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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: scripted as well. Hey, their rain drops on today's episode

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King. I am super stoked to talk

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Speaker 1: about this episode because I have to have so many

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Speaker 1: thoughts and I am going to go on record saying this,

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Speaker 1: and I would love to get Alecxi with the Leni's opinion.

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Speaker 2: Who is here?

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Speaker 3: Hey Alexa, Hey.

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Speaker 2: Alexis you are a hit amongst the rain drops? Have you?

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Speaker 2: I know?

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Speaker 3: Do you like to puff up my ego? I know

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Speaker 3: that I know.

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Speaker 2: No, You're listed your person.

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Speaker 1: I send stuff to him because I love the fact

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Speaker 1: that you're You don't be comments.

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Speaker 2: I don't because I don't think any reality starts to

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Speaker 2: be comments. I just I just think it could be dangerous.

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Speaker 1: You appearing on Reality with the King every Friday to

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Speaker 1: break down OC Housewives has really made people say, Carlos,

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Speaker 1: I must admit I wasn't sure about Alexis. I love

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Speaker 1: her on this platform. I love her inside.

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Speaker 2: So no, people, and I'm not just kissing your ass.

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Speaker 2: I'm not blowing smokes from your mask.

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Speaker 1: Like like, people are really enjoying our recaps and I

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Speaker 1: just want to I can't say thank you enough for

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Speaker 1: for doing this.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, we're raw, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 3: I listened to it and I'm like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: did I really say that? Oh I did.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's all.

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Speaker 1: Always loved you. So listen, I am going to say this.

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Speaker 1: The real house Bonds of Orange County is on fire.

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Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with this, Gabe, and Alexis was right.

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Speaker 2: I was wrong.

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Speaker 1: The Live Detective test was actually genius and what it

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Speaker 1: brought us Alexis was a great commentary and I cannot

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Speaker 1: wait to break it all.

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Speaker 3: Downy Listen, I brought receipts, so you better sit back

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Speaker 3: and put that seat belt on. Okay, you don't like this,

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Speaker 3: I'm a receipt girl.

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Speaker 2: Well let's let's let let's let's go there, Let's go there,

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Speaker 2: let's go there.

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Speaker 3: So no, just what I mean, We'll get there whatever

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Speaker 3: you are.

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Speaker 1: Listen if I if I don't get there, please please

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Speaker 1: take me to the destination.

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Speaker 2: But the receipts can be read. Okay. So the episode

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Speaker 2: opens up with Katie telling Jin that she feels the

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Speaker 2: live Detective Test people are paid actors.

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Speaker 1: She's providing hit shots of these people screenshots, and she

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Speaker 1: says she thinks she was set.

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Speaker 2: Up by Gina and Emily.

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Speaker 1: Love to get your thoughts, but I want to start

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Speaker 1: by saying this, And I love the fact that he

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Speaker 1: de bro even said, like, look, my husband is a doctor.

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Speaker 1: He's also I mean in real life, he's also a

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Speaker 1: doctor on television.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't make him a paid actor.

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Speaker 1: The beauty of his podcast is listen, you guys are

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Speaker 1: speaking to a producer. Not everybody wants to be a

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Speaker 1: reality television So when you find somebody, whether it's a therapist,

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Speaker 1: a log detective test examiner, a guy in acologist, a teacher,

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Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, it's easier to reuse people

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Speaker 1: who have the reality TV experience because not only are

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Speaker 1: they easier to work with in the sense of they understand, Look,

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Speaker 1: I get what I need to do. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: go up there, be myself, do my job, keep it moving.

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Speaker 1: You guys don't understand the vetting process it takes in

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Speaker 1: clearing these people, releasing these people. So look, I just

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Speaker 1: want to go on record saying that just because you

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Speaker 1: does not make them a paid actor. But Alexis, what

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Speaker 3: So I kind of feel torn about that one, to

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Speaker 3: be honest, because I do I do believe that there's

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Speaker 3: been a little manipulation in the whole thing. Okay, I

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Speaker 3: don't know. I'm not a light detector test person, but

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Speaker 3: doing some research on her own, okay about light detector tests.

