1 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Wednesday, May twenty twenty four. Welcome to 2 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast for We Know Better than 3 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: the Best with Kendrick Lamar. 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: It's been your man named g Markus Grant. 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: Joined by Michael f Florio and Lakwan Jones and fellas 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: I know, this time of year, we get to kind 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: of have some fun, do some things sort of outside 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: the box, and to kind of help us along with that, 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: we had Bucky Brooks, who you can see on NFL 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: Network and in a million other places. Buck one, we 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: appreciate the time too. We were talking about this before 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: the show. How is it that you have the time 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: and energy to do all of the things that you 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: do well? 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: I mean, when I'm not listening to the latest disc 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 3: tracks from Kendrick andre, I find a little time to 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: squeeze in some met times. So now it's been fun, man, 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: look all things ball like, like a lot of other 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 3: things that we could be doing, but like being able 20 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: to talk about ball like. It doesn't get much better 21 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 3: than that. 22 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: Very true. 23 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, So we wanted to get you on because obviously 24 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: the draft is wrapped up, you know, mini camps and 25 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: O tas and stuff. They're gonna be starting up. They 26 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: have started up in a lot of places already, so 27 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: kind of want to get some of your thoughts on 28 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: things that have gone on so far and how you 29 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: kind of project some things. Figure, we started a quarterback 30 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: because why not? Because that was the big talk, especially 31 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: at the top of the draft. And you know, we 32 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: saw Caleb Williams go number one. You know, we saw 33 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: where Jayden Daniels and Drake Man, all these guys went. 34 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: We know that all the talk about Caleb is that 35 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: he's a guy who's ready to step in and be 36 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: maybe the guy for the Bears. But beyond that, are 37 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: there any quarterbacks in this rookie class that you think 38 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: are ready to be starters in day one? 39 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 3: I think Jayden and Daniel would be a starter from 40 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: day one. I think when you look at Jayden Daniels 41 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: going to Washington. Given Cliff Kingsbury's history, we've seen what 42 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: Cliff Kingsbury did. He turned Calum Murray into the offensive 43 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: rookie the year and Kyler Murray's first season. He's familiar 44 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: with building game plans around a player and an athlete 45 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: like this at the quarterback position, and with you know, 46 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: Jayden and Daniels the difference with him, and like Drake 47 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: May and JJ McCarthy, he enters the league with fifty 48 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: five collegiate starts. Like when everyone is looking for maybe 49 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: the secret sauce behind Brock Purdy's success. Rock Purdy played 50 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 3: almost fifty college games before he entered the league, and look, 51 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: it's not exactly the same as playing in the NFL, 52 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: but that experience matters. Those reps matter, Jayde and Daniels 53 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 3: reps first Arizona State, then at LSU will will give 54 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: him an opportunity to have success immediately in Washington. And 55 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: then when you're throw in the athletic factor, the fact 56 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: that he can run around and use his legs, that 57 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: also kind of buys you the opportunity to kind of 58 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: get on the field and get on the field right away. Yeah. 59 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 4: I mean, look, Jayde and Daniel has some nice weapons 60 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 4: around him. And we talked about Cliff Kingsbury last part, 61 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 4: and like, I'm wondering your thoughts on Luke McCaffrey have 62 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 4: like his ability to be used under a Cliff Kingsbury's system. 63 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 4: I mean, he looks like a complete weapon that you 64 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 4: can utilize all over the offense. 65 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's interesting because there's been a lot of 66 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: excitement and buzz about Luke McCaffrey, and normally you don't 67 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 3: hear that kind of buzz and excitement over a Day 68 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: three pick. But I think some of it is the 69 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: family business, you know, you think about all the McCaffrey's 70 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: and how many have had success in the National Football League. 71 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: But then also the opportunity and that offense. There's an 72 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: opportunity for him to be able to get on the 73 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 3: field and to play and have a role because you 74 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: can't stop Scary Terry and you can't stop Johan Dockson 75 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: without leaving someone in one on one coverage. And the 76 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: McCaffrey shown ability to put the ball in the pain 77 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: as a playmaker in the red zone. That offense with 78 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels, the ball can go anywhere, particularly when he 79 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: leaves the pocket. So that'll give me a chance to 80 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: look be a very impactful performer. I'm not saying hey 81 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: be pooking the cool, but he could carve out a role, 82 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: a nice role for himself as a rookie. 83 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: So I want to ask you about another quarterback. Let's 84 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 4: head down to Atlanta. Did the Falcons make the right 85 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 4: move getting Michael Pennix. 86 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: So like, look, this is just because the amount of 87 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: capital that the Atlanta Falcons use to acquire Kirk Cousins 88 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: first and then Michael Pennix. Normally, when you see these situations, 89 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: you talk about a bridge quarterback. There's a middling quarterback 90 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: that is struggling to kind of stay relevant in the league, 91 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: and then you bring in the hot shot rookie. Well, 92 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: now you have the most expensive quarterback on the free 93 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 3: agent market. The Atlanta Falcons gobble him up, and then 94 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: they come and use a top ten pick on Michael Pennix. 