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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Top ten Bobby Cast of two. My

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Speaker 1: name is Mike d producer of the Bobby Cast, and

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Speaker 1: i'll part one. I'll be taking you through numbers ten

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Speaker 1: through six. These are the interviews we love the most,

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Speaker 1: the ones you interacted with the most online, and the

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Speaker 1: episodes that if you miss them and their entirety, we

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Speaker 1: highly encourage you to go check out these full hour

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Speaker 1: long conversations. So let's kick it off with number ten,

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Speaker 1: J T. Harding. He has an energy that is infectious

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Speaker 1: and you're well aware of his energy from the very

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Speaker 1: first word he says on this interview. He has an

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Speaker 1: amazing story, a great outlook on life, and it's a

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Speaker 1: really great dresser. So here is JT. Hardening from episode

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Speaker 1: three fifty five talking about some of his cuts as

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Speaker 1: a songwriter and the time he opened up for Lincoln

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Speaker 1: Park Keith Urban's Somewhere on My Car he wrote that

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Speaker 1: with Keith Yes with Keith And do you know how

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Speaker 1: I met Keith Urban? Probably early for yeah, have no idea.

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Speaker 1: I was just too early for bumble. Uh. When Somewhere

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Speaker 1: with You came out, my friends started texting me saying,

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Speaker 1: Keith Urban is talking about your Candy Chesney song. He's

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Speaker 1: telling his fans to buy it. I think he made

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Speaker 1: a little link for it in the pre ituned days

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Speaker 1: or whatever. And Keith Urban did not know who wrote

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Speaker 1: liked that. You can imagine what a wild feeling that was.

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Speaker 1: And I was at a songwriter award show downtown. Everyone's

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Speaker 1: there at the wall stall was Keith Urban again, and

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Speaker 1: so I waited for him. I invented the long hand wash.

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Speaker 1: I just stood there and he came up, and I, uh,

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Speaker 1: cool and so humble. He said, mate, what a song.

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Speaker 1: If I had just heard that before anyone else, I

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Speaker 1: would have done it. And I said, God, that's just crazy,

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Speaker 1: because you know, I sent it to your record company

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Speaker 1: and your manager. So he said, um, what, you take

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Speaker 1: my phone number? He put his number into my phone.

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Speaker 1: If you can believe that. I texted him at like

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Speaker 1: seven in the morning the next day, which was not good.

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Speaker 1: I didn't answer me back, but we became friends. He

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Speaker 1: eventually called once again Keith Urban. He said, these are

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Speaker 1: the guitar chords, this is the drumbeat I want, and

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Speaker 1: I wanted to be a song about looking back at

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Speaker 1: a relationship. He was like an architect with a blueprint

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Speaker 1: of the song, and he couldn't have been nicer or

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Speaker 1: more talented. So I was so glad to write with him.

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Speaker 1: I agree about Blake Shelton, which Mike we did back

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Speaker 1: in our parody days. We did a parody of this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh that's flatter, that's great. Oh that's what it was, tortilla.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, go ahead back then, no big And

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Speaker 1: when we're all through a couple more days, real quick,

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Speaker 1: here is Different for Girls by Dirks and l right,

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Speaker 1: oh k yeah, who's just And here is Beers and

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Speaker 1: Sunshine by Darius. And so now that we've heard your

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Speaker 1: expert at work, now it's not enough for you. Flip

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Speaker 1: over the Craig Wiseman, Bobcast people. Come on, I'm doing

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Speaker 1: my best here. And you know, you come in and

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Speaker 1: you have a book. I always like to lay out

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Speaker 1: what would make you an expert and why people would

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Speaker 1: want to read what you have to say, and so,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get onto some more of your list stuff

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Speaker 1: in a minute, but party like a rock star. The book,

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Speaker 1: What's why did you decide you wanted to write a book?

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Speaker 1: And what do you think people are gonna get from it?

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Speaker 1: Great question. So I played a show here at the

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Speaker 1: never heard her before. Her name is Dana Perino. Some

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Speaker 1: It's not only the stories behind all these hits, which

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Speaker 1: and I made my first uh and I used clothing story,

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Speaker 1: made my first demo with money. I won on VH

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Speaker 1: one Rock and Roll Jeopardy. I'm glad you weren't on it.

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Speaker 1: You probably would have beat me. Went on Rock and

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Speaker 1: Roll Jeopardy. Yes, oh, Bobby, I annihilated the competition. You know,

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Speaker 1: from that eventually went on does Survivor? Yeah, Jeff, did

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Speaker 1: good trivia of it. And I wanted to say that,

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Speaker 1: and why I just said, Jeff? And then if you

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Speaker 1: and Roll Jeopardy? Was it one episode? Did you stay up?

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Speaker 1: And it's just one episode? I won. I didn't get

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Speaker 1: the final Jeopardy, but I remember it like it was

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Speaker 1: Ding Ding ding Ding. The category is female singers. She

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Speaker 1: Then there we go, Mike with the sound and you

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Speaker 1: didn't say number one, but again on the pop chart,

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Speaker 1: a top ten song, pretty ubiquit s whenever she's everywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a British solo female. I know her? What I know her? Oh? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: you're listening to hit writer J T. Harding on the

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Speaker 1: Bobcast with Bobby. But does still hold music? Doesn't it?

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Speaker 1: my goodness, rule, I know. That's what an idiot. I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to trick you. They tricked me to. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: roommate worked to FedEx, so I borrowed the FedEx jacket. Mean,

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Speaker 1: this is like some of the stunts you pulled right

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Speaker 1: and like Obi wan Kenobi, just sauntering into the death Star.

