 2: new things, if he tried ambushing this time, if he

775
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: tried sitting curveball on the left on left this time,

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Speaker 2: he's just he's gathering information and data, and he's if

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Speaker 2: you don't want it to be in the playoffs, if

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Speaker 2: you're the pitcher where here's a hitter, he might might

779
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: have finally found the answer to how to get a

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Speaker 2: hit off you, And that's where Aja is saying, it's

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Speaker 2: just there's sometimes it's just time where he's due, He's

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Speaker 2: he tried everything else.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to give a hit or too much information.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So how do we spin this forward to you

785
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: the World Series? Like? Is there anything you should keep

786
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: in mind? My big thing on the Blue Jay side

787
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: is to use that variety. I don't think that there's

788
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: a clear cut circle of trust for John Schneider. So

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Speaker 1: I know I pushed this the other day with you,

790
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: but I'm like, let me see a little Kevin Gossman

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Speaker 1: out of the bullpen on his throat. Ay, let me

792
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: see Bassett a little bit more frequently, Like, let's just

793
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: keep throwing different things at the Dodgers. I don't want

794
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: the same game plan middle innings every time from Toronto.

795
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Speaker 1: You know, every day Louis Varland is going to give

796
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Speaker 1: up some dingers. If he's pitching every game in an

797
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: extended series like this, that's been the case. It's a trend.

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Speaker 4: I hate to bring this up for Kip, but like

799
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Speaker 4: Andrew Miller in twenty sixteen, he already mentioned it like

800
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Speaker 4: they I mean, Francona wore him out even a rolled

801
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 4: as Chatman got worn out until and when Raja hit.

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Speaker 3: The home run.

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Speaker 4: He was worn out because he don't if they're pitch

804
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Speaker 4: him every game in multiple innings. It was like, dude,

805
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 4: at some point, you gotta give these guys a break.

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Speaker 5: It affected both. It affected both.

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Speaker 2: H Miller shouldn't have thrown in game five and Chapman

808
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: shouldn't have thrown in Game six. I think we were

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Speaker 2: a static that we came back enough to get Chapman

810
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Speaker 2: into the game, even though we still ended up losing

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Speaker 2: six and seven, but we got him into the game

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Speaker 2: on six, and we felt like that was a win

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00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: in and of itself right there, because he was gonna

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Speaker 2: be more tired. More guys would have seen him then.

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Speaker 2: So there are those little things where you just and

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00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: you got to have the two different pitchers. You got

817
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Speaker 2: to have one who can get you an out and

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Speaker 2: one when.

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Speaker 5: You need a strikeout. So are there are different ones

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Speaker 5: there too?

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Speaker 1: You know who I just thought of. We might have

822
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Speaker 1: brought him up once a while back on the show.

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Speaker 1: But remember Brandon Morow for the Dodgers.

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Speaker 3: There's a blue jac Yeah, but he pitched for the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: He was a blue Jay. At one point. But he

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Speaker 1: pitched for the Dodgers in what was it the twenty

827
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Speaker 1: seventeen World Series I believe, right, never came back. Yeah

828
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Speaker 1: against the Astros. Right, well, then yeah, he got ended

829
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Speaker 1: up getting hurt. And he did say afterward that you know,

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Speaker 1: he was also feeling it a little. I mean, they were,

831
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Speaker 1: they were going to him every game, and then he

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Speaker 1: wasn't feeling like he had this stuff for one of

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Speaker 1: those games.

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Speaker 3: That's what Matt Brash looked like for the Blue Jays

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Speaker 3: at the end.

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Speaker 1: I'm running out of gas, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean for the Mariners. Yeah, that's why he didn't pitched

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Speaker 3: instead of bizarre.

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Speaker 1: Though, they pitched him the day before.

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Speaker 4: What I'm saying, but he looked tired, right, some of

841
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Speaker 4: these guys get tired. Man, you pitch, they don't pitch

842
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Speaker 4: as much. If you talk to a manager and keep

843
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 4: you knows we talk to your managers, I'd be like, oh,

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Speaker 4: he's thrown.

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Speaker 3: Three out of four.

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Speaker 4: Definitely giving him the day off when the playoffs are

847
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Speaker 4: like okay, well you can give me one day. You

848
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 4: can go four out of five. Men, he pitched in

849
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Speaker 4: four out of five days regular season, they just were like, hey,

850
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 4: don't even take spikes. Today, we're not you're not we'll

851
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 4: give up this game. You're down to Yeah, you're down.

