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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. In

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: scripted as well, Ray drops Live from Vegas.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I am that announcer on Saturday Night.

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Speaker 2: Live Live from New York is Saturday night. No, maybe

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Speaker 2: that's Live from Vegas Friday night. Friday morning. We got

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Speaker 2: Alexus Jansen.

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Speaker 3: You can tell it's Friday morning because I just took

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Speaker 3: these suckers off. Ooh they're cold again. I'm actually gonna

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Speaker 3: put it back on. No, my hair and makeups walking

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Speaker 3: in right now. Yeah, so sorry, it's gonna be and

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Speaker 3: the food's getting delivered in the next hour. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're just you know, it was a two hour wait

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Speaker 3: for food because every Bravo celeberty is staying here at

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Speaker 3: the four seasons. It's insanity. Everywhere you go. You're like

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Speaker 3: running into people, and now I kind of know what

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Speaker 3: everybody feels like when they see me at the gas

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Speaker 3: station and they're like, oh hi, and they act like

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Speaker 3: they know you and.

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Speaker 2: They know you.

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Speaker 3: But I'm doing the same thing now because I'm walking

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Speaker 3: down the hall and I'm like, oh yeah, hi, and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, well.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about that.

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Speaker 4: Because the Rain Boss Alexis is live at Bravo Kash

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Speaker 4: He's in Las Vegas. So who have you met from

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Speaker 4: the Bravo universe that like you are excited to meet

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Speaker 4: or have vest so far?

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Speaker 3: Well, so I'm here working, Okay, I don't get to

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Speaker 3: just go enjoy everybody. But yesterday I've known Margaret from

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Speaker 3: Jersey for a while, but I just didn't I never

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Speaker 3: met her in person, met her, got to go to

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Speaker 3: her party. I interviewed her first for I Heart for

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Speaker 3: to Cheese and a Pod, and then got to go

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Speaker 3: to her party last night, which was phenomenal and off that.

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Speaker 3: It was just amazing party she hosted hosted Bar Carlos.

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Speaker 3: Because I go up to pay for my cocktail. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's a freaking long date. It's ten o'clock and they're like,

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Speaker 3: oh no, it's taking care of it. I'm like, she

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Speaker 3: hosted a bar for like one hundred and fifty people

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Speaker 3: at least Braboeleberties. So that was pretty freaking cool to

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Speaker 3: be in that room. And then and then Brittany B.

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Speaker 3: From Salt Lake City. I got to enter for you

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Speaker 3: her yesterday and I have never met her.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I love her.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, she stayed. I got to hang out.

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Speaker 3: I have a new friend. Carlos, add another friend to

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Speaker 3: my pod.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have a friend.

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Speaker 3: She stayed and after my interview with her, her and

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Speaker 3: her daughter, they both stayed and we just we just

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Speaker 3: you know, chit chatted and hung out until my next interview.

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Speaker 3: And so that was really cool to get to know her.

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Speaker 3: But her voice is come on. Her voice is, oh

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Speaker 3: he can't come in. Oh yes see I gave him

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Speaker 3: a rookie. Oh yeah. Her voice is phenomenal. Like I mean,

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Speaker 3: I was. I was blown away. I'm sitting there, you know,

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Speaker 3: because Teddy, I think Teddy and Tamra interviewed her. So

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting there and I got chills up and down

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Speaker 3: my body. Hijr high. Here's my here's my team.

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Speaker 2: I team Carlos Jr.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, it was like, it was just incredible. I

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Speaker 3: got chills everywhere. I videoed it. I posted it on

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Speaker 3: my story, but I only got a little snippet of it.

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Speaker 3: But then she sang a little bit more for us.

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Speaker 3: I mean, she is I don't know why she is

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Speaker 3: doing Housewives and she doesn't have a record label. That's

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Speaker 3: all I'm gonna say. It is that good. It is

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Speaker 3: that good.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, I didn't realize that.

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Speaker 4: Did she explain to you about the turbulence that happened

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Speaker 4: on the fly with the Meredith?

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Speaker 3: No, And I tried to you they were potting, but

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Speaker 3: I was also they were podcasting. When I said putting,

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Speaker 3: they were podcasting with Tamra and Teddy, and I was

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Speaker 3: still having to work a little bit because I had

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Speaker 3: other other interviewers coming in right after. But I tried

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Speaker 3: to catch onto it. And I hate being this honest,

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Speaker 3: but I don't watch any of the other Housewives franchises

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Speaker 3: because I'm so busy with you. I mean, hello, but

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Speaker 3: but I need to know because I'm absolutely I love her,

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Speaker 3: And it was just yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's good.

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Speaker 4: So you have Okay, have there been anyone you met

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Speaker 4: so far that wasn't nice to you.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is a funny story. I had just got here, okay,

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Speaker 3: just arrived to the hotel. Okay, who do you think

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you I see? Who do you think, Carlos?

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Speaker 2: Do not tell me you saw channela door? I was dying.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's way better. Thank you for that. Okay. See

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Speaker 3: now my my team brings a better light because I

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Speaker 3: was using this little bitty travel light with the things.

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Speaker 3: You know, because if I showed you what I really

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Speaker 3: looked like. I told him, I'm like, you have a

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Speaker 3: project today, j R. I have on her. No, I

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Speaker 3: have nothing on her. Now. I have bags like the

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Speaker 3: size of Texas under my eyes. And these didn't work. Okay,

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Speaker 3: It's like I put my face and eyes. They did

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Speaker 3: all the things.

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Speaker 2: Guys, get you made this.

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Speaker 3: Well. The eye patches technically do usually work. But it's

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Speaker 3: just I'm just beyond repair today and honor.

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Speaker 2: Of you, I'm gonna wear my eye patches.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Babe, I had him on and now they're holding

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Speaker 3: and I'll put my back on.