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Speaker 1: I walked into every record company with the FedEx jacket,

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Speaker 1: I passed my CD out to everyone. Every celebrity came

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Speaker 1: McDonald's on Broadway has been broken. What do you mean

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Speaker 1: they never called you again? They invented ghosting. I never

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Speaker 1: heard from him that the record was shelved. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: you mind if I continue? I was worn out. I'd

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Speaker 1: been in l A for five years chasing my dream.

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Speaker 1: a job working for the Superstar band Lincoln Park. This

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Speaker 1: One night, I'll never forget it. In Kansas City, sold out,

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Speaker 1: their autograph sessions. They were very low maintenance and they

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Speaker 1: they said you want to open up for us? I said,

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Speaker 1: you bet, you I do. I mean it was like

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Speaker 1: it was like a like a like a bachelor walking

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Speaker 1: opening band was Slipknot and then Lincoln Park. I went

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Speaker 1: to stand on stage and like Bobby has, in front

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Speaker 1: you and hearing every one of them go you suck,

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Speaker 1: you suck. It gives you a chill, doesn't it. They

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Speaker 1: were booing so loud you couldn't even hear anything, but

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Park It asked me to stay out there, so

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Speaker 1: They're brewing. Does anyone out here like Ozzy Osbourne. And

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Speaker 1: I said, well, here's some Joan Osborne. What if God

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Speaker 1: was anything not tied down was thrown at me, bottles, lighters, coins.

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Speaker 1: but the only thing that hurt me was up near

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00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 1: this crease of the army. But that's like, I'm like

427
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,920
Speaker 1: a second grader being like, look at my boo boo,

428
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 1: and you're like a college graduate like that's nothing, kid, No,

429
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 1: no it. I complain like the whole time. But yeah,

430
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,160
Speaker 1: my mom used to be kind of like, please don't.

431
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 1: But I mean the other day she's like, when did

432
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,119
Speaker 1: you get that clover on your hand? I was like,

433
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 1: oh cod, She's like that's really cute. I'm just like,

434
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 1: what is happening? It does in a way, not that

435
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,719
Speaker 1: you need it, but especially whenever you're being introduced, it

436
00:20:53,760 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 1: does legitimize you as like I'm an artist, Like, regardless

437
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,239
Speaker 1: of of how you feel about me or if you

438
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 1: like my music, like, I'm an artist. I'm not a

439
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 1: prepared little pr singer like you are a legitimate artist.

440
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 1: Before you even hear you sing, because visually you go, well,

441
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 1: this girl is enough round Yeah at number eight is brilliant.

442
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 1: He is a guy who came in and immediately you

443
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 1: know he means business. I think one of the smartest

444
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 1: guys we've had on the podcast date. This is one

445
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: Bobby really had to focus in on because Brian was

446
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: coming with it at all angles. He is a great

447
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 1: new artist if you haven't checked out his music yet,

448
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: but here is Brilan talking about the person who told

449
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 1: him he would never have a career as a solo

450
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 1: artist and what his mission statement is in country music.

451
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 1: Breland at number nine and you want to go back

452
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: and hear this full episode, it's episode number three D

453
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 1: and forty five. Growing up with parents that performed, did

454
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: they want you to stay away from performance because they

455
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: had really spent a lot of time seeing that it's

456
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: not as glamorous as it seems. Yeah, I mean they

457
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 1: both they tried when I was a kid to do

458
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: music professionally, and they put together a couple of projects

459
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 1: that uh, you know, didn't really make the waves that

460
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 1: they thought it would. And I watched them struggle to

461
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: get these albums and songs in the Christian world, uh,

462
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, and just didn't really materialize. And I also think,

463
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 1: you know, having kids, they had to prioritize the jobs

464
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 1: that we're paying them. Uh So, I don't know if

465
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: they were ever like, don't do it, but they were

466
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: also like, get get an education and make sure that

467
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: you can learn other skills that can be applied different

468
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: places if it doesn't work out, you know. But um,

469
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if they discouraged me from from pursuing

470
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: it so much as be cautious and and understand that

471
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: it's a small percentage of people that do it. And

472
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: if you're going to do it, it's going to be

473
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 1: because you were supposed to do it and so talented.

474
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: You're only gonna make it if you're so it's all

475
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: about the talent. Bro's talent, zero percent anything else. Baby.

476
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: So you go to college, did you graduate? I did

477
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: nice you? When you moved to Atlanta, did you have

478
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: anyone there that said, hey, come on, I'll kind of

479
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: lead you through this town. Yes? Yes, Um. You know.

480
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: The true story behind that is that I was working

481
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 1: under a producer that was very adamant about me only

482
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,719
Speaker 1: being a songwriter. And I say that because when I

483
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: first met him, I was I was like, I'm a

484
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: songwriter artist, and he was like, you're not an artist.

485
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: You don't have what it takes to be an artist.

486
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 1: You're just a songwriter. And over time I realized that

487
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: he really just wanted to be able to control what

488
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: it was that I was doing, and if I was

489
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: able to tap into my artistry, it would become something

490
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 1: that he couldn't control as easily. Uh. And so someone

491
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: only said you're not Yeah, said you're not an artist.