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Speaker 3: So don't have daylight and me as going it's in

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Speaker 3: reality and I was supposed to be a detective. I

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Speaker 3: don't know what the problem is here, but anyway, I'm

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Speaker 3: a timeline of the light detector test, okay, is it

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Speaker 3: lasts one point five to two point five hours for

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Speaker 3: With seven housewives and only two poliographers, okay, around four

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Speaker 3: legit polygraph tests. That means these women would have been

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Speaker 3: there pretty much all night because there's three phases to

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Speaker 3: So under my calculations, I don't think these tests were

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Speaker 3: boot camp because that whole flight detector test I took

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Speaker 3: through phase one okay, my white detector test, So there

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Speaker 3: you go. So just saying, especially with the fact that

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Speaker 3: Katie failed the whole thing and Gretchen passed with flying colors,

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Speaker 3: that right, there's enough to just squash them out for

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Speaker 3: me anyway. But then when I did the research, I

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Speaker 3: why I'm glad they did it. It was still fun.

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Speaker 2: First of all, alexis the limo I need you in

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Speaker 2: my life every week.

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Speaker 4: Okay, the look dagging got my girl got the receipts, okay,

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Speaker 4: So to break it down to us again, you're saying

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Speaker 4: that in order to have a polygraph test where the

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Speaker 4: in which the person can you know, say, you know

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Speaker 1: Need to you need to at least that person in

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Speaker 1: order to test the blood pressure, you know, the all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's a pretest, there's then a okay, hold on, oh,

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Speaker 3: like I said, seven housewives and two polygraphers, they would

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Speaker 3: of a legit test. We're not talking phases two and three.

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Speaker 3: So there you go, I'm done with my receipt for

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Speaker 3: the rest for the rest of the pod, I'm done

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Speaker 3: with my receipts Carlos.

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Speaker 2: Okay, oh well we have to break this down. I

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Speaker 2: love it. Okay, So I do want to say this

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Speaker 1: Can follow when Katie a list that they're paid actors. Again,

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Speaker 1: I'm just confirming that because someone appears on multiple reality

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Speaker 1: to debunk that they're not paid actors, right, agree.

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Speaker 2: So that's that.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: What Alexis did that is the best, most amazing thing

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Speaker 1: she is saying doing her research that is factual.

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Speaker 2: Guys that yes.

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Speaker 1: While these people are real, live detective test examiners, However,

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Speaker 1: in order.

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Speaker 2: To successfully get the results, one needs to be held

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Speaker 2: up in the point of law.

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Speaker 1: That person needs to at least be strapped to the

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Speaker 1: comes to Katie Janella and she says that she believes

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Speaker 1: you believe lead that to be true?

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I believe that there might have been

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Speaker 3: some manipulation done for those tests. I personally do because

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Speaker 3: I don't think Katie failed every single question. I don't

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Speaker 3: think Gretchen got every single question correct. So I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying they're paid actors either. I agree with you, Yes,

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Speaker 3: they probably got paid to do their job to go there,

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Speaker 3: So that's where my detective hat went on, and I said, Okay,

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Speaker 3: they may not be paid actors, that there might have

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Speaker 2: No listen, And that's the reason why I listen. I

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Speaker 1: I give the network and the producers their props for even.

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Speaker 2: Allowing the women to debump this. Do you know what

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Speaker 1: Like the fact that they're able to say on camera like, look,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe this. I think they're paid actors, don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe in log detective tests. I don't believe

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Speaker 1: the results were accurate. I love the fact that they said, look,

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Speaker 1: interesting to me. However, the most interesting thing to me

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Speaker 1: and she is telling Jen, look, you were there. Katie's

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Speaker 1: a legend that Gretchen was again said she went to

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Speaker 1: said she got a toxicology report and allegedly they found

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Speaker 1: something in her blood. And Katie said, verbato, Alexis I

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Speaker 1: will die on that, which there's not one person in

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Speaker 1: the world that I'm going to die for in terms

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Speaker 1: of lying on them.

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Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you. Do I think Katie's

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Speaker 2: a liar?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I also, though believed Gretchen lied about this too.

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Speaker 1: Two things can be true.

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Speaker 2: I strongly believe in my gut as a producer, as

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Speaker 1: Believe Gretchen told Katie something along the lines of that story.

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Speaker 2: What do you believe, well think.

