1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: just to touch, to get you through. Yeah me too. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, 5 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after Party. 6 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after 7 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full 8 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig 9 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to 10 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, 11 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: we're talking about our new story, Backmasking and the death 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: of the Dangerous rock Star. Because of our new episode 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: on Judas Priest, we're rewinding back to our spooky Robert 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: Johnson tail previewing next week's episode on The Exorcist. We 15 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: get into your voicemails, text, dms, and as always, a 16 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the 17 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: musically obsessed, with the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know 18 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: that the best history is the history that gets buried. 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: Disgrace Lands, where I tell the stories they didn't want told, 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: the kind you'll end up telling someone else all right, discoes, 21 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: let's get into it. In nineteen ninety, the National News 22 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: reported on a Judas priest court case and the heavy 23 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: metal band was accused of inciting fans to commit suicide. Specifically, 24 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: authorities accuse the English group of including hidden messages in 25 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: their songs that could only be heard by playing vinyl 26 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: copies of their albums backward. This practice, known as backmasking, 27 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: wasn't a new concept in nineteen ninety, but what was 28 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: new in nineteen ninety was the idea that many in 29 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: mainstream America seriously believed that rock stars were dangerous enough 30 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: to want to cause intentional harm, even death, to their fans. 31 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Ozzy Osbourne each endured back masking controversies. 32 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: In the nineteen sixties, the Beatles were accused of including 33 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: the backward message turned Me on dead Man in their 34 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: song Revolution Number nine, a supposed reference to their supposed 35 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: dead bass player Paul McCartney. In the seventies, Led Zeppelin 36 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: were accused of backmasking the message Here's to My Sweet Satan, 37 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: a lyric that one could supposedly decipher by playing the 38 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: Zeppelin tune Stairway to Heaven. Backward. In the eighties, in 39 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: an event that would foreshadow the Judas Priest scandal, Ozzy 40 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: Osbourne was sued for criminal negligence, accused by the parents 41 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: of a young fan of including subliminal messages in his 42 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: song Suicide Solution and inciting their son to kill himself. 43 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: The idea that rock stars would go out of their 44 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: way to design backward messaging in their recordings with the 45 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: intent of causing harm to their fans is absurd, But 46 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: the point is that in decades past, people believed this 47 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: to be true, so much so that Ozzy Osbourne and 48 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: Judas Priest were forced into court to defend lawsuits brought 49 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: against them. Now, who would believe that rock stars were 50 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: this dangerous? Well, lots of people, and it turns out 51 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: they had good reason. In nineteen sixty six, when the Beatles, 52 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: John Lennon said publicly that the Beatles were more popular 53 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: than Jesus Christ, ninety one percent of Americans identified as Christians, 54 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: compared to today when just sixty one percent of Americans 55 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: identify as Christians. Truly, a massive backlash against the Beatles 56 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: took place after these comments. Lenin was accused of blasphemy. Beatles' 57 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: records were burned, their music was banned on certain radio 58 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: stations throughout the American South, and Lenin was forced to 59 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: publicly apologize. In nineteen eighty five, when the led Zeppelin 60 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: biography Hammer of the Gods was published, news of the 61 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: group's unspeakable sexual depravity involving a mud shark spread throughout 62 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: every high school in America, and despite the questionable veracity 63 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: of the book's author and its sources, many believed this 64 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: story and still do. And in nineteen eighty one, when 65 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: Ozzy Osbourne shocked CBS Records executives by biting the head 66 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: off of a live dove in the middle of a 67 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: business meeting, and then repeated the animal abuse on stage 68 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: a year later by biting the head off of a bat, 69 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: parents of teenage metal heads across the United States were horrified. 