492
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 1: You don't have it. He said you don't have it. Yes,

493
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: he said you don't have it. And and this is

494
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: someone in Atlanta who you know, has won a few Grammys,

495
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: he's had number one's, he's had success over a long

496
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: amount of time. So I trusted his judgment. Do you

497
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: believe he believed you didn't have it? No, I do

498
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: not believe that he believed I didn't have it, because

499
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: as soon as it happened, he was like switched up quick,

500
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: like I always knew you had it, Like you didn't

501
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: say that. He definitely didn't say that. So, uh, you know,

502
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: I guess just kind of being in Atlanta also put

503
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: me onto different types of personalities that exists in the

504
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: music industry. There are people that want to help you genuinely,

505
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 1: and then there are people that want to take advantage

506
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: of you, And if you're not discerning, you could mistake

507
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 1: one for the other. And so I thought, this is

508
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: someone that prides himself publicly on mentorship, uh and and

509
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: having apprentices and people being able to go on and

510
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: have successful careers out eyed of him. But he was

511
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: actively doing the opposite in my relationship with him, and

512
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: so I thought he was trying to help me. As

513
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 1: it turned out, it was more of a predatory business relationship.

514
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: So how do you see that and what do you

515
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 1: do once it sets in that this is not something

516
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: that's healthy? Yeah, when you I mean, I think in

517
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 1: any situation, once you discover that that person doesn't have

518
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: your best interests like something, there had to be something.

519
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: There was a couple. It was a couple of things,

520
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: like you know, specific how you find it A couple,

521
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: a couple of things, you know. I I first brought

522
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: my truck in and was like, hey, this is a

523
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: song that I wrote as a demo and I would

524
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: like to put it out and he was like, I

525
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 1: hate it. It sucks like you gotta go back to

526
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: doing what you were doing before I told you already

527
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: you're not an artist, and I was like, I just

528
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: didn't sit right with me, you know. That was that

529
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: was a red flag because I had already posted a

530
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: snippet on Instagram and people loved it, you know. I

531
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: was like, I think people liked this song, you know,

532
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: and so I put it out anyway. A couple months later,

533
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: it starts to go viral on TikTok, and he was

534
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: the first one to be like, those numbers don't mean anything,

535
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, and I'm like, even with data. He

536
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: was even with the data. So I was like, bro, like,

537
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: you're literally not You're not acknowledging a thing that I've done.

538
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: And if you can't champion my success outside of you,

539
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: then you aren't championing me at all. Uh. And and

540
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: being able to recognize some of those red flags of

541
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: of things that I had even maybe overlooked or ignored

542
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: over the past few years before that ultimately is part

543
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,719
Speaker 1: of what brought me to Nashville, as I was like,

544
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: I would like a fresh start. I'm an artist. I

545
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: want to be around people that can respect me as

546
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 1: an artist. And when you talk at the beginning of

547
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: this conversation about you know, being able to garner that respect.

548
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: That's that's what I came here for. I came here

549
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: to be able to pursue this thing and have the

550
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: support in the city and among my peers of feeling

551
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: like I can actually do this. I guess the last

552
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: question I'll ask about your time in Atlantic, why if

553
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 1: someone believed that you could provide something, did they not

554
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: scoop it up themselves? Meaning if if I were a

555
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: producer owned a record label, I don't know what the

556
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: guy was. Um, I don't know there was a guy.

557
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: He was a guy, Okay, why would he not if

558
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: he believed in you, go ahead like to sign you myself,

559
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: Like I believe in you. Why don't we do a development?

560
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: So he did have that without investment into it. It

561
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: comes down to it. It comes down to mindset and

562
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,239
Speaker 1: also just how good of a business person are you?

563
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: He fumbled the bag, to be told, But also in

564
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 1: a lot of ways it comes down to mindset. So, uh,

565
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: you can operate in life with a scarcity mindset, or

566
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: you can operate from an abundance mindset. When you operate

567
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: from a scarcity mindset, you make decisions like the types

568
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 1: of decisions that he made, which is like you operate

569
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: very selfishly. Uh, And when you operate from an abundance mindset,

570
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, there's there are a lot of resources

571
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: here for everyone to be able to win. And then

572
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: you provide opportunities for people for them to be able

573
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: to get their own. So if you're creating opportunities for

574
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: people and and genuinely want to see them succeed, then

575
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's a different type of perspective than the

576
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: people who are like, no, everything has to come back

577
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: to me. So I think ultimately it was just a

578
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,239
Speaker 1: difference in mindset. And I also think, you know, at

579
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: least in my situation, I'm sure you have these two.

580
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: It helps if you also have a mission statement. So

581
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: for me, my mission statement right now as an artist

582
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: is that I want to help make country music more inclusive.

583
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: I want to inspire people who don't listen to country

584
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 1: music and write it off as a thing that's not

585
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: for them. I want to inspire them to to be

586
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: a part of it and be a part of the community.

587
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: Because I think the more diverse country music is, the

588
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: more country music can interact and and and collaborate across

589
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: the aisle with other genres. The better that is for culture.

590
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: And so the style of country music that I make,

591
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: it's not tradition and all, but I would argue that

592
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,239
Speaker 1: it is still within the format. And why I do

593
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: it the way that I'm doing it is because I'm

594
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: trying to reach across the aisle and and make a

595
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: space that is more reflective of what the world looks like.

596
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: That's a long miss to statement. Write that down. It's seconds.

597
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: That's a long one's let me let me Yeah, I

598
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: am trying to make country music for everyone. Yeah, it's

599
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: easier to remember. Yeah, that's that. Yeah, that's a good one.

600
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: I know you've experienced. That's far greater than what I did.

