1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Showing up next our final News round Up and Information 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Overload hour. 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: All right, News round Up and Information Overload Hour. Here's 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 2: our toll free telephone number if you want to be 5 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: a part of the program. It's eight hundred nine to 6 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: four one sean. If you want to join us, we'll 7 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: get to your calls. Coming up this hour here it 8 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: is the second anniversary of October seventh, twenty twenty three. 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: And you know, one of the things I often talk 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: about on this program is we live in the greatest 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: best country God gave man, and we often take for 12 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 2: granted the liberties and freedoms that so many fault bled 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: and died for. And it's it's natural. I mean, you 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: don't wake up every day, ah, I live in freedom. 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: You know. 16 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: You wake up every you know, you get the kids dressed, 17 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: you get them ready for school, you pack that lunch. 18 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: You know, you you drive them to school, or you 19 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: get them to the bus stop, whatever it happens to be, 20 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: and then you go off. You put in your twelve, thirteen, 21 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: fourteen hours whatever you work every day and you come home, 22 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: you know, put a meal together quick, and then you 23 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: help them with their homework. And then you know, you 24 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 2: shuffle into bed. Hopefully you watch Hannity and your day's 25 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: done and you get up and you know, grind out 26 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: the next day, and you don't wake up and say, ah, 27 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: I live in freedom. However, when you have those quiet moments, 28 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: those reflective moments, those introspective moments which we all need 29 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: in life, you realize, Wow, we are blessed. We're blessed 30 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: beyond measure, blessed beyond what we deserve. And his freedom, 31 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: whose story is unbelievable, joins us. He wrote a brand 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: new book. We'll put it on Hannity Dot Comments, on 33 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 2: Amazon dot comments, and bookstores around the country. It's called 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: in the Name of Freedom, a political dissidence fight for 35 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: human rights in the NBA and around the world. Here 36 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: on the anniversary of October seventh, to talk about those atrocities. 37 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: But it tells the story of ns Kanter. And by 38 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: the way, he was honored at the Patriot Awards a 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: couple of years ago, and I spent time with him, 40 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: and I realized just how amazing he is and what 41 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: a life he's had. But you know, he came here 42 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: from Turkey and now he is an American citizen, Nobel 43 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: Peace Prize nominee, a fierce advocate for human rights, and 44 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: he paid a price for speaking out and refused to 45 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: stand as a native as his native country descended into 46 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 2: this authoritarian dictatorship. He made his opinion known to Erduwan 47 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: not a good guy in his regime, and they declared 48 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: him an enemy of the state. His father, still in Turkey, 49 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 2: was arrested, declared a terrorist, and his passport was revoked 50 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: as he you know, was made stateless anyway. And it's 51 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: great to have you back, sir. How are you? 52 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me sewn. I appreciate it. I'm good. 53 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 4: How are you well? 54 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: It's a sad day. I mean, it's a reminder, you know. 55 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: I mean, we're on the brink of maybe a deal 56 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 2: in the Middle East, and hopefully and prayerfully we hope 57 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: that that happens and the hostages that are both alive 58 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: and debt or released, and that maybe, you know, for 59 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: the first time, Arab countries will will step up and 60 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: help that region of the world. More hope than we've 61 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: ever had in my lifetime, for sure. But why don't 62 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: we go through your story. Let's talk about your life 63 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 2: and how you had a dream, how you made it 64 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: to the NBA and how you stood up against your country. 65 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: It was actually like we all started with a promise. 66 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 4: I remember I was nine years old. I went balanstairs 67 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: to play with my friends who are not even teenagers, 68 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 4: and my friends, my little friends. They were burning American flags, 69 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 4: they were breaking crosses, and I remember asked one of 70 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 4: my friends that, guys, what are you doing. They said, well, 71 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 4: that's what we see on TV. We should hate America, 72 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 4: we should hate the West, we should hate the Christians. 73 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 4: And I'm like, what's the reason. Well, they said, well 74 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 4: that's what our leader says. So I remember one of 75 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 4: my friends gave me a flag to burn it. He 76 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 4: gave me a flag, he gave me a lighter and 77 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: said burn it. I remember I just looked down and 78 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 4: threw the flag down. I ran upstairs to my mom. 79 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 4: I was like, Mom, my friends are telling me they 80 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 4: hate America, I hate the West, hate the Christians. What 81 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 4: do I do? My mom said, I'm not going to 82 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 4: tell you what to do, but do not hate anyone 83 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 4: before you meet them. So that day I give a 84 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 4: promise to my mom, and literally seventeen years later, for 85 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 4: the first time, I came to America as a teenager, 86 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: I start meeting with Americans. I started meeting with Christian 87 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 4: people for the first time, and I had realized that 88 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 4: everything that I've been learning back in Turkey is just false. 