95 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 3: I would say the plan is solid, the execution is 96 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: faulty just because you simply don't commit those kinds of 97 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: assets to it. And the only way that they can 98 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 3: look right, and look, they really won't look right. But 99 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: winning solves everything. So if Michael Pennix jumps into the 100 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: mix and plays at a high level, when the next 101 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 3: day's like, see, look he was just so good we 102 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: couldn't pass him up. Much like Brock Purdy has allowed 103 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 3: the Niners to kind of hide from the Trey Lance thing. 104 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 3: It just comes down to performance. If Kirk Cousins or 105 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 3: Michael Pennick plays at a high level, it won't matter. 106 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: The conversation will be mute and speak of the Big six. 107 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 5: When outside of maybe Michael Pennix, do you think we 108 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 5: see these guys starting by like by week one, by 109 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 5: October or something going to sit all year? 110 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 2: When do you think we see these guys? 111 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 3: So I think the first three to start will be 112 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: Kayla Williams, Jayden Daniels and bow Knicks. Respective then I 113 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: think it's a bit of a roll of the dice 114 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: when it comes to Drake may and JJ McCarthy and 115 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 3: Michael Pennix, because J. J. McCarthy it's kind of stuck 116 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: behind the great Sam Donald and Sam Donald, like we've heard, 117 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: I think what we're seven years in where we're talking 118 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 3: about this is his year, this is his year. Here, 119 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell is going to dust off. He's finally got 120 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 3: the instructions how to play with the toy and so 121 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 3: we're going to see the best version of Sam Donald 122 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: in Minnesota. In New England, I think they want to 123 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: really have a slow cook process with Drake may Hey, 124 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: let Jacoby Brissett kind of get beat up until they 125 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: can build the offense line, until they can get the 126 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: weapons and drop Drake May in maybe week eight, week nine, 127 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 3: when he's ready. Michael Pennis, we talked about Kirk Cousins. 128 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins is gonna be the starter, the reason why 129 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: bo Nix is in that category. I just believe that 130 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 3: Sean Payton subscribes to that I told you so theory, 131 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 3: and so he wants to kind of put him in 132 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: the mix and tell everybody I told you he was 133 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: going to be good because I'm the quarterback guru. I 134 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: can make him work. And so when everyone is talking 135 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: about bow Knicks not even rating as a first round talent, 136 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: I think Sean Payton wants to show the football world no, no, no, 137 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: he's a first round talent and here's why, and this 138 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: is why we're going to win with it. 139 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: You mentioned JJ McCarthy and sam Donold there in Minnesota. 140 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like McCarthy was one of the 141 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: more polarizing prospects out there right because you know, some 142 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: guys looked at it. Some people look at him and said, well, 143 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: he was helped by all the talent around him. Some 144 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: people said, well, he's just a winner and he's smart 145 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: and he knows what to do. Where do you come 146 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: down on JJ McCarthy, Which version of the story are 147 00:06:58,880 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: you more leaning toward. 148 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: I'm more in the winner guy category. And the only 149 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: reason I'll say that is because I think JJ McCarthy 150 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: was very intentional about his college plans. You know, he 151 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: was a four or five star quarterback who could have 152 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: gone anywhere, and he decided to go to Michigan knowing 153 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 3: that Michigan was going to run the football and run 154 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: it like relentlessly with Jim Harbaugh. And so that decision 155 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: to do that speaks volumes about who he is in 156 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: terms of willing to check his ego at the door. 157 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: From a talent standpoint, he's very talented. I mean, he's 158 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: a player that can make all the throws in the pocket. 159 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: He also has the athleticism to add a dimension to 160 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: the offense. We saw him do that from time to 161 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: time in Michigan. The one thing that we don't have, 162 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: and it's not his fault, is the style of play. 163 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: We don't have many moments where he had to put 164 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: the entire offense on his back because they were always 165 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: planning front. The running game was always kind of thriving. 166 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 3: It's rare that we've had to see him in those moments. 167 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: Doesn't mean that he can't do it. We just don't 168 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: have any evidence to say, hey, he's going to be 169 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: this because he did that while he was a collegiate. 170 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: I guys, was it really an old documentary that killed 171 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler's draft stock? I mean, this is a guy 172 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: he was a Heisman candidate like a few years ago, right, 173 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you know, I mean he 174 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: loses his job to Caleb Williams, he ends up transferring. 175 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: I mean, what happened with Spencer Rattler? And does he 176 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: have the skills to be successful in the NFL. 177 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: I would say this because it's funny like watching that 178 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: kind of play out in the Twitter verse. I will 179 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: say it didn't help him. I say, anyone who watched 180 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: him on QB one, even though he was a teenager, 181 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 3: he was eighteen. He didn't come off great, you know, 182 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: and sometimes, man, though it's hard to it's hard to 183 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: forget those impressions when you're an evaluator. The other thing 184 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 3: is everyone is outraged at the NFL would consider something 185 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: that he did in high school, but that's what they 186 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: do for all prospects like Marcus and you guys might 187 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: if y'all were being drafted, your high school coach would 188 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 3: get a phone call. You know, he would get a questionnaire, 189 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 3: he would get a letter, he would get a phone call. 190 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: He might even get a visit based on what