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Speaker 3: Of about this, Carlos. It's too detailed of a It's

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Speaker 3: not just Gretchen, you know. Gretchen said she went to

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Speaker 1: have conversations about this. And the fact that before Katie

436
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: walked in, you saw Jen and Gretchen waiting on her.

437
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: It's very plausible.

438
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: And now again Katie is I believe Katie's vindicated when

439
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: it comes to the story everything else. I do believe

440
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 1: Katie told Kiki Monique, who was on my podcast this week,

441
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: I believe that although although Katie saying she would die

442
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: on the hill, that she never told Kiki that that

443
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: that's why I'm like, Uh, Katie has life on Alexis.

444
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: I believe that, I will say, when it comes to

445
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: this story, I believe Katie's vindicated, and I think I

446
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 1: think Matt did a wonderful job standing up for his wife,

447
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: but standing up for the truth by revealing Ryan's name

448
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: in it, because that now implicates Jim.

449
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 3: I agree with you. I agree with you, And I

450
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: also think that I think that you can be a

451
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 3: ten percent liar or a twenty percent liar and an

452
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: eighty percent truth teller. So maybe Katie's gotten caught up

453
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 3: and a lot of lies, so that puts her in

454
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 3: the twenty percent bracket. I don't know, we'd have to,

455
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: But then I do believe you can also still tell

456
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 3: the truth. And it's it's time to move on from

457
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: the Katie of it all, though, like right, like, can't

458
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 3: we just you know, I even like what Emily said,

459
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 3: can we just pop into twenty twenty five, Like let's

460
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 3: stop doing back, you know, twelve years ago thing with

461
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 3: Gretchen and camera. Can we also do that with Katie

462
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 3: and just move forward, you know, in the story.

463
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: So and it's what's needed, is what's needed because I

464
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: do Listen, two thieves can't be true. Katie did a

465
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: horrible job at presenting herself to be a person that

466
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: tells the truth. Right, She did a horrible job setting

467
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 1: herself up as that. Sorry, Katie, you did okay. However, however,

468
00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: Katie in this instance happens to be telling the truth.

469
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: But it's so like the boy who cried Wolf?

470
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

471
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: And I and I think that's who Katie has become.

472
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: And what's unfortunate is before the aha moment, I was

473
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: gonna say this about Jen, how there's a part of

474
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: me that has this empathy for Jen because and I

475
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: want to ask you this, actually, Alexis, I don't know

476
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: what it's like to be a housepight. I know what

477
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 1: it's like to produce them, but it's very different when

478
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: you're on the show. You mentioned last week that broke

479
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: the Internet that yes, Carlos, we there are aligances like you.

480
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: You formed these friendships and you sort of side with

481
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: this person because you you you want you want, you

482
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: want somebody on your side, You want somebody on your team.

483
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: When when Jen said she could not run after Katie

484
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: when Emily kicked her out. The only reason why I

485
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: do have a soft spot for Gin is because I

486
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: don't know what it's like to be around these women.

487
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: You are confused, is Katie telling the truth? They did

488
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: say Katie failed miserably the live detective test, But you

489
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: also want to be friends with these women, and you

490
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: do not want to be on an island. And that's

491
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: why I felt bad for Jin, because it's hard to

492
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: be a housewife on these shows and be ostracized.

493
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 2: Do you go ahead? No, tell me? Tell me now?

494
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 3: So what were you gonna ask you?

495
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: What I was gonna ask you?

496
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: Do you do you understand why Jen perhaps felt stuck

497
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: to not go after her friend, but also like, I

498
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: also don't.

499
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 2: Want to lose my friendship with the rest of these women.

500
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 3: I've put myself in that pose, it like in Jen's

501
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 3: spot on that exact day, and I'm like, if I

502
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 3: would have been there, what I have gone after Katie?

503
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: And even knowing just out of pure human decency, knowing

504
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 3: that I've been the one ostracized, knowing that I've been

505
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: the one you know twice now cause on season I

506
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: think it was season seven, they all ganged up on me.