601
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: But I'll give you an example. When I moved to town,

602
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: I was the guy. Now. It didn't matter that I

603
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: grew up in a rural town in Arkansas and my

604
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: life was all country music until I was a teenager.

605
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: But since I worked on hip hop stations and pop

606
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: stations and did sports talk and I wasn't country, and

607
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: I fought it so for my life was miserable for

608
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: two and a half three years because everywhere I went,

609
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't country. Now. When I was pop, I was

610
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: too country right because I didn't fit because I had

611
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: an accent. And so that is what I dealt with

612
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: for a while here. And by your last statement, when

613
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: you talk about having a more inclusive country music that

614
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: comes from a place of experience, it sounds like and

615
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: so I'm assuming that you're getting that now to where

616
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: you're not country people are saying yeah, people definitely will

617
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: say that I'm not country. Also, it's funny when you

618
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: when you look up Breland on Google, at least for

619
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: a while, people are like, is Breland a country? Like

620
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: country Land like Iceland or Greenland or something? Um, But no,

621
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I've never tried to authenticate or validate how

622
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: country I am, because the truth is I'm from New Jersey,

623
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: from a small town in New Jersey. But at the

624
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: end of the day, I think that the version of

625
00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: country music that really resonates with me isn't locations pacific

626
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: so much as it is are you telling a true

627
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: story to your experience or to someone's experience, And if

628
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: you can express that thought in a way that is

629
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: both linear and heartfelt, there's country roots in it. And

630
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: to me, that's The thing that I'm trying to get

631
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: at more in the music that I'm writing, in the

632
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: music that I'm releasing, is let me let me tell stories.

633
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: Let me tell my story, and let me tell stories

634
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: that resonate with people, whether or not it's you know,

635
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: specifically rural or southern or you know, fits checks any

636
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: of those boxes. It's like, can you can you tell

637
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: a story? And and is that story real for someone

638
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: or yourself? The answer to that is yes, then is

639
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: country to me? At number seven is when I knew

640
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 1: once I looked it it was going to be one

641
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: of our most downloaded episodes of the year, and it

642
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: easily was. And it was just a really great on

643
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: his conversation. And this is from episode three fifty six

644
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: with Tyler Hubbard of Florida Georgia Line. He came on

645
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: and talked about the crazy gift he got from Garth

646
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: Brooks and what led to Florida Georgia Line breaking up.

647
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: So at number seven, here's Tyler Hubbard. All right, Tyler

648
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: Hubbard is here. Hey, something I was gonna ask us

649
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: Talking to al Dean, I said, hey, Jason just said

650
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: Garth gave him this role. Like I said, so what's

651
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: the story And he said, well, I hopped on the

652
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: Garth like maybe like a tribute album or a duet

653
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: album or something. Oh yeah, and he said Garth showed up,

654
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: he goes, but heck he showed up to the FDL

655
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: guys house with free jeeps. Yeah, well the jeep and

656
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,479
Speaker 1: a motor He gave me a motorcycle and gave kje

657
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: So what happens to how Jason made it sounds like

658
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: he's like the Easter Bunny and he just shows up

659
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: and he's got stuff just like the Easter Bunny and

660
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: he was coming or anything. Nope, big Cana. We're on

661
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: music row in our building in the middle of a

662
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: right and uh, our manager at the time walking in

663
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: and said, hey, Garth Brooks just randomly showed up and

664
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: wants to see you guys. He's actually out on the

665
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: street and uh, he's got like a trailer behind his truck.

666
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: So we went out there and saw him and hey, Garth,

667
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: how are you a holy cow good? And he was like, well,

668
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: you know, thank you for being on this project with me.

669
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: I think at the time it wasn't supposed to come

670
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: out or he was bummed because it wasn't so he

671
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: felt bad or something. He was also thankful. He was like,

672
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: thank you for you know, doing this with me. I

673
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: actually got you a G B K and Tyler, I

674
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: hear you like motorcycles, so I got you a little something.

675
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: It's awesome Indian motorcycle. And then he just closes up

676
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: the trailer. He was by himself, drove his truck, uh,

677
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: parked it right in the middle of music row, unloaded

678
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: the toys, and then closed his trailer up and drove

679
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: off and hit a hit a sign on the way off.

680
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: Was the best part of the whole thing. But anyway,

681
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: when you guys were lined out of a cannon, more

682
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: so than almost anybody that I've seen in my ten

683
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: years here, um that seemed from the outside didn't like

684
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: it came quick like that success and all of a sudden,

685
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're you're rich, and it's just

686
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: like what's happened? Yeah, I mean I can totally relate

687
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: to that. I tell the story occasionally. I might have

688
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: told you this story, but I'll never forget one of

689
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 1: the pivotal moments that I'll never forget. I'll tell my kids.

690
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: But I remember being over in berry Hill recording our

691
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: first album, and we were literally working on Cruise UM,

692
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: which you know who did on at the time that

693
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: that song was gonna do what it did UM. And

694
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,479
Speaker 1: I was coming back from lunch and I was sitting

695
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: in the parking lot literally checking my bank account and

696
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: I had twelve dollars left in my bank account, which

697
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: was you know, and at the time, you know, I

698
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't have a resource to go to other

699
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: than what where is the next car I'm gonna watch,

700
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, And so for me, I knew the next day,

701
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: I can't go to the studio because I gotta go

702
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: work because I'm I'm down to pretty much one bill left.