89 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 4: So now I dedicated my whole life to inspire and 90 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: educate the young generations so they can have a better 91 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 4: understanding of America, better understanding of what's going on around 92 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 4: the world, because especially Middle East is the easiest way 93 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 4: to brainwash people to use religion. The problem is not 94 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 4: Islam or anything. The problem is with the politicians, and 95 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 4: unfortunately they uses that heat to be re elected again. 96 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 4: And now I'm just literally dedicated my whole life to 97 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 4: this cause so I can inspire the next generation. 98 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: But the first time I do see hope, and I 99 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: really give a lot of credit to President Trump. You know, 100 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: this twenty point deal that he put together was not 101 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: an easy deal. There was a lot in there for 102 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: Israel that they had to swallow. A release of you know, 103 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: twelve hundred prisoners and people that they know of they're 104 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: sworn enemies, and disarming of Hamas and the return of 105 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: the prisoners. Well know, probably in the next forty eight hours. 106 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: If this deal is going to come to fruition. I'm hopeful. 107 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 2: I mean, we've never had so much hope. But he 108 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 2: has also built relationships with Jordan and Egypt and Saudi 109 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: Arabia and Qatar and the Emirates and other countries, maybe 110 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 2: not necessarily Turkey and Erdawan or although he did lecture 111 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: Dawan recently, which I found refreshing because I think he 112 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: needs it. I think he's become more radicalized as the 113 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: years have gone by, and why he's still a member 114 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: of NATO is somewhat surprising to me. What are your 115 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: thoughts as we as we listen to this, and I 116 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: want to play for you a pro Palestine pro haamas, 117 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: you know, as these protesters celebrate these October seventh attacks 118 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: here two years later, listen. 119 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 5: O resistant storm, legal settling and paraded across colonial organs. 120 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 5: Sill be great from the river to the scene palasid 121 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 5: well be great. Gory to the murders, to the murders. 122 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: It was incelerating, it was nager. They were accelerating. 123 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: By this, this challenge to the monopoly of Paris, by 124 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: this shooting of the Browns of power. 125 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: And they would not be your Hey god. 126 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 6: Kay, he. 127 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: Only ers. 128 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 6: Hey, I was P's Okay, that's all that. 129 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 4: Okay, I told myself. 130 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: From the River to the Sea means wiping Israel off 131 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: the map, you know, glory to the martyrs. You have 132 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: a mayoral candidate in New York that's leading the supports 133 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: of global Antifada. That means the elimination of Israel, wiping 134 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: it off the map, which is in Homaso's tarter. 135 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: What's your reaction to that, you. 136 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 4: Know, throut all this or throt all this. I still 137 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 4: think that, you know, the piece is possible, And I 138 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 4: just I'm really like training and hoping that I hope 139 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 4: the President Trump will step in and just bring this 140 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 4: deal h in and then actually, actually we can have 141 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 4: peace again, because like people need to understand and there 142 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 4: are you know, thousands of pens of thousands of innocent 143 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 4: people all on the streets are getting hurt on both 144 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 4: sides actually, you know, So I just hope, I'm just 145 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 4: hoping that, you know, peace is possible, but we just 146 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 4: need strong leaders. We just need strong leaders that president 147 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 4: topic it like black President Trump to step in and 148 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 4: says enough is enough, enough killings and we got to 149 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 4: stop it. I was listening as President Trump's one of 150 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 4: his interview and the reporter asked them which side are 151 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 4: you on? Are you on? You were in no Russia sides, 152 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 4: and he gives an amazing answer. He said, you know what, 153 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 4: I just want people to stop dying. What an amazing answer. 