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Speaker 1: Now it's time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue,

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Speaker 1: Joe Grande, and Mark and Craig Wasserman, the Pop brothers

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Speaker 1: in law, with special guests Sonny and Gil, two rival

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Speaker 1: the American Joelo. Hello, and welcome to Cannabis Talk one

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Speaker 1: on one. My name is Blue. Alongside him is the

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Speaker 1: world famous Joe Grande, and normally it's Marking Craig Washerman,

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Speaker 1: the Pop Brothers out law, but today joining us is

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Speaker 1: the pop brother Craig Washerman. How you doing, buddy. It's

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Speaker 1: awesome guys, glad to be here. So tell us what

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Speaker 1: you got in the cannabis world. Joe first, well, thank

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Speaker 1: you guys all for listening to our podcast, Cannabis Talk

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Speaker 1: one oh one, all around the world, eighty six different

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Speaker 1: Thank you. If you ever want to call the show,

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Speaker 1: it's eight hundred nineteen eight Blue, What is it again?

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Speaker 1: One nineteen eighty Greig in Espanol otro zeto zeto quatro

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Speaker 1: Marks at Lost Law, and at court right now, so

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Speaker 1: I am at Joe grand A fifty two. And before

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Speaker 1: we get to our guest, Sonny and Gil from American

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Speaker 1: first of all, welcome Sonny and Gil. Thank you guys

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Speaker 1: for joining, guys having and give me a favor. Um, Gil,

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Speaker 1: please don't eat them. That's sunny, Sonny. I'm already attacking

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Speaker 1: you on look. I like already got him earlier. Craig, Craig,

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Speaker 1: you have some new for us. First, before we here again,

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Speaker 1: I found this time. Actually this is awesome. Missouri Republican

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Speaker 1: congressional candidate Ryan Dirk's posted on Facebook quote, I don't

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Speaker 1: MISSOI not only that they're cracking out there. You know,

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Speaker 1: my wife from Kansas, and a lot of people in

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Speaker 1: But there's no place like home. There's no place like him.

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Speaker 1: So we have another one. Rhode Island Democratic can Get

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Speaker 1: candidate Dylan Connolly tweeted as your congressman will fight to

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Speaker 1: write the ship of the cannabis industry as more and

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Speaker 1: more states legalize it. Roughly forty thousand, forty thousand Americans

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Speaker 1: that every single time, Craig, when all these people want

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Speaker 1: I gotta ask you, guys, Blue, you ran across and

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Speaker 1: which is just American troller, right, American trollo, and that

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Speaker 1: any I try to I do it it acting my homies,

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Speaker 1: with the real American Torolo. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk

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Speaker 1: one on one. We are here with Sonny and Gil

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Speaker 1: before we went to break, I wanted to hear your story,

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Speaker 1: like Gil broke down his at what age did you

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Speaker 1: jump in and and the bean Pat? How did that

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Speaker 1: just real quick, it wasn't that cool. I don't make

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Speaker 1: if I can say ay, but yeah, you're good. He

424
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: she had a nice asshole. Um me being a hot head,

425
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: hothead I am. I went in um back count of

426
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 1: him like a girl, and he had a few homies

427
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 1: with them. So they came back and put the shot

428
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: you business. Yeah, they shot me when we got busy first,

429
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:07,199
Speaker 1: but they land him shooting me and then UM shotow

430
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 1: my arm. Then Um, I got a I was in

431
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: a hospital like a year for that. Wow. So when

432
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: I came out of the hospital. Um I went right

433
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 1: back to doing my thing out there, hand on the business,

434
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 1: messing around. Um I got shot again in the back

435
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 1: with a shotgun on the corner out Burbank. Burbank. He's

436
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: a big target the first time Bank. I didn't know Burbank.

437
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: God damn like that. I got that just Armos. Oh.

438
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 1: He told me something one day. He said it was

439
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: four hundred sixties some shootings in one year. And maybe

440
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: I used to think the same thing. I just think

441
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: that's the white boys city, right were white boy next door?

442
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: Glendale's his neighborhood. Actually you go there, Yeah, it was.

443
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 1: It was like going to Coma or something. It was, well,

444
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 1: that's that's I say, Like, no one really knows. I

445
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: grew up in and down and everybody's like, oh down.

446
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: He's like the the you know East, I mean the

447
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: uh the Beverly Hills for the Mexicans, you know. And

448
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, until you're stuck on Imperial Highway, you know,

449
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: and and you know, and you're on the border of

450
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: Firestone over there and Pico or you're in Lynnwood and

451
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 1: you're on the board you know, like if you if

452
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 1: you live in the nice area, Yeah, there's a beautiful

453
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: place in town. But there's also a shipball spot right

454
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: down the street that I'll get you like that year.

455
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: So then what happens. I gen't shot in the back,

456
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: it's bird shot. I go to my homeboys sister, my

457
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: homeboys mom, and she gets an exactly knife and she's

458
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: cutting out, cutting out the palace. You know, I wasn't

459
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: nothing serious, but you know it got me glad you

460
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: look at it that way. So I had been and

461
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be going back to the neywhere aren't

462
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: kicking it on the corner of where I'm done? Dude,

463
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that no more. I'm started getting shot.

464
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 1: But by then hours already start picking up a gun.

465
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm done, I'm picking up a gun

466
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: and come at me. And I got him. Um he

467
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: went around for a couple of years. Everything was cool

468
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: where where. Yeah, we're handling business, but nothing too serious.

469
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: Nobody was. Guy didn't get shot no more. So I

470
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: was cool. That's a good thing. Then I got hitting

471
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: the foot with an axe and guy are trying to

472
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: hit me with an axe, dropped off half my foot. Um,

473
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 1: you lost half your foot replacement My foot just basically anyways, Um,

474
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: I got stabbed twice in the lungs at my house

475
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: and I was with my my kid's mother, and that's

476
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 1: where things started to change. I was like, man, I'm tired.

477
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm tired doing this. And then right after that, I

478
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: think that's the night she told me she was pregnant.

479
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: She was I'm pregnant. That's so I was like, all right,

480
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: I'm cool. I gotta stop this. And I was all

481
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: right until I never went in. At this point, you've

482
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 1: never been in. I had been in the county for

483
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 1: for a couple of days. Not too big. There's alla

484
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: d a rejects. It's like because back then those days

485
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: where least with my homeboys, we were all solid. Nobody

486
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: was telling nobody, so we were getting away with everything.

487
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: We're literally getting away with everything. And what was I telling?

488
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: What part? You just got? Your just my wife. I

489
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: decided to get a job and do everything right. And

490
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: then I started in those calls, Hey food, we're gonna

491
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: have a party once you come down, right, Hey fo,

492
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a party and come down. And I

493
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: decided to go to New Year's party, and they lit

494
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: my homeboys up like bad and one of my my

495
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: close friends, UM let him getting paralyzed over it, and

496
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I'm going out. So I started

497
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 1: going out little by little, and I was calling out

498
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: of work doing the stuff so I can go look

499
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: for these guys. And then I ended up going back.