70 00:04:54,839 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: Who were these lunatics entertaining American children? Blasphemy, unspeakable acts 71 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: of depravity, animal abuse. We can question the seriousness of 72 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: the intent behind all of these controversies, but you can't 73 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: deny the shocking impact that each event had. These stories 74 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: and more. Vince Neil from Motley Cruz drunk driving incident 75 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: that killed Nicholas Razzle Dingley, drummer for Hanoi Rocks Axel 76 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: Rose from Guns N' Roses, inciting a riot at one 77 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: of the band's shows, Billie Idol compelling hotel management to 78 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: call the Thai military to evict him from a Bangkok 79 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: hotel over his debaucherous and violent behavior. These tales of 80 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: rock and roll excess made national and sometimes international news. Authorities, 81 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: and parents had serious questions about the entertainers their children 82 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: were being exposed to dangerous rock stars. This fear and 83 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: doubt burst into mainstream consciousness in nineteen eighty five when 84 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: the PMRC, the Parents Music Resource Center, a music censorship 85 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: advocacy group spearheaded by Tipper Gore, wife of then Democrat 86 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: Senator Al Gore, argued in front of the entire country 87 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: in a live televised Senate hearing the popular musicians posed 88 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: a dangerous threat to young people, and specifically accused Led 89 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: Zeppelin and other groups of back masking. Senate testimony didn't 90 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: prove that rock stars were intentionally trying to harm young 91 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: fans through back masking. In fact, Frank Zappa, in his 92 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: testimony against the PMRC's accusations, thoroughly destroyed their argument, saying 93 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: the whole issue of hidden messages, backward masking, and all 94 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: that if you play any record backwards long enough, you'll 95 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: eventually hear what you want to hear. It's the same 96 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: as looking at clouds. People see what they want. It 97 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: is not scientific and it's not serious, And despite the 98 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: testimony of Frank Zappa, the PMRC did prevail. The RIAA, 99 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: the Recording Industry Associateation of America agreed to include a 100 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: warning sticker on albums deemed offensive sacrilegious snark sex with 101 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: mud sharks, headless bats, deadly, drunk driving incidents, riots, debauchery 102 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: in a nationally televised senate hearing. All contributed to an 103 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: environment of fear in moral panic, and came to a 104 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: head in nineteen ninety when the parents of a Judas 105 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: Priest fan, James Vance accused the band of backmasking messages 106 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: intended to compel listeners to kill themselves. Vance was horribly 107 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: disfigured in a suicide pack with his friend and fellow 108 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: Judas Priest fan Raymond Bellknapp, who shot and killed himself 109 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: on December twenty third, nineteen eighty five. As ridiculous as 110 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: this lawsuit sounds the idea that musicians would exert time, money, 111 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: and creative energy in the recording studio to design secret 112 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: messaging with the express purpose of causing harm, even death 113 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: to their fans. As obsid sird as this idea is. 114 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: This is not the point. The point is that in 115 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties, people actually believed that rock stars were 116 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: dangerous enough to do what they were being accused of. 117 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: The Judas Priest backmasking case was very real. Ozzy Osbourne 118 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: faced his own lawsuit over the same issue in nineteen 119 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: eighty seven, and led Zeppelin's name was smeared all over 120 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: the floor of the United States Senate. Rob Halford, a 121 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: singer and a heavy metal band, was, along with his bandmates, 122 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: forced into court to testify to his innocence in a 123 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: lawsuit accusing him of wanting to kill his fans. This 124 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: would never happen today. Rock stars simply aren't seen as 125 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: being dangerous enough. Sure, some mainstream rockers play with dark imagery, 126 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: but not in any serious kind of way, not in 127 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: a way that results in lawsuits or accusations of compelling 128 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: the deaths of fans. The rock star, or the myth 129 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: of the dangerous rock star hasn't been eliminated, but it 130 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: has been domesticated. Today's rockstar is, by comparison, or at 131 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: least the perception of today's rock stars is safe, and 132 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: I would argue, for better or worse anyway, that that's boring. 