154 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 4: So I just hope with this deal as well. I 155 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 4: just hope that, you know, people will stop dying because 156 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 4: people behind the table are the ones that given the orders, 157 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: and innocent people on the streets are the ones that 158 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 4: get hurts. So we got we gotta do whatever we 159 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: can to bring awareness. And also like this kind of 160 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 4: in this kind of protest, I see like people are 161 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 4: burning American flags and stuff. What what a disrespectful moon 162 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 4: that is? Like you live in America and you're disrespecting 163 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 4: this countries right. It just breaks my heart, man. But 164 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 4: I just hope that you know, peace, we can bring 165 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 4: peace again. I believe. I'm hopeful that it's possible, and 166 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 4: I hope the present trumb will step and bring the 167 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 4: piece again to a Middle East. 168 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: Let's go back to your personal story. You talked about 169 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: your mom and your friends burning the American flag. Let's 170 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: go to your story and how you left Turkey, how 171 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: you made it to the NBA and how your family 172 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: is still to this day paying a price because you 173 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: were not subservient to Idawan and to the radicalism. 174 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 4: Oh man, you know. I mean it's been eleven years, John, 175 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 4: literally eleven years that I have not seen my mom, 176 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 4: my dad, or my sister. People keep talking about me 177 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 4: losing my career because I spoke about China's human rights 178 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 4: violations and how MBA is tied up with China and stuff, 179 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 4: and let people need to understand that I wanted to 180 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 4: stand up for the for the human rights violation of 181 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 4: political prisoners in Turkey. I have not seen my family 182 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 4: for eleven years. They put my dad in jail. You know. 183 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 4: Luckily that we put so much pressure from here to 184 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 4: Turkey they had to let them go. No, it's been, 185 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 4: it's been. I think the hardest thing that I've just 186 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 4: gone through is what my family has to face. You know, 187 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 4: my mom and my dad. 188 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: Do you still talk to them? 189 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 4: I can't because if I talk to my mom or dad, 190 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 4: if I pick up the phone, or if you have 191 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 4: any kind of connection with them, it's an act of 192 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 4: terrorism in Turkish government's eyes, you know. So that's why 193 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 4: I cannot even pick up my pick up a phone 194 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 4: and call my mom. You know, my brother plays basketball overseas, 195 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 4: so I have to call my brother, and my brother 196 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 4: has to tell me what's going on with my family. 197 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 4: You know, I can't even I can barely remember the 198 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 4: face of my mother right now. And I mean, I 199 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 4: understand Turkey is a very important ally to America, just 200 00:11:59,600 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 4: like you. 201 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 2: I would say important, and they have been more important 202 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: in the past, but as they become more radicalized, less 203 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: and less important in my mind. 204 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 4: I mean, this is the country like Turkey, this is 205 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 4: the dictator that gives passport to Comma's leader so they 206 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 4: can go in and out of European countries. This is 207 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 4: the leader that gives you know, trouvelods of weapons to 208 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 4: Muslim brotherhood, Like when are we going to stay enough? 209 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 4: Easy enough? And we have to take concrete actions against 210 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 4: this regime, you know, I understand. You know, we have 211 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 4: an American airbase, so whether I understand Turkey is a 212 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 4: NATO ally and the second strongest military in NATO, Like 213 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 4: we cannot just let a NATO ally help the teritial 214 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 4: organizations out there, you know. So I hope that when 215 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 4: this all conflict ends in Middle East, presence Trump, can 216 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 4: you know have like a serious conversation with Ardona and 217 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 4: push them to care about human rights violations in this country. 218 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 3: How did you make it to the NBA. 219 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 4: I went to Universital of Kia, Kentucky. I want to 220 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 4: give a huge shout out to John Calipari. He played 221 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 4: a very important role in my basketball career. After attending 222 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 4: one year of Universal Kentucky, I got drafted in twenty 223 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: eleven by Utah Chazz and then I played basketball since 224 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 4: you know. And the thing is, I worked so hard 225 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 4: my whole life to get it to NBA, and I remember, 226 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 4: it just breaks my heart have my career ended because 227 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 4: I really thought we have freedom in America. But it's 228 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 4: crazy that I started to talk about the problems are 229 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 4: happening in China and now I am out of the league. 230 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 4: I mean, it blows my mind. How the biggest dictatorship 231 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 4: in the world like China put a pressure on one 232 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 4: hundred percent American made organization like NBA and fire a 233 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 4: US citizen. I'm just very very confused with that. 234 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 3: Well, stay right there, ands freedom is with us. 235 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: He has a brand new book out in the Name 236 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: of Freedom, a political dissonance fight for human rights in 237 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: the NBA and around the world. We'll pick it up 238 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: where he left off on the issue of why he's 239 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: not playing in the NBA right now and the influence 240 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: that outside political influences that impacted him. Quickbreak right back 241 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: will continue anyway, and his freedom is with us. In 242 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: the name of Freedom is brand new book, a political dissonance, 243 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: fight for human rights in the NBA and around the world. 