703
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 1: And so and that was in two thousand and eleven,

704
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: I mean, that was right before it all took off,

705
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: and that's kind of the that's all I sort of

706
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: knew for you know, college was like that obviously, and

707
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,479
Speaker 1: it's kind of like that for a lot of people.

708
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: And then that that was three years out of college.

709
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: So I'm you know, I'm sitting there with a degree

710
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: and and just grinding and trying to figure it out

711
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: and really just trying to not get a real job

712
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: so that I can or continue to be self employed,

713
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: I should say, so that I can pursue songwriting, you know,

714
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: because that was the ultimate goal. But yeah, I mean

715
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: to think from that year, I mean a year after that,

716
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: I mean the stress level went way down and the

717
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: money was coming in and it was like, oh man,

718
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: the patients and the and the uh and the ground

719
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: was starting to pay off. And when did you start

720
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: to feel like you were good enough, not to be great,

721
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: but good enough to be good enough to pay the bills. Well,

722
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: we started, I would say senior year. Um, I ran

723
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: into b K. And at that time I was starting

724
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: to play like writers rounds and stuff. I was starting

725
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: to get enough courage to like get out, and I

726
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: had written a handful of songs that I was proud

727
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: enough to play that I met b K and we

728
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: started doing our thing together and writing songs and playing

729
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: writers rounds together. Scott Belmont, Yeah, he played baseball and

730
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: uh so we kind of connected dots and realize that

731
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: we both liked writing songs. On the side, we both

732
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: let's get together and hang and see where it goes.

733
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: And so we started playing like hotel and to go

734
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: together quite a bit um as a unit or just Tyler,

735
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: And at first it was just me and b K.

736
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: And then like we would get another writer or two,

737
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: we just do like a round. And then eventually as

738
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: we wrote more songs together, we had enough to be like, hey,

739
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: let's just me and you do the round. I'll sing

740
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: some of yours, you sing some of mine. Will sing

741
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: the ones we did together, and then and then eventually

742
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: we ended up like why don't we pull the stools

743
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: away and stand up? And then turn into like did

744
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: you have a different name? Did you name it different things? No?

745
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: We we we landed on Florida Georgia line pretty quick. Um.

746
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: But that was when it was one night after a

747
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: hotel end Togo writers around where we were hanging out

748
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 1: drinking with some friends at the house and somebody said, hey,

749
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: you guys should start ap. You guys should make a

750
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: name and start a thing, you know, and that's what Well,

751
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: what would it be? Well, let's you know, let's have

752
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: something that represents who we are and where we're from.

753
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: And that was about That was about as simple as

754
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: it was, and it stuck. So what does indefinite what's

755
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: the term you guys use indefinite hiatus? What's what was it?

756
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: For yeah, because I'm sure and official, my official than

757
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: was we're not breaking up, we're just taking a break.

758
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, for me, I mean I told b K,

759
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: you know, let's we're gonna give this a hundred percent

760
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: and we're gonna both build something great and then we

761
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: can reassess five ten years down the road. We can,

762
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: but I'm not talking. Yeah, but for me, this is

763
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: the thing that I'm gonna be doing for for a while.

764
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: You get a million bucks to play a wedding together?

765
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: Probably not? Probably not right now? You guys get along

766
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: right now? Yeah? Completely? I mean, yeah, we don't hang

767
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: out on the weekends becase my bro and I love

768
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: him and we've you know, created a lot of life together,

769
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: and when we get back together and play shows, it's

770
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: it's a good time for sure. A lot of people,

771
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: and you probably heard it yourself say those guys do

772
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: not like each other, that's why they split up, or

773
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 1: or it was political, you know, I'm sure you've heard

774
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: that too. And if I don't ask this, people gonna

775
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: kill me online. As I'm glad you are. Was it

776
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: a political division that caused you guys to go, we

777
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: can't do this as a unit anymore. I'm so glad

778
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: you asked, because nobody does ask. And the problem is,

779
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: at the time, we didn't want to talk about what

780
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: was going on internally, or I should take that back.

781
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: B K did not want to talk about what was

782
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: going on. I wanted to talk about the shifts that

783
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 1: were happening, the decisions that were being made, the conversations

784
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: that we're being had. I really wanted to sorry in

785
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: the band, within the band, but I also wanted to

786
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: respect be Kay's desire not to talk about it, and

787
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: so I didn't feel like it was my place to

788
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: tell his story with his decision and his you know everything,

789
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: that he's the one that initiated this whole solo thing

790
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: in the first place, So I didn't feel like it

791
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 1: was my job or my responsibility, and so basically nothing

792
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: got said. So it created confusion in which everyone started

793
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: creating their own narrative at that point to have something

794
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: to try to understand why in the world would these

795
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: guys not be you know, why would they want to

796
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: go do their own thing? And so at the time,

797
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: it was in the middle of the big political it

798
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: was actually literally around the same time that the election happened,

799
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: and all that, and so that was kind of people

800
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: just said, well, it's political, you know, but ultimately, no,

801
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: it was never political. Me and b K don't. We

802
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: definitely don't see out on every single thing, but we

803
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: don't have any animosity about it, you know what I mean.

804
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: We totally agree to disagree on certain things. We talked

805
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: about it. We've never had any beef over any kind

806
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: of politics. Did you hear that? People were going, you

807
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: guys are fighting? Oh? I would see it all the time.

808
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: I still do, because people say why are they breaking up?

809
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: And then someone else will say, oh, it's political, and

810
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, which kind of bothers me. I'm just side

811
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: of decided like not to let it bother me. But

812
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, because they gotta they gotta blame it on

813
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: something other than they can't just say, oh, the guys

814
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: really just want to have some individuality and do something different.