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Speaker 3: So that he says he walked in and had said,

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Speaker 3: holy crap, I need to give you a mask right now, Alexis.

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Speaker 2: Do you have her the mask on camera? And I'm

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Speaker 2: her her hosts and Solid Dairy. So I'm wearing my

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Speaker 2: topicals eye mask or doing it. Okay, that's not much.

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Speaker 2: I love you. We're doing it together. Okay, you here's

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Speaker 2: the happens.

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Speaker 3: Okay, no, so here's what happened. So I pull up

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Speaker 3: and they think I'm with Bravo con So they take

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Speaker 3: when you when you get out of your car, your

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Speaker 3: vehicle that they brew you in. Anyway, they take me

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Speaker 3: over and then I go, actually, I'm here for iHeart.

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Speaker 3: I'm working for iHeart. So then they take me to

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Speaker 3: another spot. So then that concierge comes with me and

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Speaker 3: we're walking to my room, she comes out of some

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Speaker 3: I'm like Spence, I'm not getting on this elevator right now.

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Speaker 3: I'm just not. I just I was not prepared, and she's,

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Speaker 3: I said, w witch, not be okay? Yeah, so she

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Speaker 3: you know, we waited and it took it felt like

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Speaker 3: five years for that elevator to come. And then as

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Speaker 3: we jump on that one. It was no big deal.

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Speaker 3: But then I got up here and I looked at

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Speaker 3: everybody on my team that I said, I will never

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Speaker 3: do that again. Why Why am I? Why am I

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Speaker 4: Sweetie?

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Speaker 3: Why did I feel like I can? This is very necessary, Alexis.

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Speaker 4: So for my audio listeners, as Alexis has on a

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Speaker 3: So it's gonna be. It's gonna be so worth it.

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Speaker 3: Viewers I need and listeners.

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Speaker 2: Give me Michael Myers teeth. Where's Paul Richards?

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Speaker 3: I have to have it because of how tired I am.

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Speaker 3: I literally barely slept last night. Oh that's another story.

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Speaker 3: My food didn't hardly eat yesterday because I was back

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Speaker 3: to back with everybody and then went to Margaret's party

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Speaker 3: and then got back to my hotel room and I'm starving.

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Speaker 3: Took two hours for me to get a Caesar salad

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Speaker 3: So I'm just yeah, it's a lot. But anyway, okay,

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Speaker 3: back to the story. So Shannon, you know, gets on

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm never doing that again. And so

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Speaker 3: I've been doing a poll. I've been asking everyone if

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Speaker 3: And hold back? What would you do?

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Speaker 2: Carlos?

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Speaker 3: And I cannot what.

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Speaker 4: Everyone has said I would have gotten on the elevator?

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Speaker 3: Would you jer everybody except two people have said that.

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Speaker 3: So I'm on the minority, and I thought I should

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Speaker 3: because I don't haven't done anything wrong, and I yeah,

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Speaker 4: Think I think she would have because I'm sure you

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Speaker 4: know this by now, and but maybe I'm telling you

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Speaker 4: something exclusively. Do you know what happened last night?

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Speaker 3: I no clue I've been so busy, I have not

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Speaker 4: Oh what exclusive for Alexis Milino and exclusive for the

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Speaker 4: rain Drop. So I'm wearing an eye mask. She's wearing

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Speaker 4: I mean under my eyes. She's wearing a face mask.

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Speaker 4: Oh give me Michael Myers teeth that I'm here for

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Speaker 4: Pyle Richards.

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Speaker 2: We need you and Jamie Lee Curtis. Okay, so check

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Speaker 2: this out and get together.

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Speaker 3: I saw Kyle by the way, So Kyle the hallway.

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Speaker 3: We hugged and we're like, oh my god, she's tiny.

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Speaker 2: Now she yes, you.

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Speaker 3: Didn't even need to lose any weight. But that girl

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Speaker 2: She's my favorite.

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Speaker 3: I love love, I love her, but go ahead love her.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So last night they had this big thing at

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Speaker 2: Bravo Kahn.

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Speaker 4: Shannon Badore was asked a question about what, oh what

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Speaker 4: name a housewife you want back on?

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Speaker 2: The housewive? Who would you want back on as a

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Speaker 2: friend up? And who do you want to remain five?

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Speaker 3: I do know this, okay. Ten people texted me this.

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Speaker 3: I was hoping you were gonna tell me right now, Carlos,

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Speaker 3: that she has a boyfriend. That's what I was hoping

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Speaker 3: you were gonna say, now you're telling me. Now you're

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Speaker 3: telling me tea, I already know, already heard.

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Speaker 4: Well I had to ask you, but well, let me

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Speaker 4: tell the franchise.

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Speaker 2: They may not know, so let me finish, and I

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Speaker 2: want to get your response exclusively. Okay.

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Speaker 4: So Shadava Door said that she would like Kelly dott

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Speaker 4: to remain fired. She said that she would want Lizzy

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Speaker 4: would like Alexis Billino to come back to the show

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Speaker 4: as a friend of I.

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Speaker 3: Think that's so cool. So I should have gotten on

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Speaker 2: So, look, have fun, enjoy Bravo Khan.

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Speaker 4: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, I don't think that Jin is single white

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Speaker 2: Do I believe that?

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Speaker 3: No, that's bullshit. Look at Tamra. She doesn't She doesn't

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Speaker 3: want to make that very clear. If anyone wants to

438
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 3: have a forever fiance, that's fine. Just own it and say, look,

439
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 3: we're engaged because we wanted to do the step, but

440
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 3: we're not going to get married and we don't want to.

441
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 3: And then people are going to stop asking you the question.

442
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 3: But when you're engaged, and especially when you're on a

443
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 3: national television show and you don't set a date, Andy

444
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 3: Cohen or whatever interviewer is going to continue to ask

445
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 3: when's your date, or when's your wedding or where how's

446
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 3: the wedding process going? Because it's just something in your

447
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 3: life that you think around the corner. So I think

448
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 3: if everybody would just own it and say I'm not

449
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 3: get married, totally different story.