244 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: If you missed the first part of our interview, he's 245 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: not been able to talk to his family for eleven years. 246 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: He's a political exile from Turkey now an American citizen 247 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: playing in the NBA. Played in the NBA. What happened 248 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: that got you out of the NBA? 249 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: What was it? In particular? 250 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: Because I remember at the time when this happened, I'm thinking, 251 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: this doesn't make sense. 252 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 4: Well, I didn't lose trust me. I didn't lose my 253 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 4: place in the NBA because I couldn't play. I lost 254 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 4: it because I chose to speak up. You know, when 255 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 4: I spoke out against all the human rights about abuses 256 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 4: by the Chinese government. I mean, I knew it might 257 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 4: cost me something, but I never imagine it will cost 258 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 4: me my career. You know, more people watch NBA games 259 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 4: in China than American population last year. So NBA makes 260 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 4: billions of dollars from Jersey sales, shoe sales, TV deals. 261 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 4: And this was never about politics or take inside. It 262 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 4: was literally about something for literally basic human dignities, you know, 263 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 4: for the people who cannot speak freely, who are selves 264 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 4: or simply wanted to live with freedom and respect. So 265 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 4: I had been a conversation with my teammates, many conversations 266 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: from the NBA front offices, and they all said the 267 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 4: same thing that that listen, we believe what you're saying, 268 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 4: but it's going to cost us millions of dollars. So 269 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 4: you can never say anything about the Chinese government or 270 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 4: nineties hypocrisies. I mean, I'm talking about the sweatshops. So 271 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 4: it's sad to me because I was twenty nine years 272 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 4: old when I started to speak up and my agent 273 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 4: called me and he said, listen, I work for you. 274 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: I don't work for the NBA, So I gotta be 275 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 4: honest with you. If you say another word, if you 276 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 4: say another word about the Chinese government, you're not going 277 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 4: to play basketball ever again in MBA. And this is 278 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 4: going to cost you between forty to fifty million dollars. 279 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 4: The choice is yours. I hang up the phone. I 280 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 4: never talk to him again. You know, it's crazy to 281 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 4: me how much how much some organization and entities, and 282 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 4: it's controlled by the Chinese government. I'm talking about NBA 283 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 4: and Hollywood and academias and Big Tag and farmland. So 284 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 4: I was like, I got to expose their hypocrisies. 285 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: What is it about you that you would do well? 286 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 2: Probably maybe one percent of other NBA players would never do. 287 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 4: I mean, like empathy. I put myself in other people's shoes. 288 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 4: While we are comfortably living in this country, living in 289 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 4: the most luxurious houses and eating the most delicious food, 290 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 4: and it's lipping in the most warmert bed. On the 291 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 4: other side of the world, people are losing their loved ones, 292 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 4: losing their lives and losing their homes, you know, especially like, 293 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 4: especially like people in China. I'm gonna look at Oigers, 294 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 4: three million oigers in concentration camp waiting for help. Look 295 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 4: at Tibetans, look at what's happened in Hong Kong, look 296 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 4: at Taiwan. So this was bigger than myself, bigger than basketball, 297 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 4: bigger than NBA. I mean, I might have loved basketball, 298 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 4: but I found something bigger. I've voiced a purpose and 299 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 4: the understanding of freedom that is not guaranteed. It's something 300 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 4: that we must defend even when it's hard, you know, 301 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 4: And I hope this story. You know, it costs me 302 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 4: like forty fifty million dollars. It cost me my basketball 303 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 4: career or my family. I mean, listen, I care about 304 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 4: the future of our country. I care about our world. 305 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 4: If you want to have a better and brighter future, 306 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 4: we have to inspire and educate the next generation. So 307 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 4: we've got to do whatever we can to tell these 308 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 4: people that freedom is very fragile and we should not 309 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 4: take it for granted, and we have to put ourselves 310 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 4: in other people's shoes on the other side of the world. 311 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: What do you make of this rise of anti Semitism 312 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 2: in the halls of Congress? As I said, it's happening 313 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: on college campuses, it's happening, it's growing worldwide. It I 314 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 2: hear it in the punditry, class people on radio and 315 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: TV saying, you know, things that to me are extraordinarily ignorant. 