507
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: And then last season you know, nobody believed me, and

508
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 3: I got you know, got breathed whatever, but so twice now,

509
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 3: and I just feel like human decency would be she

510
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: just got kicked out, she just failed a lie detector

511
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: test like so many you know things. I would probably

512
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 3: still have gone after her, just to say, just gone

513
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 3: out and said, hey, you know this is tough. I

514
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: know it, I get it, I get it all. We've

515
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 3: got to get to the bottom of it, though, because

516
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 3: there's been too many lives and then you know, we're there.

517
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm confused. Jen could have said that,

518
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 3: but I just don't think you could. I just felt

519
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: really bad that that Katie was alone and you know,

520
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: seeing her crying to producers and not one of the

521
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: housewives went after her, you know, I or just to

522
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 3: check in. They don't. You don't have to be all

523
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 3: her best friend now and say oh, I forget everything

524
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: you've you've done in the past. But you can at

525
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 3: least console her and say, I know that was that

526
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 3: had to be tough, you know. Yeah, And how is

527
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: Emily like sleep at night knowing that she was not

528
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: mean kicked her out? Like I like, that's just so

529
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: I just I don't like it when the show goes

530
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 3: like high school, when it goes to where it's such

531
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: a like a not a normal situation, because you're not

532
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 3: really going to kick somebody out of your house like

533
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: that if you're having a luncheon and a light detective

534
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 3: test and you're all sitting around laughing, even if you

535
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 3: fail the whole thing. I don't see a world where,

536
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 3: you know, forty to sixty year old women are going

537
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: to be kicking people out of a party. It just

538
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: drives me crazy.

539
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: No, it's said, and you and I both said the

540
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: same thing last week, How like, who the fuck do

541
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: you think you.

542
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: Are Emily to do that to somebody?

543
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: And listen, it's backfiring on them, It's not. It has

544
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: to been a good couple of weeks for them. Jin

545
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: last week, Alexas not sure if you saw it. She

546
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: went on Instagram and told people to pretty much, you know,

547
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 1: leave her alone.

548
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: If you don't like her anymore, just un.

549
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: Follow her and tag Katie. It is evident that she's

550
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: unable to handle it. A lot of people have said

551
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: that Jen went from fan favorite to most hate it.

552
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: It's a fall from grace. You know what it's like

553
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: for people to be mean on social media. What advice

554
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: do you give someone like Jen who is experiencing a

555
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: lot of hatred from people.

556
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 3: Aline, Well, you know, I saw her video and I

557
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: don't I'm not on Instagram a ton. I mean, I'm

558
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: the worst instagrammer about like commenting on people's posts and

559
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 3: going through and scrolling because I get on and I

560
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: get addicted and I'll for like six hours. Okay, I

561
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: don't have that off switch, so I just don't go on.

562
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 3: I'll post one or two things about me or what's

563
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,239
Speaker 3: happened in my life, and then I'm off right. But

564
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 3: that for some reason, when I opened my screen, that

565
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 3: did pop up, and it does work randomly, and i'll i'll,

566
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 3: you know, comment on cameras or comment on Katie's or

567
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 3: gins or whatever. But it's very rare. But anyway, I

568
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 3: did DM her on that on not DM oh. Yeah,

569
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: I commented on her on herdo I hearted it, and

570
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: I just said something like I'd have to get on

571
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 3: my phone right now to look at me if I

572
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: can remember, something like I feel for you, stay strong

573
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: and just know this too shall pass or something like that,

574
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: and then she just, you know, sit back and was like,

575
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: how did you handle this? And I was like, I

576
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: cried every night, and I hibernated and cried every night,

577
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 3: you know, because that's the reality and when you're getting

578
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: when you go from people loving you like they did

579
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 3: when I first came back last season, to not getting

580
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: a full story shown so that then they don't really

581
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,959
Speaker 3: see everything that's transpiring, and then becoming the most hated

582
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 3: is very, very difficult. And so I did cry a lot,

583
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: I did hibernate, I did lose five pounds, you know.

584
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: So it does affect people. And I do feel sorry

585
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 3: for Jin, regardless of what she did, because they're just

586
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,239
Speaker 3: people are so mean. It's just like kicking Katie out

587
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: of a party when you're forty and sixty years old.

588
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: I don't like what people sit behind their iPads or

589
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 3: their or their phone and our bullies on you know,

590
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: on trolling. So Jin just has to stay strong and

591
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 3: it will pass. And I mean, you know, I hope

592
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: the Herd Katie do reconcile. I don't know if they have,

593
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: but I hope that they do by the end of

594
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: the season.