450
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 4: I agree, I agree, and I listen. I think a

451
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 4: lot of it, which is smart, which is smart. I

452
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,719
Speaker 4: think a lot of it has to do with financial stuff.

453
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 3: I think for both wait for both Jen and Gretchen

454
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 3: and their fiances.

455
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I do.

456
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 4: I think there's which Again, I think it's smart. I

457
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 4: think there's some financials things going on that they don't

458
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 4: want to inherit, which I'm not mad at, and I

459
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 4: think is very smart to have that perspective.

460
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 3: I get why you say that about uh, Gretchen, because

461
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 3: we all everybody already knows that if they've watched the

462
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 3: show before season like seven or eight when it all

463
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 3: came out. But why do you think that about Jen?

464
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 3: Because Jen and Ryan have obviously guys. He's putting hero

465
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 3: in right now, so that you're just thinking, oh my god,

466
00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 3: you're going longer, Yes, and longer. I was, well, but

467
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 3: you gotta trust the artist because he's the artist, not me. Anyway,

468
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 3: I don't Why do you think that about Jen and Ryan?

469
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 4: Because Jen has been very honest. That's why I love her,

470
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 4: and she makes a great housewife. She's been very honest

471
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 4: about not being the smartest with her money. She borrows

472
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: money as an adult from her parents, her dad specifically,

473
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 4: She's talked about being married to her ex husband and

474
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 4: how he controlled the finances and she was in the

475
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 4: best place financially.

476
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 2: When she admitted that she cheated on her.

477
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 4: Ryan, as we know, had his legal situation that obviously

478
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 4: you know, it wasn't as bad in terms of what

479
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 4: we all thought at the time. And Ryan has been

480
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 4: an amazing man to bring in Jennifer Kiss to his home.

481
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 4: But I think when you when you sit back as

482
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 4: a couple and you both look at your individual finances,

483
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 4: I do think it's smart to say, let's look at

484
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 4: where we are.

485
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 2: What's her credit score? Like, you know, do you have

486
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 2: any dad?

487
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 3: These are true conversations that are hard right. What I

488
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 3: don't understand from what you're saying, though, is that Ryan

489
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: already took jin in okay, and it's taking care of

490
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: her and her kids before she got on her feet.

491
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 3: But at the reunion last night or Thursday, yeah, Thursday

492
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 3: last night, she said, I'm finally at a place where

493
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: I can take care of my kids myself. So that

494
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 3: means she's making enough money from endorsements, the Housewife Show

495
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: and her yoga training that she could take care of

496
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: her kids, her stuff. So why do you think that's

497
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: a money issue for those.

498
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 4: Two Because money, Because at the end of the day,

499
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 4: and I say this kindly, being a housewife is.

500
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: Not a job. Because you could go anytime, you can

501
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 3: find you any Okay. I was gonna help you because

502
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 3: I knew you were gonna say kindly. I'm like, let

503
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 3: me just be raw because but quit season seven, re

504
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 3: hired back, and begged back season eight, fired season eight.

505
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 4: So it's like, yeah, no, it's not you can't you

506
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,719
Speaker 4: can't rely on it. It's not reliable money. It just

507
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 4: is that you literally you you can't.

508
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 2: Listen.

509
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 4: The thing about being a housewife is you can literally

510
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 4: give your all to the show but you're at the

511
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 4: mercy of the network whether or not you can return.

512
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 4: And then and the sad part is and I feel,

513
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 4: you know, listen, I do have sympathy for the women.

514
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, it's taken away from you and

515
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 4: what you your content looks at your ten ninety nine,

516
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 4: do you know what I mean? And it's sort of like,

517
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 4: you made all this money last year, and he looks

518
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 4: at what you made this year, and it's vastly different.

519
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 4: And that's why I think it's smart in my opinion,

520
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 4: if they are saying, let's wait it be Jen has

521
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 4: been a housewife for three.

522
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 2: Years, three seasons. Yeah no, this was her third season, Yeah,

523
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: fourth Oh.

524
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I told you. Yeah, it's her third, this

525
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: is your third now two with me last year.

526
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's not that.

527
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 4: There's no guarantee unless she listen, no shade, unless you

528
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 4: are Kyle Richards.

529
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 2: There's no guarantee.

530
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: There's no I don't think there's a Look at Tamra.

531
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: Tama got canned or put on pause after twelve or

532
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 3: thirteen years of being the most you know, highest rated

533
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 3: housewife and then has a two year pause and comes back.

534
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 3: So it's it's it doesn't matter who you are. It

535
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 3: could be Oprah Winfrey. Doesn't matter. You could get canned

536
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 3: because the network knows what.

537
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: They're Alexis, I think Kyle Richards is the Oprah Winfrey

538
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: of housewives. I don't think I will go. I'll go

539
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: a record Kyle Richards is never getting fired.

540
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 3: Better she better DMA later today after that a really

541
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 3: big steam.

542
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 2: You agree with me? I believe that Kyle.

543
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 4: I believe that the only housewife currently on the show

544
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 4: that will never ever, ever ever.

545
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: Get fired is Converenters. My opinion, I'm gonna say it,

546
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: and I believe it. Now.

547
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 4: Look at the Alexis like I'm going on, like Wow,

548
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 4: it's a lot of statement. It's a lot of statement,

549
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 4: but hey, that's why I'm here. One thing I wanted

550
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 4: to ask you is Gina made a very salacious remark

551
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 4: to me that I want to get her thoughts on

552
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: a Lexus. Gina believes that Ryan over sexualizes Jin.

553
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: I didn't really that didn't land with me. I didn't

554
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: think that.

555
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: I can't tell you why I think my opinion.