316 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not. 317 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: Sure what part of murder, rape, torture, kidnapping, beheading. As 318 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 2: I said, they don't understand. But what do you make 319 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: of it? 320 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I listen, I have so many Jewish runs 321 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 4: around the world, and I'm actually having conversations with many 322 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 4: of them, and they're scared. They're even scared to go 323 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 4: to a synagogue. They're scared to go outside, they're scared 324 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 4: to you know, even like a where a Jewish star 325 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 4: as a necklace. And it just it's it's horrible, man, 326 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 4: you know, it's it breaks my heart how much our 327 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 4: world is divided right now when people literally hate each 328 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 4: other with without knowing the other side. And but I 329 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 4: mean that's why we we need bridge builders instead of walls. 330 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 4: Listen as also, like people need to understand this, like 331 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 4: very clearly, like our profit, like not many people know 332 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 4: about this our profit profit Muhammed right, he said, when 333 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 4: we go to war, we have rules. When among them 334 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 4: go to war, we cannot kill ABIs or women, elderly people. 335 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 4: We cannot knock down religious temples or church. We are 336 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 4: not allowed to even chill animals or cut on trees. 337 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 4: And this is our profit. If someone or a group 338 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 4: that goes against this mentality, they don't represent Islam. So 339 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 4: I don't I can clearly say that Hamas does not 340 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 4: represent Islam. Period. 341 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 2: Let me ask you about this, because I think there's 342 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 2: a misunderstanding. I always make a distinction between Islam and 343 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: radical islamis because there is a difference. And why do 344 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: you think so many people have been indoctrinated into And 345 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 2: I believe one of the reasons that I think Arab 346 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: nations have been reluctant to absorb part of the Palestinian population. 347 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: And I've shown this on TV many, many times, is 348 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: from the time children are born, for example, in Gaza, 349 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 2: they are shown cartoons that depict Jewish people in the 350 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 2: most you know, repulsive ways. When they go to school, 351 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: I've seen school books and I've shown them on TV. 352 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 2: You know, basically it's like, oh, if you have ten Jews, 353 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: you kill seven, how many more Jews do you have 354 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 2: left to kill? And that indoctrination is poisoned the minds 355 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: of young children. And I think there's been reluctance and 356 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: resistance among neighboring nations to absorb that population because they 357 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 2: don't want the radicalization in their country. They already have 358 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 2: problems with radicalization, right. 359 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 4: I mean, so, I mean, if you look at like 360 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 4: It's very funny because it doesn't happen in Turkey, but 361 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 4: in some of the Middle Eastern countries, in schools form 362 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 4: of classes, feel like you have an American flag and 363 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 4: if you don't step on this flag, you're not even 364 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 4: allowed to You're not even allowed to attend the class, 365 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 4: and you will get bullied the rest of the school years, 366 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 4: you know. So it starts with at a very early 367 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 4: age when these dictatorships, unfortunately just brainwashes the populations that 368 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 4: who are on a dated and then and then pictures 369 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 4: to West as A as a demon, you know, as 370 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 4: a as a monster, and every kid growing up is 371 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 4: believing that and like Islam itself is not the problem. 372 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 4: The extremism is, you know, and people who uses Islam 373 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 4: or the Holy Book of Crown to brainwash people is 374 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 4: the problem. Or the Islam itself is not the problem, 375 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 4: you know, because Islam is keep I mean according to 376 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 4: what I read that. I mean, I just told you 377 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 4: that before we cannot like go to wars and do 378 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 4: what Hamas did, or do what hespitalizes doing, or do 379 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 4: what isis is doing, you know. So I hope to 380 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 4: me that people understand the true meaning of Islam. And 381 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 4: just just trying to wipe out that radicalism or extremism 382 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 4: in our in our society. 383 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: Well, it's pretty unbelievable because there is a distinction and 384 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: a difference, and I you know, we all have to 385 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 2: eventually just come to terms with and understand that we 386 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 2: have to live together. And do you see that day 387 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: now beginning to approach Also. 388 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 4: Like I mean, radical ideologies feed on hate and power, 389 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 4: not on faith or I think spirituality. Also, like I 390 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 4: think extremeism, like many played religion for political personal gains, 391 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 4: and that's what all the all the leaders of those 392 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 4: groups are doing. It. They twist like teachings to justify violence. 