852
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: But in the playoffs and then they have to try

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00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 3: to get it up, that's.

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Speaker 2: Where it's the most important. Uh, the managerially use of

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Speaker 2: a bullpen comes into play. The biggest is the playoffs

856
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Speaker 2: and especially the World Series. Now you can get away

857
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: with stuff during the regular season, you guys down because

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00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 2: no and no, nobody's going to say no, No pitcher

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00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: is going to be like I'm hanging today in the postseason.

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00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: So you're always going to have use of everyone. But

861
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 2: it just comes down to how the manager works the bullpen,

862
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: which Stringsy pulls.

863
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: Mara pitching fourteen out of the Dodgers fifteen playoff games

864
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. That was his sanity, the trash Can Astros.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it was five.

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Speaker 3: He was hurt before that.

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Speaker 1: He was hurt before, I mean the history of his

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Speaker 1: whole career. And then yeah, that was his moment. In

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the playoffs, he was money for them,

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Speaker 1: and I think he started to wear down of course,

871
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: and then also, I mean World Series twenty seventeen. There's

872
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot to it. There. I mean the game

873
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: five that he pitched in where he gave up like

874
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: four or five runs. That game was thirteen twelve exactly

875
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: twenty five runs in that camp. I remember watching. I

876
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: was like, is this going to be how baseball is now?

877
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: But anyway, I just wanted to go over the thought

878
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: exercise with you guys on how to play this out.

879
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: The Dodgers definitely seemed to have the easier decision making

880
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: for Dave Roberts. As long as they continue this, it'll

881
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: be interesting because we haven't really seen this, Kip. What

882
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: if a starter for the Dodgers does have a bad

883
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: day and you have to script the rest of the

884
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: game or play it out with your believers. So let's

885
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: say a dude doesn't make it past the second inning

886
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: and you got to fill a lot of time cursh off.

887
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: And to cover some in.

888
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: They are they are set up so perfectly for so

889
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: many things with just how good their staff is. It

890
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: can handle so many different ways of they're rested, they go,

891
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: the starters go long, so yeah, and then they have

892
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: guys in their bullpen who are starters and are stretched

893
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: out as well too, so they really are capable of

894
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: handling almost each situation, and like if if the starter,

895
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: let's say game one or two only goes too innings,

896
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: they're out of the game. Now you bullpen it or

897
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 2: you go Kershaw Like you're saying you still have Yamamoto

898
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: and show, Hey, guys who are willing, who are able

899
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: to go six, seven.

900
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 5: Eight, nine innings themselves.

901
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: So that's the luxury of these guys who are just

902
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: dominating get late in the games all the time.

903
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: Anyways, it's funny if you're in Toronto, you're like, guys,

904
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: let's let's get one of these starters knocked out so

905
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: we get Kershaw. Just sounds funny, he did. I mean

906
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: he always puts up good run prevention numbers, no matter

907
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: what the stuff.

908
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 5: Looks like, and that it used to be not got

909
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 5: the starter to get to the bullpen.

910
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: Well here's here's a Hall of Famer waiting for you.

911
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

912
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: Good, but stuff wise, I mean, you'd much rather face

913
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw than a good day for Blake Snell, Tyler Glass,

914
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: now Yamamoto or Otani.

915
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 5: True, True, I'm just disappointed.

916
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 3: Show he's only if this game, if it goes seven,

917
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 3: it only get to pitch a once.

918
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: No twice, he'll come out of the bullpen in Game seven.

919
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 3: Do you think his dream give up, give up the

920
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 3: DH his dream to.

921
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: Do exactly what he did in the World Baseball.

922
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: Class, It's got to be Kershaw for me.

923
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: I actually think Shotani, as robotic as he is, has

924
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: one dream right Game seven, World Series, tight game and

925
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: he closes it out. I actually think that's the thing

926
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: for him.

927
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 3: He's talked to the team about on it.

928
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: Well, I like, push, are we getting to a Game

929
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: seven too soon?

930
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: Sorry?

931
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: I want to bet on it. That's that was I

932
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 1: did miss that. Uh, but that's what he wants. Okay, Wait,

933
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 1: you think Kershaw is going to close it out.