133 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: These days, public fear and paranoia is expressed toward hip 134 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: hop artists like Travis Scott and Lil nas X, and 135 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: if we're to believe certain corners of the Internet, it's 136 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: through these artists that the devil now expresses himself. But 137 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: as for the myth of the dangerous rock star, it's dead. 138 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: But I am very much alive, and I'll be back 139 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: in the flash with your voicemails, text emails and answers 140 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: on who you think the greatest heavy metal acts of 141 00:09:48,440 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: all time are more after this, all right, we are 142 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: back and we are dangerous. As ever, that entire piece 143 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: on back masking that you just heard was obviously inspired 144 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: by our recent episode on Judas Priest. The whole subject 145 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: totally fascinates me, the fact that people actually believed what 146 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: they believed, the urban myths that back masking created. If 147 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: you're of a certain age, you heard all those stories 148 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: growing up like I did, and I wanted to give 149 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: the subject a little more time, thus the piece at 150 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: the top of this episode. Another subject relative to Judas 151 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: Priest that we didn't cover in our full story. In 152 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: our full episode, I should say, was the arrest and 153 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: imprisonment of Judas Priest drummer Dave Holland for abusing a 154 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: minor with learning disabilities. Shocked to discover a part of 155 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: this story that I was previously oblivious to, regarding the 156 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: band's thoughts on their drummer's arrest and what happened after 157 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: that certainly not part of the public narratives surrounding Dave 158 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: Holland and Judas Priest. You can sort of connect the 159 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: dots here and come to a very very interesting conclusion. 160 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: Disgrace and All Access members can hear that conclusion and 161 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: that story in our mini episode this week. Available for 162 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: Patreon and Apple subscribers five bucks a month to get 163 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: that content, along with ad free listening and more. Just 164 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: go to Disgrace sampod dot com to sign up before 165 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: those prices go up at the end of October, and 166 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: know that when you do sign up, you're supporting the 167 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: show and we really appreciate that. Speaking of myths, where 168 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: we speaking a myths. I don't know. I feel like 169 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: we're always doing some sort of myth work here. In 170 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: this week's rewind episode on Robert Johnson, we play with 171 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: the myth that Robert Johnson sold the soul to the 172 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: Devil for success, which to me is kind of wrote, 173 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: kind of boring. I've got a different take on Robert 174 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: Johnson and the Devil, and you're not going to want 175 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: to miss it. This episode has some of our best 176 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: and creepiest sound design, perfect for Halloween, so make sure 177 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: you don't miss it. It's coming up directly after this 178 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: bonus episode next week. All the chills hit when we 179 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: dive into our Exorcist story again on the Halloween tip, 180 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: do yourself a favor and download that episode, Climb into bed, 181 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: turn off the lights, put some headphones on, and be 182 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 1: prepared to creep out with us. One of my favorite episodes. 183 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: When we originally released this story last year, we received 184 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: a ton of positive feedback from you guys, including some 185 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: who were connected to the story, which is really fascinating. 186 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: We knew we had an instant Halloween classic, so I'm 187 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: excited to listen again, and I hope you are too. 188 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: All right. The Exorcist story is indeed creepy and deals 189 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: with some heavy issues, but it also a really fun question. 190 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: What is the scariest movie by your estimation? This scariest 191 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: movie of all time? I don't know how you want 192 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: to term it. Whatever scares the hell out of you. 193 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,119 Speaker 1: We talked about this last year and got a boatload 194 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: of responses. We're still getting responses on it, if I'm 195 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: being totally honest, So I know it's a subject that 196 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: still has legs. And I know that some of you 197 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: guys are constantly watching new horror and watching old horror 198 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: and updating your your list of favorite scary movies. So 199 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: when you're listening to the Exorcist episode next week, be 200 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: thinking about which movies has scared you the most, which 201 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: have really freaked you the hell out, whether they're old classics, 202 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: new ones, things you've seen since since last year and 203 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: we talked about this last whatever it is, hit me up, 204 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: let me know six one seven nine oh six six 205 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: six three eight. Leave a voicemail and the text, I 206 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: love getting hip to horror movies that I haven't seen, 207 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: and reminded of classics