393 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 4: So no true faith calls for the killing of innocence 394 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 4: or no true believers celebrates suffering. So if someone does that, 395 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 4: they don't represent true Islam. 396 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I've really urge people. 397 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: First of all, you're a very special human being, and 398 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: I really urge people to get a copy of your book. 399 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: It's called in the Name of Freedom, a Political Dissonance 400 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: Fight for Human Rights in the NBA and around the world. 401 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: It's on Hannity dot com right now, it's on Amazon 402 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: dot com right now, and it's in bookstores now as 403 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: of today all across the country, and you know, you 404 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: don't really meet many people that really stand on core 405 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: values and principles and put it all on the line, 406 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 2: and as you're one of them. And I applaud you 407 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: for all that you have been doing and will do 408 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: as you continue your incredible journey. I think God obviously 409 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: has big plans for you in your life, and you're 410 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: an inspiration everybody, And I just want you to know 411 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: how much we appreciate you. I hope everyone will go 412 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 2: out and get this book and read it and have 413 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 2: a deeper understanding and appreciation of the blessings of liberty 414 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: that we were born with and probably too often take 415 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 2: for granted. 416 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: And it's freedom. Thank you, my friend. 417 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. 418 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 5: Man. 419 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 4: I appreciate that. 420 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 2: Eight hundred and nine four one, Shawn our number if 421 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: you want to be a part of the program. Don 422 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: is in Oklahoma, Don High, How are you glad you called? 423 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 3: Star? 424 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: Hey, Sean, thanks for taking my call. My pen drop 425 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: is actually out far western Oklahoma with some of the greatest, 426 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: friendliest patriots in the country, right up there with the 427 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: people of South Alabama. My heart goes out to the 428 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: people in New York City, because man Donnie's gonna soon 429 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: make good on his promise to make bus rides free 430 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: in the city. But the problem is there won't be 431 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: any seats on the bus because it'd be full of homeless. 432 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: Air conditioning in the summer, heated in the winter. It's 433 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: gonna be madness. And I think Linda's right in the 434 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: middle of this mess. And I'd love to get Linda's take. 435 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: And she's got friends, and she has to go to 436 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: the city, and. 437 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: How so she doesn't She actually doesn't have to go 438 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: to the city. She actually lives in Pennsylvania. He chooses 439 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 2: to go to the city. She refuses to listen to 440 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: her boss. 441 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: I just thought she may have friends there that she 442 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: travels to the city. But you know, unless you're flying 443 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: in and taking an uber, I don't know how you're 444 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: gonna get around once. But all the transportation is going 445 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: to be full of homeless, and it's inevitable. 446 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's pretty full. Now. There's a lot of homeless. Now, 447 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 6: there's a lot of homeless on the subway. There's a 448 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 6: lot of rats on the platforms. The trains are a mess. Unfortunately, 449 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 6: you know, Hulkel is already a complete and utter loser, 450 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 6: and you know people are getting murdered, stabbed. You just 451 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 6: have to have your eyeballs open. Mom, Donnie's just going 452 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 6: to make it worse because people are going to feel 453 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 6: like they have no accountability because he's you know, going 454 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 6: to shut down all the prisons. We're not going to 455 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 6: you know, prosecute anything. So that's my bigger fear. 456 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: Well, I answer your question don that way now, Well, 457 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm just so sorry it's that way now. It's it's 458 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: that it can only get worse once it's free. Agreed, 459 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: you get what you vote for, right, And my heart 460 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: goes out to those folks. But maybe we need this 461 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: for three or four years before the eyeballs are open. 462 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 2: So it's rough, there's no doubt about it. I'm just 463 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: out of time, though, I appreciate your call. I want 464 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 2: Curtis to win to Linda. You know what, it's an 465 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: uphill battle, but I'm telling people, you got you got 466 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 2: to try. We've got to what we've been doing these 467 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 2: last three years. All right, that's gonna wrap things up 468 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: for today. Heated hearings with Pam Bondi. Today we get 469 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 2: reaction FBI Director Cash Bettel Todd Blanche Number two at 470 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 2: the DOJ, Lindsey Graham Tonight, Senator Kennedy, Tommy larn and 471 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 2: John Solomon say you DVR nine Eastern Hannity on Fox. 472 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 2: Will see in a night back here tomorrow. Thank you 473 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 2: for making this show possible.