815
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: They've been doing this for ten years like so so yeah,

816
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: I mean, we can blame it on that if we

817
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: want to, But ultimately it does bum me out because

818
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, that's not the narrative, that's not the story.

819
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: Because you're going down on the Keith tour, So where

820
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: are you playing? Is it ingrid you Keith? And then

821
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: how long as the main support? How long do you

822
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: get a set? There? Sixty minutes set, you get an hour. Wow,

823
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: that's jumping right in the deep end. So when you geez,

824
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: that's awesome because you have to you have to get

825
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: it quick. Yeah, exactly. That's why I say, after this

826
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: fallt tour, like I'll be ready. So when you play

827
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: your sixty minutes set and they're like, here's Tyler Hubbard.

828
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: Obviously I was talking to Ronnie Done about it because he,

829
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: you know, he's like, he's like, I gotta I'm gonna

830
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: go and play some shows from my solo now. And

831
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: he's like, but I'll always play some of the Brooks

832
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: and John's always he's it doesn't matter like people know

833
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: me from that. I gotta stay true to that even

834
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: though I'm gonna do this new project. So what is

835
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: your goal there? Because regardless of let's have twenty number

836
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: one in a row, you're still part of Florida Georgia

837
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: line how you were introduced to folks. So is your

838
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: dream to not play those songs solo? No, No, It'll

839
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: all be kind of depending on the amount of time

840
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: that I have, but I definitely want to have a

841
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: moment in the show that will probably be rooted in

842
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: my songwriting, you know, and I'll get to play some

843
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: we can call them covers now, but songs that I've written,

844
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: whether it's an Aldane song or um, you know, any

845
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: of the songs I've written or f g L songs

846
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: I want in my show. I wanted to tell my

847
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: story and that's a big part of my story, so

848
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: you know, and and being a part of writing those songs,

849
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: and so I think it'll be fun to, you know,

850
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: within the context of telling my story, going to play

851
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: a few FGL songs. But ultimately, I don't know if

852
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: the key set is gonna allow it. Because we were

853
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: having rehearsal last week and we were kind of working

854
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 1: through it and we're like, man, you know, we've we've

855
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: worked up like thirteen of the new songs, and it's

856
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: it's like really hard to not want to play those

857
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: new ones. And so I'm not exactly sure what we're

858
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: gonna do yet, whether whether or not we're gonna play

859
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: you know, some covers in the sixty minutes said or

860
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: wait and do that you know next year. But at

861
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 1: number six from episode three fifty seven is Bailey's Immerman,

862
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: and this is when we really had no idea what

863
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: to expect when he came into the studio. He is

864
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: such a new artist, and this is one of the

865
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: first interviews that he's ever done in his career that

866
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: he was very ron honest, and we both found that

867
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: very refreshing. And he just has an incredible story of

868
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: how he really fell into music by accident and is

869
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 1: now crushing it on streaming numbers, just had his first

870
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: number one of his career, so it's been a really

871
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: big year for Bailey's Immerman. So here he is talking

872
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: about how he got started in music all by accident.

873
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: What are you attributing because obviously you have a big

874
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: social media presence, but um, what I read though was

875
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: you didn't start off to the music on any sort

876
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: of social media, like even TikTok. You were just showing

877
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 1: off truck trucks. Yeah, so let's go back then, before

878
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: music you said I'm gonna get on and did you

879
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: plan to just do it for like your small circle

880
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: or did you go I got some real I think

881
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: truck people will follow me. I'm going to create a

882
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: brand here. So I started. There's this girl in my

883
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: hometown as Walmart, and she was to cash here and

884
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: she was like I was flirting with her, and I

885
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna catch you on TikTok because I

886
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: posted one video and it did just a you know,

887
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: a couple of thousand, and she was like, you'll never

888
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: hit ten thousand followers on TikTok. So I just kind

889
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: of got it in me. I was like, oh, I'm

890
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: gonna do that. So I started. I built this truck.

891
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: I started just filming it and stuff and putting sounds

892
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: behind it, and then ended up getting a lot of traction.

893
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: And then I got hooked on truck shows, so then

894
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: I started taking I took it from just like building

895
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: tracks and posting. It's like, oh, I think I'm gonna

896
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: start going to these shows and maybe get some, you know,

897
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: try to win trophies. And I got hooked on that

898
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen and then just kept doing my

899
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: truck stuff. And then one day I had never sang before,

900
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: and I was wanting to get out of the pipeline

901
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: industry just because of not seeing family and being gone

902
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: so much. And so I was like, Okay, I'm gonna

903
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: start building trucks. That's a profession. And not only am

904
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: I gonna post him, but I'm gonna build other people's trucks.

905
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 1: So me and my brother John started doing that, and

906
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: like three days into business, I tried singing just in

907
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: the shop in the student named Gavin Lucas from the

908
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: same town I'm in was like, hey, man, I think

909
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: you've got a cool voice, and I write songs. I

910
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: can play guitar. Would you ever just want to hang sometime?

911
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, man, I'll hang some time.

912
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: I've never really watched anybody play guitar and sing at

913
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: the same time. That's how it started. That's how the

914
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: start the wholes thing started. Yeah, dear god, I've never

915
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: heard of it. More random cooler oops, but awesome story.