you 191 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 3: may I've been involved in in high school. That's kind 192 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 3: of part of the process as you're trying to learn 193 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 3: the player. The bigger thing that hurt Spencer Radler is. 194 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, he got beat up by Kayleb Williams quickly 195 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 6: at Oklahoma, like four or five games in, like they're 196 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 6: playing Texas. You look up, You're like, WHOA Spencer Radler 197 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 6: is supposed to be a Heisman candidate and Caleb Williams 198 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 6: is not only in the game, Kaylen Williams is leading 199 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 6: the Sooners back, so that that plays the part. And 200 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 6: then when he transferred, he went to South Carolina and 201 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 6: he didn't really light it up. 202 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 3: And when you watch his game, I don't know what 203 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 3: his superpower is, Like he doesn't have the arm talent 204 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: that Kayler Williams possesses. He doesn't run around like Jaydon Daniels. Look, 205 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: he's a solid playmaker and bo Knicks with both knicks 206 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: is a better physical specimen, so he just kind of 207 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 3: gets stuck. Maybe he can do the Brock party thing, 208 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 3: because that's why Brock perty landed in the seventh round, 209 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: because he didn't kind of pass all the pageant requirements. 210 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 3: So maybe Spencer Radler is a better player than he 211 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 3: is a prospect, just because he plays the game at 212 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 3: a higher level than he looks when he walks out 213 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: on the field. Yeah. 214 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: Just I know, he was a guy that, again, I 215 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: think early in draft season his stocks sort of dropped. 216 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: You know, there are people making a case for him 217 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: that maybe he ends up being of value. I just 218 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: you know, I was sort of I didn't really know 219 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: what to make of Spencer Rattler, but because the again 220 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: he went from being Heisman candidate to a guy that 221 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: just kind of fell off the radar with sort of 222 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: sort of kind of a head scratcher to me. Talking 223 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: about Bucky Brooks, we take a quick break, come back 224 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: with more. We dive into wide receivers and running backs 225 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: here in the NFL Fantasy Football podcast. Suck some wide receivers, 226 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: I mean, because it was the position that everybody talked 227 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: about Florio. 228 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: Any any questions you got about wide house. 229 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 5: Right now, look, Bucky, I would ask you about thirty 230 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 5: wide receivers in this class if I could, because it's 231 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 5: it's a really deep class and I liked a lot 232 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 5: of the players in it. But have we overrated the 233 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 5: depth of this class at all? Or or is the opposite? 234 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 5: Is this class going to surprise maybe with even some 235 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 5: later round breakouts. 236 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 3: I think we've overrated it because the conversation coming out was, hey, 237 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 3: this is a deep talented collection of pass catchers, and 238 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: it is, but they're different categories for how we put 239 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: the pass catches. I would say the top three were 240 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: different than everybody else. Marvin Harrison Junior, Roma Dunza, Malik Neighbors, 241 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 3: they were in a different category. The next person right 242 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: after that was Brian Thomas Junior. He was the one 243 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 3: of the group that remained that had wide receiver one potential. 244 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 3: The thing that you didn't know is, Okay, it's not 245 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 3: as polished as those other guys, but man, the talent 246 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: is there. I kind of compare him to T Higgins, 247 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 3: you know how you like T Higgins? Like T Higgins, 248 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 3: maybe he's a one. We know he's a great too, 249 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: but maybe he's a one. If Jamar Chase isn't there. 250 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 3: We just don't know. That's how Brian Thomas looked. But 251 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: then after that, I think there were a lot of 252 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: guys who are destined to be role players, and they 253 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: have to be with the right team, asked to play 254 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: in the right world role to really maximize who they are. 255 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: So when you think about the Xavier Worthies and the 256 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: lad mcconkey's and the Ricky Piersoll's and those guys, they're 257 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: really good players. Uh they could be B plus players, 258 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 3: maybe a minus players, but it may be a minus 259 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 3: player in a specific role, not the transcendent player to 260 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: a we can just drop him in any offense. He's 261 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 3: gonna have a lot of success. But no, there are 262 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 3: a lot of players that will have success. I just 263 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: don't know if they will be the lead, uh the 264 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 3: leading man in their their destinated uh soap opera. 265 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 4: So we well, you mentioned Xavier Worthy and the guy 266 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 4: of his size and his profile, like could he be 267 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 4: super productive with the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes and that offense. 268 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 4: I mean we got some little distractions going on off 269 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 4: field stuff, you know, right, So I feel like, you know. 270 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 3: Work, that's what that's what we call those things Okay, 271 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: I think Zavier Worthy is interesting. I wasn't as high 272 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 3: on Xavier Worthy as somewhere coming out of the combine, 273 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 3: But now that he's landed with Kansas City, I can 274 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 3: see Andy Reid's vision. Remember, everybody sees somebody as kind 275 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 3: of like a Yesteryear player. So for Andy Reid, this 276 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 3: is Yesteryear's Dashawn Jackson, you know, like you can see 277 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 3: him sitting at the table like, oh, It'scott d Jackie's skinny, 278 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: He's this and that, y'all team. He can but DeShawn 279 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: Jackson was able to do so if he's put in 280 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: that role, yeah, he can kill it. Now the issue 281 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: that you have is loove Man Rahi Rice was just 282 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 3: coming into his own right. You could kind of envision 283 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: how they're going to utilize him and whatever. At a minimum, 284 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: we know he's gonna be on the sideline for some suspensions, 285 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: maybe even more, and so that changes a little bit 286 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 3: of the construct of the offense because now we know 287 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey's there, But Travis Kelsey is in the twilight 288 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: of his career and he can't be the lead horse 289 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 3: the entire season. So who feels some of the production 290 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 3: that was look we was pegged to go to Rice. 291 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: I think they still have to figure out. To me, 292 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: zab Worthy's production will be as the designated big play guy, 293 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 3: the guy that some games you look up he got 294 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 3: three catches for ninety yards because he's had big passes 295 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: in those things. And then there may be a couple 296 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 3: games where he's quiet two for twelve, two for fifteen. 