556
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 4: I think when you have a partner that is all

557
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 4: over you and he loves you and he just wants to, like,

558
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 4: you know, when he looks at you, he wants to

559
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 4: like make out with you, make love to you like

560
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 4: he's he's jumping your bones. I don't think that he's

561
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 4: over sexualizing Jin. I think is what Jen said, which

562
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 4: I thought was so important, and I cannot wait to

563
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 4: get your thoughts. Look at Alexis like Alexis, because I

564
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 4: know you so well, do my system.

565
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna start when.

566
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 4: So Gina's like, he over sexualizes you, and Jena's like,

567
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 4: I met this man later in life and he is

568
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 4: all over me.

569
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: And because I've met him later.

570
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: In life, I do sometimes think like, Okay, how long

571
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 4: is this going to last? Because I've never had this experience,

572
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 4: and that's why I'm like, I get it right, Like,

573
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 4: can you relate to that alexis.

574
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 3: A million percent? I can relate to that. I think

575
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 3: I said a million percent last time on the I

576
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 3: gotta lose that saying. But anyway, yes, because okay, I've

577
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 3: got like three things and it's all gonna come out weird,

578
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: you know me. But anyway, first of all, I met

579
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: John later in life, and that man, I'm telling you,

580
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: like I need to put a napsack on sometimes because

581
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 3: I mean, he's all over me and constantly, like I've

582
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 3: never seen a body of this score never, And I

583
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: don't feel over sexualized. I feel like we have such

584
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 3: a deep connection. It's not just the looks either. It

585
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 3: is looks, but it's not. I mean, he's freaking hot

586
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 3: as hell too. He's got a six pack at sixty

587
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 3: three years old. But like, I think that there's so

588
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 3: much more to it, and to feel loved and to

589
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 3: have that love is not over sexualizing her. If if

590
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: Ryan was saying like grotesque things to the other women,

591
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: like her boob, look at how hot her boobs are.

592
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: They're big, they're sis double dude, like this or that

593
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 3: or what something like that. Yeah, over sexualizing, but to

594
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 3: be all over your wife to want to post pictures

595
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: of her in a bikini because she's hottest, you know whatever,

596
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: the hottest thing. Ever, it's like, I don't feel like

597
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 3: that's over sexualized. So yeah, I did not. That did

598
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 3: not land with me at all. I w Gina said that.

599
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 3: I was like, eh, and when you're out the other

600
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 3: I don't agree kind of thing.

601
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: But and I know I don't agree with that meeting.

602
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: Someone later in life it is like, Okay, let me

603
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: say this. If my eighteen year old daughter's ex boyfriend

604
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: would have would be talking about her like that. The

605
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 3: one part I do agree with is the later in

606
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: life thing, because if he was talking about her like

607
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: or doing things like that to my eighteen year old kid,

608
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: I would probably have a problem, be like he is

609
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: way too much of a horned dog, you know, like

610
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 3: move on, we're done. But later in life. And it's

611
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 3: like Ryan and Jen, when you're around them, you feel

612
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: the love. You can tell they're in love. It's it

613
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: does not nothing fake about it, nothing like oh they're

614
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: doing this for the television show or anything like that.

615
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 3: They are in love. So I mean that's how that's

616
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 3: my experience with them.

617
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, no, I I agree with that. I

618
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 4: don't think that. I just think that Ryan loves her

619
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 4: the way that job Well loves you.

620
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: Let's take this a step further. Do you think because

621
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 3: Gina said that, maybe Travis isn't like that with Gina

622
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: and she's a little bit like jealous or a little

623
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 3: bit like Okay, well, I don't get that. So that's

624
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 3: you know, because a lot of times that's what happens.

625
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 2: Well, I wasn't gonna go Beer.

626
00:30:54,240 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 3: Carlos reality with the King. Okay, it's reality. We are

627
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: doing reality, so we to know that.

628
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: Okay, I've been summoned.

629
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 4: So look in this case, I'm not going to know

630
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 4: because we don't know all this shit you go through.

631
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: By being honest, the least I can do is matro energy.

632
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: So I'm going to say that.

633
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 4: I think Gina said that because unfortunately Gina may not

634
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 4: have that experience of what that does feel like when

635
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 4: your partner is so into you that he is all

636
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 4: over you. It's not over sexualizing me because I think

637
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 4: looks aside when you are in love with somebody and

638
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 4: you just look at them and you just you love

639
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 4: them so much, you do be all over them. You

640
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 4: don't want the sexual act all the time. You just

641
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 4: want to display your affection.

642
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: And I think Gina.

643
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 4: May not know what that feels like to have a

644
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 4: man look at you and just wants to like constantly

645
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 4: love upon you.

646
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: Let me stick up for Gina or something. That another

647
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 3: way to look at this too, because we are we

648
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: do kind of act like we're therapists and counselors and

649
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: Dateline NBC. We have all these roles that we think

650
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: we are Carlos when Worley we're just too chatty people.

651
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: The other thing that you could think about is maybe

652
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 3: Gina is not a super sexual person, so she doesn't

653
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: need it. She didn't care, Like I have never been

654
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 3: so sexual with someone as I'm with John, because there's

655
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: just never. It's never. He's like the it for me,

656
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But like maybe she's just

657
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: not as as sexual, so for her it's not a

658
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 3: big deal. Like she's she said, ea, she said she

659
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: doesn't like to she's I think she's mentioned that at

660
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: times before, so I and by the way, I saw,

661
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: oh that's another person I saw. She came into the

662
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: iHeart Booth Suite last night too, so we got a

663
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: little high and huggin. But anyway, so there's all kinds

664
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: of ways you can look at it. But the bottom

665
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: line for both you and I, I think is where

666
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: we stand is it did not It does not feel

667
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: to us like, well, what do you think, Jar, do

668
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 3: you think that Ryan over sexualizes Jin?

669
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 4: I mean, like you said, if you're in love with

670
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 4: your girl and she's the hottest thing, I mean, I

671
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 4: don't think.