500
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: UM going to start going back to the neighbor because

501
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: I lost a job. So I started going back to

502
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: neighborhood every night, partying and just started leaving until I

503
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: got a last term. Um. I picked up a life

504
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: turning in February of two so um, I went to

505
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: prison and uh ninety two. No, I went in prison

506
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: ninety three, almost ninety almost ninety four, and I got

507
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: out in two thousand. I overturned to the case. So

508
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: I got out. How are you able to do that? Nice? Yeah? What? What?

509
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: What was the graph? Good? That's a good one. You

510
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: got life and you're able to get out? WHOA what

511
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: it was? Hes T that's always the biggest blessing, Like,

512
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I got life and I'm out. Well,

513
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: there was multiple shootings tonight I got busted. There was

514
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: I think it was three shootings, separate shootings, one in Burbank,

515
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: one in Glendale, one in Burbank. They pinned me for

516
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: three shootings were both shootings in Burbank at one time,

517
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: and they weren't. I can't be at two places at

518
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: one time, so they were trying to get me from

519
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: Glendale to They put those two those two shootings together.

520
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: But when they put the two shootings together, they said that, Um,

521
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: I was in Glendo at the time. I had like

522
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: something like four five minutes to be into that spot

523
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: to do that shooting and me get back, and it

524
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: was impossible. So they were actually going like Ama free ways.

525
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: Even if Brand Boulevard had all the green lights, there

526
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: was no way of doing it because it was deeper

527
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: into It was deeper in the Grandale more towards me

528
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: northeast l A. So um, they I got dropped. They

529
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: had insus fishing evidence on certain things. They had hit

530
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: uh information that they had that with your dad, I

531
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: was because exculpatory evidence that prosecution is supposed to by

532
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: law and anything over that's in the favor of the defendant.

533
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: Because they had a bullet a bullet hole diameter was

534
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: suppolled what I had supposed it with the twenty two rifle,

535
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: and they had a quarter in hole in a window

536
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: and that would have been a caliber. So they didn't

537
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: use They didn't have the right caliber if it was

538
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: supposed to be something like three eighths of a nance

539
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 1: or something, but in a quarter of an inch they couldn't.

540
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: They tried to throw all the shootings on me and

541
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: they couldn't. It was multiple shootings. But the guy that

542
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: actually did it was the one that told on me.

543
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: So I was like, wow, easy to the homie or

544
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: he was a homi. The first one I've ever told

545
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: on anybody really right in the neighborhood. They have them sometimes,

546
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: I mean. And then it took me almost about five years.

547
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: Is overturned after two years in that county. Almost two

548
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: years in the county, So it took seven years. And

549
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: so now that you're in East l A and you

550
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: know you're part of the whole burbank um Elmwood Street, guys,

551
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: how does it East l A take you in? Because

552
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: you're o g there's no doubt looking at you. You see,

553
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: you know how you could just see it in that stereotyping. Well, right,

554
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: I am dice. You call a spade and spade and

555
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: a suck a thug, you know, do it again? I

556
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: moved in with my kid's mother. But originally I grew

557
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: up in East Los Angeles. Um from East Angels went

558
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: to montan and so I grew up in those areas

559
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: and to me, those are like home. I know, I

560
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: still still have friends in the neighborhoods. So when I

561
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: moved in, and when I moved into this one of

562
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: little neighborhood called Little Weast Side, and these guys are

563
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: snappers and um, as soon as I world up in

564
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: the neighborhood, it was just like all bad with them.

565
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: But that's one thing about East Los Angeles is you

566
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: can't just move in from a different neighborhood and think

567
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: you're cool. They're gonna test you, they're gonna mess with you.

568
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: And those guys from Little Weast Side I earned their

569
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: respect because that was about let's do it right, Yeah,

570
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: let's do it. I'm not going to where this is home. Yeah.

571
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: And then um, I moved from one party fell to another,

572
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: and Little East Side actually came by and told that

573
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: other gang, hey, leave him alone, don't mess up to me. Cool. Yeah,

574
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: So I got a lot of respect as far as uh,

575
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: A lot of homies in Los Angeles that I've known

576
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: and they've known me from when I was a kid.

577
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, how are you now? Um? You know, it's

578
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: funny because he's growing up, you know, and and and

579
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: and you you start to bounce around and you see

580
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: all the different hoods and stuff like that, and you

581
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: realize that, like as you start to get older and

582
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: you realize that, you know, there's no difference between what's

583
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: going on. I mean, we're just we we I feel

584
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: like we're also the dream. You know. When we were young,

585
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, there was this dream in this vision and

586
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: it was very powerful back then, where it's not as

587
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: powerful as it is anymore. And I don't know why,

588
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I just think it's like, well,

589
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: I know why the cops got very very strict and

590
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: and and you know, it's funny because I see what's

591
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: happening now in today's day, and I go, gosh, you know,

592
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 1: when we were young, cops were way more brutal than

593
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: they are now. People are like, well, their princess is

594
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: now just as brutal now. They just we just have

595
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: video now, dude, Listen, Craig, I can tell you this.

596
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: You know, there was there was night got pulled over

597
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: when I was sixteen come on. Yeah, And there was

598
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: there was nights where they would they would they would

599
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: come in with you know, I would say twelve or

600
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: fourteen you know cops and maybe six cars, you know,

601
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's eight cars, and they trap us in

602
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: this little area. They'd handcuff everybody. They'd spray everybody with

603
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: mace and tell him whose neighborhood is this homeboy? And

604
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: if you didn't answer, you were gonna get cracked with

605
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: the billy club and then you hit the floor like

606
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: it was that bad where I was at, you know,

607
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: And it was because they wanted to create fear. You know,

608
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: they were creating fear in in in the cities in

609
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: Norwalk Downy Paramount, the minorities, the Blacks and Mexicans period.

610
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: Like I literally get pulled out of a car and

611
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: and and they weren't tripping on on weed, dude, like

612
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: everybody's like, I'm worried about we Like they pulled me

613
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: over the Yeah, they would come over with uh, you know,

614
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: let let me ask you guys this in light of

615
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: what's going on today. While maybe how you were dealt with,

616
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: probably half those times they didn't arrest you. They just

617
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: sucked with you really fucking hard. It's my guests warnings

618
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: whatever back then. If I'm wrong, tell me. But people

619
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: were people getting as shot and killed as they are today,

620
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: rather than working up trying to worse worse. When you're

621
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: in that life, you back at least back in my day,

622
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: we knew where we had coming. If you run from

623
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: the cops, you were catching the beat down. If they

624
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: got a hold of you, caught you with the strap,

625
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: you're getting lit up. Yeah there, you knew what you

626
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: were getting into the game. That's just every every day

627
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: things like these youngsters will act like they don't understand

628
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: the rules, they don't rule, they don't what it is.

