1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class, A production 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio, Hello and Happy Friday. I'm Tracy V. Wilson 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: and I'm Holly Frye. We talked about Dorothy Arsner this week. 4 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: We sure did back you. You researched and wrote the 5 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: Billy Burke episode where we had previously mentioned Dorothy Arsner. 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: And when I looked back at that, I was trying 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: to remember, like what specifically we had said, and you 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: had a little note in there that said, maybe a 9 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: future episode. Finally its own episode written by the opposite 10 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: person from the person who wrote the Billy Burke episode. Yeah, yes, 11 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't get to him. And you had asked me, 12 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: are you doing this one? And I was like no, now, 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: so hooray for Tracy. I also will say maybe a 14 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: future episode and then forget that I ever said that. Yeah, 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: rediscover a person five years later and say oh yeah, 16 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: oh so number one. Boy? Did I love reading everything 17 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: about Dorothy Arsner. I love all the pictures of Dorothy Arsner. 18 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: I find her personal style to be great. I love 19 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: the pictures. I love the pictures of her, like on 20 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: a film set in a cowboy suit. Well, I was 21 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: very into that. You know, I love a little themed dressing. 22 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: I think it's super fun. Yeah, I love that she 23 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: was able to carve out a career for herself in 24 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: Hollywood at a time when because of her gender and 25 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: her sexual orientation like that would have been really hard 26 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: for her. And it is kind of speculative, but I 27 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: do think that's one of the reasons that she just 28 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: didn't want to talk about herself, and she didn't even 29 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: want to talk about her work. And this included like 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: doing publicity for a film, not wanting to discuss the 31 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: immediate previous film, or even doing publicity for a film 32 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: that just came out and not even really wanting to 33 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: talk about that film anymore. So there was one interview 34 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: that she gave in nineteen thirty six and they were 35 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: asking about it her work, and here's what she said. Quote, 36 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, they are ancient history. The 37 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: latest picture of mine Craig's Wife happens to be a hit, 38 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: But why should I talk about it and think about it? Now? 39 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: It's finished, I'm through with it. There's nothing more I 40 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: can do about it, So why should I dwell on it? 41 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: You know, I understand this completely. I understand this in 42 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 1: terms of the way our podcast work, but you tell 43 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: me your understanding of it. Yeah, same thing. I mean, 44 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: it's like it's one of those things where I feel like, 45 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: once you've put a thing out into the world, unless 46 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna go back and edit it, which some creators do, 47 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 1: talking about it a whole bunch just gets you hung 48 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: up in it. Sure, and you know, potentially like, what 49 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: are you going to answer some one who is like, 50 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: but why didn't you blah blah blah, I just didn't write. Yeah, 51 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: it's not gonna change. And then also, you know, she 52 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: seems like somebody that was so I'm trying to think 53 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: of exactly the right word. She's very driven and focused 54 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: in her work, which I think probably meant like I'm 55 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: busy thinking about the next thing. I don't really have 56 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: time to retread. Yeah that makes sense too. Yeah. Yeah. 57 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: I similarly will like if I make an actual error 58 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: and someone alerts me to that error in something that 59 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: I have done, yeah, I will correct that error. Yeah. 60 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: But sometimes it's like this should have been phrased in 61 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: a very subtly different way and it's not anything meaningful, 62 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: And I'm like, if I continue to think about that 63 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: for the next ten years, all of my life will 64 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: be regrets. Yeah, I mean it will. It will block 65 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: you from getting other good work done because your brain 66 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: is occupied with an unshiftable gear, I mean, ruminations on 67 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: things that have already happened. I wonder too if she 68 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: also just like was uncomfortable with accolades. Oh possibly, Yeah, 69 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, because even when people are saying nice things 70 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: about my work, I don't want to talk about it. 71 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: That feels weird and yeah, self indulgent and gross. Yeah. 72 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: Occasionally I will be somewhere being introduced to someone and 73 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: someone will like make a big deal about the podcast, 74 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I want to leave now. Like I 75 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: usually say something very potty mouthed and self deprecating at 76 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: that point. Yeah. One of the books that I read 77 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: for this did have that partial autobiography in it as 78 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: one of the sort of appendices. And we don't know 79 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: for sure that she stopped writing because she got about 80 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: to the point where she was going to meet Marian 81 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: And how how do you have an autobiography where you're 82 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: not talking about that when that's a big part of 83 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: your life. Again, speculative, but totally makes sense. She worked 84 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: on that. I think it about nineteen fifty five, so 85 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: after her film career was done, but you know, she 86 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: still had some decades of her life left after that. 87 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: Apparently she was in a restaurant in nineteen seventy three, 88 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: which was, you know, much closer to the end of 89 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: her life, and the server asked her when she was 90 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: going to write her autobiography and she said never. Yeah, 91 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: and I loved that. Anyway, this is one