672
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: You're going to be touching it right.

673
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

674
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's another reason we're just really happy to have

675
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: what they have and that's it.

676
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, see I agree.

677
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 4: Now, alexis Katie and Matt in this episode.

678
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 3: We have to get wait to hear what you're gonna say.

679
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: I don't know where you're going to go because I've heard. Remember,

680
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: I've been in the suite. I've been in the Iheartsuite

681
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: talking to all these BRA celebrities, and I can't wait

682
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: to hear what you have to say about that scene.

683
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: Let's get into it. First of all, it's Katie and

684
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: Bramo con.

685
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: I have not seen her, but like I said, I

686
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: worked like eight hours yesterday and I did hear, but

687
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: she was not at Margaret's party, and I have not

688
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: met her in the hallway or anything yet, but I

689
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 3: feel like she is.

690
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 4: It's like a forty five minute flight from California, so

691
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 4: I hope she's there now.

692
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: Look, Matt has.

693
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 4: A bone to pick and it's knocking pop Peye chicken.

694
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 4: He is ready to spill the beans and protect his

695
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 4: wife Katie, and I'm here for it. Even when they

696
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 4: were in the trailer, Katie's crying saying that Jen called

697
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 4: her a con artist, and Matt is like her, You're.

698
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: A con artist. Brought her man. Ryan just did a

699
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: deal with the Feds.

700
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 4: And in that moment, I'm like, Oh, Matt is ready

701
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 4: to really go there. He comes out on the stage.

702
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 4: Katie's like, where is he sitting? And He's like, he's

703
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 4: sitting next to you. They make room for Matt. We

704
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 4: fight out that Ryan and Slade decided not to show up,

705
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 4: and in that moment, I said to myself, Oh, they

706
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 4: don't want the truth to come out. I believe Matt one.

707
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 4: I believe everything Matt has said. And if I'm being

708
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 4: accused of something, Alexis Jansen for the entire season, yes,

709
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 4: And I have the opportunity to defend myself. Slave goes

710
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 4: to the opening of an envelope.

711
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 3: So for material, you come up with some good material.

712
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 2: You know, like he goes to the opening of an envelope.

713
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 4: You mean to tell me that Slade decline to go

714
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 4: on the reunion stage, which, by the way, Alexis is

715
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 4: the highest rated episodes of the season.

716
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: It gets more views than all the other episodes. You

717
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: turned that down because you.

718
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 4: Didn't want to be seeing as somebody that wanted to

719
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 4: be Oh girl bye. So Matt, Matt is telling the story,

720
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 4: Alexis can't take it. Matt is telling the story and

721
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 4: Gretchen is constantly interrupting him, and I'm gonna get Alexa's

722
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 4: opinion on this, but I'm gonna what a pause by

723
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 4: saying this.

724
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: Rain drops.

725
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 4: If you're ever in a situation where there's two people

726
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 4: that are being accused of something, and if there's one

727
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 4: person who is constantly interrupting the other person's fact or

728
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 4: their views, rather the person who's doing the constant interruption

729
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 4: is the lie.

730
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 3: Guilty guilty charge, go ahead, Lexis guilty and a liar.

731
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was. It was. I was baffled also

732
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 3: by that, and I felt like, you know, because one

733
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: of the housewives leaned over and said something like, well,

734
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 3: Matt's shaking, just be quiet. That was wasn't that Shannon.

735
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: I don't remember which housewife now, but somebody lead that

736
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 3: please be quiet because he's shaking and let's just get

737
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 3: him off the set. He's shaking from fury and from

738
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: the fact that what they've gone through and the lies

739
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 3: that have been told, and how he wanted to go

740
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 3: there and to have a sit down with these other

741
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 3: her own men who didn't show up. So I I

742
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: thought he handled okay. So I've heard a lot of

743
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 3: where people think he defunct. I don't know what's the

744
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: word I want to use. I don't know where he

745
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: didn't do a great job. I personally thought him and

746
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 3: Katie handled it beautifully. I believe them a million percent

747
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: more than the other side. Yes, and I think that

748
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 3: I think that Jen and Gretchen have formed such a

749
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 3: tight bond that like, Jen's gonna stick by Gretchen and

750
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: go go with the the story as it was no

751
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 3: matter at Eddie cost.

752
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 2: I agree with that.

753
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 3: That is the part that I got to tell you

754
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: this though, and I want to ask you this. The

755
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 3: part that stinks for Katie is that she has lied

756
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 3: a couple of times. Yes, so the women now put

757
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: her in that box and it's like, yeah, we've got

758
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 3: to find a way to get her out of that box.

759
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: But I don't know how she can do that. That's

760
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 3: on her to figure out. But I do feel like

761
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 3: she's in this box where they just don't believe everything.

762
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 4: Katie will go down in history as the girl who

763
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 4: Quiet Wolf because she has been seen as a constant

764
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 4: liar and the one time she actually is telling the

765
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 4: truth is hard for the majority of the people, including

766
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 4: the women, to believe her because she has lied so much.

767
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 2: She lies about the nanny thing with well deeming the

768
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: nanny with Emily.

769
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 3: Wait did she really though, because I feel like Emily's

770
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 3: lying and that one well.

771
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: No, no, no, Emily's lying too.

772
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 4: But remember she said how she never DMed with the nanny,

773
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 4: and come and find out she said, oh, I did

774
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 4: check the I did check my dms and we were dmming.

775
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: And it's like, but that's a sad part.

776
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 4: She lies about the stupidest shit, and it's like, don't

777
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 4: lie about this, honey. Look, if you go to lie,

778
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 4: lie big don't lie about that.

779
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 3: Because I said to Johnny the other day, this is

780
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: so funny. I was, he wants me to take honey

781
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: every morning, this manuco. Johnny's really in this homeopathic stuff.