629
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: It's I think it's the narrative is they can get

630
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: away with it. It's it's sad because right now a

631
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: lot of these guys, yeah they shouldn't be getting killed.

632
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: But like myself, I got called a gun three different times,

633
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: but every single time they come in with a gun,

634
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: Becauess what I did. I froze man, because I knew

635
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: that you shut the funk up. Yeah, And the problem

636
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: is right now people don't want to shut up. They

637
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: want to argue, no, you are you? After you get

638
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: arrested you get a lawyer, you do it the right way.

639
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: But if you got to watch that's exactly. Yeah. Yeah,

640
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: if you if you're gonna argue, you got a gun, homie,

641
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: you know what you got coming, don't I'm sorry, don't

642
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: cry about after. Yeah. And you and I think that

643
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: even if you don't, even if you don't have a gun. Yeah,

644
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: if you don't have a gun, the minute you start arguing,

645
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: we tell people, the minute you start arguing, that gives

646
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: the cop that out that they currently have on qualified immunity. Hey,

647
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: I was afraid for my life. That's it. You how

648
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: easy of a threshold it is for them. So when

649
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: when you know, when people engage in the script that

650
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: we teach people, it's calm, polite, and that's it. I

651
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: know my rights. I'm shutting the funk up. Comply, complain later,

652
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: don't argue with the cop. You're not gonna win the

653
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: conversation no matter what. All it does is agitate them,

654
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: and right or wrong, whether they should have you out

655
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: of the car, whether they're problem that some people duck

656
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: and duck and you know well they are now as

657
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: we're as we're sitting here with Sonny and Gil from

658
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Speaker 1: American clo on I g the American clo you know,

659
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: I'll tell you Greig to answer what you're what you're

660
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 1: talking about is that everybody is is exploiting some bullshit

661
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: right now in my in from the streets. You know,

662
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: like as a as a kid that grew up, you know,

663
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: like I, I was able to change about I tell

664
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: everybody I game bang didn't tell I was about, you know,

665
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: to thirty two years old, you know, And as I

666
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: started to get to that, I started trying to change

667
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: my clothes and where my and talk differently and try

668
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 1: to disguise myself to not be so um you're wearing

669
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: white pants. Yeah, yeah, just not not to be not

670
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: to be so relevant. But I also tell people all

671
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: the time, Joe, I'm my I'm three inches from having

672
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: my head shavedn two inches from having a gun in

673
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: your face. Not a lot of people understand that, you know.

674
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: You know, we've had this exact discussion on our podcast, well,

675
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: especially about the systemic racism. You know, when I decided

676
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 1: I was gonna stay out of trouble, and I changed

677
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: the way addressed the way I acted. I guess just

678
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: my demeanor. Something in me changed. I haven't been stopped

679
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: in years. And if I do get stopped, there's something

680
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: like you know, they don't ask me. Weren't from nothing?

681
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 1: No more, they don't bust because you communication level everything

682
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: you everything's changed. Yeah, but if you're gonna go on,

683
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: you're up to something and you're looking over your shoulder,

684
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: of course the cons notice because that's what they're trained

685
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: to do. Well, it's then, and sometimes they're right, it's

686
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: it's the rules of engagement. And no, they haven't changed

687
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: the rules of engagement. Like Eve was speaking, as soon

688
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: as the officer feels threatened, he's got the right to

689
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: shoot you. And until that changes, you better comply with

690
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: what they're saying. Yeah, and and and and any politician

691
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: that's saying this and that, they don't change it, whether

692
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: it's a Republican or Democrat. They haven't changed the rules

693
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 1: of engagement. They need to change the rules of engagement.

694
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: If not, young people are going to continue, even older

695
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: people to get shot. Is that what you talk about

696
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: on Americ Control of the podcast that we talk about

697
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: anything from politics to but to I mean artists. Yeah,

698
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: we talked, we talked serious stuff. We we try to

699
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: bring we try to bring ourselves. Really put a Latino

700
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: thing into it, because I feel that we as Latino Rossa,

701
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: we don't have a choice. We don't have really had

702
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: stay everybody. Yeah, they should check your prostate if you're

703
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: over forty guys, you know, I mean if it's fit

704
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: for you know. We we really, we really did. He

705
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: tried to get me because I was older, trying to

706
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: clown me about getting my prostate checked. And now every day.

707
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: Oh no, it turns out he's had more than I have.

708
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: No way, I'm older, he's nervous. And then I told him,

709
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: I told him, dude, they got me once. But then

710
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: I found out that they can do a blood test,

711
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: and he goes, no, that's not true. To refuse the

712
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: blood test. Yeah, that's why they call him double knuckle

713
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: gill in the boo boo. The other one gets stuck

714
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: in the storm. Dude. Really, they didn't do all that

715
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: to me. They didn't bend over and you know what,

716
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: you know, cute bend over. OK. I'm done, thank you

717
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: very much. I'm finished with you. I went home and

718
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: slept for about four hours, left my clothes on. I

719
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: swear to god, did you kiss my neck at least first?

720
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: It's like something. You know, I'll tell you one of

721
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: the things that that I admire, you know, is that

722
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: you know, there there's there's a lot of positivity and

723
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: what you guys are doing right now man, and and

724
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: being a part of the American Troller, even the concept

725
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: the name what you guys through out there. And again

726
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: when I when I was there at the the the

727
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: park and here and Stanton, I was, I was there

728
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, this reminds me of so

729
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: much of just being young, you know, and enjoying it.

730
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: But yet there was and I haven't seen you know,

731
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: the movements of ship going on, you know what I mean.

732
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: And I and I know that this whole, this whole environment,

733
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: and so I'm you know, I'm printing around and I

734
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: was literally probably you know, where's Waldo in the whole

735
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: building because I had a I had a little you know,

736
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: you know, pretty boy shirt on and ship and I'm like, oh,

737
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: this guy's wearing some tight clothes and ship bounce around.

738
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: But feeling and my friend, well they said that guy

739
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: comes up to me and he goes, hey, bro, He's like,

740
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you look so you feel you

741
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: just look so comfortable here, like I you know what

742
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 1: I mean, like you know, what's what's what do your dog?

743
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm very comfortable here, you know,

744
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: and shouldn't And it's well because it's probably the way

745
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: I've dressed, you know. But it was like, you just

746
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: here like that? And he was like no, and I go,

747
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: what do you mean? And he go, do you see

748
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: that guy over there? You know, it's like this youngster dude,

749
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: you know. And he was like, he looks like he

750
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: was pushed to be here, you know. He was like,

751
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: you look like you're very comfortable here. I was like,

752
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: but he's like, but you don't look like you fit

753
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: in and I'm laughing. I'm just like, you know what

754
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: I dude? Like. For for me again, it's it's not

755
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: something that I'm ashamed of or something that I'll ever

756
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: forget or you know, my my culture of who I

757
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: who I was, or who I walked with. In fact,

758
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: it made me a better, stronger person. I think that

759
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 1: that it's it's it's good to help others out there

760
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: to understand where they're at in their lives though, and

761
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: for people to see that this is what the cultural is.