that I need to rewatch this year. 208 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: Six one seven nine oh sixty six six three eight 209 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: call let me know which scary movie freaky out the 210 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: most and what we all need to be watching this Halloween, 211 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: all right. And on the subject of you guys and 212 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: your voicemails, excuse that chair in the background sliding across 213 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: the floor. I moved the studio around a little bit yesterday, 214 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: trying to go for a little fresh look here, more 215 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: of a flat background, you know. And I'm still settling 216 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: in here, all right, So excuse that rolling chair there 217 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: it is again. Anyways, on the subject of you guys 218 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: in your voicemails and text, let's hear your answers to 219 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: last week's question of the week on the heavy metal 220 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: artists that are on your mount rushmore of heavy metal. 221 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: Let's hear from Ben in the eight to three. 222 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: Ay, Jake, this is Ben from the eight to oh three, 223 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: weighing in on a subject that back in my wheelhouse 224 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: as a young impressionable guy in the eighties, during the 225 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: heyday of the heavy metal era, if you will, learning 226 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: to play guitar and naturally gravitated towards Van Alen by 227 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: mounting those guys. But when you're talking about bands, there 228 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: was just something big and majestic and well downright British. 229 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: Obviously about the two best middle bands of all time. 230 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: In my opinion, they would be one in one egg 231 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: and that would be Iron Maiden and Judas Priest. Those 232 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: guys just hit different. And you know, again, when you're 233 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: going from listening to you know, Van Halen and all 234 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: this stuff for the Ryven guitars and you hear the 235 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: you hear you know, Glenn Tips and KK Down and 236 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: those guys and the way they were doing or doing 237 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: guitar melodies and everything else. 238 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: It was just. 239 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: Everything was a little bit bigger and badder, you know 240 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: what I mean. And then ultimate concert ever was probably 241 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: the Iron Maiden Power Slave Tour. I still have nightmares 242 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: about Ady coming at me. Thanks a lot, Jake, keep 243 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: up the great word rock and. 244 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: Roller, Ben. I feel the van Halen love and I 245 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: agree with you. Iron Maiden and Judas Priest just hit different. 246 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: Just didn't make it into the Judas Priest episode, but 247 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: it was one of the things that I found. I 248 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: didn't I didn't get to write about it. I didn't 249 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: know this that I wasn't surprised to read that Iron 250 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: Maiden opened up for Judas priest early on in their career. 251 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: And but what I what I what I did find 252 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: that was surprising was that in KK Downing's book he 253 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: talks about how h they he basically he doesn't say 254 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: he hates Iron Maiden, but he just talks, I didn't 255 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: want to say, talk shit. But he's got a very 256 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: unfavorable opinion of these guys based on not on their music, 257 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: on their attitudes and the way they acted when they 258 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: were toring together as a young band. And I think 259 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: he compares them to def Leopard and just how what 260 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: great guys def Leopard were and how easy it was, 261 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: and has similar kind things to say about ac DC 262 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: from that time period. But Iron Maiden, he's not a fan. 263 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: And this is something that's come up recently a couple 264 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: times to me. When when Zeth and I were talking 265 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: a few months ago about Sharon Osbourne, we came upon this, 266 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: uh tidbit of information where Iron Maiden did an oz 267 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: Fest a few years back and had a lot of 268 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: beef with Sharon and basically a lot of people on 269 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: that tour do not like Iron Maid. And so I 270 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: don't know what this is all about. I mean, I'm 271 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: not admittedly I'm not an Iron Maiden aficionado. I like 272 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: Iron Maiden. I was listening to the Somewhere in Time 273 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: album the other day a couple of days ago, cop 274 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: down on CD at Armageddon Records in Harvard Square when 275 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: I was up in Boston a couple weeks ago, or Cambridge, 276 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: i should say, and was listening to that album. Loved 277 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: that album. Stranger to Strange lands such as fucking Bruce 278 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: Dickinson's voice, man so good, epic, epic, epic, epic choruses, 279 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: and also kind of sounds like these guys might have 280 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: been Epic Dix as well. Anyways, that came up in 281 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: the Judis Priests research. All right, let's go. Let's we 282 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: get another call here from the eight oh three eight 283 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: O three. This is from Eric the last eight oh 284 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: three voicemails from Ben. One of you guys know each other. 