916
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: It was very random. We we like jammed like three times,

917
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: and I was just so in awe of him playing

918
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: guitar and sing at the same time. He's like writing,

919
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: this guy can write songs. So one night we were

920
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: hanging and he said, hey, man, tonight we should try

921
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: to like really write a song and see if we

922
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: can write songs. So that was my first single, never

923
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: coming home. That night we wrote the first verse and

924
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: mine just like a weekend hanging with Gavin, and we

925
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: wrote the first verse and then posted it on TikTok

926
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: that night at like two am, and I woke up

927
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: and I like kids, you know. I woke up had

928
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: almost two million views, a crazy amount of comments. I

929
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: called my union that I was in, that I pipelined

930
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: with quit after one video in the next morning. Yeah,

931
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: and you're already looking to get out, but listen when

932
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: there's not our paycheck coming. Yeah. Yeah. We were laid

933
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: off at the time and got it. I just felt like, man,

934
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna chase something, this is definitely something to chase.

935
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: You know, you might as well try it. But what's

936
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: funny is you're like, I'm if I'm gonna chase something,

937
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: I guess it is this thing that just randomly popped

938
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: up a couple days ago. That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, well man,

939
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: have you did? You never sing? As a kid. My

940
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: mom would always like tell me in the truck, like, oh,

941
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 1: you should sing. I used to be able to sing

942
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: before I started smoking cigarettes. I used be able to

943
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: sing and stuff, and I just always blew it off

944
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: because that's my mom, you know. So I always just

945
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: blew it off. And then over my life, I've had

946
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: like three people tell me, man, I think you could sing,

947
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: but but did you ever sing where people could actually hear?

948
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: You know? It all started like two years from now

949
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: or two years back from now. I like sang one day,

950
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: and then after that I had like three people tell me.

951
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: And then just random, like a random place. I think

952
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: it was up at the courts um in Flora, Illinois,

953
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: like the basketball court. Yeah. So we mean you're just

954
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: like just right here me and you, and you're like

955
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: you are my sunshine. You think Luke Luke Combs Hurricane.

956
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: This kid named Trey Judy was just jamming on the

957
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: guitar and I was real bored, and you always just

958
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: went up to the basketball courts to hang out and

959
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: he was like jamming only I was like, I'll try

960
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: to sing, And then I tried, and then I tried again,

961
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: and then that video I like, I was like, you

962
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: know what, I'm just gonna try it, Like what could

963
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: it hurt if I tried singing? That's crazy. You're like

964
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: a kid who's walking by a ball field and you're like, man,

965
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 1: there's a ball land down there. Let me just grab

966
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 1: you have a glove one over there? Am I supposed

967
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: to throw it to you? Yeah? Two mile fastball. You're

968
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: like wow, So if I'm rewinding before the music stuff,

969
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm so interested in your passion of car

970
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: trucks building when you because when you said to me,

971
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: when I got some money, I built the truck. I

972
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: figured it was when you got some money from either

973
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: stuff in social media, signing a deal, but it was

974
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: when you got some money. We saved up money from

975
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: like working a real job. So when I got some money,

976
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: I built my big truck, the one truck. I had

977
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: no money, dude. Two years ago, I couldn't like afford

978
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: my truck payment. I had no money. I was living

979
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: my mom, which I love my mom, but I was

980
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: like twenty almost twenty one living my mom and I'm like, man,

981
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: what am I gonna do with my life? And pipeline

982
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: is not working out? So I had no money. So

983
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: I just budget built this truck. It was like it

984
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: was like painted. It wasn't that truck you're talking about.

985
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: That's the budget truck you built. This is a truck

986
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: you built. When you're like, Okay, I have some money

987
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: for being creative. Yeah, that's I thought, Man, if what

988
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: if I just build the biggest truck, the biggest half

989
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: ton truck in America. What if I just build it

990
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: and then I try to brand me because my music

991
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: isn't very party. It's like super sad and feelings and like,

992
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm feeling. So I thought, man, but

993
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: I do want people that I can't know that I

994
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: have a good time too, So yeah, I'm not always

995
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: just a sad, really depressed dude to my house. You know,

996
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: I do have fun. And so I thought, man, I'll

997
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: build this huge truck and take it to truck shows,

998
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: and maybe I can get my my fans to come

999
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 1: to these shows and see me that way as well.

1000
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. I'm kind of in awe of this story.

1001
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: And I've heard all the stories, I've never heard one

1002
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: quite like this. This is really cool. And you're you're young.

1003
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: That's crazy. So you live with your mom at twenty,

1004
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: you have no aspiration to be a performer. Yeah, no,

1005
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: it's not that you didn't want to. You just don't

1006
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: even know that. What is the thing? Okay, so you go,

1007
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: you gotta graduate high school? Yep, you graduated high school.

1008
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: You finish high school? What kind of student are you?

1009
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: It's terrible, hated school, A failed math. I failed. There's

1010
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 1: a lot of Yeah, if you're talking, I'm not gonna

1011
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 1: be like I can't believe. Yeah that sucks. Yeah. So okay,

1012
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: you graduated high school. And does your truck fascination just

1013
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: generally come from your dad? You think it comes from

1014
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: a dude in my town named Wade Pray, Sir. I

1015
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: saw his huge truck when I was uh thirteen, twelve

1016
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: thirteen going to school every day. Man, one day, if

1017
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: I can make some money and be able to build that,

1018
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: I would do that. So that's what I think, that's

1019
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 1: where it all comes from. You had the truck driver,

1020
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: was a truck driver. Yeah, he hauled cars and stuff.