595
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: But we'll see, Yeah, we'll see.

596
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: But now thank you for sharing that because that does

597
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: help and listen, guys, it's great to have an opinion.

598
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: Alexis and I have one, but look.

599
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: Don't run the gamut of like being super mean.

600
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: And yes, I know you're saying, but Carlos, they mean

601
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: to Katie, I get it, but it doesn't mean you

602
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: have to match the energy. So I do want to

603
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 1: move on to Tamar and Gretchen's one on one that

604
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: they had on the beach. Tamarra and Gretchen said down

605
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: away from the girls and they talked about their you know,

606
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: decade plus long beat.

607
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: Tamra said that, you know.

608
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: We need to address exactly what our issues are, and

609
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: they just pretty much brought up everything that happened to

610
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: mean them all these years, from Tamra saying that she

611
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: saw Gretchen sit on a man's lap and kiss him

612
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: while Gretchen was engaged to Jeff to saying that Slade

613
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 1: is a did be dead, Gretchen saying that Eddie is

614
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: gay and bringing some guy to bringing some guy and

615
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: say that he saw he saw some things to Slade,

616
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: you know, calling Tamar fat. It was it was sort

617
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: of like, these are the things that we're talking about.

618
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: One thing that I was like, I thought this was

619
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: too much.

620
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: Is when Gretchen said that Slade is unable to get

621
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: work because of things that Tamar said, I just called

622
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: bullshit on that.

623
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Carlos.

624
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: I threw up a little in my mouth when I

625
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 3: saw that, because it's like, I'm like, Okay, hold on, Gretchen,

626
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: hold on. First of all, great job of playing victim role.

627
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: Very good job there again, victim, victim, victim. Your middle

628
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: name is victim. So anyway, people get felonies, Carlos, Okay,

629
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 3: people go to jail and get out of jail and

630
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: get jobs. I plug one of my neighbors down the

631
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 3: street probably did that. Okay, bad telling me that's words,

632
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 3: Camera's words of calling him a deadbeat dad and label

633
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: it like like you know, name calling him a thing

634
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 3: is so powerful, so crazily uh strong. That horse Laye

635
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: just can't get work anymore because when people scroll through

636
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: his resume, it says dead beat dad under there, I mean,

637
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: the biggest crop of bull s I've ever heard. I'm

638
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 3: not cussing, but my blood pressure. I was like sitting

639
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 3: there watching him, like, are you freaking kidding me? Right now?

640
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 3: Like the book can pick up their feet, you know,

641
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 3: get on their feet again after a lot of bad

642
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 3: things and deadbeat dad is not something that's gonna stop

643
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: Slades ladies to get off writing, cretch his coattails, and

644
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 3: go get a job.

645
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 4: Period of dad relaxing hit him with the period.

646
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: What was well?

647
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: Interesting is uh with Katie.

648
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: Katie's professional alexis she said that slave's job is.

649
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: To be Gretchen's bitch. But Donald was like, Katie, you

650
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: ate that one like that?

651
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Speaker 3: Wait say that again? Wait wait wait I didn't fall

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Speaker 3: say that again.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Katie said to her confessionals that Slade's job

654
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Speaker 1: is to be Gretchen's bitch.

655
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Speaker 3: But that's why I said he needs to quit writing

656
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Speaker 3: her hotels and go get a job. Like I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think there was even one time in the seasons

658
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Speaker 3: I was filming with Gretchen that she called him her

659
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: slept schlepper, she slept stuff. I've never heard that word before,

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Speaker 3: That's why it rings a bell to me. But so

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Speaker 3: so stop she happin and start bartending. Okay, I mean

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Speaker 3: that's what we do, Carlos is we held we call

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Speaker 3: a spade a spade. Okay, well, I'm just saying we

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Speaker 3: called a slade a Slade, we called plate of Spade. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm pulling it out people. I just storted. Sometimes, Okay, Carlos,

666
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Speaker 3: how are we having too much fun at eight o'clock

667
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Speaker 3: in the morning. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Listen, listen, I'm so bad. Join you off them, happen

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Speaker 2: to your fight because I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love it, I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 1: So one thing I want to talk about to speaking

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Speaker 1: of Slade, his look, Vicky did say on a podcast

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Speaker 1: that when.