285 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: I'm just curious Eric in the ATO three, Let's hear 286 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: what you get to say. 287 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: Hey, Jake, is Eric from the AH three calling to 288 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 3: tell you that my favorite heavy metal band of all 289 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 3: time is Judas Priest. 290 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: I'm an eighties medal kid. 291 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: Love lots of bands from that era and beyond, but 292 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: the Priests are my favorite, Screaming for Vengeance is probably 293 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: my favorite album of all time, and Rob is definitely 294 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 3: my favorite metal singer. So rock on, love your show, 295 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 3: talk to you later, Eric. 296 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: I agree Juwics Priest stands amongst the greats. You mentioned 297 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: Screaming for Vengeance, and I have to mention here a 298 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: mistake that I made in the Jewish Priest episode that 299 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: Marty E emailed me about. I confused the Screaming for 300 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: Vengeance and Defenders of the Faith albums in our story 301 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: when I was giving a breakdown of record sales by 302 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: Judas Priest. If you downloaded an early version of that episode, 303 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: you might have heard that mistake. We've since corrected it 304 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: and re uploaded the correction the correct episode. That's correct 305 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: information in the episode. Excuse me, So if you're downloading 306 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: a later version, you're just gonna get the correct stuff 307 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter. My bad and total brain fart. 308 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: Well aware of the differences between the albums. My bad, 309 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: and thank you Marty E for pointing that out. I 310 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: appreciate it. All Right, we're gonna move out of the 311 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: eight oh three, which I believe is South Carolina. We're 312 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: gonna head back to my neck of the woods in 313 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: the nine to seven eight. 314 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 4: Okay, what's up? 315 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 5: Mark n the gratest metal band of all time? Listener, Man, 316 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 5: there's a hierarchy here, right. I think just about anybody 317 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 5: who's ever owned a battle deck would probably agree to this. 318 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 5: It's gotta be Sabbath. It's gotta be Sabbath. They basically 319 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 5: invented the genre. Right. But then after Sabbath, sure, that's 320 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 5: when you can start talking about Maiden and Priest. 321 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 6: Okay, and then in my opinion, after. 322 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 5: That is like the Big Four, right, Metallica, Megadeth, Player 323 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 5: and Anthrax. So it's almost like, uh like different groups, right, 324 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 5: but Sabbath has to be above all of them in 325 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 5: I don't know, in my opinion side your absolute right, 326 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 5: halland Oaths is freaking awesome and uh yeah, love what 327 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 5: you do. 328 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: Keep it up, Rock and Roller nine. I like your hierarchy, 329 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: and I agree you gotta put Black Sabbath at the 330 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: top of the list. Sorry to say, Priest fans. Without 331 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: Black Sabbath, there just wouldn't be Judas Priest. Let's see 332 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: what's up in the five o seven? 333 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 6: Hey? 334 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 5: What up? 335 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,959 Speaker 6: This is a handy from the five oh seven? Uh? 336 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 6: I was just gonna go ahead and let you know 337 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 6: that that play in with with the Uh, he's a bad, 338 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 6: bad band. That's the first time I've heard it. It's 339 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 6: on the mini episode leading into the Jewish Priest. And now, 340 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 6: I mean, I listen to most y'all's episodes, but that's 341 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 6: the first time I heard it. And I may everybody 342 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 6: like three times. Dude, just bounceing, just bounce it to. 343 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 6: He's a bad bad band with the beat. Love what 344 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 6: y'all do? Don't ever stop. 345 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: I love it, five O said, I love it, man, 346 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: I love the heart of that. That's my son when 347 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: he was four years old. Uh, speaking into the mic, 348 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: He's a bad bad man and uh yeah, you guys 349 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: become All Access members, you get to cop those mini episodes. 350 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: You'll hear all about what the five seven is talking about. 