297 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: So to me, he's more of a kind of boom 298 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 3: or bus projection in terms of what the production is 299 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 3: going to be his first season. 300 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: That's about Molik Neighbors, because you know, he was a 301 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: guy that everybody loved, and at least for Fantasy, we 302 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: saw him go to New York go to the Giants 303 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: and we all kind of got heartbroken along a little bit. 304 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: Can he elevate Daniel Jones? 305 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: I mean, look, the targets are gonna be there because 306 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: there's not really a lot of places to go necessarily 307 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: with the football. Can he elevate Daniel Jones? Or is 308 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: you know Danny Dimes kind of is what he is? 309 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: I mean, can he sort of rise above that? 310 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: No man. 311 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 3: That is man like? That's the thing that everyone because 312 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 3: you love him, you watch him on takee me like Oh, 313 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: he's so fascinating whatever, And with the six pick the 314 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 3: New York jail, You're like, no, that said Brian Dave 315 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: Bowl is really good offensive mine, He'll find a way 316 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: to get him the ball. I think he still can 317 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 3: function and look, maybe he's able to do one of 318 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: those DeAndre Hopkins type things where it doesn't matter how 319 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: bad the quarterback is, like he kind of finds a 320 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: way to continue to produce at a high level. He's 321 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 3: really good, and I would say the strength of his 322 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: game is the ability to make things happen after the cats, 323 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 3: and that might be the saving grace. So with the 324 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: bubble screens, the quick throws, the slants, maybe he's able 325 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: to kind of tally enough yard is to put up 326 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 3: the numbers that you want from a number one receiver. 327 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 5: Fucky, I'm wondering how much when you're looking at these rookies, 328 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 5: is it what you thought coming in? Because I didn't 329 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 5: love Keyon Coleman as a prospect coming in, but I 330 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 5: absolutely love his landing spot and I'm like all the 331 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 5: bill stuff behind me, I'm like, Josh Allen, this style 332 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 5: of wide receiver could could be dangerous. 333 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: So I guess too. 334 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 5: Full question like, how do you balance that landing spot 335 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 5: in what you thought of a player? And do you 336 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 5: think key On Coleman could be a good fit with 337 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 5: Josh Allen and the Bills? 338 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: The yellow Jackie got you, huh, the yellow buffer. The 339 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 3: buffer gots you the personality. So so here's here's the thing, 340 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: and here's what you want to do. Like like where 341 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 3: we are in the media world, Like as a scout, 342 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: you want to be objective and so you can't be 343 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: tied to your opinions per se because a lot of 344 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 3: the stuff you're doing is speculating without really knowing where 345 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: they're going. Well, now once you see where they go, 346 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 3: to me, it becomes a much easier evail because you 347 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: understand where he's going, who he's playing with, and what 348 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 3: the plan is, the proposed plan for the player. Well, yeah, 349 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 3: Kean Coleman to me, like, I mean, he ain't asleeper 350 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: because everyone knows but Keyan Coleman in Buffalo he has 351 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 3: a chance to be the number one receiver. If he 352 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: goes somewhere else, he doesn't get a chance to play 353 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: that role because now you hear the conversation about Josh 354 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 3: Allen basically hand picked him. Oh, I'm going all on 355 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: Kean Coleman because Josh Allen has invested interest in making 356 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: sure that his hand picked receiver plays. I'll say this, 357 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 3: what hurt Kean Covian in the draft is he didn't 358 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 3: run fast at the combine, but you still got to 359 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 3: look at the tape and watch what he did at 360 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 3: Florida State. This dude is bean topping everybody. He's catching 361 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 3: balls everywhere. He's super acrobatic. He's a red zone weapon 362 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 3: and the underrated value. When you're looking at wide receivers, 363 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 3: find guys that have return ability, because what return ability 364 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: does is it showcases the ability to run after the catch. 365 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 3: Kean Coleman, at his size was returning punts for Florida State. 366 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 3: That tells me, man, we can get this guy in space. 367 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 3: We can do some things. And I didn't make this 368 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 3: comparison before, but I'll make it now. He reminds me 369 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: of Keenan Allen because Keenan Allen was also another guy 370 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 3: that was a big guy that returned punts. I think 371 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 3: at cal a little bit, Kean Coleman may end up 372 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: having some of that stuff. He's not that route runner now, 373 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 3: but man if Josha Allen says, I want you where 374 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 3: do you think the ball is gonna hit. It's going 375 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: to edit in his direction because everyone wants to be correct. 