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Speaker 2: They were filming Awesome with Girls Trip, it was a

675
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Speaker 2: season that's not I don't think ever gonna air.

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Speaker 1: It's for the Brandy Glamville Turnline, Manto, Bicky, Gretchen, Alex McCord, and.

677
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Speaker 2: Camillo Grammar.

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Speaker 1: Bicky Godson said alexais that while they were filming it,

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Speaker 1: that's Lay would call Gretchen incessantly asking what she's wearing

680
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: and auto these things, and she's.

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Speaker 2: Like, that's just Slade, is how you know? Slay allegedly

682
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: told Mac that he started Housewives.

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Speaker 1: It was and you know, listen, I'm a human being

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Speaker 1: and in that moment, I was like, look, all of

685
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: these things people are saying are also provided by factual

686
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Speaker 1: stuff from the clip with Andy Cohen at the reunion

687
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Speaker 1: where Slade said I left the show and Andy's like, no,

688
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Speaker 1: Joe was no longer.

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Speaker 2: Here, which means we did not need you anymore. It

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Speaker 2: made me feel bad.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, dud you a bit feel bad for Gretchen,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, if all of this is true, i

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Speaker 1: just feel like, damn, Gretchen, if all of this is true,

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Speaker 1: it does feel like you are being led down the

695
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Speaker 1: wrong broke sister, and this isn't looking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's a little I mean, if it

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Speaker 3: is true, it's a little possessive, a little obsessive, you know,

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Speaker 3: a little obsession, a little possessive. But I do think

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Speaker 3: that if Slade went and did something on his own

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Speaker 3: and got a little piece of his own identity and

701
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: life at least, we have so much going on in

702
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 3: a day that it's like he's doing his own thing.

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00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: I'm doing my own thing. I mean, yeah, we do

704
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 3: travel a lot together when we have things, you know,

705
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 3: things we have to do for work and s touch.

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Speaker 3: But I just think I think he probably would really

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Speaker 3: benefit if he just got something of his own.

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Speaker 1: I Listen could not agree more with that. Okay, alexis

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Speaker 1: last question for you. I know you got a run,

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Speaker 1: but I need to ask you this. I definitely thought

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Speaker 1: the girls coming together at the end was fun. They're

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00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: on the beach, they're having fun. One of the topics

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Speaker 1: is this, And I'm like, I can't wait to ask

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Speaker 1: Alexis this question. So the girls are talking about their

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Speaker 1: worst breakup stories, Alexis Beleno, what is your worst breakup story?

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, Well, the first thing that comes in mind

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00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 3: that I just can't stop laughing about is here we're

718
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: going and her boy raises the garage door. She's got

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Speaker 3: the knife there.

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Speaker 2: Loved it. I loved it. I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 3: I can't think okay, so I can't think of Oh, oh,

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Speaker 3: I know, okay. I was dating the point guard on

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Speaker 3: the Missoo basketball team. Okay, we were kind of boyfriend

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Speaker 3: and girlfriend. We just hadn't said it. I go to

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Speaker 3: his house one night after I got done bartending at

726
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Speaker 3: back Steakhouse. Okay, I'm so glad I thought of this story.

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Speaker 3: So and I'd heard he was a player, Okay, i'd heard,

728
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Speaker 3: you know, and he's like, he's the fricket. I dated

729
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Speaker 3: the quarterback on at Miszoo football and I dated the

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Speaker 3: point guard on the basketball team. So yeah, I don't

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Speaker 3: know why I like to date the guys that seemed

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Speaker 3: to play the girls. But anyway, so I decide I'm

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Speaker 3: going to go buy his house because it's like ten

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Speaker 3: o'clock at night and he am not reaching him. This

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Speaker 3: is that. I get in in the driveway and he's

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Speaker 3: got all the sexy lights on, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: like the the globe, all the sexy lights, and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: that's weird because he's supposed to be here alone or

739
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: with somebody's it's weird. I walk in and he's making

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Speaker 3: out standing up making out with a girl under the

741
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Speaker 3: little globe thing because he had, you know, his house

742
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Speaker 3: had all the good lights and everything.