351 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: While I look for this email, I want to read 352 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: to you guys, I've got Iron Maiden cruising through my 353 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: head and Stranger to Strange Land, the first of all 354 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: the album art is incredible and wasted years. That is 355 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: the song I am thinking about with the epic. Course, 356 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: if I misspoke earlier, I'm in danger of losing serious 357 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: metal head credit here with these mistakes. I'm not sure 358 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: that was one, and I'm not going to go back 359 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: and listen and try to correct it. I'm just let 360 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: you know what's swimming through my head here in real time, 361 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: and I'm resisting the urge to launch into full Bruce 362 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: Dickinson chorus mode right now. No one wants to hear that, 363 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: especially not my kids seven seven five right saying, Hey, 364 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: I was bummed to hear about the passing of Ace 365 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,239 Speaker 1: Freely yesterday. He was so much better than Kiss let 366 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: him be, talk about a musician hogtied by his band. 367 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: I bought all of the nineteen seventy eight solo albums 368 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: A Boy, the Guys and Kiss his hands down the best. 369 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: Every song is a straight banger. I agree. I love 370 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: that record, and I this is a really good take 371 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: about Ace Freely seven seven five. Ace Freely was, as 372 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: I mentioned this in an Instagram post, he was a 373 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: great guitar player who was I believe wrongly maligned by 374 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: guitar snobs as not being a great guitar player. Just 375 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: what's what's what's the word I'm looking for. It's not 376 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: anything profound, It's just the point is he is so 377 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: great so impactful, directly responsible for so many of us 378 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: picking up the guitars in the first place. And you 379 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: just cannot deny the guy that he was fantastic and 380 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: rest in peace. Ace. I know you're up there looking 381 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: down at an incredible legacy. Pour one out for Ace 382 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: freely seven seven five. Also goes on to say I 383 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: was obsessed with Priest in the early eighties and remember 384 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: waiting outside the courthouse in my hometown of Reno, Nevada 385 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: to try to meet them when the suicide case was 386 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:36,719 Speaker 1: going on. Those poor kids were deeply disturbed, indeed very disturbed. 387 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: That's wild that you were there. I wonder what that 388 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: scene was like. Write us back seven seven five or 389 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: call us better leave a voicemail, tell us what that 390 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: scene was like at the courthouse back when Priest was 391 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: on trial. Incredible. Appreciate all the voicemails. I appreciate the text. 392 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: Appreciate the emails. Guys. Thank you keep them coming at 393 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: Disgrace Lampod on the socials. You want to hit me 394 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: up there as well, Disgrace Lampod at gmail dot com, 395 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: on email as always six one seven nine oh six 396 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: six six three eight, voicemail and text I'll be back 397 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: right after this. I've decided that Martin Scorsese, that's mister 398 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:32,479 Speaker 1: Martin Scorsese, is my favorite filmmaker of all time. I 399 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: say decided like this is a new revelation, but I've 400 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: known it for some time, and it's for many reasons. 401 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: But the main reason is that Scorsese is just the 402 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: most rock and roll of all the directors in my 403 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: mind anyway. So that's reason one. A reason one B. 404 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: We get into in the exclusive section of this episode 405 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: coming up by we, I mean me and doctor Zeth 406 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: Lundi from the prestigious Hollywood Land Hospital excuse me, Hollywood 407 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: Land Podcast. We're talking about this because of the new 408 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: five part documentary series on Martin Scorsese that was released 409 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: last week. Now listen, it's called mister Scorsese. Everyone who 410 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: knows him back from the old neighborhood who's in this 411 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: doc refers to him as Martin Scorsese, Scorsese, not Scorsese. 412 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: I've been saying Scorsese my whole life. Now I'm trying 413 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: to correct myself and say Scorceesi. It's like trying to 414 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: correct correct myself and say Nevada instead of Nevada. I 415 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: can't do it. It's hard. I try, I'm gonna fail. 416 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm letting you know. Anyways, this doc was released last week. 417 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: I've seen three of the five episodes. It's incredible. Zeth 418 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: talks about this and a whole lot more in his 419 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: wrap party episode of hollywood Land. Bonus episode of hollywood 420 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: Land this week. Here's a taste of what you're missing 421 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: if you're not subscribed. 