of the 92 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: most fun to me episodes that I have worked on 93 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: in a little bit. Yeah, she's delightful. I liked her 94 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: a lot. We've not talked about her for very long, 95 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: but I don't feel like I have a whole lot 96 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: more to say. Some of some of them are lost, 97 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: as we said, some of her movies you are able 98 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: to find through streaming services and things like that. Some 99 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: of them are old enough to be in the public domain, 100 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: some not. I did watch some of the bullfighting footage 101 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,119 Speaker 1: that she entered cut together. I kind of thought about 102 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: what if I had like a Dorothy Arsner film weekend 103 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: and watched a bunch of drothy Arsner movies. I did 104 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: not wind up doing that, but I may still at 105 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: some point check out various movies that I've seen, not 106 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: seen all of beyond the clips that I saw for 107 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: the purposes of research here Strawberry Domestications. We did. Some 108 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: aspects of this reminded me a little bit of when 109 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: we did that episode on Nick's versus Headden and the 110 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: decision of whether tomatoes were fruit or a vegetable. Some 111 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: similar stuff in there about which things are fruits and Yeah, 112 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: though to the best of my knowledge, there's never been 113 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: a big, yucky legal battle over this one. I don't think, zoo. 114 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: There are One thing that I wanted to mention is 115 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: that it fell to you to read a section of 116 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: the outline that featured the title of a book called 117 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: The Great herbal And It's spelled in very old timey 118 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: spellings when things were not standardized E T E and 119 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: then herbil is E R B A L L. I 120 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: think I don't have a handy in front of me. 121 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: And the whole time I was doing research, every time 122 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: I came across it, I called it the Great hair 123 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: Ball and make myself giggle. It's not that funny, but 124 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: you know, we find our joy where we can. I 125 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: also one of the other things that made me think 126 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: about this, I follow a lot of gardeners on huh 127 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: social media, one of whom is this amazing English gardener 128 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: named Simon Ackroyd, and he was pointing out it's in 129 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: he has a new book out that's about like how 130 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: you can cultivate your own plants from things that you 131 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: would buy for your grocery supply, like okay, strawberries, and 132 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: one is you know, like slicing off some of the 133 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: exterior skin of a strawberry, letting it dry on a 134 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: paper towel, and then when it's dry, you can scrape 135 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: the seeds off and plant those, which I am in 136 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: the middle of propagating, which is very exciting, but it 137 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: really is easier to do it just from Yeah, but 138 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: you don't have the whole plant if you're buying a 139 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: strawberry at the grocery store. I also had a moment 140 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: where those statistics we were reading at the end about 141 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: each person eating an estimated four zero point eighty five 142 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: pounds of strawberries annually. I don't know if I believe 143 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: that in which direction both okay and I think it's 144 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: because like they're there are years of my life where 145 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: I'll be like, yeah, strawberries, and I eat a ton 146 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: of them, and then I could go two years without 147 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: eating a strawberry. Yeah. So I just don't know how 148 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: common they are in other people's diets. I love strawberries, 149 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: and I love berries in general, and having gotten in 150 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: the habit of trying to shop more locally when we 151 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: are able, that means a lot of my berry consumption 152 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: is now happening when the berries are in season in Massachusetts, right, 153 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: And the strawberry season in Massachusetts, you know, unless you're 154 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: somewhere where there's a big greenhouse set up and all 155 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: of that, Like, it's not a long season no for 156 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: strawberries and Massachusetts. But I do love them. I like them. 157 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm you know, once again, we're back to the hydroponic garden. Yeah, 158 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: so I can have this is part of it. I 159 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: want things year round. Yeah, And I don't I don't 160 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: love the idea of all of the the travel that 161 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: fruits and vegetables have to go through and how long 162 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: they are sitting in survival climate as they try to 163 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: make their way in all of the the you know, 164 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: the waste that comes from those shipments. So if I 165 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: could just grow them here at the house, yeah, in 166 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: my house, So I can mash them into cocktails. Marvelous. 167 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: When I was living in the Atlanta area the first year, 168 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: I was going to have a nice little container garden 169 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: out on the back patio, and I had gotten all 170 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: these little plants, and it included a number of strawberry plants. 171 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: I was so excited. And then I broke my leg 172 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: and refused anyone, refused to ask anyone for help with anything, 173 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: and so all of my plants died. Yeah, and I 174 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: have never since then made the same level of attempt 175 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: at like growing food plants at home. I've govern other 176 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: plants at various times, but not so much with the 177 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: food plants. Did have a good herb garden, yeah, on 178 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: the back deck here for a couple of years. You 179 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: have a good climate for lettuce. Do have a good 180 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: climate for lettuce? You could be growing lettuce all the time. Yeah. 181 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: I have put off any of my ongoing questions of 182 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: growing things indoors because we are trying to track down 183 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: a potential allergy situation with one of the cats, just 184 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: like trying not to introduce more things into the household 185 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: for a little bit. Yeah, yeah, uh yeah. We mostly 186 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: keep the cats out of the rooms where the plants are, 187 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: oh sure. However, one of our newer cats, it's her 188 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: habit in the mornings to walk all the plants with 189 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: me check them. I love that. It's pretty cute. Really. 