376 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 4: So, now that we know landing spots outside of Marvin 377 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 4: Harrison Junior, which wide receiver do you think will have 378 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 4: like year one impact, Like who will have the number 379 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 4: one spot out of that rookie class? 380 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 3: The number one spot outside of Marvin Harrison Junior. We 381 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: already talked about Malik Okay. I will say this, if 382 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 3: you talk about biggest impact, I think Brian Thomas Junior 383 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 3: could have a significant impact. And this is why in 384 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: Jacksonville because everyone look last year I see Marks doing 385 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: on TV the hype train. The hype train was big 386 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 3: on Jacksonville last year, and so because they ran off 387 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 3: the tracks, everybody is off of them. I would say 388 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 3: this year they're better positioned to do what everyone thought 389 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 3: that they would do last year, just because the talent 390 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 3: on the outside. So the best two playmakers on the 391 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: jack Wars offense are Christian Kirk and Evan Ingram. The 392 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 3: ball goes to them, like the coaches have said, that's 393 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 3: where the ball is going. Well, now they bring over 394 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 3: Gabe Davis, who averaged over sixteen yards per catch, had 395 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: twenty seven touchdowns in Buffalo. Well, somebody on the other 396 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 3: side is also going to get one on one covered, 397 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 3: and that's BTJ And so he gets one on one 398 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 3: coverage as a vertical stretch player and he's super fast. 399 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 3: So for years they've had to play half court basketball 400 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 3: because they didn't have the vertical element. Now you have 401 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 3: two guys and you have to think early on, all 402 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: the attention will be on Kirk and Ingram and then 403 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 3: gave Davis because they've seen him in the league. That 404 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 3: creates plenty of opportunities for Thomas Junior to have big plays. 405 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 3: And so when we talk about impact, I think about 406 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 3: impact in terms of explosive plays catches over twenty yards. 407 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 3: To me, he's going to have an opportunity to be 408 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 3: well up in that category because he's gonna get a 409 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 3: lot of one on ones and I think they'll push 410 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: the ball down the field. 411 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: So you talk about that right in crowded wide receiver 412 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: room and that sort of thing. And you know, there 413 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: was all this chatter that the Niners were going to 414 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: make a trade at some point that you know they 415 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: couldn't keep both Debo and Brandon Ayuk. 416 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: For now, they're both still there. 417 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: I know they're working on an extension for Ayuk, but 418 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: they also go out and they draft Ricky Piersoll. 419 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 2: Is there space for all three of those guys? Look? 420 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if anybody can sort of scheme 421 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: it up, it might be Kyle Shanahan. But it feels 422 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: like it's gonna be hard for all three of those 423 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: guys to really coexist, you know, successfully in that offense. 424 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 3: I think it's a direct reaction to Super Bowl and 425 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 3: without knowing what Debo pulled in in the Super Bowl, 426 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan walked away from that game with a loss, 427 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 3: but he also walked away knowing that, Man, now that 428 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: we lost this game like this, everybody's gonna play us 429 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 3: the same way. Meaning everyone's gonna play man de Man 430 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 3: against the forty nine. Is because Man de Man took 431 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 3: away the layups that were going to Brock Purdy that 432 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 3: first quarter when they went up and down the field, 433 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 3: they were hitting the middle of the scene or whatever 434 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: can see. He quickly switched to say, hey, we got 435 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 3: to take away these And what happened is they found 436 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: that Deebo Samuy couldn't get open against man coverage. Brandon 437 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 3: a Yuk didn't get the production. He was getting open, 438 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 3: but he didn't get the production. Well. Kyle Shanahan wanted 439 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 3: another route runner to fill out the wide receiver cord. 440 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: That's Ricky Piersoll. So now when they play those teams 441 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 3: that attempt to play man demand, they're going to have 442 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: more options because remember it wasn't even Kansas City. If 443 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 3: you go back and look at Cleveland, Cleveland stopped the 444 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 3: Niners offense because they played man demand'll make like sixty 445 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 3: percent of their snaps. Shanahan is anticipating facing more man demand. 446 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 3: He wanted a route runner. Ricky Pearsol is a route runner. 447 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 3: That's why he wanted to take him early. So there's 448 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: opportunities for all of those guys. But it may be 449 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: matchup base more so than a just throw out the 450 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 3: lineup card. This is how we're gonna play. 451 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 5: And Bucky, we've asked you about a lot of wide 452 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 5: receivers here, but is there any fantasy sleepers that our 453 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 5: listeners maybe should write down for draft season? 454 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: Fantasy sleeper So that means running back anything that we 455 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 3: can go anywhere on the board receivers, but you could 456 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 3: take it anywhere. I was just make sure had the 457 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 3: proper context. I would say, just as an overall fantasy sleeper, 458 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: I would just keep an eye on Blake Corn with 459 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: the La Rams and the reason why we were keep 460 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 3: an eye on Blake when you look at look, man, 461 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 3: this dude put the ball in the paint. I think 462 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 3: fifty eight rushing touchdowns at Michigan. I watched, I'm watching 463 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 3: how the Rams are switching over their ofference from being 464 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 3: more of a zone scheme to a gap scheme. But 465 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 3: that's exactly what he played in at Michigan. So Sean 466 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 3: mcvayh was able to take someone and say, this guy 467 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 3: played in what we're going to do. He's a perfect 468 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 3: fit for us. And even though they have Karon Williams. Man, 469 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 3: you know how Sean McVay falls in and out of 470 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 3: love with running backs. He loveti early one moment camp Akers, Oh, 471 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 3: camp Akers, You're my guy. And I can't find camp 472 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: Akers anymore, you know. And so Williams is a toast 473 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 3: of the town in by week seven, it may be 474 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 3: Blake Korn's team. So just keep an eye on Blake 475 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: Krn being the guy. 476 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: Yes, this is the part that Lakwan is going to 477 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: clip later and he's going to make this a social post. Fact, 478 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna retweet it like five times. It's absolutely gonna happen. 