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Speaker 1: I think you guys are going to get a good

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Speaker 2: The National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance wants Chuck to

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Speaker 2: quote big old women in San Antonio and that it's

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Speaker 2: a quote gold mine for weight watchers unquote. For whom

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Speaker 2: Chuck is a spokesperson, making slurs about body size is

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Speaker 3: Bone you tell him, Junck, Oh, he was just making

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Speaker 2: He didn't really mean anything.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so he is not apologized. And I believe this

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Speaker 3: It's beautiful? We're not going there. Would you go on

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Speaker 3: You got I wouldn't go to that. Want to do

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Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not going to gas And I mean

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Speaker 4: That's what they have been a Victoria's secret. Jack.

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Speaker 3: Why is it seem because the dem women down and

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Speaker 5: and author of the book The End of the Alphabet,

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Speaker 6: Isabelle, welcome, Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 5: Can you do you want to react just to what's

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Speaker 5: had this breaking news. It just for a lot of

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Speaker 5: people seems like, shouldn't states be able to help with

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Speaker 4: Ah. Yes, but you're thinking logically, which sadly is not

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Speaker 6: But look, this is a huge win.

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Speaker 4: I think there's been a lot said generationally about this issue,

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Speaker 1: All right, all Isabel, I have seen sorry Bucka. Also,

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Speaker 1: Your book is about how gen Z can save America.

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Speaker 1: A couple of questions here, tied together. How old are

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Speaker 6: Way to kick this off?

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Speaker 4: Generally speaking, the consensus is that gen Z starts in

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Speaker 4: I often hear that gen Z is this overwhelmingly lazy, entitled, leftist,

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Speaker 5: But don't like twenty percent of Gen Z identify as

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Speaker 5: LBGTQ LBGTQIA plus and the number of trends within that

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Speaker 4: If you have a gen Zer in your life that

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Speaker 5: You ever have a bunch of old guys one who

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Speaker 5: going to be the nominee?

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Speaker 1: Oh that's too serious.

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Speaker 4: I've been saying for a year and a half that

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Speaker 4: he wasn't. But I think we're getting a little down

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Speaker 4: to the wire. I think the DNC in August will

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Speaker 4: be very telling.

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Speaker 3: Do you agree with Buck across the board? Just want

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Speaker 3: to make sure Clay get all.

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Speaker 1: Right, I said last kar this is the legit last question.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever dated a guy and told him he

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Speaker 1: needed to drive faster?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean I'm a fast driver. I'm a pedal

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Speaker 6: to the metal girl. I got places to be.

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Speaker 4: My parents are probably rolling their eyes hearing that, because

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Speaker 4: I'm the only speeder in the family.

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Speaker 1: But I just, yeah, I can't drive too slow. It's

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Speaker 1: his wife had to tell him to drive.

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Speaker 5: A kidney shot right right after the bell. A kidney

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Speaker 5: shot right after the bell? All right, Isabelle Brown. Everybody

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Speaker 5: gen Z Streamer the book The End of the Alphabet,

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Speaker 5: How gen Z Can Save America?

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Speaker 3: Isabelle. It has been most fun. We'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me Sundays with Clay Fus.

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Speaker 1: I saw this this morning. Both the New York Times

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Speaker 1: and the Wall Street Journal wrote about it. There is

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Speaker 1: a ranking of top twenty five countries by happiness. Basically,

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Speaker 1: how do people consider themselves? And I thought we talked

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Speaker 1: to Abigail Schreier earlier in the week, the United States

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Speaker 1: happiness is collapsing to the extent that life, liberty, the

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Speaker 1: pursuit of happiness is a by nature, I think, target

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Speaker 1: of this country. The fact that the United States would

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Speaker 1: now be twenty third overall in happiness ranking, that is

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Speaker 1: below the Slovenia, the United Arab Emirates, below the Czech Republic, Lithuania,

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Speaker 1: Costa Rica, Kuwait, Austria. I mean a lot of these

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Speaker 1: countries that are ostensibly happier than us are not necessarily

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Speaker 1: even anywhere near the geopolitical stratus that we are, right,

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Speaker 1: They don't have the economic wealth. And when you dive

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Speaker 1: into the numbers, Buck, it actually even gets more interesting.

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Speaker 1: And I'm curious for all of you out there listening

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Speaker 1: what your theories would be. I would actually like to

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Speaker 1: hear your theory, Buck. I mean, you can blow us

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Speaker 1: up at Clay and Buck at Clay Travis at buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton because I think this is such an interesting question.