762
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: Because when you he left there. He called me and

763
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: he sent me videos going, Joe, look at this community,

764
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: look at the rosy, and it's like, it's like any community.

765
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're Jewish, black, White, Asian, Philip,

766
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: whatever you are you I mean, but to see the

767
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: Latin roots get together like that, it's just great and

768
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: dope because there's so much hypocrisy out there saying when

769
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: you get a bunch of Mexicans together, there's gonna be

770
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: a fight, and maybe it happens. Are a bunchet of

771
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: blacks together, they're gonna be a fight it maybe it happens.

772
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: But my point is Blue was like, dude, Joe, this

773
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: was such a great event, and so what you guys

774
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: are doing, we just commend you because, like Blue brought

775
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: it to my attention, we were online looking at videos

776
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: and watching and I swear to you, we were like

777
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: borderline sitting there like crying, like, man, we gotta be

778
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: at events like this, you know, and if you miss

779
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: being part of that culture, like you up because I

780
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: grew up that way at too. I grew up in

781
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: East Side Saint Jose and it's very very like that

782
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: funny you're thinking. I used to say that growing up,

783
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: but not at the North anu Way, just like that's

784
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: my zip code. It's funny we've been getting that lets

785
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: into our show. And there was one we were doing

786
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: a have About tournament Americ control of the first annual

787
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: hand About tournament, but the second one got to put

788
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: it off because of COVID. But when Arthorn you had

789
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: asked me in a comment section, Hey, what do I

790
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: expect if we go down there? I go play the

791
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: food and get tired from Brandon the handball. But yeah,

792
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: it was like really, really, we're not tripping on you. Yeah,

793
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: and even the other homies, Yeah, we would have you

794
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: never you know how that means the homies now when

795
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: we throw any events we got any place, we make

796
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: sure people this is what it is. But we're not

797
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: here to be fine. If you want to go go bang,

798
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: go to get a gun, go to the streets, senior neighborhood,

799
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: don't come to this hood right here. So basically there's

800
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: a there's a there's a truce or some kind of

801
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: Wherever you're going, they know you're coming an adult understanding. Yeah. Yeah,

802
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: my homeboys, the youngsters that came a couple of my

803
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: come juncter homeboys that came. I had to tell him,

804
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: A homie makes me right, quight, I got you. Yeah,

805
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: And there are some youngsters there that you could see,

806
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: that could easily that could easily lose their ship. Yeah,

807
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: the three seconds from more surprise, how many actual youngsters

808
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: are there? There was so it's it's a lot of people.

809
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: I was tripped out because truthfully, I didn't even I

810
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: don't even see them on the streets anymore. My wife

811
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: tells me to My wife tells me, is there really?

812
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: We live in the hood, right and I've see my homies.

813
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 1: She doesn't really. Is there really gangs out there? I said, sweetie,

814
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 1: only because we walked away from that life. Those guys

815
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: haven't stopped that. So a lot of people just think that, yeah,

816
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: that the gang stuff hasn't stopped. Asked him, homicide detective,

817
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: it stopped. He's gonna tell you straight up, he's gonna

818
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: tang again. It hasn't stopped. The only thing is that

819
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: when we grow up out of it, a lot of

820
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: us are not there. We're not there. We don't see

821
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: it anymore. Me. I live in my neighborhood. I live

822
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: in the hood, so I see it. But I've seen

823
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: it from this age for this age, and guess what

824
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: the outcome, the the glory that we when we were young,

825
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: we thought, so, we're gonna join a gang bill sales,

826
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: We're gonna join a gang with respect this, we'll go

827
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 1: to prison, We're gonna make money. And then what happens

828
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: is when you win the prize and what the prize is.

829
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: The prize that eight by twelve. So for the rest

830
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: of your life, man, you have to get along with

831
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: your enemies in prisons. You have to. You ain't got

832
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: no choice. You know this guy, it would have been

833
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,959
Speaker 1: one of my homies in joint. That's what's crazy about

834
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: that to think, especially when you grow up in Los

835
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: Angeles and like the rival gang. But then we get

836
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: locked up because in jail it's not just because we're brothers.

837
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: It's real racial on prison, at least in California. So

838
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: you actually have to have somebody watching your back. If

839
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: you ain't got nobody watching your back, trudging, somebody's coming

840
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: for you, someone on your back, somebody's coming for your

841
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Speaker 1: Tenni shoes. Yeah, we're trying to do this too, because

842
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: about ten years ago, fifteen years ago, I wouldn't be

843
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: able to do it. I get killed straight up. Times

844
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: have kind of changed. I think even us, as essays Mexicans,

845
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: we're evolving. We're now finally seeing Wait a minute, When

846
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 1: I was young, there was no homie like us saying

847
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: hey homie, don't do that. There was home. That's why,

848
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: I mean, how does anybody look at you guys sideways

849
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: on it? Are you guys are just so g get

850
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: the pass where it's like, hey man, why are you

851
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: guys out there talking like this? And even though your

852
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: ex bangers, and I think what it is, First of all,

853
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: you had to be you had to been a banger

854
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: to us. We're like generals. Were generals in the hood

855
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: at one point or another, and we got that respect.

856
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: So when somebody's got that respect is out there doing that.

857
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 1: The older guys already know that this fools got balls,

858
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: and a lot of times people like them do. I

859
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: never know, I never know anybody was gonna do this.

860
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: So we're like the first actual gang members that are

861
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: from southern California doing something like this. And no, we're

862
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: getting more and more help. Man, were like the Orange Country.

863
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: We got invited. So we get invite to these things

864
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: and we go because we're hopefully trying to make it.

865
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: Eventually we have a big, huge thing where a lot

866
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: of us get there. But my thing is I'm trying

867
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: to get Rossa to get politically woke, to start voting,

868
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 1: to start getting into because people say no, voting doesn't

869
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: do anything. Listen, brother, Voting tells you how much the

870
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: lights caused. Voting tells you how many red lights there is.

871
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: Voting tells you how many stop sensors. Voting tells you

872
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: how much gas is. Voting tells you everything. But Rassa

873
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: don't vote. They just no, it's not for me. It

874
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: dictates every part of your life. And I'm trying to

875
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: get Roster to get walk and to start voting. I

876
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: love that you're doing that. What about doing things and

877
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: bulldog terror to Tory up North? Is it something that

878
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: American troller can expand it? Because I personally can. I

879
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: can see you guys going global with this because what

880
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: do you do? Like it's just beyond my I get

881
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: chills dog literally think about it because like growing up

882
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: where I grew up, you guys look like my cousins

883
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: forgot's sex. First off, you know what I mean? And

884
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: then it's like I know people like that. So if

885
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Sunday, I'm looking at you like dog.