479 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: We'll take more quick break. Come back, we'll talk to 480 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: about running backs. I got Bucky Brooks here a great 481 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: conversations taking around for more of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. 482 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,239 Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, let's talk some running backs here. So 483 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: we talked about the wide receivers. The thing you mentioned 484 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: is that maybe we got a little bit too hyped 485 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: on this wide receiver class. On the flip side, everybody 486 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: was really down on this group of running backs. I 487 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: Bucky have been of the opinion that people were down 488 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: on them mainly because there weren't one or two guys 489 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: at the top. 490 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 2: Right. 491 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: We didn't have a Bijon Robinson, for instance, in this class. 492 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: It wasn't like we had Sakwon Barkley or whatever in 493 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 1: this group. Have we underrated the of this running back 494 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: class or is it really just not great? 495 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not I would say there's not that star player. 496 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 3: So it's not so much that everyone was devaluing them. 497 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 3: I don't think anyone merited what Bijon was and I 498 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 3: think anyone can look at Jon and see Bjeon as 499 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 3: a rookie and just see, oh man, this talent that 500 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 3: he has is different. I would say that the players 501 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 3: that were in this class are more situational playmakers, guys 502 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 3: that need to play a specific role. They're not guys 503 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 3: that can handle the entire obligation that normally comes along 504 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: with being the workhorse. And so it's gonna be really 505 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 3: important that you find the right guys that fit into 506 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 3: the role that is going to really work well for them. 507 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: You know, I talked about Blake Korn like he's a 508 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: great fit. I think will Shipley's in a great place, 509 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 3: even though it's a little different with say Kwon Barkley 510 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 3: being there. Will Shipley's in a nice thing because he's 511 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey liked in terms of like how he plays 512 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 3: and then an offense that we use the running back 513 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 3: in a few different ways. He's gonna have a lot 514 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 3: of But I can say the same thing about Isaac 515 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 3: Gerendo for the San Francisco forty nine ths forty nine ers, 516 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 3: like he's gonna be a guy that is going to 517 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: have an opportunity to play in those things. So it's 518 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 3: really kind of shaking the bushes and looking at the 519 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: fits to find the running back that could surprise, even 520 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: though on the surface, coming into the league there wasn't 521 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 3: anyone that you were wild about. 522 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 4: So we talked about some of these running backs and 523 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 4: Trey Benson is a guy that I absolutely love, but 524 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 4: who was a guy that you just saw the landing 525 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 4: spot It's like, okay, yeah, he's going to be able 526 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 4: to produce and have a brave feature there. 527 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, no so and talking about it like Kormer is 528 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 3: obviously one. Shiffley is another one that you just kind 529 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 3: of talk about, like, man, that appears to be a 530 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: really good fit. Trey Benson in Arizona is interesting because 531 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: he has an opportunity to be the young guy in 532 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 3: the backfield. And there's something too that James Conners played 533 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 3: for a long time, like he's been the guy for 534 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 3: a minute. But yeah, yeah, young dynamic being able to 535 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 3: kind of have an opportunity to do it. Yeah, those 536 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 3: guys are fascinated. But I think, man, this one is 537 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 3: like it's really about digging deep because the problem with 538 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 3: this running back class is we had a free agent 539 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 3: class that none of us expected, right, We didn't expect 540 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 3: the free agents to get paid. We didn't expect Josh 541 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 3: Jacobs to end up in Green Bay. Like, we just 542 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 3: kind of thought they all would be sitting out the passion. 543 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 3: That's it. No more old running backs. But now you 544 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 3: have these guys doing that. I mean, shoot, Zeke Yelliot's 545 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: come back, come back, and he's acting like he's gonna 546 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 3: be the feature player. I was like waiting two years ago. 547 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 3: Two years ago, we were ready to get rid of him. 548 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: So I think some of these young guys are hamstrung 549 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 3: by their situations where it may take a while for 550 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 3: them to really pop. It might be a year where 551 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: we have to turn back the clock and lean on 552 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 3: a bunch of older guys early until those young guys 553 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 3: can kind of separate from the pack. 554 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: So I mean, real quick about that. Can That's not 555 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: making me feel better about Marshawn Lloyd. I wanted him 556 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: to go to a great place, Bucky, he goes to 557 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: Green Bay. I think he's a really talented guy, but 558 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: he's stuck behind Josh Jacobs. I mean, it feels like 559 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: this is just at least for the next two years, 560 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: he's probably just stuck. 