934
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 4: I'm saying, an ideal world, if we had Andy McColl

935
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 4: on the other day, if they have a lead and

936
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 4: a big enough lead, and it's a clinching game, Kershaw's

937
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 4: last game and you bring you bring him in.

938
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's got to be.

939
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 4: Like yeah, I understand, but I'm saying five six runs,

940
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 4: you say, kursh go close this thing out and let

941
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 4: him do it.

942
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 3: I think that would be the storybook ending. He deserves

943
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 3: six plus. Okay, fine, They're up ten to two in

944
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: the ninth kursh finish this thing.

945
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird to say, like the storybook Eddy that

946
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: he deserves. Like guys had an amazing career, he also

947
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 2: deserves the storybook I need as well.

948
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: Yes, some people get it all. Some people get it all, Kip.

949
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,959
Speaker 5: Okay, it would be so cool, you really would.

950
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, curseh is already. There's one thing Kersh

951
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 4: has missed in his career that he didn't get. He

952
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 4: didn't get the tyler Glass now body. Okay, but he

953
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 4: got the Hall of Fame career, he got the money,

954
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 4: he got everything else, but he doesn't have the tyler

955
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 4: Glass now body.

956
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: No, he's a proud dad body, I know.

957
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. So you can't really get it all.

958
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 4: He got most of it. He just missed that one

959
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 4: little thing.

960
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he is inspirational, as are many baseball players.

961
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: You don't have to have a tyler Glass now body

962
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: to make it to the big leagues.

963
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 5: I agree.

964
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: That's rowdy, right, there's a lot of guys where you

965
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: look and you're like, Okay, he's.

966
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 5: Just firing from the hip today.

967
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 3: It's been a long week, Kip. You missed you missed

968
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 3: a lot.

969
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: To seek apparently welcome to foul thereto.

970
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 3: It's been a lot of It's been a rough week

971
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 3: on the Twitter for me.

972
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 4: I've been getting people have really hurt my feelings that

973
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 4: they're mean words they've said to me.

974
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 5: I have to take a part.

975
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: If you think about the context. I mean, it's fans

976
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: just talking rubbish, yes, strategy stuff like whatever. You know.

977
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: I got a fan going, oh, I mean, did you

978
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: forget George Springer play the outfield? No, you're watching a

979
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: thirty second clip on Twitter and we talked about that

980
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: for five minutes of it and his knee. But thanks

981
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: for chiming in. Hey, it's FT presented by the new

982
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: Fox one app. We have some news coming in about

983
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: the Braves manager spot, which I think is the best

984
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 1: job available out of the whatever. The number is still

985
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: a large number of openings. Scott Coleman, part of our

986
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: Hammer Territory crew, said Mark Bowman's reporting, it seems the

987
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 1: Braves are down to three candidates. Clubs bench coach Ryan Flaherty,

988
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 1: Downders bench coach Danny Lahman. Who's the third Somebody send

989
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: me who the third one is on there? Cut But

990
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: Mark Bowman also wrote a quote tweet on that and

991
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: said he confidently, Oh here's the third one, George Lombard,

992
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: Tiger's bench coach. But he said he confidently removed David Ross,

993
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: Mark de Rosa, and John Gibbons from the list. I

994
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: remember when I worked with DeRosa at MLB, that was

995
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: like what he was waiting for at one point. That was,

996
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: but that was a while ago. This was when Snicker

997
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: took over and then ends up staying there for a

998
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: long period of time. And I don't think. I don't

999
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: know what the deal is. Maybe he's waiting till his

1000
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: kids are out.

1001
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 3: Too good of a gig right now.

1002
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: It's a good gig. And also I.

1003
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 3: Paid a lot of money from MLB to talk really

1004
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 3: well about MLB on MLB Central, right.

1005
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a big.

1006
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 3: He gets to go around with Rob Manford and hang

1007
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 3: out and play golf.

1008
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: It's a good gig.

1009
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 4: It's a lot because the Dratetage team USA every year

1010
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 4: every few years.

1011
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean he's got a pretty good gig

1012
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 3: right now.

1013
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. At some point, when you know, the the channel

1014
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: keeps changing like it does, then maybe he gets interested

1015
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: in the manager role, because I mean the manager roles grind.