886
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: You guys can relate to every type of neighborhood. The

887
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: only difference is the ones up north. The Bulldoggers are

888
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: the North. Aier's gonna be like, oh but wait a minute, No,

889
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: it's you know what. We we deal with them the

890
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: bulldogs too on the comment section. So we have a

891
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: lot of faithful UM subscribers from from Fresno, from the bulldogs.

892
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 1: By the way, those are bulldogs from the Central Valley.

893
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: If you didn't know that we have. We have a

894
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 1: lot of from all over the place, from different different states,

895
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: different sure animals, Latin kings. We have a lot of

896
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: par from different people. If you if you my thing too.

897
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: I killed trolls a lot of a lot of channels.

898
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: They leave the trolls in there because they need to. No,

899
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to have that conversation. If you've got

900
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: nothing to bring to the conversation, I don't want you

901
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: in my form. So to me, I don't care who

902
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: you are up north, down South. I actually did an

903
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: interview with the North Daniel. He's actually a right wing

904
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: Republican guy, all tatted down, but he's he's a Northerner.

905
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: So I'm reaching out to everybody and anybody. But because

906
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: if if I'm talking about making peace and making unity

907
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: in southern California, that can make peace in northern California,

908
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: that's hypocrisy. Had it's worse with her so to me, No,

909
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: to me, it's bringing unity to all the roster, regardless

910
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: of from the youth think that could happen, though I've

911
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: been with I grew up thinking I would love for

912
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: that to happen because we talked to yeh and Blue

913
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: was like and we're all saying, we didn't realize that

914
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: hatred and and to go gets what you're saying today.

915
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: You were saying you thought the Northerners were growing up

916
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: to hate the southerns and North. But you guys are

917
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: all from the South, saying that I grew up in

918
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: the North. And guess what, I too did not know

919
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: that there was a hatred towards the South and toil.

920
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: I was the same age as you're saying in about

921
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: high school. When you get older that to be like,

922
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: wait a minute, So it's not like we were raised

923
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: that way. And you know, so I and my brother

924
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: was in prison when I was six. My this is

925
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: my impression is there is no Northeniels down here and

926
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 1: down south. Once you can come down here, we don't

927
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: hear it. We don't hear that up there, there is

928
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: so there they were, right, and you knew that at

929
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: a young age and need not to go over there, right,

930
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: What I'm saying that, well, I wouldn't go there. It

931
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 1: was by a park dog. Well because the North Aniels

932
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: don't represent on her out there they would represent and

933
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: we'd be like, Okay, we aren't going to that neighbor.

934
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: We ain't gonna even play. And then we'd have baseball games.

935
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 1: I remember playing at pal little league and we knew

936
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: some of the families that come over there and they

937
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: were like, oh, those are those cats. And the crazy

938
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: part is, this is what that's so stupid. Is just

939
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: the same, just like all of us, the same little

940
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: put his socks on the same way. And it's like,

941
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: why do we act like that? And that's why I

942
00:47:55,239 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: say that up north there more bread raised to not like,

943
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: but it's not down here. We don't hear about them

944
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: until we're already starting to hit the system, starting to

945
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: get busted. That's where we hear about it because other

946
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: than that, maybe because they're down there, down maybe, But

947
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: what it is is they don't hate northing. They just

948
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: hate that gang. But that gang is called that gang

949
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: is called North. I hated his gang, his gangles called Elmwood.

950
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: It's just a face we put on them. So it's

951
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: not that he's so much hate. So they just hate

952
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: a certain gang. And when I talk to morth things,

953
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: they say, I'm cool with the with the Southern Hispanics downstyle,

954
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: but I don't like these guys to hear their prices.

955
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: Why because he's because he's an enemy. That's why you

956
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: say that. That's the only reason. And it's funny. That's

957
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: how I grew up listening to him, and that's what

958
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: they've been fair to think. And then to go back

959
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: to your your question about unity and all that, I

960
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: think that I think we can. I think there is

961
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: a route to get because we've all been at that

962
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: barbecue all drunk, maybe you twenty some years ago, and

963
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: we're all saying we need to get together, we need

964
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: to do something. We just yeah, we need we need

965
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 1: to do something. We need to do something for the Rassa,

966
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: and we're waking we're saying, no, we're gonna try it.

967
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna tend to actually unify this thing

968
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: and make it where there could be something like they have.

969
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: We don't have anything like that. And that's that's coming

970
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 1: on the program. That's coming on the show. It's actually

971
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: giving us acknowledgement that we're that we're we are spreading

972
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: the gospel. You know you guys are I said when

973
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: Blue said it to me, my eyes, we both re

974
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: borderline tried. Seriously, I'm not joking to you. We're both like, man,

975
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: we gotta do some stuff with these kids we're talking

976
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: to about the Northenniels. I'm gonna give it a little

977
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: touch him. I'm prisoning a little bit. When I got

978
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: into corkroom, I was done the level four. The first

979
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: thing I did is um, they asked me when you're

980
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: coming up to a podium, They asked you, who are you,

981
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: Sodennio Northenian. What are your fights h I was like, no,

982
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: none of that. Well, they just give me ten years

983
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: from being from mom one. So I'm not saying I'm

984
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: from anywhere, but nobody give me any any schooling to

985
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: know any better. Yeah, you're like, well I gotta claim something.

986
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm not claiming nothing. Give me ten and were years.

987
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: So they land up. They knew I was set, so

988
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: they put me or south sider. So they put me

989
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 1: in the south on the northern tier because I pissed

990
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: him off. He thought I was being a smartass. So

991
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: when I came out of the yard, we came out

992
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: to go to chow, I went up to the older homie.

993
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: Ain't got big ass brush everything. Think you know the homie. Hey,

994
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: they called me sending from Holmwood. He's like loss, I go, yeah,

995
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: he was. Your homeboards are back there. I was like,

996
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: whoa crap, that's North End. Yeah. I'm like like, oh

997
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: my god. So at the same facility, um, they have

998
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 1: four phones. They have two and two on each side. Um.

999
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: And a lot of times the CEOs don't want to

1000
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: racially segregate, so some you have to go to that

1001
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: site sometimes, but the sides are segregate. It is Whites

1002
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: and Mexicans and the blocks and others. So what happens is, UM,

1003
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: I got my phone call on another side. I want

1004
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: to go talk to my wife. I go there and

1005
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: UM I get on the phone and make my phone

1006
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 1: call and some black guy who walks up and says,

1007
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: phone check. Now you got the same time where you're

1008
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: on your phone, so there is no phone check. That's

1009
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: county stuff. But when he's telling me phone check, he's

1010
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: basically trying to punk me. So I'm on the phone

1011
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: and it was like, I was like, man, so I

1012
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: tell some white guy they called my homies and this

1013
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: was phone check, and I'm like, call my homies. So

1014
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: the guy walks away, but he don't walk away towards

1015
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: the homies. He goes the other way, and next you know,

1016
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm getting in there with the black dude and I'm

1017
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: getting cuffed and I'm getting cuffed. I noticed another hispanic

1018
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: next to me getting cuffed and he was in North Amil.