561 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 3: Right, It seems like that, right, because like when we've 562 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 3: seen the way they played Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon, 563 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 3: there's not enough evidence to say that Matt Lafloyd knows 564 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 3: how to fully maximize two running backs that can play. 565 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 3: You know, like it was always hey, Jones, you do 566 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 3: all of the work and oh he he's dealing with 567 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 3: throw you in every now and then and kind of 568 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: get it done. With Josh Jacobs, you know he loves 569 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: the heavy workload. He did it and with the Raiders 570 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: he can catch it out the backfield. So you don't 571 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 3: have these clear lines where you can say, Okay, he's 572 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 3: gonna play this role and Marshton is gonna play that 573 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 3: other role. But you never the one thing we know 574 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 3: about running backs man sprained ankle bruise here there. It 575 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 3: gives guys an opportunity. It's just it's murkier than we've 576 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: seen at the position than in previous years. 577 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 5: And the one that everyone kind of thought would be 578 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 5: the RB one in this class, Jonathan Brooks obviously the 579 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 5: season ending injury in college. But Ian Rapaport after he 580 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 5: got drafted was like, no, they expect him to be 581 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 5: ready in July. So, Bucky, what are your expectations for 582 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 5: Jonathan Brooks in year one. 583 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 3: I think it's hard to really have high expectations one. Normally, 584 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 3: I know people come back from an ACL, but normally 585 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 3: it takes two years before you really settled in. And 586 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 3: so to think that he's gonna come off of the ACL, 587 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 3: jump right into the mix and be the guy. And also, 588 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 3: don't they have Miles They have Miles Sanders there, they 589 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 3: still have some other running backs there. I would think 590 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 3: that they would probably be fairly conservative in their approach. 591 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 3: If he plays man, maybe he does some stuff down 592 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 3: the stretch like the last half of the season, but 593 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 3: it's hard to count on that. 594 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: Uh. 595 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 3: I expect him to play. He's super talented, he has 596 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: a lot of ability. It's just a matter of that 597 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 3: he's gonna be healthy enough to kind of handle the 598 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: responsibility of being a guy that gets in the mix 599 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 3: and plays a lot. 600 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 4: So the fantasy streets are buzzing right now around Kamanie 601 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 4: the Dell going to the Chargers and they already have 602 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 4: all want two punch with JK. Dobbins and Gus Edwards. 603 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 4: So the fantasy streets are thinking or leaning on the 604 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 4: sign that he may have a larger role or should 605 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 4: we just be worried that you know, they already have 606 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 4: a larger mouse to feed there. 607 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 3: No, because I think with JK. Dobbins, you got to 608 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 3: treat him. If we're playing space, you got to treat JK. 609 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 3: Dobbins as possible. You can't count that book. You don't 610 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 3: know if he's going. Yeah, you can't count it. Like 611 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 3: if it works, it works. But so so now it's 612 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: a situation with Gus Edwards and but All and I 613 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 3: would say this watching him super productive at Troy, I 614 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 3: mean just like a go getter, like you see him 615 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 3: handle a heavy workload. He kind of has the right temperament. 616 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 3: And the one thing that we know about Jim Harbaugh, 617 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 3: he's gonna run the football. The other thing that would 618 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 3: know just by looking at Michigan, he's gonna do it 619 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 3: with multiple running backs. He did it up there even 620 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 3: though they had Blake Cormby, had another running back, Donovan 621 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 3: that could make it happen. So yeah, I would be 622 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 3: okay with that. I would keep an eye on him. 623 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: I would I think you stash him and you just 624 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 3: to wait and see how how it plays out. But 625 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 3: he's certainly gonna get an opportunity because one thing we know, 626 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 3: he is going to run the football. He said it. 627 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,479 Speaker 3: You can continue to believe him and not believe him, 628 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 3: but they are going to run the football. And I 629 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 3: will say this, the last time the Chargers, like going 630 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 3: way back, had a mentality at the top of the 631 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 3: team that was like Jim Harbar, was Marty Schottenheimer. Look 632 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 3: up LT Statstant look at the amount of touchdowns that 633 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 3: LT was putting up back then, and they were Look, 634 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 3: they were a running team and he had everybody. He 635 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 3: had a quarterback, he had Philip Rivers, he had Drew Rees, 636 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 3: and they still ran the football. So for me, I 637 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: am more intrigued by that because he is going to 638 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 3: try and establish the team's mentality and they're gonna run 639 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 3: the football, so all those guys in the backfield are 640 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 3: gonna be viable options. 641 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I go back to even at Stanford, he 642 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: had Andrew Luck and he ran the football. 643 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's that's what he does. Like he 644 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 3: had us thinking, Yeah, he had us thinking that Toby 645 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 3: Gerhard was like a real dude, like a high run dude. 646 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 3: So they're gonna run, They're gonna run the foo. So yeah, 647 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 3: but all being there is somewhat adventures. For sure, Roman's 648 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 3: offense running a lot. 649 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. 650 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you about tight ends because we all 651 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: love brock Bauers. He go to the Raiders. Does this 652 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: mean they gave up on Michael? I like Michael Mayer too, 653 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the dude had a great career Notre Dame. 654 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: Does this mean they've given up on Michael Mayer or 655 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: are they gonna actually try to run two tight ends 656 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: out there now? 657 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 3: No, I think they're gonna run two tight ends. I 658 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 3: think this was a situation where you hear this time 659 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 3: of year, best player available. He was the best player available. 