422 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 4: What was really great that I watched over the weekend 423 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 4: was Apple TV's new documentary series, Mister Scorsese. This is 424 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 4: a five part series, obviously about Martin Scorsese, directed by 425 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 4: Rebecca Miller. If you like Martin Scorsese or you just 426 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 4: like movies, I cannot recommend that. I mean, if if 427 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 4: you like art, if you like the getting inside an 428 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 4: artist's head and seeing how they do what they do, 429 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 4: I cannot recommend this series enough. I don't think there 430 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 4: has ever been a portrait, as Rebecca Miller calls it, 431 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 4: of a filmmaker that is this personal and this much 432 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 4: of a deep dive. And I'm not just talking into 433 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 4: his career, into his work, but into his life. 434 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: Okay. 435 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 4: The first two episodes were my favorites because they shed 436 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 4: so much light on Martin Scorsese's upbringing, his childhood, and 437 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 4: a big part of these first two episodes are conversations 438 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 4: and interviews with his childhood friends now and they really 439 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 4: bring this whole backstory to life. I knew about his backstory, 440 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 4: but I didn't know about it. With this much shading, 441 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 4: this much color, this much character, they bring the true 442 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 4: criminess of it all to the surface, the organized crime 443 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 4: that's been hanging out in the shadows, these shadowy figures 444 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 4: that his father has to deal with, and then how 445 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 4: all these things made their way into Scorsese's movies, not 446 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 4: only into his movies, but into how he dealt with 447 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 4: studios and executives and people who were difficult to deal with, 448 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 4: and all these lessons that he took from his father, 449 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 4: and how his father would deal with all these authority 450 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 4: figures in the neighborhood back in the day. 451 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: All right, that's doctor Zeth Lundy in the Hollywood Land podcast. 452 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: Subscribe to Hollywood Land wherever you get your podcasts. You know, 453 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: I felt like when I just read that, I felt 454 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: like the announcer, the the hockey announcer in slap Shot. 455 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: I don't know why if anyone's seen slapshot, maybe you'll 456 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. It's a wild digression. I 457 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: got to reel it in, so that's what I'm gonna do. Okay. 458 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: This past weekend hold up, hold up, hold up, I 459 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: almost forgot This sixty second Sports rant and Under thirty 460 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: seconds is once again sponsored by five Hour Energies new 461 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 1: Pumpkin Spice Flame, your favorite fall drink in an energy shot. 462 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: You can pick up a Pumpkinspice five hour Energy Shot 463 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: available online at five hour Energy dot Com or Amazon. 464 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: This past weekend show, Hey Otani of the Los Angeles 465 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: Dodgers did something I'd never seen ever in all my 466 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: years of watching baseball. In a deciding Championship Series game. 467 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: He started the game on the mound, struck out the 468 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: first three batters of the game in the top of 469 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: the first inning, then got out to the plate to 470 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: hit lead off in the bottom of the first and 471 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: immediately homeward sheer dominance. It was incredible to watch. He 472 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 1: then went on to pitch six scoreless innings and homer 473 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: two more times. Now I told my kids they were 474 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: lucky to be alive during the same time period that 475 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: this dude is playing baseball. And then next day Monday, 476 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm still on this high. My kids are all pumped 477 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: about it. I'm pumped about it. We're talking about it. 478 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,479 Speaker 1: I turned on Boston Sports radio to hear cranky old dudes, 479 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: of which I definitely am not one, trying to make 480 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: the case that show, Hey, Otani is no Babe Ruth. 481 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: Now hold up, this is Apple's two Donuts. I can 482 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: almost excuse the case old heads try to make for 483 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: Ruth over Otani, but I can't excuse the certainty of 484 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: their argument or the smugness. Come on, come on, man, 485 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: dude plays in a completely different era, in a foreign country, 486 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: in a game that is played in a language that 487 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: he doesn't speak. Babe Ruth played in the dead ball era, 488 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: at a time when the league was segregated and when 489 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: a big portion of the