190 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: She just wants to hang out in our bar all 191 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: the time. Yeah. I don't know how I got a 192 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: barfly cat, but I did, and that's fine with me. 193 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: And that's where like our our hydroponics are because I 194 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: use them for garnish. Yeah, and she just wants to 195 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: run in there. She'll sit there and cry at the 196 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: door because she wants to drink. I don't know. I 197 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: don't know what she thinks is going to happen. But 198 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: it's pretty cute. But she has to be watched like 199 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: a hawk because without any pre sniff or investigation, she 200 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: will run up to any plant and bite it. Okay, 201 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: so we have to be careful and not Yeah. I 202 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: don't have anything right now that would be dangerous to cats. Yeah, 203 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: but I don't want to risk it either. To return 204 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: to when I was living in Atlanta, one time I 205 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: got a little container garden of succulents. Would that me 206 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: or you? And I came into the house with the succulents, 207 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: and I returned to the car to get the second 208 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: load of thing to bring in, and in the time 209 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: that I was gone, Cestina just bit the end right 210 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: off one of the succulent plants and it was I 211 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: made sure it was not a plant that was gonna 212 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: hurt her, but it was. It's probably very bitter because 213 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: then she foamed at the mouth and I was like, 214 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: maybe you took me one minute I was not in 215 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: the house to go take a bite out of this plant. 216 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry this happened to you, but this is 217 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: a consequence. Yeah. Cats will always pick out one moment 218 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: that you're not looking, yep, and be like, you know what, 219 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna raise some hell today. Here we go. I 220 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: love them me too. Our newer babies are sort of 221 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: hell racers. I will tell an unrelated to history story 222 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: about them. We have talked anything on the show before 223 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: about the Murphy door that we have that goes to 224 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: my husband's office. Ahh. He had wanted one for a 225 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: long time and I bought him one for his birthday 226 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: some years back. And so you know, when we first 227 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: installed it, it was tricky to get the balance right 228 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: so it could smoothly open and close. It's quite heavy, 229 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: and yet the new cats can easily open it, which 230 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: his office is not really organized in a way that's 231 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: super safe for cats to run around in and also 232 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: create just havoc. And so as a temporary fix, he 233 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: put several heavy boxes in front of it, like when 234 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: we're not here, intending it for to be when we're 235 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: not here, but no, sooner had he put them up, 236 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: and they're substantially heavy items. But one of the new ladies, 237 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: who is a big, beautiful woman, she's a big cat, 238 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: trotted down there hip checked the boxes out of the 239 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: way and just walked right into his office like it 240 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: was a minor annoyance. So we are still having to 241 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: figure out how we work around that. They're diabolical, the 242 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: new ladies. We love them, but they are a whole 243 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: new level of tricky than we have dealt with since 244 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: the years when mister Burns was a youth. They're like 245 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: that level of tricky. I sure like plant history though, Yeah, 246 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: I just love it. Yeah, I love it, and I 247 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: like that there's a spy involved. Yeah. When you told 248 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: me you were working on an episode on strawberries, I 249 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: was like, what is there to say historically about strawberries? 250 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: And it was a delightful story. So spy missions, yeah, 251 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: they're very interesting and they've I mean, the one thing 252 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: that's interesting is that that mission has been written about 253 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: quite a lot throughout history, Yeah, which is nice. I 254 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: always wonder when that happens, because you know, other than 255 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: Fresier's original book, which isn't like hey, I was a spy, 256 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: it's more like, hey, I was I was exploring these areas. 257 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: I always wonder how much of it is colored by 258 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: like the early writeups of it. Yeah, have been reiterated 259 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: throughout time, but there's no good way to go back 260 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: and comparatively fact check that to reality. Right, But it's 261 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: pretty pretty widely accepted that he is the only one 262 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: who brought those five plants back. So thanks Harad, and 263 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: do shame because we love strawberry I love them a lot. 264 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: If this is your weekend coming up, I hope you 265 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: eat something delicious, whether that's a strawberry or anything else. 266 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: If you don't have time off, I still hope you 267 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: eat something delicious that delights your palette and your soul hopefully, 268 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: and then maybe you share a meal with somebody, because look, 269 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: in hard times, that's what's getting me through is meeting 270 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: friends for dinner, or having people over for drinks, or 271 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: whatever we gotta do to keep the faith. 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