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Speaker 1: The reason why the United States has a happiness deficit,

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Speaker 1: as it were, is not because of people sixty and older.

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Speaker 1: They are, according to this study, the eleventh happiest in

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Speaker 1: the entire world. So it's not crazy. If you're over

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Speaker 1: sixty and a lot of you are listening to us

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Speaker 1: right now, you tend to be fairly happy. But what's

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Speaker 1: going on here is if you're under thirty, so your kids,

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Speaker 1: your grandkids, if you're on the younger age of listenership

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Speaker 1: for this radio program, or you're listening on the podcast,

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Speaker 1: you rank sixty second, And that's the biggest gap in

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Speaker 1: any country, buck in the world. Now between people over

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Speaker 1: sixty and people under thirty. What's going on?

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Speaker 5: So this is where my my generally salty demeanor I

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Speaker 5: think works in America's favor because the things that really

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Speaker 5: generally gauge happiness are ambition and expectation. Right for a

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Speaker 5: lot of people at least, ambition and expectation, what do

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Speaker 5: you want for your life now? If you've been raised

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Speaker 5: to just want to go as part of the system

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Speaker 5: and have your you know, your vacation and your time off.

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Speaker 3: And you know, you don't want to really be in

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Speaker 3: the fight in any meaningful way.

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Speaker 5: You want to live in Finland, okay, you want to

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Speaker 5: live in some of these places where you have not

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Speaker 5: socialism per se, but a huge welfare state and very

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Speaker 5: high taxation where you have and I'll also point out

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Speaker 5: these countries. It's not very well known, but even a

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Speaker 5: country like Sweden, which where is that on this Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Sweden's very.

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Speaker 3: You know, for overall, very high.

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Speaker 5: Sweden was very socialist I think in through the seventies

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Speaker 5: into the eighties, and then it started becoming a free

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Speaker 5: market economy or much more of a free market economy.

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Speaker 5: And now it just has high taxation and a very

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Speaker 5: large again very large, not just welfare.

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Speaker 3: State but state services.

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Speaker 5: Right, but the economy doesn't function as an actual socialist

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Speaker 5: state at all. But you look at these countries and

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Speaker 5: you know they're not changing the world. Individuals in them

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Speaker 5: are not changing the world. We grow up in a

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Speaker 5: society now where everybody is being constantly and this is

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Speaker 5: why I think the under thirty happiness to address this

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Speaker 5: issue is so low for America right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the key, I think.

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Speaker 5: Because I think people that are older have more perspective

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Speaker 5: on America still kicks ass. Like we talked about the

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Speaker 5: problems here, but America is actually still number one. And

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Speaker 5: I'd also point out what happens to find them Without America,

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Speaker 5: they start speaking a lot of Russian everybody, okay, a

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Speaker 5: lot of these other countries without us. Without you know,

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Speaker 5: you who listen to this, who have served your country

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Speaker 5: and the armed forces, or or you know, will serve

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Speaker 5: in the armed forces, depending on how old you are, these

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Speaker 5: other countries can't even exist in their little changri la.

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Speaker 5: You know, they're Nirvana of Oh, college is paid for it,

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Speaker 5: healthcare is paid for Yeah, that's because what are you

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Speaker 5: spending on your defense? But put all that aside, Clay,

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Speaker 5: And just to get us back into the focus here,

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Speaker 5: which is the under thirties in America. Yeah, under thirties

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Speaker 5: are unhappy because we are constantly now bombarded with not

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Speaker 5: just excellence within America, but global excellence because of I

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Speaker 5: do think social media plays a big role in this.

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Speaker 5: We are constantly being compared to the richest, best athlete,

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Speaker 5: best looking, best entrepreneur, go down the list in the

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Speaker 5: world in America because we have such a concentration of

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Speaker 5: them here in America, but also in some other places.

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Speaker 5: And I think that that's where people have lost a

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Speaker 5: bit of context and don't understand that. You know, I've

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Speaker 5: been in some really crappy countries for long stretches of time.

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Speaker 5: If you do that, you really start to realize how

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Speaker 5: amazing this place is.

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Speaker 1: My theory is maybe a little bit different. I do

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Speaker 1: think social media plays in. I think that if you're

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Speaker 1: under thirty in this country, you've been conditioned with the

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Speaker 1: idea that America is a profoundly racist and force for evil.