1019
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: There was on the phone next to me, so I'm

1020
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: thinking maybe he just got caught up. And he was like,

1021
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: you can tell he got into it too, and I

1022
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: was like what. He was, Hey, you're still roster to me,

1023
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, because I'm I'm from north but

1024
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: you're still roster them And a lot of people don't

1025
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: understand that when on the streets, when you when you're

1026
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: in there, your race comes first, and then your gang,

1027
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: so you know you can, you can actually you're not

1028
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: association with them. But something really jumps out really bad,

1029
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: the Northerners will run with the Southerners. In the Southerners

1030
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: world run with the northern if it really jumps, then

1031
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: jumps really really bad. And that guy did it. He

1032
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: jumped for me. Yeah, and I was shocked. I was like, what,

1033
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm new into the system, not an

1034
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: understanding nothing. It's just crazy to think that that system

1035
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: is so real. And it's like, you know, Craig walks

1036
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: the streets every single day out there representing for everyone Craig,

1037
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: and Craig goes out there with his washerman burritos as

1038
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: he hands out in the neighborhoods and Craig, we just

1039
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: want to commend you for everything that you do. But

1040
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: all kids aside, I do want to commend Mark and

1041
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: Craig Washerman because they do help out a lot of minorities,

1042
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 1: not only the Rockside, but Black Asian everyone, and they

1043
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 1: take a lot of pro bono cases. So as I'm

1044
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: being silly, and it's cats like this that help our

1045
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 1: communities out. So thank you Mark and Craig for overseeing

1046
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: what we do wrong and being white privilege. We need

1047
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: the token white boy, a couple of Jewish token trying

1048
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: to Yeah, do you guys know the script? You guys

1049
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: know the script? High five? No, No, that's the high

1050
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: five with the script with Mark and Craig Washington, the

1051
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: Pop Brothers, a lot of don't you guys follow that.

1052
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: I've seen the little brother the other one on the

1053
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 1: other one on some townhouse smoking a big guys blunt. Yeah, yeah,

1054
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: like damn, he's talking about the law. Don't do this,

1055
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: don't do that, you know, and then that's the script. Yeah.

1056
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: So these guys are very well known for the matter

1057
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: of facts. Can you teach him the script real quick

1058
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: so then they can go on their podcasts to share

1059
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: it with everybody. It's the last words you'll ever say

1060
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: to the police when they first come up on you.

1061
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: You first you the first thing you say to an

1062
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: officer is why did you pull me over? If they

1063
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: don't answer you, and they start asking you questions of

1064
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: any sort, what are you doing down this road? What

1065
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: are you doing over here? What are you doing over there?

1066
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: I'm not discussing my day. If they keep asking you questions,

1067
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: am I being detained? Am I free to go. If

1068
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: they say you're being detained, you invoked the fifth and

1069
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: then you shut the funk up. The more I mean,

1070
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: we try to explain it if you want. If you want,

1071
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: we can come on your podcast someday and explain it. All.

1072
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: All five lines of the script actually have meaning in

1073
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: the law. So if you stick to it and say

1074
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: nothing else, we're gonna have so much better of a

1075
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: time either suing them for illegal conduct for violence. If

1076
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: you stick to what we say, there's no way they're

1077
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: gonna be able to say I was afraid for my

1078
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: life and and like you were saying earlier, we gotta

1079
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: just time to are you you immic? That's why I thought,

1080
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: maybe you watch some of it, you you mimicked what

1081
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: we actually preaches. The it's not you're not gonna win

1082
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: the argument they give you a red light ticket, you're

1083
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: gonna argue that it wasn't read. You know, it's the

1084
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: same thing, And it's just you don't argue there. We're

1085
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: trying to keep people safe from getting fucking shot in

1086
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: the back and and ship like that, and it's just

1087
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: it's it's horrible, and it's horrible that people may have

1088
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: to to keep safe. They may have to go with

1089
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: what might be an illegal order if they hold if

1090
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: they're detaining you for more than like ten minutes, that

1091
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: haven't told you why they pulled you over, that could

1092
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: be an illegal detention, right, that's us to argue after

1093
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: they arrestue. That's the custom. So when you say why

1094
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: did you pull me over? It starts to have you

1095
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: know when they have to tell you or how long

1096
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: they're going to detain you before. That's when you say

1097
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, and then you never discussed your day. And

1098
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: if they get upset over you knowing you're right, you're

1099
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: gonna have a god dark good civil kids. Right, what

1100
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 1: I do when I get stopped or used to with

1101
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: all the mom would you start me for? That? Would

1102
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: tell me whatever? Start asking me questions right away, And

1103
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: I was like, are you detaining me? Yeah? I didn't

1104
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: ask you that. Are you detaining me? And then they

1105
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: say yes, no, or we're not. We're just talking to you.

1106
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 1: I got nothing to say. Call your sergeant, yeah, I

1107
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: won't talk to him. Yeah, yeah, I won't say a word.

1108
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: But I think we learned that in the streets. Well,

1109
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: when I was a kidding, my parents were teaching me that. Well.

1110
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: Number one was like, don't say nothing to nothing. And

1111
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny because I started training my kids

1112
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: at two prior to the to the proper law on

1113
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: the way they said, because I'd be like, don't say nothing,

1114
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 1: and I realized that my kids literally don't say nothing

1115
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: like they're like, comes like damn. My sons like, no,

1116
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: don't say nothing like that, So you gotta say something

1117
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: they don't. Yeah, And I like, I'd at least telling

1118
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: your name like they don't. They won't name by s

1119
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: game the fake name. The other day we just had

1120
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: my my son just just got this person called with

1121
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: her iPhone and they were calling her. Um, she wasn't

1122
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: us head in the pocket, but but teacher seen it,

1123
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 1: give me your iPhone. Oh. My dad's a nope, I'm

1124
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: not giving you method right, and my daughter is not

1125
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: the fact that disrespect for anything. But she's straight, No,

1126
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm not giving you another. My dad said, Nope, that's it.

1127
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: Girls called you dadue like she's good. Well, guys, it's

1128
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one on one. We'll be right back after

1129
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: this break. That's right. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one

1130
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: on one. We are live with Sunny and Gil from

1131
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: American Celo on Instagram, YouTube and all the other fun places.

1132
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: It's the real American clos guys. You know this is

1133
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: the favorite part of the show where we get into

1134
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: what we called the high five. Now check this out

1135
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: before we do, though, I just want to ask you guys.

1136
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: Do you guys currently smoke cannabis? I do not know.

1137
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: I do you do? But does do I have done CBD?

1138
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: I have smoked before, I have done CBD? I do

1139
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: U story? Can you please share that story? And how

1140
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: many days you were twisted? Okay, my son has a friend.