782
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 3: And so he is like, take the honey, and so

783
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 3: you have sugar ready, And I said yeah, and he goes, well,

784
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 3: did you really go go fill the spoon? It's still

785
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: on the sink and he goes, I go, I'm not

786
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 3: gonna lie about that, right, I go, wait, john that's

787
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: I don't mean that I'm not gonna lie about anything,

788
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: but I sure that he wouldn't lie about it if

789
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 3: I took my honey.

790
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't lie about them of you dang shit, because

791
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 4: it's something like, well, well are you keeping from me?

792
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: And I do think that's the unfortunate thing with Katie.

793
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 4: I disagree with anybody who thinks Matt did not do

794
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 4: a good job. I think Matt did such a good

795
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 4: job despite the fact that Gretchen constantly interrupted him and

796
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 4: the fact that Shannon listen.

797
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 2: I wish the audience.

798
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 4: Watched the show with with with their bias not attached

799
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 4: to it, because I want them to know that Shannon

800
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 4: telling Gretchen to be quiet, let him talk so he

801
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 4: can get out of there.

802
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: Shannon wants Gretchen to stay. Shannon doesn't care about the truth.

803
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: She cares about the alliance and the lines is I

804
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: want Gretchen on the show and not Katie.

805
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 4: Get this man out of here. Why is he here?

806
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 4: And that's the reason why that statement was made.

807
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely Yeah.

808
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 4: Now, I'm gonna be honest though, when Gretchen clocked it

809
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 4: and said, you want to talk about things you said

810
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 4: you said the moment you met, the second you met Eddie,

811
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 4: he's gay.

812
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: I do believe Matt said that.

813
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't if you met Matt. This is

814
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: why I think that was a great line for the

815
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 3: defense of Jen and Gretchen to make Matt look bad.

816
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 3: But if you have ever met Matt, first of all,

817
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 3: even after he knows, like when I saw him at

818
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: their party the other day, but less than a week ago,

819
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 3: when they were hosting the first reunion.

820
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 2: Watch party, watch party, up.

821
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: When I went up to Matt knowing Matt knowing that

822
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: Katie and I have this little beef about did I

823
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 3: hear the video audio or not? Okay, was completely kind,

824
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 3: did not say one word negative about any of those

825
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 3: women or anyone else on the show, just said, yeah,

826
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: it's been a really rough year, and I feel so

827
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: bad for my wife and and by the way, we've

828
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: got out with them many times last year. So I

829
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 3: had never heard him talk gossip talk bad. He asked

830
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: a lot of questions. He wanted to understand the process,

831
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 3: he wanted to know it all, but like, I just

832
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: don't feel like I can hear Matt saying, oh, Eddie's gay.

833
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 3: I just I don't feel like I could hear it

834
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 3: coming out.

835
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 2: Of his mouth.

836
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you why I believed it. I

837
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 4: believed it because this is where Matt did not deny it.

838
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 4: He did, Yeah, it was listen the way he look

839
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 4: at watch it again. He never in fadly said that.

840
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 4: I never said that. He sort of he was sort

841
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 4: of like, do you want to talk you want to

842
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 4: talk about that? Do you want to go there? You

843
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 4: want to talk about what really happened. It was sort

844
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 4: of like he was making room for I said it,

845
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 4: but within this context, which is why Katie said, no,

846
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 4: you're the one who was saying these things for all.

847
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 2: These years about Matt.

848
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 4: I Carlos King believe this is what happened at Mastros, right.

849
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 4: I believe that the three couples, Okay, we got Ryan, Jen, Gretchen, Slade,

850
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 4: Matt and Katie.

851
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: I believe the three of them and and and for.

852
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 4: The record, this is when Katie said that at this

853
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 4: appointed time of this Mastros dinner, Gretchen was not officially

854
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 4: asked to rejoin OC. I believe they all have this conversation.

855
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna be honest with you, Alexis, and I

856
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 4: know you'll be honest with me. All of us have

857
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 4: been at dinners with other housewives from other shows and

858
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: they talk shit about their castmates.

859
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: It happens. It's not it, it happens. I believe there

860
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: was talking about Tamarra.

861
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 3: It happens as much as when you drink water.

862
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: To be honest, a phone call tomorrow, like he's gonna

863
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 4: happen tomorrow.

864
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: I already know it happened yesterday. I believe. I believe.

865
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 4: Listen, I believe they were talking about Tamara hints, naked

866
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 4: waisted hints, the story. I believe that Gretchen and the

867
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 4: Slade said, yeah, we think he's gay, because Gretchen did

868
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 4: talk about that on the show years ago. And I

869
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 4: do believe Matt probably said in Jess. The second I

870
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 4: met him, I knew it.

871
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: I think it was like that.

872
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 3: And what is this whole Eddie is gay thing? Because

873
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: I am good friends with Eddie. I was hung out

874
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: with him for five hours yesterday. Do you think Eddie's

875
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 3: your gay? Do you?

876
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: I don't at all?

877
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 3: What is this? He is so in love with his

878
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: wife and he's not gay.

879
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he's gonna tell you what it is and

880
00:43:58,960 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: which is sad.

881
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 4: The moment of rumor is brought out there, it stays

882
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 4: with you and oh yeah, that's the fuck the part.

883
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, like like Shannon, Like Shannon paid for everything when John,

884
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 3: when we went into accounting and had a four hundred

885
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 3: and fifty thousand dollars, found out what John paid for

886
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 3: their three small, three year relationship. Yeah. No, Once that's

887
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: out there.

888
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: It's that's it.

889
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: Everybody thinks I pay for everything for John. I'm like,

890
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 3: if you all saw my bank account, holy crap. I'm like,

891
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 3: thanks John for giving me your credit card to come

892
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 3: to Vegas.

893
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 4: We love you, said, but I think that I Carlos

894
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 4: King do not believe for a second at eighties day.