660 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 3: I think some teams had him rad as a top 661 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 3: five player on the board. The Raiders get to him, 662 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 3: the quarterback's not there because there was an assumption that 663 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 3: if Michael Penix were there, he was gonna be their guy. 664 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 3: So Penix is off the board. So now you have 665 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 3: black bars staring you right there, and you're like, oh 666 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 3: my goodness, Like how great is this? I think what 667 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 3: they will have an opportunity to do is people call 668 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 3: twelve personnel, one back, two tight ends to our receivers. 669 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 3: And what that does is it balance out the way 670 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 3: the defense has to play. It changes the coverages that 671 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 3: you can see. So will not only kind of open 672 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 3: up the feel for like Michael Mayer, it may open 673 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 3: up the field for DeVante Adams because it's harder to 674 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 3: double team with two tight ends on the field. The 675 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 3: problem do we really believe that Garna Minshew's is gonna 676 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 3: be able to be the quarterback to do it? And 677 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 3: people get excited about Garner Minshew, but I remember there 678 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,959 Speaker 3: are a lot of games we had one hundred and 679 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 3: fifty or so yards for the in Andapolis Colts and 680 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 3: they went in spite of, not because of And so 681 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 3: that's the situation. Who is going to be the guy 682 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 3: that's throwing it? Because Bowers can be as talented as anybody, 683 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 3: But can the quarterback get them the ball? That's mean 684 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 3: all the question with the Raiders. 685 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 5: And when we were talking about tight ends at draft season, 686 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 5: it felt like Brock Bauers was the only one. But 687 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 5: there's some other guys like Ben sanat Jatavian Sanders, Eric All. 688 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 5: Is there any tight end now that we know landing 689 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 5: spot that you think could have a year one impact? 690 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 3: Just Tavian Centers just because he goes to Carolina. Uh, 691 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 3: Drew Canalys is gonna make sure that he does everything 692 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 3: in his power to fix the quarterback. So Bryce Young, 693 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 3: They've upgraded the pieces around them. Deontay Johnson coming over. 694 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 3: We still have Adam Thielen. You have weapons that can 695 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 3: can can move the needle. Well, someone has to be 696 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 3: able to control the middle of the field. That's where 697 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 3: Saunis comes in. He comes in and does it because 698 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 3: that's what he did at Texas. He dominated right down 699 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 3: the seams. It's an easy throw for the quarterback. He's 700 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 3: the guy that I were kind of peg as. Hey, 701 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 3: let's keep an eye on him because his production could 702 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 3: be through the roofs. 703 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 4: First year, I'm actually on the clock. I'm going to 704 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 4: be drafting him. 705 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: They look lucky he's drafting right now. 706 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: Man. We appreciate, We appreciate the time, appreciate the insights. 707 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: I know you and you and DJ still doing move 708 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: the sticks? What the what else you got going on? 709 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? No, move the sticks? So we got that that going. 710 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 3: We're on a little weak vacation. DJ's all tired from 711 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 3: the draft, so we're gonna take some time off and 712 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 3: then we'll get back together. And got to start digging 713 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 3: into it in the summer. So now, look, man, it's 714 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: all fun. This is a fun time of year because 715 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 3: the hard part is guessing where guys are gonna go 716 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 3: now that you see him. This is the fun part, 717 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 3: being able to kind of get excited when the schedule 718 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 3: comes out hopefully next week, get a chance to kind 719 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 3: of pig when guys are gonna make those major jumps. 720 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 3: So I'm enjoying this part of it. 721 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 2: I gotta ask about that too, in the schedule down. 722 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: I know there's there's kind of been this thing about 723 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: the you know, the post buy rookie bump. 724 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 2: Is that is that really a thing? 725 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: Do rookies sort of like take a jump in your 726 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 1: experience after having a bye. 727 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 3: Week sometimes because you got to remember, so like physically, 728 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 3: these guys have not had a break. I mean, look 729 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 3: since before the summer of their final seasons because the 730 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 3: way that the schedule goes, like they go from playing 731 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 3: to then the All Star Games to combine to mini 732 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 3: camps to playing, so that week bye is the first 733 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 3: time to they'll be able to take a deep breath 734 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 3: and kind of just chill out for a bit. So yeah, 735 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 3: like they kind of can get their sea legs back, 736 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 3: kind of figure out, oh what am I doing? Because 737 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 3: it's been a whirlwind. That first year playing in the 738 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 3: league is is kind of chaotic because you just don't 739 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 3: know what is going on. So yeah, that's your work. 740 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: M definitely something to keep in mind, surious we go 741 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: through the season. Bucky, appreciate you, man. Let's talk again soon. 742 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 3: Hey man, thanks sh having on guys. 743 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: All right, Bucky Brooks there and that'll do it for us. 744 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: By the way, we appreciate y'all hanging out with us. 745 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: We have to cheat sheet for you coming up tomorrow. 746 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: We appreciate everybody who's been jumping in on that as well, 747 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: So look for that live streaming on YouTube in the meantime. 748 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: That'll do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy 749 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: Football Podcast for the Kawan Jones, Michael if Flora, Marcus Grant, 750 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 1: stay happy, safe and healthy, do good and live well, 751 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: happy drafted everybody, Talk to you again real soon.