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Speaker 1: And if you see the overall decline in religious rates,

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Speaker 1: and you've hit on this too, that climate change is

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Speaker 1: a religion for people who don't believe in religion. I

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Speaker 1: think that wokeism is a religion for people that don't

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Speaker 1: believe in religion. And if you are constantly being marinated

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Speaker 1: in the idea that because America had slavery in eighteen sixty,

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Speaker 1: you can never atone for the ills of this country,

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Speaker 1: and if you're not being taught about the true history

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Speaker 1: of the nation. What stands out to me is not

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Speaker 1: necessarily that young people are unhappy. It's why is the

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Speaker 1: gap between young and old in a America higher than

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Speaker 1: any country in the world right now. And I think

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Speaker 1: it's because if you're over sixty, you were raised in

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Speaker 1: America is a force for good. Look at what we

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Speaker 1: did in World War Two, look at the overall history

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Speaker 1: of America. You live through the Civil rights movement. You've

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Speaker 1: seen America, I think, be a force innately for good.

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Speaker 1: And people who are young have no real struggles, right

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Speaker 1: They didn't get drafted to fight in Vietnam. They haven't

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Speaker 1: and I'm talking about real life struggles. They haven't had

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Speaker 1: to go fight the Nazis, they haven't dealt with the

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Speaker 1: Great Depression, and they are buying into this idea. I

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Speaker 1: think social media works in on it, but that America

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Speaker 1: is not a force for good. And with an absence

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Speaker 1: of religion, to your point on ambition and what you

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Speaker 1: strive for, they're profoundly lost and there's a void that

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Speaker 1: is being filled by things that are making them less happy.

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of them buck. This is

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Speaker 1: why I thought our conversation with Isabelle Brown yesterday was

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Speaker 1: so interesting, because I see it in my own kids.

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Speaker 1: A lot of them are aware that what they're being

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Speaker 1: told is not true and that it's not working for them,

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Speaker 1: and they're desperately seeking answers and they don't know how

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Speaker 1: to find them. Does that make sense. It's not uncommon

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Speaker 1: for young people. I think it's worse for them psychologically

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Speaker 1: today than it might have been for other generations.

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Speaker 5: I think every generation of young people thinks that they're

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Speaker 5: you know, go back. I mean, if you talk about

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Speaker 5: our parents' generation, you know, the sixties and the seventies,

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Speaker 5: oh man, you know, the.

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Speaker 3: World was so bleak and the oil embargo and.

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Speaker 1: No, but they they were forces for good. In the

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Speaker 1: Baby boomers, right, the Baby Boomers are the most self entitled,

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Speaker 1: like obsessed generation, in my opinion, that believes that they

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Speaker 1: made the world a better place, Like does I feel you're.

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Speaker 3: Talking about Americans? And I don't think.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that the Baby Boom American generation thought that.

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Speaker 5: I think that they were riddled with a lot of

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Speaker 5: guilt over Vietnam and.

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Speaker 1: You know, anyway, but I feel like a lot of

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Speaker 1: them stood up and felt like they were engaged. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that people under the age of thirty feel

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Speaker 1: like they really are involved in the choices that are

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Speaker 1: being made in the I don't know there is one

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Speaker 1: answer I'm curious for people out there listening. The gap

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Speaker 1: that doesn't exist anywhere else in the world is certainly there,

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Speaker 1: and it's open and right for explanation.

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Speaker 5: America, Germany, New Zealand, Canada are the countries that all

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Speaker 5: have really low numbers.

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Speaker 3: In the under thirty index.

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Speaker 5: Now, far be it for me to be able to

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Speaker 5: analyze the contemporary German psyche like I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on over there. Like every

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Speaker 5: German I've met, you know, they're nice people, but I

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Speaker 5: don't know what they're thinking. But in terms of Canada

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Speaker 5: and the US, I mean, I do think that this

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Speaker 5: is Look, there are some things. We do have a

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Speaker 5: structural debt problem. We have had the massive transfer of

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Speaker 5: wealth from young too old, but which is still occurring.

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Speaker 5: And people don't like this, but that is what entitlements

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Speaker 5: actually are. People say, I pay into them, will you

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Speaker 5: take out twice what you put into them over the

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Speaker 5: course of your earnings on average, So you're actually burdening

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Speaker 5: future generations with And you know, just like when we're

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Speaker 5: hopefully off, Medicare is still there for us.