895
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 4: I don't believe at all, but I think unfortunately, when

896
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 4: it comes to these reality shows, once the rumors put

897
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 4: out there, it sticks.

898
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: With you for life. And I think that's what's going on.

899
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 3: Say Kami yesterday, Sorry, I did not mean to cut

900
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 3: you off, but you know how I'm behind the scenes

901
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 3: here recapping with you from behind the scenes. I was

902
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 3: in the studio yesterday with the iHeart Studio and or Sweet,

903
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 3: and Eddie was there most of the day and that

904
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 3: came up. There were there's like tons of slubs coming

905
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 3: in and out and people going and moving and shaking,

906
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 3: and you know there's a lot going on. And you

907
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: know what Eddie's reaction was to it. He was like

908
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 3: he rolled his eyes. He just he just like was,

909
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I don't care. He's so confident in

910
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 3: his own skin and so in love with his wife,

911
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 3: he could care less about that stupid rumor. He like

912
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 3: rolled it off. He didn't get flustered or like, oh

913
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 3: I'm so sick of yeah, nothing, He just like whatever.

914
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 4: Because he's confident in his own skin and he knows

915
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 4: that it's stupid. And that's when you know that it's

916
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 4: not true, because the opposite reaction of constantly defending it

917
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 4: will look more suspicious.

918
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 2: So shout out to Eddie for just being like whatever,

919
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: I know who I am. I'm married to my wife.

920
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 3: And gay, then you can call me gay.

921
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And again, Clau gay is not the shade that

922
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 4: people think it is, and that's why I think it's

923
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 4: a silly thing to even try to use to attack somebody.

924
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 2: Katie is still in the hot.

925
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 4: Seat and at this point alexas they do get in

926
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 4: to the naked oated of it all, Andy did a

927
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 4: great job at succeedly explaining, based on both views, what

928
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 4: happened at Mascros, which is Katie's alleging that Gretchen talked

929
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 4: about the story and intimated, not intimated, but said that

930
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 4: she was drug and had to go to the hospital

931
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 4: where Gretchen's like, no, I said I felt uneasy and

932
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 4: I felt like I should have gone to the hospital.

933
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 4: At this point, listen is he says, she say, And

934
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 4: I feel like we're never going to get down to

935
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 4: what really happened. But based on that exchange, what did

936
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 4: you walk away from it? Did you walk away thinking

937
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 4: like I want to huntred percent? Believe Katie, I'm fifty percent,

938
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 4: I'm thirty five percent where are you with this?

939
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: I walked away thinking can we just get over this?

940
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: I'm so sick of talking about it, but I still

941
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: in it today. Feel that Katie did hear it, and

942
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: Gretchen did say it. She doesn't. You don't miss speak

943
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 3: in the back of a livel ride home from your

944
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 3: dinner party with two girls in the car and say hey,

945
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 3: the hospital and it's a miss speaking. That's like saying

946
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: I had sex with JR last night and oh I misspoke.

947
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: It's like, oh I just miss JR. I am day.

948
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 2: Actually I'm day.

949
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 3: But yeah, So it's like it's so you don't misspeak

950
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 3: about something like that. You could say I was drunk

951
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 3: and I don't even remember why that came out and

952
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 3: I was stupid. That would be way more believable, way

953
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 3: more credibility. Uh incredible. Uh So I one million percent

954
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 3: Gretchen has said it and and thinks, you know, felt

955
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: like maybe that she did get roofied when she does

956
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 3: drank too much tequila. I mean, that's just my thoughts,

957
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: and I'm on here to give you my thoughts.

958
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you.

959
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 4: Look, I think at the end of the day, I

960
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 4: think Gretchen and Slade just had an agenda to get

961
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: back on the show. I think it was a salacious story.

962
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: To ignite the producers and that's what happened.

963
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Glass, I think that I have to tell

964
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 3: you this though before I lose the thought. I think

965
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: that I think you're right where you're going. But here's

966
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 3: the thing. I think that they wanted to take Danra

967
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 3: down because they actually do have this vendetta against her,

968
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 3: where Tamara doesn't even want to bring up Gretchen's name.

969
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 3: I feel like Slade and Gretchen have had it out

970
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 3: for Tamra and they were like, look, if we get

971
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 3: back on, we're going to bring all this information on

972
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 3: and they thought it would stick and that America would

973
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 3: believe everything, and it was all it kind of backfired.

974
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: So now finishing because you were I.

975
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 4: Think, you know, I was, I was going there. I

976
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 4: think they just had an agenda to get back on

977
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 4: the show. I think they planted this. I think the

978
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 4: whole conversation of yes, you know, we had dinner and

979
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 4: it's the three of us, like, why is Gretchen even there? Yes,

980
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 4: Andy said, Gretchen did girls trip and we thought what

981
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 4: a great way for her to come back. That doing

982
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 4: Girls Trip when it was around, was sort of like

983
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 4: a back door invitation to getting back on the show.

984
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 4: We saw it happen with Tamra, we saw it happen

985
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 4: with Phedra. We've seen it happen with other women. So

986
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 4: I do believe that. But I also believe that. Look,

987
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 4: Gretchen and Slay had a salacious storyline that they thought

988
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 4: was going to make the show great and had no

989
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 4: idea it was going to backfire.

990
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: And I think.

991
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 4: Katie, unfortunately, being a new housewife, full into the traps.

992
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 4: I believe Matt when he talks about the text messages,

993
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 4: Gretchen constantly interrupting him, saying that, well, Slay told me this.

994
00:49:55,640 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 4: You're not a part of their conversation. You weren't like, you.

995
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,479
Speaker 2: Weren't there when they had their one on one phone

996
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 2: call by you guys in New Orleans.

997
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 3: He actually looks kind of silly to even be bringing

998
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 3: it up. She really did, because Matt's like, I love

999
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 3: MAT's response and so, okay, thank you, I have the

1000
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 3: text thing now what it says, you know, and He's

1001
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 3: just like, I think she looks silly being I thought so.