1016
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: The very big difference from doing a little bit of

1017
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 1: TV right a lot more heat. I mean, Braves fans,

1018
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: they've got a great team and a great organization. Braves

1019
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: fans have high expectations, rightfully so, But Kip, whenever I

1020
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: go on like this year, I'll go on a radio

1021
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: station in Atlanta and I'll make just just want to

1022
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: make sure everyone listening here is aware, like the world

1023
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: is not ending. This team won a World Series recently.

1024
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: They're competitive every year. Like, I get it, this is

1025
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: not a good year, but this fan base has experienced

1026
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: really good baseball and almost every way, sorry you didn't

1027
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: have time for that.

1028
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 5: Were spoiled in a good way. They've had such a

1029
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 5: good Yeah, spoiled.

1030
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: Let's slap. And we have a quote that Ken Rosenthal

1031
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 1: put out there from Max Scherzer on Giants new manager

1032
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: Tony Vitello. By Tello was the pitching coach at Missouri

1033
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: when Max Scherzer was there. I tell he is not

1034
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,919
Speaker 1: that much older than Max. Max is what forty one

1035
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: ish forty two? I tell he's forty seven. But anyway,

1036
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: Max said, I absolutely believe in him. He's to this

1037
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 1: day one of my closest friends, and I absolutely believe

1038
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: he's going to get it done at the big league level.

1039
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: It sounds like at some point we're gonna have to

1040
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: talk to forty one year old Max about toy Bytello.

1041
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: Max a little busy right now. He's got a World

1042
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: Series that he's going to pitch in.

1043
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 3: M He's a little busier right now.

1044
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but mac Max is a big fan of foul

1045
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: Territory as well, so we'll get him probably right after

1046
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: World Series, I would say at this point to recap

1047
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: it right.

1048
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1049
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1050
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 4: By the way, I got a couple of birthdays that

1051
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 4: we have to shout out. One, Yes, Carbon Burns used

1052
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 4: to be my favorite player, but not anymore. Two, eat

1053
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: your row. Three Brad Thomas. If you don't know who

1054
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 4: Brad Thomas is, he was a left handed pitcher. He

1055
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 4: started came up with the Twins. Was supposed to be

1056
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 4: on the plane in nine to eleven flying home to Australia,

1057
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 4: one of the ones that was crashed. Michael Kadyer hit

1058
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 4: a home run in the Double A Playoffs kept him

1059
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 4: from being on that plane, so he missed that plane.

1060
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 4: He would not be here today. So Brad X team

1061
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 4: made of mind. Great story. And last, but not least,

1062
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 4: Hector Carrasco. If you don't know who Hector Carrasco is,

1063
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 4: looking him up. He's a right handed pitcher. He was

1064
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 4: with the Twins when I came up. He lost his luggage,

1065
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 4: like on every other charter flight. I never figured it out,

1066
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 4: and then they'd have to give him money for his

1067
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 4: clothing his luggage. So every like every third flight, he'd

1068
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 4: be like, I lost my luggage, and they'd have to

1069
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 4: give him a check for his clothing. Smart play, A

1070
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 4: smart play, smart play, Hector. I don't know how you

1071
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 4: lose your luggage on a charter flight, but he did

1072
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 4: it often.

1073
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 5: Wow.

1074
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,959
Speaker 1: At that door flung open and one bag fell.

1075
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 4: It happened like five times when you were like, Hector

1076
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 4: out hel, do you lose your luggage on a charter plane?

1077
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 3: Bro? That's good And I literally happened like five times.

1078
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 5: The flight guy's a cut that's how right exactly.

1079
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: Flight guys got it in the cockpit, put it down

1080
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 1: the suet.

1081
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 3: Uh.

1082
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: Do you guys know how old is one of guess

1083
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: physics two.

1084
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 3: I just saw him. He looks unbelievably good. I saw

1085
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 3: him in here in Seattle.

1086
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 1: Wow, he's a workout machine.

1087
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 3: Dude's unbelievable good.

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Speaker 1: That guy looks he loves the game as much as

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Speaker 1: anybody I know.

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Speaker 3: But I was like, don't you have anything else to do?

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Speaker 1: No, he doesn't.

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Speaker 3: I mean he gotta have something to do. His whole

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Speaker 3: life is just be like you.

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Speaker 4: Going to Clue or to to Wrigleyfield every day and

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Speaker 4: just hanging out like.

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Speaker 1: No, I gotta fight something else to do working out

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Speaker 1: with I know, yeah, but it's it's cool. I love

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