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Speaker 3: We'll see what ends up happening. But I think that's

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Speaker 3: part of it.

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Speaker 5: Clay, and I also think that people, yes, there's an

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Speaker 5: ideology of wokeness. Little Isabel yesterday was telling us that

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Speaker 5: a lot of gen z are not woke. I don't know,

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Speaker 5: I mean.

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Speaker 1: Or that some of them are rejecting it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm everyone I meet under thirty like

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Speaker 5: lives in an alternate universe except for the ones who

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Speaker 5: listened to this show.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, we appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: But everybody else who's in that generation, I think, to

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Speaker 5: be fair, how much interaction do we really have with

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Speaker 5: people under thirty on a day to day basis. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I you know, yeah, I don't know about your I

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Speaker 5: don't know about your world. I just see them on

646
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Speaker 5: TikTok and social media stuff and I'm like, okay, so

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Speaker 5: they know nothing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm around my kids.

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Speaker 5: But yes, yeah, you have a you have a much

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Speaker 5: better line into you, like you understand, like you know

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Speaker 5: what what high school.

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Speaker 3: Kids are thinking about.

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Speaker 5: I don't know anything, but I will say this also,

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Speaker 5: and I hot tip my friend at David Harsanyi, who

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Speaker 5: wrote a book about this. You know, people will say, oh,

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Speaker 5: They're like, oh, it's so great, you know, everyone has

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Speaker 5: a grass is greener phenomenon with other countries.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, and I have you ever been

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Speaker 3: to Sweden. I'm just gonna tell you, Yeah, Sweden, nice

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Speaker 3: people whatever. Go to Sweden in January and tell me

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Speaker 3: that you want to live there.

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Speaker 5: That's what I was in Sweden and January. There's a

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Speaker 5: lot of stuff about this that. And go there and

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Speaker 5: try to start a business, go there and try to

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Speaker 5: do something that really changes the world. You know that

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Speaker 5: the if England, this is what I was saying about

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Speaker 5: Harsanyi's point.

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Speaker 3: If England were a US.

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Speaker 5: State, play it would be the poorest state per capita

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Speaker 5: in the United States. It would be poorer than Mississippi.

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Speaker 5: No offense to Mississippi, but I'm just saying it would

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Speaker 5: be the poorest state in the Union. And yet we

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Speaker 5: think of the English as fancy and having free healthcare. No,

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Speaker 5: actually they're kind of beaten down by an enormous state

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Speaker 5: in the National Health Service. And so you know, part

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Speaker 5: of this is with age comes wisdom. And I can't

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Speaker 5: believe I'm minding this. This clays older than I am,

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Speaker 5: as we know, by many years. Though I guess he

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Speaker 5: has something I.

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Speaker 1: Will say this too a so we go to break here.

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Speaker 1: Here are the two countries that under thirty year olds

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Speaker 1: are the most happy, in Lithuania and Israel. How many

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Speaker 1: American under thirties would like to live in Lithuania. I'm

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Speaker 1: just raising it as an issue. Like everything, to your

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Speaker 1: point is relative. One of my favorite stats is if

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Speaker 1: you're one of the poorest in I think ten percent

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Speaker 1: in America, you would be one of the twenty percent

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Speaker 1: wealthiest it in India. So I don't know it's about money,

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Speaker 1: but it's certainly not understanding economics factors.

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Speaker 5: If you're twenty five in Lithuania, you're still hearing stories

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Speaker 5: from your parents about standing in breadlines when it was

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Speaker 5: the Soviet Union.

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Speaker 3: So I totally get why.

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Speaker 5: Lithuania is so happy in that age group. But there's

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Speaker 5: very clear reasons for that, because it is as I said,

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Speaker 5: it's about expectation and ambition. What do you think about

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Speaker 5: your situation compared to other relevant situations. By the way,

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Speaker 5: it's also part of the anatomy of a revolution. For example,

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Speaker 5: it's not that people are so poor. There are a

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Speaker 5: lot of poor countries where there's no revolutions. Revolution comes. Well,

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Speaker 5: there's an number of things, but one of them is

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Speaker 5: when people think that their expectations are being unmet by

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Speaker 5: their society and by the state. So a lot of

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Speaker 5: it is, you know, Clay, you want to be happy,

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Speaker 5: lower your expectations. There you go, that's going a bumper sticker.

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Speaker 1: That's why, that's why my wife is so happy in

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Speaker 1: our marriage. But