1021
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: So did you learn about trucks and actually the functionality

1022
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: of them and how they work and how to fix

1023
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: it from your dad at all? Yeah? Working on motors.

1024
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: So it all started really with just like anything with

1025
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: the motor. I loved going fast, So I raced a

1026
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: lot of outdoor motocross um, you know, from like fourteen

1027
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: to nineteen and twenty. And Dad and John always built

1028
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: race cars and dirt cars and trucks. Whatever they could build,

1029
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: if they could like work on a thing in your yard,

1030
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: something was being worked on our built. There was Chassiss

1031
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: and motors. So that's that's the early fascination to me,

1032
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: even if you don't know you're fascinating. You're learning sometimes

1033
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: just because you're around it, your dad's around it. But

1034
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: then you go next level and you see somebody with

1035
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: a freaking awesome truck and you're like, I know how

1036
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: to do this, but that's what I want. That's that's

1037
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: so did you ever think about racing? Like with that?

1038
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,479
Speaker 1: That is being a career? Um, I wanted to so bad,

1039
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: I really did. I love, you know, racing outdoors, and

1040
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: I always did love it, but kind of the same thing.

1041
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: And that's even a harder just industry to get into.

1042
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: You gotta be a top five contender to even make

1043
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: a living. I hear you saying that, honest to god,

1044
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: I do. I I respect that. But what you're doing

1045
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: right now is just as weird and odd and hard

1046
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: and and lightning in a bottle and all. So when

1047
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: you're like, man, I don't know about what do you do?

1048
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: You can do anything. Apparently you're nailing it. You can

1049
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: be a astronaut. Just go do it. Yeah, Hey, I

1050
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: tell people that for the last two years, I truly

1051
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: believe a person can do anything and they ever want

1052
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: to do, and they're like, there's nothing is impossible. You

1053
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: can do anything. I just wasn't very fast on it

1054
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: her bike. Is it still weird to you? What's happening

1055
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: to you right now? Every day? Every day I wake

1056
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: up and I'd call my mom and I'm like, hey,

1057
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: Bobby Bones just asked me to come be on the show.

1058
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm blown away that you're so normal. I'll be honest

1059
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: with you. I thought twenty two you're killing it right now.

1060
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: Sometimes you may not even know how much you're killing it.

1061
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: You're killing it. You're talents talking about you your style,

1062
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, this guy's on a douche because

1063
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: just the nature of this town, there's a there's a

1064
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: good amount of douche bags, because uh, creative if and

1065
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: even if I think you're doing, somebody else may not.

1066
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: But there's just enough. But there's enough to always and

1067
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: you're not. You're just a dude. It's awesome, it's so refreshing.

1068
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: You're just a dude. And so but I mean that

1069
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: in the best way of you know, what you care about,

1070
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: you know, and you understand what's just happened to you

1071
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: and how crazy it is, and you're still going full

1072
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: speed ahead at it and like you're dedicated and you're

1073
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: attacking this thing and that is really freaking cool. Yeah,

1074
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: I just you gotta think. Man, Like a year and

1075
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: a half ago, I have I know where it's. I

1076
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: know where being at the bottom is. I know how

1077
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: it feels to have nothing and feel like you just

1078
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: have literally nothing. And now that I know, you know

1079
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: and all honestly how it is to be you know,

1080
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: going towards the top or or going and doing great things.

1081
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: So every day I wake up, I thank God for

1082
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: just letting me be here. She's always just like, no

1083
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: freaking way, that's crazy, you know. And she'll like she's

1084
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: like this is just insane, and she'll like talk to

1085
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: herself like this is just crazy. You know. So Mom

1086
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: is like I love talking to her about things because

1087
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: she has no clue what's going on, as you know,

1088
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: just as much as I do. And I'll just be like, yo,

1089
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 1: i think I'm like on a private jet and she's

1090
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: like what And I'm like, yeah, like how crazy is

1091
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: that man is I just can't just like I just

1092
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: sit back and a smile and I'm just like, this

1093
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: is insane. Have you done a lot of interviews. No,

1094
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: you're one of the very first I've not. I don't

1095
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: think I've ever done an interview like this. Are you serious?

1096
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 1: I've never done anything like this. Don't change, And it's

1097
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: gonna be hard for you not to change because you

1098
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: get so jaded. And also you'll get your label people

1099
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: and they'll do a good job. For the most You're

1100
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 1: a good place. You're a good place. You're warn right,

1101
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: you're warn that's that's a good's a good group. And

1102
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: so you already know how to talk. And some people

1103
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: who are great off might come in and they aren't

1104
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: sure how to talk. But what you're doing is you're

1105
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,439
Speaker 1: talking what out there and just bring it in here

1106
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: like that's the key. They never change. That is going

1107
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 1: to do it for part one of the Top Ten

1108
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: Bobby Cast of two, come back next week and see

1109
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: what made it into the top five. And if you're

1110
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: looking for more things to listen to, I also do

1111
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Speaker 1: a podcast where I talk about movies. It's called Movie

1112
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1113
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: hear interviews with actors and directors, get spoiler free reviews

1114
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Speaker 1: and recommendations of new things coming out in theaters and streaming,

1115
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: especially right now around the holidays. Looking for something to watch?

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Speaker 1: I have all of that over there for you on

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Speaker 1: movie Mix movie podcasts. Search that wherever you get your podcast,

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Speaker 1: or find the link in the notes of this episode,

1119
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Speaker 1: and I will talk to you next week here on

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Speaker 1: the Bobby Cast.