1141
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: He's like, he's like my second son. His name is

1142
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: Phelippe Philips. What's up? Philippa gets his job delivering marijuana. Okay,

1143
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: So I've been hearing about Brownie. I want to try

1144
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: a brownie. No, not you, yeah, Brownie. I go out

1145
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: back in the beat, all right. Usually if I smoke weed,

1146
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: I get really really paranoid, so I don't smoke it.

1147
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: But edible that was someone coming affects you different, so

1148
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try it. So he comes back, he

1149
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: gives me a brownie and I eat the stupid thing.

1150
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: He goes in the house he didn't tell you. Yeah,

1151
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: I hate the brownie. Next you know, I'm seeing three

1152
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: D on the TV. I'm seeing three D for three days.

1153
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: Oh no, I was loaded. Three days later, we went

1154
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: to Pond Springs to go to the casino. The whole

1155
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: way i'm driving there, I'm like, oh my god, I'm

1156
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: still loaded. I'm just like, those things are gonna fly

1157
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 1: at you when you can say, oh no. The only

1158
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: good the only good part about it was one of

1159
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: the movies I was watching on the first day was

1160
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: um uh, what's that? The Matrix from Friends, The Real

1161
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: Pretty blond One um And she had broke up with

1162
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: her old man, and there's a part where she takes

1163
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: off her talent show that she's sexy. So she's just

1164
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: your butts, just walking away. I'm seeing three D. So

1165
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, girl. But that's about the only good

1166
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: part about I was tripping. So after that, every once

1167
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: in a while, they know I love cookies. I eat

1168
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: all kinds of cookies. So they're coming put peanut butter

1169
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: in the cookie. I guess to hide the taste. I

1170
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: get some peanut butter cookies. You want them? Yeah, I'm

1171
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: on the couch. Oh my god. They're stupid kids like

1172
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: dad and laughing because like you start running the kits

1173
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: and looking to eat, they're having fun with you, like

1174
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: they're going for it. That's the funniest ship right there,

1175
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: to think, let's get dad and that's the big old man,

1176
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: like okay, I'll eat a cookie. Hell yeah, francalized rhino, right, yeah,

1177
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, they got me good. Oh that is great. Well,

1178
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: it's always good to hear stories as we have. Sunny

1179
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: and Gil from American Troller. You can find them on

1180
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: Instagram at the Real American Crolo. And it is time

1181
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: for the high five. I'm gonna say the question. Sunny

1182
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: from elm would you'll answer first? Gil from North Hollywood boys,

1183
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: you'll answer seconds. It'll be the same question, just answer

1184
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: it one after another. Question Number one, how old are

1185
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: you the first time you smoked weed? And where did

1186
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: you get it from? And eight? I was eight years

1187
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: old and it was a thirteen year old kid that's

1188
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: told half a joint from his father. Nice. I was six.

1189
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: That's good. He got me there. Okay, he took us

1190
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: in a little in the little club house that we

1191
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: had weed. Okay, Oh, and you Gil, I was I

1192
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: was eleven years old eighties six uh in the apartment.

1193
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: Were at one of my buddies had his sister was

1194
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: in high school. Have upon a ditching party or something

1195
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: went over there and they passed the joint and I

1196
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: took a talk and kept smoking after that. Nice. What

1197
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: is your favorite way to use cannabis? Eat it? That

1198
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 1: has to be the best with peanut butter. I don't

1199
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: got to taste it. Yeah, my my favorite way is

1200
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: a nice joint. There's nothing compared to a nice, beautiful

1201
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: joint that you roll in or just pack a cone

1202
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,439
Speaker 1: in there with a nice coroner and we're a rocket.

1203
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: Sounds like Trump was beautiful. It was great. It was great, great, perfect,

1204
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: the best. It was a great joint. Because everybody said

1205
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: he just had the perfect joint. Yeah, because everybody said so,

1206
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: nothing compares to you. Question number three of the high

1207
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: five was Sunny and Gil of American Cholo. Craziest place

1208
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: you ever used or smoked cannabis? Um in the back

1209
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: of the garage. There's nothing, nothing, nothing in the back

1210
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: of car. Hiding from the that's crazy, hiding from the

1211
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: because back in the day it was more serious. We

1212
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: got cracked with the joint. You were going to jail

1213
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: the back of the garage on the car smoke. Yeah,

1214
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: mine was, I guess off as crazy and I was

1215
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: in jail. I'm going on for parole the next day,

1216
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: and I'm still talking up an event and I'm smoking

1217
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: out and the staff comes. Then that hits the window.

1218
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, like like teaching chong over here. Then I

1219
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: get out and I'm more worried about having a dirty

1220
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: test because I was smoking while I was bustling instead

1221
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 1: of instead of smoking, all was out, So I think

1222
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: that was the crazy when you get out and before

1223
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: I go out for Pearl, Yeah, well like dam I'm

1224
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: gonna pass. That's why they want to test you, because

1225
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: they want to make if you were dirty when he

1226
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: came out, so when you come back, if you're dirty again.

1227
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: So I was going through the I was going through

1228
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: the loop and l A County and I see one

1229
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: of my homebods green eyes and and and um, you

1230
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: know there's just an older vent in there and he's

1231
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 1: walking through the cells and and he's like, hey, hol mey,

1232
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: come here, And I'm like, what's up. You know, I

1233
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: don't know what he's thinking, you know what I mean,

1234
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 1: But I could read if something's happening right now. He's like,

1235
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: you know, keep through showing me whatever. Whatever. So I'm

1236
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: standing there at the door, you know, looking left and right,

1237
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: and I don't even know what I'm looking for, but

1238
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,040
Speaker 1: I'm looking out that little window, you know what, and

1239
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: don't got the window. And I'm just standing there, like

1240
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, I'm literally looking back at him. And he's

1241
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,959
Speaker 1: sitting on the shipter you know, there's that little half

1242
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: wall and you know, and when you're going through the loop,

1243
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: and he's sitting there looking at me, and I'm just

1244
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: like there and then and he's doing something down there,

1245
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, he's taking a ship. I'm like, boom,

1246
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm back and forth. Oh doug. He he pulled out,

1247
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: he and I know where it came from. I didn't

1248
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: see the whole I didn't see the whole thing, but

1249
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: I could hear water flapping and ship and all kinds

1250
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: of things going on. And then all of a sudden,

1251
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I mean, boom. He stands up

1252
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: and he's got a perfect little thin, little pinner joint rolled.

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Speaker 1: Hey dude, it was the littlest joint right. So I'm

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01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: standing there in my a my and then yeah yeah

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01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: really so yeah so really ship we right, So then

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01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm looking, but I'm looking. I've got my face in

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01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: the window and I'm going through my homeboy Green and

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01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: eyes my homeboy Green. I was like, what's up, homes

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01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 1: you know, He's like, what what? What? What's popping? And

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01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: I was like, and now I know, we're already getting

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01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: ready to smoke a joint, you know, and me and

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01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: this floor, you know, trying to communicate, and I'm like,

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01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna go. Wait a minute, I just see where

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01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: he pulled this. I really want to. I'm I'm knuckles

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01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: deeping and ready. I'm ready to go. And it's already happened.