1002
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 2: Too, and it made me, you know, like stop.

1003
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: As we both know, Carlos Slade speaks for Gretchen and

1004
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 3: Gretchen speaks for slave. It's like they are they're they're

1005
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 3: literally like morphing into one character on the show.

1006
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 4: To me, yes, yeah, okay, last one for you don't

1007
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 4: know you gotta go. Do you believe that Jan fucked

1008
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 4: up Katie's paycheck because at the end of the reunion

1009
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 4: part two, Katie's like, you fucked on my paycheck, Jin

1010
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 4: because I wasn't able to film on the show anymore,

1011
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 4: and I was told that if I had at least

1012
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 4: one friend half my back, maybe there's a window open

1013
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 4: for you.

1014
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that?

1015
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 3: I asked this, like I have to think for a second,

1016
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 3: because this is you know, I just the rain drops. No,

1017
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 3: we don't have a script, and we don't talk before

1018
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 3: the show, so everything gets kind of we just we

1019
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 3: just go with the punches. But I here's what I

1020
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 3: do know from being on Housewives is when I got

1021
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: an invited to go to London last season eighteen, I

1022
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 3: did lose money because I am paid as a friend

1023
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: of you're paid a day rate, you're not paid a salary. Okay,

1024
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: so I lost like five or six days of filming,

1025
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 3: which was critical to my paycheck. Okay, when you're because

1026
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: your hair and makeup itself like costs a fortune. So

1027
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 3: I so I can understand that. I don't know they

1028
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 3: are the specifics of how these housewives are paid now.

1029
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 3: But if if Katie they get paid per episode, well

1030
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 3: then that fucked with Sorry to say that that messed

1031
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 3: with her paycheck then for sure one million percent because

1032
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 3: she I think all the women messed with her paycheck.

1033
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 3: Then it's they iced her out, even though they say no,

1034
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 3: we didn't do that. They iced her out and they

1035
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 3: messed with her paycheck. Then because she was not on

1036
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 3: two or three or four of the episodes, that's freakin' bs.

1037
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: That sucks.

1038
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Katie and Katie brought the majority of the first

1039
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 3: six or seven episodes.

1040
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, liften.

1041
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 4: I'll say this, Katie delivered this season. And when Katie

1042
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 4: was not a part of the show anymore, it wasn't

1043
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 4: as break because I'm with you. The gretchena tamer thing,

1044
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 4: which I was looking forward to. It's saw dark and

1045
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 4: there's no window of lack a reconciliation that it got.

1046
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 4: It got old really fast for me because I didn't

1047
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 4: care as much as I used to. The Katie thing

1048
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 4: gets felt so the Katie nique, all of that, all

1049
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 4: that to me was like so interesting that when Katie

1050
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 4: was removed from the show, it was sort of like,

1051
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 4: I don't I don't care as much about the dynamic

1052
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 4: and listen, Katie was not in approximately six to eight episodes,

1053
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 4: which is a lot of a lot of guys, that's

1054
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 4: a lot of money. These housewives are paid per episode.

1055
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 4: When you are a friend to the show, you get

1056
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 4: a day rate. That is a lot of money.

1057
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 3: So bothough me losing five days was a lot of

1058
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: money that I love for the small amount that you

1059
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 3: make as a friend of but for her to lose

1060
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 3: a date the whole episode rate, which I don't know

1061
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 3: what that is, but it's like that to me, just

1062
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 3: it's such a bummer, such a bug.

1063
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 2: It's money, it's money.

1064
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 4: And listens, That's why we talked about Jen and Ryan

1065
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 4: and it's like, yeah, Jen has a great paycheck now,

1066
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 4: but you never know what's going to happen.

1067
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: Katie did not go into the season thinking.

1068
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 4: That she's gonna be taking off the show after filming

1069
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 4: for six episodes, and I'm happy that she at least

1070
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 4: gets three paychecks for the three privent unions. But after

1071
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 4: the lexus, I wouldn't put the soul blame on Jen only.

1072
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 4: I get why she's blaming Jim because Jen is her

1073
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 4: friend and she was told that if you had at

1074
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 4: least one friend have your back maybe, so I get that.

1075
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: But I'm with Alexus. You have to blame everybody, just

1076
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 2: not Jim.

1077
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 3: All of them.

1078
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: Yep, all of.

1079
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 4: Them, Alexis. Listen, sister, go have fun on Brama Con.

1080
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 4: I'm a rad my weekend. If you want to call

1081
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 4: me and spill the tea to the rain drops.

1082
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 2: You let me know. I'm a phone call away.

1083
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 3: We have fun. We're gonna have a lot more dirt

1084
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Speaker 3: for next Friday to talk. Go out when before because

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you all the fun for the next

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Speaker 3: two days. So what's happening here? I'm sure there's gonna

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Speaker 3: be some more fun behind the scenes things.

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Speaker 2: So and tell col Richard I love her. When you

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Speaker 2: see her.

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Speaker 3: He's in my hallway. So I'm sure I'm going to

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Speaker 3: run into her again today and I will. I will

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Speaker 3: tell her all about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's my favorite housewife of all time.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Well, that's rude.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean no, no, no, Alexis, that's currently filming.

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Speaker 2: I say currently, she's my favorite current housewife. That's currently

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Speaker 2: like on the end.

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Speaker 3: You got out of that barely, like by the skin

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Speaker 3: on your teeth. Boy finished.

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Speaker 2: I love the Alexis.

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Speaker 3: Look at my hair, rain drops, Look at how much

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Speaker 3: hair Jr. Is adding? Just wait for this. Look he

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Speaker 3: just got bad, he just got mad at me. He's

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Speaker 3: studying my extensions. Oh my god, you.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye bye.

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

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Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with the Lack

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Speaker 1: Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube

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Speaker 1: channel at BI Carlos King Underscore