talent was overseas fighting of war. Okay, 490 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: you can't compare the two, So just chill and enjoy 491 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: this magnificent display of dominance. Perhaps with a new Pumpkin 492 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: spice Flavor five hour energy shot, Matt, How do like 493 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: one thirty four? Jake? But I got to agree with 494 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: you on Otani. We're all lucky to see him play. 495 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 2: Hey, who's going to win the. 496 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: Series Dodders and six. That's what I'm saying. That was 497 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: a sports rant sponsored by five Hour Energies New Pumpkins 498 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: Spice Flavor. Of these new Pumpkin Spice five hour energy 499 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: shots our fall in a bottle and bring that classic 500 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: Pumpkin spice flavor that we all know and love, our 501 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: favorite fall drink, and an energy shot. You can pick 502 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: up a Pumpkinspice five hour Energy shot available online at 503 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: five hour Energy dot com or Amazon. All Right, all right, 504 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: all right, I promised you guys a Scorsese conversation and 505 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna get it right now. Zeth Lundy and I 506 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: breaking down the five episode doc series called Mister Scorsese 507 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: with some surprising insights into our own Scorsese storytelling that's 508 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: coming up right now for all Access members five bucks 509 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: a month for the exclusive content like this in our 510 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: mini episodes, plus ad free listening. Head to Disgrace slampod 511 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: dot com to sign up. All right, back in the 512 00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: saddle again, Ozzy Osbourne, led Zeppelin, the Beatles, Van Halen, 513 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: all those artists were mentioned today. All those artists are 514 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: in the Disgrace and archive with stories on each some 515 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: have multiple episodes. You can check that out. You can 516 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: find those episodes very easily by just going to the 517 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: show notes of this after Party Monus episode, and Matt 518 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: will have all of the relevant episode information in the 519 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: show notes so that you can find these stories very quickly, 520 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: and you know, just continue with your weekend weekend listening. 521 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's recap, shall we. Number one, this week's 522 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: full episode is on Judas Priest, and that's available for 523 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: you to listen to at this moment. Number two our 524 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: new mini episode for All Access members on Judas Priest, Strummer, 525 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: Dave Holland's arrest, Imprisonment, and Rock and Roll Hall of 526 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: Fame Induction. That's available as well for our All Access members. 527 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: Number three rewind episode on Robert Johnson in the myth 528 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: You've Never Heard Before. You're going to get that this 529 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: coming Friday, that's coming right after this. Number four. Next 530 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: week our Exorcist episode five. Zeth gets deeper into mister 531 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: Scarsese in the Rap Party episode of Hollywood Land. Number 532 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: six six one seven nine oh six sixty six three 533 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: eight Give me a call because your voice you're digging 534 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: into the dark corners of music history. Your experiences with 535 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: the music that you love. All of that call text, 536 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: hit me with your answers to this week's question of 537 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: the week, or whatever else you want to talk about, 538 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: and don't forget this goes. This isn't just content. It's 539 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: a community, a community of the obsessed. No one cares 540 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: about music, books, records, and the crime and grime that 541 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: ties them all together like you do. And well that's 542 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: a disgrace, all right. On December twenty third, nineteen eighty five, 543 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: two metal heads got wasted and fucked around with a 544 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: sod Off shotgun forever changing the trajectory of their favorite band, 545 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: Judas Priest. And this is what America was listening to 546 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: on that day. Number one Say You Say Me, Lionel 547 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: Richie last week three weeks on chart seven, number two, 548 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: Broken Wings, Mister Mister, last week one weeks on chart fourteen, 549 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: number three, Party All the Time, Eddie Murphy weeks on, 550 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: last week four weeks on chart five, number four, Alive 551 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,719 Speaker 1: and Kist Simple Lives last week Churty seven weeks on 552 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: chart number ten six, number five, Separate Lives, Phil Collins 553 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: and Marylyn Martin last week two weeks on churt twelve, 554 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: number six election. 555 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 5: Hey, Night's up, best founds. 556 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 2: Ay Night's up, best. 557 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 6: Founds I've ever seen in my life. 558 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: I love him.