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01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: That just got there. I just got there. So so

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01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: he's looking at me, and I got working a smoke

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01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: a joy right now, you know, and he's like, oh,

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01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: wait a minute, waiting. He comes and he's sprayed under

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01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: the door, you know, a bunch of that stuff, you know, sprayed,

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01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: and we smoked that joint, you know, and and then um,

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01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: you know, I never seen my homeboy after that because

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01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: I got sent to wherever I was going. I just

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01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: we lost each other. Five years later, that phone calls

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01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: me back and goes, b oh, you know, I got

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01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: fucking I got busted for you guys. I said, what

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01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: do you mean? He said, well, when I went and

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01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: sprayed everything, you know, and then you guys left that

1279
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: that hall, they smelled the weed and they knew that

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01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: I was trying to cover for you. They knew they

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01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: were covered for you. I had a good job, bro,

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01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: they threw me and fucking you know, back in the

1283
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: I started all over. I had to start all over.

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01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: I had a good job in the county and I

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01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: lost it. Because you feel good about that blue, Yeah,

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01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: I know. I said that wasn't my fault. That that's

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01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: your fault, homeboy's and I didn't actually do it. It

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01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: was your idea. Number five I bought myself. How about

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01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:22,479
Speaker 1: number four? Number four? Mark? Wasn't that show? The best

1290
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: part of the show is here. We will be set story.

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01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: We are here with American Cholo, Sonny and Gil. Are

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01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: you ready for question numbers? Sir? Hi five? Hi five?

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01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: What are your go to munchies when you get high?

1294
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: I think everyone gonna answer cookies? Cookie, cookies. Do anybody

1295
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: say you kind of look like the cookie monster? To okay,

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01:06:54,440 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: cookie might go to munchies here ping you hear the

1297
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: ding ding man going around? He got soft ice cream,

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01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: he got naturals. Man, that's the best one. You got

1299
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: to live in the hood. You know this. You know

1300
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: you don't hear. That's how they're calling for us. Hello, everything,

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01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: ice creams, t shirts, balls, everything, They got everything but

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01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: webst brutal. No, we don't have those. It is now

1303
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: time for question number five. And I gotta tell you, guys,

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01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: Sonny Gil, you're sucking a lot cooler than Craig said.

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01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: You guys are gonna be Who were these two totals? Joe?

1306
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: Are they your cousins might gonna show up? They might

1307
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: have yeah, Pit actually say when they walked in, Pitt goes, hey, Joe,

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01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: your cousins are here today bringing bring your cousins. They're

1309
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: looking for money. That's a better what you told me. Well,

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01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: that was one. I asked him for the trailer, where's

1311
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: our trader, thinking I'm a big star coming on my

1312
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,919
Speaker 1: heart and he tells me, oh, it's under my desk

1313
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: and there's a there's a down there like that. He said,

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01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: all right, here we go on like well and they go,

1315
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: you know, your tiewark type of guy, like, why I

1316
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: figured whatever. You're asking for a fucking trailer. I'll give

1317
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: you a trailer if you think we've got a trailer

1318
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: for you foot trailer. Question number five, I'm sorry, Craig

1319
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: that we're having a good time. My bad. Maybe we

1320
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: should just get right to the questions and not laugh.

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01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: Let's keep it trading face. Let's keep it straight face

1322
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,640
Speaker 1: for the fucking boot over there. All right, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Question number five. You're hear in the background getting twisted.

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01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: Can we get to it enough? Trollo talk around here?

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01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: You know what? Joe, Wait, wait till wait till I

1326
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: get in there. You know, hey, funny thing is when

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Speaker 1: the Jewish guys were on here. You want to talk

1328
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: all night? Hey, let's talk about harneka candy. That's candles together.

1329
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: When you let your candle, you go from the right

1330
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: or the left. Then afterwards are I can't we light

1331
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: each other's candles? He my yamaka got chorn. You gotta

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01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: su your track, lose the one who said it. I'm

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01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 1: just bringing up the things that I heard. Yeah, but

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01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 1: now it means the story when I got stopped by

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01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: the cops when I was sixteen. Please do yes, here.

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01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: It was a good one. Can tell us about it

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01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: was most most? Question number five and the high five.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear number five. Tell your story, Craig, Yeah, your head,

1339
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: go ahead. Never five? High five. Oh, we're having such

1340
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: a good time with these two clos. And I'm not

1341
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: kidding because they are the American cholos on YouTube and

1342
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: on Instagram. Is the real American trollers. It's sunny and Gil.

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01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 1: Question number five, if you could smoke cannabis with anyone

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01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: day are alive, who would it be? I have to

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01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 1: be Fluffy? Who I would have to have to do

1346
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: with that? Let me hit Fluffy up because I would

1347
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: just no, no, just because imagine you being high and

1348
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 1: playing around with that dude. How bad he would get?

1349
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: Oh he'd be funny, funny, funny. You know he gives

1350
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 1: some questionable things too, but he'd be funny. He's a

1351
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 1: funny dude right there. Yeah, I love I would love this.

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01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: I would actually get hyped just to do it with him,

1353
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: Like Blue's gonna get a card on a big homie.

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01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: What do you got, Gil? Who would it been? You

1355
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: know what? I don't even think about this one. I

1356
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: think I probably want to smoke a Barack Obama. Man,

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01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: I think I think Barack would let it on. Louisen

1358
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 1: just come out and be a cool player, cool brother

1359
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: man like he is. Man, I think, well he already

1360
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: smoked before you know, we already heard that. He's like

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01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: one more time, Okay, Bill Clinton? Yeah, I think Hill

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Speaker 1: this time that would be a good ones. Those are

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Speaker 1: those are both good ones. So thank you guys so much. Man,

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01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 1: is there anything you guys want to plug before we

1365
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 1: let you guys go? Uh sunny Americ Control on Instagram

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01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 1: and uh boo boo w boo boo w that American

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01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: Americ Control over after our third party Umo Americ Control.

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01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: You know, I'm so confused. He's still smoking. He's still smoking.

1369
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,839
Speaker 1: He throw me all out from Boo boo Americ Control

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01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 1: on Instagram. Shout out to boom other than that much.

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01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: Want to thank you guys so much, thank the brothers

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01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: for havings on and hopefully we have you guys on

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01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: and uh just thank you guys. Man a great time

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01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 1: in your whole crew. Man, watch on YouTube. Watch you

1375
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 1: and when you watch it, the good thing is you

1376
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: won't get shot, so it's good show. You're gonna watch

1377
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 1: it in four d like when you're at that brownie. Well,

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01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: there it is. Guys, Cannabis Talk one on one Remember

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