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Speaker 1: And I.

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Speaker 3: Peeled out of that driveway. I'm talking, I just went.

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Speaker 3: I just just got the heck out of there.

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Speaker 2: Was so disgusted, and you know.

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Speaker 3: He tried to mend the fence a little and it

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Speaker 3: just never worked. After that, I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: all I need. No, that was I left the skid

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Speaker 3: mark in his gravel because we're in Missouri I'm talking about,

751
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Speaker 3: So he had some gravel in the driveway. I left

752
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Speaker 3: some skid marks in there because I was that mad.

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Speaker 2: And guess what, you left your mark? You literally left

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Speaker 2: your mark.

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Speaker 3: Okay. I had a knife that I could have walked

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Speaker 3: in there with like camera. Dude, I didn't have a nice.

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Speaker 2: Girl, Okay, So mine is completely different. My Carlos King's

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Speaker 2: worst breakup story.

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Speaker 1: I was in college. It's my first boyfriend. I'm like

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Speaker 1: nineteen years old, and we were dating like two miles

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Speaker 1: and you know, I'm like coming off the closet. He

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Speaker 1: wanted us to have a public relationship. I'm still staying

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Speaker 1: out home with my parents and I'm like, I'm not

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Speaker 1: coming out the closet. I mean, Detroit, Michigan is too

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Speaker 1: I can't do it. My father would like kill me.

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Speaker 1: So for two months we had like a secret relationship

767
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Speaker 1: and he did not like it.

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Speaker 2: He didn't liked it one bid. He would complain about

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Speaker 2: it whatever.

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Speaker 3: So he wanted you to be bold, I'm asking. He

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Speaker 3: wanted you to be bold and like step out with

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Speaker 3: him and come out with yes. And you were quiet

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00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 3: about it because you weren't quite ready there and your journey,

774
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 3: you weren't there yet exactly. Okay, so keep.

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Speaker 1: Going exactly two days before Valentine's Day, I get an email.

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Speaker 1: The motherfucker broke up with me via email two days

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Speaker 1: before Valentine's Day. I'm your cheap asshole, like you had

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Speaker 1: to do it before, or.

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Speaker 3: Well sometimes days, but it's like three years for you.

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00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: Then it's like you got to you got to grow

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00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 3: up fully to get over that one. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: I know I'm like.

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Speaker 2: Your self, a like you're suspening cloud. You couldn't call

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Speaker 2: me and break up with me. You couldn't. He should

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Speaker 2: meet email, Alexis.

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Speaker 4: You know what?

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Speaker 3: Ryan Seacrest is my the pluthora of knowledge. Every morning

788
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Speaker 3: I listened to him when I'm getting ready, and so

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Speaker 3: Ryan Seacrest, I believe had says this at some point

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00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 3: he said, because you know, he always gives the facts.

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00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 3: He's very factual, this guy. Anyway, he had done some

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Speaker 3: One of his topics were the best times of the

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Speaker 3: largest times of breakups are before Christmas and before Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 3: You know why, because people don't want to spend the

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Speaker 3: money on each other if they're gonna they're feeling not

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00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 3: a certain way, and they don't want to spend that

797
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: holiday with them. If they're feeling not a certain way.

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Speaker 3: So you just made the statistics. Carlos. It's one of

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Speaker 3: the best holidays to be broken up right before, and

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Speaker 3: you made the stats. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So just like they said us weekly rain Dry, I'm

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00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: just like us. So Alexis, thank you so much. This

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Speaker 1: has been a fun episode. I so look forward to

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Speaker 1: air Bride and me capping this with you.

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Speaker 2: You have fun this weekend. I wish I could celebrate

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00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: with you. But have fun day. Tell Johnna say hi

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00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: and I love you and I'll see you next week.

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00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: I'm headed into Gleam. Now you won't see me like

809
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 3: this often. Okay, they got no they got no powder,

810
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 3: just a little lip gloss and some mascara. So this

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Speaker 3: is the Raindrope's got the real deal this time.

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Speaker 2: You still look good though, baby, know that?

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00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 3: Yeah? All right, see you next week.

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

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Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with the Lack

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Speaker 1: Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube

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