1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Well, now is time for our daily Bloomberg Law Brief, 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: exploring legal issues in the news, and it's brought to 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: you by American Arbitration Association. Business disputes are inevitable, resolve 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: faster with the American Arbitration Association, the global leader in 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: alternative dispute resolution for over ninety years. More at a 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: dr dot org. Today, Bloomberg Law host dom Grasso discusses 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: prosecutors in Brooklyn resting their case against former HSBC currency 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: trader Mark Johnson for alleged currency rigging. She speaks with 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: Robert Hawkeett, a professor at Cornell University Law School, and 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg for an exchange reporter Leanne Newon, Will you start 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: with the description of the charges and front running? Sure, 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: so that that challenge is that is that Mr Johnson had, 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: of course the inside information about the pending currency purchase, 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: because of course he received the order, and so he 15 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: claim is that sort of an anticipation of that purchases 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: actual actually happening, He bought a lot of town sterling 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: on the chief with a view right essentially to capitalizing 18 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: on the price rise that would occur if he structured 19 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: the order itself. What sort of properly right and amount 20 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: it sort of drove off the price. So the claim 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: is that this is essentially a fraudulent act because he 22 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: essentially endeavored to manipulate the price of the currency in 23 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: a way that rendered it more expensive toward his clients. Uh. 24 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: And of course at same time he paid very little 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: for it or much less for it himself, and so 26 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: he was essentially pocketing the spread between those two of 27 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: those prices. Lennon, The jury has heard tapes of a 28 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: phone call. Prosecutors say, is the real time talk of 29 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: the front running scheme. It's hard to be. Tapes as 30 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: evidence tell us about the call. Well, what the there's 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: a lot of trader jargon in the phone call June, 32 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: But what essentially is occurring is, uh, the traders are 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: talking about a process called ramping the price, which means um, 34 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: you know, artificially inflating the price by buying a lot 35 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: of pounds. So the prosecutor they are alleging that they 36 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: did this, um, you know, to disadvantage their client and 37 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: to make the client end up paying um an inflated 38 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: price for the pounds. Bob, one of the prosecution's expert witnesses, 39 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: was asked by the defense about pre hedging. What is 40 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: that and how does it complicate the prosecution's case. Yeah, 41 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of argument about this. But so the 42 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: idea behind pre hedging is that, well, if you're anticipating 43 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: a large order being placed by a client and you're 44 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: going to biolog currency in the market in order to 45 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: make that sale to that client, you might purchase some 46 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: for your own account in advance, just in case the 47 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 1: price starts rising so quickly that you're und up having 48 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: to pay a lot more yourself. The ideas you're sort 49 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: of in effect stocking up your inventory of it in 50 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: advance of the actual purchase and sale for your client. 51 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: Um and and again you can imagine a legitimate reason 52 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: to do that, but of course it's also there's a 53 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: significant gray area between that legitimate form of hedging on 54 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: the one hand, and just out and out front running 55 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: on the other hand. 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